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Title: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on March 9, 2004, 03:28 PM
Galactic Hunter has a sneak peek up of the TRU-exclusive Jedi Council set featuring Obi-Wan, Plo Koon and Eeth Koth.  You can check out a pic of this set here:

Jedi Council Sneak Peek (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absoluteNm/articlefiles/2456-jedicouncil2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Jedi Council Set Sneak Peek
Post by: Scott on March 9, 2004, 03:42 PM
Cool, a seated Plo Koon and Eeth Koth! BTW I'm going to merge this with the existing JC thread we had going last fall!
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Scott on March 9, 2004, 03:43 PM
Oh...and that leaves the following for Sitting Jedi we still need...

Episodes I and II

Adi Gallia
Ki Adi Mundi
Even Piell
Depa Billaba
Saesee Tiin

Episode II

Coleman Trebor
Shaak Ti
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Brian on March 9, 2004, 03:51 PM
Thanks Scott, sorry...I should have dug a little deeper before I posted that :P.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Scott on March 9, 2004, 03:57 PM
That's OK...I don't think there is a thread really discussing these new sets, I do know there was this one though.

For the rumored record the four new sets are:

JC #3 Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn and Ki-Adi Mundi (March 2004)
JC #4 Obi Wan, Plo Kloon, Eeth Koth (May 2004)
JC #5 Shaak Ti, Coleman Trebor, Stass Allie (July 2004)
JC #6 Anakin Skywalker, Saesee Tiin, Adi Gallia (September 2004)

Lets hope Ki, Shaak, Coleman, Saesee and Adi are all seated, which leaves Depa or Evan Seated (that last one is has a fat chance) as the only remaining Members

I'm wondering if Stass or Adi is actually Depa and the person who gave the info is incorrect
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: obi-dad on March 9, 2004, 05:10 PM
That Obi-Wan looks familiar.... is that the trophy edition Obi?
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: SilverZ on March 9, 2004, 08:04 PM
Hard to tell if from that fuzzy pic if they sink or swim to me. Looks like there is a lot of kit-bashing happening there. Nothing inherently wrong with it, but not exactly earth-shattering excitement.
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Darby on March 9, 2004, 09:22 PM
Yeah.  A big 'oh, well' for me.  I suppose Eeth is interesting because he can be an Arena version, what's his name?  Otherwise, blah.
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Scott on March 10, 2004, 10:09 AM
Man people are really dogging this set around the boards...why?  What did you expect?  True the Obi-Wan is pretty much crap but how else are they supposed to represent Plo and Eeth?  The only real major gripe is the lack of robes...

I didn't hear the same complaints about the lack of a robe on Mace

(http://www.swfigures.com/images/Images2/AOTC-CinemaScenes/2003-JediCouncil.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2004, 01:33 PM
My only gripe will be the look on Eeth Sloth's face...  I'm hearing he's got the same screaming face the POTJ figure had.  The rest of the set looks relatively decent to me though.  Good enough anyway...

Better than the 1st two sets I think, as Mace is all but useless from his set, with his goofy hand, and awkwardly sculpted articulation.  He's customizeable if those damned things would ever clearance at TRU though.  
Title: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on May 20, 2004, 05:02 AM
Looky looky what's up on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3194310092)...   8)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/JCfull_bg)

Stoked to see that they're going to be including the middle flooring section pieces!  Wonder if they'll double up on them to make up for having none in the first two sets?  Now all we need are some decent backdrops for each set.  Looks like there's grooves included in the back of the plastic set pieces to hold just that.  Wonder if they'll ever deliver, or if we'll have to hit up some of the better customizers around here for a nice set...
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: JediMAC on May 20, 2004, 05:08 AM
Couple individual shots here too, so you can get a better look at 'em...

(http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/d9/bb/07_1.JPG) (http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/d9/bb/0d_1.JPG)

Still blows that they don't all have the appropriate cloth capes, but there's enough of those floating around from the old Target accessory sets that should hopefully suffice.

Guess these should be showing up Stateside in about another month or two, now that they're up on the Bay.  I wonder if these are going to be in the OTC packaging, or if they'll look consistent with the prior couple of Screen Scene sets...  Whatchya' guys think/want?  I'd prefer them to just look the same as the old ones, myself...
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: CorranHorn on May 20, 2004, 05:14 AM
I could go into a long rant about the recycling of parts, but it's the calling card of TRU exclusives. The problem then is the parts they've chosen to use. They easily could have made better use of parts, like for instance the Qui-Gon could have had better arms than what they gave him. They could have certainly used a better Yoda as well. I'll be passing on these, not even a swanky middle piece can save these sets in my eyes. In fact these sets will probably kill the Screen Scene concept for good.
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: evenflow on May 20, 2004, 09:02 AM
I am happy to see they will be including the floor on the sets. It is going to rock.
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Jedirhino on May 20, 2004, 09:16 AM
If you look closely at the figures in this set it is such a rehash of old figures...I certainly hope that these next sets are just as good as the first 2!!!
Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: CHEWIE on May 20, 2004, 04:07 PM
Yeah, these rehashes are getting very old... but I do like the center floor pieces being added.  Guess I will be getting these after all! :)

I'm also glad to have a Ki Adi Mundi that can sit finally.  Yipeee

 :P

Title: Re: Jedi Council
Post by: Nicklab on May 20, 2004, 11:14 PM
I would've preferred a new Qui-Gon, or have something like I did.  I took off Tatooine Qui-Gon's poncho and gave him a Jedi robe, and I think it's one of the best Qui-Gon's I have.

As for the Obi-Wan, I wish they'd used another as well.  Either the Naboo one with the cloak, or the SG one plus a SG cloak.

The other figures are fine.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on May 24, 2004, 06:18 PM
Based on new pix around the net, it looks like these two new Jedi Council sets are coming in OTC packaging, so I've moved our conversation about them over here in the OTC forum.  I did leave behind (in the Saga forum) the discussion on whether or not we had a complete Jedi Council after the first two sets came out last year.  So if you're looking for that discussion, it's still right here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=3918).

I'll toss those pix back in this thread though, for everyone's enjoyment:

(http://www.coreplanets.com/photopost/data/500/81councilscene.jpg?7154)

Ki-Adi Mundi never wore a Jedi Cloak though, did he?  I know he didn't in TPM for sure.  I think that's a slight oversight there...

(http://www.ffurg.com/casting_call/jedicouncil/council01.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on May 24, 2004, 08:52 PM
The center sections of the floor makes up for a lot of problems with the sets, but come on... 1999 Qui Gon?  ??? Kitbashing the seated Jedi are fine, but honestly, kids and collectors take one look at this on the shelves and see those Ep1 rehashes standing there, with no modification over their 1999 pegwarming incarnations, and interest in the set will dwindle even faster than the last sets, which were actually good.

(http://www.leisuresuit.net/Webzine/cont_grf/wernerklemperer.jpg)
Haaaaaaassssssbro!

Hasbro should have offered up the soft goods Qui with a cloth robe instead. That would have helped.

The OTC packaging doesn't do much for it, either, for better or worse.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on May 24, 2004, 10:44 PM
I very much like your use of Herr Klink, Jared :-*
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Darby on May 24, 2004, 11:54 PM
Yeah, this Jedi Council set is probably the weakest effort I've ever seen from Hasbro, and that's saying something.  I'm really disappointed with it.  
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on May 25, 2004, 01:05 AM
Yeah, I'm laugin' it up over that one.  I wannna see that as our new mascot.  The quote's just too much.  :)

The kitbashes are sort of silly.  Sculpt a new head at least, ya know?  And you KNOW these aren't going to be like $10 or so, to adjust for the obviously lessened cost of mold tooling.

I mean, give a new head to Eeth Sloth...  Give some figures a LITTLE retooling.  Not everything, just a little bit.  Make it worth the (you know it's gonna cost) price they'll inevitably charge.

Cloth does NOT cost this much.  I've been to the fabric store looking to do my own soft-goods customs, it doesn't cost an arm & a leg for some knit fabric!   :P
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on May 30, 2004, 02:45 PM
Sweetness.  Check it out...

(http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/news/2004/05/ex_jedicouncilall6.jpg)

Not perfect, but pretty cool to see all 6 official sets together for the first time.  Picture courtesy 4-inches.de (http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/news.htm)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Darby on May 30, 2004, 03:57 PM
Looks real nice all put together.  Looks like little Anakin is coming with one of them like most people thought.  I want to retract my earlier statement about the Jedi sets being the weakest effort I'd ever seen from Hasbro.

That's clearly the 'new' Endor Ambush set.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on May 30, 2004, 04:47 PM
Shakk-Ti looks like she's using her super-posed Saga arms for this figure. That's just bad.  ::)

The council floor, however, sure looks cool all put together.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on May 30, 2004, 05:02 PM
I think it'll look a lot better, and much less cluttered, when the "standing" figures are removed, so all you have are the seated council members.

Also, anyone see a seated Coleman Trebor in there?  He was on the Council in AOTC, right?  Looks like we'll still technically be missing a number of them in seated poses unfortunately...
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on May 30, 2004, 05:03 PM
Where's Coleman?  And who is standing next to Shaak?  Adi Gallia?
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on May 30, 2004, 06:10 PM
I think it looks like Adi is seated next to Shaak Ti on the right - that looks like her braids... kinda, sorta.

So that magicshell-robe has to be someone else. And who is seated next to it? What were the figures announced for that set?
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on May 30, 2004, 06:38 PM
JC #3 Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn and Ki-Adi Mundi (March 2004)
JC #4 Obi Wan, Plo Kloon, Eeth Koth (May 2004)
JC #5 Shaak Ti, Coleman Trebor, Stass Allie (July 2004)
JC #6 Anakin Skywalker, Saesee Tiin, Adi Gallia (September 2004)

Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on May 30, 2004, 06:39 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/episodeI/e1adigalliacloakbk.jpg)

Here's the back of Adi Gallia...so that is Adi sitting and Stass standing since she wasn't part of the council.  They better not just be repacking Adi >:(  (oh wait this is Hasbro)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on May 30, 2004, 06:50 PM
God, I forgot Adi even came with a cloak. I'll brace myself for total Stass suckage.

So that's Coleman sitting there? Why do I have a feeling this is going to be bad news when we see him? He looks tiny.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 31, 2004, 10:31 AM
I guess I should be thanking Hasbro for saving me so much money this fall.  I'd already decided to pass on the first two TRU Council sets and after seeing these new sets (how strange that the backs of the unseen-to-this-point sets are all you can see in the photo, huh?), I'm going to be passing on them as well.  Hasbro could have really done something special with these four sets, but they instead decided to once again take the cheap and easy way out, hoping that people would go along with the endless rehashes just to get the entire chamber.

Let's just look at this for a second....

SET 1: Eeth Koth (POTJ head on a Mace body)-looks totally ridiculous, even if they did give him "new" arms; Obi-Wan (Episode I Jedi Duel)-he never appeared in this costume in that scene; Plo Koon (Saga)-same action oriented pose but with "new" legs.  Great.

SET 2: Yoda (Episode I/Saga)-laziness, pure and simple; Qui-Gon (Episode I Naboo)-doesn't even have his saber on his belt anymore; Ki-Adi Mundi (Episode I/Saga)-the only one I can forgive since the lower body and legs were all that really needed to be changed

SET 3: Saesee Tiiin (seemingly the Saga version)-action pose with new legs, ala Koon; Anakin (seemingly the POTJ version)-ugh; Stass Allie (probably Adi Gallia with new legs and lower body)-knowing Hasbro they'll just give the head a new paint job

SET 4: Shaak Ti (the Saga upper torso with new lower torso)-the biggest cop out of the entire series; Coleman Trebor (we can't even see him clearly); Adi Gallia (more than likely just a straight rehash of the Episode I figure)

Out of that entire list, there is not one single new figure in the bunch.  Most of them are either from a time when the sculpts weren't as good as they are now (Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Yoda), or they are really inappropriately posed for characters who are supposed to be pensive.  

Kudos Hasbro, you never fail to disappoint me, and you'd think I would know better by this point.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Nicklab on May 31, 2004, 01:41 PM
The set looks really nice put together.  I'm curious about a couple of things:

First, which Saesee Tiin did they use?  I'm sincerely hoping it's the Clone Wars sculpt with articulated legs, no gloves and intact horn.  That's a great figure, and this would prove to be a definitive version of the character.

Coleman Trebor seems to be in the dark.  Perhaps intentionally.  Only time will tell on this one.

Then there's the Stass Allie/Adi Gallia issue.  I think Adi Gallia is the seated one, and Stass Allie is standing.  This would be good since we already have a standing Adi Gallia, and I don't recall seeing Stass Allie actually in the Jedi Council chamber.  This is a wait and see situation for me.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on June 1, 2004, 10:00 AM
Although some of these figures are basically repacks, I really like how the whole set looks put together.  I usually don't get overly excited about prequel stuff anymore, but the Jedi (and council) were one of my favorite things out of the PT so far, and I think it would be really nice to have the circle on display.  I'll be trying to pick these up, but it could get pricey by the time the "circle is complete".
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on June 1, 2004, 10:35 AM
I'm wondering if that's actually Agen Kolar instead of Coleman Trebor


Makes no sense though (since Agen was not on the Council), but it sure doesn't look like Coleman and it does sorta look like Agen/Eeth
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: DSJ™ on June 1, 2004, 11:02 AM
Scenes 1 & 2 are on Yahoo auctions!

Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn and Ki-Adi Mundi  (http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c60600458)

Obi Wan, Plo Kloon, Eeth Koth  (http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c60600459)

Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on June 1, 2004, 11:42 AM
I'm going to reluctantly pick these up...the whole set is too cool to pass up even though the figures are rehashed garbage
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jim on June 1, 2004, 12:43 PM
Did I miss something here?  Are the center pieces included with the new 3-packs?  If so, were they included in the first 2 that have come out?  If so, mine never had them.  Anyone else?
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on June 1, 2004, 12:57 PM
Nope...one center piece will be with the Yoda set while the other will presumably be in the third Wave of 2 (Shaak and Saesee sets)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jim on June 1, 2004, 01:40 PM
Thanks Scott ;D
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on June 1, 2004, 02:04 PM
Going WAYYYYY back to when the lists first popped up:

Quote
3-3/4" Jedi Council Scene I Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn, Adi Mundi (March 2004)
3-3/4" Jedi Council Scene II Obi Wan, Plo Kloon, Ickath (May 2004)
3-3/4" Jedi Council Scene III Shaak Ti, Chema, Sta Sta (July 2004)
3-3/4" Jedi Council Scene IV Anakin, Sae Sae, Adegalia (September 2004)

Obviously, the dates are wrong, but they are coming out.

For #2, the de-coders were right and "Ickath" does equal Eeth Koth.

For #4, from the picture of the whole set, I'd still have to go with the seated figure in the picture being Adi Gallia, while the Standing figure in Set #3 is a Stass Allie rehashed out of the Ep1 Adi figure.

In set #3, Hasbro will probably give us an Ep1 Adi and just call her Stass Alliee with no changes at all. :(   I expect nothing more from the Big H in these days of OTC repack madness.  The picture of the cloak seems to strengthen that guess.

So, I guess the debate then will be whether "Chema" is Coleman Trebor or Agen Kolar.  Hmmm... from the picture, he looks too small to be Coleman, but I'm not sure.  It sure would be a lot cheaper for Hasbro to just pack out another seated Eeth Koth and renanme him Agen.

Since this is the "Era of Cheapness" aka The "Anti-PotJ", I will fall in line with those who think it's Agen Kolar, simply because that is the cheapest option for Hasbro, and that seems to be the popular choice for them lately...

Jeff
OTC = The anti-PotJ
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on June 2, 2004, 09:58 AM
GH.com has a new feature up on the Jedi Council set 1 (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=2872&zoneid=2), along with this picture:

Larger Jedi Council Picture (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3363&text=&imageid=10606&box=&shownew=)

Looks like a pony tail on the unidentified figure...  looks more and more like Agen Kolar to me.

So, 4 "new" sets = 12 figures.

4x Ep1 repacks (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Yoda, Qui-Gon)
6x kit-bashed monsters - old torso, new legs (Ki, Plo, Eeth, Adi, Shaak, Saesee)
2x recycled junk (Stass Allie & Agen Kolar)

Is this good a good thing?  

 :-\

I guess I am not surprised that Stass Allie and Agen are being cranked out based on old sculpts since this is the Era of Recycling as Hasbro.

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on June 3, 2004, 10:47 AM
GH has a preview of the Second Set

http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=2883&zoneid=2

Looks awful

Not sure I want to buy these anymore ::)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on June 3, 2004, 12:16 PM
I'll get these in a year when they go on sale, just like how I got the first two jedi council sets. kb had them for $8 each a couple months ago so I picked them up.  I like the council set and will eventually get them all ( I hope) eventhough some of the rehashed ep1 figs aren't in themselves intersting. But it'll be a nice display set.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Snively Bandar on June 3, 2004, 02:33 PM
I'm thrilled with the "playset portion" of the sets they're giving us, so we can finally have a complete council, including it's chairs and entire floor.  But the figures totally suck.  That further sucks because I can't customize very well.  I don't need all those standing figures, and the Jedi that weren't ever sitting in the council.  Just give me some nice, and accurate, seated council members.  That's all I ask.  Stupid Hasbro.   >:(
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on June 10, 2004, 09:47 AM
http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.headlines/id.1046/dn/default.cfm

Habro update
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2004, 10:34 AM
Huh.

Nothing new and no news on Agen Kolar or sets #3 and #4 other than to say they are coming this fall.

Nice to see Hasbro updating their site more often though... they have such a chance to use the site to generate early buzz, but just sit on pictures and info until everyone already knows about the stuff... wouldn't it be nice for them to post a few surprises every now and again?

Jeff


Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on June 10, 2004, 10:36 AM
Quote
wouldn't it be nice for them to post a few surprises every now and again?

I agree, that would really be nice.  I'm glad to see them updating a little more frequently now too.  I was really hoping we might get another "vintage spotlight" feature this week, since we've been having 1-2 per week the last few weeks.  Plus, last week's Vader update said "check back later for pics of vintage Vader carded", and that still hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on June 16, 2004, 03:37 PM
Just noticed that apparently Hasbro posted a "Q and A Update" this past Monday.  They only answer two questions, one about 12" and one about the Jedi Council sets.  You can view them at this link:

Hasbro June 14 Q and A (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.headlines/id.1050/dn/default.cfm)

Here's what was asked/answered:

Star Wars Q & A for the week of June 14, 2004

Q: I haven’t seen many 12” figures at retail.  Were they cancelled?

A: No! As a matter of fact, as part of our Original Trilogy Collection, three 12" figures will be available at most fine retailers this fall in vintage style packaging: Luke Skywalker, Boba Fett, and Stormtrooper.  Check out the Republic News postings from Feb 13 and May 12, 2004 for more details.

Q: What are the names of the figures included in sets 3 and 4 of the Jedi Council Scene Packs?

A: Set 3 will include Stass Allie, Agen Kolar, and Shaak Ti. Set 4 will include Saesee Tiin, Adi Gallia, and Anakin Skywalker. Both scenes will be available this fall exclusively at Toys R Us.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on June 16, 2004, 03:55 PM
I guess that settles that debate, with Hasbro confirming Agen Kolar and Stass Allie as part of Box #3, even though, technically, Stass and Agen were NOT on the council.

I thought Eeth Koth and Adi Gallia were still on the Council (since the council footage was recycled from Episode 1), and Agen Kolar and Stass Allie were just clever names for the new actors who played them during the Arena scenes... or has that been ret-conned?

 ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on June 28, 2004, 03:51 PM
I see that a few Scalper "High-Demand" Shops have the First of the TRU box sets in stock.  I guess that means that these are on thier way to TRU.  Should be here in the next couple of weeks I guess...

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on June 28, 2004, 03:54 PM
Should be, I saw that ActionHQ will have them in stock soon so that means at least 2 weeks, more like a month
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on July 7, 2004, 04:36 AM
I stumbled upon the third set, with Ki-Adi, Yoda, and Qui-Gonn, at a couple different TRUs today.  Lemme tell ya', this set is SUCK, SUCK, and more SUCK.  Gross.  If it wasn't for the articulated knees on a few key Jedi, and the playset value (floor and chairs) of these last 4 sets, I wouldn't even bother with this garbage...  (who am I kidding, I'd still have to buy them!)

Same ol' Yoda and Qui-Gonn in this one, from the looks of it.  And poor Ki-Adi looks like he got punched sumthin' fierce in both his eyes.  Either that, or he's going way too overboard with Padme's makeup kit...   ::)

Did I mention YUCK?!
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on July 7, 2004, 09:32 PM
So the local TRU had a case of six of these this morning (about 10:30-ish), stacked up in the overflow shelf way up high... I pulled the box down to make sure it was only Set 1 shipping (yes, Set 1, 6 per case), pulled one out, stacked it on the overflowing mass of Geonosis War Room sets on the shelf, and put the case back up high. Returning at 6pm, it was still sitting there, untouched. Things move pretty fast (Bueller?) at that TRU, so I think its a good indication of how shelf-warmy these things are.

I bought 2 the other day at another store, and the enourmous power of the suckage coming from within the package nearly opened up a black hole in my living room. These suck like nothing before them.

$20 bucks for 1/4 of the Council floor, a seated Ki, and two useless lumps of 1999 plastic lameness. Boo!
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: wai on July 10, 2004, 07:15 AM
Here are the box images of upcoming set 3 & 4 :)

OTC Jedi Council Scene 1 (http://tw.f3.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/c11539710)

OTC Jedi Council Scene 2 (http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/1129947036)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on July 12, 2004, 11:14 AM
These haven't shown up here yet, but checking out the pictures online....set 3 doesn't look too spectacular.  I wanted to pick these up, just to have the full "circle"...but it will be tough spending $20 on ones like Set 3, with repackaged figures (and not necessarily good figures even at that).  Oh well, I'll end up buying it anyways, because I want the whole circle :).
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: habs98 on July 13, 2004, 11:41 PM
Feel the same way.  These Council scenes are so wrong.  They should have chosen a Council from either EP1 or EP2.  Not a different Council from each movie.  Will I get them "yes", just to complete the circle but then I will replace them with the original council members from EP1.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on July 19, 2004, 03:10 PM
You know, I saw 2x of the Yoda/Ki Adi/Qui Gon set at TRU this weekend...and although I do want to have the whole "circle", I just couldn't bring myself to pick it up...yet.  I have spent a fair amount the past couple weeks on OTC/VOTC and some Spider-Man stuff, so money was a little bit of a factor, but the set overall is just not that great from what I can see.  Just buying Episode I figures again, and not even great ones at that.  $20 seemed a little steep at the time just to get more of the circle, but I'll probably pick it up eventually.  Sets like this really are a rip off though, I will admit.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2004, 12:34 AM
OMG I'm gonna barf after seeing the 2 sets they have on display at SDCC

Hey...let put the same figure in 2 sets and paint one slightly darker and call onr Adi Gallia and one Stass Allie

Let's not put in Coleman Trebor, Seated Depa Billaba or Seated Even Piell...bastards >:(

Matt should have some pics soon to show what I'm bitching about
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2004, 12:39 AM
I'm not even gonna say much on these...  First sets were fairly decent.  At least NEW figures, NEW characters...  They filled sme void.

These new sets are REALLY lame right now.  As much as I want a cmplete set, I'm going to be hard pressed to buy into them.

It's a shame because, once again, Hasbro will say "well the fans just didn't like these, they must suck", when it's not the concept that sucks but rather the execution is attrocious.

The first sets didn't sell great...  unless they limit these things in prduction, they'll go nowhere fast.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Morgbug on July 22, 2004, 01:04 AM
Need to see the pics, but based on the conversation here, I'm thinking wait until clearance which may take forever.  

I think Scott picked up the first two sets for me nearly a year ago.  I saw them several months later in Cincinnati and then just last month in North Dakota, so they don't move all that quick.  I hope.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2004, 09:34 AM
I hope that the Jedi Scenes # 3/4 or 5/6 or what ever we are calling them are just mock-ups.

Kinda like how the "Cantina Set 2" they have at SDCC doesn't match the pics on the Hasbro website (different Ben).

Maybe?   :-\

Otherwise, yeah those Jedi packs blow.

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2004, 09:38 AM
Ali, Anakin and Saesee (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2004/Hasbro&image=DSC00717.jpg&img=16&tt=)

Stass, Agen and Shaak (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2004/Hasbro&image=DSC00715.jpg&img=16&tt=)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2004, 09:50 AM
This is definitely a disappointing turn of events.  Agen Kolar and Stass Allie shouldn't have been a part of these sets.  I'm also disappointed that the Saesee Tiin mold is the SAGA version, and not the CLONE WARS one.  Just fix that horn and give him bendable knees and he would've been perfect.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2004, 09:51 AM
Good point Nick, why also not throw in Coleman instead of Agen Kolar if you're gonna do something this idiotic.  It was a great idea as Brent and Jesse said.  The first 2 sets were really nice, the second 2 are so/so but these last two are down right laughable
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2004, 10:02 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/stassali.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2004, 01:41 PM
Funnier every time I see it.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on July 26, 2004, 10:18 AM
These sets are really frustrating.  I bought the first two, and thought they were pretty cool...but have been looking at the pile of the latest set (Qui, Ki Adi, Yoda) sitting at TRU, and although I know I want the "whole circle", I just can't bring myself to buy it.  It just seems like such a rip off, $20 for three figures I have standing here on my shelves already.  Just so they have some chairs.  I don't know, I really want to complete the circle, but looking at that set (and pics of these others), its going to be tough to spend $20 a pop on these.  The re-coloring is laughable.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on July 26, 2004, 02:35 PM
Amazon has set 2 (Plo, Obi and Eeth) in stock
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on July 27, 2004, 08:40 PM
Also showing up in-store at TRU. Found them locally today.

It's not anywhere near as bad as Scene 1. Eeth is pretty cool and a good variation of the character after the super-posed version. Plo is actually a lot better once he's out of the packaging, since it's actually possible to pose him with his crazy Saga arms into something somewhat neutral in his chair.

Obi-Wan still blows 1999 Episode 1 chuncks, though. What a lame figure. I want a super-articulated version of him with a freakin' good headsculpt and a Padawan braid that doesn't look like a giant dead worm hanging from his ear.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: jokabofe on July 28, 2004, 12:14 AM
hmm, i found the yoda/qui gon/ki adi set today, and actually carried it around for a while before putting it back. i can't bring myself to buy that monstrosity. i know i need one, but i just can't. maybe one day, i'll go into toys r us and it will be a miracle, they'll have all kinds of stuff that i want, and i can just kinda sneak that into my cart and not notice that i'm buying it. that's gonna be the only way i can see myself taking that crap home.

but the council set looks so damn awesome fully assembled on the back...

but $20 for a base is crazy. 'cause those figures are pretty much going right in the trash.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on July 28, 2004, 12:24 AM
I was thinking about this a little bit, and here's my little concern - when I found the second set today, it was in a case of 6, all Scene 2. It will be interesting to see if they're actively shipping Scene 1 at the same time, or the production runs on these are lower and what is out there is it (I kinda doubt it, but you never know).
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Nicklab on July 28, 2004, 12:47 AM
Does anyone find that the paint apps on the Jedi Council Scene 1 Ki-Adi Mundi is not so good?
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on July 28, 2004, 01:38 AM
Quote
Does anyone find that the paint apps on the Jedi Council Scene 1 Ki-Adi Mundi is not so good?

He's right here on the desk, and to me he looks like he's been hanging out in the lady's makeup department. Not so good.  :-\

Ok, now that I've opened Scene 2, I'm a little confused about the Obi-Wan in the set. He has swivel articulation at the elbows, but no wrist articulation, which I'm pretty sure the Jedi Duel version had. Am I remembering wrong? The hands are just painted and non-articulated. The feet have a 1999 copyright.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on July 28, 2004, 08:30 AM
I believe that Obi-Wan from set #2 is from the PotJ line, not the Ep1 Final Duel version.

He is the "Chocolate-Dipped" Obi-Wan, without the rubber cloak/shell and saber...

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: DSJ™ on September 1, 2004, 10:29 AM
Jedi Council Scene Packs 3 & 4 Available this Fall  (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.headlines/id.1095/dn/default.cfm)

I'm still passing on all these sets. Just like Brent, I'll wait for wait until clearance.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on September 1, 2004, 12:15 PM
These are the suckiest things that have ever sucked

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/stassali.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on September 1, 2004, 12:32 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/stassali.jpg)

Dang.  Those sets suck hard. 

I guess Hasbro was tired of people asking for them to finish the Jedi Council so they just pushed a bunch of crap at us.  I can't wait for next year when they say, "Gee we don't listen to collectors anymore.  They begged and begged for Jedi Council.  When we gave them what they wanted, no one bought it"

*ugh*

I hate when they re-use figures for these sets, but them to reuse the same figure for two sets IN A ROW, that's an all new low for Hasbro, and that says a lot  :-[

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on September 1, 2004, 01:53 PM
Well, SaeSae is passable. The rest sucks in the hardest way I can imagine.

I guess Hasbro was tired of people asking for them to finish the Jedi Council so they just pushed a bunch of crap at us.  I can't wait for next year when they say, "Gee we don't listen to collectors anymore.  They begged and begged for Jedi Council.  When we gave them what they wanted, no one bought it"

Worse than that, they've killed the whole Screen Scene idea... again.  ::) We got some really cool figures of good quality out of the first rounds, even for PT figures. There's just no chance for a return to quality after these sets.  >:(
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Darby on September 1, 2004, 03:05 PM
I've never seen anything intentionally go out of its way to suck like these have.  Good lord.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Nicklab on September 1, 2004, 11:03 PM
Oooh, Agen Kolar has a brown undertunic!  What incredibly precise and creative paint apps on Hasbro's part.  It's times like this that I really dislike being even a loose completist.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on September 1, 2004, 11:19 PM
Nice point about THEM killing the Screen Scenes Jared, and not us, but unfortunately we'll hear the same old rhetoric down the road where, "Well these were poor sellers at retail, so since they can't sell we're scrapping the idea...  Blah blah blah."

They are disappointing.  Some of the few action figure sets I've actually never picked up.  Holding off to at the least get something for free when I buy them, or perhaps a sale. :(

TRU's supposedly opening itself to the notion of price dropping in a timely fashion to better compete with big-box retailers, so we shall see.

The Eeth Sloth, to me, is the worst.  I mean...  Good lord.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: CorranHorn on September 2, 2004, 06:45 AM
the TRU exclusive screen scenes are the epitome of the suckiness that is hasbro. it's quite disgusting of them to try to pass this stuff as something new and unique and it is a slap in the face of kids and collectors alike. these will all sit on tru shelves for months (or perhaps years) thru xmas until tru realizes they have another hasbro stinker on their hands and finally clearance them out.

nataku is right in saying that hasbro will likely use the poor sales of this tripe to claim thay they shouldnt listen to us collectors, well if they do that, they can just **** off!
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on September 2, 2004, 08:54 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/ShutUpHasbro.jpg)


haha, j/k...  I made this about something at another site, incase I wanna whip this one out and i wanted to test it.  Carry on please.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Muftak on September 3, 2004, 07:46 AM
I'm gonna go against the grain and plauy a little Devil's Advocate here...

I seem to remember a lot of folks saying they wanted all the Jedi Council figures made, no matter what. Thanks to these sets, t has happened.

I remember seeing people post "All I want is a (insert Jedi name) who can sit down like they did in the council scene with softgoods skirt and knee joints" Thanks to these sets, you've gotten quite a few of those.

Look, the first two sets were marginally decent: new characters, new sculpts. Some folks bought six of them to complete the Council circle. If you didn't, well, at least you now have the option of picking up sets with different figures to complete your scene.

It's sort of a case of being careful what you wish for, 'cause if you keep saying "I don't care how it gets done, I want the full Jedi Council Screen Scene," boy are you gonna get it.

(BTW, I never wanted one, I haven't bought a single one of these sets, and I don't expect to now.)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on September 3, 2004, 10:43 AM
So how many of you have been picking up these council sets (the ones that are out anyways)?  The first one (maybe second too, not sure) has been sitting at our local TRU for quite some time, but I haven't picked it up yet.  It seems like a rip off to me for $20, but at the same time I do kind of want to have the entire council "circle".  Have most of you picked it up, passing for sure, or waiting out a clearance on these?  Just curious what some of you are doing.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on September 3, 2004, 10:54 AM
I have the first 4, thinking about passing on these last two though.  And I think Bobb you have a point, but, and its a big butt, we usually put too much faith in Hasbro that they wouldn't cut as many corners as they did, especially after seeing how awesome the first two sets (plus the War Room Sets) were with all new figures.  There was a leap of faith that the rest of the figures would follow this path and they haven't even come close to that...why not retool Coleman Trebor a little to have him seated in the Council?  Or why not wait a few months and have 2 sets of Episode III Council Members...
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: jokabofe on September 3, 2004, 02:21 PM
So how many of you have been picking up these council sets (the ones that are out anyways)? 

i nabbed the first two when they came out back when. these others? well, just to echo others sentiments, they suck. hard. but i want them, just for the bases, so i can have a complete jedi council. i'll probably nab them when they go to clearance. but then again, in my area, as soon as i hear something is on clearance it's usually too late and they all disappear. so who knows. if i walk down the street tomorrow and find an extra $100, maybe i'll go to toys r us and pick them up. but then again, maybe not.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on September 3, 2004, 02:48 PM
I'm all in - twice, as usual.   :-[  But yeah, these SUCK.  The only real good thing to come out of these, as has already been stated numerous times here, is that you'll eventually be able to put together the entire Council diorama (chairs, floors, etc.).

Well, maybe they should've just made the entire Council into a regular boxed playset, with like one or two exclusive Jedi figures in it, and sold it for $20 and been done with it.  Forget all this rehashed crap.

On a side note, I've thought the whole Agen Kolar thing was very odd, since he was never on the Council, and the figure is just Eeth Koth.  But down at SDCC last month, when I saw that set in person, the name on the package said Eeth Koth, not Agen Kolar, which I thought was odd, but at least correct.  I even commented on that to Jared, saying at least they got the name right, and weren't trying to bull**** us into thinking the same exact figure was actually two entirely different characters.

Yet Hasbro's still saying (on their site) that it's Kolar.  Wonder what the final packaging at retail will say...  Either way, lame.   ::)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on September 3, 2004, 08:10 PM
Quote
It's sort of a case of being careful what you wish for, 'cause if you keep saying "I don't care how it gets done, I want the full Jedi Council Screen Scene," boy are you gonna get it.

That's exactly why I nitpick...  If they ain't gonna do it right they need the "feedback" then.  And they didn't do it right on these... 

I'll never be one to say "I want it at all costs" because you're right Muftak.  They'll give  it to you...  Bend ya over and all.  It's like saying "I want Biker Scout 4-packs at all costs" when I don't like the Biker Scout figures available.  I want a 4-pack, but only if it's SA scouts that saw a carded release somewhere along the line...  :)  Otherwise I'm ok with having 3 of him (his 3 major variations).
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on September 7, 2004, 01:03 PM
Looks like RoboChris has Scene 3 up for Auction, look for these in a month
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: SilverZ on September 16, 2004, 02:44 AM
Better images... you can actually feel the suck:

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001Z93I4.01.PT01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001Z93IO.01.PT01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 12, 2004, 09:20 AM
These are out now in Asia...expect them here next month I guess.  Puke
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 12, 2004, 09:21 AM
Oh, and I forgot this:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/stassali.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on November 12, 2004, 09:43 AM
Yeah, Amazon still has a Nov 20th date for these, so I'm expecting to see them just in time for the Holiday crunch...

I think I'll just end up ordering them from Amazon and thusly avoiding the holiday-packed TRU crowds full of Grandmas/Moms fighting over the last "hot" toy for their bratty kids  ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jim on November 12, 2004, 10:30 AM
And the difference on the Adi and Stass figure is?  Just looks like one has a worse paint job than the other.  I feel like a total tool for buying the first few sets.  I feel obligated to add these other hunks of crap to the set.  Nothing like those action poses for the council scene either.  I wonder what kind of salaries these people make coming up with these bright ideas ???  Once again another great idea gets flushed down the can.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 12, 2004, 10:35 AM
The worst part of it is (as someone brought up before) Hasbro can now point at the Pieces of **** and say "See, See, multi-packs don't sell" ::)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jim on November 12, 2004, 04:04 PM
The worst part of it is (as someone brought up before) Hasbro can now point at the Pieces of **** and say "See, See, multi-packs don't sell" ::)

It should be rephrased that overproduced crappy multi-packs dont sell. On the other hand the K-Mart Cantina set #1 was a great idea, but way overproduced.  Its unfortuneate that the outcome of these sets gives us a little input of future multipacks.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 15, 2004, 09:13 AM
Jedi Council III (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001Z93I4/102-3544989-6722557)
Jedi Council IV (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001Z93IO/102-3544989-6722557)

In stock

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-04/stassali.jpg)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Ranat on November 15, 2004, 12:57 PM
Hasbro really screwed these sets up.  ::)

They can't even match the right figures with the right names. That's not Agen Kolar in set 3, thats Eeth Koth. Agen Kolar was in either set 1 or 2, I can't remember which. And what the hell is the difference between Stass Allie and Adi Gallia?
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: evenflow on November 15, 2004, 04:45 PM
The worst part of it is (as someone brought up before) Hasbro can now point at the Pieces of **** and say "See, See, multi-packs don't sell" ::)

I know it sucks. I wish they would do some cooler sets, like the Lars family.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on November 22, 2004, 06:17 PM
Well, I got my sets tonight and they are everything I thought they would be and maybe a bit more?

Here's a shot of the circle together...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/11-04/jedicouncil1.JPG)

And another view of the "Circle of Suck".

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/11-04/jedicouncil2.JPG)

Of interest:

- Adi Gallia and Stass Allie are EXACTLY the same, just Stass is a bit darker.  They look very poor next to each other.   :-\

- Shaak Ti only re-uses the arms and head of the Saga version.  Very nice new legs and torso, along with a great new paint job on the head!

- Agen Kolar is EXACTLY the same as the PotJ version.  On a positive note, they did at least give him the saber for his belt.

:)

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 06:50 PM
Jeff, any chance you can remove all those random "third wheel" (standing) figures, so we can see what the Council would more accurately look like with just 12 seated Jedi (nevermind the fact that we can't get the correct 12 Jedi seated in there)...  I'd like to see a shot of how it should look, in a not so crowded state with all those dumb visitors intruding in on the Council's party.

Also, can you please straighten out Ki-Adi too?  He should be flashing his upskirt shot to Shaak Ti, not Plo-Koon.  That's just wrong.  Besides, Plo's already getting an eyeful from that hottie Yaddle from across the way...

No what I mean, Vern?   :-*

Still looks cool to see it all put together like that though.  Congrats on completing the Circle of Suck.   8)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jim on November 22, 2004, 07:18 PM
Congrats on completing the Circle of Suck.   8)

That sums it up perfectly.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on November 22, 2004, 10:40 PM
Jeff, any chance you can remove all those random "third wheel" (standing) figures, so we can see what the Council would more accurately look like with just 12 seated Jedi (nevermind the fact that we can't get the correct 12 Jedi seated in there)...  I'd like to see a shot of how it should look, in a not so crowded state with all those dumb visitors intruding in on the Council's party.

How's this:

Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 22, 2004, 11:42 PM
Man...some people might think this was...Duh Duh Duh...NEWS :P
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 22, 2004, 11:53 PM
And...by removing Shaak Ti and Stass Allie and adding Depa Biliba and Even Piell you'd have a great Episode I council, but by leaving them out and not having Coleman "Teenage Man Crush" Trebor in there, its like some sort of weird time period when Adi's cousin Stass was Jedi Council member for an hour and Yaddle and Yarael Poof were still alive
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: jokabofe on November 23, 2004, 12:40 AM
And...by removing Shaak Ti and Stass Allie and adding Depa Biliba and Even Piell you'd have a great Episode I council, but by leaving them out and not having Coleman "Teenage Man Crush" Trebor in there, its like some sort of weird time period when Adi's cousin Stass was Jedi Council member for an hour and Yaddle and Yarael Poof were still alive

Don't you mean Adi's cousin Adi(i)??  ;D
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on November 23, 2004, 08:23 AM
"Circle of Suck"....I like that.  I haven't bought any of these sets since the initial two....I just couldn't bring myself to spend $20 on these for some reason.  But now, unfortunately, after seeing the whole circle together, I kind of want them again.  It still seems like too much to pay, for the rehashtastic sets that are out now, but I do like seeing that whole circle "complete".  It is a little more tempting after seeing Jeff's pics.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 23, 2004, 09:11 AM
I'll buy them when they show up at TRU because that complete "Circle of Suck" looks pretty when assembled, it just sucks they went exclusive on these and other retailers wouldn't support the concept anymore.  We may have gotten some better figures :-\
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: iFett on November 23, 2004, 10:34 AM
I also plan on picking up the "new" sets to complete the circle.  I have hundreds of carded figures and have only opened a Ep1 Maul in the modern line.  I do plan though on opening all six sets to form the circle.  That was my original intention when I caught the word from Hasbro.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on November 23, 2004, 06:27 PM
How's this:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4448.0;id=225;image)

Yeah, now we're talkin'.  That's much better, and obviously more screen accurate without all the doofs standing between every other chair.  Looks real nice that way, figure accuracy aside, of course.

Now it's even more of a shame that we haven't gotten all of the correct figures, with articulated knees.  If Hasbro had half a freakin' brain, they would've just released this thing as a $20 playset, with one or two exclusive pack-in Jedi figures, and then just have found a way to get us the rest of the JC we still needed to fill it up.  This would've also gotten rid of the various "lines" running throughout the floor where the parts are segregated.  A nice two part backdrop of the Coruscant sky to fill the entire JC up (or just half of it) would've been a great touch too...

But the set itself, as it currently stands, definitely still looks excellent.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Snively Bandar on November 24, 2004, 02:44 AM
Wow.  Very nice looking shot there Nataku!  I've got to agree with JediMAC that it looks even nicer without all the extra standing figures.  Almost good enough to make me change my mind and consider buying the last 2 sets, but I can't bear to pay that much money for a couple pieces of flooring, and 6 piece of crap figures.  I'll have to think about it, but thanks for the motivation!
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: DSJ™ on November 30, 2004, 09:27 AM
You have got to be ******* kidding me!

 OTC Jedi Council Scene 3 MISB AFA U-100 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=5935666020&rd=1)

Why people waste $$$ on AFA stuff!  ::)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jim on November 30, 2004, 01:02 PM
Some dumbass could of bought 16 of those sets for the winning price.  Must be nice to have money to piss away. 
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Scott on November 30, 2004, 01:06 PM
I seriously wonder what the hell is wrong with people on this stuff...this is a $10 set...$10!!!!  So long $320, I don't need you...amazing what fools some people are...and the winner wasn't the only one willing to pay over $300 for this piece of ****
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on November 30, 2004, 01:13 PM
That is just unbelievable.  I can't believe the money some people must have to just throw away.  I haven't even been able to talk myself into paying $20 for this, let alone $300+.  I guess I've never understood the fascination with grading modern figures like this anyways, but to each their own.  The only "single piece" from the collectible world that I would spend that type of money on would be a MOC or MIMB Star Wars vintage piece.  It is mind boggling to me that people would pay $300 for a Jedi Council set you can buy on Amazon...graded or not.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: DSJ™ on November 30, 2004, 01:23 PM
Wish I had the bidders money!  :o

Current and recent auctions bid on by andrealynette (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&sort=3&userid=andrealynette&completed=1&all=0&rows=200&sacategory=-1&sotrvalue=1&nojspr=y&sofocus=bs&sosortproperty=1&satitle=&saslop=1&sotrtype=1&catref=C6&sorecordsperpage=50&sacqtyop=ge&sosortorder=1&from=R7&nojspr=y&pfid=0)

Absolutely insane!  ::)

JORG SACUL AFA 100  (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5933600237)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on November 30, 2004, 01:25 PM
Wow.  Insane.  And I was figuring it was at least BOTH of the new Council sets, but no.  Just #3.  THREE people bidding over $30 on that?  Scary...

I think these folks are more collectors of top grade AFA than they are of Star Wars, 'cause that just makes NO sense whatsoever.

Anyone scope out the other stuff the buyer's bid on lately?  I'd be curious to see how common this is for him...
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JediMAC on November 30, 2004, 01:26 PM
Wish I had the bidders money!  :o

Current and recent auctions bid on by andrealynette (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&sort=3&userid=andrealynette&completed=1&all=0&rows=200&sacategory=-1&sotrvalue=1&nojspr=y&sofocus=bs&sosortproperty=1&satitle=&saslop=1&sotrtype=1&catref=C6&sorecordsperpage=50&sacqtyop=ge&sosortorder=1&from=R7&nojspr=y&pfid=0)

Of course, as I'm typing my response up, Dale's WAY ahead of me.  Cool!   8)

Yeah, looks like the Jedi Council bid is just the tip of the iceberg.  $400 for the Jorg Sacul.  $100+ for an AFA 90 OTC C-3PO?  Definitely a millionaire, or a mentally challenged person.  Not sure which...
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: DSJ™ on November 30, 2004, 01:27 PM
Wish I had the bidders money!  :o

Current and recent auctions bid on by andrealynette (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&sort=3&userid=andrealynette&completed=1&all=0&rows=200&sacategory=-1&sotrvalue=1&nojspr=y&sofocus=bs&sosortproperty=1&satitle=&saslop=1&sotrtype=1&catref=C6&sorecordsperpage=50&sacqtyop=ge&sosortorder=1&from=R7&nojspr=y&pfid=0)

Of course, as I'm typing my response up, Dale's WAY ahead of me.  Cool!   8)

 :-*
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 30, 2004, 09:28 PM
  Definitely a millionaire, or a mentally challenged person.  Not sure which...

He must've won the lottery!  How else can you afford to bid like that?   ::)

Of course, who knows what I'd blow my money on if I had big bucks like that.  ;)
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2005, 02:57 PM
Just like the Naboo set I just posted on, I picked up one of these from Amazon!

Star Wars: 3.75 Jedi Council Scene Plo, Eeth, Obi-Wan = $7.50 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001NE7I2/jedidefend-20)

I was ordering some stuff anyway and I couldn't resist some decent Jedi Custom Fodder for $2.50 per figure!

Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Ryan on August 13, 2005, 05:34 AM
Just like the Naboo set I just posted on, I picked up one of these from Amazon!

Star Wars: 3.75 Jedi Council Scene Plo, Eeth, Obi-Wan = $7.50 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001NE7I2/jedidefend-20)

I was ordering some stuff anyway and I couldn't resist some decent Jedi Custom Fodder for $2.50 per figure!



Nice find. I remember I found the first sets on clearance for $3 a while back.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: CorranHorn on August 15, 2005, 06:59 PM
Wow that's crazy, every TRU I have gone to lately has had the Screen Scenes still at $19.99. The ironic thing is, they aren't in the main SW section, they're off to the side in another area. And of course there are dozens upon dozens of these things. I'd buy em for $3 :P
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Jesse James on August 15, 2005, 08:01 PM
I'd buy them just for the base at that price, but the fodder's great too.

Shame those later sets were so poor compared to the originals.  There are some actually really great figures in those first two 3-packs for the Council.  Yarael Poof and Oppo still rank as 2 of my favorite Jedi figures.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 21, 2005, 08:24 PM
I have to agree with Jesse that Yarael Poof and Oppo are great figures that came out of the first  two sets. I have never purchased the last 2, waiting for that frozen day in hell when TRU marks them down to a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: jedistyle on August 28, 2005, 12:29 PM
i picked up the last 2 sets in august at tru for $9.99 each. i was tempted to grad 2 more just for jedi fooder but didn't. i wish the first sets where hanging around like these, i missed out on those!
Title: Re: Jedi Council sets 3 & 4
Post by: Brian on April 18, 2008, 12:14 PM
With the Star Wars "break" coming up here until July (although there's still plenty of stuff to track down), I've kind of started looking at some holes in my collection of things I had to skip when they were originally released.  I always regretted that I couldn't pick up the rest of these Jedi Council sets when they were released (I got the first two, in the Saga packaging), and was hoping to someday grab them just to have the bases/chairs so I could "complete the circle".  I think it would be a neat idea to somehow re-release the entire circle with some of the upgraded Jedi in a pack of some sort, but I'm guessing I'd be in the minority there.  For the heck of it, I clicked on the link Jeff posted to Amazon a few years ago - and the price for one of the sets was $99.95 (through a different company).  Yikes.  I should have grabbed these when they were clearanced out, but just didn't have the funds at the time.  Do many of you have a big council display with all the sets together?  That was one of my favorite things about the prequels, it was kind of cool to see the Jedi Council.