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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2005, 09:07 PM »
I don't mind most of these, and I'm glad they're doing them, but all at once?  Reminds me of the end of Playmates Star Trek line, you know, when it ENDED.

Bly, Gree, clones, wookies, holo Plo Koon, Shu Mai, great.  The rest... sigh.  And after seeing the inexplicable black Clone Pilot and the green CC, I get to wonder if Hasbro hasn't decided simply to Batman the whole line from here on out.

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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #77 on: July 13, 2005, 09:47 PM »
Gree looks brand new.  Bly looks great, as do most of the others except for that white Guard.  Big pass on him and the silver Neimodian.  The rest look pretty good, even that odd looking light Wookie...

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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #78 on: July 13, 2005, 09:48 PM »
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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #79 on: July 13, 2005, 09:49 PM »
Damn!!!  I really, really like the looks of almost all of these... the Gree though looks kinda weak... I've seen a LOT of custom repains better than that.

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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #80 on: July 13, 2005, 09:51 PM »
The funny thing about the SA 501st Legion Trooper in the picture is that he's holding his antenna in his left hand - almost as if the figure ripped it out of the slot itself and is saying "what the f**k is this stupid thing for?"
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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #82 on: July 13, 2005, 09:53 PM »
Wasn't Gree the one who consults with Yoda on Kashyyk?  Wasn't his helmet all green?

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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #83 on: July 13, 2005, 10:05 PM »
Well - now that I've seen these, I'm sorry to say that MANY of these are re-hashes/re-paints. The Sep. leaders are just slightly modified versions of the same characters from the figure 3-packs around the battle table from AOTC.

Like for example, Shu Mai just has a different color scheme and what looks to be a slightly different "skirt" but that's about it.

Same thing with Passel Argente. The two Wookies are just the Preview Wookie and Wookie Warrior figures with different paint ops and soft good "clothes" - it's sorta like that Simpsons episode where Lisa tried to compete against the Malibu Stacy doll line with her own doll and the same day her doll came out, the toy company that makes Malibu Stacy released the exact same doll again with a new hat - Lisa tries to stop everyone from buying, but Smithers the uber Malibu Stacy collector goes "But she's got a new hat!" - so the first thing I heard in my screwed up noggin' was Smithers saying "But she's got a new hat!" when I saw those two Wookies.

Gree and the 501st Legion Trooper are both repaints of #41

Holo Plo Koon and Holo Aayla Secura are simply clear blue plastic versions of the figures we just got.

The R4-P17 looks to be a repaint of the preview Astro-mech - in one of the shots you can clearly see the socket where the holo-projection of Utapau plugged in. The Nemoidian Guard is a LAME re-paint of a figure that in many stores is THE ONLY figure on the pegs. What were they thinking when they chose this guy as a repaint? They should have made either the red Commander Battle Droid or the generic Yellow clones (under Cody) or generic Green Clones (under Gree) or heck, I'd even be okay with a POTJ/OTC Biker Scout painted green as a neutral posed BARC Trooper.

Even these coveted long hoped for "Final Twelve" are lame.

What happened here? It's like night and day between the first 56 figures and everything else they are planning on releasing. Honestly this is getting to the point of just being plain SILLY.
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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2005, 10:07 PM »
Well - now that I've seen these, I'm sorry to say that MANY of these are re-hashes/re-paints.

Many?  Let's try ALL of them...

15 "new" RotS figures have popped up over the last few days -

Light Wookiee w/Leather shirt (Sneak Preview Wookiee repaint)
Red Shocktrooper (#6 Clone Trooper repaint)
General Greivous’ Body Guard (#8 White repaint)
Plo Koon (#16 Holographic "repeat")
Aayla Secure (#32 Holographic "repeat")
Green Clone Commander (#33 Clone Commander repaint)
Commander Bly (#33 Clone Commander repaint)
Black Clone Pilot (#34 Clone Pilot Repaint)
Blue 501st Clone Trooper (#41 Clone Trooper repaint)
Commander Gree (#41 Clone Trooper repaint)
Silver Neimoidian Warrior (#42 Neimoidian repaint)
Dark Brown Wookiee Warrior (#43 Wookiee version #3)
RotS Passel Argente (Saga Cinema Scene repaint)
RotS Shu Mai (Saga Cinema Scene repaint)
RotS R4-P19 (RotS Sneak Preview Droid repaint)

ALL repaints?  Not a SINGLE new figure mixed in there?!?   >:(

(I;m sorry a new "vest" does not make a figure "new" in my eyes)

Then, on top of that, we get 3 "new" Battle 5-packs (Temple Raid, Throne Room, Hoth Battle) which are all composed of MORE repacks/repaints? 

Hasbro better be saving the GOOD stuff for later in the week...  :-\

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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2005, 10:12 PM »
You're right - that's the problem with me writing a post and still being mid thought - when I started the post, I thought there was at least ONE or TWO new sculpts in the mix - by the time I analyzed each figure, it was apparent to me that NONE of these 12 figures is "NEW" by any stretch of the imagination. They are simply 12 re-paints.

So now the question remains. Why make paint-op variants of Clone Trooper (#6) - Shocktrooper, Clone Commander (#33)  - Green Commander and Clone Pilot - Black Flightsuit and still leave them with their original numerical designations?

To me that would mean that Gree and the 501st trooper should still be #41. Commander Bly should be #33. The black wookie warrior should be #42 (or whatever the original's number was) and the re-done Preview Wookie should be #P2.

So not only are Hasbro taking the cheap way out, they're also willy-nilly deciding which repaints should get new numbers and which repaints remain at the old number.

I'd be much happier if these three other variants were given new numbers and there were 15 new figures instead of 12, at least then there would be some level of consistency.
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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #86 on: July 13, 2005, 10:13 PM »
Yep, I'll hust be getting the Clones. And the Astromech, I love any kind of droid fig. I'm glad I can pass on that crappy Battle Pack set now. Those figs look great, IMO.

The Sep. Leaders I may get. I got them both already in that one Screen Scene, and these are just repaints.

Wookiee Warriors, Nemoidians, and Grievous' Guard I will be passing on.

I always pass on Holo figures.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #87 on: July 13, 2005, 10:22 PM »
Wow.  This is just...wow.

Wookiee Warriors and Neimoidian Warriors overflowing off every peg in every retail outlet in North America?  SHIP MORE!

Grievous Bodyguard horribly underscaled and pathetic when compared with the actual film character(s), and pegwarming?  SHIP MORE!

Releasing multiple Clone repaints at the tail end of a line, thus guaranteeing headaches for anyone and everyone who can't camp out in front of TRU every day in their van?  BRILLIANT IDEA!

The most requested Clone from the new film (Cody) remains unmade?  HEY WE CAN'T DO A SIMPLE REPAINT ON HIM, SO **** IT!

Just when you think it can't get any worse, Hasbro outdoes themselves.  As I said, wow.  Just wow.


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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2005, 10:28 PM »
I dunno how to feel really...  

Hasbro tends to woo people with their words...  Everything they say is the truth, everything they claim is gold.  On one hand I blame the company (obviously) for cutting corners on a line that seemed to be riding a pretty big high...  On the other hand I breeze through forums here and there and the way people act like Hasbro can do no wrong just had me thinking that this was about to bite us in the ass.  It did.

I'm not displeased with everything either...  I personally think the Clones look great.  I don't mind the antenna on the SA Clone (makes for some neat Com specialists in a squad, though I will admit that most of my SA's don't sport the accessory).  The Clone figures overall make me happy, and I'm a fan of the #6 Clone for what he is, though I do see his shortcomings (He's just a notch below the #41 sculpt in my view).

Passel Argente and Shu Mai are cop-outs on the company's part to deliver aliens from ROTS without working for the $6.  So are holographic Jedi figures.  They, like astromechs, are welcome variants down the line, but space them out ya know?  Who wants 2 astromech droids at once?  Space that **** out.  You have time.

Plus, obviously, it's still "cheap".  There's nothing new about those figures...  And cheap's ok sometimes, but like I said, space that **** out...  Try to NOT look like completely tight-assed bastards all at once.

Then there's the Wookiee's, the Grievous Guard, and the Neimodian...  I'll say I'm actually pleased to buy the Neimodians and the Wookiee, but given the Neimodian's current standing at retail, I can't say he was a good choice and have people take anything I say seriously.

The Preview Wookiee's are gone in my area, even when other Preview figs still linger.  So I don't think he's a bad figure to repaint and throw out there.  It's like the #41 Clone...  Quality is selling the toy.  The 2nd Wookiee though, he sucked, and he sits because he sucked.  It seems even casual fans can see that the figure was poor quality (I think it's that same reason that the Neimodian sells poorly, coupled with his relative obscurity).

I've kind of been on a downward spiral since seeing confirmation that the last of the 56 were not the best looking figures.  Bacara started the trend, then I see that Antilles is almost identical to Organa but features about half the poseability, the Zett Jukassa figure looks ok but again isn't terribly poseable...  Quality was heading downward compared to that first blitz of figures, but at least they were new figures.  

These last 12 aren't all flops, by a long shot.  I'll buy lots of certain figures, especially the Clones, but the fact that they are 100% reused stuff is pretty bad.  I'm not real enthused with the end of the ROTS line I guess.  It's just not inspiring...  Things aren't making anyone go "Wow!" even if they are good.  

The Classic stuff though...  Man, Hasbro is just giving people the finger with that ****.  Just terrible selection there, at least at the moment.  Bad ideas when they were new, regurgitated for our enjoyment.

I know a lot hate the Neimodian Gunner, but short of knee articulation and a nice gun, I actually have enjoyed the guy.  He's almost an EU figure though given his obscurity in his scenes.  He's a good army builder if you're into the holo-news stories and comics and such that the Neimodian soldiers wound up in.  Someone's gotta fight to defend their home planet.  He's definitely not appealing to the masses though it seems.

I dig his helmet.   :-\  He's a good sculpt too...  *sigh*  Yeah, I know you guys aren't buying extras no matter what I say.
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Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« Reply #89 on: July 13, 2005, 10:35 PM »
Hmmm... let's see -


Light Wookiee w/Leather shirt (Sneak Preview Wookiee repaint) - Ok, sold me on the sculpt - will get 2-4 more

Red Shocktrooper (#6 Clone Trooper repaint) - Want about 4 of them

General Greivous’ Body Guard (#8 White repaint) - Yuck... probably pass

Plo Koon (POTJ Plo Koon  "repeat") - Kinda cool, will get one for a diorama
 
Aayla Secure (#32 Holographic "repeat") - Too sexy to pass up

Green Clone Commander (#33 Clone Commander repaint) - Want maybe 2 of them

Commander Bly (#33 Clone Commander repaint) - Will take 3-4 of them

Black Clone Pilot (#34 Clone Pilot Repaint) - I guess I want 4 of them

Blue 501st Clone Trooper (#41 Clone Trooper repaint) - Definitely want about 10 of them

Commander Gree (#41 Clone Trooper repaint) - Terrible paint job, customized my own

Silver Neimoidian Warrior (#42 Neimoidian repaint) - Nice surprise, I have 10 of the first version, will get a few more (guess Jesse and I are alone)

Dark Brown Wookiee Warrior (#43 Wookiee version #3) - Hmmm... decent.  Chalk me up for 2 of them

RotS Passel Argente (Saga Cinema Scene repaint) Kinda cool - I can do 1-2 of these

RotS Shu Mai (Saga Cinema Scene repaint) - Will go with 2 of them

RotS R4-P19 (RotS Sneak Preview Droid repaint) - Maybe 1 of him


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