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The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« on: May 21, 2018, 10:17 PM »
I start this thread possibly just as my vent thread.

I am trying so hard not to let others ruin my enjoyment of Star Wars but it's getting more and more difficult.

So tired of the "original" fans BS. If you hate it so much go back to when only the OT existed. There was no internet. So you can stay off of it

You don't have to like all of it. But stop being so high and mighty about it. If you're boycotting the rest of the Disney movies can't you boycott your obnoxious rants too?

Ugh
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2018, 12:24 AM »
Amen to this. 😐
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2018, 07:51 AM »
It does take an excessive amount of energy to hate something so vigorously.  Do these "originals" think they're actually going to persuade people to see things from their POV?
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2018, 09:36 AM »
I don't get out to other sites and have been staying away from big media as it relates to Solo to avoid spoilers.  Who / what site is getting their undies in a bunch that is getting you fired up Nick?

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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 09:43 AM »
I avoid most other sites too. But I used to enjoy Yakface. But reading the comments on the front page stories now is getting to me. Am I overreacting a bit? Probably. I do that. But seriously, if you can't separate your love of the OT from your hate of Disney Star Wars then I feel sad for you.
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 11:02 AM »
I'll have to take a look.

In general I would say I don't hate the "Disney stuff" any more than the prequels and animation projects that Lucas did.

Did I love TLJ? No.  But I've rewatched TFA and RO a hell of a lot more than TPM, and really enjoy those two movies.

I'm not gonna love everything that Disney does, and will sometimes think its kinda crappy (TLJ), but I don't think that is any different than the way I feel about George's stuff.  Some good, some not as good.
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 12:08 PM »
If you hate everything Disney has it's name on then that is fine. It's all opinion. Disney loves to make a quick buck. But why then is your reaction to hop on sites dedicated to this universe we love and go on and on and on about how terrible it is and how "now I'm embarrassed about being known as the Star Wars guy with the people I know".

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Hasbro or whoever would not be producing product after product from the OT in 2018 if the PT and now Disney Star Wars didn't exist. You're only getting a nicely updated Yakface because Star Wars has evolved. Moloch is not taking a spot for an OT character fig. He's why they can produce a nice Hoth Leia in 2018.
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 12:35 PM »
May I suggest also to Jayson or Justin, if you read this first, deny my application for Yakface site membership.

And I want to make sure it's clear I'm annoyed with random people who in this case are commenting on Yakface. I mean nothing disparaging about the site. I'm amazed at the news you guys break and your knowledge.
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2018, 01:01 PM »
But I used to enjoy Yakface.

I recently notice backlash on their Facebook page regarding the movies a few weeks back and that was really the first time I ever saw that en masse.  It felt like people from a different site (one that likes to poke fun at midwesterners and Minnesotans) flooded yakface FB with their hate and vitriol.  But I haven't seen it in the threads (of actual members).  I believe in the front page stories anyone can chime in via discus or anonymous log in without actually being a Yakface member.

But I agree with you, Nick.  These are just movies, books, toys, etc. Enjoy the thing you like and don't worry about that which you don't.  Life will be happier for people if they do.

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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2018, 04:06 PM »
REY IS A MARY SUE! CHINESE WOMEN CAN'T KISS BLACK MEN! ADMIRAL PURPLE HAIR IS A STUPID **** AND UNFIT FOR MILITARY COMMAND! JJ ABRAMS' FAVORITE KEYS ON A KEYBOARD ARE CTRL, C, AND V! THAT CASINO WAS TOO MUCH LIKE THE PREQUELS! Okay I think that's most of the TLJ complaints :P

The Disney films have been far from perfect, and I sure have had both my likes and dislikes about them. But some of the stuff these "purists" are complaining about is just ridiculous. The entire point of TLJ was to train fans to let go, and most refuse to do so.

If you hate everything Disney has it's name on then that is fine. It's all opinion. Disney loves to make a quick buck. But why then is your reaction to hop on sites dedicated to this universe we love and go on and on and on about how terrible it is and how "now I'm embarrassed about being known as the Star Wars guy with the people I know".

I quit watching pro wrestling a few years ago but still frequent some of the sites since I have made good "friends" with other posters. Every week, it's the same thing; show airs Monday night, everyone says it's the worst episode ever, why can't it be as good as it was 20 years ago, people vowing to stop watching forever. Then the next week it's the same people watching and complaining, and spending the rest of the week talking about how much the show sucks. This is what the Star Wars/Disney hatred stuff reminds me of. If it's so bad, why continue to watch? Turn the TV and computer off and go for a walk; you might find a new hobby in the process.

Sidenote, I do love how the Prequels are now well regarded thanks to memes, and children who grew up with them entering the world of the Internet.
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2018, 05:32 PM »
I'm glad other people are noticing this as well. As said, everyone has a right to their opinion, I just don't get the anger and hatred about it. Personally, I've enjoyed the Disney era stuff just fine. It doesn't compare to the OT to me, and probably never could just due to the nostalgia factor - no matter how good a movie is. I've said it before, I just look at these blockbuster type movies like a ten year old "hey, they are making more movies of that thing that I love", and I look forward to each and every one. Plus, my daughter absolutely loves the new stuff (Rey in particular), and I wouldn't trade the connection we have had with Star Wars for anything. And that was due to new material being made.

I made my peace long ago, during the prequels (which I like as well), that I'll always have "my" trilogy and nothing is going to change that. I'm happy that kids today get their own as well. Plus we get bonus non-Saga movies, tv, cartoons, etc. I agree, I miss the times when we were a much more agreeable abd happy lot. Sure, Internet "nerd" fandom has always been a surly bunch, but with the prevalence of social media and comments sections in the Disney era - things have been taken to a new level.  I also tire of the "no one asked for this" comments, primarily directed at Solo but to some extent Rogue One and the other stuff. Just sit back and try to enjoy things, or skip it if it isn't your jam. I see this more and more throughout movies, not just Star Wars. We see it in any remake/reboot of something we grew up on. We can still love those things even if they make new ones.

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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2018, 11:11 PM »
Meh....I don't really give a crap about other peoples' opinions.  (Present company excepted of course.)

I consider the OT "my trilogy", mainly because I was 6 years old when Star Wars came out in 1977.  Other than a few odd choices and lack of quality control, I liked the SEs, but Star Wars: Revisited is the only way I'll watch the original movie now....I consider it the ultimate version of the film.

I enjoyed the PT for the most part, with ROTS being the best of the bunch, but it is painfully obvious that George Lucas had surrounded himself with people who were unwilling to tell him no and his shortcomings as a director are very easy to see.  How the hell could he not get a better performance out of Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman?

The real treat for me with the Disney era films has been watching them in the theater with my two boys.  Jar Jar Abrams is not a good storyteller (he relies way too much on the mystery box), but he can create some of the most amazing visuals!  (I still am in awe of the establishing shot of Jakku with the crashed Star Destroyer.)  I thought Rian Johnson did a fine job with TLJ and truly enjoy the film....it's only line of dialog away from being the best of the new era.

Also, as far as the anthology films go, Rogue One is the best Star Wars film Disney has made so far.  Take out Porkins lite Red 5 and the Evizan/Walrus man cameo and I would have a debate about it being a masterpiece of a film.  While I don't think I would've gone with a young Han Solo film....the trailers have me interested.  I have my tickets for this weekend, and my boys will be happy to see Star Wars and eat popcorn.  Overall, I feel the Anthology movies are a gold mine for Disney, but they need to take risks and get away from the main characters.

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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2018, 06:45 AM »
I certainly like the sequels better than the prequels.  The only problem is that it seems they are making this up as they go and don't have an overall vision for the three movies.  I would bet that things in TLJ would have been quite different if JJ was doing all three movies.  I can understand the hate for Rose, not because she is Asian, but because she is a bad character.  She really wasn't needed.  I really didn't like the forced psuedo love triangle that was put into the movie.  The numbered films are supposed to the Skywalker's story.  I can understand the whole "let it go" thing and moving on, but who knows if we will see an Episode X and beyond.  Really, the easy and obvious storyline would have been to make Rey Luke's daughter and continue the story through her.  You can still kill off the big three and pass the torch, but you still make the story of the Skywalker family.  I think Rian Johnson was a bit hamfisted with the "anyone can be a Jedi" thing.  I think we already knew that since the prequels had maybe one or two non-Skywalker Jedi in them.

As for the anthology films, most of the prequels should have been the Clone Wars equivalent of the Battle of Scariff.  For those of us who grew up with the OT, we always wanted to know about the Clone Wars that Obi-wan spoke about.  In the PT, we get one movie of little Anakin that has little to do with the Clone Wars.  Essentially, that movie could have been 10-15 mins.  Then when we finally get to see the Clone army come into existence, we get about 10 minutes of the Clone Wars, and only the opening battle.  When we get to the final prequel, the Clone Wars are essentially over.  I'm fine with the Clone Wars cartoon, but I would have rather seen that type of action on the big screen instead of the boredom of TPM and AOTC.

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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 11:01 AM »
May I suggest also to Jayson or Justin, if you read this first, deny my application for Yakface site membership.

And I want to make sure it's clear I'm annoyed with random people who in this case are commenting on Yakface. I mean nothing disparaging about the site. I'm amazed at the news you guys break and your knowledge.

Sorry Nick, I can't stand 99.9% of the comments either but other than removing the commenting functionality altogether, it seems like nearly every article spirals into some love/hate Star Wars dick measuring contest. I hope you continue to visit for the articles/content/info more than the commentary because I make a concerted effort NOT to post clickbait articles (unlike other "collecting" sites) that, through their publication, encourage the vitrol and personal sniping that comes with them.
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Re: The "Original" Star Wars Fans Thread
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2018, 12:27 PM »
For sure. If I was a smart man I'd read your post and just avoid the comments.
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