If a deal goes wrong not responding because you don't have the time is no excuse. If a trade was made, it is your responsiblity to fufill your end of the deal to the letter of your agreement. If you agreed to the 4 figures before, without realizing it, it is your fault. Be more careful the next time, but you still have to complete the transaction the way it was first agreed on. Ty is a good guy so I turst that he isn't lying about this.
Just for kicks I looked up the value of a Blue Cartoon Clone, Brain's Toys has them at C-9 for $35. Canadian are even more rare than that, so even if it wasn't mint. Brian's Toys are also fairly big scalpers so there's prices will be higher than anywhere else, shy of maybe E-bay. Considering all that, I say you got a fair trade. You also have to do your research when going into any trade to make sure you are getting a fair trade. Ty apparently did, I'm guessing you didn't since you were guessing on it's value.
And you being banned from the NJSWCC doesn't say much for your credibility. I highly suggest you come through on your end of the deal.
Woah, slow down there Ryan. You may have traded with tyrkazen before, but jerkytoys (Brian) here has traded with three different JD staff members, including me a couple of times, and had impeccable feedback
here (+10) prior to this problem. So I'm willing to vouch for him just a bit too. Plus, being banned from a particular site doesn't necessarily ruin someone's credibility. Hell, many of us here at JD, including myself, have all been banned from RS, and I'm pretty sure we're still all very credible people.
This sounds like the original trade was a major communication problem on BOTH sides. Brian obviously never agreed to trading four of his figures for just one of Ty's, so that's an incorrect statement to say that he did. You also need to keep in mind that this transaction occurred about 4 months ago, so any pricing you do right now isn't accurate (especially
using Brian's Toys), even moreso considering this is a Canadian
(Tri-lingual) Clone, which is usually valued significantly
less than it's American counterpart. A loose Blue Clone (which is effectively what this is since it's on a Canadian card), currently goes for about $5-8 on eBay - certainly not worth $20+ in four other figures. MOMC Blue Clones (on U.S. cards) have ended anwhere between $9.99
and $21.65 of late. So I'm not overly surprised Brian didn't think he was supposed to trade 4 of his figures for it.
Granted, I would've probably handled things differently upon learning that the trade didn't go as planned, and yes, there definitely should've been some communication on Brian's part after the trade went to ****. But swapping the figures back and losing $8 - $10 in shipping costs and getting NOTHING out of it would admittedly suck.
I would also want to point out that Ty trading a figure that was currently available at retail (which the Blue Clone was at that time) for such a HUGE markup in terms of value is definitely not cool, and is frowned on by most board members and traders. Since most of us only deal with current retail prices when trading current product, it's even less surprising that jerkytoys thought that this was supposed to be a one for one deal. Had tyrkazen been selling that figure for the trade value that he was asking for it in return, it would've been considered scalping
. But it's a bit more of a grey area when he's just trying to trade it for such an inflated value. Like I said, most of us frown on such lopsided trades of current product, and we definitely wouldn't be considering anything more than retail value in a trade for a current item.
So with that in mind, I'm almost inclined to say there was some poetic justice involved here. Regardless, it was a messed up trade from the get-go, and both sides share some of the blame.