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Title: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jeff on September 13, 2011, 05:43 PM
RIP, Saga Legends.   :-\

Welcome, Movie Heroes.

From the Q&A at SWAN (http://www.swactionnews.com):
"There will be three packaging line looks in 2012 - Movie Heroes, which includes Episode 1 and all other episodes; The Clone Wars Animated, and the Vintage Collection.  Saga Legends is being replaced by Movie Heroes as the assortment that includes characters from all six films."


Nice to see them confirm how many lines there will be and how they are planning to use that new Maul card design that popped up a while back... should be interested in see the Legends repacks on that new Maul card alongside some of the new TPM stuff (like that Walmart exlcusive wave is supposed to be).
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on September 13, 2011, 07:11 PM
Hmm, "movie heroes".  Interesting name...  Curious though, why the change in names ultimately?  Ruling out EU all together I guess?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: darth_sidious on September 13, 2011, 08:20 PM
The name change is probably just a gimmick for the sake of retailers, but its interesting to point out that EU might be left out of that line.  But I fully expect the good EU figures to continue popping up in the vintage collection.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on September 13, 2011, 08:58 PM
Movie Heroes? So does that mean there are no villians for them to "fight" against in the line?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on September 13, 2011, 09:38 PM
Movie Heroes? So does that mean there are no villians for them to "fight" against in the line?

Well, according to Sith, there are heroes on both sides... So Grevious is a hero, from a certain point of view.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Diddly on September 14, 2011, 02:21 AM
Darn, I saw "Saga Legends Dead" and got excited. Other than a few select figures, the line has caused nothing but headaches. Looks like "Movie Heroes" will be more of the same ole same ole. Can't wait for more Vaders, Obi-Wans, Anakins, etc. ::)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: McMetal on September 14, 2011, 08:44 AM
They just need to stop jamming the pegs meant for the Clone Wars and Vintage figures with all that Legends garbage. The 3 closest Walmarts around here are at least 70% Legends swag right now. One case of that junk will hang around for months...it's obscene.

And I've still literally NEVER seen anyone buy one of those figures.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: evenflow on September 14, 2011, 10:35 AM
I wish the packaging was drastically diferent for these, i think that would help stores realize they re different.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on September 14, 2011, 10:52 AM
Although it is likely just "Saga Legends" with a new name, it would nice to see them change it up a little bit.  There have been exceptions lately, but otherwise it seems like that line has been the same figures released continually over the past few years.  Sure, from one point of view that is sort of the point of it but at the same time I think they could vary up the lineups (and avoid the doubling up vs. CW and TVC).

I've always hoped (as long as we had a line like this around) that they would just fill it with main characters (the ultimate versions) and army builders.  Incorporate figures like VOTC Han, the Falcon Pack Luke and R2, the recent Jedi Luke, Qui-Gon, any of the recent Obi-Wans and even the occasional main/supporting characters like Lando, Yoda, Fetts, etc.  A lot of those have already been used and will always be (Anakin, Obi-Wan, Vader, Grievous, etc.), but we've really gotten a lot of pretty much perfect versions of the main characters and army builders from across the Saga that could just be trotted out all the time - sort of like the original vintage line in a way where characters like Vader, Chewie, the droids, and the troopers were used across all three original movies.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: CHEWIE on September 14, 2011, 12:03 PM
Maybe they'll quit using outdated molds in this line, like they do with Maul and Fett each time they put one into Legends... probably just wishful thinking.  I'm sure this is more of the same.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on September 14, 2011, 07:02 PM
Hmm, "movie heroes".  Interesting name...  Curious though, why the change in names ultimately?  Ruling out EU all together I guess?

Get those space troopers while you can! 

Hopefully these will be the same figures we've come to know and love from LEGENDS but in attractive new packaging and at a higher price point.  :P

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jeff on September 28, 2011, 05:17 PM
Interesting notes on the "Movie Heroes" basic figure line came up in the recent RS Forcecast interview with Derryl Depriest.  The "Movie Heroes" line is not just Saga Legends with a new name... there will indeed be plenty of "new" figures in this line since it's essentially going to be the main TPM movie line.

The line will focus on TPM for a while (at least for the movie's run) and then will move into the classic "best characters" style thing from the rest of the saga.  There will be a mix of repacks and new stuff... but the new figures will be "kid targeted", meaning ACTION FEATURES(!) like the rumored light-up effect/saber figures.  Due to the action features, the articulation will be more limited than the Vintage Collection stuff.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on September 28, 2011, 05:21 PM
Great...  Less articulation, action features on realistic figures...  just great.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on September 28, 2011, 05:22 PM
That makes it interesting that there will be 'new' figures with action/light up features. Not sure I'll venture over to that line, but maybe glowing lightsabers, 2-1B's eyes and torso or Jawa eyes could do it.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on September 28, 2011, 05:24 PM
True, I'd jump on some of that, but at $9 or more?  I'm going to be really reluctant to buy anything I think just flat out sucks, but has a neat novelty built into it.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on September 28, 2011, 05:27 PM
I agree, Jesse. $9 and limited articulation would suck, since Vintage is supposed to be the high-end line. But I don't think 2-1B needs a lot of articulation to be good enough to get. But glowing lightsabers (if they do that)? Not sure how they'd do that (I'm thinking the vintage-slide lightsabers).
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jeff on September 28, 2011, 05:31 PM
But glowing lightsabers (if they do that)?

They already confirmed at SDCC this year that they will have some figures with light-up sabers in the 2012 line, so they are definitely coming...
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on September 28, 2011, 05:33 PM
I'd have to see whatever it is to reserve judgment...  i still buy 2-1B POTF2 figures for cheap when I see them.

The key there is "for cheap" though...  Is a 2-1B with POTF2 levels of articulation and possibly some "deformity" due to the feature worth $9 since he lights up?  Again, I'd have to see it to decide that...  Same on sabers.  Might be cool, but price factors in a lot once it becomes a novelty, at least from my perspective.  I hope it sells to kids, but these days folks are cutting back and what stuff costs plays a bigger role I think, than it had been anyway for a lot of years.

I'm into the idea, I just feel it sounds like a lot more spreading out of the line now...  Though if Legends are canned, I guess it's contracted a bit too from one end.  I dunno. 

I just automatically start thinking 2002 though...  For me, it's the worst time in the hobby, and was far worse than things are now.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on September 28, 2011, 05:59 PM
Would a new 2-1B would debut as a kid oriented action feature release?

I dislike action features, like articulation and have passed on a few Clone Wars releases just due to their lack of ankle joints.

If this is want they want to do to get kids interested in Star Wars figures, ...makes more sense than these occassional short-lived kid-aimed idea like ten-inch Clone Wars figures of a mere 3 characters or that attacktix series. 

Hope the light-up sabers don't look like the electronic power f/x figures with the thick arms and stuff. (The Emperor was amusing with the lightning...only one I got...on clearance)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Nicklab on September 28, 2011, 07:21 PM
The improvements that have come with LED's and fiber optic lighting could make these light up figures potentially cool.  The POTF2 electronic power FX figures were kind of weak, but were probably limited by the technology of their time.  Some characters would obviously work better than others.

JEDI / SITH:  The lightsabers are the obvious thing that people would want to see light-up.  It could be done in a number of ways.  The battery would definitely need to be housed in the body.  From there, either a wire or a fiber optic line would need to be run from the body and into an arm.  The LED would either be in the hand/hilt (wired) or the body (fiber optic).  That arm is going to be limited in articulation, and would likely only be articulated at the shoulder.  An elbow joint might work, but would almost certainly have to be a swivel cut joint.  A removable lightsaber blade would probably be ideal from a play value standpoint, but that design has been problematic.

HOLOGRAMS:  There's some potential here for a number of characters that appeared as holograms.  Darth Sidious, the Neimoidians, Sio Bibble, etc.  It would make the translucent figure that much more interesting.

DROIDS:  2-1B has been mentioned, and has the light up mid-section.  C-3PO could benefit from light up eyes.  And R2-D2 would benefit as would other astromech droids.  Hasbro has gone the electronic route with R2-D2 before, but the LED has always been either the wrong color (ROTS electronic R2-D2) or in the wrong spot (POTF2 power FX R2-D2).  Getting those details right would be most welcome!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on September 28, 2011, 08:56 PM
Not sure what to think of all this.  I've always been in favor of having the "brand" contract into fewer lines, so we're not really gaining anything with the loss of Legends from that standpoint.  I also think that "action features" scares a lot of us as well, depending on what they are.  Granted, a lot of that stuff (such as in the superhero lines or even CW) deals more with the accessories these days than the actual figures, so maybe it won't be as bad as we think.  Also, we'll still have our vintage "collector" figures too I guess.

I just hope they aren't overdoing the push for TPM too.  I've liked what I've seen so far from SDCC, and look forward to what is shown at NYCC, but that movie (1) isn't exactly super popular and (2) will likely only be in theaters for a few weeks, right?  I don't know if we need six months of the year dedicated to Phantom Menace stuff necessarily.  Oh well, either way I'm anxious to see what is in store.  This "movie heroes" line just got more interesting - although I worry even more about duplicating characters across this and TVC.  I think we still need the main characters in the vintage collection, because if we have a line full of background/secondary stuff, it will likely pegwarm and/or get cancelled eventually.  Hopefully they'll balance it well - unless the plan is to eventually phase out vintage.  I know it is planned "through 2012", but I wonder what will happen beyond that.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2011, 01:19 AM
2012 Movie Heroes Wave 1
  2012 MHxx Darth Maul
  2012 MHxx Battle Droid
  2012 MHxx Qui-Gon Jinn
  2012 MHxx Super Battle Droid
  2012 MHxx R2-D2
  2012 MHxx Clone Trooper
  2012 MHxx Clone Trooper (Jetpack)
  2012 MHxx Destroyer Droid
  2012 MHxx Obi-Wan Kenobi
  2012 MHxx General Grievous
  2012 MHxx Darth Vader
  2012 MHxx Yoda

2012 Movie Heroes Wave 1
  2012 MHxx Obi-Wan Kenobi (light-up saber)
  2012 MHxx Darth Maul (light-up saber)
  2012 MHxx Qui-Gon Jinn (light-up saber)
  2012 MHxx Padme Amidala
  2012 MHxx Anakin Skywalker (Pod Race Pilot)
  2012 MHxx Jar Jar Binks

I don't think I'll be buying anything from Wave 1 as those all appear to be repacks (anyone up for deciphering which sculpts all those wave 1 figures are? :P), but that Anakin and JarJar from Wave 2 don't look too bad upon first glance...
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Matt R. on October 15, 2011, 01:43 AM
I am only getting Jar Jar, and Padme.  Anakin is on sight decision. 
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 15, 2011, 03:29 AM
So from Wave 1 of this new line Hasbro's repacking the SA Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan.

For TVC 2012 Wave 1 they're repacking the same Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, plus capes (keep in mind TVC is more expensive than the other basic figure lines).

And for the exclusive Wal-Mart wave, they're repacking the exact same Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan figures, with a pair of 3D glasses for the TPM 3D release.

Does that make any sense?   
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on October 15, 2011, 09:34 AM
I believe R2 is a new sculpt and has tweets out 32 lines... if that makes it new enough for people.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 15, 2011, 09:55 AM
Does that make any sense?   

No it doesn't. It seems utterly ridiculous to me. Why even have the "Wave 1" of this line at all?

Why for the "Discover the Force" line have the Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Destroyer Droid and Darth Maul figures at all?

If I was planning this line, this is what I would have done:

1. Keep the Vintage assortment wave of 12 figures exactly like they already are

2. Scrap the entire Movie Heroes Wave 1 (BTW this wave has done nothing to disprove my theory that Hasbro is contractually obligated to have Darth Vader in EVERY initial wave of a line).

3. Make this Movie Heroes Wave 1:
Where you pack the three light-up figures 2-per case.

4. Make this the Discover the Force Wave for WalMart:

This way, WalMart essentially has their own "Movie Heroes" wave and if someone wanted to, they could stick with buying the collection of 12 from WalMart to get everything "new".

5. Lastly, for the Vintage Collectors, have the Ric Olie and G8-R3 figures also appear in the Vintage line with the other four new figures from the Discover the Force wave. Also, I don't care if it's the same versions as the Movie Heroes ones or ultimate super-articulated versions, but also slot in Tatooine Anakin, Assault on Theed Padme and Jar Jar Binks into the Vintage Collection. The result here is that you show good will by showing Vintage Collectors that you care about continuing to deliver ultimate versions of the most iconic representations of key characters from each of the films in the Vintage packaging format. It will also allow the Vintage collector to choose to skip the Movie Heroes line entirely should they so choose. Which Hasbro should be okay with if it truly is aimed at kids only.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: AJ98 on October 15, 2011, 12:26 PM
i'll be passing any one re-molds or any figures that have less articulation than the ones in stores now. that is all.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on October 16, 2011, 12:51 PM
I'm glad to see stuff like the Jar Jar in the Movie Heroes line are still good, solid figures.

We posted a rumor report describing the figure to you recently on our front page since we couldn't share more, and it's a good figure overall.  It's the Jar Jar everyone wants, who want a definitive one at least.  I was fearful that the Movie Heroes line would be a complete throw-away for me as a collector but it seems like a couple gems will be there.

The thing is too, that I may nab the light-up saber figures (or Qui Gonn anyway) just to have one.  they may get me to pick some things up from a line I was thinking may be completely off my radar like Legends has pretty much been for a while now.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 16, 2011, 01:52 PM
We posted a rumor report describing the figure to you recently on our front page since we couldn't share more, and it's a good figure overall.  It's the Jar Jar everyone wants, who want a definitive one at least.

But is this really supposed to be THE definitive version of Jar-Jar that we've been wanting? I mean, yeah, the sculpt is good, but he's missing some important articulation (wrists, ankles). And then he's also included in a kid's line. I'm hoping Hasbro brings a totally SA Jar-Jar to TVC.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scott on October 16, 2011, 02:20 PM
Doesn't look like he has ball jointed shoulders either
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on October 16, 2011, 02:36 PM
One I saw had ball jointed shoulders, I'm almost positive, and I would think Jar Jar (just for him being who he is and all) would almost be more well received in this line than Vintage.  Kids actually do like him.

Maybe he's not super duper, but he's pretty well articulated and sculpted.  I think this is it, personally.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2011, 03:11 PM
I'm looking forward to Jar Jar as well.  I think that this big TPM push next year might be our last chance to get a lot of the characters/figures from that movie.  Regular releases have been few and far between, and it looks like they are covering a lot of "wants" from this movie in the various lines next year.  I just hope the first wave of this line isn't so overshipped that we never see the "new" stuff from Wave 2 like Jar Jar, Anakin, and Padme.

Like Jesse, I suspect I may end up picking up one of the light up saber figures just for the heck of it.  We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on November 10, 2011, 11:11 PM
Sandtroopers.com has carded pictures of wave 1.

ROTS Quick Draw Clone Trooper is back...actually it's the Shock Trooper from Revenge of the Child Birthing Hips...er...Sith

No extra shoulder armor this time.

Yes, the Battle Droid is the old AOTC deluxe C-3PO "droid factory" mold, with the removable head, arms and legs. Only one per card now but with the Clone Wars battle droid spring action launcher. (why isn't there a barf emoticon?)

Battle Droid has CIS symbol on his game card, but Super Battle droid and Destroyer Droid have some other symbol I'm not familiar with.

Everything else is what was expected (bad molds except for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, who get spring-action grapple launchers). Carded Jar Jar but no loose image. No other wave 2 shown.

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Nicklab on November 11, 2011, 12:40 AM
Meh.

Glad that I can focus on the TVC line and skip almost ALL of this line.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 11, 2011, 10:00 AM
I have a bad feeling about these things crowding the pegs. It's already hard enough to find Vintage collection figures with all the Clone Wars and Legends **** hanging around. This stuff is going to be even worse than Legends.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on November 11, 2011, 02:37 PM
Ditto.  I understand why they are trying out this line and everything, and I'll pick up things here and there I'm sure as well, but I really worry about the first wave clogging things up terrible as well.  I'll admit, the pegs (at least at some stores) have been kept seperate (Vintage/CW/Legends) better than in the past (CW and Legends still get mixed together some) - and hopefully that continues next year.  I'd hate to not be able to find the waves of vintage because Movie Heroes has consumed the entire section.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 11, 2011, 07:38 PM
I know I've expressed similar sentiments before, but after seeing this latest batch of photos (the 2005 Quick-Drawn Clone?  The 2002 Deluxe Droid Factory Battle Droid?  REALLY?), I'm convinced that this is all some kind of expensive prank on the part of Hasbro, or the genius who was in charge of the 2002 line has been reappointed to head the SW brand.  It's as if Hasbro just threw up their hands and said "**** it."  I just can't figure out the logic in some of these figure choices. 

Even if we grant Hasbro the "fact" that yes, kids love their action features, I don't think anyone is going to say that kids also like horribly dated and substandard crap.  Combined with the almost total lack of new Clone Wars stuff next year and what will likely be yet another wonderful (sarcasm heavily implied) distribution year for Vintage, I think this is indicative of the worst year in SW action figure history during the modern era. 

Oh well, Lego will be getting even more of my money than previously planned.  :P
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on November 11, 2011, 08:22 PM
I don't think most kids and parents now the difference between the Quick-Draw Clones and the SA ones. They'll just buy it because Bobby wants it.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on November 11, 2011, 11:09 PM
Lotsa money saved here...  The more old **** they put out the more the current prices are a kick in the dick, to put it bluntly.

No excuse to go back to a single BD in a pack like this IMO.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Diddly on November 12, 2011, 03:35 AM
Oh well, Lego will be getting even more of my money than previously planned.  :P

You and me both, brotha
Title: Re: Star Wars Movie Heroes Collection
Post by: 501ST on December 5, 2011, 11:55 AM
Already don't bother with SL and haven't bought one of these for some time and from the images I've seen of the "movie heroes" line nothing will change this.

*Yawn*
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on December 6, 2011, 11:41 AM
We posted a rumor report describing the figure to you recently on our front page since we couldn't share more, and it's a good figure overall.  It's the Jar Jar everyone wants, who want a definitive one at least.

But is this really supposed to be THE definitive version of Jar-Jar that we've been wanting? I mean, yeah, the sculpt is good, but he's missing some important articulation (wrists, ankles). And then he's also included in a kid's line. I'm hoping Hasbro brings a totally SA Jar-Jar to TVC.

TVC Jar Jar and MH Jar Jar are different. (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2011/12/06/yakfacehasbro-qna-final-for-2011/#more-5025)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on December 6, 2011, 11:48 AM
TVC Jar Jar and MH Jar Jar are different. (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2011/12/06/yakfacehasbro-qna-final-for-2011/#more-5025)

Hooray! I can skip this JJ.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 6, 2011, 11:57 AM
Hopefully the VC one will have a more expressive face. It would be great if the MH JJ head fits on it too for variety.

Whatever you say about the MH line in general at least there is some newness. I hope they take adavntage of repaints like the VC45 Clone and such.

Now they just need a new Tarpels...
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 14, 2011, 02:00 PM
I'm especially glad this first wave seems like an easy pass with how much money wave 10 Vintage is going to put me back. Ouch.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on December 14, 2011, 04:31 PM
Yeah, a couple tempt me almost, but I think I'll be just walking away from all of these...  I just can't justify it at this point.  They're really bad older figures, and the new ones aren't any great shakes either except maybe Jar Jar.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on December 14, 2011, 09:22 PM
These have shown up already in Mexico! That's a good place for them. They can all be shipped there.  ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Blaster under the pillow on January 11, 2012, 04:21 AM
The second wave of these showed up here in the UK, I pulled the trigger on Qui Gon and Obi Wan with the light up sabers and the Jar Jar.

For the curious, the Jedi heads are not directly exchangeable to their vintage counterparts, some modifications to neck posts or heads would be necessary, not to mention skin tone issues. Both heads are superior though, particularly the Qui Gon in my opinion. The colors of theirs Jedi garb also seem more accurate.

Both have the same level of articulation:

Ball jointed head
Swivel shoulders (the lightsaber arm only swivels part way)
Ball jointed left elbow
Swivel left wrist
Swivel hips
Ball jointed knees

Both also have removable lower tunics, presumably so they can sit.
The lightsabers are very bright but the batteries are non replaceable according a disclaimer inside the packaging, so go easy on that dueling. I'm really surprised they haven't released a Maul with the same feature... surely kids are going to want someone to fight... maybe he's coming later.

Overall the gimmick is nice for kids, I guess it's 2012's version of the telescoping saber, but it would have been nice if these heads had turned up on the vintage versions

Jar Jar has a strange head joint, it's kind of like  a tiny loose ball joint inside the neck that gives the head a kind of tilting motion, which looks good from the angle it's tilted towards and awful from others. He's also got a swivel waist and shoulders and jointed wrists and knees. As I don't own any previous versions of  him I felt compelled to pick him up, but I'm hoping the vintage one rumored, is going to have more going for it. The weapon he came with has got some serious power.

The projectile is still at large somewhere in my living room.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 11, 2012, 07:33 AM
If my eyes don't deceive me, I would swear that Hasbro just brought back clone trooper #6 with a $10 plus tax price tag.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12426410 (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12426410)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Phrubruh on January 11, 2012, 09:30 AM
I saw lots of those at Walmart. It's pretty sad.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on January 11, 2012, 10:51 AM
If my eyes don't deceive me, I would swear that Hasbro just brought back clone trooper #6 with a $10 plus tax price tag.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12426410 (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12426410)

It's all a bad dreaaaaam.

Based on pictures at Galactic Hunter, it seems that Shock Trooper has just the one shoulder armor piece with the logo on it. I'd think they'd use the one without the logo, but if you are gonna reissue something no one wants, you might as well make it inaccurate, too.

I'm also amused they've bothered to keep painting the rifle's stock brown, too. All the "rising costs" and "save money" talk and they keep paint apps that few care about.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 11, 2012, 10:54 AM
I saw lots of those at Walmart. It's pretty sad.

Dude they dug that thing up from 2005, dusted it off, and started pumping out more clone #6's?  Oh that is terrible.  It wasn't a good sculpt then.  Clone 41 came out right after that and was vastly superior in every way.  That was 7 years ago.

It seems to me that Hasbro is offering infinitely more crap than good stuff for 2012 so far.  Hopefully they have something good planned for the Fall because there are going to be pegwarmers galore until then.  And the price hike is exactly what they don't need to get that stuff moving.  Most of that movie heroes (legends) line stuff has been replaced by superior figures already.   They should have left us with just the legend of their greatness instead of putting them out again.  I can't imagine they are going to make money on that.

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jeff on January 11, 2012, 11:19 AM
What about that Jetpack Clone Trooper?  He was a $10 deluxe last time he was on the pegs (2005).  Almost seems like a bargain having him in the Movie Heroes line for $9-10 compared to all the $5 figures being recycled into this line for $9-10 now. :P
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 11, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jeff you are an eternal optimist.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on January 11, 2012, 02:06 PM
Dude they dug that thing up from 2005, dusted it off, and started pumping out more clone #6's?  Oh that is terrible.  It wasn't a good sculpt then.  Clone 41 came out right after that and was vastly superior in every way.  That was 7 years ago.

And to dig up a debate from 7 years ago...it was NOT superiour in every way, just most ways. The #6 clone could actually sit down, the #41 risked tearing the hip joints or the hips becoming extremely loose (which is also why the carded 2005 ROTS AT-RT driver sucked for its intended purpose).

The Jet Pack clone mold is superiour to both in its ability to sit while not having wide-hips, but from the waist up has pre-2000 levels of articulation (Hasbro likes to make deluxe figures worse than single carded ones, see Captain America).

Of course that didn't matter to folks who wanted rows of rows of identical figures standing on a shelf.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on January 11, 2012, 02:29 PM
Although it is nothing, that is something I don't get.  If they are going to re-use and repackage figures, why not use the best versions available?  I can understand them wanting to put in things like the "light up" saber figures, and maybe some other action featurey stuff for kids, but for the figures that are getting straight repackages, why not use the best versions available.  I've often said I wouldn't mind a Legends/Heroes/type line if it was just filled with Hasbro's "best of the best" from across the Saga.  If it was filled with the VOTC/VTSC/TVC/Evolutions figure quality (and some from the other basic lines), it wouldn't be so bad as something for either new collectors, kids, or casual buyers.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: CHEWIE on January 11, 2012, 03:27 PM
Yep, I've seen several cases of these "new" movie heroes at Wal-Mart the past week - I'm just letting them hang and am grabbing the new vintage figures I want.

Of note, in my area the Movie Heroes are $7.96 - both the new CW and Vintage are $8.96.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 22, 2012, 04:15 AM
Has anyone been able to confirm whether R2 is a different electronic version than the one we've seen released in the past?

I believe I've got this accurately:

Wave 1
MH01 - Shock Trooper (Ep III)
MH02 - Super Battle Droid
MH03 - R2-D2
MH04 - Battle Droid
MH05 - Darth Maul - 1 hand on saber
MH06 - Darth Vader
MH07 - General Grievous
MH08 - Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ep I)
MH09 - Yoda
MH10 - Qui-Gon Jinn
MH11 - Clone Trooper (Ep III w/jetpack)
MH12 - Destroyer Droid

Wave 2
MH13 - Jar Jar Binks
MH14 - Anakin Skywalker (Ep I)
MH15 - Darth Maul - 2 hands on saber
MH16 - Obi-Wan Kenobi - light-up saber
MH17 - Padme Amidala
MH18?? - Qui-Gon Jinn - light-up saber
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on January 22, 2012, 07:50 AM
The one I have doesn't sound all that different. I can check quick though to confirm.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on January 22, 2012, 03:18 PM
Hasbro said R2 came with 32 phrases and I would think that's the most so far. So I think that part is new.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Phrubruh on January 22, 2012, 03:22 PM
So is this R2 different from all the other beeping R2s? New paint? New sculpt?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on January 22, 2012, 08:58 PM
If only they'd include a Leia or Luke Hologram and some phrases from them.

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on January 22, 2012, 11:53 PM
So is this R2 different from all the other beeping R2s? New paint? New sculpt?



It is the same electronic sculpt as prior electronic versions but he does have new sounds. And there are in fact 32 different fx.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2012, 12:01 AM
I'm easily still passing on this, but having many phrases is at least kind of nice/neat since the technology has evolved since that first figure.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on January 23, 2012, 12:18 AM
Yeah, they sound pretty good. I'm working on a recording.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Darby on January 27, 2012, 07:00 PM
Found a red variant of the MH Battle Droid today at TRU.  For anyone that cares.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2012, 01:48 AM
Saw Movie Heroes crap... and wow, do I mean crap.

What a dismal sight those are on the pegs.  And the paintjobs.  Oh lord are they terrible on some of those figures.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 30, 2012, 07:26 AM
Found a red variant of the MH Battle Droid today at TRU.  For anyone that cares.

My TRU has the MH carded one hanging on the pegs for 9.99, and still has a few of the Saga Legends 2 packs for less than that.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Phrubruh on January 30, 2012, 09:11 AM
It's pretty sad when a store has the same figure on different cards marked at two different prices and neither one will sell.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Diddly on January 31, 2012, 12:03 AM
The scary thing is that most of these figures were considered terrible back when they were originally released ten years ago!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 31, 2012, 08:18 AM
This line is clogging up the pegs at 3 Wal-Marts I went to yesterday.  So, frustrating. 
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jeff on January 31, 2012, 11:11 AM
My local Target had the TPM endcap set up yesterday...  four pegs for Vintage, four pegs for Clone Wars, and eight pegs for Movie Heroes.  Shouldn't be too long before the four CW pegs are filled up with MH stuff too.  :P
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2012, 02:41 PM
This line is clogging up the pegs at 3 Wal-Marts I went to yesterday.  So, frustrating.

This line is clogging the pegs at every store I go to (x4 WM's, x2 TRUs, x4 Targets and a K-Mart). The Battle Droid is mind boggling. They are already shipping Obi and qui on both cards why not the new BD sculpt? I know everyone this it's ovepriced but at least it would have been a step more tolerable instead of the ancient one. I would have bought alot of them if it was the new sculpt as I am upgrading my army.

They really should have had Wave 2 start this line, once I know the case breakdown I will probally order one as I want every one from Wave 2. I have no EP1 JJ's or the Palace Amidala in my collection.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2012, 10:51 PM
Yeah, basically same dealie here...  went out tonight and Movie Heroes is stinking up the joint.

Someone should put up Slippery When Poopy signs around any Movie Heroes display because that's some crap.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Diddly on February 1, 2012, 03:31 AM
Same here. Movie Heroes... Movie Heroes Everywhere.

It's mind boggling too because these were figures that were considered mega-crappy back when they were originally released... I mean, did ANYBODY buy that Maul for any reason other than the cool metal double saber it came with? I think that Vader originally came with a cool Cloud City platform piece. Now you get a die and a card.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2012, 03:41 AM
I think it's funny (like funny strange, not funny haha) how disappointing basically everything is at the launch of the new line look/TPM push.

Other than Vintage, was anything really all that great?

-All the exclusives are repaints with price-hikes for the most part it seems.  The Vulture Droid and Dewback really sting too.  The droids aren't bad, but that's about it to me.

-Movie Heroes...  All old stuff, really bad selection they went with here, and Wave 2 is pretty slick actually but would've done far better as the launch wave, or at least a mix of old/new.

-Deluxe...  Same as above.  Tons of old, nothing new, yet clearly some really good stuff is coming in the next rounds and will now fight for peg space.

-Clone Wars...  A little better, but nothing spectacular.

-Mid-Size ships...  Same as MH and Deluxe...  a whole lot of old, and better choices available but skipped over (Clone Cannon and Jedi Speeders would've been better than the AT-AP or a V-19).

It just seems like a more backward way to launch things with all this old stuff, and leave the new and more appealing things to a 2nd wave.  At least try to mix them a little bit, ya know?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on February 1, 2012, 09:27 AM
It's mind boggling too because these were figures that were considered mega-crappy back when they were originally released... I mean, did ANYBODY buy that Maul for any reason other than the cool metal double saber it came with? I think that Vader originally came with a cool Cloud City platform piece. Now you get a die and a card.

Yeah, strangely though that Vader appears to be in  A NEW HOPE costume, not the ESB version.

I-Mid-Size ships...  Same as MH and Deluxe...  a whole lot of old, and better choices available but skipped over (Clone Cannon and Jedi Speeders would've been better than the AT-AP or a V-19).

I'm gonna Hasbro some credit there. Clone vehicles seem to do fairly well (attack shuttles and remote control tanks aside). The AT-AP and V-19 are good sellers, at least around these parts. Never saw much of the swamp speeder (though that may be due to being undershipped).

The ships that linger are usually Seperatists and Jedi Fighters (which often overship).

Of course, I can't give them credit for tooling up new items that never seem to arrive in stores, like that Mandalorian transport. Or for dusting off and reissuing ROTS Obi-Wan's starfighter...a vehicle that was shipped for some 3 years.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: McMetal on February 1, 2012, 09:35 AM
Yeah, may as well pile on here and state that I think this line and everything about it completely SUCKS. Pegs are jammed full of this junk and it is not selling at all. I don't see how any store is ever going to find peg space for Wave 2.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on February 1, 2012, 05:23 PM
Finally got a chance to go and check the stores today, and it really doesn't seem like anything has moved yet.  Plus, it seems like a bit of a non-event for a special release date.  WM has sold through the couple cases of TVC it put out a week and half ago (only one Obi and one Qui-Gon left), but everything else looks relatively untouched.  Also, no exclusives there yet (like everywhere else it seems).  TRU has half of their front display loaded up with SW stuff (the other half is still baby stuff at our store).  They also didn't have their exclusives out, had the vehicles for $32.99, the regular BPs for like $25-26, and the pegs were full for all three lines there (as if no one had really even checked it out yet, as the vintage figures were all there too).  Target had their exclusive two packs (who cares), but hadn't put the new figures out yet aside from some CW (I think they were in the process of loading up the Movie Heroes too).  Overall, a bit of a non-release so far.  Only a few days in, but I remember the days when people would be lined up to buy stuff for a "new release" day like this.  Then again, it is mostly old stuff repackaged - and not even great stuff at that.  It will be interesting to see how this stuff movies, maybe the movie release will help next week.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Morgbug on February 1, 2012, 10:24 PM
Saw this lineup today for the first time.  I think I own most of this stuff from years ago, don't I? 

And what the hell is that Maul looking thing that's yellowish?  ???
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 01:42 AM
I think you were looking at the Clone Wars villain-of-the-week, not a Movie Heroes figure...  Savage Oppress.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2012, 09:01 PM
Not that anyone here is overly interested in this line, but looking at the rumor report at RS (similar to the TVC one), it doesn't look like there is much on the way from this line for awhile either.  According to that list, the only "new" figures listed are:

Darth Vader
Boba Fett
Sandtrooper (seriously, what is the obsession with Sandtroopers over Stormtroopers?)
ROTS Anakin Skywalker
Luke Skywalker
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Morgbug on February 2, 2012, 09:31 PM
I think you were looking at the Clone Wars villain-of-the-week, not a Movie Heroes figure...  Savage Oppress.

Ah, thank you.  Cards were all mixed together, Maul was everywhere.  Then he turned pale yellow.  I was confused. 
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 09:56 PM
Yeah he's animated, and the cardbacks are a little more confusing now, really.  I noticed that this past week shopping as well.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on February 3, 2012, 08:37 AM
Not that anyone here is overly interested in this line, but looking at the rumor report at RS (similar to the TVC one), it doesn't look like there is much on the way from this line for awhile either.  According to that list, the only "new" figures listed are:

Darth Vader
Boba Fett
Sandtrooper (seriously, what is the obsession with Sandtroopers over Stormtroopers?)
ROTS Anakin Skywalker
Luke Skywalker

There's bad action feature versions of the other four, but which crappy sandtrooper will it be...POTJ? Toss in a CW action launcher!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 6, 2012, 01:47 PM
When I saw Darth Vader, ROTS Anakin and Luke Skywalker on that list, I kinda hoped it meant that they were working to give us light-up lightsaber versions of them too.

Makes sense if you think about it, it's this year's gimmick, why stop at just three?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on February 6, 2012, 02:31 PM
Maybe, there's no rush at Hasbro. Light-up sabers might be next year's gimmick, too. AOTC Anakin and Obi-Wan with light up sabers!

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2012, 02:36 PM
I know it is still very early (with the movie just out this Friday), but has anyone seen this line moving at retail at all?  The new Vintage Collection stuff has been selling well here it seems (but it still very new), and I think the odd CW figure or two has sold, but these seem largely untouched locally.  That could change after the movie is released I'm sure, but it is really going to be kids (and possibly carded completists) that are going to drive this line for the most part.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: iFett on February 8, 2012, 02:41 PM
It sits just like all the other repack lines from what I can see, but apparently it's selling...or will be selling in good enough numbers for these to continue.  I think the fact that they're a buck or two cheaper then vintage will keep em moving.  Will be interesting to see how all of the SW lines do once the movie hits........then fades away
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on February 11, 2012, 07:19 PM
Vader with light up sabre...thank goodness...it's so hard to find Darth Vader figures.

ROTS Anakin with light up sabre...or will he be called Vader, too?

Snowspeeder Luke with a new hat! backpack....retracting grapple rope! Can we expect a snowspeeder rerelease to go with him...probably not.

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on February 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Oh! and expect to see light-up blasters in the future, too!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2012, 02:10 PM
Seriously Steve?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on February 12, 2012, 02:17 PM
Seriously Steve?

Yeah, the mentioned that during the slide presentation. Now that I think about it, I should have asked how they plan to do it... if the light will show through the muzzle, or if they'll have blast effects attached to the muzzle that'll light up?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2012, 02:33 PM
I was just thinking about it, and I'd bet the latter...  Blaster in the hand kind of like the hilt of the saber, and a "flash" out of the barrel like they did back in 2002 with the preview Clone, except a light for it.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on February 12, 2012, 05:57 PM
How bulky will that look? They had to make ROTS Anakin a southpaw light up saber because of his thinner robot right hand.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on February 12, 2012, 08:48 PM
Although I'll admit I may pick up one or two of the light up saber figures for the heck of it, this line really looks like it can mostly be ignored this year.  Maybe a figure or there, but they really didn't show a whole lot that we hadn't already seen/known about - and I wonder how much more they will put out this year.  We'll see I guess, seems to be sitting around here so far.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2012, 02:04 AM
I'm officially waiting on the Vader one.  If I'm going to hav ea light-up figure, it'll be Vader and that'll be it till I see if the blaster idea works or not.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Ryan on February 13, 2012, 01:24 PM
I think you were looking at the Clone Wars villain-of-the-week, not a Movie Heroes figure...  Savage Oppress.

Ah, thank you.  Cards were all mixed together, Maul was everywhere.  Then he turned pale yellow.  I was confused. 

That brings up something that I found kind of interesting... I don't follow the CW stuff, pretty much at all. When I heard that they are going to do some of the CW figures in the Realistic Vintage style I didn't know if it meant that they were going to completely do away with the Animated CW line. Upon seeing the displays at Target I actually thought that they had just started to put some animated figures in with the Movie Heros line... There were probably at least twice as many pegs for Movie Heroes stuff as there were for CW or Vintage. And with the packaging being virtually identical from the front it took me a bit to realize that there were two lines mixed together. These two look even more similar that last year's Legends and CW cards. If a season SW collector has trouble immediately noticing the difference, an average retail employee doesn't stand a chance. I hope those of you that collect CW are ready to look for everything online...
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Rob on February 13, 2012, 01:44 PM
Is there a breakdown in this thread or elsewhere that anyone's seen detailing exactly what is a re-paint / resculpt / kit-bash vs. what's just a straight up re-release for this line?

Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jeff on February 13, 2012, 01:59 PM
Rob, here's a good break-down of Wave 1 (http://rebelscum.com/story/front/Spotlight_On_New_Toys_Movie_Heroes_Basic_Figures_143476.asp).  Pretty much only R2 (new sounds) and Maul (repaint) are the only ones that are not 100% repack.  The Battle Droid comes in two flavors (tan and red), but both are really close to past droid decos form previous Legends BD 2-packs they have put out.

In Wave 2, there are 6 new figures - light-up saber versions of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, new gimmicky armed Maul, and a new Battle Padme, Pod Race Anakin and JarJar.

In Wave 3, there are 2 new figures - light-up saber versions of OT Darth Vader and Ep3 Anakin.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Rob on February 13, 2012, 02:25 PM
Thanks Jeff, you're my movie hero.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on February 13, 2012, 03:34 PM
Thanks Jeff, you're my movie hero.

And that Bette Midler song came into my head. Blech!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: McMetal on February 13, 2012, 10:29 PM
I hope those of you that collect CW are ready to look for everything online...

Yes, we have been for awhile now. Like the Mandalorian Assault Transport, the Scout Bomber Deluxe set, and the MIA DVD 2-packs. Hasbro has made collecting this line an utter nightmare.

Well, at least the kids can find all those multiple versions of Qui Gon, Anakin, and Maul loitering on the pegs.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 13, 2012, 11:22 PM
I'm not going to lie, I think the light-up figures are a really stupid and pointless idea, but I can honestly say that I'll pick up that light-up Vader when it comes out. I remember owning the POTF light-up Vader vs. Obi-Wan figures, so when I saw this one it brought back some nostalgia. I'll happily buy a light-up ANH Ben if that ever comes out, just to complete the scene.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 16, 2012, 03:42 PM
Has anyone found the second wave of Movie Heroes in any great quantities yet?

My stores are all still loaded with Wave 1 that I'm wondering if we'll ever see the second wave... maybe it's still too early?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: MasterFisto on March 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Has anyone found the second wave of Movie Heroes in any great quantities yet?

Great quantities?  No.  Light quantities?  Yes.  I have seen the wave twice (last month), and each time only a part of it.  But I got what I wanted from it: Padmé and Anakin.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on March 19, 2012, 08:59 PM
I haven't seen any of Wave 2 here, and I don't think we will for awhile either.  The pegs seem to be pretty full of the Movie Heroes stuff right now, with no signs of changing.  I really think it is going to take a nice sale (or clearance) to get some of this stuff moving.  It really makes me wonder if they'll change their strategy for AOTC next year (if it does get released, still no confirmation on that I guess).
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Ben on March 22, 2012, 11:37 PM
Found the second wave at WM. They looked awful. Didn't feel bad not dropping $50 on them.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Phrubruh on March 23, 2012, 09:11 AM
It really makes me wonder if they'll change their strategy for AOTC next year (if it does get released, still no confirmation on that I guess).

Hopefully AOTC will be in 3D this time. TPM didn't look anything like 3D for the most part.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Darby on March 24, 2012, 02:38 PM
I actually really like the light up figures.  The likenesses for Obi and Qui Gon are the best they've done, and easy swaps.  The rest are tragic though.  Jar Jar is ok, but the vintage seems better.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on March 24, 2012, 07:33 PM
I'm thinking of getting the light-up Vader...  I can't justify buying a figure for its head to do a swap, but I can see Vader looking pretty awesome on a desk. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 25, 2012, 09:54 AM
I finally found the second wave minus the light-up Obi-Wan. Grabbed them all to keep MOC, so I still need to find an Obi-Wan and then the entire wave all over again.

For the most part these figures do stink. I'm not really even keen on the Qui-Gon head sculpt.

There's just a huge part of me that feels that if they really wanted to get figures like Palace Assault Padme, Tatooine Anakin and Jar Jar out, they should have been given much better treatment and appear as part of a two wave focus on TPM in Vintage.

There's no reason why there couldn't have been a second TPM Vintage wave that featured:

Jar Jar
Tatooine Anakin
Final Battle Padme
Captain Panaka
Destroyer Droid (new sculpt that mostly folds into a ball)
Nute Gunray

And then just include six carry-over figures from the first wave along with those.

Would have made a lot more sense than having the Blu Ray Jedi figures - those should have been part of the Death Star II set from last summer.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on April 7, 2012, 11:11 AM
I found this wave finally at my local Walmart. Echoing what others have said, despite the limited articulation, these figures do look quite good. The head sculpt for all 6 figures are probably the best to date and I might add some spare robes to the Jedi to cover their bulkiness, but they too are great figures in their own right.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on April 8, 2012, 01:04 AM
I'm still holding out on a light up figure till Vader.  Love how that looks for some reason.

Beyond it, I think they're neat...  should've been what kicked off this line, not what they ultimately did, but probably wasn't in the cards timeline wise.  That's fine, but it's too little too late at the moment, unfortunately.  MH, along with the rest of modern SW, is seemingly dead in the water.  Anything new moves for a little while, but I'm really fearful they banked entirely too much on TPM3D.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: P-Siddy on April 8, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jay, do you think there's any way to replace the batteries on the Jedi figures? Hasbro mentioned at NYCC that once the batteries were done, you couldn't remove them. I find that hard to believe they can mold the figure around the batteries and wiring... plus I just think of possible corrosion eating the plastic after years of unuse.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on April 8, 2012, 09:04 AM
They are fused in the body. I don't see how they could be accessible without destroying the figure. Maybe I'll pick up another for dissection purposes.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 9, 2012, 01:44 AM
Neat idea Jayson, that'd be interesting to see.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2012, 02:07 AM
One of the things I always liked, and found sort of interesting too, regarding customizing, was popping apart figures and seeing all the engineering that went into their design.  They're amazingly simple anymore compared to a while ago, actually.  In other ways they're more complex, but in many surprising ways they're much less complex than they were in say 1999/2000.

A lot of the simplification I attribute to cost cutting, not in only how they were constructed, but also the materials they were using.  They definitely changed over the years.

Some of the designs of figures were fairly ingenious though...  VOTC Chewbacca still rings as one of the more creatively designed figures ever IMO.  Other figures were so high quality though, and not even recent ones.  VTSC IG-88 comes to mind immediately, to me, as one of the most complex design and sculpted figures I think the line has ever seen, and it works pretty flawlessly.  That figure's only real drawback is his blaster doesn't fit in the holster made for it.  THat's probably more a flaw that came out during the manufacturing process though.

You also could see, popping almost every figure apart once (or more) over time, certain designer "trademarks" in a figure.  You could tell the same guy had worked on this figure or that figure (most likely) by little things they did differently in its creation.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on April 9, 2012, 02:23 PM
I'm still holding out on a light up figure till Vader.  Love how that looks for some reason.

Beyond it, I think they're neat...  should've been what kicked off this line, not what they ultimately did, but probably wasn't in the cards timeline wise.  That's fine, but it's too little too late at the moment, unfortunately.  MH, along with the rest of modern SW, is seemingly dead in the water.  Anything new moves for a little while, but I'm really fearful they banked entirely too much on TPM3D.

Yeah, the line is in a strange place now.  Although it was a little more conservative approach, it is funny that they didn't learn more from the problems TPM posed in 1999.  Although, to be fair, I think they did sell a lot of figures initially with all the hype, but the poor reviews, couple with overshipping, coupled with the problems fast food chains had with their promos all played a part in the overall view of "failure" with TPM.  It seems like we're seeing it again.

Not counting stuff leaking out early (which it did), using the Jan 30 set date, we're going on 2 and 1/2 months out almost now - and at least here locally, things look mostly similar on the pegs as they did when things were set.  The Vintage stuff still sells (but much more slowly now - the TPM wave anyways), and Movie Heroes/CW are largely untouched.  A few here and there maybe, but that's about it.

I haven't bought any "movie heroes" yet, but might spring for the light up saber figures (definitely Vader) when they hit here.  Might be kind of fun.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scott on April 12, 2012, 11:05 PM
I rarely go hunting anymore but last night I went to Wally and Target in town and the Wally pegs are STUFFED with Movie Heroes Wave 1.  Like there is no way they are getting anything else for a really long time.   

The case assortment rant and figure choice rant applies here.  This line is pegwarmer city :-\
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Scockery on April 14, 2012, 06:09 PM
Those stinkers for years ago. Should've launched with more new figures.

I was looking  at Cloud City escape Chewbacca wit C-3PO parts today, and thought "if they made a Movie Heroes C-3PO wth light-up eyes, that might be cool, actually".

Even better if he talked. Hell, a talking Vader might be appeallng, as long it wasn't bulky.

Which is strange, because I've never ONCE considered getting that sound making R2-D2.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 14, 2012, 07:02 PM
the new R2 is pretty cool cuz it does do a crazy amount of noises.  That said, I don't think I am interested in buying yet another R2
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: CHEWIE on April 16, 2012, 02:05 PM
A light up eyes C-3PO, using the B.A.D. mold mostly, would be awesome.  You could press down on the head and it could light up, like the Iron Man 2 figure.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2012, 07:48 PM
I think I'd be down for a light-up 3PO as well, however I don't think Hasbro can just base it on an existing sculpt necessarilly.  THere'd be a lot of retooling inside the torso, and one would assume the head as well, for that to work.  I think it'd be cool though if it happened.

Likewise I'd be alright seeing other figures get a shot at this...  Vader's chest box lighting up would be a good choice.  I just hope they don't make the figure itself a statue in the process.  I think the light-up sabers are a neat novelty, but if the 3PO idea were a fully articulated figure with an accurate paintjob, I'd be so much more into it, and it'd be so much more than a novelty to me.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jayson on April 16, 2012, 08:19 PM
They seemed to have come close with the C-3PO that came with Chewy in the Saga line. It doesn't look like it would take much to mod that into a working (articulated) figure.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Sybeck1 on April 16, 2012, 08:49 PM
Isn't a 2-1B that lights up in the works?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2012, 11:05 PM
They seemed to have come close with the C-3PO that came with Chewy in the Saga line. It doesn't look like it would take much to mod that into a working (articulated) figure.

3PO works mostly as a light pipe on that figure, but his back does light up as well...  It is a little bulkier since it's a junk pile so that might be hiding some of the electronics, but regardless I'm sure it could be done in some capacity.  It just might be a little too costly maybe, or might not be quite "perfect" looking. 

I've been brainstorming it all night, actually.  I can visualize a few different ways to do it, some being a little more costly than others because of their intricacies, but I could totally see it in my head.  3PO's problem is he's really quite small, if done to-scale in the figure line.  He's not a big character at all.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 17, 2012, 09:43 AM
Isn't a 2-1B that lights up in the works?

Haven't heard, but that'd be cool.

I know I'm getting old and all, but wanted to double check - the Tan Battledroid, it's a new paint scheme, right?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Brian on April 17, 2012, 12:00 PM
I saw the second wave of these at WM yesterday (minus the Padme), and ended up picking up the Obi and Qui-Gon light up figures, the Jar Jar, and the Anakin (although I may return him).  It may have been the fact that there hasn't been anything new for awhile, but I decided to pick up this foursome.  The Jar Jar (while somewhat cross eyed as some have said), isn't too bad, and the light up figures are neat for what they are (and do have nice head sculpts, as some have mentioned).  I haven't decided on the Anakin yet.  He's fine I guess, but the sculpt and articulation don't seem all that different from the TPM versions and I'm not sure - for $9 - I really need him.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Nicklab on April 17, 2012, 12:11 PM
the new R2 is pretty cool cuz it does do a crazy amount of noises.  That said, I don't think I am interested in buying yet another R2

Yeah, but the fact that Hasbro hasn't been able to properly do the lights on R2's dome has been a dealbreaker for me with any electronic R2-D2.  With LED's being so cheap and easy to use, you would think that Hasbro could figure this out.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: CHEWIE on April 17, 2012, 02:14 PM
They seemed to have come close with the C-3PO that came with Chewy in the Saga line. It doesn't look like it would take much to mod that into a working (articulated) figure.

I agree... I'd think they could pop open the B.A.D. torso and stuff it with the battery/etc. then it would work just fine... it's worked on a very articulated Iron Man figure too, and it's not bulky.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on April 17, 2012, 03:23 PM
Iron Man's not bulky, but it's gotta be bigger than a 3PO torso right?  I mean, 3PO is one of the more slight characters of the entire saga. :)

Crack open a light-up R2 if you have one, check out the electronics.  Better actualy to probably crack open the 3PO accessory Chewbacca had some years ago.  That gives you an idea on the size of the electronics involved anyway.

I think the light pipe head ala that 3PO accessory is a good way to get the eyes to light up...  the head basically being one big light pipe, and it's painted everywhere but its eyes.

I've not cracked a BAD protocol droid torso open to do a comparison of electronics and see if it would work. 

Bearing in mind too, that torso would probably need reworked entirely, to accomodate anything it could perhaps fit into it.  This would likely be an entirely new figure short of maybe re-using BAD limbs.  I'd be ok with that, and it's maybe doable.  That's just a really tight fit I think.  I don't have one of those 3PO's available to pop apart or I'd give it a whirl with some extra BAD parts, just to see if it's even feasible.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Diddly on April 25, 2012, 09:33 PM
Spotted a light-up Obi-Wan today but passed until I can find a Qui-Gon to buy with it... I kinda want the light up figures, not just for the novelty but because there's literally nothing else on the shelves to buy
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 26, 2012, 11:26 AM
I kinda want the light up figures, not just for the novelty but because there's literally nothing else on the shelves to buy

I'd save the money and go to Europe. That's what I did.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: McMetal on April 26, 2012, 11:48 AM
I'd save the money and go to Europe.

Seriously, those photos from the pegs in Spain on JTA's front page are enough to make you vomit with rage. That is what every Walmart, Target, and TRU should look like over here.

And Spain's economy make ours look freaking robust. Where's the logic?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
I should post the picture of me in Cardiff holding three Wedges in thier TRU.

Hate to ask again, but can someone confirm that the Tan battle droid in this line is a new paint job?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Greg on April 27, 2012, 11:55 AM
Hate to ask again, but can someone confirm that the Tan battle droid in this line is a new paint job?

It has a new paint job. The new battle droid is similar in appearance to the 2007 SL version, but it is a different shade of tan and the number on the backpack is reversed. (8311 instead of 1138, or something like that)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 27, 2012, 10:27 PM
Thanks Greg!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Jesse James on May 23, 2012, 11:46 PM
Our friends at Hobbystock.cn have all 3 MH Light-Up figures in stock on their Ebay store as of right now.  That's a pretty slick way to get them all if you're wanting them.

Hobbystock.cn Ebay Store (http://www.jedidefender.com/phpads/adclick.php?bannerid=133&zoneid=0&source=&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.ebay.com%2FHobbystockcn-Toy-Store)

Vader's all I'm after but I know others were wanting Obi and QGJ too, who have been rough to find in my area at least.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Rob on June 21, 2012, 10:40 PM
I just bit the bullet and ordered those three.

I still haven't seen a single figure past wave 1 in stores. 
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2012, 11:47 AM
Can someone give me an idea of what's come and gone at retail concerning wave 2 of these?  Did I already miss it or is it still too soon.  Seems to me like it should have been around months ago but I never saw a single thing past wave 1.

Do I need to start looking for these elsewhere?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 20, 2012, 12:45 PM
Can someone give me an idea of what's come and gone at retail concerning wave 2 of these?  Did I already miss it or is it still too soon.  Seems to me like it should have been around months ago but I never saw a single thing past wave 1.

Do I need to start looking for these elsewhere?

I still see some of these around.

The "new" Darth Maul, Light-up Obi-Wan and Light-up Qui-Gon are all present in the Wave 3 case with the Light-up Vader and updated Hoth Pilot Luke figures - and that wave is still hitting. I picked up Luke and Vader just the other night at my Target.

The remaining three figures - Jar Jar, Padme and Anakin are still hanging around in a couple of WalMarts around me - mostly Padme and Jar Jar, but Anakin can be found if you look hard enough.

If you're going for one-of-each figure, then you need the Jar Jar, but if you're just looking for an updated version of the character, wait for the new Vintage/Lost-line-look release of him, it's a much better version with lots more articulation and no ridiculously big gun that he can't hold.

I hope that helps.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Line
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2012, 01:39 PM
I'm going one of each unique sculpt / paint job. So there are a handful I'm looking for... Jar Jar, Anakin, Padme...

I managed to get the light-up saber figures off eBay last week.  But I literally haven't seen any of the "new" movie heroes figures. 
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Nicklab on August 31, 2012, 02:48 PM
Can't believe that I've actually been happy to find the electronic lightsaber Qui-Gon and MH Jar Jar over the past week.  Things are really lean when you get excited about finds like this.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: JediJman on October 9, 2012, 08:03 AM
I found just about all of the new wave 2 and 3 figures on Amazon last week.  Worth a look if anyone still needs these.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Scockery on October 14, 2012, 03:00 PM
Jedi Temple Archives reports  (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10683) figures are showing up in Singapore...Boba Fett with climbing backpack, exploding tan Battle Droid, light-up saber ROTS Anakin and light up blaster Sandtrooper.

That last one was a surprise, I thought he'd debut in 2013.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Diddly on October 14, 2012, 07:03 PM
I hope these stay in Singapore
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: SnTrooper on October 14, 2012, 07:22 PM
Surprising but not entirely. It had been planned for release this year based on those leaked case assortments back in February.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Nicklab on November 21, 2012, 10:35 PM
Found the electronic lightsaber version of Darth Vader tonight.  It's okay.  Even thought the lightsaber arm is static, the sculpt is far better than the Power FX Darth Vader from the POTF2 days.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Diddly on November 22, 2012, 04:20 AM
I saw the Vader and Pilot Luke yesterday too... wound up passing on them both.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Nicklab on November 22, 2012, 09:20 PM
Now does Pilot Luke include the electronic lightsaber, too?  IIRC, the MH version of Hoth Pilot Luke has that winch backpack.  And I believe I had seen word of an electronic lightsaber version of Luke, too.  But they can't have combined the two features into one figure, right?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Greg on November 22, 2012, 10:39 PM
Now does Pilot Luke include the electronic lightsaber, too?  IIRC, the MH version of Hoth Pilot Luke has that winch backpack.  And I believe I had seen word of an electronic lightsaber version of Luke, too.  But they can't have combined the two features into one figure, right?

I got Pilot Luke yesterday (before the mob attacks, I wanted another pilot Luke figure and figured I might as well for for a different one) and there is no light-up saber. I too remember hearing that it would be light-up, but I guess it didn't pan out on Hasbro's end or it was just mixed-up reports from other parties. Hopefully we'll get a light-up farmboy Luke sometime soon... I'm not sure how well Luke's other outfits would work with their skinny appearance.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Nicklab on November 22, 2012, 10:58 PM
Now does Pilot Luke include the electronic lightsaber, too?  IIRC, the MH version of Hoth Pilot Luke has that winch backpack.  And I believe I had seen word of an electronic lightsaber version of Luke, too.  But they can't have combined the two features into one figure, right?

I got Pilot Luke yesterday (before the mob attacks, I wanted another pilot Luke figure and figured I might as well for for a different one) and there is no light-up saber. I too remember hearing that it would be light-up, but I guess it didn't pan out on Hasbro's end or it was just mixed-up reports from other parties. Hopefully we'll get a light-up farmboy Luke sometime soon... I'm not sure how well Luke's other outfits would work with their skinny appearance.

Yeah, it seemed like it would be odd if that figure would have both the grappling line feature AND the electronic lightsaber. 

I'm thinking that the electronic lightsaber Luke is probably going to be a ROTJ Luke.  Farmboy Luke has the lightsaber, but never really used it in any kind of a fight on-screen. 

The thing is there are actually some semi-interesting things in the Movie Heroes line like these figures.  But I think that most of the collecting websites have pretty much ignored the MH line since Hasbro basically told us that the line was simply a vehicle for getting those kid interest figures out to market.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures Line
Post by: Rob on November 26, 2012, 12:50 PM
The Walmart I stopped at on Friday had 8 packs of Movie Heroes figures for $25 - they were stuffed with wave 2 if anyone is still missing it, this would probably be a really good way to get caught up.

I bought a pack, took the Anakin and Maul, and the other 6 will go to Toys For Tots... not bad considering I was going to pay $9 or so each for those two anyway.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 9, 2013, 04:50 PM
I ordered a case of the Tri-Lingual Wave "3" (what would have been our Wave 4) from Toy Palace in Germany this morning. The Case is gonna cost me almost $200 shipped, but at least I'll get the final Movie Heroes 2012 game cards, the Tan Exploding Battledroid and the Movie Heroes Boba Fett.

Not sure what I'll do with the re-release figures. Gonna be conflicted about the light-up Anakin - would love to have a loose one to display with the stand and game card, but I'll probably hold off on opening up one just to have a card.

Wish there were 2x of Boba Fett and/or the Battle Droid in the case instead of Darth Vader, but oh well...

If there is any hope here, maybe I'll have jinxed us all in a good way and there are still cases of Movie Heroes Wave 4 on Maul Cardbacks headed to places like Five Below, Marshalls or TJMaxx....
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jeff on February 9, 2013, 06:09 PM
Looks like you made the right call, Pete...  and will be spending some more money at Toy Palace to get the 2013 Yoda cards too. :(

From GH's Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/galactichunterdotcom):
"Movie Heroes (2012 and 2013) Sandtrooper, Boba Fett, Anakin, Battle Droid will be European release only"
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jimree on February 9, 2013, 07:03 PM
man,
I wanted the light up Anakin and Sandtrooper
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Scockery on February 9, 2013, 07:44 PM
So there really will be no new carded Star Wars figures in the USA at all until mid-late summer?

COMA OF TEH LINE!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2013, 07:52 PM
$$$ in the bank baby!  Breaks can help.  Can hurt too, but at this point I think if you're still here you're in the minority anyway and everyone who was leaving has left.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 9, 2013, 08:33 PM
Looks like you made the right call, Pete...  and will be spending some more money at Toy Palace to get the 2013 Yoda cards too. :(

From GH's Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/galactichunterdotcom):
"Movie Heroes (2012 and 2013) Sandtrooper, Boba Fett, Anakin, Battle Droid will be European release only"

Wow, that really stinks, so essentially I'll have to get the Yoda wave for just 2 figures - Red Exploding Battledroid and Jango Fett. Maybe I'll get lucky and there will be a spare Sandtrooper and Anakin in that case.

Not sure what I'm gonna do about the Clone Wars Wave 1 case too...
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Captain Piet on February 9, 2013, 08:42 PM
Looks like you made the right call, Pete...  and will be spending some more money at Toy Palace to get the 2013 Yoda cards too. :(

From GH's Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/galactichunterdotcom):
"Movie Heroes (2012 and 2013) Sandtrooper, Boba Fett, Anakin, Battle Droid will be European release only"

Wow, that really stinks, so essentially I'll have to get the Yoda wave for just 2 figures - Red Exploding Battledroid and Jango Fett. Maybe I'll get lucky and there will be a spare Sandtrooper and Anakin in that case.

Not sure what I'm gonna do about the Clone Wars Wave 1 case too...

Me neither.
What a bunch of horse pucky.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Scockery on February 9, 2013, 09:40 PM
It's more confusing. Jedi Temple Archives was told the waves are coming to the US and should be in stores soon.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Greg on February 9, 2013, 09:48 PM
It's more confusing. Jedi Temple Archives was told the waves are coming to the US and should be in stores soon.

Oh great, conflicting reports! It would make sense for Movie Heroes and Clone Wars to trickle in during the spring and early summer...  Time will tell I guess.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 9, 2013, 10:32 PM
It's more confusing. Jedi Temple Archives was told the waves are coming to the US and should be in stores soon.

Well this makes A LOT more sense.

I can't imagine them not shipping anything new between now and August.

The Class I Yoda-packaging vehicles have shipped.

The Class II Yoda-packaging vehicles have shipped.

Why wouldn't the Movie Heroes and Clone Wars figures ship as well? This is good news. While I know the ship has sailed on the last wave of Maul-packaging MH figures, I find it very hard to believe they wouldn't just ship a single wave for a couple of months just to have product in the stores until the Vader-packaging stuff kicks in this summer.

Whew!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jimree on February 10, 2013, 05:32 AM
I really do hope these figs get released, but we will see

conflicting reports from Hasbro are probably their way of having fun at work. lol, if it is, that's hilarious

Jim
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: McMetal on February 10, 2013, 08:16 AM
Why wouldn't the Movie Heroes and Clone Wars figures ship as well? This is good news. While I know the ship has sailed on the last wave of Maul-packaging MH figures, I find it very hard to believe they wouldn't just ship a single wave for a couple of months just to have product in the stores until the Vader-packaging stuff kicks in this summer.

I hope so too man, but the thing is though, I feel like if that was going to happen, we would already be seeing the Maul-packaged figures getting clearanced, like how the TVC line is at Target right now. The fact that no stores seem to have any particular desire to A) move the old stock, or B) order any new stock, seems to point to a protracted stalement on the pegs for the next few months. Add that to the fact that none of the Targets that have recently reset have stocked new CW figures, and I think it's sort of a bleak outlook.

Then again, I'm not sure the Yoda packaged stuff ever got as far as having a DPCI assigned, so who knows. Maybe they would just throw the new stuff up with the old.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Greg on February 10, 2013, 11:10 AM
\\ Maybe they would just throw the new stuff up with the old.

I was thinking that is how Target would handle the new stuff. They did something similar last year by rolling the Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and Avengers lines all together under the same DPCI. But then again another reset in March or April for green packaged and TVC figures might be possible, since Target seems to love resetting their aisles on a monthly basis nowadays.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 11, 2013, 10:03 PM
Got my shipping notice from Toy Palace. I'll let everyone know how long it takes and what kind of condition the stuff arrives in.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jeff on February 28, 2013, 10:28 AM
The good news is that more 2012 Movie Heroes figures are shipping this Spring...  the bad news is that this Spring will see more of Waves 2/3 and NOT the Wave 4 figures that people are trying to find.

EE has posted these two new cases for Spring 2013:

2012 Movie Heroes Wave 3, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS36563C1&id=HA-807301583) - March 2013
2x Darth Maul, 3x Clone Shock Trooper, 2x R2-D2, 2x Battle Droid, 1x Darth Vader, 1x General Grievous, 1x Clone Trooper

2012 Movie Heroes Wave 3, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS36563C2&id=HA-807301583) - March 2013
3x Clone Shock Trooper, 3x Darth Vader, 3x General Grievous, 3x Clone Trooper


Like I said over in the similar Clone Wars thread - they can get us NEW case assortments of the 2012 carded stuff but can't find a way to get us the 2013 stuff?  Epic. Fail.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 28, 2013, 11:19 AM
This is BEYOND ridiculous.

Someone at Hasbro needs to be FIRED over how bad this line is being handled.

Personally, even though I still have my Wave "4" 2012 MH figures on their way from Toy Palace (the shipment seems to be "lost" at the moment unfortunately) - if EE was selling the Wave 4 figures, I'd be ecstatic since it would mean I'd have ample opportunity to buy multiple exploding tan Battledroids.

What I really don't understand is if they can get this to EE, why can't they get the 2013 stuff in Tri-lingual packaging to EE?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Greg on February 28, 2013, 11:20 AM
Okay... these have to be either joke assortments, or just clearing out old/leftover stock. There is no way Hasbro can seriously be producing cases with 3x of figures that have been on shelves for over a year, right?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Scockery on February 28, 2013, 12:46 PM
What a relief. I was worried I wouldn't make my quick draw and jet pack clone quota.

That much leftover Movie Zeroes? Just tape 'em back to back and charge $6 for two of 'em. Reminds me that I remember passing up good value packs.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2013, 03:06 PM
Okay... these have to be either joke assortments, or just clearing out old/leftover stock. There is no way Hasbro can seriously be producing cases with 3x of figures that have been on shelves for over a year, right?

I think it's almost certainly overstock.  You figure last year probably saw pretty high quantities, but with sales pretty stagnant.  At least that's my thought anyway.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: JediJman on March 1, 2013, 09:30 AM
I ordered three cases from Toy Palace the other day and just got an update from them:

 - Clone Wars 2013 Wave 1 Case - In Stock & Ready to Ship
 - Movie Heroes 2013 Wave 1 Case - In Stock & Ready to Ship
 - Movie Heroes 2012 Wave 3 Case - Expected Arrival on 3/15

Weird that the 2012 case is the one holding up my shipment, but at least it appears to be on the way in a few weeks.  Pretty happy with TP overall, though they deduct their money from your Paypal account immediately instead of waiting until things ship.   :P
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 5, 2013, 06:58 PM
Got my Movie Heroes 2012 Wave 3 (what would have been our Wave 4) from Toy Palace today.

Very relieved to have finally gotten it.

They shipped the case surrounded in bubble wrap in a larger box, so the figures and the case arrived in MINT condition which is fantastic.

So - I have all of the 24 Movie Heroes from 2012 in my mint-on-card collection now. I'd have loved to grab at least a couple of the Light-up Sandtrooper and "exploding" tan Battledroid figures - I wouldn't have gone crazy army building them - but at least two open would have been nice to have.

This case is just yet another example of Hasbro just being totally out of touch with what will get a collector to buy any one figure over another figure. Surely the light-up Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon figures couldn't cost any more money to make than the light-up Sandtrooper, so why, in what would have been your FINAL 2012 Movie Heroes case would you include them yet again, but not double-up on the other three "new" figures in the case?!?!?

Seems like you're a lot less likely to end up with light-up Sandtroopers hanging on the pegs than you are with the light-up EP1 figures. Same thing goes with including the Darth Maul (MH15) and Yoda (MH09) figures in this case - why not drop them and double-up on the Boba Fett and Exploding Battle-droid figures?

Keep making stupid decisions Hasbro and blame everyone but yourselves....  ::)
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: JediJman on March 19, 2013, 12:41 PM
I ordered three cases from Toy Palace the other day and just got an update from them:

 - Clone Wars 2013 Wave 1 Case - In Stock & Ready to Ship
 - Movie Heroes 2013 Wave 1 Case - In Stock & Ready to Ship
 - Movie Heroes 2012 Wave 3 Case - Expected Arrival on 3/15

Weird that the 2012 case is the one holding up my shipment, but at least it appears to be on the way in a few weeks.  Pretty happy with TP overall, though they deduct their money from your Paypal account immediately instead of waiting until things ship.   :P

Heard back from Toy Palace today that they are not getting their planned shipment of MH 2012 Wave 3 from Hasbro.  So no tan Battledroid or Boba Fett for me.   :-\  I'm a little sour about it, given that I've had other options like Ebay to get these figures over the last few weeks, but now there doesn't seem to be anything left after waiting three weeks.  Also pretty crummy that they held my money and the other two cases for 3 weeks when I could have paid less and had the cases by now.   ARGH!  Thanks for screwing me twice on the same case Hasbro.

Anyone know anywhere else these might be available via the case or single figures?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 12, 2013, 08:24 PM
The last US wave seems to be hitting Ross now at $4.99 a pop.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Scockery on October 12, 2013, 06:28 PM
Now at Five Below, wave 2? The wave with new TPM characters, light up saber Obi-Won and Qui-Gon.

Much rather have seen the vintage wave...any vintage wave.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: McMetal on November 9, 2013, 09:13 PM
I saw a ton of these in the old wheelbarrow up front at 5 Below today. Looked like a whole lot of Wave 2.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jesse James on November 12, 2013, 09:06 PM
Unfortunately Movie Heroes are what's pictured in their Christmas Toy Book...  :(

I'm hoping for TVC goodness to trickle in, which is possible.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: McMetal on November 13, 2013, 09:56 PM
I did see some new Clone Wars figures out today, not in the wheelbarrow, but on the regular pegs. So maybe there is still hope for more TVC too.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Jesse James on November 14, 2013, 02:10 AM
I would imagine because, ultimately, it wasn't till after the Shae Vizla wave that things broke up much at retail...  I'd say that wave's still lingering in warehouse limbo, and could end up at 5 Below next year maybe.  I think more Wave 3 could wind up out this year though.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Rob on December 5, 2013, 02:40 PM
Alright... can someone help me wrap my head around what's coming out still and what's not?

I've got Movie Heroes figures on my checklist but never saw them and have no idea if I should be spending too much money on them right now or not - like Boba Fett with zipline backpack... available for $45 on eBay, never saw him.  Is he coming out still or did I miss the boat?

The 6 I don't have are:

Zipline Backpack Boba Fett
Light up Darth Vader
Blast Apart Battle Droid (regular)
Blast Apart Battle Droid (red)
Light up Anakin Skywalker
Sandtrooper with giant vacuum gun thingy

Do I need to start shopping?  Anyone have extras of any of those?
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Greg on December 5, 2013, 03:22 PM
Alright... can someone help me wrap my head around what's coming out still and what's not?

I've got Movie Heroes figures on my checklist but never saw them and have no idea if I should be spending too much money on them right now or not - like Boba Fett with zipline backpack... available for $45 on eBay, never saw him.  Is he coming out still or did I miss the boat?

The 6 I don't have are:

Zipline Backpack Boba Fett
Light up Darth Vader
Blast Apart Battle Droid (regular)
Blast Apart Battle Droid (red)
Light up Anakin Skywalker
Sandtrooper with giant vacuum gun thingy

Do I need to start shopping?  Anyone have extras of any of those?

Here's a quick breakdown:

The last wave of 2012 (Red Package) Movie Heroes consisted of the following new figures:

Blast Apart Battle Droid (Tan)
Light-Up Anakin Skywalker
Boba Fett (new backpack)
Light-Up Sandtrooper

The only wave of 2013 (Green Cardback) Movie Heroes had the following new/noteworthy figures:

Blast Apart Battle Droid (Red)
Light-Up Anakin (repack)
Light-Up Sandtrooper (repack)
Light-Up Darth Vader (repack)

The 2013 Darth Vader was initially issued in 2012 Wave 3, which should be easier to get. Some figures in the 2013 wave (Jango and Obi-Wan for sure) are repacked figures with new gimmick accessories (zipline/missile stuff). Not sure if that qualifies them as "new" though.

The crappy part about both of these Movie Hero waves is that they were only released outside of the US. The final 2012 wave was only released in Europe and Asia so prices are rather high. The 2013 wave saw release in Canada as well as Europe and Asia, so prices on those should be more reasonable.

As for what you should be paying? I paid around $30ish for some of the 2012 figures, and maybe $12-$14 for various 2013 figures. I have no idea if that's still the going rate but they were prices I was comfortable with. The potential downside is that you never know (until it happens) if these will hit discount stores stateside for $4-$5 apiece in a year or two. They definitely won't be showing up at normal retail though and never did here in the States, so you didn't miss out.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Rob on December 5, 2013, 03:28 PM
Okay, that's very helpful.  Thanks.  I can snag a few of them for $10 to $12 shipped... looks like I might as well start doing that and see what happens.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: JediJman on December 5, 2013, 03:34 PM
I sold off all my 2012 Red Card extras, but if you need the Green Carded 2013 figs, let me know.

Movie Heroes 2013 Green Yoda Cards
- 1X Darth Vader MH01 $14
- 2X Light Up Anakin Skywalker MH02 $18 each
- 2X Obi-Wan Kenobi MH03 $10 each
- 1X R2-D2 MH05 $12
- 1X Darth Maul MH07 $12
- 1X Yoda MH08 $12
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Rob on December 5, 2013, 05:02 PM
I do need an Anakin and Vader, but I can snag them loose on eBay for about $10 to $12, so I'm not looking to spend more and don't want to insult you with a lowball offer.  Thanks though!
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: JediJman on December 5, 2013, 08:40 PM
I do need an Anakin and Vader, but I can snag them loose on eBay for about $10 to $12, so I'm not looking to spend more and don't want to insult you with a lowball offer.  Thanks though!

No worries.  I bought a case of them from Europe and just selling them for the prices I initially broke out to get my money back for the case.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on December 6, 2013, 07:23 AM
Red cards...  Green cards...  It's like 1996 all over again.
Title: Re: 2012 Movie Heroes Basic Figures (Maul cardback)
Post by: Rob on December 6, 2013, 10:54 AM
Cards?

Don't miss those one bit.  Best thing I did was sell the carded collection.