The Acolyte (Disney+)

[Matt_Fury]

Not surprised.  This show was hated before it even aired.

[Rob]

I didn’t hate it until after it aired.  I thought it was mostly unwatchable.  I let my Disney membership lapse after four episodes and wasn’t in any hurry to extend it to catch the rest.  I’ll watch it when there’s something else worth subscribing for…

But honestly good riddance.  I’d rather the budget go towards stuff that’s a higher caliber than this.

[Dave]

But honestly good riddance.  I’d rather the budget go towards stuff that’s a higher caliber than this.

In my heart I want all of the Star Wars stories to succeed, but some are just really not that good, including The Acolyte.  I'm okay with the cancellation and also hope that they can find better ideas than another season of this.

[Jeff]

I'm a bit bummed about a cancellation because I would have liked to see where they went with this.  I guess I'm in the minority on that though.

I guess maybe if the show had been set more from Qimir's point of view - showing him recruiting an acolyte, setting her against Jedi and then slowly revealing why she hated these particular jedi (because of a misunderstanding over something that happened on her home planet), slowly revealing Qimir's boss and setting up a S2 where Qimir and his acolyte face off against other Apprentice candidates, etc. 

There's a lot of potential there but people get so caught up in the force witches, the twin birth/creation, and all the other things they felt "broke" canon that once again the loud whiney voices drowned out the voice of people who were willing to give it a chance and grow into something.  I guess though when a tv show costs $165million you can't really wait for it to grow into something...

[Rob]

I read yesterday that the show had a bigger budget than Dune 2. 

[Dave]

While I'm good with the cancellation I kinda hope the story can get wrapped up via comics/novels or maybe even a short animated bit (e.g. Tales of the Jedi/Empire) as I don't like the loose ends.

[Jedi Idej]

This makes the 3rd live-action Disney SW series that wasn't renewed for a second season, presumably because the ratings weren't there. I wonder if that will re-shape budgets  or thematic parameters for new productions.

[Dave]

What are the other ones?

Was BoBF ever supposed to be more than one season?  I haven't heard anything on Ahsoka but I thought they had hoped to do another season.

[Jeff]

Was BoBF ever supposed to be more than one season?  I haven't heard anything on Ahsoka but I thought they had hoped to do another season.

I think BOBF was a we'll do one season and see what happens (either more TBOBF or just fold him back into TM).  Kenobi I think was always designed as a limited series.  D23 confirmed a second season of Ahsoka is "in development" but based on LFL record lately, I'm not considering that a sure thing until they start actually shooting.

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The ratings numbers are hard to find/confirm, but it is rumored to go something like this -
(views per episode)
TM S2 - 29.9mil
TM S3 - 24.8mil
Kenobi - 19.1mil
TBOBF - 14.9mil
Ahsoka - 13mil
Andor - 9.9mil
Acolyte - 9.3mil

So Andor, which most "fans" seem to say is "the best" D+ show was actually the lowest watched series until The Acolyte came along.  Andor cost $250mil for 12 episodes; Acolyte seems to be about $180mil for 8 episodes.  Seems like they cost about the same to make so I guess it's lucky for us that Andor was scripted/designed from the start as a two-season show or it might not have gotten a Season 2 either.

[McMetal]

What are the other ones?

Was BoBF ever supposed to be more than one season?  I haven't heard anything on Ahsoka but I thought they had hoped to do another season.

It stated definitively in that article Rob posted that Ahsoka has already been renewed for Season Two. Which I’m happy about mostly because I like the characters even though I did not care for some of the choices the writers made.

Relieved Acolyte won’t be back though, I rarely use the expression “insulted my intelligence” but it really applies here. Rob summed it up best I think.

Not sure people are going to love Skeleton Crew either but maybe it will turn out to be a pleasant surprise.

[Nicklab]

It's genuinely disappointing to see this happen.  But the toxicity from segments of the "fan" community really hurt this series before the first episode dropped on Disney+.  A lot of people were intent on hating it before they ever saw the show, and they made their feelings abundantly clear to anyone that would listen, and even those that weren't interested in their hot takes.I do not like seeing Star Wars fail.  And I don't like seeing anyone cheer for Star Wars to fail.  I think it's harmful to the franchise and it keeps new fans from embracing the Galaxy Far, Far Away.  Because why would they want any part of the a$$holes who actively campaign against almost every new show or movie that Lucasfilm produces?

I think the series got more and more interesting as it went along.  It showed how the Jedi Order had morphed from something like a monastic order into a festering segment of the Galactic Republic.  And it showed an increased sense of diversity in practitioners of the Force.  Qimir / the Stranger helped turn the Sith from two-dimensional characters into something more complex and nuanced.  How did they get there?  And we saw that to a degree with Osha and Mae as well.  Now we lost the opportunity to see that develop more deeply than we already have.

[Muftak]

I watched the first episode of the Acolyte when it dropped, but I did not opt to watch the second one even though it was also available. I wasn't captured by the first one, it felt amateurish and hollow somehow ( it turned out I was in the midst of a heart attack at the time, so perhaps I was...distracted?)

Once I took care of all that, I never came back to the show. Like I said it didn't hook me with the first one, and even though I am a lifelong Star Wars and SW toy fan, these days it has been my stance that they need to pursue me, not the other way around. If they can't entice me with the "entertainment" or make it fun and easy to purchase their products, I am just as happy to ignore it. It was the first live action SW TV show on Disney+ I didn't watch all the way through. (I tried Resistance and Bad Batch, which were both also a first episode try and pass.)

Looking forward, I hope more Star Wars projects are launched as self-contained things. My one big letdown with the Ahsoka show last year was how unresolved it ended, and from what I hear the Acolyte had the same kind of "ending." Leaving the story unfinished is just more salt in the wound for the fans that did engage. Mando Season 3, as much as I disliked it, had an ending even if it opened the door for more adventures. Resolving things is a necessary part of storytelling.

[Matt_Fury]

I wasn't captured by the first one, it felt amateurish and hollow somehow ( it turned out I was in the midst of a heart attack at the time, so perhaps I was...distracted?)

******* A dude??  You doing ok?

[Muftak]

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******* A dude??  You doing ok?

Yes, thanks, much better these days. It wasn't an event as much as a slow build up. The doctor who fixed me up said it looked like it had been going on for a week or more, and I knew I felt bad but I just kept pushing through, until the goddamned Acolyte.

 No I am just kidding, the show didn't do it. It wasn't until I spent the next day out with my sons that I really noticed I was slowing down and out of energy...then I took myself to the ER to get checked out. We're all getting older, here -- keep an eye on yourself!

[Ryan]

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******* A dude??  You doing ok?

Yes, thanks, much better these days. It wasn't an event as much as a slow build up. The doctor who fixed me up said it looked like it had been going on for a week or more, and I knew I felt bad but I just kept pushing through, until the goddamned Acolyte.

 No I am just kidding, the show didn't do it. It wasn't until I spent the next day out with my sons that I really noticed I was slowing down and out of energy...then I took myself to the ER to get checked out. We're all getting older, here -- keep an eye on yourself!

Woah man. That's really scary. Glad to hear that you thought to go get yourself checked out after noticing something was off and that everything was okay, considering. Wishing you the best in your recovery.