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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #195 on: May 4, 2006, 02:23 PM »
I'm sorry, were you describing Andy Pettitte?

I guess I was, inadvertently.

But check it out.  1st inning, King Felix puts the first 2 on base and then Jim Thome slugs a 3 run HR.

I ******* knew it.

At least Thome's mine too though.

But if Felix gives up any more runs today, he's not pitching for me for a long time.
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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #196 on: May 5, 2006, 12:38 AM »
My guys must have heard me bitching about them in here to bounce back so big this evening.

So I'd like to continue bitching - you guys suck.

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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #197 on: May 5, 2006, 02:32 AM »
My guys must have heard me bitching about them in here to bounce back so big this evening.

So I'd like to continue bitching - you guys suck.

My God that really was a phenomenal offensive outburst, and pitching performance:

14/35, 9 runs, 5 HR, 14 RBI, .400 BA

8.2 IP, 1 W, 1 SV, 12 Ks, 0.00 ERA, 0.58 WHIP

Can't ask for more than that.
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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #198 on: May 5, 2006, 11:15 AM »
Sure can't... the one guy on the team who didn't do anything last night was Tejada, and he's been my best player up to this point. 


By the way... even though I think the moment has passed and there wasn't really going to be a deal anyway - I think the window on my being willing to trade Damon has closed.

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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #199 on: May 5, 2006, 05:26 PM »
Sure can't... the one guy on the team who didn't do anything last night was Tejada, and he's been my best player up to this point. 


By the way... even though I think the moment has passed and there wasn't really going to be a deal anyway - I think the window on my being willing to trade Damon has closed.


I had Tejada last year, he was my team MVP in the first half.  The second half, he tanked. 

Kev told me about the offer of Willis and Damon for Soriano, and I told him that I would not part with Soriano for that combination, but I would for Halladay and Damon.

Johnny Damon is going to produce .300 BA  15 HR  75  RBI  100 R and anywhere from 20 - 40 SB's.  Traditionally here in NY, Torre does not like to turn the baserunners loose.  Damon has already stolen 7 bags, but I'd not be shocked if that tails off.

Dontrelle Willis...who knows.  Maybe he'll turn in 15 W  3.00 ERA and 1.10 WHIP with 170 K's, but I think he's likely to have a down year, especially in the wins department because the Marlins have the worst offense in the National League.  I'd say in all of baseball, but the Royals exist, so, yeah.  Also, Willis' start of 1-2, 4.38 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 27K/39 IP does not really have me chomping at the bit.

Kev hates when I tell him this, but Alfonso Soriano is a total fantasy stud.  Chances are he'll hit .260, but he probably will turn out 35 HR  100+ RBI  100 R and 30+ swipes from a shallow fantasy position, 2B.  On top of that, he has OF eligibility so you have to love the versatility there.  Soriano is a traditional 1st round draft choice, but this year he had that beef with Frank Robinson and sat out in Spring Training, staging an insurrection over having to play the OF, and that dropped him down to about 20th overall in most drafts, down from his perennial 5th to 8th overall.  The thing is, Soriano is coming up on being a free agent in the offseason, and he thinks putting up his phenomenal numbers at 2B will garner him more money than it will from the OF.  But, apparently looking at his .300 BA  8 HR  17 RBI  16 R  5 SB start in a non-hitter friendly park, I'd say he's over it.  Soriano is a first rounder again.

It was a decent offer, but I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on that either.  Halladay in place of Willis, I'd have done it.

 :)
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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #200 on: May 5, 2006, 05:49 PM »
Kev told me about the offer of Willis and Damon for Soriano, and I told him that I would not part with Soriano for that combination, but I would for Halladay and Damon.

Oh I knew you had... Kevin was all ready to go Damon for Soriano but then asked to 'sleep on it' - next thing I know, 3 hours later (nap on it?) he'd come back with the offer of Damon and Halladay, which I rejected.

When asked what happened to the other offer, he said it was just his Yankee vein throbbing - but it was obvious that he'd gotten advice from you.

Despite a horrible outing against the Redsox this week, I'm counting on Halladay to be my ace and I'd only trade him if a comprable SP were involved.    Soriano is worth more than Damon, but I don't think he's worth THAT much more than Damon.


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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #201 on: May 5, 2006, 06:03 PM »
The newest Big Board rankings have Soriano closer to where he ought to be:

1 Albert Pujols, StL, 1B 14 HR in April set ML record   
2 Alex Rodriguez, NYY, 3B Just a matter of time before he kicks it into high gear
3 Vladimir Guerrero, LAA, OF Power coming around w/ 3 HR in past 
4 David Ortiz, Bos, 1B 10 HRs has him in AL HR lead mix 
5 Manny Ramirez, Bos, OF Take solace: Apr/May were lackluster in '05 too
6 Mark Teixeira, Tex, 1B Waiting for power to be unleashed (3 HR, 12 RBI)
7 David Wright, NYM, 3B His 6 SBs already is thing of beauty for owners
8 Miguel Tejada, Bal, SS 14-game hit streak; 16 multi-hit games 
9 Alfonso Soriano, Was, 2B C'mon, don't we all owe Soriano an apology 
10 Lance Berkman, Hou, OF Only NL hitter staying in Pujols' rear-view mirror 
11 Michael Young, Tex, SS Past 15: 26-for-65 (.400), 12 Runs
12 Chris Carpenter, StL, SP 3-0, but 0.86 in other 3 starts (0-1) 
13 Pedro Martinez, NYM, SP  No more than 6 hits allowed in any of 5 starts (5-0) 
14 Bobby Abreu, Phi, OF Overall, #'s good, but 0 HRs in past 10
15 Vernon Wells, Tor, OF Has hit in 22 of 23 games (.396, 9 HR, 25 RBI)
16 Andruw Jones, Atl, OF Past 8: 5-for-26 (.192), 0 HRs, 0 RBIs, 10 Ks
17 Jason Bay, Pit, OF Has been steady, but yet to catch fire
18 Jose Reyes, NYM, SS Struggling w/BA, but 5 SBs in past 6 (leads ML w/ 11)
19 Johan Santana, Min, SP 10 Ks in past outing, but still 3 ER vs. KC 
20 Miguel Cabrera, Fla, O/3 Not seeing many ABs w/ RISP
21 Victor Martinez, Cle, C Leads catchers in 4 of 5 roto categories 
22 Ichiro, Sea, OF BA has risen to .280 range to go w/healthy 8 SBs 
23 Carlos Lee, Mil, OF 10th HR, 20th RBI came vs. C. Zambrano Sunday
24 Gary Sheffield, NYY, OF His 36 ABs w/RISP leads the league 
25 Jim Thome, ChW, 1B One of few w/ at least 20 RBIs and 20 Runs
26 Derek Jeter, NYY, SS Past 7: 14-for-28 (.500) 
27 Carl Crawford, TB, OF Sunday brought 1st HR, 6th SB
28 Travis Hafner, Cle, UT 7 HRs in 1st 11 games, 0 HRs in past 12 games 
29 Curt Schilling, Bos, SP Roughed up @ Cle (5 ER) and 1st loss @ TB 
30 Carlos Delgado, NYM, 1B Solid, steady production (.298, 9 HR, 20 RBI, 18 R) 
31 Roy Oswalt, Hou, SP Has alternated great starts with mediocre ones   
32 Jake Peavy, SD, SP 2 bad outings (Col, Ari) mask 3 great ones 
33 Morgan Ensberg, Hou, 3B His power streak has subsided, but #'s still pretty 
34 Chase Utley, Phi, 2B His 4 HRs came in just 2 of his 24 games 
35 Chone Figgins, LAA, 2/3/O SBs and Runs starting to flow like expected 
36 Eric Chavez, Oak, 3B Enjoying rare April warmth (9 HRs, 20 RBIs)
37 Paul Konerko, ChW, 1B Meeting expectations, and more (.372 BA) 
38 Roy Halladay, Tor, SP Just 1 ER combined in past two wins (vs. Bos, NYY)
39 Adam Dunn, Cin, OF Back to old self: BA in decline, Ks up, but 9 HRs play 
40 Felipe Lopez, Cin, SS 9 SBs making up for power, BA dips 
41 Randy Johnson, NYY, SP Like Oswalt, alternatingly good and bad 
42 Jason Giambi, NYY, 1B 35 HRs, 89 RBI in past 4 months -
43 Todd Helton, Col, 1B Will rejoin team Wednesday (inflamed intestine) 
44 Juan Pierre, ChC, OF Nothing wrong w/17 R, 8 SBs, but just 2 RBIs 
45 Grady Sizemore, Cle, OF Slapping plenty of hits, but 1 HR, 2 SBs disappointing
46 Carlos Beltran, NYM, OF 4th HR came in 2nd game back from hammy layoff 
47 Jonny Gomes, TB, OF 32 HRs in past 126 games -
48 Jimmy Rollins, Phi, SS 17 Runs, 4 SBs solid, but #'s don't meet expectations 
49 Aramis Ramirez, ChC, 3B At Mendoza Line -- 2 HRs in past 7 a decent step 
50 Carlos Zambrano, ChC, SP Each of 6 winless starts include 3+ BBs


Soriano's 9th overall, Halladay 38th, and Damon outside the top 50.
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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #202 on: May 5, 2006, 06:15 PM »
Deal doesn't bother me really, if Kevin wants to throw guys away, that's up to him and this deal I judge as more fair than the preceding, so I won't stand in the way.


This comment is still bugging me a little, for Morgbug to say "if Kevin wants to throw guys away" is totally stupid.  Look at the latest O-rank posted above, Manny is ranked fifth, Peavy 32nd and Sheets not in the top 50.  I gave Kevin a comparable deal involving a 1st rounder, to the one Zod offered for Soriano with Willis/Damon.

The reason why I was trading my first round pick for 2 nice SPs is that I had 5 OF's Crawford, Beltran, Sheffield, Manny, and Gomes, and using the utility I could only use absolute max, 4 of them anyhow.  In my view, Jonny Gomes is going to produce Manny Ramirez's numbers this season, so trading my first round pick wasn't as big of a blow as it should have been.

Kev didn't "throw guys away" Bug he traded his 3rd and 8th rounders for a 1st round Offensive Menace.  What Zod offered him, Willis and Damon for Soriano is the same type of deal.
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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #203 on: May 5, 2006, 06:16 PM »
Yeah but I don't NEED Soriano as badly as I need Halladay and Damon considering that Brian Roberts is my starting 2B.  It would be like trading Halladay for a slight upgrade to my outfield - which isn't that great an idea.

Thinking about it on the way home you've almost convinced me that I should throw caution to the wind and go for it...
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« Reply #204 on: May 5, 2006, 06:54 PM »
What about Damon and Halladay and Willis, for Soriano and Clemens?

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« Reply #205 on: May 5, 2006, 08:29 PM »
Gee Rob, way to show your true side. There's no difference in me asking a friend what they think about a potential trade, just like looking up the stats. I double checked what Matt suggested, and it did make more sense than that.

And Damon was an impulse suggestion due to my Yankee vein. ::)

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« Reply #206 on: May 5, 2006, 08:51 PM »
What's wrong with me figuring out that you were intent on a trade, ran it by Dressel, and changed your mind? 

My 'true side' is observant-fantasy-baseball-participant.  Like I said, it was obvious that you'd gotten advice from Dressel.  What's so horrible about that?

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« Reply #207 on: May 5, 2006, 09:44 PM »
What about Damon and Halladay and Willis, for Soriano and Clemens?

Let me make sure I'm reading this correctly:

Damon
Halladay
Willis

FOR

Clemens
Soriano

Is that the offer?
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Re: JD Fantasy Baseball 2006
« Reply #208 on: May 5, 2006, 09:46 PM »
What's wrong with me figuring out that you were intent on a trade, ran it by Dressel, and changed your mind? 

My 'true side' is observant-fantasy-baseball-participant.  Like I said, it was obvious that you'd gotten advice from Dressel.  What's so horrible about that?

Don't worry I think Kev just misread something.  There's nothing horrible about getting advice from another owner.  Before I traded Manny Ramirez, I asked Chris and Juan their thoughts.
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« Reply #209 on: May 5, 2006, 10:23 PM »
What about Damon and Halladay and Willis, for Soriano and Clemens?

Let me make sure I'm reading this correctly:

Damon
Halladay
Willis

FOR

Clemens
Soriano

Is that the offer?

I'm throwing it up for discussion.  I would have to look into whether or not Clemens is actually going to sign with someone this year and I'm not necessarily comfortable with it.
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