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Title: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 9, 2011, 08:16 PM
Here is a picture of the upcoming Dagobah Landding Luke Skywalker over at Sandtroopers.com

http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/index.php?topic=14241.msg267690#msg267690

I love the cardback!
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: EpicGon on January 9, 2011, 08:23 PM
Excellent rendition of Luke pilot. Looks a bit taller than tlc snowspeeder pilot, the face seems to nail Mark Hamill likeness.
A definitely must have for the collection.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Diddly on January 9, 2011, 09:25 PM
Huh, I thought the exact opposite. Looks monkey-armed, and although it's hard to see, looks like they're using the 06 Vintage X-Wing Pilot Luke headsculpt rather than the superior Bespin Luke headsculpt from the ESB wave. Hopefully it's because of the angle.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on January 9, 2011, 09:33 PM
Looks ok, but once again hasbro is doubleing up with a figure thats already on the pegs. Is there not already a pilot Luke out there in the Legends line? It doesn't really make sense to have another one, they really need to get a new assortment of Legends out I think.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jayson on January 9, 2011, 10:09 PM
Looks ok, but once again hasbro is doubleing up with a figure thats already on the pegs. Is there not already a pilot Luke out there in the Legends line? It doesn't really make sense to have another one, they really need to get a new assortment of Legends out I think.

Yes, but by the time this figure hit pegs, there will probably be a new assortment of Legends out there so this probably would be "competing" against the Snowspeeder version.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 9, 2011, 10:14 PM
I welcome this one but the angle does make his arms look a little long. Not sure if it's the shot but I like the figure overall. Guess I can retire my custom one.

I cannot wait to see the card back to see what figures are next!
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: JediJman on January 9, 2011, 10:21 PM
Looks good thus far.  I really like the vintage card art work on this one.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jayson on January 9, 2011, 10:22 PM
It'll probably show the other rumor figures from this wave

- Clone Trooper
- AT-RT Driver
- General Lando
- Weequay Skiff Master
- Fi Ek Sirch
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 9, 2011, 11:42 PM
Too clean.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: speedermike on January 9, 2011, 11:58 PM
I think the arms look long because of the perspective. Look how time the boots look.

Yeah, it looks too clean.  But the saber looks white also.  Maybe this is a packaging test of some sort.

I've been wanting this one for a long time, and this is the sort of retooling/parts upgrade that I totally believe in.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 10, 2011, 12:35 AM
Adding a dirt was is a piece of cake so of all the deco to skimp out on I am cool with that. I am really digging this the more I see it. I would not mind a new General Lando the old one is really dated. At least the Lando Skiff still looks good aesthetically (not the head but it's covered). I agree with the General attire 3.0 first.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2011, 02:16 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011TVC_ESBLukeDagobahPilotCarded01_Full.jpg)

I like it, but the arms look possibly a tad long.  Could be the picture though so either way I think it's a neat slightly different costume variation, kind of like Hoth Hangar Han...  Sure he's only in this outfit specifically for a brief moment, but I'll take it.

I hate the non-worn decoes on Luke's helmets though.  Hands down they've never done that helmet's deco justice since the Titanium figure's.  It should really be a mess and all Hasbro's current ones are sparkly clean.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 10, 2011, 08:03 AM
pretty boring imo
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 10, 2011, 09:55 AM
I'm kind of with you. It's just Snowspeeder Luke without the gloves. Could think of a hundred other figures to do first.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: CHEWIE on January 10, 2011, 12:03 PM
I know I've done my share of Rebel pilot bashing the past couple years, but I say bring this one on!  It's got more variety than simple head swaps due to the new arms (which do look long, hopefully it's just the angle) and should look good in our Dagobah scenes.  Plus I like the idea of more pilots without gloves for dioramas, maybe working on their ships and whatnot.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Keonobi on January 10, 2011, 12:14 PM
The arms look long, but I agree it looks like its just the angle they are positioned at.  Luke's right hand is almost touching the light saber, which is a considerable distance from Luke's chest.  I'm thinking they'll end up coloring the lightsaber, but the clear one is kind of cool; even if its inaccurate...
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jayson on January 10, 2011, 12:35 PM
I think the lightsaber is molded similarly to how the saber for TFU Shaak Ti was handled - very transparent blue.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: McMetal on January 10, 2011, 12:54 PM
How did this get past Tunghori?

Can we get unannounced TCW figures from China now too? Where do I sign up?
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: jedipurge on January 10, 2011, 01:02 PM
what're the odds of H reusing the arms for Ponda/Walrus man?
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jayson on January 10, 2011, 01:11 PM
what're the odds of H reusing the arms for Ponda/Walrus man?

Slim to none... they love to retool parts where they have a suitable mold in their inventory.  ::) :P
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Brian on January 10, 2011, 02:10 PM
Aside from the possible arm issue, I sort of like this figure as well.  We know Hasbro is looking for "new" versions of the big names (along the lines of Wave 1's Hoth Hangar Han), and as far as that goes, this is a pretty good choice.  That being said, I still hope we get an all-new Hoth Luke sometime in the next couple years here too (or maybe even a new Dagobah Luke, as neat as the OTC version was I'd take a more articulated one too).
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2011, 04:23 PM
A thought on the arms...

Look at the source image and where they line to the bottom of his jacket hanging down below the belt...

Now look at the figure's arms where they hang below the bottom of the jacket.

Those arms are definitely long.  If people had gripes on Anakin from the ROTS wave over the same issue, I cannot imagine they won't have the same thoughts on this figure.  I wonder if the same sculptor did it?
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: SnTrooper on January 10, 2011, 06:58 PM
Snowspeeder Luke has the same problem with long arms. When I heard that this figure was rumored I hoped that they would fix the problem since they would have to sculpt new arms. Obviously they didn't fix it.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2011, 08:36 PM
I know I've done my share of Rebel pilot bashing the past couple years, but I say bring this one on!  It's got more variety than simple head swaps due to the new arms (which do look long, hopefully it's just the angle) and should look good in our Dagobah scenes.  Plus I like the idea of more pilots without gloves for dioramas, maybe working on their ships and whatnot.

By the way, I had almost the same thought on using the forearms to do pilot figures that aren't ready for flight, standing around working on their ships with the technicians (god willing we ever get the technicians for Hoth).
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Ben on January 11, 2011, 01:36 AM
I don't think I'll need a loose one, but that will look great MOC on my wall.  :)
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: EpicGon on January 11, 2011, 12:07 PM
Quote
looks like they're using the 06 Vintage X-Wing Pilot Luke headsculpt rather than the superior Bespin Luke headsculpt from the ESB wave

MMM, it seems as this head has no extreme pointy chin like 06 Luke Pilotīs, and the hairdress is similar to tvc Bespin Luke.

Probably the perspective of the photo is upside down, so they can still show another pics

His legs are no completely from tlc snowspeeder pilot Luke, they are in some way derivated from tvc Bespin Luke: the holster, the thighs with pokets on pants. This is what make us hope this figure would be a bit taller than tlc snowspeeder Luke.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 11, 2011, 07:27 PM
I actually like this figure! Yeah, at first glad it does look dull - but I do like the headsculpt, it looks a lot like the TVC Bespin Luke sculpt. I'm sure there's a lot of recycled parts here.
Title: Re: Dagobah Landing Luke Skywalker
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 11, 2011, 08:41 PM
Well there were some people that wanted the Snowspeeder Luke without the skull cap.  So, here ya go!
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Scott on January 12, 2011, 10:40 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/VaderF/NewLuke_3.jpg)

Other figure pics

Wave 6

Luke Skywalker
Clone Trooper
AT-RT Driver
General Lando
Weequay Skiff Master
Fi Ek Sirch
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 12, 2011, 10:43 AM
awesome!  I cant see them cuz the image is blocked here at work but now I have another reason I can't wait to get home from work!   :P
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: McMetal on January 12, 2011, 10:47 AM
awesome!  I cant see them cuz the image is blocked here at work but now I have another reason I can't wait to get home from work!   :P

Ditto
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 12, 2011, 11:06 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/VaderF/NewLuke_3.jpg)

Other figure pics

Wave 6

Luke Skywalker
Clone Trooper
AT-RT Driver
General Lando
Weequay Skiff Master
Fi Ek Sirch


Awesome. I'll get Lando again, plus a few of the Jedi, and a few of the Weequay.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Brian on January 12, 2011, 11:19 AM
Not a bad lineup, at least from what we can see.  I'm pretty psyched for General Lando and definitely the Weequay, and the rest of the lineup looks good too.  I like Fi-Ek Sirch and am fairly excited about the Luke figure too, unless the arms are too wonky.  The clones may be improvements as well, although I just have a tough time getting too psyched for clonetrooper any more.  They all look nice though.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: speedermike on January 12, 2011, 12:16 PM
These look great!!

And I really like the mixed wave.  It's much more interesting to me.  And, honestly, if that was an all AOTC line, I might skip the clones.  But mixed up like that, I want them. Don't know why.

I assume the AT-RT pilot is very articulated, because we never got one that was SA.  Am I correct?
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Scott on January 12, 2011, 12:22 PM
awesome!  I cant see them cuz the image is blocked here at work but now I have another reason I can't wait to get home from work!   :P

Ditto
Here you go boyos

(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/wv6.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: JediJman on January 12, 2011, 01:29 PM
Thank goodness we have more Clones coming our way!   ::)  Outside of those two, the wave looks terrific!
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Scockery on January 12, 2011, 02:23 PM
These look great!!

And I really like the mixed wave.  It's much more interesting to me.  And, honestly, if that was an all AOTC line, I might skip the clones.  But mixed up like that, I want them. Don't know why.

I assume the AT-RT pilot is very articulated, because we never got one that was SA.  Am I correct?

The 2005 carded one was SA, other than having just a swivel waist instead of a ball joint.

However, it was very difficult to get that figure to move its hips into a sitting position, meaning as a driver it sucked. It was possible to get them to sit, but the figure's hips would be loose/ruined...at least in my experience. 

Also, the 2005 figure's right hand was nearly worthless; it was made very wide, possibly to hold  a big spring action weapon. But the result was too wide to hold much of anything.

So it's a deserved upgrade, if coming years too late.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 12, 2011, 02:50 PM
I am really digging this wave, even the clones! I am so happy to get a new Lando & Nikto!
Hasbro can we just skip wave 5 and go straight to this wave?
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 12, 2011, 03:55 PM
Really like what I am seeing here too.  Probably pass on the plain clone - maybe the Luke - but the rest look really good.  The AT-RT Driver's helmet looks big - but in a good way.  Same for the plain clone I guess.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Nicklab on January 12, 2011, 06:00 PM
It's an interesting wave.  There are a couple of completely new figures in there including a new take on a core character, some army builders and a couple of much needed updates.  I'm on the fence about the AOTC Clone, but the AT-RT Driver is welcome in my book.  The Weequay is the star of the wave (for me at least).  But I'm almost as excited to get Fi-Ek Sirch as an SA Jedi at long last.  The AOTC era figure was so preposed it was almost useless, so this figure will be like a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: EpicGon on January 12, 2011, 06:30 PM
I will only buy the Ot characters from this wave. Hope in the near future Hasbro give us a new classic stormie, using the new sculpt they asigned to those PT clones.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2011, 07:20 PM
awesome!  I cant see them cuz the image is blocked here at work but now I have another reason I can't wait to get home from work!   :P

Ditto
Here you go boyos

(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/wv6.jpg)

I have the proverbial "toy erection".

That Landy's a dandy.  And I'm glad the Nikto Jedi's getting an upgrade.  Hell, I'll even get the AOTC Clone because I think it looks sharp and I like the articulation upgrade enough to buy one or two I think.  The AT-RT Driver is another one I'll pick up one or two of.  I'm happy with the ROTS figure army I have though.

Great looking figures.  Also notice how much better the Skiff Master's sleeves/shoulders look from the original prototype images.  Not shabby.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 12, 2011, 07:33 PM
Well General Lando and Skiffmaster Weequay are the two I want the most. 

The AT-RT Driver turned out really nice.  I will probably get him.   

I like how Fi turned out.  My son loves the Arena Battle.  I may buy it for him to open if he wants it. 

Eh, another generic clonetrooper, but I will probably buy it and the inevitable yellow, red, blue, and green versions.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2011, 07:39 PM
I'll probably pass on color variations...  Well, maybe "probably" is a little early to claim, but I might...  The color designations for rank went out the war's window almost immediately so I now look at them as really only important to pretty much Geonosis and maybe the first few months.

THey seemed to jump (ala Clone Wars) almost immediately to unique armor deco designations for entire legions, right away.

But I'll definitely get the plain ones.  They seemed to hang on for quite some time.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: iFett on January 12, 2011, 07:40 PM
I guess I can tolerate prequel figs on vinty cards, but that Kenner stamp has to go and doesn't really make much sense on PT figs...
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 12, 2011, 07:53 PM
I actually like the prequel figures on the vintage cards.  I do agree that the Kenner logo doesn't make sense on them to me either.  However, I guess so does Han Solo with the Echo Base jacket and Dack Ralter.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2011, 08:25 PM
To me the vinty cards are just a throw back to vintage days and that includes the Kenner Logo.  I'd hate seeing the logo show up sometimes and not others.  Like you said too Broem, it doesn't apply to a lot of OT figures too.

I kind of like the idea of this being how the line looked it Kenner ran it forever, never folded, and decided to keep the same look since 1978 (more or less).
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Darby on January 12, 2011, 09:30 PM
I'm not sure why the vintage look is not everywhere in the line, including Clone Wars.  To me it's iconic, and most people from my generation equate SW with this particular packaging.  It could be as recognizable as Coke or other brands which have more or less maintained their 'vintage' logos.  I also like the idea about the Kenner line being unbroken.  If the CW line were in this look, oh my God.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Diddly on January 12, 2011, 10:16 PM
Looks like a great wave. I'll get one of everything except maybe the AT-RT Driver. Despite my dislike of Hasbro's Stormtrooper/ROTS Clone ball-joint legs, I'll pick up several of the AOTC Clone since I recently noticed my Clones from those Entertainment Earth 4 packs are getting pretty yellow, leaving me with like 2 "good" AOTC Clones.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: jono on January 13, 2011, 05:06 AM
Really great wave -i even like the clones! -probably be about July till these show up in Blighty though!
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: speedermike on January 13, 2011, 09:02 AM
I'm not sure why the vintage look is not everywhere in the line, including Clone Wars.  To me it's iconic, and most people from my generation equate SW with this particular packaging.  It could be as recognizable as Coke or other brands which have more or less maintained their 'vintage' logos.  I also like the idea about the Kenner line being unbroken.  If the CW line were in this look, oh my God.

I agree.  The CW cards are all different images anyway (meaning not a generic cardback) , so why not go all the way?

The imagry from the show is great and the cards would be very appealing.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: McMetal on January 13, 2011, 10:18 AM
If the CW line were in this look, oh my God.

Where's the vomiting emoticon when you need it?   :-X

I loves the true vintage stuff, I loves the TCW stuff. But I don't want some weird mash-up of the two.

Think how messed up all those pegs would get!
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 13, 2011, 08:21 PM
Totally bummed about the Lando. Nice to get the upgrade, but the card back is very disappointing.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 13, 2011, 08:24 PM
Stoked for the Jedi dude! HUGE step-up from that pathetic Saga rendition!

Does anyone know why the back of the card shows a picture of Luke (with the date 1980 right next to it)? Has this figure been made in the Vintage days? Or is it that Hasbro is just finding a way to keep the line look fresh...?
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 16, 2011, 11:46 AM
Totally bummed about the Lando. Nice to get the upgrade, but the card back is very disappointing.

It's a bit dull but at least it shows him with the cape.  I think a Falcon shot would not have it?  But I know what you mean.  I think for the wave the Skiffmaster looks the best.  Then again I've been wanting this figure for a long time.  I'm just hyped to finally be getting it. 
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: CorranHorn on January 16, 2011, 12:06 PM
Totally bummed about the Lando. Nice to get the upgrade, but the card back is very disappointing.

It's a bit dull but at least it shows him with the cape.  I think a Falcon shot would not have it?  But I know what you mean.  I think for the wave the Skiffmaster looks the best.  Then again I've been wanting this figure for a long time.  I'm just hyped to finally be getting it. 

The photo used for the Lando cardback is the same one used for the original vintage POTF figure...
(http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/POTF_Lando_General-tn.jpg)

This will be the first POTF figure in the TVC line, nicely done.

Not a fan of these mixed movie waves, the PT figures make this somewhat of a yawn wave.
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 16, 2011, 02:28 PM
I wonder when we'll start seeing the EU integrated into these waves...
Title: Re: Vintage Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on January 16, 2011, 04:23 PM


Where's the vomiting emoticon when you need it?   :-X

I loves the true vintage stuff, I loves the TCW stuff. But I don't want some weird mash-up of the two.

Think how messed up all those pegs would get!

This
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jeff on January 25, 2011, 10:20 PM
New Vintage Collection Wave 6 Carded (http://www.jedinews.co.uk/news/news.aspx?newsID=4396) photos from UK Toy Fair.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: EpicGon on January 25, 2011, 11:28 PM
Awesome wave! I only regret it wasnīt entirely OT, but all the characters depictions deserve credit.

Luke Dagobah Landing (the best of the entire wave) looks as the sculptors have corrected the straps of the support life unit plate, wider than tlc snowspeeder pilot, and the figure is a bit taller than taht version.

I donīt collect Pt, so I have only references by photos and some displays on stores:
the white clone misses the gray application on shoes soles, that would have made him stunning. (I think his evolution would inspire a new stormie sculpt)

Lando seems taller than ever, nice paint job and disposition of the cape.
Gree with removable helmet looks colorful, and as hasbro has corrected the proportion of his limbs.
Nikto Jedi evolves fantastically on  head sculpt.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on January 26, 2011, 01:05 AM
Gree with removable helmet looks colorful, and as hasbro has corrected the proportion of his limbs.

Not Gree.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 26, 2011, 01:09 AM
Agreed, I really love the whole wave and hope the helmet is not removable on the EP2. I will actually army build this one and may start to retire the EE one slowly. I really dig the AT-RT driver too, I am ditching the 4 I have this new one looks killer.

I also noticed they updated his hands on the Nitko to have 3 fingers. It appears they made him one of the other Nikto subspecies which to me is pretty cool. The horns are different too so I do believe it's all intentional, very General Die from the CW's. Great upgrade, There is not one figure I dislike here, good rebound from W5.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 26, 2011, 08:55 AM
Nice. Hope there's a few more to reveal at NYTF.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 26, 2011, 12:25 PM
Nice. Hope there's a few more to reveal at NYTF.

Han Bespin please, it's been long enough. I will buy 10 of this figure at a minimum!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 26, 2011, 07:53 PM
Dang, the Nikto Jedi sculpt is phenomenal! For a sculpt based off what is presumably a mask, the facial sculpt has a lot of expression to it.

I usually skip clones without a second's hesitation, but that AOTC clone sculpt looks either all-new or at least partially new, and the helmet doesn't look removable. I'm definitely picking this guy up.

Lando's a meh, he does look impressive, though, but I have to say that Dagobah Luke is a win, I like it a lot more than the '10 LC Hoth Luke.

And has anyone else noticed how cool Nikto Jedi's cloak is?! :o
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 26, 2011, 08:35 PM
So I looked through these thoroughly today...

-The AT-RT Driver is surprisingly cool.  I won't retire mine, they're good sculpts, however I will buy 2 of these I'm guessing.  Now if they'd put THIS guy out on the Clone Wars AT-RT, then I'd probably buy quite a few of that.

-The AOTC Trooper is pretty slick looking.  I plan to nab some of him, though again I'll certainly not retire the original SA figure by any means.  That sculpt has been great, still is great...  this one is certainly nice looking though, and I do believe I see ball-socket wrists there.  Nice.  It's maybe the best new point of articulation they've made.

-The Nikto Jedi is cool, and I love the softgoods.  they're very worn looking.  The figure is great overall though, so I have every intent of picking up a couple of this guy.

-Dagobah Landing Luke...  Again, very cool looking.  I see no height difference however, just comparing him in the bubble to the Clones.  The Clones should be average sized, Luke shorter...  It appears to me he's got a good bit of space above him compared to the Clones, in their respective bubbles.  I think he'll be very similar in every way to the last Pilot Luke.

One ****** thing though...  That helmet, still not dirty.  I wish Hasbro would go the extra mile to give him a black wash over his pilot helmet so it looks more accurate.

-Lando...  I compared him as well since there seemed to be questions on him being tall, and again he seems to be average or a hair shorter than average compared to the Clones.  I'm loving the Lando General Pilot the most though.  removable cape, SA, looks to be another removable shoulder holster...  Greatness top to bottom so far.  I wish the cape had a thread for the "tie" though, rather than the wide band.  That looks odd but I'll certainly live with it.

-Skiffmaster Weequay...  Very cool.  Love all the details like the blonde braids, the poofy quilted tunic...  He comes with a pike he doesn't have IIRC, and so that's pretty slick.  Hasbro knocked out a figure that's been demanded for years and years.  People have wanted the Skiffmaster since I started collecting Vintage when I was 15 and I recall guys customizing him because they wanted that figure so bad.  It's amazing it took this many years (decades) for him to get a figure.  And it only makes me want the original Weequay resculpted that much more, haha.

Overall, this is one fine looking wave...  Can't wait to pick them up.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Siths Herald on January 26, 2011, 10:03 PM
Jesse, some of your comments are assuming the bubbles are all the same size.  I haven't really paid that much attention since I open mine, but have the standardized the bubble size with this line?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2011, 01:49 AM
Pretty much yes.  The Gammie's is larger, Grievous was too I think, but average-sized human characters seem to be a pretty standard like they were back in the vinty days.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 27, 2011, 11:35 AM
I hope this wave will be released in late FEB/March. Seeing all of the production package shots for this wave it seems like it cannot be too far off. I would love to see no long hiatus this year with releases. Even if it is spaced out I would like to see at least 2-3 more waves after W5 before the summer lull.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on January 27, 2011, 11:46 AM
Well, in my area, there's not a whole lot of room for more vintage unless the retailers expand the vintage sections, so I'm not thinking that Wave 6 can be anywhere close to hitting retail...

Wal-Mart - About half the stores have room for more figures, but they only have 4-8 pegs.  Seems the stores with a lot of pegs for them are packed already with past waves.

Target - A complete joke, they ordered way too much of the first wave.  It's like Irvin Kernsher threw up ESB figures all over the place.

TRU - Plenty of room for figures, but they're not getting any in... and at $10 per figure, why buy there anyway?

For the first time in years, I'm getting closer to buying cases online again because the retail situation sucks... it took 4-5 months for the first 3 waves to really hit retail, so I don't know that we'll be seeing Waves 4, 5, and 6 all hit in a short timespan like that.  I hope that Wave 5 is a short run because it's going to cause a backlog... the wave is just bad.  But hopefully it does move decent to prevent a log jam... hopefully there's some kickbutt sales coming soon...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 27, 2011, 11:54 AM
In my area while you can still find Denger and 4-Lom but it is pretty empty here. There are less pegs than X-Mas time but there is plenty of room for figures except at TRU. They are clogged with ESB/ROTS waves at $10.99.

Chew, being a serious collector like your self I am surprised that you do not order by the case. It's worth it and you can always return the crappy repacks when you purchase other figures for customs/army builders. That said, when you find an AT-AT for $13 it puts a very BMF dent in my argument ;).
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Brian on January 27, 2011, 02:22 PM
Our area has been pretty slow lately as well.  Wal-Mart is packed full, but the majority of them are Sandtroopers and/or the ROTS Clonetrooper.  Other than that it is just a smattering of the ESB/ROTS waves, with maybe a couple from the ROTJ wave.  Our closest Target has exactly two figures on each of four pegs, and I'm pretty sure the figures there are ROTS Anakin, 4-LOM (four of them), Endor Soldier, Ackbar, and Sandtrooper.  I was actually surprised to see the Endor Rebel and Ackbar sit there that long.  TRU hasn't had anything since the ESB wave really, and is still sitting on some of those.

Anyways, as far as this wave goes, I think it looks pretty good as well.  I'm especially excited for the Lando, Weequay, and Fi Eck Sirch figures.  Luke looks pretty nice as well, and is a good "different" version of that character.  I still have trouble getting too excited about clonetroopers, but I'll admit that the AT-RT Driver does look pretty nice.  I had intended on passing on that one, but may grab a couple now.  Still on the fence with the AOTC trooper.  That may be my favorite "clonetrooper", but I probably have plenty of the previous version(s) so we'll have to wait and see.  They all look great, but I'm really trying to make a conscious effort to not buy figures "just because" this year.  I don't have all that much display space at this point, and unless it is a big enough improvement to retire the previous versions of figures, I really have to give it some thought.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on January 27, 2011, 02:29 PM
In my area, the ROTS Clone Troopers are everywhere in abundance... the helmets on that figure (and not just the yellowing) really killed that figure and all through St. Louis this is even a worse pegwarmer than 4-LOM. 

And I bet Hasbro doesn't even realize that if they had invested a bit to make the helmet better, this wouldn't have happened.  Instead they probably think that people are sick of clones.

Anyways, Hasbro's case assortments have really turned me away from ordering online for a while now... I haven't ordered a single case of anything since TAC... and yeah, you are right I could return the crappy repacks to Wal-Mart or something, but those are already pegwarming bad enough in my area so I just don't want to add to the backup at retail. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2011, 11:38 PM
I don't know that I'd make the claim that a new helmet would've helped that figure sell better at all really.  A specific paintjob to a specific legion maybe would've.  I think there is an "I'm cloned out" sentiment though that transcends any smaller problems the figure has with its sculpt.

The yellowing is a far bigger issue to me than the helmet, personally.  But does that deter the parent/grandparent/kid buying?

I think when you add in that this is basically, again, competing with itself on Legends cards...  Which one would the typical shopper buy then, ya know?  It was a wasted figure slot to me since I don't think people were giddy to get all white Clones back out there unless they're maybe AOTC style Clones.  I think that, plus saturation, probably were a bigger issue really.

Repaints to specific unit designations would help, but if there's Legends ROTS Clones out too, it seems like a real conflict that has hurt the line this year, as has been discussed quite a bit since August it seems, haha.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on January 28, 2011, 12:41 AM
The yellowing issue aside, I see so many rants about that helmet I think it's a legit complaint, just like the Stormtrooper rant that's circulating on various forums right now.  And it's not just the helmet's size and yellowing - that helmet tends to have bad paint applications for whatever reasons (like the visor line, when it actually IS painted, it's sometimes bleeding onto the other parts of the helmet), and the armor on it makes this guy look like he's fat.  In my eyes, this figure has so many flaws with it, it's ridiculous.  

It's obvious that having another Phase 2 clone (actually a superior version) in the Legends line was a dumb move on Hasbro's part too though.  I think they would have been much better off to use that Legends version on a vintage card, with some sort of slick weathering paint scheme like on the Evolutions clone than what we got a few years back.  And if the orange clone is produced in the same numbers as this one, I would not be surprised if it's going to have some pegwarming issues as well, but I doubt it will be quite as extreme... and that upcoming Phase I clone?  If there's still Legends versions of that design on the pegs, I still think the new vintage version will do just fine because it's a much better figure - definitely better than the Vintage Phase 2 trooper that's on pegs everywhere.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on January 28, 2011, 10:49 AM
And with that, a good comparison pic that Jayson shot:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs760.ash1/165124_499089296798_202559486798_6230992_6895994_n.jpg)

I think the new one (on the right) looks really bad compared to the old version... glad I have several of the original release of the Utapau clone.  For the premium line that vintage is supposed to be, Hasbro doesn't seem to be putting much effort into the Phase 2 clones.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Brian on January 28, 2011, 02:19 PM
Boy, seeing that comparison shot, I'd have to agree.  The new one doesn't look all that great compared to the original.  The original Utapau trooper was probably one of the rarest in our area.  I picked up the only two I ever saw, and wouldn't mind having a few more, but I don't know how much I like this new version.  We'll see I guess.  Definitely more detail in that early version, with the dings and scuffs/etc.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2011, 03:57 PM
I think the new one's helmet isn't as nice, and I think he should have a worn paintjob.  The lack of wear looks awkward.

Beyond that though, it's not a big enough difference to me to say I won't buy a couple.  I won't be stocking up though because I have over 50 of the original ROTS figure and can't justify buying another 50 to replace them.  I'll still probably pick up two, so long as the yellowing thing isn't going on.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Nicklab on January 28, 2011, 04:17 PM
Wow.  The helmet on the new 212th Clone looks pretty craptacular.

Oh well.  I can use that clone w/out the helmet for the briefing scene on the Jedi Cruiser with Obi-Wan & Cody as seen here (http://disparue.org/gallery/4/movies/starwars/3/images/starwars3_1857.jpg).


Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2011, 04:27 PM
The Saga2 one still looks the best! Saga2 had such nice deco ops on the figures and vehicles. Just look at the V-Wing and the Trade Tank. I love that 2006 figure and I would like to get 5 more to have a clean 40.

It really is amazing that the clones in the Vintage line have been such disappointing duds. Imagine if they made the White Clone with battle worn deco and a tighter helmet. It would have turned around that figure like no tomorrow. I hope the Wave 6 Clones change this trend. From the looks of it they will.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 28, 2011, 07:18 PM
The helmet on that trooper is so ugly - the eye lenses looks so oddly proportioned, and the paint job is just terrible.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 29, 2011, 07:34 AM
That clone is going to look fabulous hanging on the peg hooks at TRU for the next 3 years, covered in dust with a $12 price tag hovering above it.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darby on January 29, 2011, 12:03 PM
Wow.  That does look really bad.  I wish I had bought more of the Saga2 version.  I wish I had money then!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2011, 01:35 AM
New pic of the Skiff Master turned up...  

Folks aren't gonna like those elbows shoulders, but I don't mind them terribly.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_WeequaySkiffmasterLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_WeequaySkiffmasterLoose01_Full.jpg)
Clicky to check it out.

Like the deco...  Pretty slick figure.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 30, 2011, 08:57 AM
the elbows?

its the neck or lack there of that is bugging me in this photo.  I am thinking it is just assembled wrong because the other photos we have been shown have not looked like this.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 30, 2011, 09:23 AM
The shoulders always bothered me, but they look much better in this photo. You're right about the neck though. Have to keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darby on January 30, 2011, 11:24 AM
Yeah, he's turned around.  I am really looking forward to this guy, though.  He's been on my Most Wanted list for a long time.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on January 30, 2011, 11:50 AM
Might have to bore the head out a little to get that to sit better, but overall I like him.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on January 30, 2011, 06:37 PM
Looks really good, I ordered a couple already from tunghori.  I think a scarf of some sort will look great with it.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2011, 07:02 PM
I meant the shoulders, sorry.  They're definitely out further than the last proto image seemed to imply from UK Toy Fair. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: EpicGon on January 30, 2011, 10:38 PM
The photo does not show the neck details, hope the toy has one. This skiff master has to be considered an evolution of the weequay, so the vintage guy will be waiting for an update.

The kind of articulation: For the shape of the pants, knee joints are somekind disimulated, sometimes elbows joints diminish the pointy part of elbows, but could compensate it with more posability.

I like the colors and the way the vest, jacket is presented.

I will buy this figure.

I know, funny life is very challenging (specially for sculptors)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on February 13, 2011, 11:57 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0122.jpg)

Not loving Lando's cape but really loving the likeness of Luke...same gripe about the weathering of the helmet
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2011, 02:55 AM
The helmet weathering really kills me because they kind of did a decent recreation (not just a black wash but really some scuffing damage) to the Titanium Hoth Luke that was out and somewhat limited in number. 

I like that Lando's cape is cloth, I really do, but that goofy elastic-looking neck bit is looking worse every time I see it.  Love the cape's cloth choice, just not that last bit.  That picture highlights it even more to me.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on February 14, 2011, 07:31 AM
I have been quietly waiting for General Lando for a while.  Lando in Any ROTJ costume is always welcome especially with this level of articulation.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2011, 10:51 AM
After seeing the new style of Clone body I will definitley be rebuilding my entire army to phase out the old one. It will be a long and expensive endeavor but the new body sculpt blows away the old one. I will liquidate my old troops to fund the new one. The only problem will be availability of the new trooper, I hope they offer a collectors case of just troopers to make this easier.

It's exciting to know this wave is not to far from release!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2011, 11:11 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0140.jpg)

Ugh, that is just rediculous
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2011, 11:19 AM
That Luke sculpt is amazing.  Was he a prototype or shots from tooling?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on February 14, 2011, 11:24 AM
Looks like a painted hardcopy.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on February 14, 2011, 11:37 AM
After seeing the new style of Clone body I will definitley be rebuilding my entire army to phase out the old one. It will be a long and expensive endeavor but the new body sculpt blows away the old one. I will liquidate my old troops to fund the new one. The only problem will be availability of the new trooper, I hope they offer a collectors case of just troopers to make this easier.

It's exciting to know this wave is not to far from release!

At the present time I plan to get the new clones to supplement my old clone armies, but I can easily see myself selling all my old troopers and going all out on the new ones once they're released.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on February 14, 2011, 11:52 AM
Ugh, that is just rediculous

Agreed... the cloth is good but this linkage on the outside is not good.

Couldn't be sewn on on the inside and then set over Lando's neck?


At the present time I plan to get the new clones to supplement my old clone armies, but I can easily see myself selling all my old troopers and going all out on the new ones once they're released.

Same.....
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2011, 11:56 AM
At the present time I plan to get the new clones to supplement my old clone armies, but I can easily see myself selling all my old troopers and going all out on the new ones once they're released.

For my collection I only want the best of the best. It's by choice but that is how I run my collection, it's not for everyone but that's the kind of collector that I am. When I compare the 2004 Clone to this new body there is no question in my mind that it dates it. On top of that I am a big stickler for consistency in my collection so I like matching troops.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2011, 12:26 PM
Sucker.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: speedermike on February 14, 2011, 12:52 PM
We might be able to turn the cape inside out...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2011, 12:57 PM
We might be able to turn the cape inside out...
That may work...but isn't the most accurate...

(http://www.obroa-skai.net/swreference/pix/E4-6/E6MP-LCalrissian.jpg)

Not sure why they didn't do something like the latest Dooku

(http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/nelsonrandt/Count_Dooku_Geonosis_Arena_2010_-_TLC_LOOSE.jpg=600)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2011, 01:40 PM
Sucker.

It's by choice. I only want the best representation in my collection.

In regards to Scott's post I agree that they should have used the new sculpts but based on my Industry experience there are many reasons why they use older sculpts in value sets like the BR sets. Often times once an item is produced factories will grandfather in pricing on the item in the year it was made insulating it from inflation. When changes are made, even minor deco they are subject to current price.

These sets are made for a promotional value proposition and incremental sales so I am not surprised they are reusing older decos/figures. The Tan Battle Droid can be considered new, I wish there was more of that I would have bought into these. I am glad to see the Resurgence Luke is making a comeback

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on February 14, 2011, 02:54 PM
At the present time I plan to get the new clones to supplement my old clone armies, but I can easily see myself selling all my old troopers and going all out on the new ones once they're released.

For my collection I only want the best of the best. It's by choice but that is how I run my collection, it's not for everyone but that's the kind of collector that I am. When I compare the 2004 Clone to this new body there is no question in my mind that it dates it. On top of that I am a big stickler for consistency in my collection so I like matching troops.

Oh I don't blame you for going that route, and I hope I didn't come off as hostile or judgmental. I'm sure when I get all these new troopers that look like mini-Sideshow figures I'm going to either keep them separate from the old clones or sell off a lot of the old ones. Right now I feel better telling myself that they will mix in just fine with the old ones. :P

I was pleasantly surprised to see three Clones all using the new mold. I was fully expecting the 501st Trooper to be a repaint of the TVC ROTS Clone/Utapau clone and the Fordo to be a retooled SA clone. It's nice that there will be three separate Clones using the new mold, and that they are all from different sources.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2011, 03:05 PM
Oh I don't blame you for going that route, and I hope I didn't come off as hostile or judgmental. I'm sure when I get all these new troopers that look like mini-Sideshow figures I'm going to either keep them separate from the old clones or sell off a lot of the old ones. Right now I feel better telling myself that they will mix in just fine with the old ones. :P

I was pleasantly surprised to see three Clones all using the new mold. I was fully expecting the 501st Trooper to be a repaint of the TVC ROTS Clone/Utapau clone and the Fordo to be a retooled SA clone. It's nice that there will be three separate Clones using the new mold, and that they are all from different sources.

Not at all! I hope I did not come off hostile, I am just admitting my SW collecting OCD flaw. I know how I am with my collecting so I know once I get the new Clone Trooper in hand I will want to phase out the old ones so I rather prep, plan and save to the upgrade.

As you pointed out you are seeing Hasbro use these for all of the upcoming Troops so it gives me even more incentive to change them.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2011, 04:16 PM
For me, it's nowhere near a big enough difference to sell off all my older style Clones.  I will pick up some new ones, but probably not nearly as many as I have now.  Maybe a few is all, and just go from there.  The price is too damn high.

On Lando's cape, I'm going to likely customize it...  I'll look for a thicker grey thread to use, and avoid the big band thing going on.

Of course between now and production that cape could really easily change too.  One can hope.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2011, 05:21 PM
Does anyone have a comparison pic showing the difference between the old and new clone designs?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2011, 05:22 PM
Sucker.

It's by choice. I only want the best representation in my collection.



I was just messing with you, bro!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2011, 05:35 PM
I was just messing with you, bro!

I know, I am just openly admitting my OCD with Best of the Best syndrome.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2011, 01:29 AM
Available for Pre-Order from EE! (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS97568F)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 15, 2011, 02:44 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/TF2011_StarWars_0122.jpg)

I think the highlight of this wave for me is the face sculpt for Luke.  It looks absolutely fantastic!

I'm definitely looking forward to General Lando, though as has been said, I hope to see them fix that cape. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on February 15, 2011, 07:34 AM
Does anyone have a comparison pic showing the difference between the old and new clone designs?

This is the bast showroom pic I've seen. You can see the three new clones, and the old Utapau figure to the far right. I think the new sculpt looks a lot sharper, plus it seems like here might really be a person inside that armor.

(http://banthaskull.com/images/nytf11/starwars/hasbro_047.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on February 15, 2011, 08:06 AM
Agree on the new sculpt on Clones looking like it's armour over flesh and not painted on like the 2004 sculpt does.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 15, 2011, 10:16 AM
That's why I am phasing out the old style. when you look at the new sculpt it almost makes the old sculpt look like a galactic hero.

I just ordered x2 cases of Wave 6 and x3 cases of Wave 7 from BBB. I am not surprised that the Sandtrooper and the EP3 white clone found their way back into the case mixes...ugh.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 16, 2011, 08:54 PM
I can't really tell, but does anyone notice if Fordo has ball-jointed hips and wrists? At this day and age in Hasbro's sculpting, I imagine the figure does have the updated articulation.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 16, 2011, 09:02 PM
I need to see the SA clone that started in '04 next to the new vintage AOTC clone before I know what to do.

Does anyone have a pic comparing the 2 clones?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on February 16, 2011, 09:05 PM
I can't really tell, but does anyone notice if Fordo has ball-jointed hips and wrists? At this day and age in Hasbro's sculpting, I imagine the figure does have the updated articulation.

I think he does have both.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on February 16, 2011, 10:18 PM
.

Yes, I concur.

I can't really tell, but does anyone notice if Fordo has ball-jointed hips and wrists? At this day and age in Hasbro's sculpting, I imagine the figure does have the updated articulation.

I think he does have both.

It looked like hips and wrists to me, as well. New rifles for the 501st and AOTC clone, maybe new pistols for Fordo... overall, they went all out with the new Clones. I think the only other thing Hasbro could've done to improve the clones is an alternate helmet for each clone; ROTS or Pilot helmet for the AOTC clone, and an AOTC helmet or an Appo (green visor) helmet for the 501st. Now hopefully they're not turning green when they hit the shelves...  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2011, 11:52 PM
Fordo's pistols are new, and accurate to the cartoon Clone ARC Troopers.  Very cool that they didn't just jam in the old ones.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darby on February 26, 2011, 11:16 AM
This wave is in stock over at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568f&id=HA-807301583).  There was nothing, and then there was everything all at once...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jeff on February 26, 2011, 11:46 AM
Thanks for the heads up, Darby.  I put in my order - with Target at $8.99 and gas at $3.49/gal locally, it's worth the extra $10 to just order from EE and stay caught up...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 26, 2011, 12:17 PM
I agree with Jeff - with store prices now at $9 each, it's easy to justify spending roughly $10.41 per figure. For me this is a pretty good assortment - the added bonus of Utapau Clones, Stormtrooper, Senate Guards and Rebel Commandos mean that out of my two cases I will only have the two R2-D2s and the two AOTC Obi-wan figures to find places for. Since I just bought two Obi-wans at WM, I'll probably just return them. With the R2s - I can always use him w/o the drink tray in various displays.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 26, 2011, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Darby.  I put in my order - with Target at $8.99 and gas at $3.49/gal locally, it's worth the extra $10 to just order from EE and stay caught up...

Agreed, 100%...  Just order online.  I pre-ordered so I'm hoping my card got charged since they showed in-stock.  :-\  I assume I got charged anyway, I'm not used to the pre-order thing.

Screw going through regular retailers if you can avoid it though.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2011, 08:43 AM
My order is in processing.  All the prequel junk will be available in the trading forums soon!,

So glad to save the gas and time. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on February 27, 2011, 11:52 AM
I still enjoy the toy runs, and just don't want all the extra figures... can't get past Hasbro's case assortments these days.  I they had 2 of each new figure per case, I'd be all over it.  But the carry forwards are killing me.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on February 27, 2011, 02:45 PM
My wife won't let me plunk down $100 on a case.  Otherwise I would be all over this.  I will just have to find them one by one at retail I guess. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 27, 2011, 04:11 PM
Someone on the Yakface forums (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=129&t=6086&start=90) got some loose pictures of the Weequay Sail Barge soldier. Uh, why is his head so long? I mean, if you look at one of the side pictures, you can see that his skull looks stretched out - someone on the forums compared it to the Crystal Skull aliens from Indiana Jones. Is it supposed to be like that?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2011, 04:16 PM
That's how it's suppose to be. (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=129&t=6086&start=90#p98549)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on February 27, 2011, 04:56 PM
Got my Weequay from Tunghori yesterday too and by moving the shoulders so the ball joint doesn't show, it looks a lot better than I thought it would
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 02:02 AM
I almost got a Weequay when I ordered my Yavin techs and now think I probably should've...  Ah well, live and learn I guess.

Love his poofy coat.  Quilting doesn't look particularly wise for the desert though.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 03:45 AM
As per the front page... (http://www.JediDefender.com)

New loose pics of Luke Skywalker (Dagobah Landing)...  Just in time while we wait for our cases I guess. :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011TVC_Wave7LukeDagoLandingLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011TVC_Wave7LukeDagoLandingLoose02_TN.jpg)

I'm still a little meh on the helmet, and could the saber hilt come unpainted like that?  The helmet deco really is becoming old hat though and I wish we'd see a dirty deco on a Luke helmet.  It's only been done twice!  Surprising now given how many times we've seen Luke in his X-Wing helmet over the past however many years.

Otherwise, a really neat figure...  A nice update to a familiar costume, with just enough change to make you dig it I think.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on February 28, 2011, 08:55 AM
Have one of these on it's way so will post some pix up when it does.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on February 28, 2011, 11:13 AM
I like this figure, as it uses better shoulders than this (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tsc/VTSC/01/lf.html).  That whole mold to me is just really dated, and doesn't look natural.  I wish they'd quit using it altogether... and it's part of the reason why I've had a bias against Rebel pilots for a while.

Anyways, is it me or does the new Luke look like he doesn't have articulated wrists?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on February 28, 2011, 11:24 AM
Anyways, is it me or does the new Luke look like he doesn't have articulated wrists?

My eyes could very well be playing tricks on me, but it looks like the figure has forearm articulation instead of wrist articulation. The hands look attached to the arms, but there seem to be noticeable cuts in the sleeves.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jeff on February 28, 2011, 11:55 AM
Anyways, is it me or does the new Luke look like he doesn't have articulated wrists?

My eyes could very well be playing tricks on me, but it looks like the figure has forearm articulation instead of wrist articulation.

Yeah, he has forearm articulation instead of wrists (to preserve the look of the long sleeves over the hands).  Here's a close-up from the toy fair pics that lets you see the cuts on the forearms a bit better (more noticeable on the left arm) -

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/toyfair2011/dagobah_pilot_luke.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on February 28, 2011, 02:01 PM
Yeah, he has forearm articulation instead of wrists (to preserve the look of the long sleeves over the hands).  Here's a close-up from the toy fair pics that lets you see the cuts on the forearms a bit better (more noticeable on the left arm) -

Thanks for the clarification Jeff. Not trying to be the complainer, but it's a bizarre place to add articulation. I know some Jedi figures have had sleeves over part of their hands. Granted, the sleeves were bigger due to the robes, but I'm surprised Hasbro couldn't pull that off here. It's a very petty issue, but now this Luke will have misaligned sleeves when you turn his arms.

I must say, Hasbro did do a good job of hiding the cuts. They appear to blend pretty well with the sculpted wrinkles.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on February 28, 2011, 02:43 PM
Looks to me like they did this for an easy swap with gloves on other figures (as the gloves are longer)... so to me this looks like it was a move by Hasbro not so much to preserve the actual look, but to get more use out of the mold around the elbow joint.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jeff on February 28, 2011, 03:05 PM
Well, yeah - this guy has the same torso/arms as the 2009 Snowspeeder Luke.  The cut is at the same point in the arms as that Snowspeeder Pilot figure, except instead of the glove hand, this guy has now has a "sleeve/hand" piece.

I guess I should have been clearer - he only has forearm articulation instead of wrists (to preserve the look of the long sleeves over the hands).

At Toy Fair, Hasbro said they opted to keep the articulation where it was (forearm) and use a 1-piece replacement (sleeve/hand).  They saved money (using the existing arm with just one new piece) and they said they liked the look better.

I'm just telling you what Hasbro said at Toy Fair - no one said you had to believe what they say... ;)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 04:09 PM
Yeah it makes total sense to re-use as much of the SS Luke...  I mean, they've done tons of wrists hidden in sleeves, they can, so yeah, it's obvious what the deal was here.  It's a cool figure regardless of where the wrist joints are I think.  This is like the, "Little changes you'd like to see".  This is perfect for that category because it makes an ultimately new figure.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on February 28, 2011, 04:19 PM
I'd like to have him be a lot dirtier...

(http://www.vegatransports.com.au/2002/r2d2_dagobah_luke.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 04:26 PM
I'd rebuy him for that, actually.  He's obviously real clean when he gets out of the ship, so I'd kind of like both...  Minor, but it'd be cool since it's noticeable. 

Of course, I'd be happy to see the helmet dirty on all of them.  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on February 28, 2011, 04:39 PM
I'll be getting an extra to apply a dirty wash. I'd also like Hasbro to take another crack at a Dagobah R2.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on February 28, 2011, 04:48 PM
Yeah, I am in the camp of not minding the clean look, in fact for me that almost makes him more of an army builder in a way, I think.  Because then you can swap out his head and have a group of pilots without gloves on...

And for all my pilot ranting, I really don't mind it when they make a change like this on such a great sculpt. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on February 28, 2011, 04:54 PM
Ok, is this a new head sculpt for this Luke?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 07:40 PM
I believe so, or it's the Bespin Luke's, however I don't have it handy to compare.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on February 28, 2011, 09:33 PM
I believe it is new. The Bespin one is all kinds of different.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 1, 2011, 10:57 AM
just preordered this wave at HTS

don't forget promo code HTS10 for 10% off.  Total for 6 figures came to $59.42 - so just under $10 each.  This is good for me because I need to really start using that "gas saving" type of mentality.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2011, 11:16 AM
Sweet, says they are in stock too, saves me from dealing with the extras in a case...which is also another reason why I love the BBTS Pile o Loot :-*
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: McMetal on March 1, 2011, 11:18 AM
Sweet, says they are in stock too, saves me from dealing with the extras in a case...which is also another reason why I love the BBTS Pile o Loot :-*

All the ones I see say Pre-Order?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 1, 2011, 11:38 AM
right, they are pre-order.  according to my order status the expected ship date 3/8/11, so only a week away.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Brian on March 1, 2011, 12:58 PM
Yeah, nice to see those over at HTS.  I had a set preordered at BBTS, but didn't necessarily want the clones - so this works out well.  I think the set of 6 at BBTS was like $90, and I got all the figures I wanted from this wave (and duplicates of the OT ones) for like $84 shipped - looking forward to getting these.  It is so nice not to have that huge lull in figures like we've had the past few years during this time.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 1, 2011, 03:51 PM
I'm literally not buying any of the Wave 6 figures I want on HTS right now because it comes out to like $12 shipped.

That's just too much money for this. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 1, 2011, 03:53 PM
Buying a set from BBTS makes no sense for $20 more you get another 6 figures which you can return. I have 2 of this case on order from them but I did order the max HTS would let me on the clones x2 Phase 2 and x2 AT-RT Drivers. I also grabbed another Luke because I will swap some part with the SS version to make the colors consistent and I want to use that Head on the Luke Bespin figure.

Thanks for the promo code shmashwitdaclub !
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2011, 05:13 PM
I'm literally not buying any of the Wave 6 figures I want on HTS right now because it comes out to like $12 shipped.

That's just too much money for this. 
I got 8 figures for $77 shipped (w/ the discount) that is $9.60 a figure...same as Target with Tax...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 1, 2011, 05:27 PM
I'm literally not buying any of the Wave 6 figures I want on HTS right now because it comes out to like $12 shipped.

That's just too much money for this. 
I got 8 figures for $77 shipped (w/ the discount) that is $9.60 a figure...same as Target with Tax...

I bought 5 figures and it came to $50.40, which is still cheaper than my high taxed state. Use the code and it works out great!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 1, 2011, 05:39 PM
Ugh.  I'm going to continue to try to resist.  I probably won't be able to.

Just saw the code now though, that's a little helpful.

I'm just having a mental block to buying at the new pricepoint though.  I have zero hesitation at the 6.99 level.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: iFett on March 1, 2011, 06:00 PM
I'm just having a mental block to buying at the new pricepoint though.  I have zero hesitation at the 6.99 level.

Same here.  I haven't even lifted a finger to order or grab anything "new" at these higher prices,  and so far...so good   :)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 1, 2011, 07:28 PM
I'm reluctant to get extras (I have a case on order), so I see where you're at with it Dressel...  I'm maybe going to order one or two, I don't know.  I'd rather have had an extra Lando and he's sold out, so I doubt I cave and order anything.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darby on March 1, 2011, 09:03 PM
I got one of everybody.  I go back and forth on the price, too.  I don't know.  I have no backbone, apparently.  Five or six years ago, when I had no money at all, this would not have been a debate.  I think that now that I have the money, I'm spending it.  Probably not smart though.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Rob on March 1, 2011, 09:38 PM
I missed the boat again... I'm getting sick of looking around for these and Hasbro never has enough of them at a time to make it worth ordering (that I am quick enough to get at least).

Where's the best place to buy cases from nowadays?  I used to order from Kebco a few years ago but I guess that ship has sailed.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2011, 09:54 PM
EE and BBTS are the same price at $109.99 per case...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on March 1, 2011, 10:05 PM
My case from EE shipped today  :)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 1, 2011, 11:29 PM
My case from EE shipped today  :)

I got the shipping notification on my Wave 6 cases today as well.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 1, 2011, 11:29 PM
Guess mine didn't ship yet...  Little frustrating as I put my order in for this pretty immediately after I got an email notification for it, but whatever.  I hope it ships before the weekend I guess and if not by then, then maybe I'll be a little more concerned.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on March 2, 2011, 08:28 AM
I missed the boat again... I'm getting sick of looking around for these and Hasbro never has enough of them at a time to make it worth ordering (that I am quick enough to get at least).

Where's the best place to buy cases from nowadays?  I used to order from Kebco a few years ago but I guess that ship has sailed.



EE.com is where I got mine.  Now that you have moved away, I have to do all my own Toy Runs so I order online.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Rob on March 2, 2011, 11:07 AM
Yeah, it hasn't been easier here for me either.  I've got a Target that's close by but if they don't get anything in there's not much I Can do about it... I don't get out to the burbs but once every 6 weeks or so, so Walmart is largely out of the question.  There's a Toys R Us about 10 minutes away but they never get anything new. 

I'm looking for an easy solution, without paying too much over regular retails - but the case option isn't so great for me when theres only 6 or so out of 12 that I'm in the market for. 

I wish HTS would just be more consistent with their offerings. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 2, 2011, 11:11 AM
Wave's back up.  I actually got a few.  New Marvel Universe stuff up too at $7.99 each.

EDIT:  5 minutes later.  5.  Lando, Weequay, and AT-RT driver back out of stock.  5 minutes.

That is nuts.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on March 2, 2011, 11:33 AM
I'm looking for an easy solution, without paying too much over regular retails - but the case option isn't so great for me when theres only 6 or so out of 12 that I'm in the market for. 

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 2, 2011, 12:52 PM
@Dressel - I would bet someone probably just cancelled their order and you lucked into it before someone else.

I did that about a month ago when wave 4 and 5 went up for sale.  The day before I put in an order 4 GI Joe's and an IM2 Concept Drone.  When the Star Wars came in stock I wanted to cancel my order from the previous day to save on shipping and put it all on one order but Low Light was OOS.  I called HTS, cancelled my order, and they said they couldn't guarantee that the GI Joe figures would still be in stock when I placed my new order - I told them I would roll the dice and see - I wanted the Star Wars figures more.

About a minute after I cancelled Low Light came in stock and I placed my order.  After I placed my order he was OOS again.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 4, 2011, 08:01 PM
I've been meaning to post this...showing the shoulders etc

(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/weequaymaster.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 4, 2011, 09:57 PM
I know I promised to be done with this wave, but just wanted to say - this is the best figure ever.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 5, 2011, 03:08 AM
Wow, the shoulders look a lot better compared to what we've previously seen.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on March 6, 2011, 10:47 AM
Can his arms go down to his side?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 6, 2011, 11:30 AM
Nope...unless you push the shoulders down...sort of a trade off on looks versus functionality

I think they could have sculpted the torso with the shoulder pads instead of articulating the shoulder pads which look terrible when not in the position I show above
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2011, 02:17 AM
I'm confused, but the arms CAN go down?  They look like a typical ball-joint Scott, so I wasn't sure if that's what you meant, or that they're stuck out at the side like that. 

I hope that's not the case though...  That looks...  uh...  odd.  :-\
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 7, 2011, 09:20 AM
Well yeah they can go down but then it looks like this:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_WeequaySkiffmasterLoose01_Full.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2011, 04:43 PM
Ah, ok, I get what you're saying now.  I was just a little confused.

I can deal with that look, trust me. :)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2011, 05:06 PM
I got my Wave 6 today...  :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview01.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview02.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview03.jpg)

I have to say I like every figure in the wave...  Everything's pretty solid, without many flaws.  I figured I'd just toss out a couple of initial impressions really quick before I have to take off for the evening.  Apologies for pictures, but they're about the best I can do quickly.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview04.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview05.jpg)
I figured I'd start with the AOTC style Clone resculpt...  It's pretty impressive, however I don't think you need to toss your old "SA" (which "Super articulated" is now sort of funny by comparison), but I think they'll blend well enough.  Then again I think Commtech Stormtroopers make ok filler for an Imperial army.

Anyway, the sculpt's much more crisp, sharper lines...  Much thinner though, which looks good to me, but it just makes the Clone look leaner is all. 

You get scads of articulation...  Ball-jointed wrists and hips is great, and they're very useful points of articulation.  Honestly they're more useful then the ankles at times I think. 

The helmet's removable and features a fairly younger clone underneath, who has a really nice younger looking face sculpt.  His helmet fits perfectly, no bulging or anything.

He comes with two rifles, both new sculpts (3 sculpts for both Clone weapons at this point, that's surprising). 

The paintjob is pretty good on mine, everything is where it ought to be, except they didn't paint the ankles black on my sample but the bodyglove is clearly sculpted to be visible down at the ankles, so that's slightly disappointing.

This is easily the new definition of "Super articulated" though.  And a Clone coming with all the gear you need for him is sort of a nice change since they've generally only come with the smaller blaster in the past.  Now this guy has it all.  Expect officer repaints, and probably EU decoes too if they're doing realistic style Clone Wars figures.

This figure surprised me, how much I liked it, and I'll likely buy more when I see them...  Not many at $8.99, but I will probably get a couple more if I am able, just to have some kneeling soldiers mixed into the group.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview06.jpg)

The AT-RT Pilot is really another great update...  Who knew we needed this guy done over?

The sculpt again is more crisp, and the colors are more vibrant.  Lots of deco details which aren't that common anymore.  Usually this gets the axe, but not on this guy.  The figure has a removable helmet again as well, and the headsculpt is a slightly older clone.  I think the head would swap with the AOTC Clone easily enough as well.

As a matter o factly, I just did that, and it worked perfect.  That way you can have old and young clones in both armor sets.  Reason to buy two of each at least?  Who doesn't like some variety in their Clone ages?

The figure's hips are ball-jointed now too, which allow him to ride on his namesake's vehicle just right.  He sports a removable helmet as well, and the new sculpt rifle, as well as a weapon over his shoulder which could be a rocket launcher I guess.  It's definitely a lot different to the ROTS figure's sling weapon.  Also the sling is really cool.  It's the best, most functional, most realistic sling I've seen on any figure in this scale.  It's amazing really how cool it is.

Paint aps are this figure's big surprise...  Like I say, these days Hasbro is cheap on the details, and this one got quite a bit, at least by today's standards.  No dirt, which is ok because it'll vary it a bit from my ROTS Troopers who have some mud spray on their lower bodies.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview07.jpg)

The Nikto Jedi is quite awesome... 

The sculpt is super crisp and sharp, lots of detailing in the costume like the ties on the boots and a coarse looking texture sculpted into the shirt.  The hands and face have tons of detail like scales and horns, fingernails, etc.  I particularly liked his armadillo-like plating on the top/back of his head.

The paintjob is a bit more plain on him but they did do a wash on the face and hands, painted the horns and nails, etc.  He's got the softgoods skirt too, so he's nice and poseable.

He also sports all the gear EVERY Jedi should have...  an awesome burlap looking cloth robe, a hilt that plugs into his belt, and an ignited saber as well.  Short of a little communicator like some figures have had that plugs on their belt, he's got everything Jedi need.  Another figure that's WINNING!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview08.jpg)

Dagobah Landing Luke...  Actually probably one of the less impressive figures from the wave to me.

The sculpt in general is ok, and the likeness is great because it looks a little like he has "helmet hair".  It's a long flight to Dabogah afterall.  I think a lot of this is obviously Hoth Pilot Luke, but I don't have him handy to compare what's new and what isn't.  Sometimes changes are incredibly subtle.

He sports a saber, hilt, helmet, and pistol...  Love all the gear, but would've liked seeing maybe them slip in some of his emergency equipment or something.  No matter there though.

The deco is ok, nothing too flashy, but I'm disappointed of course that the helmet is sparkling clean again.  That's like getting the wrong saber to some folks.  It's just a thing that annoys me.

I'm also a tad disappointed in the arms...  They're definitely oddly long, and noticebly so.  I think Hasbro just overestimated how long they needed to make the new forearm pieces...  It just looks a little odd.  It's not a deal breaker, happy to have such a minor costume variation, but it's still just something you'll notice.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview09.jpg)

Skiffmaster Weequay...

I was looking forward to this guy the most I think.  I've wanted him for a while, and now we've got him.  He's done really well but 2 things stuck out to me was all basically...

First the sculpt is really sharp.  It's great how they got the elongated nature of the Weequay skull...  They've missed it up till now it seems, so kudos to Hasbro on that.  The quilting in the costume's coat is really nicely done, looks thick and poofy.  I like the pants too, and how they overlap the shoes nicely.  Even the shoes have strap details on them, and the cross-draw holster rocks. 

Love the wrinkly face.  These guys have always been cool to me for some reason.  The face has tons of detail to it.

He sports a blaster for in the holster, and a pike...  Pretty standard fare for this guy, and appropriate.

Paint aps are ok...  There's more washing on him than other figures in the wave as his tunic got a wash, as did his face and hands to give it that leathery look.

The articulation is great, but I'd have actually probably been just as happy with regular "cut" shoulder joints so the look of the big sleeves from the coat was a little bit better.  I'm ok with it though, to me it looks fine enough either way and I appreciate the articulation.

The only flaw really is the skirt...  Hasbro needs to add a slit to the sides so they don't hinder the leg articulation so much.  This one is nice and flexible though, a good plastic choice was made for sure, but it does inhibit the articulation at the hips a great deal.  He's still able to do some walking/running poses.  He won't be kneeling or sitting anytime soon though.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/011Vin_Wave6Preview090.jpg)

OK, so Bespin Lando still can't disco, but obviously General Lando can!  I was surprised to see them include ball-joints at his hips, actually.  It seems like Hasbro went the extra mile there.

The headsculpt may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I thought it was ok...  The overall sculpt is fantastic though, capturing the look of the costume and all the little details like his rank tabs/chest badge, the communicator on his wrist, the wrinkles in the costume, the texture scuplted in...  It's nice.

The deco is fairly bland.  There are some small details here and there like the silver line on his belt buckle, or his badge and whatnot, but they probably could've done some extra things to spice it up a little.  It's nothing major, he's just basically less than the last two figures in the deco department.

Lando's cape is cloth, he's got an easily removable shoulder holster, and a blaster that may or may not be the same one he had with his 2004-ish figure.  If there's any gripe, it's on the "clasp" thing on the cape obviously.  Everyone's kind of said "WTF?" on that one.  A simple thick thread or grey elastic thing ala Vader capes would've sufficed and looked a lot better than a band of thick ribbon.

As noted the articulation is outstanding...  really beyond what this guy needed (but it's appreciated...  I like the hip articulation a lot these days).

I was surprised how cool Lando turned out ultimately.

That's just a little breakdown of the new guys...

On the repack front...

The only thing to report is that the 212th and Stormtrooper still have helmet discoloration going on.  Just so you'll not be shocked.  I can't say mine are horrible, but they're noticeably less white than the bodies are.

Sorry for the brevety of that...  I gotta motor here.  Hope you guys got yours today too.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scott on March 8, 2011, 08:26 PM
Cool beans Jesse...I had not noticed Luke's arms before but that sticks out like a sore thumb in your picture
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2011, 08:28 PM
Yeah I'm not going to bang my head off a wall over it or anything, but it is more noticeable than I imagined.

GI Joe guys will think along the lines of Flint/Duke figures that had the hand part of the arm that should've been shorter or whatnot.  It would've been cooler had Hasbro i think tried to redo the arms from the elbow down I guess.  I'll live though, personally.  He's just a notch lower in my opinion, as the wave goes.  If he's the worst though that says some good stuff about the wave I think.  The headsculpt's cool though.  I dig the helmet hair a lot.  This on an X-Wing Luke body would look neat I think, for when he gets out of the ship on Yavin IV. :)

BTW I do apologize for the pics.  That's just a Sony Cybershot which doesn't take close-ups well obviously.   :-\  My gf's Sony camera is much better for figure photography than mine is.  Mine was just mostly for fun and getting camera shots of models at the Where Science exhibit was near me.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2011, 09:06 PM
Here's a couple cool things I forgot...

The new Clone rifles were painted with silver details here and there, which was pretty cool I thought.  The sculpt on the new little blaster may or may not make people happy.  It's more like the original small clone blaster, but it's got a lot more detail and realism to it.  The fold-out stock is not a separated piece like the evolutions one was, so some will dislike that aspect of it.  The same with the ring on the front of the barrel.

Also, and this is the freakiest thing...  The shoulder joints?   You can't see the pins at the top.  They're pretty much completely hidden under the armor.  The armpit is sculpted so it's concave almost 360 degrees around the arm joint, so the shoulder pad can sort of recess into the armpit so the range of articulation isn't impacted.  The pin is almost completely invisible now though on the shoulder joints.

It's interesting and a little hard to explain.  Suffice it to say, it's a vast improvement on aesthetics...  No figure seems to have anything like it unless they have armor on.  Luke's ribbing on his jacket sleeves come up a great deal though, and almost cover the pin as well.  The shoulder armor of the Senate Guard is similar, but not quite the same.

It'd be interesting to see on a Stormtrooper, or other characters I think.  It seems like getting someone with a cloth shoulder to have this hidden pin sculpt is not going to be quite as easy or likely.  It'd be a clever way to do an Endor Rebel in the vest though I think.

Oh, and I'd completely buy a repaint of the Nikto guy like the Saga figure got.  It's really a nice sculpt for a Jedi who got almost no screen time at all and hasn't really been mentioned anywhere in other sources.  He makes a cool figure though for certain.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: McMetal on March 9, 2011, 09:03 AM
This Wave has been spotted in stores now too, according to JTA. (Walmart - NJ I believe)

I saw no signs at the 5 Walmarts I hit up yesterday, but hopefully soon...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 9, 2011, 12:17 PM
Cool, I got my shipment notice from BBTS this morning. Time to begin the EP2 Clone Phase out...
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on March 9, 2011, 04:16 PM
I got my shipment yesterday from EE.com, a day quicker than BBTS...and a site sponser!!!! ;)

I really like the OT figures in this case.  I know we have Stortrooper Haters because of various issues, but they are good enough for me and better than most previous versions for sure.  Honestly if I could find the volume, I would jettison the VOTC army of 50+.

The Weequay is Jabba Alien so I got him just for the skiffs.   A nice figure....

Luke Dagobah has freakishly long arms, but I have a fix for that so wait for pics.  The head sculpt will probably be the default Headsculpt for all my ESB Lukes.  Really nicely done, kinda looks like the character/actor.

General Lando is awesome.  I really wanted the previous versions of Lando General to be this good.   I can see doing some different hands and headsculpts and getting Generic Rebels for sure.  Can a new General Madine be far behind?

This was the first time I saw Prequel stuff on Vintage Cards.  It was jarring and I was slightly appalled, I was so upset actually that I tore the Senate guard off the card just to show it that it did not belong there.  Glad I did, that figure doesn't suck.

Winning.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 9, 2011, 04:34 PM
just saw on HTS that my order of 1 of each of these is now "Fully Shipped"
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 9, 2011, 05:29 PM
I got my shipment yesterday from EE.com, a day quicker than BBTS...and a site sponser!!!! ;)

Cool, but I paid $16 less for shipping for two cases. That's worth waiting a day. (Can you tell I am pro BBTS?) Thanks for the reviews I cannot wait to get these in hand! I love the pace of the releases with no drought. Keep them coming!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2011, 09:40 PM
I got the exact same shipping quote for two cases from EE that I did from BBTS actually, I just paid all of my shipping at once and my next case will just cost me $109.99 instead of all the shipping fees.  The shipping at BBTS was just applied to the two cases separately.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 9, 2011, 10:22 PM
I really like the look of the Nikto Jedi, who would have thought that it's the same guy that we got in 2002's Saga in really lame statue form?

I took a look at JTA's pictures of Luke, and wow... his arms really are long! It looks like he has gorilla arms! I thought his outfit is too neon/bright orange, but maybe that's just the color in the film. Of course, if it had been dirtied up a smidgen, it wouldn't stand out so much. It's a nice figure, though.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2011, 11:47 PM
I'd say it's pretty orange, but it's very clean.  Luke's costume in ESB is filthy, especially the coat, and especially on Dagobah...  But even on Hoth, the coat has filth and grime on it for whatever reason.  All the pilots could've used a darker shade of orange wash put over the figures overall then whiped off to show the details.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: speedermike on March 9, 2011, 11:53 PM
Wow.  These are shipping?  I haven't even seen wave 4, and only three of wave 5 one time only.  I'm sure I'll see them, but I'm a little shocked to see people 10-15 figures "ahead" of me.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2011, 12:07 AM
Yeah I got a note from a buddy of mine in Maryland tonight that he found them as well, but only a few of the wave.  That's a ton of figures in a short time, so yeah...  All the more reason to Order a Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS97568F).  Wave 6 will be back in eventually at EE, I feel sure.

Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS97568D) is already in-stock.

Wave 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS97568E) is too.

Screw hunting for any of it.

Also of note is the newest Clone Wars wave, however I've never had bad luck finding a CW figure except for the tactical droid, and I ultimately didn't care enough about him to look any harder.  :-\

I saw the new Speeder mid-size vehicle tonight at WM too, so that's out there as well of course.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: McMetal on March 10, 2011, 09:20 AM
I scored the Weequay dude and Fi-Ek Sirch last night at TRU, so they are officially hitting here in VA now as well.

I saw General Lando and Gorilla-Luke too, but those were easy passes. I did not see the AT-RT guy.

New toyz in the hizzy!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on March 10, 2011, 10:41 AM
I'm loving the new Dagobah Landing Luke despite the lack of weathering. I didn't realize how dramatic a color difference (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC44/lf26.html) there was between it and the Snowspeeder version. I glad they went that route though as it lends itself well to making a more accurate Snowspeeder flightsuit with the mis-match color of the pants and jacket.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Paul on March 10, 2011, 11:33 AM
I got my shipment yesterday from EE.com, a day quicker than BBTS...and a site sponser!!!! ;)

Cool, but I paid $16 less for shipping for two cases. That's worth waiting a day. (Can you tell I am pro BBTS?) Thanks for the reviews I cannot wait to get these in hand! I love the pace of the releases with no drought. Keep them coming!

I am a big fan of BBTS and Joel too and have been a customer since early in their game. But sponsorship has its privileges.


 
I'm loving the new Dagobah Landing Luke despite the lack of weathering. I didn't realize how dramatic a color difference (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC44/lf26.html) there was between it and the Snowspeeder version. I glad they went that route though as it lends itself well to making a more accurate Snowspeeder flightsuit with the mis-match color of the pants and jacket.


I had not even thought about that.  I know what i am doing when I find a spare Luke!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on March 10, 2011, 11:44 AM
A quick photoshop mockup* (custom one in the middle):

(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/jayson/customdagobahluke.jpg)


*I realize he's supposed to have a lighter coat and dark pants but it's just to show how the colors look together.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 10, 2011, 04:04 PM
I figured I'd start with the AOTC style Clone resculpt...  It's pretty impressive, however I don't think you need to toss your old "SA" (which "Super articulated" is now sort of funny by comparison), but I think they'll blend well enough.

As it turns out, the original 2003 SA clone sculpt and all of it's rereleases, which was the best clone to date, is still the best likeness and the best looking!

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on March 10, 2011, 04:09 PM
JACKOFTRADZE, ARE YOU LISTENING?!

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2011, 04:51 PM
I like both sculpts...  The new one is really tall though, far more than I realized at first.  It's cool but it's almost another scale.  I'm going to get a couple more just to have some guys to blend in with my SA Troops...

If figures were cheaper I'd probably try to replace anyone who'd yellowed that I have though, but at $8.99 I won't be doing that much replacing, not by a longshot.  2 extras will probably be my limit on the new Phase 1 Clone.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 10, 2011, 04:55 PM
I like both sculpts...  The new one is really tall though, far more than I realized at first.  It's cool but it's almost another scale.  I'm going to get a couple more just to have some guys to blend in with my SA Troops...

If figures were cheaper I'd probably try to replace anyone who'd yellowed that I have though, but at $8.99 I won't be doing that much replacing, not by a longshot.  2 extras will probably be my limit on the new Phase 1 Clone.

Yeah, he's too tall, he's too skinny (just a tad bulkier than the animated clones) and the helmet is inferior to the 2003 Phase I clone and all it's rereleases.

Still the best!
(http://guidestobuy.com/images/actionfigure/upload/ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H5ueNUkQL.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2011, 05:00 PM
I don't mind the helmet actually, I kind of like it.  I just don't foresee me spending a ton to get a lot of this guy.  I like him though, I just can't justify the price of him, regardless of how much I like it.

I figure I have to prep for the RFT since he's the only figure I'll still buy a lot of.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: EpicGon on March 10, 2011, 06:11 PM
About white clone trooper: tvc version is taller and slimmer than the original 2003 release.
The risk of slimmer versions is that they lose the appearance of a normal configuration
the slimmer the figure, the most it looks like animated style.

I want to talk about VC44 Luke Dagobah Landing

advance in depiction: the helmet has the most complete paintjob ever, only missing the part for the phone
it is also the first time a Lukeīs blaster comes with brown handle

Head sculpt is very accurate.

retreat in depiction
all silver buttons of the front of the figure are missing in the paintjob, specially on his utility belt.
the figure is a bit smaller than tlc snowspeeder version, which is based upon.



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Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: EpicGon on March 10, 2011, 06:17 PM
an aditional thought about vc 44 Luke

It seems according to the pics on 2 websites, that there are 2 different paintjob finishes

on bantahskull, the version with the less accomplished paintjob: part of the interior of the holster is orange instead of brown, and the bands of the boots are very faded pinted.

On yakface we see the average version: holster brown in the interior and bands of the boots light gray.

For the advance of interpretation of the character, we will find more discerning versions when the Attakus metal Dagobah Landing Luke will be released. At current time we donīt have the finished work of Attakus to compare both figures of the same scale.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darby on March 10, 2011, 07:29 PM
I got my case yesterday and I have to say I'm extremely impressed with what I thought was going to be a ho hum wave. 

The Clone Trooper is an exceptional upgrade.  Like most I doubt I will get many of him (I only have three of the 2003 version).

Luke is yet another knockout version of a character Hasbro spent years getting wrong.

Lando is a figure I did not need and yet he is also very, very good.

The Weequay is not as spectacular as say Giran or even Woolf but he's been on my all time list forever, so hell yeah.

The Jedi, didn't need him, awesome (notice a trend?)

The AT-RT Trooper - ditto.  Absolutely unnecessary, but another excellent offering. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 11, 2011, 11:28 AM
Wave 6 in stock at HTS.com
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2011, 05:12 PM
And they're pretty much gone it seems.   :-\  Didn't last long.  Lots of Wave 4 and 5 figures in though, for those whov'e had trouble getting those waves.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Ben on March 11, 2011, 11:19 PM
Dang. Well, I did get two Senate Guards and Kup from the TF line, so not a bad haul. HTS10 is still good.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Rob on March 13, 2011, 03:50 AM
Wave 6 is out and I haven't seen wave 4.

Fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: EpicGon on March 13, 2011, 12:31 PM
tvc General Lando depiction is very cool
they made an effort to show details such as wrist watch, bandolier, buttons in the collar of the shirt, wich were already on saga version, but is the chance to test a superarticulated version

I think the solid sculpt of previous saga is not diminished with this version, it could serve for dioramas were Lando is stand up, like the briefing room.

This tvc version is ideal to fit in the BMF cabin... well playable figure, decent, fine.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 14, 2011, 10:00 AM
I love this wave! The new Phase 1 Clone and AT-RT driver make the old clones look like Galactic Heroes (Chunky). Once you get these two new clone tools in hand and compare there is just no denying the difference, it's night and day. These new tools will respark the Clone craze and I hope they offer the Phase 1 Clone in it's own case. Even the new weapons are screen accurate! I am dumping the old army fo'sure!

I will also be doing a boil and pop with the Lukes to make them movie accurate I will post some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 14, 2011, 10:20 AM
Once you get these two new clone tools in hand and compare there is just no denying the difference, it's night and day.

Yeah there is no denying the difference.  But the claim that the new clone is an upgrade is up for debate.  You can tell just by looking at the package that the clone figure is skinnier than the clone fighting in the arena in the picture.  It's also a little too tall.  Almost as tall as Darth Vader.

For me the 2003 SA version and it's rereleases are still the most screen accurate.  I also consider the helmet to be a superior sculpt to the new clone. But it's a matter of personal preference.  If someone likes the new one better, go for it.  Life is short.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 14, 2011, 11:26 AM
Got my TVC Dagobah Luke today and it's a 9/10 for me,well articulated,the sculpt is spot on,face is the only area where the likeness to ESB Mark Hamill is off.

Holster,blaster,lightsaber and helmet all are well done.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 14, 2011, 04:53 PM
I will not argue/debate personal preference of which clones ones prefer but the new Clone is more screen accurate in every regard, even his weapons are. Just look at the sculpts below with the movie shot, there is no denying it, event he proportions are more realistic: (DISCLAIMER TO ALL JD MEMBERS - IN THE STUPID AGE OF OVER SENSITIVITY MY POST IS NOT MEANT TO BE A FIGHT, TO BE RUDE OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN PERSONALLY. I AM JUST STATING STRONG OPINION BACKED UP BY COMPARISON EVIDENCE

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/clonecompare4.jpg)

In regards to this figures height he is a smidge taller than the old one. The stance of the legs is wider on the old clone so the height difference is so minor it could actually be the same. I was blown away by this figure and the AT-RT driver, they looked like they walked off the screen. The articulation is so well hidden to boot. Again, I am not trying to rub anyone the wrong way but when you actually get this in hand you will see the details are spot on when you compare with old one. The old one is still a nice figure (I still love the 442nd clones!) but if you are like me and want the most screen accurate figure the old clone does not cut it anymore.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2011, 05:32 PM
I don't know.  I really don't agree that they're that different...  Different yes, but I wouldn't say that they make older figures look obsolete, especially the AT-RT Driver.  To me that's the one that is the most similar to its predecessor.

The Clone there's a significant difference but I agree with Dressel that it's debatable as to which you like better.

The armor sits higher on the new Clone but in the picture of the Clone from Geonosis you can see the armor looking more "fitted".  I kind of like the new one's helmet better though, and for me I prefer the improved articulation and removable helmet for sure.  So I won't rebuild any army, I'll simply add to it, as I see them mixing well.

For me, I actually prefer the ROTS AT-RT Driver in one big way...  He can actually hold a gun with two hands. :)

The new figure's chest armor is restrictive to the arm articulation when you're trying to pose him holding a rifle at all.  It's very weird.  What's neat on both of the new Clones though, is that you can pose the arms straight outward from the body.  The armor actually is designed to move up into a concave sculpting around the armpit and over the shoulder.  It takes some effort, but it's designed to do this.  I thought I read somewhere (Yak maybe?) that the arm couldn't move this way, but it can.  It's just really well hidden.  (Having his arms straight out at his sides like he's taking a DUI test for balance or something).
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on March 14, 2011, 05:35 PM
Yeah, this is more screen accurate... now only if Hasbro had given us something this nice for the Phase 2 clones, rather than this mess, which by comparison is a disaster from head to toe...

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TVC/Basic/VC15Clone/TVC-499.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 14, 2011, 05:36 PM
Well, hrmmm.  Okay, look at Jackoftradze's middle picture of the new clone, then look at these photos of what a phase I clone should look like:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2704/4306804279_a39fbaf7c7_z.jpg)

(http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/02/3/8/9/69181143118516885.jpg)

It's pretty clear to me that the new clone looks more like the animated version than the movie version, and that the 2003+ SA release is more in line with the movie clones.

But you know what, we all see different things!  That's fine.  I remember when people thought Monkey Leia was the best thing since sliced bread.  I won't be army building the new clone but that's me.  Especially at these prices.  Nobody needs to get offended over anyone's opinion of the new clone trooper.  We're supposed to all be chiming in our thoughts in these threads, that's what they're for.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 14, 2011, 07:19 PM
I just got this in wave from HTS - and man, they are all great - I really cant choose a favorite.  Early on I thought it would be Fi Ek, but now I really just dont know.  Awesome wave.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on March 14, 2011, 08:11 PM
It's pretty clear to me that the new clone looks more like the animated version than the movie version, and that the 2003+ SA release is more in line with the movie clones.

But you know what, we all see different things!  That's fine.  I remember when people thought Monkey Leia was the best thing since sliced bread.  I won't be army building the new clone but that's me.  Especially at these prices.  Nobody needs to get offended over anyone's opinion of the new clone trooper.  We're supposed to all be chiming in our thoughts in these threads, that's what they're for.

I'll be the voice of indecision here. Each figure appears to have its own merits. The most notable "flaws" with the TVC Clone are the legs. They appear to be too long and too thin. However, the sculpt captures the angles and the lines in the armor better than the 2003 sculpt. The 2003 Clone has a certain bulkiness to it, that is more appealing than the thin nature of the TVC clone. The TVC helmet looks far more accurate from the front, while the 2003 helmet sculpt seems to more accurately portray the the helmet when seen from the side. The shoulder pads on the TVC Clone look to be too high up, but I like how they partially hide the shoulder joint.

TVC Clone wins hands-down for weapons. It's awesome to get a new blaster and a larger, more accurate rifle.

If something truly angers me about the new clone, it's how it stands out from the old mold. Both are solid figures, but they might as well be based on totally different characters. I'm still unsure if I'm going to mix the two sculpts together, replace the old clones, or just army build the new clone a little bit and display two separate Clone armies. I don't think I'll be totally replacing the 2003 SA Clone since I'm so used to seeing it in my collection, and I still absolutely love the figure. It's very cool that Hasbro decided to revisit the Episode II clone, but hopefully they don't update OT Troopers such as Biker Scouts or Snow Troopers.

Chewie, the upcoming 501st Clone Trooper appears to be the new clone sculpt with a different helmet. It's a damn shame that the ROTS white and Utapau clones were released with the Gelagrub body, especially now that this new sculpt incorporates the hips articulation and removable helmet while improving aesthetics and adding wrist articulation.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2011, 08:29 PM
Other than the helmet issues (The new AOTC helmet shows how much better a new phase 2 helmet would look), I actually like the Gelagrub rider's sculpt for the ROTS style Clones...  I have my cleaned up 212th in an awesome crouching pose firing his rifle...  The helmet's fit is the only flaw I see with that figure personally.

I really think the new AOTC Trooper mixes better than people are giving it credit though...  I certainly will be making room for both.  And at $8.99 a figure, I won't be going batshit rebuying Clones anyway.  I'll nab a couple and call that a day then, till it hits a lower price.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 14, 2011, 09:44 PM
I will not argue/debate personal preference of which clones ones prefer but the new Clone is more screen accurate in every regard, even his weapons are. Just look at the sculpts below with the movie shot, there is no denying it, event he proportions are more realistic: (DISCLAIMER TO ALL JD MEMBERS - IN THE STUPID AGE OF OVER SENSITIVITY MY POST IS NOT MEANT TO BE A FIGHT, TO BE RUDE OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN PERSONALLY. I AM JUST STATING STRONG OPINION BACKED UP BY COMPARISON EVIDENCE

Careful,you may be actually able to have an opinion without having a barrage of rubbish levelled at you.

The old one is still a nice figure (I still love the 442nd clones!) but if you are like me and want the most screen accurate figure the old clone does not cut it anymore.

Agreed.


The Clone there's a significant difference but I agree with Dressel that it's debatable as to which you like better.

Of course it's debatable - the entire thing is subjective.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2011, 10:18 PM
I should've worded that better I guess, as I was more directly replying to WHY people like one over the other in regards to accuracy...  What people see seems to vary a good bit.  To me, the new one doesn't look screen accurate compared to the old one...  I was agreeing with Dressel's point of view that what we see on screen seems to be as open to debate, despite it being right there in front of us.

Personally I agree with Dressel though.  Some guys are seeing one thing...  some seem to see something else.  To me, the old sculpt looks like it has the "bulk" (literally) of what I see on screen.  The new figure looks thinner and taller...  I like his helmet more, and articulation, so I've got equal enjoyment from both figures I guess but for different reasons.  To me though, the old sculpt looks a lot more movie accurate, if that's your main driving force (though the new one's helmet looks more accurate itself).

In theory, what we see on screen shouldn't be this debatable, yet somehow here we are.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on March 15, 2011, 01:39 AM
I got two of these today in the mail, and for me, there's just no contest.  The old one is a great figure, but this new one is simply astonishing to me.  If this figure is not too hard to find, I'd like to get at least a dozen. 
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 15, 2011, 02:12 AM
I took some quick pics before I head to bed, I will read through the previous conversations and reply tomorrow. In the mean time here is some more fuel for the fun debate fire:

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonecompare1.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonecompare2.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonecompare3.jpg)

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 15, 2011, 03:57 AM
*Snip*

Yeah,can see your meaning now.

JACKOFTRADZE - excellent images to show the difference.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2011, 04:08 AM
Wow, for me that pic just reinforces to me how good the old one looks with the new one...

Here's an interesting thing on the height issue too...  It's not that tall (the new one) really.  It's got a lot of ankle "body glove" exposed for some reason as well, which seems odd, but wasn't painted anyhow.  I think the boot/shin armor were pretty compact on the film models, so that's odd but adds to the height...  It's not that different though.

To me that pic really shows how the old and new blend together pretty well though...  I'm glad for that because I don't like figures looking odd together for sure.  It's like the astromech thing...  Bar2's not too bad next to the previous sculpt astromechs so I was pleased it wasn't as bad as I was anticipating.

Here's some food for thought on the helmet in particular...  And why I think the new one is too large ultimately.

The head isn't made small, which is pretty necessary ultimately, if you want an accurate scale helmet.  I've watched 501st guys who put their helmets on, and even with the "give" of the human head (hair/skin able to compress), the Phase 1 helmet seems like it has to be turned to put it on and off a real human being wearing what I would assume is the most accurate "real" armor that one can get...  Stormtrooper helmets don't seem to need that but every guy in Clone armor I've seen has to do that to take it off, so I gather it's not that roomy.

Now, the new Clone figure's head is perfectly scaled to the body I believe (seems it to me anyway)...  It's not got the "pinhead" thing going on that Cody does so the helmet fits better.  This was something other toy companies actually faced...  they had to make smaller figures to fit in vehicles at first because the cockpits and stuff didn't allow for the compression of pants and the human body to fit into the tight spaces, and accuracy of the toy meant the figure was sacrificed, so ultimately a figure significantly smaller was the pack-in.  But the new Clone's helmet actually falls off it rather easily.

So with that I still like the old SA sculpt helmet better for accuracy, but for "fun" for me I like removable helmets so I like the new one better for that...  I really feel like those photos just really show how well old and new blend though.  I've not really had my old and new guys lined up like that, so that's a good pic.

I really love the hips and wrist joints...  I'm glad to see these turning up in new figures more now.  I hope Hasbro keeps that going...  I'd like to see it on a few others.  I can live without the wrists, but man it's a cool point of articulation.  And the hip joints are really the only way armored figures can kneel properly.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on March 15, 2011, 07:30 AM
The old one is fine.  I like the new one for better poses, finally has the big damn rifle, and the helmet is nicer IMO.  I am not getting rid of the old ones though.  I don't really army build that much so I won't be spending hundreds on it.  A few here and there, etc.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scockery on March 15, 2011, 08:52 AM
I'd say that the statue-like 2002 releases capture the truer look of the phase 1 clone helmet. Neither the pop-on ball socket head nor a removable helmet capture the onscreen look of the clones, which is a much more sealed in appearance. But I haven't even seen the new phase 1 figure.

I also thought the 2005 phase 2 quick draw clone was better in some areas than the beloved #41 (such as the ability to sit, and having less neck joint exposed).
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 15, 2011, 08:55 AM
While I have a particular fondness for the original 2003 SA version, I have to admit that Jack makes a strong argument. Haven't got one myself yet, but even when I do start finding them, I'm not going to replace my army either.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 15, 2011, 11:25 AM
Best of both worlds is where it's at.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 15, 2011, 11:53 AM
Wow this thread got fired up, I love it!

Proportionally and detail wise the new Phase 1 Clone smokes the old one in screen accuracy in my opinion. I want to point out another edge the new one has is the armor has a slight molded texture that gives it a flat and more realistic look. It no longer looks like shiny plastic like the old one, the old clone has a really shiny chest/torso. The Phase 2 clones were not as shiny as the old Phase 1 but it still had a plasticy look.

As I said the old clone is still a great figure but he is very action figurey when compared to the new one (I am using the "y" ending thing for a lot of words today). He is thicker and look heroically muscular like a kids toy. (Yes, I know it's still a toy but let's face it the Vintage line is geared more for adult collectors) FYI -The old AT-RT driver looks like the chubby younger brother compared to the new one. I do like the old Clones shoes better, the sole with the traction looked cool, that my only "complaint" on the new one. I will take better pics tonight, I was up really late last night so I rushed them.

My old clone army is fired. I already began selling them. Please Hasbro, sell these by the case to an online retailer. I would by 4-6 cases.

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scockery on March 15, 2011, 12:57 PM
Fired  :o. What are old clones to do in this job market?

I never even fired my POTF2 Stormtroopers, in fact I picked up 5 more last year at a yard sale.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 15, 2011, 01:15 PM
I never even fired my POTF2 Stormtroopers, in fact I picked up 5 more last year at a yard sale.

Want some more???
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 15, 2011, 02:46 PM
Fired  :o. What are old clones to do in this job market?

I never even fired my POTF2 Stormtroopers, in fact I picked up 5 more last year at a yard sale.


LONG LIVE THE 90'S!!!

(http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/greeedo/pony/HANSOLO4.jpg)

I still like this rifle the best. I still use it in my collection with my Legacy EU Spacetroopers. It looks great with them!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on March 15, 2011, 05:02 PM
I remember when the Commtech Stormtrooper came out, thinking what a leap forward that was.  I honestly think that this new vintage clone is nearly that level of a jump forward.  I just hope they get the Phase 2 removable helmets figured out and they look as sharp as these Phase 1 versions do.

Also, I'm not sure solid cases are a good idea, but a battle pack with 3 all white ones and one yellow or red one would be terrific.  However Hasbro seems to be against realistic style battle packs these days.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on March 15, 2011, 05:11 PM
The new clone would be 100% perfect it weren't for the legs.  They're too thin.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2011, 07:33 PM
(http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/02/3/8/9/69181143118516885.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonecompare1.jpg)

The thinness of the legs is one thing, but the thing that bothers me on the  new one is that clearly there are gaps at the armor on the new figure that are nowhere near that large on the actual character model used in the movie...  Look at the shoulders, hips (though they're not bad, but the character image is him walking/moving too, not "standing"), elbows...  If the ankles were painted (the body glove is even sculpted, just not painted), there'd be a larger gap there.

I think that's maybe something done for range of movement, so for me I like it for playability...  But for accuracy, that's simply not right compared to that character model image...  at least by what I'm seeing there.  The armor fits pretty tight together it seems.  But hey, it's still a good figure to me, I just see flaws I guess.  Everything has something wrong with it though.  If there's one thing I learned when I started doing reviews back on CSW's forum, it's that nothing is perfect by any stretch, haha.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 18, 2011, 01:51 PM
Wave 6 is up at HTS.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on March 18, 2011, 02:51 PM
Caveat Emptor:

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/Mailer3.JPG)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on March 18, 2011, 03:03 PM
Looks like most of them are pre-orders.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 18, 2011, 03:15 PM
I had a bunch of my vintage figures that I ordered arrive that way, but since they were openers it didn't matter.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 18, 2011, 07:55 PM
Looks like most of them are pre-orders.

Yeah but even though it says they'll ship in 2 weeks, oftentimes it only takes half that long.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on March 19, 2011, 12:12 AM
Son of a Biscuit I missed them again  ::)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 19, 2011, 03:12 AM
I know this a lame observation, but I like that this Clone sculpt has wider and flatter feet... lame, right? But if you look at a film picture of a Clone, the foot armor just makes his feet look... wide. Call me crazy. Older Clone sculpts seem to have narrower feet than the TVC Clone.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2011, 01:54 AM
I'm not home to compare but that's an interesting observation.  I'll have to check once I get back.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2011, 11:07 PM
Still looking for Vintage Wave 6 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS97568F)?

They're back in stock at Entertainment Earth if you are...  Get going and order folks. :)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 23, 2011, 08:55 AM
Excellent. I had pre-ordered two cases. Guess I'l be running over to pick them up soon.  :)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2011, 12:22 PM
As promised I took shots of my upgraded army, sorry for posting this late . I am one for consistency so I started my Phase 1 army over (and AT-RT drivers) and have no regrets. (FYI - The 3 ARCs shown are the former versions) You will also see the VC45 Clone with Hawkbat Ponchos, Arc Pauldrens, Animated Backpack and other weapons to show the versatility. Here are some shots to show them in larger numbers together plus I took a shot of the new DC-15 rifle on the Galactic Marines. Enjoy and LMK if you have any questions!

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonearmy1.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonearmy2.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonearmy3.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonearmy4.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonearmy5.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/bakersdozen3.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/bakersdozen1.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/newclonearmy6.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on March 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
Is that Jar Jar in a holding cell of some sort?

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2011, 04:25 PM
Is that Jar Jar in a holding cell of some sort?

Yes, it from Japan and lights up. I think it's from Microman, I bought it in Japan and have no concrete idea what line it's from. I do know it's a really cool piece.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: 501ST on March 30, 2011, 04:52 PM
*snip*
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4774020533_3b1c4d9ed5.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CorranHorn on March 30, 2011, 09:51 PM
Lot of folks have been mentioning the lack of weathering on the Dagobah Landing Luke. Now it definitely sucks that Hasbro didn't go the distance on the paint app, so I had to do it for them...

(http://www.ffurg.com/jason/TVC_DLLuke.jpg)

This is just a simple black/brown wash. I'm sure there are folks who can do a better job than I, but here's a basic idea of how it would look if Hasbro or you did it. The picture doesn't do it justice but the weathering is deep in person. Worth giving it a shot to those who don't want a day-glo orange Luke.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 1, 2011, 02:43 PM
All figures in stock at HTS on this lovely Friday afternoon.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: ruiner on April 1, 2011, 04:00 PM
Rumor has it, HTS is simply slapping stamps on the blister cards and dropping them in the mailbox. 

Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2011, 04:07 PM
Hah, I wouldn't be shocked.

Clone is out of stock, ATRT Driver is still in though.  I just placed an order yesterday for other stuff, of course, so I'm not going to order more I don't think.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 2, 2011, 01:33 PM
Popped open the Luke, Land and Weequey. Weequey is definitely better in person and is my favorite of the wave so far. Luke came out well and Lando is half and half for me. There's so much done right about him, yet, he just doesn't look right aesthetically. I think I like the previous version better.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 3, 2011, 12:35 AM
Sorry if I'm a little out of the loop, but has this wave actually been found at retail?  Or is it just the e-tailers that have it so far?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Aucassin on April 3, 2011, 04:44 AM
Sorry if I'm a little out of the loop, but has this wave actually been found at retail?  Or is it just the e-tailers that have it so far?

It's at retail now, though I've only seen the clone and Lando myself.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: jedipurge on April 6, 2011, 01:48 PM
while i'm still on the fence on the new AOTC clone now that I have one I did find it interesting that Cody and AOTC clone head are pretty good fits when swapped
not perfect but if that any indication for those that don't have new clone yet take that into consideration.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: warinthefloor on April 7, 2011, 11:49 AM
Son
(http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/galleries/2011/Review_NiktoJediTVC/thumbnails/Review_NiktoJediTVC09.jpg)
I am Disappoint
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on April 7, 2011, 11:51 AM
Popped open the Luke, Land and Weequey. Weequey is definitely better in person and is my favorite of the wave so far. Luke came out well and Lando is half and half for me. There's so much done right about him, yet, he just doesn't look right aesthetically. I think I like the previous version better.

I think I might agree with you on Lando.  The old one didn't have nearly this much articulation, but probably "looks" better.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on April 7, 2011, 04:37 PM
I'd agree on aesthetics on Lando.  I said from day one I opened my case that the headsculpt is wrong...  The sculpt overall is fine or even better.  There's some crisper detailing, and the physique is just right, but for me the likeness isn't quite right and was a disappointment.  Still, I'd take the articulated figure over the non-articulated figure ultimately. 

The only major flaw to me then was the band on the cape...  i'll replace that at some point I think.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on April 24, 2011, 12:51 PM
Looks like Hasbro tweaked the neck mold (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=4556968&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1) for the Skiff Master so the head sits closer to the shoulders.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on April 24, 2011, 02:10 PM
May rebuy him if I see that, and move mine to the fodder bin...  Though now the elongated neck will be some kind of rare variant perhaps?  :) 

That's an uncommon sight though...  A mold change takes a bit.  That's a cost usually, and I'm frankly surprised they bothered.  I was ok with it as-is.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 25, 2011, 06:05 AM
May rebuy him if I see that, and move mine to the fodder bin...  Though now the elongated neck will be some kind of rare variant perhaps?  :) 

That's an uncommon sight though...  A mold change takes a bit.  That's a cost usually, and I'm frankly surprised they bothered.  I was ok with it as-is.

Do you think it costs the same to slap a holster on the RFT?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on April 25, 2011, 04:41 PM
I would guess so, if they tooled it directly to the leg...  Or they could tool up a whole new belt/holster that fits over the existing belt like a Han Solo belt, or so many other characters have.  I don't expect them too though.  I really am still left clueless why they ditched the holster on the RFT.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: speedermike on May 3, 2011, 10:04 AM
Friggin' finally!

Got all six today at TRU at 10.99 a pop!  It was the first time I've seen more than one new figure on the pegs since Dec.  Now I'm hoping that wave 4 shows up sometime.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 3, 2011, 11:45 AM
Not sure if you live by a Meijer - but I went to one yesterday that looked like it just recently put out about 3 cases worth of wave 4.  It looked like everything was there except Zam - but I may have overlooked her.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 5, 2011, 11:20 AM
Any idea if Hasbrotoyshop is selling the funky helmet Stormie or the newly updated Stormie? They have it for sale, I'm just wondering which one it is. Anyone ordered this from them?
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on May 5, 2011, 11:54 AM
I'd say it's a crap shoot as to what you'd get.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 5, 2011, 12:05 PM
That's what I'm afraid of.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: McMetal on May 5, 2011, 12:51 PM
Saw this Wave restocked at TRU this morning, but was not sure what to look for in regards to the stormtrooper helmet. Couldn't tell which Skiff Guard neck it was either.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jayson on May 5, 2011, 01:45 PM
The new one (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC41/lf29.html) is on the right.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 5, 2011, 04:20 PM
I also saw this wave stocked today at Target but I didn't need anything.  The Skiff Guard had the long neck.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: darth broem 2 on May 7, 2011, 12:50 AM
Damn! I keep missing these figures.  It's driving me nutty!  >:D
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 14, 2011, 08:57 AM
Incredibly, after not coming across one case of wave 4, and still not having the set, I came across enough wave 6 cases to put together a squad of Stormies, and then replace them all with the updated version. 18 cases as opposed to 1/2. Weird.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 17, 2011, 09:31 AM
I went to 2 WMs yesterday looking for some Captain America Wave 2 figs and came out empty handed, but I did see one of the smaller WM put out a case of this wave, and the Super WM had I think 4 pegs overflowing with this wave
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Diddly on May 20, 2011, 02:41 AM
Spotted remnants of this wave at a local WM today, specifically Weequay, Clone, Senate Guard and Luke. I had them in my hand but decided to pass at almost $9 a pop. I'm... not that upset to be honest.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 20, 2011, 09:53 AM
I have been looking for the short neck Weequay but I think I may hit eBay because I am sick of the clogged or empty pegs. I am surprised the only carry forward of this wave is the EP2 Clone in the future cases. I figured Luke and the AT-RT driver would be carried forward but thus far they are not. Get them while you can.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: JediJman on May 20, 2011, 10:10 AM
I have been looking for the short neck Weequay but I think I may hit eBay because I am sick of the clogged or empty pegs. I am surprised the only carry forward of this wave is the EP2 Clone in the future cases. I figured Luke and the AT-RT driver would be carried forward but thus far they are not. Get them while you can.

Try Target.  Most of the Targets in Mpls got this wave in the last week or two.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Scockery on May 27, 2011, 11:16 PM
Spotted remnants of this wave at a local WM today, specifically Weequay, Clone, Senate Guard and Luke. I had them in my hand but decided to pass at almost $9 a pop. I'm... not that upset to be honest.

Basically how I felt today. I did get Weequay, because at least he's never been made. Plus I'm sick of feeling how far behind the rest of the world I seem to be in even finding these damn figures.

A Wal-Mart having a shelf tag for $4.50 Saga Legends, then them  scanning up as $7.88 didn't make me happy, either.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on May 28, 2011, 01:59 AM
Saw the revision tonight, picked up the fixed Weequay and Stormie...  Luke and AT-RT Driver were gone.  That AT-RT Driver is the surprise mover from that wave.  The AOTC Clone is way easier to get...  I think it's again competition with the Legends line, while the AT-RT Driver hasn't been around since I guess 2005.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 30, 2011, 02:01 AM
Finally saw the Weequay from this wave.  Now I want a redo of the original weequay even more!
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: warinthefloor on May 31, 2011, 02:58 PM
something about that AT RT guys articulation feels wonky, especially around teh hips and shoulder.
So I stopped at two but otherwise was planning on going nuts on them
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: CHEWIE on May 31, 2011, 03:15 PM
I've bought 4 of the AT-RT driver so far... really a great figure.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: warinthefloor on May 31, 2011, 03:27 PM
well its not like I have left any on the pegs, Ive only seen 2.
I do like it a lot, my original plan was to completely crew my turbo tank with them
but with the difficulty of finding things anymore I stopped looking after these two.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on May 31, 2011, 11:39 PM
There is an oddness to its articulation, but it's interesting how Hasbro is doing some of the new armored joints.  the shoulders were a little odd, but they actually recess into the torso armor...  It's difficult, but I was surprised by this.  I thought the shoulders were limited in range, but turns out they're as posable as any other figure.

I'd like a 2nd AT-RT Driver, he's the only figure of that wave I've not seen on pegs yet I believe.  I'd like to swap heads with the AOTC Clone since they're perfect swaps and one's younger while one's older.  It's a cool swap situation.

If I see another I may nab it.  I've seen the rest of the wave in some quantity or another over that trooper.  Oddly, the AOTC Clone is one of the ones I see the most out of the wave.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: warinthefloor on June 1, 2011, 10:18 AM
so, the funny shoulder joint will travel further if I push it a litte harder, IE roll into the torso a Little? If Thats the case, ill try it later, then I may want a couple more.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2011, 03:18 PM
Yeah, just be careful, and watch how it can sort of roll up under the armor...  It's odd for sure.  Superior?  I'm not sure.  It's visually superior, but the joints are stiffer because of this now.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Greg on June 1, 2011, 05:44 PM
The AT-RT driver is alright. The figure really could've used the ball hinged wrists. While it's not bad, I am totally in love with the AOTC clone, so the AT-RT driver has taken a back seat. Yeah, I'm in love with a toy. I'm pathetic.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Jesse James on June 6, 2011, 02:13 AM
More wave 6 were put out at the store I hit last weekend that had them, so I grabbed Lando for kicks since I wanted an extra of him and he was there.  They now also had Luke and another fixed neck Skiff Master...  Not much else of the wave was around though except repacks like the Endor Rebel and Senate Guard (he's repacked in that wave, no?), which aren't bad repacks to see.  Lots of Bar2 though, which are NOT the best repacks to see I guess.

Fi Eck whatever is one from this wave that I always forget about, but who I never see.  Him and the AT-RT Driver (and Luke, generally, except for this evening) go the fastest for whatever reason.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Diddly on June 7, 2011, 12:03 AM
Found remnants of this wave tonight at a local WM... snagged a second Clone Trooper which is enough for me for now. I'm sure I'll snag more when this sculpt hits Legends. Still need Luke, who I never see either.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Blaster under the pillow on June 14, 2011, 04:34 AM
I've managed to pick up everyone but Luke in this wave. I can't seem to stop buying the clone though, I had the same problem with the previous version. I've stuck pilot helmets from the gunship turret packs on some of them and they look good.

The head sculpts from this wave seem really sharp to me and I love the continued paint apps on the weapons.
Title: Re: 2011 "Vintage" Collection Wave 6
Post by: Blaster under the pillow on June 30, 2011, 05:17 AM
Finally got the Luke from this wave, the image on the card is a serious nostalgia kick for me... it really took me back to when Empire was first released.

The head from this figure looks great on the Medical frigate Luke from the Legacy collection.