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Participants needed for quick experiment (results are in!)
« on: November 23, 2004, 05:01 PM »
No, I'm not looking for actors.

This is a real experiment.  Below are two pictures of pornstar Jenna Jameson.  In the uncropped version of one photo, she is fully clothed and in the other she is fully naked.  I'm conducting this very scientific experiment ::) to determine whether her expression reveals which photo is clothed Jenna and which one is naked Jenna.  In order to participate in the experiment, please follow these guidelines:

1.  Send me your guess in a PM.  I don't want people's guesses influenced by the people who guess before them, so please don't post your answer in this thread. 

2.  For the sake of consistency, tell me whether you think she is naked in the photo on the left or the photo on the right. 

3.  If you don't know, please guess.  Don't PM me "I don't know," "naked in both," or "clothed in both."  I promise it is not a trick question and will post a censored version of both pictures after I've obtained sufficient results.

4.  If you look on the Internet, you can probably find the full photos pretty easily.  Please be honest about it and don't send me a guess if you have seen the photos.

5.  Please don't answer in this thread (see Rule 1).



Now, onto the pictures:


Thanks everyone and I will post the results experiemnt along with the whole photos (edited for suitable public consumption) in the next day or so.

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« Last Edit: November 24, 2004, 05:15 PM by smileyfaceguy »

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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2004, 05:04 PM »
This should be a sticky.  This is important ****.

On that note, PM sent
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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2004, 05:43 PM »
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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2004, 06:51 PM »
So as a bonus are ya gonna send the nekid pic, er I mean both pics ;D

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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2004, 12:07 AM »
In the I Met Jesse James thread that Ed started I mentioned I saw an HBO special on porn people getting their pictures taken.  These are the pictures that the special was about.  I was enthralled by all of the pics

I'm so excited to see the results, I'm not sure I can endure the time, its going to be touch and go, hopefully I can hold out :-[

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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2004, 12:40 AM »
I'm so excited to see the results, I'm not sure I can endure the time, its going to be touch and go, hopefully I can hold out :-[

hey hey hey, we don't need to hear about any touching and going mister!  ;D

this is an interesting experiment for sure, though I am curious to know what led to it.
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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2004, 02:40 AM »
Funny, but I just saw a special on Jenna on cable sometime last week.  Therefore, I know I've got a lock on which one she's nekkid in.  PM coming at you Mr. Smiley!

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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2004, 02:47 AM »
11 answers so far, so thanks to everyone who has responded.  Would like to get a bit more, so if you haven't responded, please take the time.  :)  Tomorrow sometime I'll end the experiment, reveal the pictures and explain the rationale behind it.  Thanks!!

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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (involving pornography!)
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2004, 10:19 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2004, 05:12 PM »
Thanks to everyone who responded.  With 17 responses in, I’m going to call the experiment over.  Results are below, but first, here’s the story that led up to this.

Famous portrait photographer Timothy Greenfield-Sanders was featured in an art gallery I visited over the weekend.  The exhibit was in support of his new coffee table book entitled XXX: 30 Porn-Star Portraits.  The book contains two portraits each of 30 adult film stars, one with the clothes on, and one in an identical pose with the clothes off.  Each pair of photographs was huge and available for purchase at a price of $35,000 each.

Now, I like to look at naked people as much as the next guy, but I have to admit the idea didn’t seem terribly interesting to me at first.  It struck me as a bit pedestrian, and kind of an “I’m out of good ideas” project.  After one walk through the gallery, however, my opinion really changed.  I’m no kind of art expert and never had much use for nude photography (except for use as “material” ;)), but looking at these pictures, I did find myself contemplating the human form in a way I hadn’t before.  Comparing two pictures of the same person in the same pose, my companions and I agreed that you get past the nudity pretty quickly and end up focusing on things like facial expressions, posture and body language – looking at them in a way you normally don’t.

What was most interesting to me is that you would expect porn-stars to be so comfortable naked in front of a camera that you wouldn’t pick up signs of nervousness or discomfort in the nude photo compared to the clothed photo.  But I thought that when you looked at the body language and facial expressions of the models, they actually appeared noticeably less comfortable in the nude photos than in the clothed photos.  This was especially true of the photos of Jenna Jameson, which as luck would have it is the only one I could find both the clothed and nude versions of online:




Here’s where some disagreement comes in.  I think her arm placement in the nude photo expresses a sense of uneasiness that is not present in the clothed photo.  The clothed photo looks more natural and at ease, where in the nude photo she’s practically hugging herself in a way like she somehow feels more vulnerable and exposed (duh) and is trying to comfort herself.  My friends disagreed and felt that she was probably told to pose this way so that her breasts would not be affected by the placement of her arms as you can see they are in the clothed photo.  Although they saw my point, they didn’t get a sense of discomfort in the nude photo compared to the clothed photo. 

So then I argued that her face also gave the sense that she was more comfortable in the clothed photo than the nude photo.  It was something I couldn’t articulate well, but it related to her chin being lower or her head being slightly turned…something about it.  No one agreed with me (neither my friends nor the people who responded to this thread).  This led to a lengthy discussion about whether, looking at her face only, she looked more or less “comfortable” in one picture or the other, and could someone looking at her face only pick up on that and correctly identify in which picture she was nude? 

Thus, the experiment.  For those of you who did not stop reading after seeing the picture, here are the results:

13 of the 17 responses (over 75%!) correctly guessed that the picture on the right was the nude photo.  Four of these people gave reasons for their guess.  Of these, three said they thought Jenna looked more comfortable or confident in the picture on the right, and since she’s a porn-star it made sense she would feel “in her element” without clothes.  Basically the opposite of what I had been arguing.  The fourth person claimed to know for sure the picture on the right was the nude one because of her hair.  I didn’t really get that, but he was obviously correct.  Of the four people who guessed incorrectly, none gave reasons for their answers.

So I don’t know that this proves anything one way or the other (other than you guys know a lot about porn), but I do find it interesting that the results seem to indicate a level of correctness better than pure guessing.  I don’t know if 75% is statistically significant or if 17 is a valid sample size, but from a scientific perspective, there are obviously bigger flaws with this methodology.  But as an informal survey, it was fun (I really wish I could get more of the photos to do a few more rounds).  Thanks to everyone who took the time.

Happy Turkey Day,

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Re: Participants needed for quick experiment (results are in!)
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2004, 05:24 PM »
I saw this thread to late to participated, but I honestly guessed before I scrolled down so I could feel like I was part of the experiement.

I guessed the one on the right was the naked one because it seems in the one on the left she has a slightly different smile and look to her eyes. The one on the right seemed a more blank stare to me......which indicated she was more uncomfortable.

I only spent about 10-30 seconds looking at both pictures before I came up with that, but after I saw the "after" pictures, I went back up and looked again.

I have to say, this is the most time I've ever spent concentrating on a (clothed) porn star's looks....but I believe that you really can tell.

Do you have links to the other photos? This is actually kind of interesting.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2004, 05:49 PM »
I guessed the one on the right was the naked one because it seems in the one on the left she has a slightly different smile and look to her eyes. The one on the right seemed a more blank stare to me......which indicated she was more uncomfortable.

I have to say, this is the most time I've ever spent concentrating on a (clothed) porn star's looks....but I believe that you really can tell.

The smile is what made me realize the pic on the right was the nude photo. I surmised that it indicated her confidence in her nude body and knowledge that she was being looked at. Jenna Jameson is a highly successful pornstar with her own company and any discomfort she would have with posing for nude photos should surely have been washed away years ago.

As for your other comment, I grow weary sometimes of seeing tons of pics of naked women. Only so much of the same nude poses can be tolerated, I find myself interested more in how they look clothed as I tend to think it gives a better perception of what is sexy or not. Then again with them being clothed, I can imagine what they look like nude and that's something as males we cling to.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2004, 05:56 PM »
Please post the uncensored version just so I can make sure that she isn't too cold either. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2004, 06:02 PM »
The smile is what made me realize the pic on the right was the nude photo. I surmised that it indicated her confidence in her nude body and knowledge that she was being looked at.

Exactly my reasoning as well, Jason.

So, what do the smarter 75+% of us win?   :)

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2004, 06:16 PM »
The smile is what made me realize the pic on the right was the nude photo. I surmised that it indicated her confidence in her nude body and knowledge that she was being looked at.

Exactly my reasoning as well, Jason.

So, what do the smarter 75+% of us win?   :)

perhaps a nite with our favorite adult film star, I call dibs on Asia Carrera!  ;D
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