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Collectibles => The Vintage Collection => Topic started by: Jesse James on October 18, 2012, 01:32 AM
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These 2-packs, at these prices, are more in line with what I think the line should be at, price-wise... Would people be into more rounds of these? I can't imagine there's going to be many no's to that query but you never know.
I was thinking, especially with the AT-ST Pilot sets, how cool future sets could be...
My immediate want is Fleet Trooper/Stormtrooper sets. Either 2 RFT's and 2 ST's or 1 of each in a set, maybe two sets with maybe slightly different decoes. I love the packaging and would enjoy something like that, done relatively inexpensive with minimal new toolings and maybe different decoes or accessories. Too bad these didn't happen till the end of the line. This format has potentional I think.
My 2nd want would be "Death Star Trooper/Naval Officer" 2-pack... Take the new DST, repaint the head with a new deco to the hair, voila... new trooper. Take another of the new DST's, put a new head on it, put an imperial officer hat on it... voila, make one of the random black tuniced officers (if you wanna be picky, add a rank badge, but I could live without it).
I'd dig a Sandtrooper/Sandperson too... maybe make the Sandtrooper a unique deco/rank, new long storm/sandtrooper rifle (the one Chewie uses on the Death Star) and put in the Vintage Sandperson with a new deco, maybe some "war trophy" type accessories and stuff?
Simple sets like that would really be interesting to me.
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Did the black tunic officers wear the longer gloves? The jumpsuited ones did (or Hasbro thinks they did, not sure). Internet image searches seem to fail me on this.
I'm wanting the comic packs back for Tag and Bink, not because I like their stories that much but for 2 Rebel Fleet Trooper or Stormtroopers (or less so, TIE Pilots) with new heads.
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I think this is a fantastic idea! And it would have so many possibilities. The only thing I would question is mixing them up, or keeping them uniform (one of each or two of the same kind). But here's some other possibilities...
• Endor Trooper 2 packs (a great way to get the different uniform troopers out there...there was a lot of variety with the rebels)
• Stormtroopers (I would buy pretty much every one I see, provided they avoid the boneheaded paint ops mistake of TVC)
• Rebel Fleet Troopers
• Hoth Rebel Troopers
• Snowtroopers
• Hoth rebel officers (the brown vested trooper)
• Gammorean guards
• Sandtroopers (with different ranks, but I would love the option to buy 2 of the black pauldron sandies in a pack, since they're the most prevalent.
• Dresselian rebels (generic, non-hero)
• Bespin guards
• Imperial officers (black tunic)
• Naval troopers
These would be excellent for army builders. Notice I opted to not include the clones, because I feel like letting Hasbro go wild with clones is akin to trusting a junkie to "hold onto" a bag of dope. Plus, what's worse than a clone trooper with a yellowing helmet? Two of them...in the same pack.
I could also see Hasbro expanding on this to give us some non-movie (and non Yuzhan-Vong) 2 packs...
• Noghri warriors!
• Mandalorian troopers
• Sith troopers (KOTOR)
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What about using them as a vehicle to give us a re-release of the Imperial Scanning Crew tech AND the variant figure and accessory they had planned but had to cancel?
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That figure wasn't much of a variant, but the accessory was... I'd be cool with that. The figure, I'm pretty sure, didn't have a unique head.
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What about using them as a vehicle to give us a re-release of the Imperial Scanning Crew tech AND the variant figure and accessory they had planned but had to cancel?
The missing Scanning Crew guy is coming in the Droid Factory line in 2013
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The missing Scanning Crew guy is coming in the Droid Factory line in 2013
Oh okay - thanks. Hadn't heard that sorry...
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I'd totally be down with the idea of having more 2-packs. I'd love it if they made 2-packs of: Stormtroopers, Hoth Rebel Troopers, Snowtroopers, Bespin Guards, Death Star Troopers, Death Star Gunners, and last but certainly not least, ASTROMECHS!
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What about using them as a vehicle to give us a re-release of the Imperial Scanning Crew tech AND the variant figure and accessory they had planned but had to cancel?
The missing Scanning Crew guy is coming in the Droid Factory line in 2013
Awesome! I must have missed that note.
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I didn't recall that either but that's cool... I've seen a prototype of the original so I wonder if they're changing it or just putting the last figure out with the upper box?
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I'd be down for a Cantina and Jabba themed set. Maybe a sandtrooper and a funky alien and a Gammo and a funky alien or somthing along those lines.
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The absolute best 2-pack Hasbro could give us would be the Tonnika Sisters, of course.
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I don't know if "new" was what I was hoping for with this topic as much as "new-ish". Like the current ones... A new head, helmet, or some new gear... Minor changes was more my thinking.
Start getting too new, and you're probably looking at $20 2-packs. :)
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The absolute best 2-pack Hasbro could give us would be the Tonnika Sisters, of course.
And they will make it an exclusive thru Brian's Toys for $80. $120 if you want mint on card.
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I think we need a Scott Pearson exclusive:
Willrow Hood & Fozec
;)
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Greedo and Beedo
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If we're talking about pairs of themed 2-packs? I've got a couple of ideas:
THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
ATTACK ON HOTH
-Imperial Snowtrooper & Imperial Snowtrooper Officer
-Hoth Rebel Trooper & Hoth Rebel Officer
CLOUD CITY
-Boba Fett & Han Solo in Carbonite
-2 x Cloud City Wing Guards
RETURN OF THE JEDI
EMPORER'S ARRIVAL
-Emporer Palpatine & Darth Vader
-2 x Royal Guards
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I've been saying for years that Hasbro should ditch the Movie Heroes/Saga Legends format and turn it into a discounted 2-pack line. It would free up space on the pegs, they could give us the army builders we request and they can still do the lame Anakin/Obi-Wan/Vader repacks that nobody wants. Man, there's SO much potential here. Price it at $14.99 and watch the army builders fly off the shelves and the Anakins/Obi-Wans sit. But at least it will be a value.
Just off the top of my head here are some army building sets they could do:
TPM:
- Gungan Warrior and Naboo Soldier (Defenders of Naboo)
- Battle Droid and Destroyer Droid (Invaders of Naboo)
AOTC:
- Clone Trooper and Clone Trooper
- Red Battle Droid and Super Battle Droid
- Clone Officer and Clone Officer
ROTS:
- Battle Droid and Super Battle Droid
- Magnaguard and Magnaguard
- 501st Trooper and 501st Trooper
- Shocktrooper and Shocktrooper
- Utapau Trooper and Utapau Airborne Trooper
- Galactic Marine and Galactic Marine
- Plain Clone Trooper and Plain Clone Trooper
- Kashyyyk Trooper and Kashyyyk Trooper
ANH:
- Stormtrooper and Imperial Navy Commando (Death Star Defense)
- Sandtrooper and Tusken Raider (Perils of Tatooine)
- Han Stormtrooper and Luke Stormtrooper (Death Star Invaders)
- TIE Pilot and TIE Pilot (Darth Vader's Wingmen)
ESB:
- Snowtrooper and AT-AT Driver (Invaders of Hoth)
- Hoth Rebel Soldier and Hoth Deck Officer (Defenders of Hoth)
- Bespin Wing Guard and Ugnaught
ROTJ:
- Scout Trooper and Stormtrooper (Defenders of Endor)
- Endor Rebel Soldier and Endor Rebel Soldier (one based on the Saga 02 sculpt, the other based on the POTF2 sculpt)
- Royal Guard and Royal Guard
- Imperial Dignitaries
I'm sure there's TONS of potential sets I'm missing too, as I'm not even including main characters here! I'd even be down for some swaps, like including a Clone Trooper and a Battle Droid
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Greedo and Beedo
Dude, they already made Greedo, it would be "Unnamed Rodian in Docking Bay 94" and Beedo.
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There were also a couple of them hanging out by the slot machine in Jabba's palace...take your pick.
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I've always liked the idea of 2 packs as well, particularly if you could hit that $14.99 pricepoint mentioned earlier. Of course the army building packs would be of most interest to most of us, but I think it would be nice for casual buyers/new collectors/kiddos to have packs like VOTC Han and EB Chewie, Vader/Obi, Luke/Leia, 3PO/R2, Anakin/Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon/Maul, etc. We've already got pretty much ultimate figures of all of these guys, so just repack them and keep the prices lower. Toss in an "all new" pack every once in awhile for collectors, but even the army builders are well covered at this point. Heck, just have this replace Movie Heroes and I don't know that people would mind too much.
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The idea I was running with there was A) Inexpensive to keep prices down, and B) Keeping things in the "Special Action Figure" packaging because it's Vinty and appealing (at least I feel it's appealing looking) and should be cheaper than most other types of packaging.
With that in mind I think hoping for new is kind of out there... Or at least all new anyway.
I also think 2 of the same guy may limit desirability... That's why I lean a little more towards a Fleet Trooper/Stormtrooper type set. Have the background set up as the Tantive IV hallway. :)
Or a TIE Pilot/X-Wing Pilot... Have the background be space and their ships in the distance behind them or something.
Some sets I'd dig then, with that in mind:
-Fleet Trooper/Stormtrooper... I like that idea, and I could use more of both. While I'd like more RFT's especially, I like the idea of it being a set of two desirable figures. Especially if it's a really good Stormtrooper... The RFT has to have a new head though, and a belt with a working holster.
-Hoth Rebel/Echo Base Rebel... Less of the "Versus" theme there, but again new heads and hats would be welcome.
-Snowtrooper/Snowtrooper Officer... I like this as a method of getting out a Snowtrooper officer with minimal new tooling.
The other possibility is mixing the Snowtrooper Officer in with an Echo Base Rebel and mixing the Snowtrooper in with the Rebel Trooper to keep the "Versus" theme going.
-Biker Scout/Endor Rebel Trooper... Make an Endor Trooper variation, however you want to go with it (softgoods vested one on the current figure's sculpt would be swell though), and the new Speederbike Scout... I'm in for a lot of this set.
-Endor Trooper Variant 2/Endor Death Star Trooper (jumpsuited guys)... The latter could simply be a variation of the AT-ST Driver sculpt with a new head/hat, or whatever. The former could be perhaps a little extra new tooling than normal but still re-using legs/gear easily enough.
-Yavin Hangar Technician/Pilot... Again, maybe slip a couple extra X or Y-Wing pilots from Yavin in, and get the Hangar Tech out too with those slick little light sticks perhaps?
-Cantina Monsters Set 1... I'd like to see two done like this, as exclusives, which would be modern sculpts of the classic outfits. First would be Greedo & Red Snaggletooth... Modernized sculpts of the classic jumpsuits, boots, colors, etc.
-Cantina Monsters Set 2... Same as above but Hammerhead and Walrus Man.
If these were really creative, you buy both and you build a Blue Snaggletooth with parts included in both. As an exclusive I'd pay a higher price for it. I'd pay $20 a piece for these if done right, as an ultimate fan-wank.
-Jabba Goons #1... Simple re-release of the Gammie Guard and a retool of Kithaba from this year to make a better version of the other Klaatooinian guard from POTF2... Give him a removable girlie backpack, new paintjob... I'd be into this bigtime.
-Jabba Goons #2... Kitbash one of the unmade Weequay Guards. Kitbash Yoxgit or perhaps a new head to make a new 8D8 using the BGJ38?
I'd be into other sets too, even with main characters, but the idea I think would have to stay somewhat the same, minimal new toolings and such, for the price to really stay where it is. A single figure is $10, so $15 for 2 you really need to keep things realistic with this I feel.