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Collectibles => The Vintage Collection => Topic started by: Mister Skeezler on May 6, 2011, 02:43 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but I noticed an article on the front page of RS about a new Y-Wing for the Vintage collection. Unfortunately, the pics show that same underscaled version we've gotten in the past.
For the people who have the Clone Wars Y-wing, is the scale the same, or was that a larger ship? I'd love to see a correctly scaled (or at least closer to correct scaled) Y-Wing before the modern line ends.
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I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but I noticed an article on the front page of RS about a new Y-Wing for the Vintage collection. Unfortunately, the pics show that same underscaled version we've gotten in the past.
For the people who have the Clone Wars Y-wing, is the scale the same, or was that a larger ship? I'd love to see a correctly scaled (or at least closer to correct scaled) Y-Wing before the modern line ends.
Those photos are representational and the box mockup (which Toy Palace ripped off) was done by a customizer (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=11574#p11574). There is a new Y-wing in the works.
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In past Q&A's, Hasbro also said they were going to do another Y-Wing but that it wasn't going to be all-new, just retooled... That's been a while however.
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That is the lame old oversized Xwing Pilot isn't it?
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I'd prefer an X-Wing.
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If there's a new pilot, I'll buy it. I'm a sucker that way.
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I for one would LOVE to see Hasbro offer this re-vamped Y-Wing in the same fashion as the Target exclusive Snowspeeder in vintage style packaging. Revisiting this package with the new version of the Y-Wing and the modern renditions of these figures would be AWESOME!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/darklord1967/CUSTOM%20STAR%20WARS%20Action%20Figures/VINTAGEY-WINGFIGHTER.jpg)
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Complete with Admiral Ackbar in the cockpit? ;)
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If it's true I actually do not mind this not being a 100% new tool as it would render the 3 I have obsolete. I spent time and money upgrading my older version with the neer canons and windows from the TAC version. I really like my current fleet especially the OTC version. If this was 100% new I would want the Holiday Special double cockpit version.
Having a working droid socket and an upgraded cockpit with detailed controls is welcome. I hope I can buy extras of it to further upgrade my older ones further. Keep on bringing more OT products, I am really bored of prequel era stuff!
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Complete with Admiral Ackbar in the cockpit? ;)
Absolutely keep Ackbar on the packaging. I think if there's a new pilot, then stick him in the cockpit - that's one detail they could change. But I'd love to see the rest of that original character lineup on the package. You could probably substitute General Lando for the TESB Lando, too.
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That's actually one of my favorite things about the (true) vintage packaging...the weird combinations of characters. It reminds me of the old ads you'd see in places like the Sears catalog, that would have ridiculous combinations of characters...ahh, nostalgia!
I would be psyched to get an updated, larger scale Y-wing, but I see your point JACKOFTRADZE. Maybe it will be similar to what Hasbro does with the TIE fighter, putting out small and large wing versions.
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I'd be happy if it just had working landing gear...
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I'd love to have an OT Y-Wing in my collection, but Hasbro would need to do it right for me to buy it. Fingers crossed on this one...
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The CW Y-WIng is actually the proper scale for an OT Y-Wing (might have to factor in the guns as part of the length though, not sure). That makes it completely plausible they could do a "BMF" Y-Wing obviously, and do it perfectly sized... That'd be neat to me.
However, it's probably not likely to happen this time around since all indications have been from Hasbro that they weren't going to do a new OT Y-Wing, just modify the sculpt they already had. That was an old Q&A though now I think, so maybe things changed? I just doubt it though.
Are the "rumors" laying claim to it just being a reworking of the original sculpt? If that's the case, isn't that just pulled from the Q&A's then, since the ship turned up in European TRU computers, and not "rumor"?
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The Y-Wing needs the BMF treatment for anyone to be that interested in buying it. That is the only way I would buy it and am sure others feel the same way. Make it the same size as the CW version and I'd be all into it.
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I've been waiting for a chance at the classic Y-Wing for a while after passing on the 30th AC version a while back due to lack of funds. I look forward to seeing it, I'm good for BMF treatment or even just the retooling. Hopefully it comes with a droid.
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Hate to burst some bubbles but this may be referring to this now up for preorder at BBTS
Rebel Pilot & Y-Wing (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS20571&mode=retail)
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Interesting its only $19.99 from a scalper store.
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This could be a mis-named or unseen product rather than the full-size Y-Wing that has been rumored. A mini-rig Y-Wing might be neat.
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Scalper store? ???
I'm really intrigued. $19.99?
I can't say that I'd agree that a Mini-Rig Y-Wing would be neat, but I'm open to whatever it is they're going to do here. When pics surface, I'll bail on it if it sucks I guess.
I was just pondering last night "Deluxe Fig w/Vehicle" sets from the OT Though. I'm pretty well locked into getting these new mini-rigs that are all made up here. I liked them more and will just remove some of the dumber looking stuff like 30 blasters on a vehicle the size of a moped by Star Wars standards.
Some OT ideas might be neat... I liked stuff like the MLC3 back in the day. Completely feasible as a small basically mobile gun... Like a .50 rolling around on a platform. Stuff like that was always cool to me.
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WTF? (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-VINTAGE-Y-WING-FIGURE-/190536752633?pt=AU_Action_Figures&hash=item2c5ce01df9#ht_500wt_1156) - someone trying to pull a fast one or the real deal?
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Looks real to me, including the TRU exclusive sticker. Australia gets everything first so I'm not sure everyone is doubting this. I wish the POTF2 Nien Numb was a resculpted one. I like it!
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/4767_89dbbb159ffaf7f87207d71255b1daad6447812e)
Some thoughts...
A) That's a pretty elaborate hoax for the box and the vehicle. The paintjob's fairly elaborate for what it is, and the box is clearly a really elaborate attempt. Plus it's not easy to fake boxes with anything but photoshop. That doesn't look photoshopped to me though.
B) That jives with what Hasbro said... There's some cockpit retooling, maybe gun/droid socket retooling, but otherwise it's barely been modified. I'm not impressed if this is the final item though.
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I wonder how accommodating the droid socket is considering the different molds out there for astromechs now.
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Just looking at the image, and assuming the thing is legitimate, there's gaps at the shoulders there on what looks like it could be the new Bar2-D2 figure in the cockpit. It may work with multiple droids then, but that Bar2 is a little smaller too... I don't know.
You'd think that'd be the one thing they'd definitely want to tool differently, so it accepts the multitude of droids that are out there.
Unless this comes with a really awesome figure, I'll be passing. I'm really disappointed in what this ultimately turned out to be. That mold needs tossed and a "BMF" style Y-Wing done. That and the X-Wing really need big upgrades to make them to-scale and look right with the BMF TIE Fighter.
I'd laugh if the figure it comes with is Ackbar... the guy's tired of taking the helm of the big slugs and wants to get his hands dirty now.
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I don't think it comes with any figures judging buy the "Action Figures Not Included" call out on the box. :'(
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Whoops, I was going by the title assuming it was still coming with one...
Though I still think that may wind up being some kind of Deluxe Figure w/Vehicle too. $19.99 is too cheap for the above box, but on BBTS that's just about right for Deluxe... Clone Wars pilot with a mini-rig of some sort? Maybe mislabeled or something?
Just a thought.
Vinty Y-Wing though, no figure I guess. Kind of makes that BBTS listing allt he more interesting.
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I'd laugh if the figure it comes with is Ackbar... the guy's tired of taking the helm of the big slugs and wants to get his hands dirty now.
Yeah, that's being true to the figure selection on the Kenner box. Maybe a bit too faithful!
That POTF Nein Nunb...really glaring reminder about how much a new one is needed.
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The lando's a little weird too. Did they slap the vinyl cape on him? Odd choice to go that route if that's teh case. Or is that the POTJ Lando? It doesn't really look like VOTC Lando.
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Looks like the POTJ version with the cape collar flipped up pimp style :P
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Maybe a little underwhelming, but it might be just enough for me to pick up an opener.
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It looks like there's an exclusive seal in the upper right hand corner. I saw one of those on the B-Wing, too. But in this case I can't make out the retailer on this one.
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I am actually happy it's not a 100% new tool that would render the previous versions obsolete. I will buy a couple of these to upgrade the cockpits and other parts on my previous ones. It's nice to see the return of the droid socket!
Great package too! Demand for Ackbar will be through the roof when this hits! ;)
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It looks like there's an exclusive seal in the upper right hand corner. I saw one of those on the B-Wing, too. But in this case I can't make out the retailer on this one.
It's one of those TRU embossed foil stickers.
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Hi guys
Just look at sandtroopers news on the Y wing
Cool evolution of the vehicle! No matter is the same 1999 mold
Nice paintjob ever, the metal bronze parts of the structure, enhance the appreciation of its volume.
Very well done application of diferent shades of gray for the body, landing gears and missile bomb.
The cockpit shows the best updates: the movable radio with its extension, the steer and some panels with buttons
I hope this interior will serve to an update of the X wing interior cockpit, on a new biggest X wing of course.
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I really like this a lot, I like to get a couple to upgrade the cockpits of my other Y-Wings. I just hope they fixed the limp landing gear issue with this versions. I am glad it's not in a new scale to make the past 3 versions obsolete.
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Personally I'm highly disappointed that it's not a new ship. That thing's tiny... Y-Wings are a big rugged fighter, and that mold just shows its age tremendously, even with updates as nice as they are, for what they are.
The Clone Wars Y-Wing is right around the scale an OT Y-Wing should be... It stings pretty bad comparing it to the old one though. I'm glad I'll be passing on this item.
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Hopefully this is the last round for this mold - tweaks n all. That stupid box is drawing me in though... ::)
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Yeah, I'm underwhelmed. I really want a better sculpt of this ship.
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Normally I would agree with JJ sentiment on this not being new but for some reason I am not feeling a void on this not being new.(I was supporting this either way) I think it was hard to justify a new tool with the more sluggish sales the line is currently going through (i have a good friend over there who confirmed this). I think we would have seen a new tool if the CW Y-Wing/Arc SKU performed better at retail. I strongly believe since they flopped the entirely new one was scrapped. It would need to be $70+ to make it happen, people are just not shelling that out these days as loosely as before and the track record of that price point put a nail in it.
I still like what they did with the old tool.
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I think we would have seen a new tool if the CW Y-Wing/Arc SKU performed better at retail. I strongly believe since they flopped the entirely new one was scrapped. It would need to be $70+ to make it happen, people are just not shelling that out these days as loosely as before and the track record of that price point put a nail in it.
Yeah, I have heard the same - the flop of the $70 ARC/Y-Wing (no matter who you want to blame it on) sort of killed their plans for the CW Slave I, OT Slave I, and a new Y-Wing in that price line. They ended up salvaging the CW Slave I by sticking it a TRU megaBP, but the others, are lost for now...
I'm sort of undecided on this one. I think if it's not too expensive and there is a nice promo/sale going on, I may pick one up and 'retire' one of my old PotF2 versions to make room for it.
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Because it's in the vintage packaging they got me for two.
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That Nien Nunb figure on the box almost counts as a real vintage figure now ::)
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These have appeared in Australia already. And someone said a U.S. Toys R Us computer listing is $43.99.
I recall passing up prior releases for $30, and those had figures. Gotta love an almost 50% mark-up since 2008.
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I'm really glad they added the droid socket for this release - I think they had nothing else left to do with this mold besides return the droid socket that had been present in the original Kenner release. Combine that with the fact that this one is in packaging reminiscent of that release as well and you have a winner in my book.
I'm definitely down for one to open and one to keep MIB.
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They need to redo the control panel whatever, too. AND SPRING ACTION PROTON TORPEDO LAUNCHER. >:D
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If the $43.99 price holds true then I'm absolutely getting one.
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I don't know if this is old news or not, but I actually saw two of these on the shelf at our local TRU yesterday. I have to admit, I was mighty tempted to grab one - and still tempted to go back and check if they still have one - but I passed for now. I only have one of the previous Y-Wings, and the landing gear always fall down (plus no removable astro droid), so I wouldn't mind upgrading, although like JJ, I wish it was an all-new one. The vintage box almost made it an impulse buy itself. Oh, and it was priced at $39.99 at our store.
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I was at a local TRU at opening this morning, I was seriously hoping to find this in stock - but unfortunately it wasn't there.
Good to know it's at least in the US now, hopefully it will hit the east coast soon...
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I don't know if this is old news or not, but I actually saw two of these on the shelf at our local TRU yesterday. I have to admit, I was mighty tempted to grab one - and still tempted to go back and check if they still have one - but I passed for now. I only have one of the previous Y-Wings, and the landing gear always fall down (plus no removable astro droid), so I wouldn't mind upgrading, although like JJ, I wish it was an all-new one. The vintage box almost made it an impulse but itself. Oh, and it was priced at $39.99 at our store.
Could you grab us a SKU off a shelf tag, please?
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Not at either of the Memphis TN TRU's today, just the same 4-Lom's and Dengars as always.
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I don't know if this is old news or not, but I actually saw two of these on the shelf at our local TRU yesterday. I have to admit, I was mighty tempted to grab one - and still tempted to go back and check if they still have one - but I passed for now. I only have one of the previous Y-Wings, and the landing gear always fall down (plus no removable astro droid), so I wouldn't mind upgrading, although like JJ, I wish it was an all-new one. The vintage box almost made it an impulse but itself. Oh, and it was priced at $39.99 at our store.
Could you grab us a SKU off a shelf tag, please?
Item #: 724455
SKU: E9C083F0
UPC/EAN/ISBN: 653569650331
Manufacturer #: 33270
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I just don't like the color scheme or paintjob of this one at all. I really regret missing the last version, with the great weathering paint apps. In fact, I was going to buy JJ's minus the pilot, but was too late getting to it :'(
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Sorry man. I'm often pretty happy to help people out with that if they don't want the pilot... I've run into that situation, a LOT.
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/sdcc11/Slide32.JPG)
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Even after seeing the new pics, I still can't decide if I want this. :-\
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I want the box more than the toy. I think the ship sucks, to be blunt, but that's just me. Till that thing's about the size of the CW ship, which is about true-scale according to references, i'm just not buying another YW.
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I'm looking forward to it just so I can put Gray Three and his R5 unit into it.
I guess I'm a sucker for stuff like that...
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It's cool Pete, nothing wrong with that.
Mine will find a bench to chill on in a briefing scene is all.
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That's kinda why I was hoping for a generic Vintage X-Wing and (perhaps Blue deco) Vintage A-Wing - I would love to have been able to buy Rebel Alliance fighters for each of the Rebel Pilots from the Battle Over Endor sets.
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I picked this up at my local TRU the other day and since I saw a lot of people on the fence, I figured I'd give a bullet-points review of the toy that will hopefully help some people make a decision one way or another on it.
First of all, the paintjob is much more subdued than I thought it would be, but that's actually a good thing. It doesn't have the gaudy look of the 2004 OTC version, and the reddish-orange markings on the new version are done sparingly yet well. It truly looks like a "just off screen" version of the ship, but for all I know, it was actually present in the Battle of Endor.
The plastic is also much more "cream" colored when compared to the heavily distressed white/gray of the 2007 TRU exclusive version (the one which included the R5 droid and pilot, and the one I'm going to be comparing the new version to the most in this "review"). The new version has a lot more tan paint on the "cables" along the back sections of the ship (as opposed to the 2007 version, which just had a lot of gray brushing for wear, which I liked). There's not much, if any, brushing on the body of the new Y-Wing, which I think kind of hurts it a bit in the detail department. Still, the new version doesn't look bad, per se, it's just kind of unremarkable when put alongside the 2007 version.
The engines themselves are once again painted orange with "burn" details around the nacelles, although the orange is a bit brighter on the new version next to the 2007 version. Hasbro actually painted two gold lines on the Y-Wing's ion cannon turret atop the cockpit, which gives it a bit of character. The red/orange markings are in identical locations to the yellow on the 2007 version, but there is an added "distressed" panel of gray on the front right of the cockpit area which, again, gives it a little extra character in your fleet.
Mold wise, on the top of the ship, the most obvious difference in this modern version is the astromech droid slot. Right now I have a BAD R4 unit in the socket and he fits just fine. The slot is just big enough to secure him nicely, but not so tight that it feels like you're pushing him in to the point of breaking. For those fellow "flight testers" out there, I turned the ship upside down and the R4 BAD did not fall out, so there you go. Hasbro also filled in the two screw holes just to the back of the astromech droid section, so you not longer have visible screws on the top of the ship.
The new cockpit is very well done, with painted on displays and individual flight control sticks for each hand. The coolest thing (which I hadn't heard about prior to getting the ship) is the pull-out targeting computer to the right of the pilot's head (just like in the movie!). It's pretty secure when you don't have it pulled out, and fairly sturdy when extended. It can also be rotated 45% when you have it extended so your chosen pilot can make his ill fated trench run. Very nice detail to say the least, and very appreciated.
My main gripe with the Y-Wing continues to be the horribly designed landing gear. I was hoping that Hasbro would go the route of the CW Y-Wing and totally redo the design of the landing gear, but I was disappointed. They did make the front landing gear a separate piece not dependent upon the "tracked" system of the previous versions, but the rear gear still buckle and go back into the ship, unable to support its own weight. I thought at first that this had been fixed, as the rear gear kind of "clicked" (similar to the landing gear on General Grievous' Starfighter), but after a few seconds, even the click couldn't handle it, and my Y-Wing went to its belly on the coffee table. :-\ The bomb dropping mechanism, by the way, still works the same as all the other versions, but the bomb is a single piece.
All in all, I'm not sorry I bought the new Y-Wing, but cockpit and astromech droid slot aside, it's not really an improvement on the 2007 TRU exclusive version, which cost the same and included two figures. If you're looking for something to fill out your Alliance fleet and give it a little variety, plus get the really cool box, I'd say go for it. If you're perfectly happy with your 2007 (or 2004, or 2000, or 1983) version, you can probably pass and not feel badly about doing so. Oh, and it was 39.99 plus tax at my TRU, so there you go.
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Doc P, the red deco has a prop built of it, pictures are out and about, but it's not really clear where it is or what movie. It seemed like ROTJ stills of it though, mostly measuring it or whatnot. It maybe even got repainted for one reason or another and wound up just being yellow.
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Thanks for the review! It's a shame they did not improve the biggest flaw of the toy. I think the scale is fine it was always the landing gear that bothered me, oh well. I plan on picking two up, maybe more if I can transfer the new cockpit into the older versions to upgrade them. I tried looking for his puppy on Friday but to no avail.
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Booooooooooo on the landing gear! Hopefully this is the last run of this mold. I still may get one just to own that pretty box.
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Yeah, that is disappointing to hear about the landing gear. That was one of the main reasons I picked up the new one, since my previous version keeps falling down in the back as well. Plus, the version I have does not have the removable astromech, so I thought it would be nice to have that update as well. I picked one up at TRU last week, and have just left it in the box with the receipt, undecided if I was going to keep it or not. I'll admit, the packaging sort of swayed me off the fence as well, even though I'd be opening it. Like Jesse, I think it could probably use a re-do, and hopefully we'll see that during the OT 3D releases. For now, I have to decide whether to keep this or not. It is an upgrade over the Y-Wing I already have, but it also has many of the same problems the way it sounds.
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It's funny how many things aren't working with it for people, like the landing gear. Hardly what I'd say is the Y-Wing update to end all Y-Wing updates I guess.
The box is all kinds of awesome though and I'm sure that's going to put a rose colored tint on a lot of folks' glasses though.
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Scored one of these tonight. It definitely reminds me of when I picked up my own vintage Y-Wing about 10 years ago, boxed and all!
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The coolest thing (which I hadn't heard about prior to getting the ship) is the pull-out targeting computer to the right of the pilot's head (just like in the movie!). It's pretty secure when you don't have it pulled out, and fairly sturdy when extended. It can also be rotated 45% when you have it extended so your chosen pilot can make his ill fated trench run. Very nice detail to say the least, and very appreciated.
I picked this up today at TRU and for some reason, that little Targeting Computer thingy is what makes me love this new version. Such a great little detail! Yeah the landing gear is still a little suspect, but overall, it's a really nice upgrade. I love the new cockpit and the return of the droid slot. Also, love the fact they plugged the ugly screwholes in the top of the ship.
I was going to re-sell my POTF2 version, but I think I'll keep it since all three of mine (PotF2, 30AC, and TVC) are just different enough to add nice variety to my Yavin Hangar set-up.
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I got this last night - then I went home and found an email in my box for 20% off one item for today or tomorrow only. I will probably swing by there and get an adjustment.
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Okay, I gotta admit, I'm geeking out a little over the cockpit details. Thought the targeting computer is too low, it's still very cool.
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Looks like TRU reset their offerings at some point today including the new Y-wing. They also have Defend Kamino BP (and others), Deluxe Geonosian with Speeder (and others, but no Rebel Sled), the new Lego sets, and the Delta Squad BP (No TFU set though :( ).
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I was going to pull the trigger on this despite my problems with it's lilliputian scale, but then I saw this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_wkkl/5590133643/) image. I'm really hoping this is Hasbro's last attempt with this sculpt before they give the Y-Wing it's much needed overhaul.
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I was going to pull the trigger on this despite my problems with it's lilliputian scale, but then I saw this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_wkkl/5590133643/) image. I'm really hoping this is Hasbro's last attempt with this sculpt before they give the Y-Wing it's much needed overhaul.
Sickening isn't it? I was really tempted to get it this week with the price down to $30 and the vintage packaging, but just can't bring myself to get another one of these. :P
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I picked one of these up a while back when they first showed up, but haven't opened it yet. I think, honestly, that the package is what got me even though I don't keep things carded/boxed for the most part. I have one of the previous Y-Wings, and honestly, after seeing that comparison picture, it sort of makes me want to take it back. Man, they could really use to do an all-new Y-Wing. Maybe for the 3D release of A New Hope or something.
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A new BMF-style Y-Wing sounds great, but would folks really be interested in one when they announce it's coming with a $70-80 price tag?
Many, many folks balked at the BMF-style CW Y-Wing at the $70 price. Would collectors do the same for an OT Y-Wing at $70 or would it be "OK" this time since it's an OT ship?
Or do you guys think that Hasbro would magically be able to crank out a larger scale OT Y-Wing for less than that CW version somehow?
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I can't speak for anyone but myself... but I'm fine with the current mold on the Y-Wing... I mean, I could be persuaded to get a slightly larger one, but for the $70 price range, I might be sitting on the sidelines.
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Where did Hasbro ever get this $60-$70 pricepoint for the ARC & the Y-Wing? I understand we live in different times now, but ya....That's a little too much IMO. I wonder how many more vehicles we'd have seen at this point if that price was around say $45-$50 to begin with.
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Where did Hasbro ever get this $60-$70 pricepoint for the ARC & the Y-Wing? I understand we live in different times now, but ya....That's a little too much IMO. I wonder how many more vehicles we'd have seen at this point if that price was around say $45-$50 to begin with.
I don't like the current mold, but like Chewie, I wouldn't be scrambling to spend $70 on a bigger one either. I still haven't caved on the Republic Shittle at $80. The mid size assortment vehicles are still around $25, so I don't see how a larger ship costs 3x that amount. Yes, I get that a new sculpt costs more, but we're seeing plent of new sculpts in the mid-size vehicles, so I don't really buy that argument anymore. I would be okay with a $55-60 larger size Y-wing similar to the CW one, and I'd go $70 if it included a figure or two.
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A new BMF-style Y-Wing sounds great, but would folks really be interested in one when they announce it's coming with a $70-80 price tag?
Many, many folks balked at the BMF-style CW Y-Wing at the $70 price. Would collectors do the same for an OT Y-Wing at $70 or would it be "OK" this time since it's an OT ship?
Or do you guys think that Hasbro would magically be able to crank out a larger scale OT Y-Wing for less than that CW version somehow?
I may be in the minority, but I haven't bought any of the modern Y-Wings yet, in hopes that they give us a properly scaled version. I love the new molds for the X-Wing, Millennium Falcon, AT-AT and Slave-1, So I would definitely throw down cash for a BMF Y-Wing or three. I didn't buy the Clone Wars version because it's just not my Y-Wing. I think it's cool, but I have no attachment to it. That said, I may still buy a CW Y-Wing...I just haven't yet.
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With the $29.99 sale, and a $25.00 gift card I had from TRU for buying Dead Island on XBOX, I went ahead and got a TVC Y-Wing this week. I'll open it pretty soon.