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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2005, 12:29 AM »
So TOS one and TMP one were the same?  Was TMP one the 1701-A or was it just 1701?  I wasn't into TOS enough to remember (and TMP doesn't tickle my pickle much either...  never liked it much).
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2005, 12:46 AM »
The TV show was Enterprise 1701 the TMP Enterprise was also 1701 but there were cosmetic changes (new bridge and engines). 1701-A was introduced at the end The Voyage Home (ST:IV) after Kirk destroyed 1701 at the end of Search for Spock. (ST: III)
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2005, 01:18 AM »
OK so the ship from TOS which saw actual refits was offed in in Search For Spock...  Then the A came in, but didn't have a sequence showing it get destroyed?  And then the B's the one they commissioned at the opening of Generations in the prologue.  The C's only seen in TNG's one episode, and then of course the D throughout, and then the E in First Contact...  Dunno what the tri-nacelled one's designation was in the final episode of TNG though, but that's another.

I'm really fascinated by this. :)  Sorry for the off-topic Star Trek nerdiness Jay and I just had.
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2005, 01:35 AM »
The Tri Nacelle one was 1701-D was from an alternate timeline.
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2005, 02:04 AM »
No, that's the war refit one right?  I'm talking about Adm. Riker's Enterprise from "All Good Things..."
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2005, 03:03 PM »
Adm. Riker's ship in All Good Things was the Enterprise-D, simply with a third nacelle added. It's from an alternate future (for one thing, we later learned in Generations that the real D was destroyed before that).

"War-refit one" -- are you talking about the episode with the C where they were at war with the Klingons? That only had the two nacelles I believe.

Apparently the A was scheduled to be decommissioned shortly after The Undiscovered Country.
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2005, 05:47 PM »
The entire structure of the Enterprise in AGT was different, wasn't it?  I thought I'd seen it listed as a different Enterprise as well somewhere ( a model kit I thought, but I can't recall).

The one with the C didn't change on the outside other than damage, and the interior was refitted for combat situations.

The one I'm referring to was a 3-Nacel Enterprise I'm sure...  I don't recall where though.  I easily lose track of episode names, etc.
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2005, 06:00 PM »




And an unofficial page

I guess there's some sort of cannon under the saucer, and some turret thingies next to the bridge.

Modifications aside, it's still very much the Enterprise-D and not a new ship (according to the Star Trek Encyclopedia book).
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2005, 10:52 PM »
Well now that's interesting.  Nice pics...

Looks to me like only the saucer section's completely original though.  The neck looks a lot bigger than others...  I see the D in there though I guess.  And that timeline was altered or whatever since it's destroyed in Generations, so you're right that's not even an in-universe Enterprise I guess.
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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2005, 11:07 PM »
BTW, I just remembered, Captain Beverly Picard's ship in the alternate future in AGT was the USS Pasteur:



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Re: The Tantive IV is... NOT the Tantive IV?
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2005, 11:18 PM »
I loved that ship of hers. 

The Enterprise though, in AGT, I remember it ripping right through the hull of a Klingon Warbird like it was a hot knife through butter.  Sweeeeeet.

ST:TNG and DS9 (at their respective ends) had probably the best Space Battles short of Star Wars.
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