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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: Scott on November 18, 2003, 02:06 PM
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(http://img.uno.hu/img/pictures/1179.jpg)
Looks like MJ is in trouble :'(
LOS OLIVOS, Calif. - Investigators conducting a criminal probe swarmed Michael Jackson (news)'s Neverland Ranch on Tuesday, a sheriff's spokesman said. The purpose of the search was not disclosed.
Authorities from the Santa Barbara County sheriff's and district attorney's offices served a warrant about 8:30 a.m. as part of an "ongoing criminal investigation," Sgt. Chris Pappas said in a recorded statement on a media information line.
The district attorney's office had no comment, said legal secretary Debbie Popp.
It was not known whether Jackson or his children were at the Santa Ynez Valley property, which has its own zoo and amusement park with bumper cars, a merry-go-round and Ferris wheel.
Nearly 10 years have passed since the 45-year-old singing superstar faced a child-molestation investigation in a case that never resulted in criminal charges.
The singer who had international hits with the albums "Thriller" (1982), "Bad" (1987) and "Dangerous" (1991), saw his career begin to collapse in 1993 amid allegations he molested a boy. Jackson maintained his innocence, and charges were never filed. He reportedly paid a multimillion-dollar settlement.
Jackson is also connected to Hollywood private eye Anthony Pellicano, who has begun serving federal prison time for possessing illegal explosives, and is being investigated about whether he secretly taped conversations of celebrities and their lawyers.
Pellicano, 59, reportedly worked for Jackson while the singer was under investigation for child molestation in the early 1990s.
As the raid was under way, Court TV reported that the warrant was tied to allegations brought by a 12-year-old boy. That could not immediately be confirmed by The Associated Press.
Jackson's spokesman, Stuart Backerman, did not answer his cell phone and did not immediately return messages Tuesday.
In a television documentary broadcast on ABC earlier this year, Jackson said he had slept in a bed with many children. "When you say bed you're thinking sexual," the singer said. "It's not sexual, we're going to sleep. I tuck them in. ... It's very charming, it's very sweet."
The search came on the same day Epic Records released "Number Ones," a greatest hits collection featuring Jackson's new single, "One More Chance." On Nov. 26, CBS is scheduled to air a Jackson special consisting mainly of old concert footage.
Jackson has three children, and caused an international uproar last year when he displayed his baby, Prince Michael II, to fans by dangling him briefly from a fourth-floor balcony in Germany, where he had gone to accept an award.
Jackson called the incident a "terrible mistake," and Berlin authorities said the actions were not punishable.
Not much is known about Prince Michael II, whose mother has not been identified. The singer's 6-year-old son, Prince Michael I, and 5-year-old daughter, Paris, were born during his marriage to Debbie Rowe, his plastic surgeon's nurse, which ended in 1999.
He was also married to Lisa Marie Presley (news), Elvis's daughter, between 1994 and 1996.
Jackson routinely keeps the children's heads covered with cloth while escorting them in public — and he usually sports a surgical mask himself when out and about. He has said he wants to protect them from the public eye.
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What I want to know, is why you would ever, ever, ever let your kid go sleep over Michael Jackson's house.
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All I have to say is when is the rest of the ignorant world going to wake up on this pedophile. Does anyone really believe this guy is innocent after dropping a few million to the previous kid to keep quiet? If this was any other person (without his finances), the public would have his nuts hooked up to a car battery by now.
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what nuts?
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what nuts?
Good point ;D
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No who here was a devout MJ fan back in the Thriller days? I'll hold my hand high and proud, that Album rules. Too bad his brain started rotting soon after :'(
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What I want to know, is why you would ever, ever, ever let your kid go sleep over Michael Jackson's house.
I hear he pays quite handsomely for such escapades with people's young boys. Not to mention the bragging rights involved for the parents: Hey, my kid got it on with MICHAEL JACKSON! :P
Maybe that's not funny though, but you've gotta admit there's some seriously stupid parents involved here if that's not their reasoning (and even if it is)... :-\
Well, the SB police always said they never "closed" the investigation some 9 years ago, so it's good to see they're still following up on it. Sounds like a 12 year old boy came forward with some kind of info this time. The way they stormed the place, it sounds like he may have given the police some good tips on what to find there, and where.
This may be THE END for Michael. Coincidentally on the same day his # 1's album and a new single are released. Wacko Jacko may finally be going to the Slammo!
But yeah, Thriller was great, Scott!
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Yeah I loved Thriller. Hell I even like Bad. Dangerous was even ok. Supposedly he invites poor kids to his Neverland place and "sleeps" with them. Oh well, it's his own fault. Quit putting yourself in a situation where you will be caught. Duh!!!
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Quit hatin' on Peter Pan! >:(
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Quit hatin' on Peter Pan! >:(
jacko's not peter pan... this guy is (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/) lol
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Quit hatin' on Peter Pan! >:(
jacko's not peter pan... this guy is (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/) lol
Wow, and I thought some Star Wars diehards had no life. That guy should just wear a sign that says "kick my ass". Unbelievable.
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Source: Arrest warrant issued for Jackson (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/19/jackson.ranch/index.html)
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Quit hatin' on Peter Pan! >:(
jacko's not peter pan... this guy is (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/) lol
Thanks for the link to Peter Pan there. My coworkers are still laughing at it :)
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Heard there was an ambulance there too last night...wonder what that was all about. Has anyone seen his Chimp lately?
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Just watched the entire press conference, and it's not lookin' so good for Jacko. He's being charged with "Multiple Counts", but the sherrif wouldn't specify whether that involved multiple children, or just the one. He's working out the terms of his surrender, and apparently they're even going to confiscate his passport so he doesn't attempt to flee the country...
The lead sherrif and the prosecutor who were running the press conference were cracking a bunch of jokes at Wacko's expense. Pretty amusing! Can't wait to see what unfolds with this whole thing... :P
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Heard there was an ambulance there too last night...wonder what that was all about. Has anyone seen his Chimp lately?
Too funny Scott. My fear is that when this is all over, some pretty disturbing stuff might surface. The guy is more than a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
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And a lot of cartilage short of a nose :P
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Hopefully the victim decides to go through with the charges and not do what the other boy did 10 years ago. If that kid had done what he should of done, go through with charges, this incident may of never have happened. I wonder how many more victims are out there who Jacko have kept quiet by making it seem like its okay for this to happen to them. I can't belive that parents still allow their kids to sleep over at his house. Jacko needs to remember a very important thing... you are not a kid but an adult.
Speaking about the press conference the funniest thing I heard was:
"Are you going to provide us with lunch after this press confernce?" unkown hungery reporter.
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I guess they just arrested ol Jacko.
Some kid ratted him out or somthing like that.
My grandmother just called him "The singer who lost his nose."
LMAO.
Thats classic.
Kevin
*EDIT*-He wasnt arrested, I just had a mis-communication with some one-
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Oh my. MJ's booking photo:
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/11/20/top.main.mugshot.jpg)
I'm afraid. I'm very afraid! I bet the Santa Barbara sherrifs are wondering if they booked him into the correct jail, since he looks much more like a woman than a man nowadays. :P
Some pretty crazy allegations flying now, about Wacko possibly having given wine and/or sleeping pills to the kid before their rumored frivolities. Kid had/has cancer. MJ tried to get their whole family to leave the country. etc. Boy, this one is even going to far surpass the whole Kobe Bryant fiasco!
Whether or not he actually did the stuff he's accused of, Jackson's still pretty much a certifiable wacko!
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That is one sexy beast!
Kevin
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wowza :o
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Hey, who's the bad Diana Ross lookalike?
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(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/11/20/top.main.mugshot.jpg)
Im sorry, but thats not human. To anyone who believes the stories that he needed that plastic surgery for health reasons, your about as bright as a ten watt light bulb.
"He's more machine now. Twisted and evil."
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(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/11/20/top.main.mugshot.jpg)
Im sorry, but thats not human. To anyone who believes the stories that he needed that plastic surgery for health reasons, your about as bright as a ten watt light bulb.
He honestly looks like hes trying to punk out the camera man.
I bet he is one fierce guy. I mean, walking around like that, he must be either very strong, fast, or carrys a gun.
Or he is...in the name of a fellow member...Hung So-low.;)
Kevin
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Caught this little auction oddity over at RS, pointed out by Hung Solow. Pretty funny!
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/00/ef/53/10_1.JPG)
Wacko Jacko (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3364493120&category=435)
Jesse, care to critique this custom? Looks to have little to no articulation, so right off the bat I'm already hoping for a resculpt at some point... Definitely stuck in a preposed action stance as well, which is unfortunate if you wanted to try to use the figure in any other dioramas with young children...
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Caught this little auction oddity over at RS, pointed out by Hung Solow. Pretty funny!
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/00/ef/53/10_1.JPG)
Wacko Jacko (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3364493120&category=435)
Jesse, care to critique this custom? Looks to have little to no articulation, so right off th ;De bat I'm already hoping for a resculpt at some point... Definitely stuck in a preposed action stance as well, which is unfortunate if you wanted to try to use the figure in any other dioramas with young children...
That likeness is way off. Look at the size of the nose on that figure. Its almost normal. Nothing an exacto and a little sculpy cant fix ;D
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It's funny because it's allegedly true.
http://www.zooass.com/games/neverland/neverland.swf (http://www.zooass.com/games/neverland/neverland.swf)
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That gets tough after a while, I got midway through the sixth escape attempt. Those damn bats slow the game down too much, makes it hard to catch all those kids ;)
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Same here- halfway through the sixth wave. Damn bats! :P
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I was doing pretty good even with the bats. But I think I lost interest before Round 7. :-X
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Don't go to Neverland.
Prevention is the best treatment.
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Grand Jury indicted this kook yesterday..have fun in the big haus MJ!!!
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Did anyone catch the South Park about him last night?
It was funny...but I think the best part was how good their Michael Jackson songs were. :)
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(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2004/LAW/02/13/jackson.hearing/vert.jackson.ap.jpg)
Can someone explain why people go to the courthouse and cheer for Michael?
I just don't get it...he's a has been and he's creepy and he's being tried (AGAIN!) for molestation
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So Wacko Jacko's trial if officially out of control. Maybe it's just 'cause I'm here in SoCal, just a couple hours away from all the shenanigans, but the coverage of this **** is absolutely crazy.
Today, the nutjob decided to say he was in the hospital (again) this morning with back pain, hence he was late to the trial and showed up in his pajamas. Seriously?! Yep. Every radio news channel out here was giving a freakin' play-by-play of this morning's court appearance (or lack thereof) by MJ. They even took all the regularly scheduled news, traffic reports, sports, etc. off the air this morning to give live coverage, for at least a good hour, of MJ's mysterious disappearance. Apparently the judge even issued a bench warrant for his arrest, since he wasn't at court on time, and no one knew where he was.
Just convict the bastard already, and toss him in the clinker, and be done with it. I'm tired of seeing the coverage everywhere I turn.
Anyone here actually think this pretty little princess is NOT guilty?
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/11/20/top.main.mugshot.jpg)
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In this case, I am unsure. Do I think he's sick in the head and likes little kids? Yes.
Did anyone else see that he had a life sized C3PO in his room?
Kevin
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Wacko Sicko is right!
Inside Michael Jackson's bizarre den
(http://www.news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/03/04/wjacko04.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/03/04/ixnewstop.html)
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Above it was a version of The Last Supper featuring Jackson.
Yikes.
Kevin
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Did anyone else see that he had a life sized C3PO in his room?
No ****? Really? That's cool!
Hmmm... Maybe he's innocent after all... 8)
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He has a Darth Vader too!
Kevin
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Yeah, the better to lure little boys w/ SW toys...
don't call him princess, yikes!!!
Funny story though (at least to me):
My son was in a real zombie stage around Valentine's Day thanks to Scooby Doo's Zombie Island.
He saw the commercial for the special they had on Michael Jackson and they showed a picture of MJ and he said "Mommy, is that a zombie??" of course, at first you want to laugh, but then it's like "wow, you know, he really does rather look like the living dead after all that surgery".
A lady I work for believes he's actually innocent ::)
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Yeah, the better to lure little boys w/ SW toys...
Oh come on, kids don't play with Star Wars figures... :)
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Yeah, the better to lure little boys w/ SW toys...
Oh come on, kids don't play with Star Wars figures... :)
Did I say I was talking about kids ? ;)
"C'mon, sexy, want to come to my place and see my SW collection?" that always works for me...
You mean it doesn't work the same for guys??
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For you, yes. For us, it's like saying I have a 1" dick. ;D
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For you, yes. For us, it's like saying I have a 1" dick. ;D
Yeah, that wouldn't be very good...
but you never know, the SW line might work- one day...
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"C'mon, sexy, want to come to my place and see my SW collection?" that always works for me...
You mean it doesn't work the same for guys??
Not without a trusty box of wine.
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"C'mon, sexy, want to come to my place and see my SW collection?" that always works for me...
You mean it doesn't work the same for guys??
Not without a trusty box of wine.
Come on Jess
Not without a trusty box of Jesus Juice. :-*
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Okay guys, see... it's not the SW toys it's the "Box" of wine that is running them off...
especially when you offer it along w/ cold pizza or pop tarts...
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Okay guys, see... it's not the SW toys it's the "Box" of wine that is running them off...
especially when you offer it along w/ cold pizza or pop tarts...
No way, the classy ladies always go for that stuff.
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Maybe it's a Canadian thing....
Getting back to topic, how many guys are going to try and slip wine into soda/pop/Coke now??
that's gotta be disgusting...
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Maybe it's a Canadian thing....
Getting back to topic, how many guys are going to try and slip wine into soda/pop/Coke now??
that's gotta be disgusting...
I read the brother said he saw Michael and the boy sharing a Diet Coke can on the airplane. Maybe that answers your question? Diet Coke already is disgusting, so it may be hard to tell the difference.
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So have you guys been following Wacko Jacko's trial? Man, he's getting his ass nailed left and right every day now, by former kids, and former employees of his at Neverland. Problem is, the defense keeps rebutting most of the former employees with the usual "you have a grudge against him, 'cause he fired you, and you sued him and lost", etc.
But at some point, you really have to ask yourself if a good 10 or more former employees all feel it's worth risking lying on the stand just to get back at Wacko. I'd doubt it myself. Sure looks like the "pattern of behavior" is being strongly established. They even had a youth pastor up there the other day talking about what Michael did to him when he was young. I've lost track of how many of the former kids have now testified against him, but the number's definitely starting to add up now.
I hope they nail his ass (yes, I'm assuming he's guilty), and that he doesn't get off ala O.J. and Robert Blake. So two cheers for celebrity justice! :P
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So have you guys been following Wacko Jacko's trial? Man, he's getting his ass nailed left and right every day now.
Hey, that actually may be in his future as well.
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I doubt that the jurors will find him guilty. I feel t his way becuase of what I heard on the radio yesterday about a few of the jurors joking about one of the accusers of Jackson. A couple of reporters and a balif supposly heard one of the jurors comment to a few others "bowho Michal Jackson tickle me", and the other jurors laugh at that. A few other time it seems the jurors aren't paying attention to testimony from the accusers.
I hope these reports are not true since it sounds like Wacko is a child molester who prays on children. I hope that DCS in that county removes his kids even if he is found inneconet of this crime.
I've lost track of how many of the former kids have now testified against him, but the number's definitely starting to add up now.
I think it was just two kids that have testifed about being molested, the kid in this case and the youth minster. All the other people who have been estabilishing this image of Jackson have been either witness to incidents or parnets or kids.
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I think this about sums it up. (http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/contentPlay/shockwave.jsp?id=cop_feel&preplay)
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Did you guys see the Michael Jackson animated skit on SNL this past weekend? Holy ****, that was a classic! If they're gonna start doing those on a regular basis, I'll be inclined to watch more often. Ripped him a new one all over the place. Hope he caught it! :P
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Verdict to be read in 10 minutes -
Guilty or not?
He'll get off - no pun intended.
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Not Guilty on all 10 counts.
Kevin
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Not Guilty on all 10 counts.
Kevin
Sweet! ::)
Why do they even have courts in California?
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Because Matt Colman lives there.
Kevin
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I'm kind of shocked....I thought they would've convicted on the freak factor alone!
I guess the accusers just were not believable.
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How about at least giving the kid alcohol
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I knew he would get off. There's no working legal system in California. If OJ and Robert Blake can kill people and get away with it, there was no way Michael Jackson was going to be found guilty of molesting kids.
Its really sick, but maybe they'll get him next time he ruins some kids life.
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ANother wack jury in this state that doesn't believe the child. Hopefully this doesn't end up like another recent case in this state. I guess we will be seeing this type of a case again with Wacko in another 10 years. Hope that old lady juror book flops big time.
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Why do they even have courts in California?
So the defense lawyers can make a ****load of money getting their guilty clients off. That's why.
I thought Wacko would get out of most of the charges even though he's probably guilty (ala O.J. and Robert Blake), but I thought his ass was nailed on the serving alcohol to a minor charges. Despite overwhelming testimony to that fact, he somehow got off on that too. I'd love to hear their reasoning on that one... ::)
Hopefully the freak is still completely ruined in the eyes of the public though. And hopefully all his creditors start making him pay off his debts, so the ****** will go into bankruptcy.
Celebrity justice at it's finest, once again...
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I hate to say it, because our jury system is one of the best in the world...but this is bull****.
My thoughts...where there's smoke, there's fire!!! He's had to deal with this before and I still think that ****tard is guilty. How can he possibly get off on all those counts?
Oh well, my world will continue, but I feel for any other kids who may enter his house.
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I knew he would get off. There's no working legal system in California. If OJ and Robert Blake can kill people and get away with it, there was no way Michael Jackson was going to be found guilty of molesting kids.
Its really sick, but maybe they'll get him next time he ruins some kids life.
We can only hope Phil Spector can get off too!
(http://wizbangblog.com/images/2005/phil_spector_052005.jpg)
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He's guilty in the eyes of the public, so he's still ******. I doubt anyone is willing to buy a new Michael Jackson album at this point.
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I knew he would get off. There's no working legal system in California. If OJ and Robert Blake can kill people and get away with it, there was no way Michael Jackson was going to be found guilty of molesting kids.
Its really sick, but maybe they'll get him next time he ruins some kids life.
We can only hope Phil Spector can get off too!
(http://wizbangblog.com/images/2005/phil_spector_052005.jpg)
Phil's going for the insanity defense, I guess.
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He's guilty in the eyes of the public, so he's still ******. I doubt anyone is willing to buy a new Michael Jackson album at this point.
In this country I think he is still ****** but around the world he will stay be strong. I feel sorry for his kids who may be next if he can't get any stuipid parents letting they kids over to Neverland.
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He's guilty in the eyes of the public, so he's still ******. I doubt anyone is willing to buy a new Michael Jackson album at this point.
They said the same thing last time he was tried though and his two albums since then sold well enough
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He's guilty in the eyes of the public, so he's still ******. I doubt anyone is willing to buy a new Michael Jackson album at this point.
**** - nobody was buying his crappy ass albums before the whole kiddie thing!
You can't honestly tell me that nothing was going on between the kids and Jacko in his bed - seriously, a grown man? does not sleep with children because he thinks children are the eyes of God or some ****.
I'll like to knock his nose into the dirt - literally.
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I feel sorry for his kids who may be next if he can't get any stuipid parents letting they kids over to Neverland.
Unless Jacko is completely insane (which he is), I think that's it for his sexual encounters with young boys. He's gotta know that was his last "get out of jail free card". So hopefully we can take solace in the fact that he's gonna be forced into celibacy for the rest of his life. I hope.
******* perverted freak.
Still love his (earlier) music though... :-\
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I don't know how much faith I have in the system (especially in areas like CA and the "media capitols") but I was not there and don't know if he did the things he was accused of or not. I would like to think he didn't do the things he was accused of... but I am not sure one way or the other.
Either way, this is how I look at it... I would rather him be found "not guilty" if he did do it than to be found "guilty" if he didn't do it.
I know that is not a great way to look at it, but seeing someone being found guilty when they are innocent is the worst.
Our legal system is still screwed up though. Murderers get off for killing innocent people... judges don't give the death penalty for a mass murderer... etc. How come so many say it's ok to kill an unborn baby, but not to kill a serial killer? Bah.
Anyways, if he's truly innocent (and he could be), then thank God he was not judged as being guilty.
:P
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I'll like to knock his nose into the dirt - literally.
What nose? He no longer has one...
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I just got an email from MJ. It said he's having a party at Neverland and to bring the kids for a sleepover.
;D
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I feel sorry for his kids who may be next if he can't get any stuipid parents letting they kids over to Neverland.
Unless Jacko is completely insane (which he is), I think that's it for his sexual encounters with young boys. He's gotta know that was his last "get out of jail free card". So hopefully we can take solace in the fact that he's gonna be forced into celibacy for the rest of his life. I hope.
******* perverted freak.
Still love his (earlier) music though... :-\
If he is truly a Pedophille then he will go after other kids since that is how people who have that "sickness" usually do since they can't resist those feelings. The only time I think he truly will get into jail is only when he decides to video tape the incident since all he has to do is say "He wants my money nothing happened when I was sleeping with him in my bed in our underwear as I was tucking him in".
Idiots is all I have to say for the jurors. I wonder how many pf them think he is a child molster but couldn't for whatever reason convict him for it this time.
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I thought, at the very least, there would be a mistrial - a hung jury that is.
I can't believe that every juror thought he was innocent.
>:(
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I can't believe that every juror thought he was innocent.
>:(
Let not be lost the difference between "innocent" and "not guilty".
And a guilty man going free is nothing new to this ****** legal system of our's. There is no justice.
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My Dad's a psychologist and regularly works with pedophiles. He's been watching the Michael Jackson thing for a few years now and paying close attention.
He's convinced of Jackson's guilt and says that he exhibits all the basic signs.
Which is good enough for me to be convinced.
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There is no justice.
I hear that.
Whatever happened to actually punishing those who commit crimes? No, instead we put them in a stone hotel, and give them a cable package better than mine, and I wind up paying for it. ::)
Kevin
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What else do you suggeste? And how do you plan on implementing this new better system? I welcome it.
I can't say I thought Michael Jackson was innocent on any charge, except for making Alcohol easily available to Minors....Hell...If I wanted anything, I know it's above the oven in the house, and I could easily snatch it, so that one really didn't phase me.
On the charge of sexual conduct with a minor...I just don't know. I'm sure he wants to mess with kids, but if he didn't, which they did not prove he did, then there is no crime to be punished, in my opinion.
On the argument of the current prison system...Michael Jackson would have, if guilty, been going to the same prison as Chales Manson and the guy who killed Bill Cosby's child. This troubles me, as I think there should be different prisons for different crimes, and these prisons are to be feared. Prison should not be an option in someone's mind. It should be a place of detention, not relaxation. Sure, it sucks missing out on life around you, but it may only be 4 or 5 years away. Maybe it'll be 20 or 25 or even life, but it's not the hard labor that I belive would deter crime, more so thant he current prison system. Americans (me) should be ashamed of the prison system we have, but in no way do I suggest a transgression to the prison systems of previous centuries.
On the legal system. I really don't know much about it...in terms of change. I know that if you commit a crime, you should be punished for it. I do keep in mind though, that there were horrible crimes committed against the blacks not so long ago, however legal the judicial process was. It's this abusal of power that angers me, since it has warped the legal system today. I wish I knew more about law, so I could argue the point further, but I don't, so I'd better stop now before I say something naive, that I'll regret.
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(Something similar to this was said by someone else in some other forum on another one of the internets, but it bears repeating).
If I have learned one thing from the US Criminal Justice System, it is this: In California you can murder your wife and/or molest children and it's apparently all perfectly legal.
THANKS CALIFORNIA! :P
What will happen now? I would bet hard cash on Uncle Pervy selling his ranch and moving out of the country so the US can no longer "wrongfully persecute" him.
I figured there was no way he would go to jail, even if he would have been found guilty, and would have probably attempted suicide within five minutes of being left alone. If he did actually go to jail, he would be very popular as pedophiles and child molestors and rapists are among the most hated groups of prisoners amongst other prisoners. The fact that they get their hands on a famous pedarast rapist would just be icing on the cake. The "man in the mirror" would be Dr. Tiny giving MJ a colon cleansing with a pipe wrench. ;D
On the argument of the current prison system...Michael Jackson would have, if guilty, been going to the same prison as Chales Manson and the guy who killed Bill Cosby's child. This troubles me, as I think there should be different prisons for different crimes, and these prisons are to be feared.
Well, as I so uneloquently pointed out above, pedophiles and child molestors are often seen as the lowest of the low amongst actual prison inmates and they often end up being the you-know-what for the inmates who are the relative "rulers of the roost." It is my personal opinion, right or wrong (I certainly hope I'm wrong), that Jackson is a sexual predator whose release is an even bigger mistake than letting OJ off the hook.
I'm not a fan of the US legal system myself, where laws are enforced or not enforced because of the "who you know" aspects of justice in this day and age, but the fact that Jackson has been acquitted of all charges, more than likely because the defense got all his famous buddies to come in and slam the alleged victim's mother instead of trying to defend against the actual charges, says more than anything else about how the justice system only works for those who can afford to deal with it.
EDIT: Eye spel gud and I didn't want to be TOO off color.
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No no...you're entitled to your opinion...However you want to express it.
I disagree with you though...I believe that abusing life is not worse than destroying it. Michael Jackson and Charles Manson should be in separate places, not based on "who you know" but "what you did".
Although, Michael Jackson was found not guilty, so I guess the debate is over...until next time. :-\
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My Dad's a psychologist and regularly works with pedophiles. He's been watching the Michael Jackson thing for a few years now and paying close attention.
He's convinced of Jackson's guilt and says that he exhibits all the basic signs.
Which is good enough for me to be convinced.
Yeah all I needed to know is that he paid $20 million to the first victim to get him off his back. If I were innocent, I wouldn't pay one blessed cent, this much I know. On top of that, no adult gets in bed with a bunch of someone else's children for fun on some kind of regular basis. I'm not buying this argument that MJ is just "childlike" and doesn't know any better and that it's innocent and all this crap. Those 12 idiots have a combined IQ of about 100 for buying that one. He's a freaking child molester for sure, that was a slam dunk and he walked because he was a celebrity.
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I was discussing this with my mother tonight... The way I see it, it was a lot of "he said, she said" kind of stuff... Both sides of the court bringing out witnesses and such that implicate the other side as being wrong, but nothing that was solid or concrete enough for the jury to look at it without reasonable doubt...
So I think the jury just assumes he'll "pay" in a Civil Suit instead...
This was just a feeling I have, no real reason for it other than I look at Michael and wouldn't let my kids near him... I think he's guilty, part of me thinks the Jury thinks he's guilty but felt the weight of what they were deciding and felt he'll just have to pay out in Civil Court...
It's over, it wasn't overly interesting... Michael's still a freak, but ya gotta admit that Billie Jean and Thriller are some great songs.
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My Dad's a psychologist and regularly works with pedophiles. He's been watching the Michael Jackson thing for a few years now and paying close attention.
He's convinced of Jackson's guilt and says that he exhibits all the basic signs.
Which is good enough for me to be convinced.
The "art" of psychology has always intrigued me since I took a couple classes in college. If you get the chance, I'd love to hear the specifics (in regards to "signs") that your Dad observed.
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I don't know about anyone else here. I have a strong desire to go buy some doves and release them in the air. One for each count of not guilty.
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Although I guess I wasn't surprised that he got off, I did kind of think at least one of the charges would stick. It sounds as if there was overwhelming evidence of serving alcohol to minors, and somehow that one didn't go through either. It is ridiculous that this guy is going free. I really think that every one of us knows he's weird, and that it is pretty likely the child molestation happened on at least one occasion. With as crazy as he is/has been, I wouldn't be surprised to see this come up yet again in the future. Hopefully he's got some people around that are smart enough to keep him from having more "sleepovers". The more I hear about the trial, the more it sounds like this kid's crazy mom screwed this up.
It upsets me when they show his crowd of supporters celebrating outside the courthouse. First off (and this coming from a Star Wars fan), don't they have anything better to do? Like I told my wife...sure, there are Star Wars fans that wait in line for a long time to see a movie, but at least they are accomplishing something (seeing the movie). What are they doing, other than supporting a wack job they think is innocent? If someone that we followed, such as George Lucas...if you like him or hate him, if he was being tried for something that I felt he wasn't guilty of...I'd hope he got off, but I can guarantee you I wouldn't be standing outside of that courthouse with signs and chanting. That crazy ass that was releasing doves...yikes. Child molester or not, this guy is still weird, no doubt about it. These people treat him like he is the second coming, which isn't right at all. Anyways, not too happy about the decision, but I guess I'm not surprised.
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No no...you're entitled to your opinion...However you want to express it.
Oh, no...I wasn't disagreeing with you (I actually don't have enough information about separating prisoners according to crime in order to form a solid opinion on it), I was just pointing out the hierarchy of offenders in a lot of prisons. Personally, I think it would be poetic justice if Jackson went to prison and was made to be someone's "bitch", but it was based more on the prisoner dynamic as opposed to the prison situation itself.
I'm not buying this argument that MJ is just "childlike" and doesn't know any better and that it's innocent and all this crap.
The thing is that Jackson and his flunkies only make this claim when it suits their purposes. Most of the time he's described as a shrewd businessman, a multi-millionaire entepreneur, and (in some circles) an evil genius. It could also be said that he is intensely narcissistic, harbors delusions of a persecutory nature (e.g. everything that is said that does not praise him is automatically a conspiracy to make him look bad), and is more or less an all-around egomaniac.
The egomaniac claim (and some of you may not know this) comes from the fact that he, himself, "ordered" the media to refer to him as the "King of Pop" back around the time that double CD retrospective came out in the early 1990's. Kurt Loder (the old guy who used to and might still work for MTV) said that MTV received this memo from Jackson's camp stating that he must be referred to as "King of Pop" from that point on, and Loder said it was the most ridiculous thing he had ever heard and that he refused to do it. If you notice, Loder (and several others in the media who noticed the ridiculous nature of this request) still refers to Jackson as either the "Self-Proclaimed" or "So-Called King of Pop."
I don't see how someone who is so childlike and innocent and pure could have come up with that little draconian PR move, or how he could have stabbed Paul McCartney in the back by buying his own songs out from under him and then selling one of the Beatles' songs to market tennis shoes so he could make more money for himself. That doesn't seem like the kind of thing a "childlike innocent" would come up with to me.
And let's not even touch the whole cosmetic surgery/vitaligo (sp?) fiasco. If it's truly the skin disease, he has the most even and non-random case of the disorder that I have yet to read about. ::)
All this taken into consideration, my opinion is that he's a pedophile, a pedarast, a child molestor, a rapist, an evil genius who is only looking out for his own desires and lust for power, and who has a good portion of the public (like those people releasing doves and crying when he's found not guilty) fooled into thinking that he's this benevolent artist.
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He's got a painting of himself as Jesus at the last supper...
There's obviously somthing wrong with him, for that to be in existance.
Still...Thriller... :-\
Kevin
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He's got a painting of himself as Jesus at the last supper...
There's obviously somthing wrong with him, for that to be in existance.
C'mon. Everyone should have one of those.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/268293/last.jpg)
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Watch your back sfg, I think Judas is up to something!
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Not sure if MJ needs his own thread, but anyone catch the video of his Pepsi performance back in 84 that just got released? Holy hair's on fire! :o They're saying that's what started his prescription drug abuse.