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Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
« Reply #585 on: January 25, 2014, 12:28 AM »
No longer mad at you Rob.   ;)

Buyer contacted me today to say the shipment arrived.  Postal system even apologized to the buyer saying the box had been there a while but got shuffled off to the side and forgotten about.  So it was a Mexican system screw up, though I can see that happening anywhere.  Doesn't do a lot to alleviate the feelings I have about shipping where tracking is expensive so I don't see me changing my stance on the shipping policy going forward.

But the buyer is sending me the money again. 

I was quite angry when it happened and in my response to him/eBay, my early draft showed that anger.  Thankfully I didn't send it, revised it to be disappointed but polite and asked that should it show up I would appreciate it if he would contact me and pay me and lo and behold, he did.  Honey good, vinegar bad. 
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« Reply #586 on: January 25, 2014, 02:17 AM »
Good move.  eBay isn't necessarily going to side with you, but they're very likely to side against you if you get all pissy in the email and response history.

Glad to hear it worked out and that the guy was honest about paying you back.  He could have easily gotten away with keeping the money.

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« Reply #587 on: February 14, 2014, 12:56 PM »
So, I have recently had pretty good luck contacting Ebay sellers who were unable to sell their items.  If I've seen something I want re-listed or noticed no bids by the auction end, I'll sometimes shoot over an email offering to buy direct.  This saves the seller time re-listing, avoids Ebay and Paypal Fees, and guarantees an immediate sale.  On my end, I typically get it for a little less and don't have the hassle of potentially being outbid at the last minute.  Win-win scenario in my mind.

Recently, I saw a fairly common vintage carded figure go unsold at $29.99 + $4.50 shipping.  So, I contacted the seller to see if we could work something out. His offer?  "Sure, I would be willing to sell it to you for $50 direct."  Ummmm...what?  How about I pay $15 more than what it didn't sell for initially?  WTF is wrong with people? 
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« Reply #588 on: February 14, 2014, 01:07 PM »
That's hilarious in a super obnoxious way! I thought you were going to say he sold it to you for $15.
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« Reply #589 on: February 14, 2014, 03:52 PM »
That's hilarious in a super obnoxious way! I thought you were going to say he sold it to you for $15.

Ha!  I would have been happy to buy it for $30...not sure I want it at all now. 
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« Reply #590 on: February 15, 2014, 11:49 AM »
The last few times I've tried to offer people slightly lower prices for things that don't sell, I've been ignored and then found the items resisted for the same price.  Seems to be a side-effect of there being no listing fees (mostly) at this point.

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« Reply #591 on: February 15, 2014, 03:41 PM »
I usually just ignore offers sent via messages, but if I'm in a good mood I'll respond to the person, politely decline, thank them for looking, etc. I tend to find offers to be annoying, mostly because if I wanted offers on my items I would add the "best offer" feature (also free now, BTW). I run sales and sometimes lower prices (then still have sales) on most of my items, but some things I am okay with sitting on for awhile to get the price I am looking for.

Jman, regarding your seller, it seems like he was being a dick. Responding to your inquiry/offer with a higher price than his listing seems straight up snarky and kinda rude.
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« Reply #592 on: February 15, 2014, 09:53 PM »
Thanks Greg.  My take on offers is that its ideally helping out both seller and buyer.  If you intend to sell an item for $100, you're going to have to pay eBay and paypal fees of at least $5-6.  And after being up a whole week, you have no bids, so chances of selling at that price are greatly reduced.  Then someone comes along promising to buy direct for $90.  The buyer clearly saves $10 vs. the initial price,  but the seller is only getting $4 less than he intended with no fees and no Ebay siding with seller complaints. I typically get buyers to see the light, but amazes me how many people don't get it.
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« Reply #593 on: February 15, 2014, 10:19 PM »
Thanks Greg.  My take on offers is that its ideally helping out both seller and buyer.  If you intend to sell an item for $100, you're going to have to pay eBay and paypal fees of at least $5-6.  And after being up a whole week, you have no bids, so chances of selling at that price are greatly reduced.  Then someone comes along promising to buy direct for $90.  The buyer clearly saves $10 vs. the initial price,  but the seller is only getting $4 less than he intended with no fees and no Ebay siding with seller complaints. I typically get buyers to see the light, but amazes me how many people don't get it.

Ah, I see where you're coming from. Honestly I skimmed your earlier post (:-[) so I missed that buying direct part. You're 100% right though, making the deal outside of eBay does save fees and should reduce the price. I actually don't think I have gotten any offers for making a deal outside eBay, just offers to lower my price on eBay.

Personally I don't think I would do any off-eBay deals, since I don't know if eBay checks messages and regulates stuff like that (I know they have an annoying disclaimer on all messages). I've been working on getting a small toy business right now, so I wouldn't want to screw things up by getting my eBay account banned or something. I play things overly cautious though, that's just who I am.

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« Reply #594 on: February 15, 2014, 11:12 PM »
Yes, they frown upon outside deals for obvious reasons ($) but I'm not sure how aggressive they are in pursuing violations, scanning emails and so forth. Nothing would surprise me though.

I'm pretty much the same as Greg, typically I am not interested in doing side-deals as I put I lot of time and thought into my pricing up front and don't have a lot of wiggle room with my margins. Most of the offers I seem to get are pretty far below whatever savings I would recoup in fees too. But I have done it on occasion  and am certainly not averse to people asking.
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Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
« Reply #595 on: February 16, 2014, 12:46 AM »
Actually you can get turned in by people you make offers to if you piss them off enough over it.  I've noticed the requests from them to turn people in for contacting you about selling off-site, so it's a reason I tend not to do it.

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« Reply #596 on: March 5, 2014, 10:45 AM »
Can we change the title of this thread to Everything eBay is a Scam?  I received an invoice from them for 9 auctions I held in January.  My amount due?  $82!!!  Are you kidding me?  Since when do they take 10% off both the final value and the shipping charge?  That means an auction ending for $85 + $15 shipping costs me $10 in Ebay fees plus $5 in paypal fees.  I would be better off marking the price down to $70(!) and selling local.  Incredible.  Great place to buy, ridiculous place to sell.
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« Reply #597 on: March 5, 2014, 11:27 AM »
Since when do they take 10% off both the final value and the shipping charge? 

Since March/April 2011.

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« Reply #598 on: March 5, 2014, 12:28 PM »
Yeah, its pretty sad when you have to mark up shipping just to break even. 

Don't forget your PayPal fees as well.

I'm with you Justin.  If I can strike a deal off-line with people I do it every time, especially if I'm the seller.  It saves you a TON in fees.

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« Reply #599 on: March 5, 2014, 09:54 PM »
Thing with that is when I see marke up shipping I don't buy.  Even a pretty decent deal I walk away.  I'm sure I'm not alone there.   :-\
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