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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #15 on: March 7, 2004, 01:43 AM »
I know they are the same guy but I always find myself trying to find subtle differences in the 2 chracters.  Such as consintrating on the lower half of the face. Also I try to compare the voices. Also if you think about it. How can he just split from his office(being such an important leader) and go off to a hide out all by himself.  It's like the president of the US suddenly leaving washington and going all the way to CA by himself just to watch Linkin Park in concert with out anyone knowing. Yes, I know its a weirdass analogy but it works  ;) I also heard that palpy is indeed something of a changeling. He is some how able to keep himself looking normal until E3 where he lets it all go loose and he has a scary face and yellow eyes. I dont care, just seein him bust out a saber will be cool enough.

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #16 on: March 7, 2004, 04:56 AM »
if sidious has taken palpatiens identity, why would he keep that identity after he has gained control over the galaxy???

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #17 on: March 7, 2004, 12:09 PM »
if sidious has taken palpatiens identity, why would he keep that identity after he has gained control over the galaxy???

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #18 on: March 7, 2004, 04:55 PM »
 very good indeed ! the thing about Palpatine's eyes and skin, etc is that the darkside consumes you. rotting the flesh as well as contaminating the soul. pure evil.
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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #19 on: March 7, 2004, 10:52 PM »
Because the rest of the Galaxy probably wouldn't take to kindly to being duped by an evil stand-in...hence the Rebellion, Bail, Mon Mothma, Padme etc probably find out that the "lie" that Dooku told Obi-Wan is true

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #20 on: March 8, 2004, 01:43 PM »
  i'll agree w/ that. Palpatine/ Sidious are one smart , sneeky son of guns ! anyway to gain control.
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Re: Palpatine and Sidious
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2004, 04:48 PM »
My idea:

Palpatine was a real guy from Naboo, pretty powerful Senator etc.  Right before TPM the real Sith Lord (Syfo-Dyas) kills the real Palpatine, pretends to off himself and assumes Palpatine's place in the Senate.  He's either so powerful in the dark side or a shape shifter.  Before this he orders the Clones, Erases Kamino and gets himself elected Chancellor...voila

I was thinking about Sifo Dyas today for some reason...anyone have a guess better than mine?
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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2004, 07:29 PM »
My guess:

Sidious is Palpatine, Syfo Dyas was Dooku. C'mon it's Lucas, don't expect it to be something really elaborate!  :P

Other there theory: Sidious has trained by Darth Bane and has lived for 1000s of years. Finally, he begins to gain power and control and assumes the name of Palpatine after killing the real one. Sidious is able to shed his skin so to speak and can travel from body to body. Sidious is just a spirit that can assume different hosts (Dark Empire).
The Palpatine host is eventually killed. Sidious lives on, cue Episodes VII-IX.
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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #23 on: November 4, 2004, 12:11 AM »
So...what's with the teeth?



They sort of match what the Emperor looks like in ROTJ, but they seem far different than what Palpatine would look like in the PT...conjectures?

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #24 on: November 4, 2004, 12:29 AM »
I like the look here, certainly it's not consistent with ROTJ, but it's not consistent with TPM or AOTC Sidious either. There has to be something revealed in ROTS about his "veiling" that also explains this look, me thinks.

Maybe he's somehow concealed his appearance (or non-hideousness) as Senator/Chancelor Palpatine in a way that maybe he still does to some extent in the OT.

Then again maybe it's just artistic license to make him freakin' scary for this scene. It sure looks psychotic. Love it.

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #25 on: November 4, 2004, 09:49 AM »
Hmm, perhaps my original thought that Sidious is using the Dark Side to alter his appearance OR is a shape shifter is right.

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #26 on: November 4, 2004, 10:06 AM »
Well, we never see Palps with his mouth open like that in ROTJ, so its possible that's what Ian McDiarmid looks like with his mouth open wide and fake rotten teeth in. He did have the creepy teeth in ROTJ, remember. They always freaked me out as a kid.
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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #27 on: November 4, 2004, 10:15 AM »
Right, the teeth match ROTS to ROTJ, I guess I'm not sure if we have seen him mouth Wide Open about take a bite out of a Tauntaun Burger or not

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #28 on: November 4, 2004, 10:25 AM »
Shape Shifter or uses dark side to conceal his true appearance.  Is it possible that Palpatine is a clone of Sidous?

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Re: Palpatine and Sidious and Sifo Dyas
« Reply #29 on: November 4, 2004, 10:31 AM »
That is a pretty common idea Jim and I guess its plausible.  I'm not sure how that will work in the reveal though...I've read some spoilerish rumors that point my way too but nothing concrete