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Title: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: DSJ™ on April 30, 2010, 05:00 PM
Next Batman Movie Coming July 20, 2012!  (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65650)

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Warner Bros. Pictures has set a July 20, 2012 release date for Christopher Nolan's third Batman movie in conventional and IMAX theaters! That is a little over two weeks after Sony Pictures is releasing their Spider-Man reboot on July 3, 2012.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on May 1, 2010, 02:00 PM
Next Batman Movie Coming July 20, 2012!  (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65650)

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Warner Bros. Pictures has set a July 20, 2012 release date for Christopher Nolan's third Batman movie in conventional and IMAX theaters! That is a little over two weeks after Sony Pictures is releasing their Spider-Man reboot on July 3, 2012.

I'm sure it will be in 3D!!! :P
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2010, 10:33 AM
Nolan: Third Batman film to be called "The Dark Knight Rises", and the Riddler will not be the villain (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/109547-third-batman-to-be-titled-the-dark-knight-rises).
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on October 27, 2010, 10:35 AM
NOT in 3D!  WOOHOOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Hemish on October 28, 2010, 07:10 AM
NOT in 3D!  WOOHOOOOOO!!!


+1
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2010, 11:45 AM
Count me as another who is very glad to hear that Nolan is sticking to his guns and going IMAX/HD for TDKR.  3D is fine I guess, but not everything needs to be 3D.

Not surprised that the Riddler isn't going to be in the film... the solving riddles schtick doesn't seem like a good fit with Nolan's Bat-verse.  I guess they could have changed him up, but why bother where there are other bad guys to exploit.

I'm still hoping that they can bring in some new baddies in this movie.  I loved the fact that they started out with Scarecrow and Ra's, and I'm really hoping they decide to showcase someone 'new' in this movie.  Batman has so many great villians, there is a treasure trove to choose from - Black Mask, Clayface, Firefly, Hugo Strange, Killer Croc, Lady Shiva, etc.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on October 28, 2010, 11:50 AM
I can't see Croc, Clayface, Bane, Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy... any of the "super" beings.

I'm hoping for something along the lines of Catwoman working for MOB BOSS X.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on October 28, 2010, 01:44 PM
Just don't do a super-movie killer by having 2+ villains. I prefer to have one showcased, and Nolan's done a good job of that. Sure, Scarecrow had an appearance in TDK, but that's all it was. But it was close to overkill with the Joker and Two-Face in it.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iFett on October 28, 2010, 02:06 PM
So why is he rising?  Didn't he already begin?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 501ST on October 29, 2010, 02:06 PM
No Riddler - Win!!!

No 3D - Win!!!

Title - will be fine for me if the movie can match it's predecessors and keep the momentum going.

Title rationale theory - Batman killed the cops and a few others according to the "official story" so perhaps coming out from under the villain tag he'd get to keep Dent's rep intact?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: name on October 29, 2010, 04:15 PM
Title theory:

Batman's got little blue pills in his utility belt.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darby on October 29, 2010, 08:00 PM
Very pleased to hear no Riddler and no 3D.  I have to think Catwoman is the most logical choice for the big bad, but who knows.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: darth broem 2 on November 1, 2010, 09:45 PM
I actually like 3-D but it does not have to be with EVERY movie of course.  I really hope they don't go with the Batman has to face 3 villians at the same time crap.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on November 3, 2010, 10:23 AM
Latest rumor (http://movies.ign.com/articles/113/1131630p1.html) is that Charlize Theron is up for a role in The Dark Knight Rises, and that role is Sarah Essen (love interest for Commissioner Gordon).  Those who have read Batman: Year One will recognize the name.  Another rumored part is that of Julie Madison as a love interest for Bruce Wayne, and a character who in the comics also had several run-ins with Clayface.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on November 3, 2010, 02:53 PM
I guess that explains why the Dark Knight is rising. >:D
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on November 3, 2010, 04:14 PM
I'm just happy there's no Maggie Gyllenhaal.  I don't really like her, and thought she was a downgrade from Katie in TDK.  Not that Katie is the most brilliant actress, I just like her better.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 3, 2010, 06:25 PM
Seeing how she was blown up in the last movie, I didn't think she'd be back.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Symposium on November 3, 2010, 08:00 PM
I think Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises are two of the worst film titles ever and both in the same franchise, unprecedented?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on November 4, 2010, 01:23 AM
Batman Begins may be relatively uninspired, but The Dark Knight (no "Rises") is an excellent title.  Two of the worst titles in the history of film?  Hardly.

Not when you have titles like "Pootie Tang" or "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood."

Just sayin'.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Symposium on November 4, 2010, 02:36 AM
Batman Begins may be relatively uninspired, but The Dark Knight (no "Rises") is an excellent title.  Two of the worst titles in the history of film?  Hardly.

Not when you have titles like "Pootie Tang" or "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood."

Just sayin'.

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The Dark Knight is a brilliant title but the title I'm talking about, The Dark Knight Rises is not. Also you've just used two 'comedy' films as examples of bad titles but they don't count because they're not trying to have any serious meaning.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises (both unispired) can be considered two of the worst titles in the history of film but NOT the worst. The list could be endless and if numbered these two could be at the bottom or would at least be below Attack of the Clones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 501ST on November 4, 2010, 07:54 AM
The list could be endless and if numbered these two could be at the bottom or would at least be below Attack of the Clones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Attack of the Clones was the first title that came to mind when I read the thread title and KOCS I'd agree is also a fail.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on November 4, 2010, 10:46 AM
Yeah, I can't say I was particularly impressed with "The Dark Knight Rises" as the title, but I'm still looking forward to the movie none the less.  I do like that they have gone the way with actual movie titles in the franchise though.  I think that sounds better than "Batman 2" or something.  The same way I like hearing "The Empire Strikes Back" instead of "Star Wars 2".  Although I like a number of movies with the simple "number" titles, I sort of wish more of the superhero/comic book movies went with actual different titles like this.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Symposium on November 4, 2010, 01:56 PM
I'm still looking forward to the movie none the less.

Agreed but at the minute all we have is the title lol

I do like that they have gone the way with actual movie titles in the franchise though.  I think that sounds better than "Batman 2" or something. 

The only time a number sounds good is if it has the word "Part" before it. Back to the Future, The Godfather and Return of the Living Dead for example.

The same way I like hearing "The Empire Strikes Back" instead of "Star Wars 2". 

er... Star Wars 5 surely?  :P

I sort of wish more of the superhero/comic book movies went with actual different titles like this.

Yeah Spiderman 2 was originally going to be The Amazing Spiderman but Sony chickened out. Maybe the reboot series will fix it.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on November 4, 2010, 02:09 PM
The same way I like hearing "The Empire Strikes Back" instead of "Star Wars 2". 

er... Star Wars 5 surely?  :P


 :)  Yeah, I guess I was thinking more in the OT time frame, when the original movies were first released.  I'd kind of like to see the next Spider-Man movie called something like "The Amazing Spider-Man" as well.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on November 11, 2010, 07:42 PM
Latest rumors (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/110368-rumored-the-dark-knight-rises-female-short-list) are that Nolan is meeting with actresses for two female roles in the Dark Knight Rises, one a female lead/romantic interest and one a villain.  The short list is said to include Anne Hathaway, Keira Knightley, Natalie Portman, Blake Lively, Naomi Watts, and Rachel Weisz.  Although it has been done before, I don't know if I'd want to see someone like Lively in two DC properties (she plays Carol Ferris in the GL movie as well).  Otherwise, seems like a nice list.  It is tough to know for sure, but one would think the villain role would be Catwoman, or possibly Talia al Ghul.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on November 11, 2010, 08:37 PM
What about Poison Ivy or Harley?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darby on November 11, 2010, 10:27 PM
I think the villain is almost certainly Catwoman or Talia.  I'm pulling for Catwoman (Rachel Weisz!!!), but Talia may make the most sense given where the story has been (Batman Begins).
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: name on November 12, 2010, 10:08 AM
They did drop a verbal cue in the last flick that the new body armor would protect against dogs...or cats.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on November 12, 2010, 04:07 PM
So its both Catwoman and Talia.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on November 12, 2010, 07:11 PM
Here are some possibilities that I wouldn't mind seeing based on that list of actresses and the characters they could play.


My favorite choices would be Portman as the villain, Quinn, and Weisz as Kyle/Catwoman, the love interest for the film who could also cause some additional frustration for Batman.

If not, I'd go for Knightley as Talia to play both the love interest and villain.

Either storyline would have some been there, done that stuff with it but I think Quinn/Kyle would make a helluva film.

I'm not an Ann Hathaway fan and really would have no interest in seeing her in the film in any role.  I also wouldn't like seeing Lively here as she's already in GL.  Portman is in Thor so seeing her in yet another superhero film could be a little redundant, so I'd have no problem with Knightley as Quinn if Nolan went that route for a villain.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on January 19, 2011, 01:13 PM
Catwoman and Bane cast (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48139)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on January 19, 2011, 02:14 PM
Blah.  I don't like Ann Hathaway.  It's not as bad of a choice as Maggie Gyllenhaal, though.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2011, 03:04 PM
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Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle

Gross.

Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: McMetal on January 19, 2011, 03:08 PM
Cad Bane is in this movie?  :D

It's a shame they couldn't find another villain from, oh the first FIFTY YEARS or so of the comic to use. I guess they didn't have enough choices in there.  ::)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: evenflow on January 19, 2011, 05:10 PM
I remember enjoying the Bane storyline int he comics but there is no set up for it. I cant imagine it is done right. There is no Robin, no Azrael, no replacements. If Batman's back isnt broken by the end of te movie i will probably be dissapointed.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Darby on January 19, 2011, 08:35 PM
Catwoman and Bane cast (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48139)

Hell yes!  She's not the obvious first choice for Catwoman (that would be you, Rachel Weisz) but I think she's terrific.  Cannot wait.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2011, 02:56 PM
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Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle

Gross.



Why?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Matt on January 20, 2011, 03:18 PM
Why?

Why?  I'll let her tell you herself: (http://anythinghollywood.com/2010/02/anne-hathaway-thinks-shes-ugly/)

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“I think I’ve got really weird features. I have very large features on a very small head,” she tells the magazine. “But, you know, I’m not going to beat myself up. It’s my face. I’m not very pretty. But that’s OK because I do know that I look like myself, and I think at the end of the day, as nice as pretty is, authenticity is more important.” The self-effacing actress continues: “If I don’t work out at all, I have too much curve and no tone—which is not OK. It’s about finding balance.”

Nice figure, but just a busted-ass face.  Hope she keeps the mask on most of the time.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2011, 05:00 PM
Hmmm. 
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Matt on January 20, 2011, 06:12 PM
I will say, though, that she looked pretty hot in the Get Smart one-sheet:

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5867/getsmizzle.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2011, 11:09 PM
Yeah, I guess I see your point but I never really had a problem with her face myself.  I get what you're getting at (she's saying) but I'm just not in total agreement.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_de-44mnlBkg/SXF1x5vpRiI/AAAAAAAAGPY/ZNIiX4lmbsQ/s400/anne_hathaway_formaldress.jpg)

Maybe I'm distracted easily.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on January 21, 2011, 08:45 AM
Someone did a mock-up...

(http://cdn.gs.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hathaway-catwoman.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Mikey D on January 21, 2011, 11:29 AM
Someone did a mock-up...


I like this one better...

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6765/catwoman011911hathawayp.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Hemish on January 21, 2011, 05:56 PM
Hot Toys Anne Hathaway mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 21, 2011, 08:29 PM
I just don't care for the CatWoman character at all.  I mean it's a Batman movie.  Save CatWoman for another movie series.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: DSJ™ on February 14, 2011, 10:35 PM
Marion Cotillard joins Anne Hathaway, Christian Bale for 'Batman 3' (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/14/marion.cotillard.batman.ppl/index.html?hpt=Sbin)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 15, 2011, 03:58 AM
I just don't care for the CatWoman character at all.  I mean it's a Batman movie.  Save CatWoman for another movie series.  Oh well.

What he said.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: 501ST on February 15, 2011, 07:06 AM
I just don't care for the CatWoman character at all.  I mean it's a Batman movie.  Save CatWoman for another movie series.  Oh well.

This
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on February 15, 2011, 10:13 AM
It could be worst. They could include Catgirl too!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Diddly on February 15, 2011, 09:30 PM
Heard a rumor that Joseph Gordan Levitt (sp?) is supposed to play Carmine Falcone's son, thus bringing the movie "full circle" with Batman Begins.

And with all the Inception guys joining the cast, how weird would it be if the movie ended with the revelation that the whole trilogy was an Inception style dream for Bruce Wayne?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2011, 10:16 PM
They're, I guess, maybe scouting Pittsburgh for filming locations for the new Batman Movie...  We've been getting a lot of film crews here, I guess it's fairly inexpensive, so it's interesting for the locals. 

"I am # 4" was filmed here, right in the town beside mine where I go to work, and at the high schools for that district.  The park just a few minutes from my gf's house had some scenes filmed there as well, and a high school near her district was used as well.

Batman's bound to draw way more gawkers I'd imagine.  It was funny watching the people when I went to work with lawn chairs out to watch the filming.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on February 16, 2011, 01:25 AM
I Am Number Four has Dianna Agron and Teresa Palmer in it.  If I lived near there I'd be willing to stake out a park for a shot at seeing one of those hotties.

On top of that, I think that film looks pretty good, I'm going opening night to scope it out.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2011, 02:08 AM
You'll have ot let me know how it is Eric, as I'm curious but not enough to pay...  haha.

The park I guess didn't get many people up to it.  It's secluded.  We used to run our practices for youth football up there, and the last year I coached we ran them there the entire season.  A bike ride away from her place I'd say.

Where they staked out seats was the town shots which are in the town down the river from mine...  One of several with active steel mills in them.  You'd have to have seen what was going on daily.  It had Simpson's Yokel written all over it.  It was like an event, really.

Girls were camping out at the one high school where some footage was shot (Hampton School District...  Couple Steelers have homes in that district I believe) to get a glimpse of whoever the "hot guy" is in that movie.  One of the Twilight actors or something?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on February 16, 2011, 10:18 AM
Alex Pettyfer.  Not from Twilight, but he is a former model from the UK.  He's got another film coming up called "Beastly" which is a take on Beauty and the Beast.  That actually looks like it might be good.  Standard date night/romance type film.  Also has Vanessa Hudgens in it.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on February 16, 2011, 01:06 PM
I think Jesse was referring to Abduction with Taylor Lautner.  That was filmed in Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on February 16, 2011, 03:32 PM
Could be.  I'm not familiar with the Lautner film.  I Am Number Four was filmed in Murrysville, Vandergrift and Pitt according to IMDB.com.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2011, 03:58 PM
Yeah Vandergrift's the lawnchair place E...  It was filmed a couple areas other than that though too.  The park's down near my gf's place.

And you're right Bill, that was the guy.  I remember it being on the news that girls from Hampton were camping out, so I guess that must've been filming at the same time in Hampton at their high school.  I know I am #4 filmed at the Kiski High School (Vandergrift-ish) too.  All right at the same time.

And now Batman...

Russel Crowe just filmed something here not long ago, I forget what it was off-hand (was it the movie about the guy getting his woman out of the Allegheny County Jail?), and he was riding his bike around Pittsburgh while he was here...  I guess he got lost and asked for directions, and the guy he asked said, "You're Russel Crowe?", and he said yeah, and then the guy just gave him the direction he needed to go and walked back in his house...  Russel said something about moving here because nobody bothers you and treats you the same...  I thought it was pretty funny at the time.  That movie looked interesting but I never saw it and I don't think it did well.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on May 20, 2011, 12:04 PM
The Official Site (http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/) for the movie is now up, complete with some sort of chanting audio.  Also, it appears the first look (http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/forhashtagunaltered.jpg) at Tom Hardy as Bane has shown up online as well.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Diddly on May 20, 2011, 10:13 PM
I was trying to describe the mask over the phone to Former JediDefender.com Poster Famine and he mentioned something about Ra's al Ghul having a collection of masks in Batman Begins. I haven't watched that movie in ages but it might be worth a shot to go back and see if it's in there.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on June 17, 2011, 01:54 PM
The first teaser is apparently attached to Green Lantern this weekend, and has - for the moment - shown up online:

http://comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=39689 (http://comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=39689)

Nothing to get too excited about, no footage or anything like that - sort of similar to the first Dark Knight trailer if I remember correctly.


EDIT: Nevermind, it was revealed that this was apparently a fake (I know it wasn't attached to GL when we saw it).
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Sprry75 on July 13, 2011, 11:17 PM
The first teaser is apparently attached to Green Lantern this weekend, and has - for the moment - shown up online:

http://comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=39689 (http://comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=39689)

Nothing to get too excited about, no footage or anything like that - sort of similar to the first Dark Knight trailer if I remember correctly.


EDIT: Nevermind, it was revealed that this was apparently a fake (I know it wasn't attached to GL when we saw it).

Hmm.  Well what about this one (http://comicsastonish.tumblr.com/post/7579653954/tdkr-teaser)?

Actually, after watching it again, I'm a little skeptical.  Seems fishy they'd release a trailer that is 95% footage from the other movies.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Diddly on July 14, 2011, 02:52 AM
Charlie Bros is pulling all of the official trailers from the internet... no clue why
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Mikey D on July 14, 2011, 07:45 AM

Hmm.  Well what about this one (http://comicsastonish.tumblr.com/post/7579653954/tdkr-teaser)?

Actually, after watching it again, I'm a little skeptical.  Seems fishy they'd release a trailer that is 95% footage from the other movies.

That one is the real one - apparently it's attached to HP7 part 2.

As for reusing footage, remember it's only a teaser - just enough to get the fanboys excited (not that this movie needs the excitement).  And remember the teaser from The Dark Knight - it was mostly words from the movie with the Joker laughing at the end.

And the teaser poster
(http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/TheDarkKnightRises_TeaserPoster-550x813.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on July 14, 2011, 09:52 AM
There's something about that poster I really like.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Matt on July 14, 2011, 11:14 AM
There's something about that poster I really like.

Is it the subliminal unicorn?

(http://i.imgur.com/HyRKN.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Diddly on July 14, 2011, 01:23 PM
Batception!

Also it took me like 5 minutes to notice the Batman logo when I first saw the poster. :-[
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on July 14, 2011, 01:51 PM
There's something about that poster I really like.

Is it the subliminal unicorn?


Well, when you put it that way...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on July 14, 2011, 07:20 PM
I don't know. I still see the unicorn.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on July 15, 2011, 11:55 AM
They ran a trailer in front of Harry Potter last night.  Scenes from previous films with a voice over, then they cut in a few bits that look to be from the new film, including Gordon speaking to, I'm assuming, Batman, and a quick shot of Bane.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on July 16, 2011, 08:31 PM
Saw the teaser today in front of HP as well.  Not a lot of new stuff obviously, but still kind of cool just knowing it is on the way.  Seems like they are really pushing the "end of the Dark Knight saga" type of angle, with this being Nolan's final film.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 16, 2011, 08:54 PM
I know Nolan has said it's his last film, but I find it hard to believe that they won't take a couple year break and come out with a fourth one if the money's right.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on July 16, 2011, 09:34 PM
I'm sure there will be another Batman film after this one.  But it won't have Nolan and it won't have Bale and it'll probably be some type of "reboot" that may or may not backtrack on anything we've already seen.  You know, just like every other franchise that makes money for the studios.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on July 17, 2011, 10:13 AM
Yeah, I have a feeling that if Nolan/Bale are indeed done, this franchise will get a sort of semi-reboot as well (similar to Spidey).  I know everyone dreads the reboot word, but I think that may be the future of a lot of comic book movies as actors get too old or directors want to move on.  I guess in some ways it is similar to comic books when the creative teams move on.  The thing is, for many of these heroes, I think it would help if they didn't have to re-hash the origins over and over again.  There might be less complaining then.  I have to say, for as much as I love these Nolan Batman movies (and they are great), if they do start somewhat fresh next time I wouldn't mind seeing a little more "fun" version where the Robin (Dick Grayson) character could actually be introduced and not be stupid.  Definitely not like the horrible older movies, but maybe a shade lighter than the Dark Knight saga as well.  Anyways, still looking forward to "Rises" next year, and I'm sure it will be great.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: name on August 4, 2011, 08:35 AM
spoilers

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/01/the-dark-knight-rises-set-photos-batman-bane_n_914700.html#comments
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on August 4, 2011, 01:19 PM
Yeah that fight's taking place on the steps of CMU's one building.  They had 5th Avenue through the Oakland section of Pittsburgh (where all the colleges are pretty much) shut down for filming.  It's a giant fight/riot scene.  Lots of people and fake snow (which it's been blue blazing hot here and humid, so I weep for those people in the coats).

They've also been shutting Bigelow Blvd. down a lot which runs above the Allegheny River kind of, into the same general area as 5th Ave.

One of our local news guys got married the one day they were filming and was allowed to have a pic with his new wife in the Batmobile, which looked like it had tan or grey camo on it or something.

A couple of the guys are going to Heinz Field on Saturday while they film a fictional football game with the "Gotham Rogues" there, and one of the local collectors got a paid extra gig with costume fittings and stuff.  He's quite ecstatic about that. ;D  I'm too busy to make the trek down at all, but wanted to try for an extra's part.  Would've been fun.
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Post by: Brian on August 5, 2011, 10:34 AM
First pic (http://www.newsarama.com/film/dark-knight-rises-anne-hathaway-catwoman-110805.html) of Anne Hathaway as Catwoman has been officially released.

(http://i.newsarama.com/images/selina_kyle-dark-knight-rises.jpg)
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Post by: efranks on August 5, 2011, 11:11 AM
Hmmm.  And she's on the Bat Pod.  Interesting.  Would like to see more of the outfit but it looks like it's going to be in the same family as what the X-Men outfits were like...or GI Joe.

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Post by: McMetal on August 5, 2011, 12:45 PM
Gotta love the cheap, Bedazzler-sequined looking eyewear...not.
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Post by: Phrubruh on August 6, 2011, 12:15 AM
I bet that bat-pod really purrs.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Diddly on August 6, 2011, 05:23 PM
No way she's able to top the brilliance that was Halle Berry's Catwoman.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 6, 2011, 05:28 PM
Hmmm.  And she's on the Bat Pod.  Interesting.

Agreed.

Hathaway (at least what you can see of her) looks good though...  ;D
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: DSJ™ on December 17, 2011, 06:48 PM
 Trailer Leaked (http://www.twitvid.com/embed.php?guid=RZTDH&autoplay=0)  Not the best but will do for now. 
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Post by: Matt_Fury on December 17, 2011, 10:12 PM
This is going to be one hell of a movie!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on December 18, 2011, 09:49 AM
I saw the Trailer at Sherlock Holmes on Friday.  Looks like the third one will be as good as the others, though I'm skeptical o Bane as a villian.  It had heavy messaging that this was the last story - have they flat out said there will only be three?  Or are they going with the comic storyline where Bruce is broken and someone new will need to take up the mantle for the next movie?  Seems kind of a shame to just end at 3 since these latest versions have been done so well.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nicklab on December 18, 2011, 10:44 AM
I think a trilogy is a pretty good run for a Director / Lead Actor team.  Would I love to see Christopher Nolan team up with Christian Bale down the road for another Batman film?  Sure.  But after seeing movies like Inception you have to recognize that Nolan has SO MUCH to offer the film world.  And I don't think he wants to get pigeon-holed by a franchise like Batman.  I'm sure that Warners will dangle a boatload of cash in front of both Nolan and Bale.  But I think they're both well off enough that they could do projects that are their passions and steer clear of genre films.  But then maybe they would be interested in revisiting things 5 years down the road...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on December 19, 2011, 09:46 AM
Bale just said recently that he and Nolan were both done after this film.  I'd be surprised if an offer of money from WB was enough to get either of them to change their minds.  If the stuff you read about Bale is true, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that changes just because money is waved at him.  If he doesn't want to do more films he won't.

But, of course, WB is going to do more Batman movies.  So I'm assuming they'll just reboot and we'll get another Joker film sometime around 2015, 2016...

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on December 19, 2011, 02:11 PM
Trailer is officially online now:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknightrises/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknightrises/)
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Post by: Ben on December 19, 2011, 02:26 PM
Hmm. I really hope I'm not struggling to understand Bane throughout the entire film. I've watched this trailer twice now and I still don't know what he said to Bruce.

But it looks pretty neat otherwise.  :)
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Post by: BillCable on December 19, 2011, 02:52 PM
With all the negative reaction so far to the 6-minute teaser, I'm pretty certain they'll redub his lines.

I don't have it in front of me, but he said something along the lines of "When Gotham is in ashes, you'll have my permission to die."
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Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on December 20, 2011, 09:18 AM
I saw the Trailer at Sherlock Holmes on Friday.  Looks like the third one will be as good as the others, though I'm skeptical o Bane as a villian.  It had heavy messaging that this was the last story - have they flat out said there will only be three?  Or are they going with the comic storyline where Bruce is broken and someone new will need to take up the mantle for the next movie?  Seems kind of a shame to just end at 3 since these latest versions have been done so well.

I remember when that first pic of Ledger as the Joker leaked how angry the internet was, and how many people were skeptical of the portrayal.  What did we end up with?  One of the greatest comic book performances of all time.  Nolan has yet to make a bad movie.  I have complete faith that he won't pull a Spidey 3 on us.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: DSJ™ on May 1, 2012, 09:50 AM
 The New Trailer for The Dark Knight Rises is Here! (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170447-the-new-trailer-for-the-dark-knight-rises-is-here)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2012, 10:49 AM
All you Marvel guys can have your little Avenger movie, but this is my MUST SEE summer movie.  Your team may have a Hulk, but mine has the GD Batman. :)
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Post by: BillCable on May 1, 2012, 11:10 AM
I'm waiting to see the trailer in front of Avengers.

I was a paid extra in some of the Dark Knight football stadium scenes, so I'm hoping to see myself when the movie comes out.   ;D
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: McMetal on May 1, 2012, 11:33 AM
All you Marvel guys can have your little Avenger movie, but this is my MUST SEE summer movie.  Your team may have a Hulk, but mine has the GD Batman. :)

Your Team may have a Super Hero with no actual super powers (  ;) ), but our Team has a Scarlett Johannson and she pwns Hathaway.

 ;D
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on May 1, 2012, 11:54 AM
our Team has a Scarlett Johannson and she pwns Hathaway.

 ;D

LIKE!
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Post by: CloneF13Y35 on May 1, 2012, 12:07 PM
as much as I"m totally looking forward to the Avengers' movie, next up WILL be The Dark Knight Rises.  And I agree I'd rather have ScarJo's Black Widow over AnnHath's Kittygirl any day.
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Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 1, 2012, 12:27 PM
I can't wait for The Avengers, and I will totally geek out for certain.  That said, I am confident that at the end of the summer, we'll be saying TDKR is the better movie.  Nolan has yet to disappoint.  This trailer looks amazing.

Flying tumbler????
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on May 1, 2012, 02:26 PM
Looks pretty great, definitely looking forward to this one as well.  I saw someone mention the whole Avengers and Dark Knight comparison, and said the the Dark Knight will be a great film, while Avengers will be a great movie.  Meaning, there might be more to the Dark Knight, while Avengers will be a whole lot of fun.  I'm more of a Marvel guy overall, but like DC as well (particularly Batman), and personally I'm excited for both (and Spidey!).  It often turns into a whole Marvel vs DC thing, but I'm just a fan of superheroes in general.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on May 1, 2012, 06:08 PM
The trailer for Batman does look amazing but it looks really depressing and slow compared to the Avengers. My five year old watched both trailers and was more pumped about the Avengers over Batman even though he loves Batman. The movie just isn't his kind of Batman. The Avengers is tailor made for a kid.  Too bad they are both rated PG-13 so he doesn't get to see either one.
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Post by: P-Siddy on May 1, 2012, 06:11 PM
I wouldn't kick either Ann or Scarlett out of my bed...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nicklab on May 1, 2012, 06:27 PM
Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises are very likely going to be two completely different animals.  The Batman series has largely been a character study of Bruce Wayne/Batman by director/writer Christopher Nolan.  And the new film seems like a further development in that story that's been established by Nolan. 

I just don't see how that's a reasonable comparison with Avengers which is the next story in a series of some 6 preceding films (with 5 directors) that developed the characters that we will see come together in this story.  The whole concept of bringing together these characters that can carry a movie on their own into this kind of format makes it a unique experience.

I get the feeling that I'll probably enjoy them both.  I think both movies have some great casts.  But I think I'll also appreciate the differences in the style of the stories.  Different does not necessarily mean better or worse.
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Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 1, 2012, 08:08 PM
I agree with you 100% Nick. Just like when Iron Man and The Dark Kinght were compared the summer they came out, I think these two films will be. I think they will both be great, but both very different from one another. 
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on May 1, 2012, 10:34 PM
All you Marvel guys can have your little Avenger movie, but this is my MUST SEE summer movie.  Your team may have a Hulk, but mine has the GD Batman. :)

LITTLE Avengers Movie?  DC had a 30 year headstart on Marvel movies and still can't compete.  I like Batman, but another Dark Knight flick is like getting another Iron Man movie.  Great in it's own right, but not really on the same playing field as The Avengers.  When DC gets their act together with Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Superman, and yet another Batman franchise, and can bring them all together in The Justice League, then you'll understand what this means to the Marvel guys.   ;)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Phrubruh on May 1, 2012, 11:47 PM
A Justice League vs. Legion of Doom movie would be the mother of all comic book movies!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jayson on May 2, 2012, 12:41 AM
Meanwhile....

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060817143703/marvel_dc/images/5/5c/Hall_of_Doom.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on May 2, 2012, 08:02 AM
I always loved Black Manta.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on May 2, 2012, 08:11 AM
Same here.  Funny, that base kinda looks like Darth Vader to me...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on May 2, 2012, 10:44 AM
I agree with you 100% Nick. Just like when Iron Man and The Dark Kinght were compared the summer they came out, I think these two films will be. I think they will both be great, but both very different from one another.

I agree with ya. I remember thinking how much I enjoyed both Iron Man and The Dark Knight; Both were very well done movies, good story, characters etc. I remember thinking IronMan was a more 'fun' movie since it wasn't as dark but that TDK was the better of the two. But I'll eventually burn a hole in both dvd's  as well as stop what I'm doing/watching when I see either one on tv.
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Post by: BillCable on May 2, 2012, 11:18 AM
(http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2012/0502/avengers.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Hemish on May 2, 2012, 07:41 PM
LOL thanks for that
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: evenflow on July 20, 2012, 06:34 AM
Just got out of Batman, better than I thought it would be. I thought it was somewhat predictable though. So overall, enjoyable but no where as good as the first 2.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: McMetal on July 20, 2012, 08:49 AM
Old school comic guy here with no knowledge whatsoever of who the new bad guy is:

Why does he look NOTHING like the character on the cover of the graphic novel? That thing on the cover is so ripped it would have to be CGI in a movie.

Is there some backstory there or could they just not find anyone that huge who could actually act?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iFett on July 20, 2012, 09:18 AM
12 dead 50 injured.....no one hear about this?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 20, 2012, 09:32 AM
I'm sure everyone has.  They just chose not to discuss it here.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 20, 2012, 09:51 AM
I'm going to see it this afternoon but definitely saddened by that news, we have enough real world problems so when people do something for fun some other distraught/deranged idiot has to ruin it for everyone else. 
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Post by: Phrubruh on July 20, 2012, 10:02 AM
OMG! :o
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Post by: JediJman on July 20, 2012, 10:05 AM
Wow - I hadn't heard about this.  Here's the E! article.  Mike, I get your earlier post now.   ;)

http://www.eonline.com/news/331806/the-dark-knight-rises-horror-gunman-kills-12-injures-38-at-colorado-screening
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: McMetal on July 20, 2012, 11:45 AM
I don't understand why you would go to all the trouble of rigging your apartment with sophisticated explosive devices, and then TELL the cops about it after you get arrested. What was the point in the first place? He only wanted it to explode for robbers?

Sick, sad world.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on July 20, 2012, 12:34 PM
I don't understand why you would go to all the trouble of rigging your apartment with sophisticated explosive devices, and then TELL the cops about it after you get arrested. What was the point in the first place? He only wanted it to explode for robbers?

Sick, sad world.

Maybe he had enough kills for one day.  Telling the cops or not telling them doesn't make him sound any more sane.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Diddly on July 20, 2012, 12:56 PM
RE the movie, I loved it. Just as good as TDK, although I recommend brushing up on your Batman Begins knowledge before seeing it, as there are tons of flashbacks.

People keep wanting to compare it to Avengers and while I personally preferred TDKR more, it's really had to compare the two since they're both completely different movies.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on July 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
I thought TDKR was a hot mess. I felt like I came in the middle and missed a bunch of stuff, wondering who all these new characters were that were suddenly key to the story.  Too little Batman in the movie as well.  It sort of felt like Spider-Man three at times, too many villains so other than Bane, some seemed to get the short stick.  Too much time on JGL's character....but I won't discuss my problem with this because it's spoilery.

There were flashes of brilliance but so few and far between I left the movie still wondering if I actually liked it or not.  I'm still not sure.  And, yes, there were a lot of flashbacks, all of which I  understood because I watched the previous two movies within the last 3 weeks or so.

I didn't compare it to The Avengers, I compared it to the first two movies and I don't think it stands up.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 20, 2012, 02:53 PM
Glad to hear that having my wife sit down with me and watch Batman Begins and The Dark Knight with me is going to pay off. While I remember those movies, I'm sure she wouldn't have so I would have been had to play 20 questions with her throughout TDKR.

Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BrentS on July 20, 2012, 03:27 PM
I pulled out my Batman Begins disk to watch again.  I don't have a DVD copy of TDK so I may just have to play the memory game on that one!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iFett on July 20, 2012, 04:00 PM
Ugh...my copy is lost in a pile of boxes and I never even really watched the entire first movie so really no point in seeing TDKR until I watch that one again.  Would like to find it actually so I can upgrade to the color blu at Best Buy for $5 but oh well..
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on July 20, 2012, 04:50 PM
Ugh...my copy is lost in a pile of boxes and I never even really watched the entire first movie so really no point in seeing TDKR until I watch that one again.  Would like to find it actually so I can upgrade to the color blu at Best Buy for $5 but oh well..

What is the Best Buy upgrade?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iFett on July 20, 2012, 05:11 PM
You bring in any DVD with case and slip and they'll give you a $5 off coupon good for any blu disc.  They have Batman Begins and TDK and some other blus on sale for $10 this week so if you bring in an old disc you can get a bluray disc for $5.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2012, 06:57 PM
I saw it at midnight, and considering what happened in Colorado, I now have a slightly different impression of the movie than when I walked out. I thought it was a fantastic movie and great bookend for the trilogy. It was a little slow in parts, but it was a needed contrast to the nihilistic theme of it, and to counter Nolan's signature twist(s) at the end. There were a few instances where it was tough to make out the dialogue (esp. Bane) due to the ever present score, but it wasn't bad. While this isn't the most "fun" superhero movie you can watch, say as compared to the Avengers, or Iron Man, this one is the most "real" and is it far more relatable considering the current state of the country/economy post 911. If you don't have goosebumps for the last 15-20 min. when there appears there is no hope for Gotham or humanity you are dead inside.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MattCBR on July 20, 2012, 07:32 PM
Just think how many people could have been saved if just one person had a permit to carry and shot the ****er in Colorado before he even got a shot off... just like the case of the 71 year old permit carrying man shot back at those fools that tried to rob the internet cafe' in Florida last week...

I guess the "guns are banned here" sign on the theater didn't work:(

An armed society is a polite society;)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 20, 2012, 09:10 PM
both Batman Begins (fx) and The Dark Knight (tnt) are on tv tonight. I totally enjoyed the dark knight rises. I went in with my expectations in check, knowing it might be better than TDK, just as good or not as good. I would say it is even with TDK, but that's after countless viewings of it; once I see this several more times, I'll be better able to list it. I was happily surprised by ann hathaway's performance as selina kyle - she's never called 'catwoman'. It was subtle, sexy, strong all rolled into one with a dose of vulnerability. Bane was better than I expected too but even after all this time, there were still a few places where I couldn't understand a thing he said. But the overall story arc of the movie plus how it ties into the previous movies worked very nicely. As far as batman toys goes, man I want to get 'the bat' because it is one awesome vehicle!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 20, 2012, 11:49 PM
I saw it.  Enjoyed some parts.  Really, REALLY loathed other parts.  I hated just about everything from when Bane takes over the city through the end. 

Gonna delve into some spoilers here...

All the scenes chasing the bomb around the city were beyond ludicrous.  What irritated me the most was the timer on the bomb, as it made NO SENSE.  Not the physics of it, which were questionable but hell I can live with that level of disbelief.  You want to time when the "instability" of a fusion reactor reaches critical down to the second over a 5 month span?  Dumb, but forgivable.  But the way they counted down just didn't make sense.  "We have nine minutes... let's force them to drive towards the reactor!"  And what?  Let's say the villains cooperate and drive down into the SEALED OFF UNDERGROUND BUNKER and park next to the reactor.  Let's say they rode down the slow-ass freight elevator.  Even under the absolute most IDEAL scenario that the bomb gets where you need to get it... THEN WHAT?  Is there an industrial crane on the truck?  No.  And last I checked Batman didn't have super strength.  And Morgan Freeman is like 90... he can't dead-life a half-ton bomb.  And then who's going to hook it up afterwards?  Umpa-Lumpas?  Even if they had FOUR HOURS there was no way they'd get the bomb into that reactor, much less nine freakin' minutes.  So their goal from the start was laughable.

So then with 90 seconds left, what do you do?  Hook it up to a helicopter.  And it flies off like 10 miles over the bay.  By my quick, very brain-tired calculations, that's traveling at 400 miles per hour.  From a dead stop in a powered-down helicopter.  A freakin' rocket ship can't travel 10 miles from a dead stop in 90 seconds.  God, the bad, bad physics just made my brain hurt.  If you want the tension of a count-down to be effective, it must be credible.  Here, it was not.

Other problems I had - the whole point of The Dark Knight, a film I very nearly loved, was that the citizens of Gotham when faced with certain death would make the moral choice.  In TDKR, as soon as martial law is instated (and the island was sealed off... AGAIN), the citizens devolve into a rabid mob.  Kangaroo courts to kill anyone they were jealous of.  Rioting.  Panic.  And eventually everyone hunkers down in their homes and gives up.  This was the same city where prison inmates chose death over blowing up the other boat??!!

I'll note in those sections I did like the very strong anti-socialist political message.  Though I felt he might have gone a bit overboard portraying the have-nots as really selfish, jealous degenerates.

So it betrayed the film I liked, and it defied basic math in a maddening way.  Two strikes.  There were probably four other strikes through the last half of the movie. 

Three of them involve some Don't read if you haven't seen the film SUPER SPOILERS...

I knew the chick was the bad girl pretty much from the first time she was on screen.  I didn't know she was Talia... didn't connect that dot... but I knew she was the one with the trigger who would betray Batman.  Lazy.  Obvious.  Painful.

When Batman was flying off with the bomb, I kinda rolled my eyes with the "hero sacrifices himself" ending.  I bought into it.  It sucked.  Alfred crying... very moving.  It was predictable, but I could respect it.  Sucks to go out on a low note, but sometimes that's the best way to tell a story.  And then they turn it around and reveal it was all fake.   Instead of feeling elation the hero survived, I felt like "you bastards... you put me through all of that just to wimp out?"  On top of that, Batman quits?  To live the good life in paradise with Catwoman?  No more duty to his city? (granted they did turn out to be a bunch of ungrateful, cowardly, murderous thugs...)  He just abandons his life's mission?  Retires?  Really pissed me off.

The "Robin" reveal... not horrible... just lame.  And he's going to become Robin without Batman?  Guess they had to hang a sequel onto something...

So yeah... not real happy with the movie.  I liked Bane well enough.  The action that wasn't ruined by bad clock management was decent.  Good to know you can heal a dislocated vertebrate by hanging from a rope and getting punched in the back a few times.

Gha... I should just stop typing... all I'm doing is pissing myself off more.  I really disliked Batman Begins for similar reasons, and I think this movie is cut from the same mold.  Seems like Nolan may have made his own Original Trilogy.  Innovative first film whose innovations outshine the other weak elements.  Brilliant second film.  Mostly bad final film.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Sprry75 on July 21, 2012, 12:23 AM
When Batman was flying off with the bomb, I kinda rolled my eyes with the "hero sacrifices himself" ending.  I bought into it.  It sucked.  Alfred crying... very moving.  It was predictable, but I could respect it.  Sucks to go out on a low note, but sometimes that's the best way to tell a story.  And then they turn it around and reveal it was all fake.   Instead of feeling elation the hero survived, I felt like "you bastards... you put me through all of that just to wimp out?"  On top of that, Batman quits?  To live the good life in paradise with Catwoman?  No more duty to his city? (granted they did turn out to be a bunch of ungrateful, cowardly, murderous thugs...)  He just abandons his life's mission?  Retires?  Really pissed me off.

The "Robin" reveal... not horrible... just lame.  And he's going to become Robin without Batman?  Guess they had to hang a sequel onto something...

Good points on the timing, and I didn't think about the devolution into anarchy of Gothamites being so different from the way they acted in TDK...

But regarding the ending, I took it less as Batman's retirement and more as maybe a little vacation.  Robin's going to get **** in the Batcave all cleaned up, and in a couple month's Batman will be back.  Something like that makes it a little more palatable.

I knew the Miranda chick would turn out to be Talia for some reason (mostly all the pro-environmental crap she talked about in the early scenes), though I didn't see her being quite the full on villain the way she was.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2012, 12:33 AM
Waiting to go see it for a week or two...  Pittsburgh only crows this much about anything when it's sports related, and so there's no way I'm going to overcrowded theaters and dealing with BatNerds (what kind of loser obsesses over a film franchise!  ::)).

Seriously I'll wait this out...  The kids want to go though, so we'll wind up going at some point.  Gonna sit and watch the first two this weekend with everyone, hopefully, and so they're kinda caught up on what's what, and who's who.  They keep coming to me asking questions like I'm a Batman afficionado...  I need to introduce them to Jim and let him just explain all this stuff.

Jimmy Fallon's pardody of the trailer with Pee Wee Herman voice-over was funny though.  I wonder if P.W. liked it?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Sprry75 on July 21, 2012, 12:45 AM
One other thing that bugged me was how quickly Bruce **** on Alfred over the Rachel letter, and how Alfred let him. Pretty out of character for both of them.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 21, 2012, 10:27 AM
Waiting to go see it for a week or two...  Pittsburgh only crows this much about anything when it's sports related, and so there's no way I'm going to overcrowded theaters and dealing with BatNerds (what kind of loser obsesses over a film franchise!  ::)).

Seriously I'll wait this out...  The kids want to go though, so we'll wind up going at some point.  Gonna sit and watch the first two this weekend with everyone, hopefully, and so they're kinda caught up on what's what, and who's who.  They keep coming to me asking questions like I'm a Batman afficionado...  I need to introduce them to Jim and let him just explain all this stuff.

Jimmy Fallon's pardody of the trailer with Pee Wee Herman voice-over was funny though.  I wonder if P.W. liked it?

yeah my son wanted see it after seeing the trailer when we saw Avengers in May and while out of town he went with his cousin to the midnight show. He said he loved it, which I'm glad because he hadn't seen the other two movies. I'm sure he'll have lots a questions when he comes home and since I'm kind of a Batman aficionado (loser who obsesses overs a movie franchise lol) I'm sure I can convert him to the Dark (knight) Side!
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 21, 2012, 11:14 AM
I saw TDKR last night and I thought it was really good.

There are so many things that Super Hero Movies ask you to suspend disbelief on, so all of the timing issues, Bruce fixing his back, etc... are forgivable to me.

This wasn't supposed to be an episode of 24 where ever minute of the movie accounted for a minute in the lives of the characters.

I went into the movie thinking it was going to suck - and I was pleasantly surprised to find it as good as The Dark Knight. It was definitely a worthy sequel to that movie and a great way to end this trilogy.

I am really surprised that everyone is just willing to "walk away" at this point though. Seems to me like there could easily be a fourth and still keep with the "end of the Batman saga" because now Batman is no longer a man alone.

** SPOILERS **

I was out with family at dinner before the movie and being the only comic-book/sci-fi geek in the group, of course people asked me about it, what I heard, what I thought might happen. I told them all that Miranda was going to be Talia - it made the most sense. What I didn't call 100% right was that I thought that near the end, Blake would dress up as Batman or in armor similar to Batman Beyond (no open area for his mouth). But oh well.

For me the biggest twist was who the kid was that made it out of the pit, then I remembered the reports of the original child actress  hired to play young Talia dropped out cause her mom (or whomever) didn't want her to have to shave her head - which fits, a little girl, with hair like a boy, can easily be mistaken for a young boy.

I guess I'm sentimental, but my favorite scene was when Gordon says to Batman, "I never really cared who was under the mask" and then after making a quip, Bruce brought it all back to the scene where Gordon wrapped Thomas Wayne's coat around young Bruce the night his parents were killed. And as The Bat took off, Gordon realized that Bruce Wayne was Batman - that was a nice way to sort of "end" their relationship over the three movies. It's also nice to see little scenes and things like from Batman Begins have a pay-off in the third movie.



So like I said, I hope there is more, I hope they decide to do more, there's still room for more to be done. But if they don't, it was a really great trilogy of movies...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: speedermike on July 21, 2012, 11:16 AM
HOW THE HELL DID HE GET FROM THE EAST BACK INTO GOTHAM?

I actually enjoyed the movie a lot, but that plot hole just floored me.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 21, 2012, 11:19 AM
Maybe Superman flew him there.  Somebody needed to be there to lift the nuclear bomb back into the reactor when they got it back...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Force Guy on July 21, 2012, 04:35 PM
I'll go against the grain and be blunt: as a whole, I thought it sucked.  Seriously.  Too many parts that simply defied fundamental logic (as has been stated).  It grated on my nerves that most of Bane's dialogue was unintelligible.  It gets a solid D- in my book. 
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on July 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
I'm actually happy I'm not the only one that had so many problems with it.  I figured I was going to be one of the only ones talking about how badly I thought it fell down while everyone else was praising its genius.  I felt throughout the movie that I was trying to catch up and as if I'd somehow missed 30 minutes from the beginning where they'd actually explained all the stuff I had questions about...but they didn't.

Spoilerish stuff below:

Quite a few of the problems Bill had with it I did also.  I didn't have as big of a problem with the final flight, but the redirecting of the truck and things like that, yeah, weak.

I accidently heard about the Miranda thing and it panned out, but the little kid, that I was surprised at.  I thought through most of the movie that maybe what was theorized before the movie was wrong and Bane really was the kid.  Loved the Liam Neeson cameo, that was a huge surprise.

Also didn't care for how Wayne just showed up back in the city, finds the one person that he really needs to help him and then takes on the bad guys.  I could have taken the healing part in the cave if it hadn't been piled on top of a limping, cane using Wayne at the start when it appeared the only thing that helped him back into the cowl was some fancy prosthetic device for his knee...and now he's healed his back and climbs out of a pit, which requires a huge physical leap on knees a 20 year veteran football lineman doesn't suffer from?  Whatever.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt getting so much screen time had me believing that he'd end up in the cowl at some point but I see where they went with it at the end.  But, even assuming there will be another Batman movie after this one, without Bale and Nolan, does anyone think that WB will bring JGL back for some role?  And what will that role be?  Robin?  Nightwing?  The new Batman?  I don't really get the time they spent establishing him when I doubt that they'll really continue to build the franchise on him either as an actor or as a character.

I will say that I definitely want to see it again.  I want to see if, on second viewing, did I somehow miss little things that helped hold the movie together or was I right after the first viewing and they really weren't there making the movie as disjointed as I think it is.  I thought the idea of the story was solid, but I felt there was too much extra in there that they got away from the heart of it.

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Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 22, 2012, 11:18 AM
I thought it was good overall.  It had a lot of parallels with The Dark Knight Returns comic...so it kind of made the ending make sense.  They left it open for more, but I hope that this is it for this incarnation of Batman.

SPOILER ALERT





I think they did set up the batwing being able to get the bomb far enough away...they did have it outrunning missiles afterall.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 22, 2012, 01:57 PM
The world speed record for a helicopter is 250MPH.  And I assume that aircraft wasn't fitted with armor or weaponry.   ;)

At world record speed, the farthest Batman could have flow in 90 seconds is 6.25 miles.  At least half the island of Gotham would still be in the initial blast radius.  The rest would burn.  And that's TOP SPEED, not accounting for lifting off from a dead stop in a powered-down aircraft dragging a half-ton (minimum) nuclear bomb.

The timing simply does not work out.  Not even remotely close.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: DSJ™ on July 22, 2012, 03:54 PM
The world speed record for a helicopter is 250MPH.  And I assume that aircraft wasn't fitted with armor or weaponry.   ;)

Errrrr...... a tad faster...  ;)

 Sikorsky X2: 299.2mph  (http://gizmodo.com/5659576/watch-the-sikorsky-x2-breaking-the-worlds-helicopter-speed-record)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jayson on July 22, 2012, 04:30 PM
What if the nuke detonated underwater? Wouldn't that diminish the blast radius? It probably cause one hell of a tsunami.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MattCBR on July 22, 2012, 04:46 PM
The Tumblers are bad ass... in the fact they are actual running vehicles... obviously the real versions would be worthless in the real world.

The rear end and tires weigh over a ton alone. There are some good videos on You-tube about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKAx2VCpdLI&feature=related
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 22, 2012, 07:32 PM
Errrrr...... a tad faster...  ;)

 Sikorsky X2: 299.2mph  (http://gizmodo.com/5659576/watch-the-sikorsky-x2-breaking-the-worlds-helicopter-speed-record)

I was going off Wikipedia.

My point is - the aircraft coulda been the Concorde, it wasn't getting 10 miles off-short in 90 seconds from a dead stop.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rob on July 22, 2012, 08:11 PM
At world record speed, the farthest Batman could have flow in 90 seconds is 6.25 miles.  At least half the island of Gotham would still be in the initial blast radius. 

I thought they went out of their way to say the bomb had a 6 mile blast radius during the movie?  Do I remember that wrong?

Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jayson on July 22, 2012, 10:33 PM
That is correct, they mentioned the 6 mi blast radius.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 22, 2012, 11:05 PM
The island (assuming it's similar to Manhattan) would be 10+ miles long.  Batman left from a few miles inland based on the panning shots.  You can't argue he departed 1/4 mile from the coast.  So even if he traveled 6.25 miles, he wouldn't be more than 6 miles from all points on the island... a good portion of it would be destroyed by the initial blast.  And the rest would be leveled by the resulting expansion of gases and debris.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2012, 11:54 PM
I suspect that someone has failed to suspend their disbelief.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 23, 2012, 09:39 AM
There's a suspension of disbelief threshold that this movie crashed through.  Like I said, I could tolerate the bomb countdown, to the second, of an unstable fusion reactor.  I could tolerate the pretend vehicles and weapons.  But when they not only bend but shatter basic physics... that's where you lose me.  People may as well have been walking on the ceiling for as badly as they botched things with this movie.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iFett on July 23, 2012, 10:55 AM
I ended up seeing it on Saturday.....kept eyeing the emergency exit doors though (seriously)  Some things didn't make sense, but whatever.  Glad they left it open at the end for whoever to start it back up again.  The first two movies were on later that day on Spike or TNT so ended up seeing the trilogy all out of order, but that was okay.

Oh - and there was a couple behind me that brought their 3year old daughter... Really? Why?  The guy kept telling her to shut the **** up throughout the movie...didn't think that was cool, but not my kid.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on July 23, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oh - and there was a couple behind me that brought their 3year old daughter... Really? Why?  The guy kept telling her to shut the **** up throughout the movie...didn't think that was cool, but not my kid.

People are idiots.  My kids won't be seeing movies like this until they are weill into the teens, and even then it won't be @ the theater.  The public wants to blame video games on desensitizing kids today...how about 3 year olds watching crap like this?  I swear, crap like that should be reported to social services.  That's a serious lapse in parental judgement.

As for the movie itself, I'm net seeing it until Friday, but somewhat dispmayed by the intial reports on here.  At the end of the day, it's just an action flick and shouldn't be taken too seriously.  That said, I'm will Bill in getting frustrated with movies that don't take the time to follow the laws of physics.  If there's a bomb counting down from 60 seconds, don't show me 5 minutes of material on how they stop it.  Just make the bomb count down from 5 minutes!  Or pad your estimates and make it 10 minutes.  That's just lazy and poorly thought through.  I'm fine with aliens and weird powers and technology I don't understand, but mistakes like this do really annoy me.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on July 23, 2012, 12:07 PM
If there's a bomb counting down from 60 seconds, don't show me 5 minutes of material on how they stop it.  Just make the bomb count down from 5 minutes! 

I always thought about this with the Death Star closing down on Yavin.  Why didn't George ever fix that?  (To suspend the disbelief:  the SW universe has a different concept of time.)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: name on July 23, 2012, 12:11 PM
There's a suspension of disbelief threshold that this movie crashed through.  Like I said, I could tolerate the bomb countdown, to the second, of an unstable fusion reactor.  I could tolerate the pretend vehicles and weapons.  But when they not only bend but shatter basic physics... that's where you lose me.  People may as well have been walking on the ceiling for as badly as they botched things with this movie.

Basic Batman cannon.  One of his powers is to delay the detonation of any explosive for his convenience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4v1hAnfy1I&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: speedermike on July 23, 2012, 11:27 PM
The bomb countdown didn't bother me at all.  They way I see it is that many things are happening during that 90 seconds.  All the events are taking place at the same time, therefore time, in cinematic terms, is extended.  It's one of the most amazing things about films.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MattCBR on July 23, 2012, 11:31 PM
Most action movies defy the laws of physics... lol, the show mythbusters makes a living off that.

Of all people, star wars fans shouldn't have trouble with batman. History chanel did a whole show on Star wars technology and some things are plausible like speeder bikes... and others are completely impossible like light sabers and the Death Star's Gun that can have multiple laser beams (or whatever) shoot towards each other, change direction when they meet and form one solid beam to explode an entire planet (also unlikely).

But I agree, when movies stick to the confines of reality they're usually better:)

Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on July 24, 2012, 08:11 AM
The bomb countdown didn't bother me at all.  They way I see it is that many things are happening during that 90 seconds.  All the events are taking place at the same time, therefore time, in cinematic terms, is extended.  It's one of the most amazing things about films.

I'm not talking about how real time passed in the film.  I'm talking about Batman saying "we have nine minutes left, lets direct the bomb truck towards the reactor so we can defuse it" when said task could not possibly be accomplished in 9 minutes.  And I'm talking about when there's 90 seconds on the clock, hooking it up to the Batwing and flying it more than 6 miles off the coast when no vehicle in existence could accomplish such a feat.  Nolan wanted the artificial tension generated by a countdown but failed to make that countdown credible.  That's a big failure in writing, IMO.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rob on July 24, 2012, 09:00 PM
And I'm talking about when there's 90 seconds on the clock, hooking it up to the Batwing and flying it more than 6 miles off the coast when no vehicle in existence could accomplish such a feat.  Nolan wanted the artificial tension generated by a countdown but failed to make that countdown credible.  That's a big failure in writing, IMO.

You're wasting your breath.  We don't have nuclear fusion either, but that was a core component of the movie.  So the Batwing / copter is unnaturally fast in terms of how far it went, so maybe Nolan should have had him take off at 150 seconds instead... I just don't see how it's THAT big of a leap to have to make.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2012, 09:15 PM
Saw it this weekend, and I really enjoyed it.  A nice ending to the trilogy I thought, and an exciting watch.  The last 45 minutes or so in particular were really exciting I thought, with the combination of action, music, etc.  I can understand people's problems with some of what happened, logic-wise, but I guess to me that's just part of comic book movies.  The majority of this stuff shouldn't be possible, but it just "is".  I do understand the annoyance with not just giving them more time, which would make it more plausible, that always bugs me too.

From what I've been reading online, it seems like a lot of places are saying there is a "mixed" reaction to this, but it seems to be hovering around 87-93% fresh at Rotten Tomatoes, so I'm not sure where it is coming from for sure.  I'd like to see if a couple more times, and will definitely grab the blu ray, but after first viewing I thought it was very good - but not my favorite of the trilogy.  Dark Knight is of course amazing, but Batman Begins I think often comes off very under rated, and may be my favorite of the saga in many ways.

Ok, SPOILERS.....Although I can see that he's earned it, it seems like Nolan is able to "get away" with more with a lot of fans too.  The "Robin" nod at the end was kind of cool to me, as a fan of Dick Grayson (and I thought Joseph Gordon Levitt was good int he movie), but if another director and/or franchise had done this I think people would be raining down on them.  Sort of/kind of having a Robin - but not having the traditional name and/or origin - those types of things seem to usually get the fanbase all riled up.  People don't seem to have much problem with the way Nolan did things though.  Not that I'm complaining, just something I noticed.

Although this movie just came out, I am curious to see where the Bat franchise goes from here.  They sort of left this open to continue, but pretty much everyone involved in this trilogy has been stating over and over that this is it for them, absolutely (Nolan in particular).  I know a restart (reboot?) has been mentioned before too, and I can't imagine WB letting Batman sit on the sidelines for too long (especially with only Man of Steel on the radar for the foreseeable future).  With a trilogy so strong like this one is, I don't envy the next group to come into the character.  I've said it before, but honestly my favorite Batman (and Bat universe) is probably Batman: The Animated Series.  I wouldn't mind a franchise that took the material seriously, but still allowed for things like Robin, possibly Batgirl, or even some of the more fantastic villains Batman has (Clayface, Freeze, etc.)  I don't want anything like the Batman Forever/Batman and Robin films, but something with more of a tone like B:TAS would be great too.  Of course, if Nolan for some reason changed his mind and decided to make more, that would be fine too. :)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: McMetal on July 24, 2012, 09:34 PM
Part of me wishes that they would put the Frank Miller version on the big screen, which to me is the ultimate Batman story, but then part of me hopes they won't because they would just screw it up by changing a lot of stuff. Nolan's version doesn't leave much breathing room for an even darker interpretation either.

My mon Bats don't shiv.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scott on July 24, 2012, 11:34 PM
Saw it tonight, enjoyed it.  I liked Bane a lot but the complaints about the voice were warranted

Why did Catwoman blow the cars out of the tunnel?
What was the purpose of having the orphans alerting citizens of evacuating?
How did go from broad daylight to dead of night after the stock market scene?

I don't care...it was worth the price of admission to me and these days that's all that counts.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: iFett on July 25, 2012, 10:02 AM
Saw on the news that Christian Bale was cool enough to go see the victims and their families in Aurora. 

K you can move that to the Pit if that's too political or insensitive.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: MattCBR on July 26, 2012, 12:12 AM
Saw on the news that Christian Bale was cool enough to go see the victims and their families in Aurora. 

K you can move that to the Pit if that's too political or insensitive.

I thought it was nice, I think the directors or whatever are going to give a substantial donation to the victims... I think my comment about wishing someone with a permit to carry was in the movie to shoot back was more political lol ;D
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediJman on August 2, 2012, 09:08 AM
I finally saw this on Monday and thought it was great.  Yeah, there are a few odd plot choices, but they didnt really distract from the heart of the movie.  I liked the JGL character...nice setup even if they dont make a sequel.  Nolan did a great job of wrapping up loose ends and tying a bow on the whole trilogy.

The only thing I really didnt like was that 8 years had passed in the story.  Bruce is getting pretty old...and that's a long time for things to go unresolved.  I think they could have gone with 2-3 years and made the same story.  Minor detail, but the only one that stuck in my craw.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CaptainYoda on August 3, 2012, 03:49 PM

The only thing I really didnt like was that 8 years had passed in the story.  Bruce is getting pretty old...and that's a long time for things to go unresolved.  I think they could have gone with 2-3 years and made the same story.  Minor detail, but the only one that stuck in my craw.
.

But then Bruce would not have been Batman long enough for Blake to have seen him as a kid and be as old as he was.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on August 3, 2012, 04:51 PM
I saw this today.  I thought it was great.  Bane's voice was not what I expect.  I thought it'd be edgier, more grit to it than the refined one he had... which is still cool.  I liked Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.  I was spoiled a bit about the movie, so maybe I'll have to take my wife to see it and see if she can figure out that Talia was the mastermind behind it all.  I thought it was apparent she was more than what she claimed to be.  Bane was more braun, so there had to be the brain behind him.  I think I missed some of the action by looking at the background and recognizing places in the city.  There was a quick flash of the Upper East Side's shoreline and I'm pretty sure my apartment building is in it.  I loved the Scarecrow cameo.  It makes me wonder what the Joker's role would have been if Heath Ledger hadn't died.  As for getting the bomb out of the city, the one gripe I have is that Batman, Gordon and Catwoman are all listening to Talia's revenge story while the countdown keeps going.  Why should they care why she did it?  I know drama, etc.  It is also interesting that Gotham = Manhattan, yet when Batman takes the bomb to the southeast, he'd be going over Queens and Long Island, but it looks like they erased out L.I. to make the bay (of course it could be glare effect for the camera).
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Sprry75 on August 3, 2012, 07:05 PM
I always thought Gotham=Chicago?
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on August 3, 2012, 08:30 PM
No, it's Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: BillCable on August 3, 2012, 08:30 PM
Metropolis = Chicago
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: JediMoses on August 4, 2012, 01:17 AM
Lots of it was filmed in Pittsburgh too.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jeff on August 4, 2012, 01:40 AM
I have always stuck with the Atlas of the DCU (http://ifanboy.com/articles/the-secret-geography-of-the-dc-universe-a-really-big-map/) version for my DCU geography.  It puts Gotham on the Jersey Coast and Metropolis in Delaware (follow the link for a map).

Of course, now that everything has been ret-conned with DCnU52, I suppose they could be anywhere now...
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on August 4, 2012, 09:30 AM
Well, I was just going with the fact that the movie was filmed in Manhattan... plus there are a lot of places called Gotham here (though I know the term is used in other cities as well).
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on August 4, 2012, 11:03 AM
I know they filmed in both Chicago and Pittsburgh, but they digitally alter the cityscapes anyway. But I agree, in a 'real world' I always imagined Gotham was either in Jersey or NY; Metropolis always seemed to be NYC's twin.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nicklab on August 5, 2012, 03:22 AM
Nolan's Batman trilogy definitely calls on multiple cities to stand in as Gotham.  In the first film and the second, it largely seemed to be Chicago.  And you can totally spot a lot of distinctive Chicago landmarks:  bridges over the Chicago river.  Buildings that are an indelible part of that skyline.  The elevated train and the roads underneath them.  And even the fire escapes / back stairs like those on Jim Gordon's apartment are something you see a lot in Chicago buildings.  It's interesting that Nolan decided to change things up after making Chicago stand in for Gotham as he did.  But seeing how the third act of The Dark Knight Rises transpired, Gotham clearly had to be an island city in order for that plot device to be carried out.  In that respect, Chicago just doesn't work.

The third film seems to be much more of an amalgam.  Chicago seems to have fallen by the wayside in lieu of Pittsburgh and New York.  Most of the bridges, skyline and riverfront are totally NYC.  The aerials even show 1 World Trade Center which is still under construction.  Lower Manhattan is part of the location for the Stock Exchange heist.  And the establishing shot that shows Wayne Manor sitting on the cliff across the river from Gotham is clearly set on New Jersey's Palisades cliffs near the George Washington Bridge.

The neighborhood scenes look much more like Pittsburgh.  Obviously, Heinz field is in there, too.  And some of downtown Pittsburgh seems to be the location for the police chasing Batman on the Batpod.


As for the movie?  I thought it was a good final act in the trilogy.  Granted, I'm coming from a place where I didn't have much of a history or connection with Batman comics.  When it came to comics, I was far more into reading Marvel titles.  I think that Nolan was interested in a character arc for Bruce Wayne that had a clear beginning, middle and end.  And I think that part of the story arc was that NOBODY, in the real world, could continue with such an obsession to be a vigilante like Batman indefinitely.  Not even a billionaire like Bruce Wayne.

I like the fact that we hadn't seen the last of the League of Shadows.  The League certainly seemed larger than just Ra's Al Ghul and the henchmen that were brought to Gotham in Batman Begins.  Tying Bane and his partner to the League presented a viable threat to Bruce and Batman since they know who he is, and his alter ego couldn't protect him or his loved ones the way he might have intended.

As for the end of the film?  I don't think it's worth getting into the physics/timeline of flying a bomb far enough offshore to get it to a safe distance.  I was more tied up in the fact that Nolan had established a real sense of jeopardy for Batman.  That, and the fact that for a while the audience really seemed to think that he had made the ultimate sacrifice in order to save the city.  It was not a happy ending in any sense of the word.  And perhaps that's why not everyone is onboard with this final chapter in the trilogy.  But I have to respect Christopher Nolan for bringing us a more complicated and dark interpretation of the Batman character, and treating the audience like adults.

As for Joseph Gordon Levitt's character?  I really thought that they were working towards him taking on the Robin role.  But the end of the movie changed that for me when he found the cave.  I almost have to wonder if Warner Brothers put some serious pressure on Nolan to give them some sort of sequel option they could use if they wanted to continue on wiht the Batman franchise given the continuity that he had established.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rob on August 5, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nolan's Batman trilogy definitely calls on multiple cities to stand in as Gotham.  In the first film and the second, it largely seemed to be Chicago.  And you can totally spot a lot of distinctive Chicago landmarks:  bridges over the Chicago river.  Buildings that are an indelible part of that skyline.  The elevated train and the roads underneath them.  And even the fire escapes / back stairs like those on Jim Gordon's apartment are something you see a lot in Chicago buildings.  It's interesting that Nolan decided to change things up after making Chicago stand in for Gotham as he did.  But seeing how the third act of The Dark Knight Rises transpired, Gotham clearly had to be an island city in order for that plot device to be carried out.  In that respect, Chicago just doesn't work.

The third film seems to be much more of an amalgam.  Chicago seems to have fallen by the wayside in lieu of Pittsburgh and New York.  Most of the bridges, skyline and riverfront are totally NYC.  The aerials even show 1 World Trade Center which is still under construction.  Lower Manhattan is part of the location for the Stock Exchange heist.  And the establishing shot that shows Wayne Manor sitting on the cliff across the river from Gotham is clearly set on New Jersey's Palisades cliffs near the George Washington Bridge.


Well, yeah... because they shot the first two in Chicago, and they shot the third one in Pittsburgh and New York.

Quite frankly, one of my few complaints about Dark Knight Rises was that it was so obviously New York freaking City.  The most iconic place in the country.  You can see the shape of the island, the Empire State Building... Saks... it seemed... lazy.  None of it felt like Gotham.  Hell, Ben Rothlisberger and Hines Ward were on the football team.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on August 5, 2012, 05:02 PM
Ben Rothlisberger and Hines Ward were on the football team.

Well, it is Gotham and having a rapist on the team made it legit.  ;)  :-*
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nicklab on August 5, 2012, 05:05 PM

Quite frankly, one of my few complaints about Dark Knight Rises was that it was so obviously New York freaking City.  The most iconic place in the country.  You can see the shape of the island, the Empire State Building... Saks... it seemed... lazy. 

Yeah, the Empire State Building stands out.  But that Saks was not the one in NYC.  Despite the name, Saks is a chain.

There are a lot of city street shots that could have been in a number of northern US cities that have high rise buildings.  I think a good deal of those may have been shot in Pittsburgh, because there were lots of street scenes that were totally unfamiliar to me as something from NYC.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2012, 05:49 PM
A large majority of shots that weren't broad shots were in Pittsburgh as I understand it.  The orphanage was in Pittsburgh.  Just about any underground shot was in Pittsburgh.  The "exile" bridge was teh Ft. Pitt bridge and was digitally altered.  I'm pretty sure the bridge the people were trying to escape on was the Ft Pitt as well.  I saw some of the Allegheny and Mon bridges as well.  I saw the Mon Wharf.  The Saks 5th was ours downtown which is closed now, but the sign was still there.

The blown holes in the ground for when the police were trapped and stuff was Pittsburgh as well.  The big police/thug fight was all filmed at the CMU campus.

I could go on.  I'm sure Cable and Jim could probably go on far more than I can though.

Our local (Blue Harvester on here) had a paid role with wardrobe at the orphanage...  Cable and our other Bill (stormtrooper213 on here) were at Heinz Field which was blue blazing hot when they filmed that despite the winterscape.

Our mayor was the kicker for the other team and a lot of the Rogues are notable Steelers obviosly plus Cowher came back in for that.

I was gonna try to go down for the call for criminal looking people and stuff, but I didn't feel like trying to adjust my schedule and then commute for peanuts.  :-\  Woulda been fun I'm sure.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on August 5, 2012, 06:19 PM
I thought the 'exile' bridge was the Queensboro since it had the cable car along side it (that runs from Manhattan to Roosevelt Island).
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Nicklab on August 5, 2012, 06:21 PM
The wide shots of the bridge that was left intact were of NYC's Queensboro Bridge, otherwise known as the 59th Street Bridge.  I was surprised that this particular bridge would play a prominent role in the movie since it was also featured in a pretty big action sequence in the first Spiderman movie.

I thought the 'exile' bridge was the Queensboro since it had the cable car along side it (that runs from Manhattan to Roosevelt Island).

I wasn't sure about that one.  I mean, who knows a bridge by the footings at the water?  I for one wasn't sure that the "exile bridge" was the same bridge that was left intact.  From what I could tell Gotham had somewhere between 6 and 8 bridges.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2012, 06:40 PM
I thought the 'exile' bridge was the Queensboro since it had the cable car along side it (that runs from Manhattan to Roosevelt Island).

I didn't recall a cable car in the shot...  From what I'd recalled of the scene of the exiles though I thought that was the downtown side under the Ft. Pitt, but I could be wrong...  I don't recall the scene well enough to remember a cable car so I missed something for sure.  I'm sure locals are going to be anxious to pick apart all kinds of stuff with it.  I know the one tunnel was an area downtown called the Bathtub.  Some of the chase shots were on the Mon Wharf but made to look longer.  It was pretty cool to look at and know what you're seeing but see it altered to look longer or wider than it actually is.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: P-Siddy on August 5, 2012, 06:40 PM
Er, sorry... I goofed the 'exile' one.  Yeah, I meant the 'escape' bridge where Blake was.  You can see the cables when he talks to the other cops.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2012, 06:49 PM
I'm forgetting the scene...  maybe close up they used the NYC one?  The distance shots it REALLY looked like the Ft. Pitt to me, but maybe they're also very similar.  I don't recall them closing the Ft Pitt to film anything but they took a ton of aerial shots over the city.

A lot of set shooting was done here too I guess.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: DSJ™ on August 5, 2012, 07:08 PM
Filming locations for The Dark Knight Rises (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1345836/locations)
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Rob on August 5, 2012, 08:31 PM
Yeah, the Empire State Building stands out.  But that Saks was not the one in NYC.  Despite the name, Saks is a chain.

I know, but it's a chain that's name is partially rooted in a New York Avenue - it's a New York staple.  When they drive by that signage it doesn't make you think Gotham City, it makes you think United States... New York... product placement.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Jesse James on August 6, 2012, 02:05 AM
By Dale's link then I'd say at least the close-ups are the Queensboro Bridge, if not the aerial shots as well.
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: Scockery on August 6, 2012, 01:05 PM
I saw it yesterday. I preferred to wait for crowds and hype to die down.

Good. Not quite excellent. I felt the two villains' deaths weren't satisfying enough. If you have people with evil schemes, it's more fun to let them live long enough to see their plans fail.

There was totally a missed opportunity for a "straw man" joke during Crane's judgement of Gordon. "So, the Scarecrow makes us the straw men."

I think Gordon was dumb for thinking the truth of Dent's death should be revealled. Dent wasn't evil at heart, just flawed. Batman took the blame...he offered to take the blame. 

That also makes Wayne's seclusion one big dumb guilt trip. 
Title: Re: Batman - The Dark Knight Rises
Post by: efranks on January 2, 2013, 12:07 AM
I finally watched this movie again the other day.  I think on second viewing I picked up a lot of things I missed when seeing it at the theater.  It actually helped me enjoy most of it more than I originally did, but I still think the end is completely messed up.  And I'm still baffled about the time spend to build up JGL's part when we'll probably never see him again.

Eh.  As a trilogy, it's a solid outting, much better than a lot of other franchises have managed (eg Spider-Man, X-Men).  So, I take back some of the bashing I handed it, but not all.

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