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Offline LandotheScoundrel

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« on: October 8, 2004, 11:13 AM »
I'll start this off by saying that I've been playing probably way too much Battlefront.

Now that Hasbro has shown that they can give us excellent troops when they try (SA Clone and VOTC Stormie), what troops would you like to see revisited in the SA style? Possibly even a seperate line from the main line? Obviously its not really a necessity to have an SA bespin guard, but there's plenty of troops I'd like to see revisited, even more so after playing so much Battlefront (so be prepared to see lots of troopers inspired by that ;D ). Many of these could be created using the SA Clone and VOTC stormie as a base...

* Repackaged SA Clone (I don't think there's one collector on Earth who doesn't want more of these)
* SA Clone with Red markings (packaged with sniper rifle ala Battlefront)
* ARC Tooper (using SA Clone body)
* SA Clone with Yellow markings
* SA Clone with Blue markings
* SA Clone with Green markings (packaged with removeable jet pack and EM rocket launcher)
* SA Clone Pilot (SA body with SAGA pilot head and control panel)
* Scuba Clone!!!

* VOTC Stormtrooper (packaged on a normal card at a normal price point)
* Sandtrooper (VOTC Stormie body with pauldron and cooling unit backpack, packaged with binocs, blaster rifle and large repeating blaster)
* Snowtrooper
* Biker scout (it would be cool if it was also packaged with a sniper rifle, in addition to the normal Scout trooper pistol)
* Dark Trooper (I hated this thing until I played Battlefront, which has it as more of a heavy armored stormtrooper with a jetpack)
* Imperial Naval Trooper (removeable helmet and holster for blaster)
* Imperial Officers!!!

* Rebel Commando (no preposing, just an awesome, SA rebel commando with removeable helmet and weapons)
* Rebel Fleet Trooper (I don't need him to hold his gun in two hands, but there should be the articulation to allow it. Removeable helmet with chin strap)
* Rebel Hoth Trooper (Throw us a ******* bone with this guy!!!)
* Rebel Pilots (generic, SA rebel pilots with removeable helmets. All different wings)

* Battledroid (Can we finally have a battledroid that stands up without drooping over? Packaged with Sniper rifle or rocket launcher ala Clone Wars)
* Super Battledroid (The correct color and without droopy legs. Including the correct articulation to pose when firing)
* IG Droids (the black ones from Clone Wars with lots of articulation)

Well, that's all I've got for the moment. Anyone else?
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Re: Troopers
« Reply #1 on: October 8, 2004, 02:34 PM »
The Biker Scout is at the top of the list for me. I can't stand the POTJ one, really.

They're at a point where they can do the articulation perfectly to make him nice and neutral, but still be posed to ride a speederbike. Give him the SA Clone/VOTC Stormie torso design, a reverse ball-socket head (the socket below the neck old Floppy Hat Luke style), the now standard elbow, knee, shoulder, and wrist articulation, then add the cool new hip articulation from the VOTC Luke and I think it would be an amazing figure.

They really need to just re-release the SA Clone into the Post-OTC assortment right away. There's no excuse to not do it and they're idiots if they don't. Once that happens, I'd love to see all the ones you mentioned, plus a Battle of Geonosis version all dirtied up with orange dirt/dust. And they all should have the rifle instead of the blaster.

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Re: Troopers
« Reply #2 on: October 8, 2004, 04:00 PM »
Hmmm...  who would I choose as my #1 want?  Hmmm, who could it be...  I just couldn't imagine...  Could it be...

Yes, yes it could...

That abysmal flop of craptacular plastic called a figure should be remade first and foremost!  VOTC Han's proof positive they can do this figure much justice.  :)

So on that note I'll do my list up here...

1) Rebel Fleet Trooper:  Hands down my most desired SA Army builder is the RFT.  The original was absolutely horrid, and the POTJ counterpart, while an improved sculpt, suffers on several levels and isn't an ideal army builder...  He's got:

-Caved In Chest sculpt...
-Pre-posed/unposeable arms
-Angle-cut knee articulation (not terrible by any means, but the ball/socket is far superior)
-Pre-posed feet that I've had NO luck reposing
-A rigid vest you can't remove well (why can't weapons be that rigid though?)
-Non-removable helmet
-Terrible looking sculpted-on chinstrap
-A non-working blaster holster
-Not even a connection from the belt TO the holster sculpted there, so it's just kinda "hovering" which is terrible looking
-The Rebel's BB Gun trainer they use before they allow you to have the "big boy" pistol
-A pretty poorly sculpted helmet when you compare it to Antilles' nicely done one, with antenna.

With a new SA RFT, we'd see lots and lots of articulation of course, they could reuse Antilles helmet and blaster easily enough, and if the vest were pliable enough it'd remove easily for those who want some variety in their ranks.

For me, this figure's a must.  But you already knew that.

2) SA Scout Trooper:  This figure's begging to be redone...  If Hasbro were to SA the scout, and if they went that EXTRA mile with a ball/socket hip ala VOTC Luke, then you'd have one incredible figure.  If I were to have my way, the visor would actually flip up (it'd be sturdy and stay down though as well) for a little EU-ish feature.

Give us this Scout!  I'd be all about the packed in sniper rifle (IG-88's) as well.  Why not?

3) Sandtrooper:  VOTC Stormie with a slight reworking of the back piece for a backpack.  Include the pack, and make a removable pauldron.  Make variations of said removable pauldron...  Include a pistol and if I had my way 2 or 3 variations of Sandtrooper rifles seen in the movie. 

Voila, instant classic.

4) SA Endor Rebel Soldier  Give me a POTF2 styled outfit, completely resculpted to be SA.  Re-use the now common removable helmet from the Saga Endor Soldier, and again its an instant classic.  If they redid the Saga figure's lower legs to be SA and neutrally sculpted, I'd be happy with that "new" figure as well at some point.  For now though I'd like the POTF2 style outfit redone SA style.  Include a bandoleir of grenades, or a cloth pouch for the Endor Bunker Bombs, and of course a backpack and rifle (rigid plastic!).  Ethnicity/head variants welcome too.

5) Re-release the Darktrooper, or resculpt him with articulation:  If they did a deluxe Darktrooper with removable armor to reveal a SA Stormie in his unitard thing underneath, that'd rock, but it'd be unlikely at best.  Something like the old cobra "SNAKE" Battlearmor idea.  :)  I'd dig it!  I bet you would too.

(How could you hate the Darktrooper Lando?  That thing's, hands down, one of the best EU designs ever!)

6) SA Hoth Footsoldier:  I'd even take an ultra one with a head variant later that has the tri-pod cannon the rebs use in the trenches or the large hand-held cannon they use in the trenches and in echo base to fight the wampas. 

SA him though, do a removable helmet similar to the 12" Hoth figure helmets, a cloth scarf piece attached to the helmet would simply kick ass, a rigid rifle, a blaster sidearm with working holster...  This figure would rock, and can you think of a rebel with a better outfit to hide the articulation points even? 

7) Hoth Rebel Officers:  Major Derlin, here we go!  Whip up Derlin with some good (or SA) articulation and a removable brain bucket.  Give him a blaster pistol with working holster and you're set. 

8 ) SA Imperial Officer:  No, a real one...  Do up a generic officer in a grey tunic.  Then release him in white with black trousers and black hat, then in black...  If you're real creative, do removable kepi hats and slight variations in their rank plaques.  The first officer though, hands down, should be Jeremy Bulloch as the cowardly officer on Cloud City.  This body could also be used to do a Veers with removable armor variant or ultra figure...  Pack in a holo Vader, range-finder from the AT-AT or something, and you're set.

9) SA AT-ST Pilot/Imperial Army Regular:  Do a SA Imperial Army Soldier with a blaster rifle, helmet, chest armor, removalbe goggles, and a belt with working holster for a pistol would be keen.  Again, as with all open-face figures, I think head variants would be cool as all get out.

10) SA Imperial "Snow" Stormtrooper:  Cloth skirt and facemask are a must, a working holster's second.  Beyond that, SA this guy to death...  If they wanted, pack him in with a NEW sculpt of an actual folding tri-pod laser cannon (done to-scale) and I'd buy it in droves.  I'd buy the single figure in droves too.

11) SA Dresellian Commando:  Even if they reused the Endor soldier's legs and just did a new upper body, I'd be content.  Cloth cape, and a removable eyepatch would be neat if you wanted to upgrade your Oorimaarko figure.

12) Rebel Fleet Officer:  A brown tuniced/trousered trooper with the brimmed hat.  There's actually 2 types of uniform like this, one's more tailored and denotes a higher rank, so I'd take either or really, but the lower ranking one's more common and seen on Home One as well as Yavin.  I'd love this figure just "because".

13) SA Rebel Honor Guard:  Gimme a nicely done Honor Guard with visor-down variation RFT helmet, blaster with holster (removable possibly, like the CCP Commlink?), and a small hand-blaster for the holster and a pike. 

14) Ultra Yavin Lookout RFT:  Repack the RFT figure with a head variant, a scanner pistol, a guard's pike, and a "some assembly required" guard tower as seen on Yavin.

15) SA Death Star Trooper:  Working holster, removable helmet (with working chinstrap instead of the headphone gear stuff), and a set of binders that peg onto his belt ala the POTJ Bespin Guard.

16) Grand Moff Tarkin:  Not an army builder if you have the generic officer in abundance, but nonetheless I want this trooper redone!

17) Imperial Crewman/Technician:  Do a new one...  Even if you wanna cheap out on it, just use the Saga TIE Piloe pack-in's articulated legs on the POTJ Imp Officer's body.  Some new arms, and new heads with removable hats would be neat.  Variants with grey and black hats and head variations would be neat too.  Chair and console from the Executor's Bridge could be cool.

18 ) A-Wing and B-Wing Pilots:  Humans, well articulated if not SA.  Removable helmets of course.  There's still no decent human version of either one.  A ROTJ Y-Winger could be very cool as well if they'd rework "Arvel" from the 3-pack some with a new head perhaps and maybe new limbs.

19) Hoth Rebel Tech:  SA or just well articulated (knee and some arm articulation at least) would be great...  Removable flop-ear hat, etc...  Make an ultra with a head variant and a new vehicle Maintenance Energizer, and you've got another winner right there.

20) Yavin/Endor Rebel Tech:  Same as above but with a removable helmet (sans neck protection extension), some tools...  Make one with a troop/cargo sled or again with the VME and you're set for a nice Ultra set as well.

21) Yavin Warroom Comm. Officer:  Variant of the Tech...  sculpt a new body, a new head for the guy that did the communications, and give him a headset with the command tool on his belt.  Or make him ultra and pack-in the big ass map of the Death Star's trajectory.

22)  Torryn Far (Ion Cannon Commander):  Be nice to have a generic Rebel Female mixed into the officer's.  SA or just nicely articulated, with a console and chair would be nice.

23) Ultra Hoth Rebel Scout with Taun-Taun:  I'd take one...  Reuse the SA Hoth soldier for the most part...  Maybe make new legs with better articulated hips for riding his steed.

And all of this isn't even TOUCHING the Prequal figures I'd love to see redone.  SA Naboo soldiers and guards, SA Panaka, SA Naboo Pilots with cloth coats, better plastic/articulated Battledroids (brown, red, and EU green), SBD's, Spider Droids, Destroyer Droids, Clones, ARC Troopers, Scuba-Troopers, Clone Wars Republic Ground Crew, Republic "Troops" from EU/Faytonni's outfit, SA Jedi army builders, IG Lancer droids, etc., etc...

And then there's EU for the classic trilogy...  Rebel Tankers of all types, Rebel and Imperial Artillery personnel, Rebel Biker Scouts/Fleet Scouts, Rebel "Infiltrator" Commandoes, Aquatic Assault Stormtroopers (Scuba Trooper sounds dumb), Aquatic Assault Rebels (why not?), Rebel and Imperial field medics, Rebel field Salvage droids (Deluxe/Ultra for sure), Imperial Railgunners/Heavy Weapons Specialists, Imperial AT-AA pilots, Imperial AT-PT pilots, Imperial Wheeled Troop Transport Pilots, Imperial Barge Pilots, Rebel Hovertransport Pilots, Rebel "Heavy" Troopers, Rebel Swoop Assault Troops, etc., etc., etc...

EU's just a pipedream, but it'd rock to see the film figures done SA style at least.  Especially if every army builder eventually saw this kind of treatment that the Clone and Stormie have seen. 

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Re: Troopers
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2004, 02:47 AM »
Well, I was going to add my two cents in here, but I think that Lando and Jesse more than have it covered!   :P  I'll pretty much take all of the above, thanks!

But yes, seeing how well the SA Clone and VOTC Stormtrooper were pulled off, there's just no reason for Hasbro not to kick ass like this on every possible army building figure out there.  Just no reason.  It also sucks, obviously, that the two aforementioned figures are virtually unattainable.  What a waste.   >:(

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Re: Troopers
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2004, 02:52 AM »
I just want an SA ARC Clone., and a Darktrooper. That'd please me to no end.
You other want too much  ;D

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Re: Troopers
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2004, 06:50 PM »
Wow those were some unreal lists!!!

I'll narrow mine down - and want to see these released in 4-pks at $20 a pop and include some repacks -

Good Guys

- SA Fleet Trooper w/ removable helmet (alternate heads)
- SA X-Wing Pilot (alternate heads)
- SA Hoth Trooper (alternate heads)
- SA Snowspeeder Pilot (alternate heads)

Bad Guys

- SA Clone Trooper
- SA Scout Trooper
- VOTC Stormtrooper
- VOTC Sandtrooper 
- Concept Stormtooper
- Battle Droid (sturdy plastic)


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Re: Troopers
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2004, 12:43 AM »
What, no love for the AT-AT driver?!