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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2005, 02:15 PM »
Something to think about ... as you will recall, Hasbro redid a number of Jabba's Palace figures in late Saga (Luke, Holo Luke, Lando Skiff, etc.) and those four that mosnab listed are ones that have yet to be redone. I'm fairly optimistic these could be a continuation of the late Saga JP series.

And as I recall, Bib Fortuna wasn't the hottest selling OTC figure in my neck of the woods.

Oddly enough, I only ever saw OTC Bib once. Then again, distribution on the entire OTC was pretty sparse in my neck of the woods. It's always weird to see how pegwarmers in some regions are HTF in others, and vice versa.

I'm wondering if the hologram pack-ins are going to be anything but little holo versions of various characters from the saga, whether they appeared in holographic form or not.  I can see them doing them randomly, with little attention to who the figure or who the hologram is.  That said, here's what would make sense (well, here's what I would like to see):.......

I agree. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind some "extra" holo figures as long as they are characters that could be reasonably expected to show up as holos somewhere. For example, I don't think we ever saw a mini holo Grievous in the film, but I'm sure he appeared holographically at some point. I suppose that could be considered EU to some, but it wouldn't bug me.

The problem arises when they start doing holo Wickets or something stupid like that. ::)
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2005, 04:12 PM »
"The problem arises when they start doing holo Wickets or something stupid like that."

ACK! No, now that you'd said it...
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2005, 02:06 PM »
After the repack/repaint-o-rama that came through from Preview night, I really hope that Hasbro has a few surprises to drop throughout this weekened...maybe during their presentation tomorrow.  Although I know it is still a "movie" year, and there are a lot of prequel figures people still want...I guess the fan in me is hoping they get back to making some OT characters again.  PT is ok too, specifically ROTS Clones and some Padmes (preferrably Obi-Wan/Padme/Jedi Master/3PO evolution sets), but otherwise I'd like to see some more OT stuff make a comeback now :).

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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2005, 08:41 PM »
I hope that this line has some new characters but have too say I like the packaging and the sandtrooper looks great.

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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2005, 08:51 PM »
Does anyone else worry that the bubble won't fit a conventional star case?  It looks too wide at the midpoint, a cross between the OTC card with the ROTS bubble.
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2005, 02:49 AM »
Actually, it looks like the Star Case they're packing the holo-Leia in would fit the new card design well.
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2005, 06:26 PM »
From Rebelscum:

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Each wave of action figures will be focused on a classic battle, and include the iconic characters. Look for 56 figures, split into 8 waves, and as an added bonus, each figure will inlcude a bonus holographic mini figure. The waves are as follows:

Battle of Carkoon from Episode VI will include 6 figures
Battle of Hoth from Episode V will include 8 figures
Battle of Coruscant from Episode III will include 6 figures
Battle of Geonosis from Episode II will include 7 figures
Battle of Tatooine from Episode IV will include 7 figures
Battle of Endor from Episode VI will include 8 figures
Battle of Naboo from Episode I will include 8 figures
Battle of Death Star from Episode IV will include 6 figures

Intriguing so far. If it were me I'd do them in episode order though.
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2005, 06:44 PM »
I guess I'll be the first to offer speculation over what I would like to see (based on the theory that it will be half repacks and half new figures; this is all just my opinion):

BATTLE OF HOTH (8 figures):

-Snowspeeder Luke Skywalker
-Major Bren Derlin
-SA Hoth Rebel Soldier
-SA Snowtrooper
-Saga Hoth Attack Luke Skywalker (2004)
-R2-D2 with Sensorscope (modified VOTC, 2004)
-Bespin Capture Han Solo (POTJ, 2000)
-K-3P0 Echo Base Protocol Droid (POTJ, 2001)

BATTLE OF CORUSCANT (6 figures):

-SA General Grievous (cloth cloak)
-Pilot Anakin Skywalker
-Coruscant Fireman
-Security Battle Droid (POTJ, 2000)
-Clone Trooper (ROTS #41 with gray shoulder pads)
-Count Dooku (ROTS #13)

BATTLE OF GEONOSIS (7 figures):

-SA Mace Windu
-SA Jango Fett
-SA Padme Amidala
-Poggle the Lesser (Saga Geonosis War Room, 2003)
-SA Clone Trooper (Clone Wars, 2003)
-Destroyer Droid (Episode I, 1999, with post-2002 head)
-Yoda (Saga, 2002)

BATTLE OF TATOOINE (7 figures):

-Owen Lars
-Beru Lars
-Tonnika Sister
-SA Cantina Band Member
-Sandtrooper (POTJ, already pictured)
-C-3P0 (POTF2 Flashback)
-Han Solo (CommTech 1999, just because it's a law)

BATTLE OF ENDOR (8 figures):

-SA Endor Poncho Princess Leia
-SA Endor Poncho Luke Skywalker
-SA Endor Trenchcoat Han Solo
-SA Scout Trooper
(although I wouldn't complain about new Ewoks)
-AT-ST Driver (AT-ST Han with new head and arm)
-Endor Rebel Soldier (Saga 2002, with new head)
-Imperial Officer (POTJ 2001/Saga 2002)
-Ewoks in some form

BATTLE OF NABOO (8 figures):

-SA Qui-Gon Jinn
-SA Obi-Wan Kenobi
-SA Battle Droid
-Queen Amidala (Episode I Battle figure)
-Sio Bibble (Episode I Battle figure)
-Darth Maul (probably a recard of MOTDS version again)
-OOM-9 (Trophy Edition that was never released)
-Holographic Darth Sidious (Episode I figure)

BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):

-SA Han Solo in Stormtrooper Disguise
-SA Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper Disguise
-SA Obi-Wan Kenobi
-SA Death Star Trooper
-Princess Leia Organa (Early Bird version)
-TIE Fighter Pilot (Saga 2004)
-Stormtrooper (VOTC, 2004)
-Grand Moff Tarkin (ROTS version with repainted head)

« Last Edit: July 17, 2005, 06:54 PM by DoctorPadawan »

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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2005, 07:13 PM »
Great list, Doc!

Good idea on the 2003 SA clone for Geonosis. There will be a lot of us cranky collectors if this doesn't happen.

I also particularly agree on K-3PO and the 2000 security battle droid for Hoth and Coruscant respectively.

And good call on the Naboo Holo Sid. I like your thinking. ;)

For Tatooine I would like to see a SA Tusken Raider most of all. Your others are good ideas, though personally I would lose the Tonnika sister to get a Tusken (since Cantina Han is logically a given).

The first thing that came to my mind for the Death Star was the POTJ/Saga Imperial officer -- possibly cut the TIE Pilot and put another Ewok in the Endor slot.

Heck, going on the assumption there will be vehicles and Deluxe/Ultra figures with each wave, how about a repack of the Saga Ewok on glider, a repacked AT-ST, and a new 4-pack Ewoks troop builder in the Deluxe line?
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2005, 08:19 PM »
Yep, that was a good list DP.  Here's what I *think* we might get.

BATTLE OF HOTH (8 figures):

-Snowspeeder Luke Skywalker (new)
-Major Bren Derlin (new)
-Hoth Rebel Soldier (new)
-AT-AT Driver (new)
-Toryn Farr (new)
-C3PO (ROTS repack)
-Snowtrooper (SAGA repack)
-Darth Vader (some sort of repack)

BATTLE OF CORUSCANT (6 figures):

-SA General Grievous (new)
-Pilot Anakin Skywalker (new)
-Coruscant Fireman (new)
-R2D2 (new w/ "hovering" base and flaming Super Battle Droid)
-Clone Trooper Gunner (repack - from Star Destroyer cannons w/ a cheap "cannon")
-Count Dooku (ROTS repack)

BATTLE OF GEONOSIS (7 figures):

-SA Mace Windu (new)
-SA Jango Fett (new)
-SA Padme Amidala (new)
-Battle Droid (ROTS repack, painted red)
-SA Clone Trooper (Clone Wars repack)
-Kit Fisto (ROTS repack)
-Yoda (ROTS repack)

BATTLE OF TATOOINE (7 figures):

-Garindan (new)
-Tonnika Sister (new)
-Ponda Baba (new)
-SA Tusken Raider (new)
-Sandtrooper (POTJ repack)
-Obi Wan Kenobi (POTJ repack)
-R2D2 (Commtech repack)

BATTLE OF ENDOR (8 figures):

-SA Endor Poncho Princess Leia (new)
-SA Endor Poncho Luke Skywalker (new)
-Endor Rebel Trooper (new)
-SA Scout Trooper (new)
-Nien Numb (new)
-Teebo (Saga repack)
-Death Star Trooper (POTF2 repack)
-General Lando Calrissian (OTC repack)

BATTLE OF NABOO (8 figures):

-SA Qui-Gon Jinn (new)
-SA Obi-Wan Kenobi (new)
-SA Jar Jar Binks (new)
-Naboo Security Guard (new)
-Battle Droid (ROTS repack)
-Queen Amidala (Episode I Battle repack)
-Gungan Warrior (POTJ repack)
-Darth Maul (MOTDS repack)

BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):

-SA Han Solo in Stormtrooper Disguise (new)
-SA Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper Disguise (new)
-Diagona (new)
-Chewbacca (new)
-Princess Leia Organa (new)
-TIE Fighter Pilot (Saga repack)
-X-Wing Pilot (Dutch Vander repack w/ new head - maybe Biggs)
-Darth Vader (MOTDS repack)

 :P
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2005, 10:08 PM »
Just a question.  Hasbro did not say anything about revisiting VOTC at Comic Con right?  It's just the OTC but now called Saga Collection correct? 

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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2005, 10:24 PM »
Can somebody create threads for the Coruscant, Tatooine, and Naboo waves? I've already made two and I don't want to seem like I'm hogging the forum or anything. :)
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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2005, 12:47 AM »
Great lists, Chewie and DocP. Now I'll but in with my predictions, which are mostly the same as everyone elses.  :P

BATTLE OF HOTH (8 figures):

-Luke Skywalker; Snowspeeder pilot suit. Removeable helmet and articulation similar to Gold Leader. Includes blaster, lightsaber, and ascension cable.
-Hoth Rebel Soldier; SA, maybe with two head variants. Includes blaster and heavy rifle.
-AT-AT Driver; Similar articulation and sculpt to Saga/OTC TIE Pilot. Includes blaster.
-Snowtrooper; New SA sculpt, with blaster.
-Leia in Hoth costume; resculpt, decent articulation. Includes blaster and tools.
-Bespin Han; POTJ Rerelease.
-Major Bren Derlin; decent articulation with blaster.
-General Veers; new sculpt with much articulation and removeable helmet, and possibly armor. Includes blaster.

BATTLE OF CORUSCANT (6 figures):

-General Grievous; SA, softgoods cape, blaster, and 4 lightsabers. Features interchangeable arms, one set closed and one set open for 4 arm attack.
-Anakin Skywalker; SA or near SA with removeable pilot helmet. Includes lightsaber.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi; see Anakin.
-Magnaguard; SA with softgoods cape. Includes harder plastic staff with removeable purple energy bindings.
-Battle Droid; POTJ Security rerelease.
-Count Dooku; ROTS rerelease.

BATTLE OF GEONOSIS (7 figures):

-Mace Windu; SA with softgoods cloak and lightsaber. Neutral expression.
-Jango Fett; SA, basically a resculpt of VOTC Boba. Includes blasters and both jetpacks. Also has either removeable helmet or switchable balljoint heads.
-Padme Amidala; SA Droid Factory resulpt with softgoods cloak and Naboo and Battle Droid blasters.
-Battle Droid; Red painted ROTS version with blaster.
-Clone Trooper; CW Rerelease with blaster and rifle.
-Clone Pilot; new head on SA Clone body with blaster and rifle.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi; SA or near SA with chains and lightsaber.

BATTLE OF TATOOINE (7 figures):

-Sandtrooper; POTJ Repack.
-Darth Vader; MOTDS Repack.
-Princess Leia; Commtech Repack.
-Captain Antilles; Saga Repack.
-Imperial Officer; POTJ Repack.
-Rebel Fleet Trooper; SA with blaster and removeable helmet. Head variants.
-Stormtrooper; Commtech repack.

BATTLE OF ENDOR (8 figures):

-Princess Leia; SA with softgoods poncho and removeable helmet. Includes blaster.
-Luke Skywalker; SA with poncho and removeable helmet. Includes lightsaber.
-Endor Rebel Trooper; SA with possible head variant, includes blaster and rifle.
-Scout Trooper; SA with pistol.
-Ewoks 3 pack; Includes Wicket, Teebo, and Chief Chirpa with staffs.
-C-3PO; The long awaited SA version with articulated knees. Includes "throne".
-Royal Guard; ROTS Repack with blaster and staff.
-General Lando Calrissian (OTC repack)

BATTLE OF NABOO (8 figures):

-Qui-Gon Jinn; SA with softgoods cloak and lightsaber.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi; SA with softgoods cloak and lightsaber.
-Jar Jar Binks; SA with boomer balls.
-Naboo Security Guard; SA with blaster and ascension gun.
-Battle Droid; ROTS repack.
-Queen Amidala; new near SA version with pistol and ascension gun.
-Gungan Warrior; SA with boomer balls.
-Darth Maul; MOTDS repack.

BATTLE OF DEATH STAR (8 figures):

-Stormtrooper Han; VOTC body with removeable helmet and blaster.
-Stormtrooper Luke; See above.
-Chewbacca; Early Bird repack.
-Stormtrooper; Commtech repack.
-TIE Pilot; Saga repack.
-Darth Vader; MOTDS repack.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi; SA with softgoods cloak and lightsaber.
-X-Wing Pilot; Gold Leader body with two or three head/helmet variants.

I sure think these would sell as well as satisfy everyone...

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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2005, 10:30 AM »
One thing I found interesting in RS's coverage of the Hasbro Q and A is the following question and comment:

"Will we see all the characters in the Vintage line recreated in the new format? Yes, eventually. Hasbro would like to remake them all, but there are many years to go, so there's time. They'll get to them."

I personally think that just about every figure from the POTF2 line could be improved upon considerably with the new sculpting/painting/articulation, so I wouldn't really mind seeing more "new/ultimate" versions of the vintage lineup.  However, they would have to be mixed in with all-new figures of course, and I know many people generally dislike resculpts.  I'm not sure if this means that all the figures from the vintage line will be re-made eventually, or if they mean all of the figures from the vintage line will be made in the "new style" from Saga 2004 and beyond.  Might just be the vintage line, but it would be nice to see all those get made first and foremost.  Like I said, I know many really don't like the resculpts, but I just think so many figures could be improved on even more after seeing the work Hasbro has done on the 2004 Saga, "new" OTC, VOTC, much of ROTS, and the Evolution lines.  There's some good stuff from the POTJ days as well, and almost any resculpt that we have seen has been quite an improvement.

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Re: VOTC and OTC Returns in 2006!
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2005, 12:11 PM »
Resculpts don't bother me as long as it is a significant improvement from the previous version and/or the original figure was either bad to begin with or falls short of today's level of quality.  The sad thing is that 90% of the POTF2 figures fall into this area.

I've been keeping a close eye on the figures from the POTF2 era that probably need resculpting and I've noticed something interesting.  With the release of the "Pit of Carkoon" wave, all the figures released on orange POTF2 cards (including Boussh Leia but excluding the SOTE crap) have been redone in the last three or four years and replaced with superior versions.  Also, several figures per year from the green card POTF2 have been redone and replaced with superior versions.

From my calculations, these are the figures from the POTF2 days that were released on basic cards that have not been resculpted to meet today's standards:

01.  Death Star Gunner
02.  R5-D4
03.  Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper Disguise
04.  Jawa
05.  Momaw Nadon/Hammerhead
06.  Tusken Raider
07.  2-1B Medical Droid
08.  AT-ST Driver
09.  Hoth Rebel Soldier
10.  Han Solo in Endor Gear
11.  ASP-7 Droid
12.  Admiral Ackbar
13.  4-LOM
14.  Garindan
15.  Weequay Skiff Guard
16.  Ponda Baba
17.  Grand Moff Tarkin
18.  EV-9D9
19.  Nien Nunb
20.  Gammorean Guard
21.  Saelt Marae/Yak Face
22.  Luke Skywalker in Ceremonial Outfit
23.  Princess Leia in Endor Gown
24.  Logray
25.  Wicket
26.  Biggs Darklighter
27.  Lak Sivrak
28.  Captain/Admiral Piett
29.  Zuckuss
30.  Ishi Tib
31.  Ugnaught
32.  8D8
33.  Chewbacca as Boussh's Bounty
34.  Orrimarko/Prune Face
35.  Mon Mothma (ROTJ)
36.  Death Star Trooper
37.  Ree Yees
38.  Princess Leia in Hoth Gear
39.  AT-AT Driver
40.  R2-D2 with Launching Lightsaber
41.  Princess Leia in Ceremonial Gown

Granted, that is a fairly extensive list, and some of those are arguable (to me, the CommTech Jawa is great and should be the one reissued from here to eternity), but every other figure either has been or is being redone in a much better form.
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