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POTF2 Variants & Errors
« on: February 13, 2003, 12:40 AM »
Discuss, ask questions or tell us about your favorite or maybe unique variants and errors from the POTF2 line of figures.

The obvious being the Boba Fett figure from Green and Red card releases. So many different errors and variants. I have 3 carded Fetts and they are all the full circle and no other error figures. I have heard of and documented so many different variants and errors on this figure and feel like this is the mother of all in this line of figures. I hope to find one or two and own them in my lifetime and wonder how many people have 1 or more of these in their collection?
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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2003, 02:37 AM »
Boy, errors and variations are aplenty in the POTF2 line - so many it's rather scary!  Obviously you've got all of the different cardbacks, from red to green to freeze frames to...  Not to mention all the figures that bounced around between the Collection 1, 2 and 3 designations.  And on and on and on.

Yeah, that original Boba Fett is probably the king of all production variations/errors with those gloves and their full circles, half circles, and no circles.  Then you can throw in the missing Mandalorian insignias...  The list goes on and on.  As for my several original Fetts, they've all got the standard, run of the mill full circles on the gloves.

But what really irritates me to no end, is that way back in late '95/early 1996, I sorta knew a guy from college that was working at the KB in the local mall up in Santa Barbara.  He was taking a bunch of the SW figure cases out the back door - never stocking them on the shelves, but at least paying for them himself.  I remember he told me he had a new box with a couple Boba Fetts, and the rest of that new wave (Lando, X-wing Luke) and to swing by and he'd hook me up.  So I went by - he pulled out the two Fett's and asked me which one I wanted - the one with the full circles or half circles on the gloves.  Unfortunately, neither of us knew the difference at that time, so I picked the full circles, as they were more movie-accurate to my recollection.  Bad choice.  Never had a sniff of any of the Fett variants since.  Oh well...
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Re:POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2003, 03:20 PM »
Awhile ago I was going pretty strong at trying to do a variation set of the red carded Fetts. I have found the
Half circle both hands
no shoulder emblem (full circles)
right hand no circle left full
full circles both hands
Also half circles Jap carded

 There are so many combination that may be possiable. Also with some of the prices rising for certain errors it is almost to expensive to make it a worth while run so I stopped. There are also some other errors associated with Fett such as unpainted parts, some being packed with differnt nozzel paint on the backpack thrusters and so forth. Does anybody have an up to date listing of the potf varrients?
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Re:POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2003, 12:42 AM »
This is what we have on our checklists...

I am currently working to revise these, but I think we have a pretty extensive and thorough list...

Red carded Boba Fett 
___ .00, full circles on both hands
___ .00, half circles on both hands
___ .00, full circle on left hand, no circle right (pe)
___ .00, full circle on right hand, no circle on left (pe)
___ .00, half circle on left hand, no circle on right (pe)
___ .00, half circle on right hand, no circle on left (pe)
___ .00, half circles on hands, no emblem on chest (pe)
___ .00, half circles on hands, no silver on helmet (pe)
___ .00, half circles on hands, no black on helmet face (pe)
___ .00, half circles on hands, missing sawed-off blaster (pe)
___ .00, 2 of the above variants on 1 figure (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands
___ .01, full circles on both hands
___ .01, full circle on left hand, no circle on right (pe)
___ .01, full circle on right hand, no circle on left (pe)
___ .01, half circle on left hand, no circle on right (pe)
___ .01, half circle on right hand, no circle on left (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands, wide open right hand (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands, no emblem on chest (pe)
___ .01, full circles on both hands, no emblem on chest (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands, no skull on shoulder (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands, missing cape and wookie scalps (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands, missing jet pack (pe)
___ .01, half circles on both hands, no silver, upside down fork under left eye (pe)
___ .01, 2 of the above variants on 1 figure (pe)
___ .01 w/Holofoil Sticker, full circles on hands - unreleased prototype

Green Carded Boba Fett
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - full circles on both hands
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, nb - full circles on both hands
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - half circles on both hands
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - half circles on both hands
___ .02, Col. 1, no holo, ob - full circles on both hands 
___ .02, Col. 1, no holo, ob - full circles on both hands
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands,
w/“Exclusively on Showtime” sticker
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb – full circles on both hands, no foot stamps
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb – full circles on both hands, both feet stamped
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - full circle on right, no circle on left (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, nb - full circle on right, no circle on left (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - full circle on left, no circle on right (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, nb - full circle on left, no circle on right (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - full circles on both hands, no emblem on chest (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, no holo, ob - full circles on both hands, no emblem on chest (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob – full circles on both hands, no skull on shoulder (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, ob - 2 of the above variants on 1 figure (pe)
___ .02, Col. 1, holo, nb - 2 of the above variants on 1 figure (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circle on right, no circle on left (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circle on left, no circle on right (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands, no emblem on chest (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands, no skull on shoulder (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands, missing cape and wookie scalps (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands, missing sawed-off blaster (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb – full circles on both hands, micro jet pack (top stem is short) (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb – full circles on both hands, stamped right foot only (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb – full circles on both hands, unpainted left knee (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands, unpainted right knee (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, holo, nb – full circles on both hands, unpainted left knee (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb – full circles on both hands, unpainted right knee (pe)
___ .03, Col. 3, no holo, nb - 2 of the above variants on 1 figure

Freeze Frame Action Slide Boba Fett
___ .04, Col. 3, full circles on both hands, frame on slide reads, “imprisioned”
___ .04, Col. 3, full circles on both hands, corrected frame reads, “imprisoned”
___ .04, Col. 3, half circles on both hands
___ .04, Col. 3, full circle right hand, half circle on the left (pe)
___ .04, Col. 3, full circle left hand, half circle on the right (pe)
___ .04, Col. 3, no circle right hand, full circle on the left (pe)
___ .04, Col. 3, no circle left hand, full circle on the right (pe)
___ .04, Col. 3, no Emblem on chest (pe)
___ .04, Col. 3, no skull on shoulder (pe)
___ .04, Col. 3, 2 of the above variants on 1 figure (pe)

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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2003, 11:45 PM »
How about the FF R2? I think it's the one w/ tools.

He came with the "Imperial" slide, and "Death Star Slide", with the "Imperial" being the HTF variation.

Then, there was the Captain Piett nameplate sticker.
From what I remember, there was a toss up w/ the "blaster pistol" and "baton".

Thats my favorite. I dunno, associating "baton" and Star Wars just seems kinda femme.

The only other one I remember is the Greedo w/ green or yellow knee pins. Pretty sure the green were the rarer.
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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2003, 11:33 AM »
yeah all good ones,
and sabers, and photo changes (Ben Kenobi head shot and full figure)...

Pondo has early gray beard variations

open and closed hand variations on Han Solo Hoth and Tusken Raider

Lot's of type changes

The one I like quite a bit is the Flash Back Princess Leia. There are 2 card back photo variations of Amidala. One is decisively rarer and I'll post the specifics soon...
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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #6 on: April 1, 2003, 10:54 AM »
The one I like quite a bit is the Flash Back Princess Leia.
There are 2 card back photo variations of Amidala.

The first has her in the celebration gown and is the incorrect variation.

The correct variation is the photo of her in freedom fighter gear.
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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #7 on: April 2, 2003, 03:36 AM »
Would you class the 'shadows' Vader on a green holo card, a variant?
I don't know how to class it as it is not a variant of the original, it's a different figure altogether ???
R5 D4 had alot of variants between straight and L latches on all the different cards.

I don't go in for these usually, but if I know of a variation (it has to be on the figure as I am an opener) beforehand I will try to look for it, like bloody stump Luke. I would not buy 4 Lukes for the variations. I am having enough trouble trying to get one of each let alone multiples.

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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #8 on: April 2, 2003, 11:46 AM »
The 'SOTE' pose Vader is a variation of a Collection 3 Darth Vader. It has the same Asst. # 69802 and that number is specific to the figure. While there are many things that make it different than any other Darth Vader released on a green card, it is still a variation and not classified as a different figure.

There are plenty of R5-D4 variations. The latch and also the warning (none, sticker and printed) make for some interesting combinations.

The packaging variations really do not come into play for the collector that 'opens' and displays their collection without the cards and bubbles. I do understand having the difficult challenge of trying to have one of each figure and the variations if they are directly associated with the actual figure. I am working on finishing up my 'POTF2 Red/Orange Carded Collection' and all the open and closed hands, sabers, etc... are giving me a run for the money. It does make it more gratifying to find a figure you need and at a price that is within reason. Good luck and good posts!
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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #9 on: April 2, 2003, 06:23 PM »
I have that version of Vader. I beleive that EE are still selling them. Anyway the version I have has an almost clear saber.

 But as far as the POTF2 line goes has anyone been compiling a list of errors? I know that there are a few people buying up any error they can find. Miscarded wrong stickers and so forth.

 I have another question or thought rather. Reguarding the miscarded figs. Are they all really miscarded or are some inhouse samples. prototype packaging perhaps? How would you really know unless you knew the source?
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Re: POTF2 Variants/Errors
« Reply #10 on: April 5, 2003, 03:15 AM »
We will be updating, revising and basically revamping all our variation/error lists very soon. I have done my best to include any and all errors I can verify with 2 or more sources. We threw the current lists up quickly to coincide with the opening of jedidefender.com. I was a rookie list writer and there are a lot of things I learned and have corrected on the lists I am currently revamping. Basically, I compiled all the lists and didn't document any sources, so I am being more thorough and rechecking and documenting the sources to insure that we post legitimate and correct data for you the fans. I am not saying our current lists are false, they are just raw and unpolished.

With that said...

there are quite a few sites out there that have lists and no real back-up or photo references, so you have to take them at their word. I would be a traitor if I directed you, so I invite you to search for yourself and see what you can dig up. I also invite anyone to submit any errors they have with visual proof to me and help us continue to update and keep our lists fresh and unique. I recently (yesterday) had a person email me 850+ verifyable variations and errors from all Star Wars releases. These are from his personal collection and can all be verified with visual proof. I've been scouring the galaxy for good guys like him. He is letting us use any we have on our lists as an act of charity and to share his love and passion for the variation/error collectible. I will reveal his name as soon as I have gone through them and added them. It is a major pot of gold I have been long awaiting!

As far as prototypes or test run figures go versus the miscarded figure...

I would say that it is a little more well known if a prototype/test run carded figure exists because they create a few more than the average error usually will have. I'll see if I can dig up the major test run/prototype figures from POTF2 and post them soon!
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wrong slide
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2003, 02:31 PM »
Does any one have slide card comes with wrong slide?I have one.Please see photo:
www.geocities.com/hkswcwai/Figure_page1

It is a Luke Bespin w/Endor Rebel Soldier slide.
Unforunately it is in Canadian card,otherwise
it should be worth much more.
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Re: wrong slide
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2003, 11:07 AM »
As I continue to update, reformat, edit and finalize the 'new' potf the sequel lists, I have come across many figures with the wrong slide packaged along with them. In these cases, it's not a matter of worth or value... It's a matter of how cool it is to you or the owner of such a rare and cool item. Canadian or U. S. won't make better or worse. Be glad you have something like this. It also might make someone you trade with happy .

The one's that have been given attention in terms of slide errors or variation are:

Boba Fett - the slide with 'imprisoned' misspelled as 'imprisioned'

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R2-D2 (datalink, periscope) - 'Imperial Trash Compactor' written on slide frame rather than 'Death Star Trash Compactor'

Beyond that, slide errors are cool to have and I would assume there are collectors out there that hunt for, collect and treasure these unique figure mishaps.
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