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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Saga Legends => Topic started by: Jeff on February 1, 2013, 11:07 AM
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From spies at German Toy Fair from JediNews UK (http://jedinews.co.uk/news/news.aspx?newsID=10216):
Over in the Movie Heroes line, there is a new Vader card much smaller than normal with low-budget 3-3/4" figures that includes a tiny insert showcasing the character. Much like the Batman £6 line we saw last year. A new Ep3 Anakin figure was shown. This line is targeted towards kids on a budget. This line mirrors the budget Iron Man 3 and Ultimate Spider-Man lines that have already been seen but aren't out yet.
I guess that confirms the move to cheapo, $6/5POA style figures for the Movie Heroes line.
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So, will there be three 3 3/4" lines or just two? Will Movie Heroes merge with the black series or go to its own Vader packaging? Will Mission series replace Movie Heroes?
This would be a good series to release the battle droid from the MTT (not the rack ones, the "pilot" ones they've used in the Class 1 sets).
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I feel like those Batman figures were on two kinds of cards...mini-cards for places like 5 Below and the Dollar Store, and more standard size cards for Walmart, etc. I admittedly don't pay that much attention though.
So what will the line look be for the Clone Wars line post-Yoda packaging?
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So what will the line look be for the Clone Wars line post-Yoda packaging?
I think you should be asking...
So what will there be a the line look be for the Clone Wars line post-Yoda packaging?
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I know brother, believe me I know.
I can feel the Stark Fist of Removal hanging over everything right now...I'm bracing.
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The Legends have returned as something worse!
Yoda, Shock Trooper, Phase 1 Clone, Anakin (ROTS), Mace Windu, Super Battle Droid...
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I'm saying it now: I like them. No apologies.
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I'm saying it now: I like them. No apologies.
I'm actually with you. The figures do look really good. I'm planning to get Clones and Battle Droids for use as vehicle drivers and pilots. People can bitch and moan about articulation, but the price is right and the sculpts look very good.
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I'm saying it now: I like them. No apologies.
I don't entirely hate all of them. Yet. I mean, if they have hollow vinyl bodies I'll puke. (I do hate that it's come to this.)
The super battle droid is at least neutrally posed, and not that anger inducing one with the Yoda fighter set.
The price? Wasn't that long ago #41 clones could had at retail for $7 or $8.
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The price? Wasn't that long ago #41 clones could had at retail for $7 or $8.
I think I read somewhere that it's a $5 SRP? Or maybe I'm just dividing the $9.99 pricepoint of the mission packs. Either way I'm expecting that these figures will retail for $5-$6, since I saw similar Iron Man and Spider-man figures for $6 at Target yesterday.
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Yeah Greg, they should be $5.99 MSRP like the Iron man and Spidey figures.
I just got home and haven't had a chance to really look them over too closely. But at $6 each, I can deal with less articulation so I won't be surprised to find myself picking up a few army builders or other nice onese here or there.
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Good to know the price is $6. The only ones that are iffy at that price are the R2 droid and the especially diminutive looking Yoda. Hopefully Hasbro packs in some extra accessories, features, or articulation to improve the value of those two.
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Our pictures are starting to trickle into our image gallery. Here's a look at the Hasbro press images for the first wave of 2013 Saga Legends:
http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/Toy_Fair_2013/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Official_Images/Saga_Legends
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What R4 is that? Not the animated one right?
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R4-P17 from ROTS
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I've stated my hatred for these before but after seeing the pics, I might have changed my tune. I want some of those Clones and Battle Droids for army building purposes... I have enough posable ones, might as well grab some cheap neutral pose ones for "background" guys
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Why when you can probably get cheap Clones on the secondary market for less than $5-$6 a pop? Know what I mean?
Here's my take on this now that the dust has settled...
At $5-$6 each, I think the concept is fairly sound... I think the sculpts aren't as nice as they could be at that price, and frankly look a little like smaller versions of the 12" figures they're cranking out... This actually jives with something we've heard 'round these parts recently, actually. ;)
The lowered articulation on the figures sucks only from the standpoint that they're really sub-par quality. I don't need SA on everything, but better than that is possible even for $6 I think... at least waist joints and skirt pieces, but whatever really. It is a kid's line and so I'm not bothered by it too much... A cheap sub-line will help finance the collector line, just as LEgends/Clone Wars ultimately did for a while before, or Collection 1/2 have done in the past. The sybiotic relationship continues I guess.
These aren't anything I'm likely to buy unless, and honestly I hope it doesn't happen at all, they somehow slipped all new secondary characters in that I wanted. I doubt that occurs, as most of these I have a vastly superior version soemwhere in my collection already. Why care right? But I could see something sneaking in and making me cave...
And even then, at the price, I won't be too mad. I'd be more annoyed that it's a figure I want, but it was executed poorly because I think some of those sculpts are so-so at best.
The only other reason I'd buy, some of them look like ok fodder, but $6 fodder isn't worth it these days. These aren't for me, and I'm happy with what we have in the main line. WIsh we'd see it come down to $8-$9 and cut back on EVERY figure being Super Articulated (yeah, that's ME of all people saying this). Ditch ankle joints on anything but troops and "heroes". Even SOME secondary troops could do without just sculpt the foot/ankle neutral (no walking pose ankles... looking at you, Training Clone). Ditch the more complex ball-jointed torso almost all together at this point... It's great on some of the armored guys but really not needed anymore.
Either way, Legends hasn't really been my cup of tea since 2007 when I was almost all-in on it. A grand time that was... not financially though, as those years were costly from actually wanting to throw my money at Hasbro for all the greatness they put out.
Now, Legends is just easily skipped but I hope it's good for kids because kids make our collecting lives easier and more fun ultimately.
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Almost this entire line is a pass for me. The only thing that looked semi-promising is the Yoda. But I think that version is also included with the upcoming Republic Gunship exclusive.
The thing is.... I've been passing on Saga Legends or Movie Heroes or whatever else you want to call it for YEARS. And I don't feel bad at all for continuing to do so.
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Old Legends wasn't all bad. I bought the hell out of Snowtroopers and the good red Battle Droid 2-packs. If they'd made the VOTC stormtrooper available sooner, might have bought the hell out of him, too. Picked up some clones, too, now and then.
Since Hasbro is saying Black Line 3 3/4" will be all new, no reissues (I think they wrote themselves a check they cannot cash), where will we see figures we wanted to see again? Imperial Royal Guard? Are they gonna sculpt a new one from ground up? Or will a new head consitute "all new"? (Maybe they can put the old salt shaker in the new Legends line)
The lowered articulation on the figures sucks only from the standpoint that they're really sub-par quality. I don't need SA on everything, but better than that is possible even for $6 I think... at least waist joints and skirt pieces, but whatever really.
I agree about waists. Disagree about skirt pieces. They want the jedi to be able to sit in the vehicles. Skirt pieces hinder that unless they are cloth, which, IIRC, we've been told is more expensive than plastic.
I'm not sure these are finished sculpts. I'd hope the figures have ball jointed necks. Though I can see why if they did not, since kids rip the heads off and lose them, then complain about it because kids are stupid.
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I've heard Cloth isn't as bad as it used to be, but I'd have preferred it... or highly flexible ones which theyv'e done but can't seem to do consistently. The way they are, not attractive looking at all.
Some of the sculpts are decent, but I'd say, even with more articulation, the other line's have been vastly superior. There's more of a layered and dimensional quality to the more complex figures. These really remind me more of Kenner's, but to me Kenner's line is done and I don't really want anything like it save for some possible OT guys that didn't get a figure done at the time... and that's a stretch for me to want those even. I don't mix modern/Vintage well.
For my $, I'm happily passing on almost all Legends stuff and hope it just does well with kids for the line's sake.
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I doubt I'll be collecting any of these, but to the extent they're appealing, it's due to their Kenneresque quality. You can't go wrong with that. I really enjoyed the 3 packs from last year that featured this style and I have to say I enjoyed them a lot. Articulation is only as needed for me. I don't need every Cantina alien tricked out for instance. Obviously we'll never see Cantina Alien #15 in this line, so that's moot.
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Was it determined if the heads on these new figures are swivel or ball-socket type? I'm guessing swivel but it shouldn't matter either way from a manufacturing/cost perspective.
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Look be to swivel. Odd, last years battle packs had ball joint heads. I can only think they don't kids ripping the heads off and losing them. The other reason would be to replicate retro Kenner, which is a stupid reason. Hey, if you are gonna go that retro, change the hole size in their feet to vintage 70's, too.
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Like pretty much everyone else, a likely pass on the line from me too, but I understand why it is there. Although the action figure age range seems to be shrinking anymore with kids, I do think it is important to have "toys" that are out there for kids - and at a much more affordable price. I know allowance is higher these days most likely, but honestly, what kid could keep up with collecting a year of Star Wars figures these days (if they were available at retail even)? I mean, I wasn't a kid that kept up in the vintage days either, but I'm sure are those that could with 10-20 figures a year at $3 a figure. I like that there is a kid line out there, I'll be curious to see if it is successful or not. Do kids care, and if they do, will they think these look like crap next to the Black Series stuff?
I do think the Kenner-esque quality of them is appealing, and if/when they start hitting some OT characters I might bend a bit. I did pick up the Bespin BP last year, and really enjoyed those. It is easier to appreciate something like this when you already have a SA, superior version at home :). Like others have mentioned, I don't care if every figure is super articulated anyways. If they upped the sculpts on these to the best they could do (if they have to leave out all this articulation) I might pay closer attention too. Some of them looked kind of nifty. I remember there was a segment of people at one time who wanted "vintage - real vintage - styled PT characters", so I guess this is sort of like that.
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Jay, by my eyes those are old style swivels... Jocasta has the same thing going on. No clue why. Believe it's more aesthetically appealing maybe? That's the only thing I can go with for why they'd change it...
My only other thought is you can't pop the head off and lose it easily ala the ball joint. I agree though, it's not a cost issue.
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Via another website.
The 411: The First Wave Of Hasbro's New Saga Collection
Beyond the figures we saw in their showroom at Toy Fair last month, early assortments of Hasbro's 2013 Saga Legends collection will also include figures based on The Clone Wars Captain Rex, The Empire Strikes Back Boba Fett, A New Hope Stormtrooper, The Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader, and The Clone Wars Darth Maul. Stay tuned for images and additional information on these new figures. Only a couple of Bothans died to bring us this information.
Bothans need to stop dying for a toy series that will never make them. :(
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So would CW Rex be the realistic TVC version show previously? I thought that had more than 5 POA?
Clone Wars Maul had better be spider-legs or the vested, Mando-legs version, because we certainly don't need another carbon copy of the single carded animated version.
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Bothans need to stop dying for a toy series that will never make them. :(
A Bothan was in a comic-pack. ???
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Bothans need to stop dying for a toy series that will never make them. :(
A Bothan was in a comic-pack. ???
But what are the odds of them appearing in Saga Legends? Slim.
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Case listings show 2 R4-P17 per case. Wow. More popular than Yoda or Hasbro self sabotage! After they accumulate on pegs...Hasbor says "WE WON'T MAKE ANY MORE OBSCURE DROIDS BECAUSE THIS ONE DIDN'T SELL."
Also, 2 shock troopers but one Phase 1 clone. Why does someone at Hasbro love Shockies so much?
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s/b
1x 01 Mace Windu (Episode III)
2x 02 Clone Trooper (Episode II)
2x 03 Anakin Skywalker (Episode III)
2x 04 Obi-Wan Kenobi (Episode III)
1x 05 Super Battle Droid (Episode II)
1x 06 R4-P17 (Episode III)
2x 07 Yoda (Episode III)
1x 08 Clone Shock Trooper (Episode III)
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See some new Legends figs rumored on Scum's front page including Clone Wars Cody... THIS will have my attention even at 5POA... I'll customize. If I see a cheap Cody at the show this weekend I'm nabbing him just to have for a base for a Clone Wars version.
There are others in the list of interest... Chewie, Han, and apparantly a return to Battledroid 2-packs but I assume they'll be shoddy 5 POA sculpts.
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Won't these have old style POTF style necks/heads? A phase 1 Cody might be a pain to customize unless his helmet is removable. Assuming it's phase one.
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Eh, if it's easy to customize it's not always really a custom. :)
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I have to admit, having the OT characters included (especially Han/Chewie) has me a little more interested in this line. Not sure if I'll pick up any of those initial ROTS/AOTC figures, but unless the OT ones are horrible, I might be in on some of these. We'll have to see what they look like. Since we already have pretty great articulated versions of these already, it makes it easier to give a little more leeway to a line like this. Plus, it is nice seeing a $6 pricepoint on SW figures again, even if they are scaled back articulation-wise.
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If a figure's really stellar looking I'm open to it, but I mean I really have to see something stellar. Otherwise these are fodder to me, not much more. The price eases that pill enough, but I mean VOTC Han's good enough for me so would I want another Han that isn't as articulated? I'd need a higher articulation count, thigh strap, better headsculpt, removable vest... That's what I need for a new ANH Han to hit my shelf.
A 5 POA figure that maybe has a nice likeness and not much else improved, isn't gonna cut it.
Now, NEW figures... Even at 5 POA, like a CW Cody, would get my attention. Especially if they at least feature a removable helmet or something.
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Pre-Order at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSA3857A&id=JE-405087801)
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Carded pics of 4 of them at the 'Scum.
I've passed up 2011 Legends Shock Troopers for $4.99 at Marshalls...so why pay $6 for a 70's articulated one? Same with Super Battle Droid.
Yeah, yeah,...these are for the kids. Not the ones who stopped watching clone wars, who'd rather text and play video games. These are for ones barely out of diapers, since the kiddie aimed lines never take off (or get axed once they exhaust the characters, like Galactic Heroes) so make realistic figures that tots can't trash quickly.
Even knowing that, that astro droid is still lame. In 1995 they could give R2 his center leg without articulating his feet.
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I'm sure I'll skip theses. I haven't even picked up any of the 2012 less articulated figures, so why start now?
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Got my hands on a wave 1 case yesterday and like I said over in the mission series 2-pack thread - THESE FIGURES ARE ABSOLUTE CRAP.
On top of that, they didn't use enough glue to keep the bubbles on the card back so all you have to do to unpack these figures is to lightly tug on the bubble and it will come right off the card-back. I'm sure stores are going to be THRILLED by this new feature. Or maybe since they're only supposed to be $6, they won't care, who knows?
The Obi-Wan violates one of the tent-pole tenets that this line SUPPOSEDLY has - that the figures can hold their accessories. The cuffs of Obi-Wan's sleeves interfere with him fully gripping his light-saber. Great job Hasbro!
The sculpts of these figures are "great" only if you compare them to your 1977 Kenner figures and even then that's a horrible comparison since if you're like me, you look at those figures with a sense of nostalgia. These things are just new junk.
Since I only found 1 case, I bought a set to keep on card (I hope the figures stay on card) and the four extras to have 1 opener of each. I'll probably get the remaining four figures to open, but I will not be army building anything from the Legends/Mission Series lines.
So congrats Hasbro - you pushed me back to being a 1-on-card and 1-to-open collector like I was back in the beginning of this line - regardless of whether or not the figure is a new sculpt or an army builder.
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Thanks Pete, refreshing to read a non-Koolaid-drinking review of these. Some sites seem to think these are the shizz for some inexplicable reason.
Did you find them on the pegs or did you have to Jedi Mind Trick them out of the supply room?
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Did you find them on the pegs or did you have to Jedi Mind Trick them out of the supply room?
Jedi Mind Tricked them out of the back. The employee who helped me asked if I needed any assistance and I rolled the dice to see if he would help me.
He even made a point to say "well, these aren't out because they're not supposed to be set until August 4th, but let me test scan one and see if I can sell it" and then when he saw that he could, he was like, "okay, which ones do you want"
Quite possibly could have been the BEST interaction with a Target employee I've ever had.
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Thanks Pete... I concur with McMetal... These, to me, look terrible, and the reviews on the quality of the materials and designs take them even a notch lower.
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I'm passing on the whole Saga Legends line unless there's a figure that goes above and beyond. Given what Hasbro has publically said about this line, I don't think that's going to happen.
For years Hasbro has been trying to make Saga Legends/Movie Heroes/Etc a kid focused line. But they were doing that by re-issuing figures that had originally been offered to collectors. I think that methodology probably led to a good deal of confusion over Hasbro's plans/intentions for that line.
This designs of the figures in this new Saga Legends line seem poised to clear up the confusion from previous year's lines. The 5 points of articulation on completely new figures spell that out plain as day. These figures are disposable.
And then, take into account the play patterns of kids now. Kids today do not play like the kids of the 70's and 80's. They generally do not focus on a toy that they've had for 1 or 2 years, but 1 or 2 months. That short attention span is something that the toy industry recognizes. Witness some of the movie offerings from both Hasbro and Mattel over the past few years. A lot of those figures are very basic in presentation.
As with any new product offering, you can always state your position at retail. And if a product isn't to your liking, not buying it speaks volumes.
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Thanks Pete, refreshing to read a non-Koolaid-drinking review of these. Some sites seem to think these are the shizz for some inexplicable reason.
Did you find them on the pegs or did you have to Jedi Mind Trick them out of the supply room?
Wait wait wait. Sorry, but I find it hilarious that the review basically makes the figutes sound like the worst collectible ever, but then Pete still buys a full case of figures. Hiw is that not drinking the koolaid?
I found these at Target today and actually like them. Two figures for $10 and great paint jobs. They remind me enough of old skule vintage to keep me interested for now. I do agree on the crummy packaging though. I'll just be getting one set to open.
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Wait wait wait. Sorry, but I find it hilarious that the review basically makes the figutes sound like the worst collectible ever, but then Pete still buys a full case of figures. Hiw is that not drinking the koolaid?
I found these at Target today and actually like them. Two figures for $10 and great paint jobs. They remind me enough of old skule vintage to keep me interested for now. I do agree on the crummy packaging though. I'll just be getting one set to open.
Yeah - I guess it is. For me, it's just that they haven't YET pushed me to the point of abandoning what is now 18 years of getting one of every figure to keep MOC and one of every figure to open.
They're getting pretty darn close with this 5POA junk though...
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Wait wait wait. Sorry, but I find it hilarious that the review basically makes the figutes sound like the worst collectible ever, but then Pete still buys a full case of figures. Hiw is that not drinking the koolaid?
I recognize the irony, but you have to separate the review from the collector OCD. No matter how bad they made a Clone Wars figure, I would have bought it because I am a Big "C" Completist. I think Pete is the same way. He's committed, but he's not kidding himself about the quality of these things either. I respect that.
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My point is that if you truly don't like the product, but you buy it anyway then you basically blindly following whatever Hasbro dishes out no matter how crappy it is. In that sense you are absolutely drinking the koolaid. If these things rot at retail, they'll go away. If they get purchased, then we'll see the line survive longer. Hasbro cares about whether you BUY the product, not whether you LIKE the product. If people are just going to buyanything they put out, then they'll just continue to push out the lowest cost/highest profit lines.
Obviously people can buy whatever they want. I've got my own OCD issues with Star Wars completism, but if I ever catch myself buying lines of stuff that I really don't like then that's the day I need to check into rehab.
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Well, if it's any consolation, I saw these today at Target for the first time and I was happy to leave them there for the next guy. The only one I was curious about was the Shock Trooper but it did not impress.
Still no signs of them putting TVC on clearance, those are gonna be some crowded pegs in a few more weeks.
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I found these at Target this evening and picked up the Clone Trooper and Super Battle Droid. I haven't opened them yet, but at the very least they look good. If I like them I'll definitely pick up more, but once they hit sales/markdowns.
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I spotted these at Target this morning too and decided I'd get my hypocrisy out of the way early and snag some. I ended up getting R4-P17 and the Super Battle Droid. I haven't had a chance to open them yet but I was impressed enough with the Super Battle Droid that I figured he could be thrown in with the army. R4 I snagged due to a series of positive tweets from Jesse James and the fact that I am the one person on Earth who never saw the final wave of ROTS figures back in 05.
I can already tell R4 is kind of a rip off though. I'm pretty sure almost all Astromechs from POTF2 to POTJ had removable third legs along with their limited articulation.
The main characters look awful though. I noticed that Mace Windu had those awful eyes we've been getting lately with the giant blobs of paint. The Clone looked alright but kind of "fat" compared to the SA Clones due to the lack of ball joints.
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Only R2 that didn't that I recall is R2 with attachment tools from FF line... Then there's the "rolling" one and the light/sound one that have attached legs. I think a 3rd leg like the POTF2 figure COULD have been done... I'll deal without.
R2-B1 (I think that's its number) from E1 didn't have a 3rd leg either.
Most have always had though. Hell they even made a plug-in one in the droid factory playset.
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POTF R2's middle leg retracted, not removable, a few more were like that, too.
The terrible droid factory rescue R2-D2 didn't have a third leg or even movable legs. I think its feet were movable, though.
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Oh yeah but that was cuz of the line in him... he had some lame action feature.
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Oh yeah but that was cuz of the line in him... he had some lame action feature.
The pop out leg jets, actually. He did have the line, but that wouldn't affect the legs.
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He had 3 legs and they were "adjustable" (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/saga/0309.html) - outer leg ankles moved, middle leg dropped down to conceal the jets (once the flame were removed).
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You've won this round. ;)
Next Saga Legends wave isn't until February 2014. I figured being kid-aimed, like the old Legends series, they'd be slooow to refresh the assortments.
I will say the Stormtrooper almost looks appealing. But, heck, I still find the POTF stormtrooper enjoyable on some level, and I thought it was kinda lame back in 1995.
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How many ****** flying R2's did we get? Seems like a lot.
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I actually enjoy these quite a bit. The OT figures coming soon look great. Perfect updated vintage figures. That's where my wheelhouse is now and I would love more. Jedi Luke is great.
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An open message to the Star Wars collecting community website owners...
Can you please stop reporting how "amazing" or "excellent" the new 5POAS sculpts are? It's making you look stupid.
Thanks.
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I like the "I will army build these". All of the troopers offered so far have been available in the past, most of them frequently. Many of the Legends troopers you can get better versions of on ebay for often decent prices. So why suddenly, do $6 five-POA troopers seem so appealing? Is it because army builder collectors finally admit all they like to do is line up row after row of the same looking figures? That was impressive 10 years ago, now it seems like OCD.
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I'll never sit here and claim what is, for all intents and purposes, a regression in quality, is somehow great... The price is good (not great... $6 got you a lot more, at one point), but it's good. It's good for these apparantly busy children. It has its place IMO.
What it doesn't have a place in is replacing the collector-focused line IMO.
I also respect the opinion that these are "vintage-esque", but disagree 100% that they are.
Vintage sculpts weren't crisp, or detailed, or particularly accurate. If you want vintage-esque, I've seen vintage-esque customs, and they're actually kind of cool as an extension of the ORIGINAL line. These, to me, are just cheaper versions of modern figures. Sculpts are intended to look good, and new. So are accessories. So to me they fail in that mindset that they're an extension of the original vintage line in some capacity to me. They're, to me, nothing more than either POTF2-Level figures, or knock-offs even (from some of the reviews in terms of quality that I've read).
I'll nab some... The price will get me to get in on NEW stuff. But new only, and only if I really feel it's worth looking into. That Maul for instance... Vader's droid, maybe.
If they keep feeding a 3.75" Collector line with good quality, I'm fine. If they abandon it completely, and go with this, I'm thoroughly disappointed in Hasbro's strategy with the line at this stage of the game.
At this point, stuff like the Kmart sets and Black Series 3.75" figures still have my interest and I'm pretty happy with what it is. If I only got 20 collector figures and some cool exclusives a year even, and they filled in the rest with 5 POA's I barely pick up at all, great. I'm a glass half full guy that way. But these figures ARE a step back in quality... Not just in terms of articulation, but features, they lack detail, the plastic quality DEFINITELY seems to be lacking from what I've heard. They're priced right though for customizing even. So if it's new, it still has me looking at least.
I have my opinions on what I think would work, like everyone else. I think Hasbro's making some right moves. I think they need to make some more though, to really right the ship. We'll see. I still love the line and always will.
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I agree Pete...I also thought Hasbro was there for questions at the booth again but I guess that didn't happen
That said, I may pick up the Han/Chewie and R2/3PO sets...the likeness is actually pretty good. It just sucks that the "collector line" is so full of Prequel resculpts. I am looking forward to see if Series 3 rumors pan out.
Also...it makes absolutely no sense in saving information for CE...none
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I'm with you Scott... I think the Prequal stuff, it was done so they wanted to move it, so once we're over that hump I'm hoping for some OT love. If you're going to explicitly make so much of a point to say, "collectors are the only ones who want articulation", then start making OT **** over PT because you also are damn well aware that PT stuff is waning fast with collectors.
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I understand (somewhat) people's view that these are a step backward. I for one love the 5 POA Original Trilogy figures - to put it in context. Imagine if we would have got these in 1996 instead of the beefy/He-Man sculpts. People would have flipped their **** with excitement. And if they were on Vintage card backs....
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkdcv0alkm1qjwx5mo1_400.gif)
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Beefy He-Man sculpts kept me away from SW collecting for over a decade. I still consider those the most atrocious figures in the whole history of the line. So yeah, anything is an improvement compared to those.
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I was thinking of exactly what Jayson mentioned earlier today. If we had gotten these figures in the POTF2 days they would have seemed amazing. Granted, things have come a long way since then, but it does put things in perspective. Heck, I remember when a buddy of mine first picked up some POTF2 figures loose (from Brian's Toys I believe). We didn't start in right when the line started back up (I bet that was a fun time), and decided to pick up a bunch of figures together a couple years later. Granted, some of them were ridiculously beefy, but I remember getting that first Boba Fett (even though he was big) and thinking the detail was unbelievable (comparing it to vintage I guess).
For what these are, I kind of like them. I'm likely in for the OT figures, and I wish there were more of those coming early on. Granted, Hasbro couldn't avoid the whole 3D movie thing being dropped, but the first waves of these lines could really stagnate things at retail. I'm starting to think everyone (kids and collectors) have had their fill of ROTS and clones. As I mentioned in the other thread, I can appreciate these figures more because I already have more "ultimate" versions from past few years of VOTC, TVC, Evolutions, etc. Having a more affordable, durable option for kiddos (and collectors) is ok with me. I think Jesse mentioned it elsewhere, but I wouldn't mind having a "collector" line more limited in scope with 20-30 figures a year or something, that would be fine with me too. I'm starting to wonder if Hasbro isn't planning (hoping?) that eventually we'll just have this cheaper 3 3/4" line and the 6" line will become the "collector" line. We'll see I guess. Things may be in a holding pattern until the new movies start.
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I understand (somewhat) people's view that these are a step backward. I for one love the 5 POA Original Trilogy figures - to put it in context. Imagine if we would have got these in 1996 instead of the beefy/He-Man sculpts. People would have flipped their **** with excitement. And if they were on Vintage card backs....
That would have been amazing, though it didn't happen that way and I feel for collectors who are really into the articulation. Imagine if you had an Ipad back when you were in college instead of a spiral notebook or if you had Clone Wars style animation for the old Transformers or He-Man shows. Sure, that would have been mind-blowing back then, but reverting to them now that you've had a taste of the new seems pretty painful. Don't get me wrong - I like the 5pt style (for now). But I do have this feeling like we're ignoring a technological advancement with the loss in articulation.
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I mentioned it on Twitter Jay, but for me, if these had been what they are now in 1995, I don't think reactions would've been TOO different. People were buying then... Monkey Leia, hell, she was expensive beyond belief to the point Hasbro/Kenner put many more out.
I think they'd eventually have progressed in articulation, features, gone through the 2001/2002 pre-posed phase, etc.
I think the thing that would be different would be people would be looking back on those more fondly, and saying, "That figure still looks good". I think these look good in many cases. Not all though. Just some. I think Han looks pretty neat, I think the Clones don't look bad.
Like Justin said above me, it's like going from iPad to spiral notebook... maybe not THAT drastic but similar. :)
If these were sculpted to actually look vintage and not modern/realistic/detailed, I'd probably be into them actually. If they were honest extensions of Vintage figures from where 1985 basically left off, I'm quite sure I'd be into picking/choosing. OT for sure, some mains of PT figures I think.
Right now, when I see Han, I just figure my VOTC is better. When I see Chewbacca, I figure my EB or VOTC is better. When I see that Maul/Kenobi set, I get annoyed that I'm going to have to make that Maul what I want it to be, but at least it's not expensive to pick the base up.
My thought is what Brian said though... I think Hasbro wants 6" to replace the current $10 level figures in the 3.75" line, and feels these $5-$6 figures are more than sufficient replacements for people who still want to collect only 3.75"... It's like it took them to 2004/2005 (10 friggin' years) to actually get really good with the line and its features/quality overall, and then they're going to turn the hands back on the clock for different reasons.
Like I said, if they ran together I'm not as annoyed or panicked about it as I notice some folks are. I think it could help the "collector-focused" line even. But I'm not so sure that's always going to happen. I'm not so sure that collectors are going to have any more choice than low POA 3.75" or high POA 6", and nothing else. That, to me, sucks. That, to me, is the end of the majority of my collecting basically. Customizing fodder would be it for me at that point and I'd be very selective.
I can say with absolute certainty though, Hasbro feels their 5 POA figures are of the highest quality, and as good as the current $10 figures but for half that price. :-\ I don't care for that mindset they have if they can't see a difference like I think most collectors can agree, there is an obvious difference.
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As much as it pains me to say this, I'm not entirely hating this line. Sure, most of them look cheap, and I'd rather everything be Vintage-line level quality at $9 or $10, but the reduced price will be nice. At least Hasbro's constant need to have core characters on the shelf has something new to it now instead of just being repacks or repaints...
Plus, at the end of the day I don't play with these things. They get opened up and stood on a shelf and that's about the end of it for me. So, if the sculpts look great I'm still interested... If they could get them all up to the quality of this Luke I wouldn't have many complaints. I might be the only one, but as someone who prefers neutral poses, I think that's the best looking Jedi Luke they've done in 18 years.
(http://i.imgur.com/yH1LLYu.jpg)
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Yeah, I'm not a total hater of these figures either, Rob...
I don't really like too many of them to say I'm going to actively search for them - but I have to say, Hasbro's $6 Legends line looks like a hell of a better deal than their $10 Movie Heroes... and the thing here is, it actually looks like they put some effort into the kids line after how poorly they handled things with the 2012 lineup. All that was, was basically poorly chosen repacks, at an inflated price. These are NEW sculpts at a reduced price... much better.
So... why these don't exactly make me jump for joy, I'm surely not that upset, either. I find myself far more annoyed with certain other aspects of Hasbro these days than this new direction with the kid aimed lineup.
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I agree this is the best looking Jedi Luke they've really ever done. The TVC version is killer, especially the Deleted Scene one - I love it - but this is simply the best looking one portrait/sculpt wise. The same might be said of the Stormtrooper. I for one really like like the looks of these and look forward to the OT ones really. I'd be lying if I said I didn't want SA versions of Maul or future CW figures. But I don't think it's the end all be all for me personally. Like Rob my figures stand there and articulation for the most part is down to 1) can they hold their weapon with both hands if necessary 2) can they stand up? With these the inabillity for the Jedi figures to hold a saber is an issue, but I have so many that can. So it's new and different and doesn't destroy my wallet. That works for me.
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I finally saw the first wave of the new Saga Legends line tonight. Truth be told, the sculpts are not terrible. I actually like the Yoda and R4-P17, to be honest. But I know I don't need the droid, and I get the feeling that this Saga Legends Yoda may be the version that gets packed in with the TRU exclusive Gunship.
Are they still underarticulated? Going by 2007-2012 standards, yes. But the Hasbro Star Wars business model has changed, and they now have to focus on higher volume sales. That means offering a product line at a lower price point that will draw in more customers. How to do that? Cut costs. And do that by reducing articulation. Still, I was pleasantly surprised by the portraits/likenesses on the figures I saw tonight. And I get the sense that no, Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.
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I guess one can't complain about articulation. I bought my daughter a Despicable Me Minion figure with a whopping 2 points of articulation for $8. I guess us fans are too demanding.
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The analogy of the iPad back in college instead of a spiral notebook doesn't actually work, because the iPad technology didn't exist. The thing about these current figures, and people wishing that this is what they should have looked like in 1995, is that kenner/Hasbro was capable of making theses back then. What they did was make poor aesthetic choices (buff builds, causal accuracy, odd stances). In the creative arts, there is a huge difference between what one is capable of, and what one chooses to make. In 1995, they chose poorly.
I'm in the camp that Hasbro could have made these exact figures in 1995, and we would have gone totally ape****.
I'm liking these for what they are. I am missing deep character choices, and background characters, but these, to me, del fresher than the current Black Series.
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Preposed stances was action figure standard in the 90's at the time. Not that that's an excuse.
A lot of people went ape-shat over POTF2; we are in denial now. I had mixed feelings at the time, some "wow" (Fett, Tie Pilot), others "What are they thinking?" (Han Solo, Leia)
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I agree. I was very happy to get new figures in 95, and accepted the buffness as just a product of the times. However, it was pretty obvious that Kenner/Hasbro had judged the market wrong because those buff sculpts quickly became more realistically proportioned.
Water under the bridge...
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Likewise they progressed the line, gradually, to include new features, new articulation standards ever-increasing, new paint details and techniques, tampo designs, deeper crisper sculpting, sculpting styles to hide articulation, and so on.
These figures were here... they exist already, for the most part. Likewise, most of these exist in what people who like articulation better consider superior figures... I've seen people cite Jedi Luke, as superior to his vintage figure... he's not even out yet, but I really can't see that point of view. More power to a person, but that Vintage figure was damn near perfect in height, deco, detail, likeness... If anything I felt the new 5 POA figure looks a little too large and the face/hair details seem a little less than the TVC figure.
My interest stays that only "new" has caught my eye for the most part. That Rex, and Maul, are about it for me right now... And even then, I'd probably want to modify them into better figures ovearll, ultimately. Debating the Vader Droid still. These are just starting to surface here right now. The price is about good for what you get... I can't say great because you get so much less of a figure than you would with the $10 figure, but it's tough to argue that the price makes compulsive purchases easy enough.
Likewise it's easier to buy at $6 and not regret the purchase in theory, compared to $10 and feeling ripped off which the $10 price point certainly can make you feel that way sometimes about what you got there... With the Skiff Guard great. With a Clone I already have 30 of I was pretty happy with, not so great.
If this is how things go completely for 3.75" though, that will hurt... Took a long time for the line to get to a high quality overall level, where it is now, and I'd have a hard time filling in future new figures I really wanted that were so significantly inferior to figures I bought over the past almost 10 years. :-\ That's a direction I hope they don't go, though 2002 was a direction I really hoped they weren't going, and they certainly did, because of the same basic reasoning; Cheap + Kids.
Though I'd be completely happy to see the $10 Black Series stuff down to at most 30 figures a year, and maybe a little better character selection and fewer Clone repaints and Prequal do-overs... If it's a collector line, make it that, and focus on the OT primarily, maybe an EU bone now and then, few and collector-targeted PT figures (Office Duel Palpy), and slightly better, more collector-focused case-packs. If the 5POA figures do what they're supposed to, they should certainly cover any "slack" those wishes for the collector figures could create.
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I've seen people cite Jedi Luke, as superior to his vintage figure... he's not even out yet, but I really can't see that point of view. More power to a person, but that Vintage figure was damn near perfect in height, deco, detail, likeness... If anything I felt the new 5 POA figure looks a little too large and the face/hair details seem a little less than the TVC figure.
I guess for me, while it's a better toy, the ball joints look a little goofy to me... and his head looks too big. I think the face-sculpt is better on the new one.
(http://www.jedi-business.com/images/actionFigures/The-Vintage-Collection/The-Vintage-Collection-Luke-Skywalker-Jedi-Knight-Outfit_Big_2.jpg)
I don't think by any means that the new 'cheap' line is better than the high-quality counterparts across the board, but I think that new Jedi Luke looks more like the real thing, even if it's not posable and has less play value.
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I picked up the single carded figures last night. Oddly, the paint jobs don't seem as crop as the Mission Series stuff.
The only real disappointment is that R4 has no clicking done. I can live without a third leg, but I miss the clickity-click.
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Saw these first hand in KMart. Hard to believe I'm skipping a 3 3/4" line, but so far, I have refrained from picking up any of the less articulated figures.
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Guess they're getting their resets done and stocked!
Did you see any Black Series Anthony?
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I saw these at Target today and passed. I'll second the lousy paint job on some of them - just not very crisp. The packages/figures look incredibly cheap too - they could be getting $10 if they had vintage packaging instead of the flimsy dollar store cardbacks. I passed on them all. Mission Series 2-packs seem to be everywhere now too. I did not see any of the Black Series anywhere yet.
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It might just be a coincidence (or the lack of any product for so long), but our local Target store sold through the whole case of these except for one Shocktrooper in the first week they were on the pegs. Surprising, to me at least. Maybe the price is helping? Or maybe people are just desperate for anything. Our store didn't get any Black Series 3 3/4" figures, just put out an older TPM case of vintage figures. All the non-TPM figures (Hoth Luke, Vader, etc.) sold in a couple days and the TPM stuff is left swinging. I have to admit, if you were a non-collector and shopping for kiddos, etc and saw the two packs hanging there for the same price as the Black Series (or Vintage), it seems like a no-brainer for a gift giver. Anyways, it was interesting to see.
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Hit a variety of stores today on the way home from a long trip, and found that eye paintjobs on the Legends were almost universally bad... Lots of cross-eyes or one eye much larger than the other, which was funny how figures looked like they were raising their eyebrows.
The 2-packs seem to have better eye aps, which is weird that they do and the singles don't.
I really felt like only R4 looked decent... plain.
And while I saw tons of these figures and the 2-packs at every store I visited except Wal-Marts which hadn't reset yet, I was surprised to not see Yoda but a single one at a Target. All the rest were around in quantity... several falling off cards already, actually.
The 2-packs cards seemed better glued/put together as well. Go figure.
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Your right. The Yoda is the one I rarely see among the rest. I keep considering buying the R4 but keep putting it back. However, Kul Teska at TRU is down to $9.98 and still not selling after all these years.
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Hit a variety of stores today on the way home from a long trip, and found that eye paintjobs on the Legends were almost universally bad... Lots of cross-eyes or one eye much larger than the other, which was funny how figures looked like they were raising their eyebrows.
The paint jobs on the eyes remind me a LOT of the Indy figures. Horrible paint on the eyes for the first few waves until that factory figured it out. Wonder if there is the same sort of thing going on here with this line (new line, new price point, new factory/specs).
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Yes, that's a good analogy... Like the Indy line, with Indy in particular being the worst at that time. I didn't see a single good one practically at all. One or two maybe acceptable, but not much more. I found an Indy I liked eventually at least. :)
I didn't notice it as bad on the 2-packs but they too had issues...
I'm still staring at that Vader droid wondering what I should do.
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Carded Wave 2 images (http://www.forum.starwars-figuren.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=538)
No Luke or Kenobi shown. Love the paint detail on Fett's jet pack. :P
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Has wave 01 even shown up yet?
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Yes
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I haven't seen any 6"... any Legends, and only about 3 Black Series figures. I'm not running all over town, but over the last few weeks I've been to a few stores and it's non-existent.
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Carded Wave 2 images (http://www.forum.starwars-figuren.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=538)
No Luke or Kenobi shown.
That is because they are part of wave 3.
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Peg warming here... Wave 2, I actually would buy stormie to cast the helmet, Boba to cast it, and Rex x2 to custom into a poseable version. :/
Right now tons of wave 1 here.
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I spoke about 5 hours too soon... wandered into a Target after work and found the whole wave.
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Big Lots carrying them for $5 each. 20% off purchases tomorrow for card members. $4 might not be too bad.
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Got a pair of the new SL Stromtrooper from overseas yesterday, and I have to say this is my favorite modern Stormtrooper hands down:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/darb/56F6B2B0-C3F1-4042-8A63-E85DCB929979-7591-00000C764A5417A7_zpsadfc52a0.jpg)
He doesn't have the articulation, but I have ones that do, and it's the best sculpt they've ever done. Especially the helmet. Also got Luke, who also is my favorite Jedi Luke so far, sculpt wise. I love the approach on these figures. Hopefully the trend continues!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/darb/DE42138C-DAD0-4247-8AD1-312E1FD02DBB-7591-00000C7643551DF2_zps4cba16df.jpg)
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I ordered Wave 2 (Boba, Rex, Cody, and two Stormies) online for $6 apiece. While I'm not in love with this line, I do like them, but I also didn't feel like wasting time hunting for these new figures. The Stormies look great in pics online, so I'm curious to see if that holds up in person. And finally, a realistic Rex at long last! ::)
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I'm hoping to nab a REx to customize, but that's it.
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I need a Rex too. WTF is the hold up on this wave? And the next wave of Mission Series 2-packs? How do they expect to move these after Christmas?
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I think the hold up is what they have out there now... These have been selling here slowly over the holiday, but slowly, and they don't generally see steep discounts except that BOGO dealio at TRU this past week.
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Scored 10 of the 5 POA $5.99 stormies at HTS, I have to say the helmet sculpt is very very nice. I had to behead one and mod the head onto an SA body. This is the result:
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1522219_10202057200744590_2124256284_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1468592_10202057202744640_272674962_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1525667_10202057204864693_596718329_n.jpg)
As someone who always thought the previous Stormtrooper helmet sculpts were tremendously flawed, this is basically a dream come true. PS the mod on the head took 5 minutes tops.
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Well, I finally saw Wave 2 on the pegs today at TRU and wouldn't you know it, the only figure I wanted was already gone, so no Captain Rex for me. That is one nifty looking Stormtrooper though...
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Might be worth molding and casting the helmet with a mod but it'll cost so I doubt I bother for a while. Bumps the Stormtrooper up to a fig I might care about now tho.
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These look great, and I just enjoy this line for what it is.
However, if these things had been on Vintage style cards, but the size of the new Vader card, this line would be amazing.
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Darth Maul and Snowtrooper revealed (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2014/01/15/new-saga-legends-maul-and-snowtrooper/)
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I'm diggin' that Snowtrooper. It seems to have an animated vibe. Perhaps the character will appear in Rebels and this sculpt repacked in the toy line?
Maul is definitely redundant. I already have the Movie Heroes version, so this new sculpt will have to be a significant improvement for me to even consider getting it.
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LOVE the snow trooper. He'll go great with the commander.
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It seems that everyone who likes this line wants a few Stormtroopers. I hope Hasbro notes this and releases a Mission Series set with A.) Two Stormtroopers. B.) A Stormtrooper and a new TIE Pilot, or C.) A Stormtrooper and a new Death Squad Commander.
I'd love sets like that.
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I like best the saga legends snowtrooper for 2014.
However it lacks paint applications on soles of boots and pouches
the sculpt justifies its purchase.
I agree with a pack of empire soldiers, but perhaps
Hasbro could complete the paint job and varies it a bit;
for instance, making lenses of snowtroopers and stormtroopers green. ;)
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Found what looked like remnants of Wave 2 at a local grocery store this afternoon. Boba Fett, Rex, Mace Windu were the only ones I saw. I think the ROTS Obi-Wan is new too, right? If so, they had that one too. I might go back and snag the Fett for use with the Big Slave I.
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I have found all of these, except the Stormtrooper. Most of them are pretty nice. I'm shocked that R2 doesn't even click when turning his head. However, the Han figure is one of my favorite figures ever. There's just something so dead on about him. I think its the angle of his wrist. To make his gun level, he has to raise his hand above his shoulder, and it is very, very Han.
It's a friggin' shame that Hasbro didn't make the 1995 figures like this. There's nothing on these that could not have been done back then, they just made bad aesthetic choices with the muscle-men figures.
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It's a friggin' shame that Hasbro didn't make the 1995 figures like this. There's nothing on these that could not have been done back then, they just made bad aesthetic choices with the muscle-men figures.
I thought the same thing when I picked up the Han/Chewie and Droids packs, if these had been the figures in 1995, people would have really been going crazy for them (which happened anyways I guess, but it still would have been cool). I happened to find the Stormtrooper at TRU today, and that figure really is pretty nice. Low articulation and all that, but otherwise, it is a pretty sweet trooper. Still on the lookout for Boba Fett at some point, but I think I'll continue to try to pick up all the OT characters. Fun figures for $5.
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Went out to Walmart to see if this story about them clearancing SL already is true....only one store around here even carried them to begin with. I did indeed see the $3 clearance tag, but they still rang up at $5.88. So I just got them to price adjust at the register by showing them the tag and walked out with a $3 Shock Trooper.
Wish they would get that Wave 2 in at those prices...
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I was lucky enough to find pretty much a full case of SL Wave 2 at my local Target tonight, along with a bunch of the Mission Series 2-packs. I walked out with a shiny new Captain Rex as my reward. This was the last 3&3/4" SW thing I had on my radar for 2014 until the Rebels stuff comes out. Happy to be caught up...
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Found quite a bit of SL wave 2 at target and TRU in the last two days. I pretty much like them all though I do think this boba fett is a miss. The one in the three pack was better IMHO. Didn't figure id like Rex and Cody but found them both pretty neat.
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Found the Boba Fett at Target this weekend, not too bad of a figure. Again, as with all of these, I don't judge them as harshly since I'm only paying $6 each (or $5 for the two packs), but they aren't too bad. I find it fun keeping up with the OT characters anyways. Again, if these would have been the POTF2 figures we had gotten, I think we would have been out of our minds with how detailed things were, but a lot has changed in action figures since '95.
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Only new figures for the non-Rebels Saga Legends Basic Figures were Maul and Snowtrooper and both of those leaked early so I didn't really reshoot much on them.
Did get a few shots (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/Toy_Fair_2014/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Saga_Legends_Basic_Figures) though...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2014/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Saga_Legends_Basic_Figures/DSC_0045.JPG)
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The sculpt on that Snowtrooper looks pretty good. I think this is the first Legends figure I'm actually interested in.
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Are any of you guys finding the Jedi Luke? I haven't seen that or the Fett at all.
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The Snowtrooper looks amazing and I plan to buy a few of him. Maul even looks pretty good.
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I've seen the Saga Legends Boba Fett along with Cody and Rex at retail. But no Lukes yet.
The new crop of Saga Legends really do LOOK good. The sculpts are pretty awesome. That Snowtrooper particularly. And truthfully, I can see how these figures might appeal to a particular niche of army builder. Why? There seem to be some army builders who want to build action scenes, and that's where super articulated figures are great, because you can pose them any which way you'd like.
But I see SO MANY army builders who are doing a massive display of what are essentially troops on review. Like the scene from ROTJ where the Emporer arrives at the Death Star. That particular scene seems to have inspired many an army builder in their display work. The 5 POA Saga Legends Imperial figures seem almost perfectly suited to this kind of display. They're neutrally posed at attention. And they're more economically priced for buying in bulk. Especially when you look at the pricing of a figure like the current TBS Scout Trooper at $9.99 a piece.
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Thanks Nick, I was wondering if it was too early... I've seen the Stormtrooper twice too.
I'm in that group that just lines everything up. No action sequences for me, the more neutral the better. I'm not really looking to buy extra troops anymore, but the completely neutral poses of the Legends stuff doesn't bother me if the sculpts are good. I still hope that they keep doing the articulated figures at the higher price point, because they're just better toys overall, to me at least.
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Another question about the Luke... I saw these two images in the Hasbro presentation slides:
(http://i.imgur.com/GUJpXOB.jpg)
Is that a variation? One Legends and one from a Mission Series that I don't know about? Did one replace the other?
What am I looking at here?
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The one on the left is the SL figure, the one on the right is the 12" Shampoo bottle "Hero" figure. Neither are out yet.
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Ha. Okay. Thanks.
With them being so similar in articulation and without anything for scale I had no idea they were even different sizes.
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With them being so similar in articulation and without anything for scale I had no idea they were even different sizes.
That's NOT what she said.
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Anyone have a comparison shot of the stormtroopers blaster to the one we have been getting for years now? Saw the figure at a friends but would love to see a side by side comparison of them. Pretty sure the Legends gun is new and better.
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Anyone have a comparison shot of the stormtroopers blaster to the one we have been getting for years now? Saw the figure at a friends but would love to see a side by side comparison of them. Pretty sure the Legends gun is new and better.
I can snap a pic tonight Jesse. I noticed that the new blaster is slightly larger but I am not sure if it is more detailed.
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Thought I saw a trigger and a pice on the back cylinder that looked better. I'm definitely curious now.
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Better late than never? Sorry about the delay, and for the photo quality! Here is a comparison pic with the normal and Legends Stormtrooper Blasters:
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f328/mister_palpatine/IMG_0461_zps17216873.jpg)
Also a pic of a normal Stormtrooper with the Legends gun:
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f328/mister_palpatine/IMG_0462_zps8d4eb3d8.jpg)
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Wow that's significant. More than I thought.
Probably would work even less in the existing stormie holsters than the current blaster does (it's passable, for me), but yeah, that's a nicer sculpt. More crisp, has a trigger (no guard still, goofy as that is), and it's a slightly better scale ultimately. I'm fine with the one we have, but I'd love to see more of that one.
Since I got so many K-Mart sets I have so many of the fold-up stock one that I'm pretty well set on those for my life. :-X
This one looks the best I think. Would love to see it surface more. I always love when Hasbro makes new, better guns. Like the new one TVC Bespin Luke has... Love better scale, detail, and quality, when they can.
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I found and picked up the Stormtrooper, the first of these 5 poa figures I've purchased. It is amazing how this helmet just looks right.
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Who's found Fett so far?
He's available on Amazon for $14, but I haven't seen him anywhere. I'm wondering if it's worth it to just pay double what he'd cost in the store to be done with it...
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I've seen several of times. Don't pay that - I could pick one up for you if you want on my next sighting.
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Who's found Fett so far?
He's available on Amazon for $14, but I haven't seen him anywhere. I'm wondering if it's worth it to just pay double what he'd cost in the store to be done with it...
I have an extra loose and carded Fett at cost if you want one. It's definitely not worth paying double for Fett, or any 5poa figure for that matter.
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Who's found Fett so far?
He's available on Amazon for $14, but I haven't seen him anywhere. I'm wondering if it's worth it to just pay double what he'd cost in the store to be done with it...
Don't do it. I've only seen one so far, but it was at TRU. They're out there. Don't spend $14 on a $6 figure.
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Don't pay that
It's definitely not worth paying double for Fett, or any 5poa figure for that matter.
Don't do it.
Don't fall into peer pressure, Rob. Go buy that $14 figure! Do it!
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I have an extra loose and carded Fett at cost if you want one. It's definitely not worth paying double for Fett, or any 5poa figure for that matter.
I'd definitely be willing to take one of them off your hands. I'd be opening him anyway, so loose would be fine. PM me if you want to move one. I missed a few of the older Legends figures like the Sandtrooper, so I'd rather not mess around with these ones.
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Don't fall into peer pressure, Rob. Go buy that $14 figure! Do it!
Middle ground... I'm going to dump a few bucks into shipping and take one off of Greg's hands.
Now I've got $5 burning a hole in my pocket.
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Don't fall into peer pressure, Rob. Go buy that $14 figure! Do it!
Middle ground... I'm going to dump a few bucks into shipping and take one off of Greg's hands.
Now I've got $5 burning a hole in my pocket.
This will help with that $5:
http://www.fivebelow.com/
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What is that, the dollar store adjusted for inflation?
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What is that, the dollar store adjusted for inflation?
Basically, yeah.
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I'm not quite sure which thread to put this in, but I found a couple Legends Snowtroopers today at a (Canadian) Walmart, the first time I've seen anything new for quite a while.
I haven't bought anything from the Legends line (except of course Vader) because of my dislike for the 5 POA in these figures, but I certainly like the nice sculpt of this trooper.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/IMG_0781_zpsca2db300.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/IMG_0788_zps42cccd76.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/IMG_0789_zpscd0501f6.jpg)
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Uck. Really, Hasbro? I may have liked the sculpts on some SL figures like the 501st Clone in the Mission Series 2-pack, or the basic carded Stormtrooper. But this Snowtrooper reminds me of a terrible mashup of a vintage Kenner Snowtrooper and the 2006 TSC Snowtrooper. Not a fan.