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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Legacy Collection => Topic started by: Brian on September 11, 2008, 03:32 PM
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It looks like RS has a report up showing that some previous Battle Packs (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Legacy_Collection_Adds_Some_Familiar_Battle_Packs_117669.asp) are making a return in the Legacy Collection (not that they need to):
Clone Attack on Coruscant
Jedi vs Darth Sidious
Jedi Training on Dagobah
I guess these are good sets for kiddos or new collectors, but they've all been out fairly recently so I'm not sure if it is necessary or not. I won't be picking any of them up personally, but I always kind of thought the Dagobah set was kind of neat. I would have liked it as a kid (or if I didn't have the figures included). A nice Obi-Wan and Yoda, a decent Luke, a Vader, and an R2 repaint. Now if they'd just put out a Dagobah playset to go along with it :P.
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I think it's a good move on Hasbro's part... 5 figures still for $20... great gift for a kiddo just getting into Star Wars.
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As long as these sets sell, I have no problem with them. But I know that the Jedi VS Darth Sidious had gotten close to shelfwarmer status.
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As long as these don't clog the shelves and keep me from finding the new Endor/B'omarr sets, I don't mind Hasbro putting these out again for the kiddos...
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As long as these don't clog the shelves and keep me from finding the new Endor/B'omarr sets, I don't mind Hasbro putting these out again for the kiddos...
But you know it will interfer with new set distributions. It ways does.
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As long as these don't clog the shelves and keep me from finding the new Endor/B'omarr sets, I don't mind Hasbro putting these out again for the kiddos...
My feelings exactly. I don't mind these being put out there again, they are likely a pass for most of us anyways, but hopefully they won't interfere with getting the actual "new" sets later on. I'm really looking forward to the Endor Bunker set. I don't know about other areas, but around here the recent Battle Packs seem to sell pretty well - and actually, surprising to me, the Hoth Recon set seems to be sitting the most. That's the one I was looking forward to the most.
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I'm actually kinda looking forward to seeing what the packaged Dagobah set could look like in the Legacy line. If it looks nice, I might be just lame enough to buy it and display it. :-X
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I'm actually kinda looking forward to seeing what the packaged Dagobah set could look like in the Legacy line.
Then click here. (http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/TLCBPjeditraining1.jpg) Follow the link in Brian's post to see the rest of them... ;)
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As long as these don't clog the shelves and keep me from finding the new Endor/B'omarr sets, I don't mind Hasbro putting these out again for the kiddos...
But you know it will interfer with new set distributions. It ways does.
Yep. Are these due out before or after the Endor Bunker and Yavin sets?
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As long as these don't clog the shelves and keep me from finding the new Endor/B'omarr sets, I don't mind Hasbro putting these out again for the kiddos...
What's the B'omarr set all about? Did I miss something along the way?
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As long as these don't clog the shelves and keep me from finding the new Endor/B'omarr sets, I don't mind Hasbro putting these out again for the kiddos...
What's the B'omarr set all about? Did I miss something along the way?
Clone Wars cartoon set. Two blue STAPs, Anakin w/ knees, and a battle droid. Can't blame you for forgeting about it... I don't really keep up with Legacy as I'm not collecting a lot of it.
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I'm actually kinda looking forward to seeing what the packaged Dagobah set could look like in the Legacy line.
Then click here. (http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/TLCBPjeditraining1.jpg) Follow the link in Brian's post to see the rest of them... ;)
Blah. Pass.
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According to Jedi Temple Archives (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4332/#details), the recent re-release of the "Jedi Training on Dagobah" battle pack is fairly different from the previous (TAC) version. All the figures have paint differences, and a different Vader is used for the "spirit of" version in this pack. More details broken down at the linky.
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Thanks for the link Brian, cuz I'm going to need that loose Vader.
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Wow. I wish I didn't know that. Still, I don't know if the Vader is a strong enough reason for me to pick up this set.
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Lame... I'm in the market now for one of these...
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Did I miss this one or is it still on the way? I seem to recall seeing one but not buying it, and now I'm looking for one and can't find it.
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I've seen them at various times over the past month or so at Target but nothing in any real quantity.
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Did we ever see a DCPI for the recent Dagobah battle pack? I was thinking I could try to pin point one somewhere in the metroplex with a little luck, and a number.
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I was sort of surprised to see the Geonosis BP in the display at Toy Fair. That one seemed to really sit the last time around, and they seemed to use the crappiest versions available for many of the figures in it. It seems like if they were doing a Geonosis pack again, they could at least grab the Evolutions Fett, Dooku, and better selections overall. Oh well, not like I'm going to pick it up anyways, but it seems like the Geo scene(s) in AOTC were some of the best parts of the movie - you'd think they could come up with a better pack.
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Actually I think that was just a packaging mock-up for the Geonosis Assault BP that includes the Gunship Turret and Clone Pilots. Unless they are having 2 BPs with the same name.
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TF2009/Hasbropanel/Slide22.JPG)
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Actually I think that was just a packaging mock-up for the Geonosis Assault BP that includes the Gunship Turret and Clone Pilots. Unless they are having 2 BPs with the same name.
Ah, that makes sense. Disregard my earlier complaining then. The Turret pack is pretty cool, hopefully it looks good on the Gunship.
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Actually, it does look like the other "Geonosis Assault" battle pack will be re-released.
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TF2009/Hasbro-SW/IMG_1972.JPG)
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Sorry to keep going back to this but I want to make sure I don't miss anything.
The 30thAC version of this battle pack had a new vader (kitbash...) right?
And the new version of this battle pack has a slightly different vader right?
So, to have all bases covered I actually would have to buy both releases of this set?
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So, to have all bases covered I actually would have to buy both releases of this set?
Yes, based on your "I have 1 of everything" figure collection, you will need both Rob. Both figures are "new" editions/repaints of existing Vader figures.
The 30AC version is a "muddy spirit" repaint/kitbash of the POTJ Dagobah Vader sculpt with the head from the PotJ Emperor's Wrath Vader figure (this same figure was used for the 2004 "Silver Vader" from TRU).
The Legacy Collection version is a new "spirit" repaint/retool that uses the POTJ Emperor's Wrath Vader sculpt (which was last used for 30AC Hologram Vader).
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That's what I thought.
Thanks Jeff. This should be the last time I bump this one. :)
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Here I go again...
I just stumbled across this:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS83945
Anyone know what the deal is with that, and is that the same Vader? I could always just get this instead of ordering up the 30thAC version of the Dagobah Battle Pack.
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I just stumbled across this:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS83945
Anyone know what the deal is with that, and is that the same Vader? I could always just get this instead of ordering up the 30thAC version of the Dagobah Battle Pack.
I have no clue, but I saw that set on clearance at Kmart a few weeks back for $16-$17ish.
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Anyone know what the deal is with that, and is that the same Vader?
No... and (maybe) yes.
The "Legends of the Saga" box set was available two ways - first, as a K-Mart Exclusive and second, now available through EE.
The K-Mart version of the "Legends of the Saga" box set does NOT contain the same Vader as the 30AC "Training on Dagobah" BP. The K-Mart version of the set (according to RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/tlcSLlegendsofthesaga.asp)) originally shipped with a "regular" black Vader repaint of the "PotJ Dagobah Vader with PotJ Emp Wrath Vader head" figure, which would be yet ANOTHER Vader you need since you don't seem to have this set yet.
Now, the EE version of the set? Well, there's some debate there. Quite a few people have claimed (and the EE pic suggests) that the EE version of the "Legends of the Saga" set *may* be different from the K-Mart version. There are claims that the EE version of the set does indeed contain the "muddy spirit" repaint of the "PotJ Dagobah Vader with PotJ Emp Wrath Vader head" figure, previously found in the 30AC Dagobah Training Battle Pack.
Like I said though, I haven't seen anyone offer proof positive that the EE set has a variant Vader. Lots of rumors, but no one ever produced pics of an EE set to prove that rumored Vader variant.
So, in summary, you now need to find...
1) The original K-Mart "Legends of the Saga" box set
2) The 30AC "Training on Dagobah" BP -or- the EE version of the "Legends of the Saga" Box Set, IF you can find someplace that can confirm the rumor/pic that indicates the "muddy spirit" version is in there
3) The Legacy Collection "Training on Dagobah" BP
Only then will you have all the Vaders that you seek... ;)
(and with that, I will now go off someplace and be embarassed by the level of nerdiness knowledge that my brain contains :-[)
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You shouldn't be embarrassed Jeff, I should be, for actually wanting to pick up these lame kitbashed Vaders. I just decided I'm not going out of my way though. If I run into them cheap somewhere, great. If not, eff it.
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I'm in the same boat, Rob. It's getting ridiculous. I don't see why they had to go and change the Vader except to get people who tend to be completists to buy it.
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I ordered the newest one from HTS the other day after looking for it in stores for about 2 months, and go figure I found one at Target last night.
Still trying to locate the K-Mart version.
TAC Version seems to be readily available on eBay.
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Refresh my memory, what's the K-Mart version?
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The one from the Legends of the Saga Multipack
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Right, but how is it different from any previously released Vader?
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Jeff explained it on page two...
"The K-Mart version of the "Legends of the Saga" box set does NOT contain the same Vader as the 30AC "Training on Dagobah" BP. The K-Mart version of the set (according to RS) originally shipped with a "regular" black Vader repaint of the "PotJ Dagobah Vader with PotJ Emp Wrath Vader head" figure, which would be yet ANOTHER Vader you need since you don't seem to have this set yet."
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I just ordered the last of these... the new Saga Collection one from HTS, the K-Mart one through eBay, and now the 30thAC one through RS.
Grand total, about $65, minus whatever I can recoup selling off the duplicates.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
But once the stuff I've ordered gets here I'll only 2 known figures away from having that complete set again...
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I just ordered the last of these... the new Saga Collection one from HTS, the K-Mart one through eBay, and now the 30thAC one through RS.
Grand total, about $65, minus whatever I can recoup selling off the duplicates.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
But once the stuff I've ordered gets here I'll only 2 known figures away from having that complete set again...
For all of 2 days or so! ;D
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For all of 2 days or so! ;D
I don't count anything that's upcoming or in stores now when I say I'm only missing two figures. It'll be up to me to stay current, but this year I focused on going back and finding kit-bashes and re-tooled figures that I missed the first time through (usually because I didn't realize they were different at the time). :)
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Jeff explained it on page two...
"The K-Mart version of the "Legends of the Saga" box set does NOT contain the same Vader as the 30AC "Training on Dagobah" BP. The K-Mart version of the set (according to RS) originally shipped with a "regular" black Vader repaint of the "PotJ Dagobah Vader with PotJ Emp Wrath Vader head" figure, which would be yet ANOTHER Vader you need since you don't seem to have this set yet."
Ughhh. I didn't need to know that. It's bad enough I caved and just bought the Legacy Training on Dagobah BP.
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My Legacy version got here yesterday... I actually kept 4 of the 5 figures. The Artoo is painted up differently than the other two dirty Artoos that I had. The Luke is slightly different from the other versions and the Yoda is painted differently enough from the OTC one that I thought it looked cool next to the other one, and of course Vader was the whole point.
Spirit Ben was the only one that was nearly identical (slight differences but nothing structural or major).
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Hasbro letīs return the UBP : Hoth and Endor :)
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My Legacy version got here yesterday... I actually kept 4 of the 5 figures. The Artoo is painted up differently than the other two dirty Artoos that I had. The Luke is slightly different from the other versions and the Yoda is painted differently enough from the OTC one that I thought it looked cool next to the other one, and of course Vader was the whole point.
Spirit Ben was the only one that was nearly identical (slight differences but nothing structural or major).
Do you still have the spirit Ben by chance? I never did get a loose version of that figure.
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I sure do - shoot me a PM and he's all yours.
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K-Mart version got here today.
30thAC Battlepack should be here by Monday.
And then I'll have all the lame kit-bashed Vader's that I know of and will be able to stop bumping this thread.
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Bigbadtoystore just listed of a new BP case which are
1x Commando Droids
1x Jelli Grub Patrol
1x Ewoks
1x Geonosis Assault
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The Ewoks better have more than four and all of the remaining vintage ones that need updating or I'm taking a hostage.
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You know they will just repaint the ones we got and call them names that have nothing to do with the vintage ones.
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Ewoks! Wow! Depending if they throw in a catapult or something like that (glider?), We should have 6 of these Ewoks (unless they throw in Han, Leia, Chewie or someone like that).
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If at least two of them are the pair that hijacked the AT ST with Chewie, I'll be happy.
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I'm hoping that Ewok one is packed full of awesomeness...
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3 wickets repainted, 1 Logray repack, 1 cardboard catapult. 4 limp Wicket spears. $25.
Of course, I too am hoping for something awesome. I would be ok with repaints of the latest Ewok sculpts if they maybe had some new hoods and weapons. I liked the comic pack we got of Ewoks and they're kinda funky colors. They're still pretty nice filler furballs.
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Like others, I'm really hoping for something nice with that Ewok pack. We should be able to get at least 5-6 ewoks if that's all that is included in the pack, or maybe we can get a nice "large accessory" before the battle packs switch back to the slim style box. It would be nice to get at least one of the unmade vintage 'woks, but even if it were repaints with new hoods/etc. of the recent ewok sculpts, that wouldn't be terrible either.
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I don't think anyone should expect more Ewoks in this thing then we get regular figures in a regular battle pack. They charge full price for a single-carded Ewok and I doubt this will be any different, especially if they throw in a cool accessory like a catapult or something.
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Yeah I wouldn't get my quantity hopes up too much. I don't see any reason to think things are going to get better any time soon. Hopefully they will stay the same and not get worse.
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Since the new standard for battlepacks is 4 figures and ewoks are smaller figures, I could see Hasbro putting something extra in. That Walmart pack has three (repainted) ewoks when we usually get only 2 figures in that format... By that logic I think it'd be reasonable to get four ewoks plus a reasonably large accessory (I'm thinking the glider, or a catapult which comes collapsed in the box but snaps together), or 2-3 ewoks and a couple imperials.
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Since we got the Training on the Falcon BP to accessorize the BMF, maybe we'll get a Ewok BP to accessorize that rumored BMF-AT-ST? I could see a BP pack with a catapult, a couple Ewoks and Tarzan Chewy with vine.
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Maybe it will come with the log that the big Target Battle Pack came with. Think about it! A friggin' log!!
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Maybe it will come with the log that the big Target Battle Pack came with. Think about it! A friggin' log!!
Yeah, probably.
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Maybe it will come with the log that the big Target Battle Pack came with. Think about it! A friggin' log!!
Yeah, probably.
No, it'll come with a molded hill, for the logs to roll down.
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JediInsider has pics...glad I don't get my hopes up anymore ::)
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From bigbadtoystore:
(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS17010.jpg)
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JediInsider has pics...glad I don't get my hopes up anymore ::)
Holy crap is the jetpack clone lame. They easily could of done a couple clones with Rex from the Battle of Christophsis. (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Clonejettrooper.jpg) Looks like I'll be making my own battle pack.
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Holy worthless pile of **** batman! :)
The Gelagrub set looks like it'll be nice, but sparse for what you'll pay. One figure and a mount? Yeesh.
And the Commando Droids force you to buy animated Clones, so I think I'm passing on that one now as well.
Really, they all kinda blow in one way or another.
By the way, Luke wasn't even at the battle of Endor. :) Fantastic theme.
The Ewok set is such an easy pass it's not even funny... The Gelagrub set stings. You should get at least 2 Clones, but that appears to not be the case. I'll buy it, but begrudgingly. One grub and one Clone? That sucks.
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Looking forward to the grub (despite the price) and the commando droids! :)
The other two are easy passes, although unfortunately I'll probably buy the Endor one when I see it for the glider, which I missed the first time around. :-\
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Wow - bring on the suck!
Out of the four, I think the only one I'm "kinda" happy is coming is the Gelagrub Patrol one. Sure there should be two clones and two grubs, but since the Dewback and Stormtrooper was $14.99 ten years ago, it's only fair that it's a $23 item now.
The rest are lame.
Like Jesse pointed out - Luke wasn't even at the Battle of Endor - why not just pack in two more Ewoks?
The Commando Droids set should have just had four droids - there's no need for another animated clone - I suppose if I had to pick one other set I didn't mind - this would be it.
And of course, I'm still peeved that the Gunship Gun Pod pack only comes with ONE pod....
Battlepacks are officially no longer a good "value".
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Wow, those are a bit disappointing. It definitely seems like the "less for more" theme is carrying over across the line anymore. The Gelagrub is kind of cool, and something I might pick up - but like many have mentioned it seems pretty sparse for $20-25 anymore. I'm most disappointed in the Endor pack, since I was really looking forward to seeing what was included there. I really don't have a need for anything in there, but they'll probably make that ewok just different enough that I might be tempted. It is too bad really, the battle packs used to really feel like a pretty good value (even the figure only ones), but that seems to be slowly going away. We used to get 5 figures for $20 (at least), and now we're getting what used to be $10-15 deluxe figures.
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???
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:'(
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YAY! A big, blue slug!
;)
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Well, I need a couple gelagrubs with the 327th Star Corps rider. There's no way around that.
I do love me some commando droids, those things were totally badass in the Clone Wars show. I'll need to see the figures.
The clone pods for the gunship, well, yeah I'll get those too. Looks good, will look good on the gunships i reckon.
The Endor one I doubt I'll get, sweet ewok or no sweet ewok.
So definites on the slug and pods, maybe on the commando droids and no to the endor.
I'm not really as disappointed as most of you are in these, for a change. Usually by this time I'll have the pitchforks and torches at the ready.
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Lame lame lame. Hasbro's only milking me for some of the Gunpod sets. Pass on the others. Put these back at $19.99 and I might think about it, but I don't like paying more and getting less so they can sit on these. ::)
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Let me guess, the Ewok will be painted differently and the Imperial will have a new head on him.
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It'll be interesting to see if the Commando Droids in this BP are different from the basic figure release. They probably will be knowing them.
Let me guess, the Ewok will be painted differently and the Imperial will have a new head on him.
Maybe it'll be the Imp Officer that was dropped from the Assault on the Endor Bunker BP.
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It looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue. :-\
It looks like we are seeing the last days of the battlepack.
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It looks like we are seeing the last days of the battlepack.
The only thing that has me hoping they continue is the inclusion of larger items like the grub or the Yavin cart.
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It'll be interesting to see if the Commando Droids in this BP are different from the basic figure release. They probably will be knowing them.
Actually I'm kind of curious to see if that Clone in the Commando Droid pack will actually the Commando Droid in Clone armor. That would be something cool to do in that particular set.
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It'll be interesting to see if the Commando Droids in this BP are different from the basic figure release. They probably will be knowing them.
Actually I'm kind of curious to see if that Clone in the Commando Droid pack will actually the Commando Droid in Clone armor. That would be something cool to do in that particular set.
That would be pretty sweet, but I doubt they even considered it. :-\
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It'll be interesting to see if the Commando Droids in this BP are different from the basic figure release. They probably will be knowing them.
Actually I'm kind of curious to see if that Clone in the Commando Droid pack will actually the Commando Droid in Clone armor. That would be something cool to do in that particular set.
That would be pretty sweet, but I doubt they even considered it. :-\
Well, at least it looks like there's a extra clone helmet in there, which is something.
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My major problem with these (and I know I'm beating a dead horse) is that Hasbro's trying to have their cake and eat it too with the Battle Packs. First they dropped the fifth figure to keep the price at 20 bucks; then the figure is dropped but the price goes up anyway. First they claimed oil prices as the reason for the cuts; now they're claiming "various factors" for the price increase but not including a fifth figure. Now it looks like they're going even cheaper with two out of the four packs shown.
The Endor set looks to be the Imperial Officer that was dropped from the Shield Generator Assault pack, along with the 2003 Saga Ultra Ewok Glider, an Ewok that is likely repainted with a different hood, and (if they're being nice) the 2006 TSC Endor Luke accessories on the 2007 30AC Jabba's Palace Luke with a new (probably just painted) gloved hand.
Hasbro's already announced that they're doing a single carded Commando Droid, and since all but two of the Clones in "Rookies" were shiny throughout (and since we're getting Echo and the helmet of the squad's commander in the basic line), unless this one has a droid head underneath, it's a wash and a waste of time. And call me cynical, but with the third commando droid being so far back in the background, it wouldn't shock me at this point if Hasbro dropped the fourth figure either.
The Gunship Pods are basically Hasbro's way to make easy money off suckers like me who will buy two of the sets just to get the pods. While I don't like the fact that there's only one pod in the set, what bothers me more at this point is that Hasbro won't even include regular Clone helmets along with the two pilots so we don't end up with a dearth of pilots buying multiple packs.
The Gelagrub is the only real "winner" of these four in my book, and even so, 25 bucks for a single piece of plastic with a kitbashed Clone riding it is way overpriced. Maybe if they threw in another 327th Trooper, and I might even give it to them if the Gelagrub is molded in translucent "jelly" plastic (even though it likely won't be, as that money is needed in the Saga Legends line to crank out more Saesee Tiins and Plo Koons), but when your "best" set is only barely passable...
Like Pete said, the days of getting a "deal" (for kids or collectors) with the Battle Packs are OVER.
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I think they are deliberately gouging us with both the $8 basic figs and $25 bps. The big spike in CW sales has reinforced the "movie year" mentality that we've seen before from Hasbro. Once the sales are "opened up" by a big movie/media push that pulls in the non-collector, Hasbro cranks up the prices to best exploit their limited window of opportunity of selling to the non-core fan audience. They know the CW rage will eventually die down, and that then they'll be left with us collector types. That's the point when you'll see prices drop across the line.
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I think they are deliberately gouging us with both the $8 basic figs and $25 bps. The big spike in CW sales has reinforced the "movie year" mentality that we've seen before from Hasbro. Once the sales are "opened up" by a big movie/media push that pulls in the non-collector, Hasbro cranks up the prices to best exploit their limited window of opportunity of selling to the non-core fan audience. They know the CW rage will eventually die down, and that then they'll be left with us collector types. That's the point when you'll see prices drop across the line.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but lower prices have generally happened at the same time as movie releases. $4.99 ROTS figures in 2005 come to mind.
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I think they are deliberately gouging us with both the $8 basic figs and $25 bps. The big spike in CW sales has reinforced the "movie year" mentality that we've seen before from Hasbro. Once the sales are "opened up" by a big movie/media push that pulls in the non-collector, Hasbro cranks up the prices to best exploit their limited window of opportunity of selling to the non-core fan audience. They know the CW rage will eventually die down, and that then they'll be left with us collector types. That's the point when you'll see prices drop across the line.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but lower prices have generally happened at the same time as movie releases. $4.99 ROTS figures in 2005 come to mind.
Honestly now that you say that I can't be sure. I would have sworn that during some of the prequels prices were jacked up only to fall off after a period of time. Didn't we see $7.99 figures once before? During TPM, per chance? Maybe the ROTS pricing was a reaction to slower sales from the previous prequels... Ugh I really can't remember now...
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Yeah that happened with EI, it was the first time we saw $8 figures (Target only I think) and prices settled back down shortly after. But I think EII and EIII both saw $4.99 for midnight madness with prices going up a month or three later.
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Prices for AOTC and ROTS actually started out at $6 and then fell to $5, at least around here (Iowa). I think these BP's are among the least exciting they've ever offered. The Gela Grub one or whatever it is is a Deluxe figure. The Ewok one is a waste of a good opportunity. I can't add anything to the turret debate. If collectors start to depart the line in large numbers because of prices, maybe it will have an impact, but maybe not.
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The only thing I have a problem with is their prices on these sets. I have been crying about prices on figures and other items for awhile now so it's not that surprising or upsetting to me. You can't really expect me to believe that the retailers are the ones setting the prices. I am sure Hasbro has a bit of input with it. I actually like the gelagrub and trooper. The battle of endor set is ok except for Luke but they can't resist throwing a Luke into anything and everything. The commando droid set is decent if you like the Clone Wars. If you do then most would want at least 2 of those figures anyway. If you buy them seperately that's $7.50-$8 allready. Of course the gunner set hurts because we only get 1 pod. I really don't need 2 more clonepilots but oh well. I am not going to buy all of these packs but there is something in each pack that tempts me honestly.
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Personally I don't have an issue with the inclusion of the 2 pilots in the Geonosis set. Sure, if they would have thrown in the standard grunt helmet it would have been nice, but I have so many standard clones that I've picked up army building that outfitting the turrets won't be an problem. I rather have the extra pilot as those have been released far more sparingly (only in Evolution sets) and the gunship needs a pilot and co-pilot/gunner anyway.
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As previously stated, yeah, the Imperial officer is obviously the dropped one from the bunker set. The set just screams of being thrown together just to get this figure released. I just wish it was done better - I didn't know Luke took part in the Ewok battle.
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Hi res:
better images (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Hasbro%2FBattlepack%2F&dispsize=600&start=0)
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Awful stuff...
The Endor set has to be one of the biggest pieces of crap since the original 2005 Battle Packs. We should have gotten the Ewok Glider, a second Ewok, a Stormtrooper and a Biker Scout. Maybe even instead of the Ewok, put in the VOTC Chewie with a vine to swing on and do Tarzan yells. Instead we get the Glider, an Imperial Officer (the one dropped from the previous Endor pack?) which I believe were all hiding in the bunker when the battle happened (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't seen ROTJ in a while) and Luke, who was nowhere near Endor when the battle happened. Yeah, excellent choices Hasbro!
I don't watch the Clone Wars cartoon (not on at a good time for me and I'm waiting for the DVD season set) and don't buy the figures so no comment
The Felucia Battle Pack should not even be a Battle Pack, but would be a perfect start for a new Deluxe line with a $12-$13 price point. Throw in an extra Clone or two (or a second slug and clone to make it similar to those Speeder Bike battle packs) and it would be fair but I'm not going to drop almost $25 on a nonarticulate blue slug that had a second of screen time.
The Gunship Battle Pack, eh I can't complain really since I'll buy two for my Gunship. Although with the price increase we should either get 2 pods and 1 clone or maybe a regular Clone figure thrown in.
Still though that Endor set... has to be one of the funniest POS sets we've ever gotten. I can't wait to have it clogging shelves.
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Some officers were outside the bunker when the battle happened... Still not a great figure in and of itself, so I'm not gonna bite on that one just to get that and the Ewok.
The Gelagrub and Gunship pod are the only things I'm sure I'll buy.
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I will get the Endor BP, because I don't have an gilder. That Luke looks like the 30AC Jabba Luke with the Endor Poncho but still I would have prefer VOTC Chewie w/ his At-St hyjackers ewoks and or a catapult.
I don't know about the others, I would love to have the back drops.
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Ewok Set - It looks like a 100% repack/Kit bash stuff so unless there is something really exclusive - I will pass.
Grub - PASS
Gunship - PASS
Commando Battle Droids - Only because of my Droid collection will I get it for the different looking Commando's.
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I like all the sets just fine, but $26.00 after tax is way too much for ANY of them. Seriously, the Grub and one figures? $26.00?
Three figures and a repacked glider for $26? Two figures and a deluxe accessory?
This is absurd. These are $20.00 sets.
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I don't even think the Grub/Trooper set is $20. More like $15. So the $26 is way too high.
The clone pilot set barely amounts to more than $15.
The Endor set maybe $20.
The Clone and Battle droid set is a solid $20 set. But $26?
Way to rape us Hasbro. SHAME on you for being so greedy.
Eventually I'll get all of these sets, but I'll look to get two of them on clearance. It's the only way we can change them folks. Vote with your dollars!
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Currently, my Target has BPs priced at $21 or $22, so I'm down with these. If the price goes up any more in my area the value will be in doubt.
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Currently, my Target has BPs priced at $21 or $22, so I'm down with these. If the price goes up any more in my area the value will be in doubt.
Have you had the Yavin one hit yet? Because every Target in this area upped their price to $23.99 the minute those went on the shelves. I managed to get my first one for $21.99 but they've fixed the price.
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I got Jabba for $22, but they didn't have the Yavin set. Though they're in the same wave, correct? I'm sure I'll post a bitchy complaint when they up the price, so you'll know when they do I suppose.
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Currently, my Target has BPs priced at $21 or $22, so I'm down with these. If the price goes up any more in my area the value will be in doubt.
Have you had the Yavin one hit yet? Because every Target in this area upped their price to $23.99 the minute those went on the shelves. I managed to get my first one for $21.99 but they've fixed the price.
Good catch! Their tags says $21.99 but the price rang $23.99. I saved $6 by showing the manager what is was advertised on shelf. By law they have to honor it. what's sad is $6 cannot even buy a basic figures but it bought my Jaamba Juice!
I am down with all of the movie sets but the value of a Battlepack is long gone, I think we will never see the Illum BP value ever again. ****, even the Jedi.Palps pack is better value than these.
I agree, the Gelagrub is an overpriced deluxe figure, they could have stuffed an Aayla in there at least to make it similiar to the Yavin set in value. I already swapped my TAC Luke with the Saga2 Endor Gear like the one in the Battlepack but I am happy we are getting the other Imperial officer that got whacked in the first round of cuts for Battlepacks. I always welcome the Ewoks, I hope it has a new head at least.
The Gunship BP is gonna suck big hairy Bantha Balls. Outfitting my Gunship fleet is gonna Suck but maybe selling all of the leftover pilots will make up some loot......
Strangely enough the Yavin pack seems worth the money, everything in it was great 3 figures and a meaty mini rig seems ok to me.
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Currently, my Target has BPs priced at $21 or $22, so I'm down with these. If the price goes up any more in my area the value will be in doubt.
Have you had the Yavin one hit yet? Because every Target in this area upped their price to $23.99 the minute those went on the shelves. I managed to get my first one for $21.99 but they've fixed the price.
The Gunship BP is gonna suck big hairy Bantha Balls. Outfitting my Gunship fleet is gonna Suck but maybe selling all of the leftover pilots will make up some loot......
My Jabba BP was actually less... $21.59. Hopefully my local store keeps those prices.
I'll pick up four Gunship sets and a few Gelagrubs, but not happily. They're cool in my opinion, but not great values. Gelagrub could've used another figure. I was surprised that it only had one. The Commando set looks great, I'll pick up 4-8. Great for building up Droid and Clone forces. I cannot complain about value for that one, as picking up three individual Commando Droids will also cost $24. I might get Endor. I didn't get the first set, but I kinda want to.
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I actually like the Jabba & Yavin sets, but this is most likely the last time I'm paying a ridiculous amount of money for these outside of the Gunship BP that we're also getting raped on. I have multiple Gunships, and I'm not looking forward to paying a small fortune to outfit them. Come on Hasbro - at least put 2 pods in there and 1 pilot. You were thinking about 2 pods and 2 pilots at one time at this price point. asses. >:(
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The more I think about the grub, the more bothered I am by it. It's very very nice and something I've wanted for a long time, but still....damn. It's a grub and a clone for $25. This really should be a $10 deluxe figure. Heck, I could've seen them doing it in the basic figure line back in the TAC value days where figures came with moisture vaporators, kybucks, and torture racks. Those days are now long gone, unfortunately. But still, like many others have said, they could have at least thrown in another clone or even the crappy ROTS Aayla just to make it a better value. It's like if they had made the Scramble on Yavin BP JUST the sled and the hangar tech. People probably still would've bought it, albeit very begrudgingly. Anyways, I guess I'll just wrap up my rant by echoing the general sentiment that the days of getting value in the Battle Packs are long gone. And sadly, as long as Hasbro keeps putting out such cool stuff like the grub and the turrets (although even I'm not enough of a sucker to bite on the turret set), people will keep buying the ridiculously overpriced battle packs. One can only wonder how long Hasbro can keep this up, though. And how far they'll go before it comes back to bite them in the butt. EDIT: (and how they'll find a way to blame collectors when it does) . :-\
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Yeah, it will be interesting to see what the future of battle packs will hold. At a time it was more aimed towards kids and was a good place to find a "value pack" of 5 figures for $20. Lately we've been seeing some cooler, larger pieces included in the packs and even some new (or new-ish) figures. From what I understand from past Q and A's, these "larger" boxed packs will be going away next fall (I think Hasbro specifically said to buy those turrets while you can), in favor of the older, slim-boxed packs - essentially bringing the end to the mini-rig like pieces like the Yavin cart. If that is where they are going, they definitely better add in some more figures again to increase the value.
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I can't imagine the great reception and subsequent sales of the Yavin pack will have Hasbro abandon the mini vehicles. Anton alone is supporting this pack :P. How great would it be to get an Echo Base cart and a couple troopers!
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I think itd be awesome for Hasbro to expand on this cart idea, whether that means a running change in two months to have a different droid/pilot combo, or an imperial version, or a Hoth or Home One version, though I think some have pointed out those sleds are a bit different. IIRC wasn't this asked during an Ask Hasbro session in the last few months and they indicated, at the time, that it wasn't something they planned on doing? I can't recall a set getting such a warm response from collectors, so maybe that'll help them reconsider.
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I like all the sets just fine, but $26.00 after tax is way too much for ANY of them. Seriously, the Grub and one figures? $26.00?
Three figures and a repacked glider for $26? Two figures and a deluxe accessory?
This is absurd. These are $20.00 sets.
I think the $26 price point for battle packs is only at select stores. It definitely surprised me when I bought the Jabba pack this past week. But on the same toy run I was able to find the Yavin battle pack at another Target store and the price was lower. It's strange, but not unheard of. The $26 pack I got was in a nicer neighborhood, while the cheaper set was in a more urban area.
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Looks like Hasbro has updated their QnA with RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_70th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_122331.asp) comfirming that the Ewok in the BP is in fact Warok. Cross another Vintage "yet to be made" figure off the list.
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Looks like Hasbro has updated their QnA with RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_70th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_122331.asp) comfirming that the Ewok in the BP is in fact Warok. Cross another Vintage "yet to be made" figure off the list.
And, I guess that means I'll be paying $25 for the Ewok :P. I was on the fence about buying the pack anyways, but at least it will provide a "new" Ewok.
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I don't actually have any of the figures in the Endor set so I may just pick it up. It's the only one that I have any interest in really.
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While it still hurts at this price point, I was buying it for the Imperial, the Ewok and the glider so getting Warok finally is a definite bonus. It does suck for those that were hoping it was a generic Ewok though.
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While it still hurts at this price point, I was buying it for the Imperial, the Ewok and the glider so getting Warok finally is a definite bonus. It does suck for those that were hoping it was a generic Ewok though.
Yeah, I was probably going to buy this pack anyways too - but I'm glad to see that it is a new Ewok. I was worried that they would stick in the old Ewok from the previous glider set - but it looks like it will be more articulated than that.
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Maybe they'll release a carded version of Warok later?
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Yay, Warok! Added bonus.
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I see RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Battle_Packs_Images_124548.asp) has a look at some of the upcoming Battle Packs, the Battle for Endor, Gelagrub Patrol, and the Clone Wars Rishi Moon Outpost Attack packs. I'm definitely in for the Endor one, and I'm on the fence with the Gelagrub Patrol one. The grub looks kind of neat, and it looks like they have soft goods on the Clone included to make it "just different enough".
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He also has ball-joint hips. I wonder if the gelagrub has some other feature as it has a translucent head. Maybe it lights up like a glow worm?
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Clone + grub =/= $25.
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I know a lot of guys have been excited to get the Gelagrub, but it's just not doing it for me. It looks goofy to me, a Clone on a worm. :-\
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I'm really debating passing on the Gelagrub unless I can find it cheap. THat's a real rape with the price. They really couldn't include a nice accurate deco COmmander Bly with it, just to ease the pain?
Sure they could... I know price-bitching is old hat these days, but come on already... That thing stings the wallet just looking at it. :-\
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I'm really debating passing on the Gelagrub unless I can find it cheap. THat's a real rape with the price. They really couldn't include a nice accurate deco COmmander Bly with it, just to ease the pain?
Sure they could... I know price-bitching is old hat these days, but come on already... That thing stings the wallet just looking at it. :-\
I was thinking the same thing. A nice, accurate Bly would have made this price/set much more palatable.
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I completely agree that the Slug set is a total rip-off, but the fact that my collecting habits have changed in the last year make picking just one up, as opposed to two or more, less painful.
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Let me ask then, what do you all think the price for this set should have been?
If there are no moving parts to the worm (as it seems) and it doesn't light up, then the worm is basically a hunk of sculpted plastic.
If this is true, then that set really shouldn't have been more than $15. I think that would have been fair.
Big problem is packaging. Hasbro seems to want to stick to window packaging for flare. But there seems to be a lot of wasted space with this set. Put this in a smaller box, maybe have a small window for the figure (and yes I agree an accurate Bly would have been nice-though I have one already). For one, printing costs alone would have dramatically dropped if it was only the outer packaging that was printed on.
I really think Hasbro needs to rethink how they package stuff. The non-window boxes are just fine. Certainly they are less expensive.
Now this may rub carded/MIB collectors the wrong way. However, this is business. Hasbro needs to find some ways to cut costs. Packaging is definitely one of those ways. If someone who is a carded collector just wants to display boxes of stuff, then heck, I'll send you my boxes of toys. Just pay for shipping and it's yours. I'm not a carded collector, so I don't see the sense in having things display that you can't pick up, turn around, repose, etc. So the difference between window boxes and non-window boxes is what? That you can see the real toy? Meh, I'd rather save some scratch and buy stuff in traditional boxes.
Just an opinion though.
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I don't know guys. That looks like the same old ewok we've gotten dozens of times already just repainted. Easy pass. The clone on the worm is lame with a capital L. The one with the robot wearing the clone helmet looks interesting. Too bad they didn't put more clone armor on the robot.
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I think $15 for the Gelagrub set would be more in line as well, particularly if the grub is basically just a large PVC figure. The clone is nice enough, but it might have almost been better to just put the grub in the "deluxe" assortment - if it would fit in.
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I think the Grub is cool, because I love beasts/animals in Star Wars.
But other than that, I'm aggravated... the clone is fine other than I hate the bulky removable helmet. Plus just one figure in here is a swift kick to the nuts.
Throw in a Felucian Warrior repack from the TFU Rancor or something...
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If it wasn't for the price of these packs, I would care about the Pilots, and the Grub but not at $25 a pop. I will get the Endor BP because I don't have the gilder. I figure the Saga Ultra costs just has much has today BP to get, so bring on Warok.
If you count the POTF2 Wicket/Logray and POTJ Palpoo/Teebo, Its just Lumat left in from the Vintage collection. (I don't count the POTF2 Wicket/Logray and POTJ Palpoo)
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Even if it were $20, it'd still sting because not only have we gotten a price hike but we've gotten less stuff... Hasbro said they were cutting back the # of figures in battlepacks to cut costs, which was tough to take at the time since BP's were mostly repaints and whatnot. What stings is they also have now jacked up prices on battlepacks. If it had another figure, I'd be alright. Not really overly happy, but I'd still buy one (not more though).
As it stands I'm very seriously considering not buying the grub pack, and that is something new, realistically sculpted, that I actually wanted... This line's just going a bit far with price hikes and giving you less on top of asking more for it. I'm very disappointed I guess. I really didn't think I'd hit this point, but I am and it's a very disappointing feeling.
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I'm not buying the grub, which is a $15 toy in a $25 box. I may break down on the Endor set, though there's a lack of value there as well. None of these suggest the value of previous sets, or even their desirability.
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The Grub BP is a deluxe set easy and should have been priced accordingly.
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4 new BP's for next year:
1x Birth of Darth Vader
1x Tatooine Desert Ambush
1x Holocron
1x Jedi Showdown
Obviously...no word on what they contain
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"Birth of Darth Vader" - Could this one just be the working title for that Mustafar repack set they showed at SDCC?
"Holocron" - This set is supposed to be based on the "Holocron Heist" season 2 premiere episodes of CW. I think it was confirmed at SDCC or the Q&A, don't remember which though?
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I was wondering that too as the "Jedi Showdown" kind of works for that Kamino Confrontation set we're getting as well.
I'm also thinking that Tatooine Desert Ambush is a CW movie theme set, maybe with a couple Grievous bodyguards, one with the alternate head, along with an Anakin with backpack and maybe a Dooku.
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4 new BP's for next year:
1x Birth of Darth Vader
1x Tatooine Desert Ambush
1x Holocron
1x Jedi Showdown
Obviously...no word on what they contain
My predictions?
-Birth of Darth Vader - pretty obvious. Vader, Palpatine, operating table. I figure at least one of the droids is in the set. I'd like to see a Force crushed FX-6 personally.
-Tatooine Desert Ambush - I'm thinking this is a Clone Wars pack from the movie. As far as a lineup, I think it'll be Ahsoka, R2 and the Magnaguards. Maybe we'll get the hooded Magnaguard in this pack.
-Holocron - Definitely a Clone Wars pack. It's probably going to feature Cad Bane. That's about all there is to say without straying into spoiler territory.
-Jedi showdown - A totally vague title if I ever saw one. My prediction? An AOTC theme from the hangar duel, featuring Obi-Wan, Anakin & Dooku and possibly including Yoda.
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By the titles, I hope there's nothing new in them.
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Hasbro has stated a couple of teams over the last few weeks that the Battle Packs will be reverting to repacks/repaints as opposed to new figures. So I would guess it will be crap and we won't be happy :)
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I think I'd rather see crap battle packs with no new offerings over ones with near-crap and one new figure in them. Then I can easily pass on them... I hate been torn on spending $25 for a pack that has only one figure in it that I want.
Of course in my world there would be pure repacks in about half of these for the parents to get an easy gift for the kids that refreshes main characters and army builders, while the other half kicked ass like the Yavin set.
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It's a sad thing what happened to BP's. They were a great way to get great repaints/upgrades and new items that we cannot get elsewhere.
This years packs have been great despite the price being raised. They were, to me at least, a great purchase if you reflect what's in them:
- Hoth Recon Patrol
- Hoth Speeder Bike Patrol (Interesting enough)
- SHIELD GENERATOR ASSAULT
- Scramble at Yavin
- Gelebrub Hubbub
- Battle of Geonosis
- Resurgence of the Jedi
While some my disagree these packs had more going for them than less. If Comic packs are flailing, BP's are all repacks,Evo is done, Legacy getting 2 less waves and Deluxe off limits to Legacy it's not good for the core line in my opinion. Even EE had no exclusive this year .I really liked BP's as a way to get new figures and good repaints we would not otherwise get. I hope some of thees sets at least have some upgraded paint ops but I am not holding my breath. What I do not get it that sales seem to be strong on this SKU with great sell through I understand not wanting to invest in new large tools like the Gelegrub, Cart etc having figures with new heads and maybe some gear seems like a reasonable investment to keep everyone engaged.
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If they're not going to be full of new figures, I'd rather they be 100% kid-targeted repacks.
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I've kind of enjoyed the battle packs lately as well, at least until the recent less figures/higher price change. Even though the Hoth Recon pack shelfwarmed a lot of places, I really liked that pack. Obviously the Yavin pack was great, and there have been some other cool ones over the past couple years as well. I don't mind them having the kid-targeted packs either. I know as we've bought for our nephews in the past, it really is a nice way to give them a nice "collection" of figures for a reasonable price (especially when it was 5 figures for $20). I agree that it stings when you're buying a $25 pack for basically one new figure though. I can deal with a repaint/retool or two in a pack, as long as we're getting a couple all-new things as well.
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Hasbro has stated a couple of teams over the last few weeks that the Battle Packs will be reverting to repacks/repaints as opposed to new figures. So I would guess it will be crap and we won't be happy :)
Hasbro has been somewhat contradictory on battle packs. Just look at "Resurgence of the Jedi". Those figures are all retooled.
Based on my conversations with them at SDCC, we're likely to see battle packs in either one of two formats:
-All figures are straight repacks. There are the sets that will be designed for the"birthday gift" sale.
-All figures are slightly modified or packed with different accessories. "Resurgence of the Jedi" falls into this category.
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If they're not going to be full of new figures, I'd rather they be 100% kid-targeted repacks.
I kind of agree with this... if the lithmus test of it is the Yavin IV Hangar set, which I consider outstanding despite some repainting.
I'd rather that they went full-collector with a set, or full-kid, but it's the in-between sets that hurt the most, when you plunk down $25 to get one or two figures you want, or an accessory you'd like over anything in the set. Kind of like the Vulture's Claw set (not that i"m into animated stuff). To get the Trandoshan you've gotta plunk down $25 and accept figures you either already have or simply don't want. That bites, and the way prices are going up in the line I'm more inclined not to buy at all than to buy and choke down the extra cost for the one guy.
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I don't mind smart repainting if it creates some new stuff, I just don't want 4 things I already have and one figure that I really want thrown in.
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Pure repaints are pretty limited to droids and army builders though... That's a tough one to take if it's a Vader with snow on his feet, or Luke with some green smudges on his knees. The Yavin IV pack is probably the ideal I think for most collectors... The upcoming Resurgence of the Jedi set too.
The Vulture's Claw set is kind of the anti-that... And then the stuff like the Palpatine's Office Duel set is pretty lame top to bottom and easily passed on by just about everyone.
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The Vulture's Claw set is kind of the anti-that... And then the stuff like the Palpatine's Office Duel set is pretty lame top to bottom and easily passed on by just about everyone.
I like a BP like the Palpatine Duel because as a non opener it let's "me" set up an important scene without actually opening any figs.
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The Vulture's Claw set is kind of the anti-that... And then the stuff like the Palpatine's Office Duel set is pretty lame top to bottom and easily passed on by just about everyone.
I like a BP like the Palpatine Duel because as a non opener it let's "me" set up an important scene without actually opening any figs.
I totally agree with Nick, since like him I am non-opener of the Battle Packs and I love how they set up a movie scene perfectly in small box that does not take up much space. As long as Hasbro keeps making these I will keep on buying them. 8) :)
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Nice, four very easy passes for me.
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Yeah I really am not seeing anything in there I'm wanting right now. All very much geared at kids IMO. Unless that arm holding Vader's helmet is a new piece or something I'll probably be passing on all 4 sets. That kind of makes me happy, actually. That's that much less to spend.
The basic line will keep me plenty busy, haha. Not to mention wanting 3 AT-ST's, another Octuparra Droid, the possibility of more Evolutions sets should they go on sale, the possibility of more Target 2-packs if they go on mass clearance like the previous sets, comic packs, still not finding that f'n ball turret battlepack...
Holy ****.
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I absolutely LOVE the Tatooine and Vader sets - the Clone Wars sets are, well, suckish... c'mon, Hasbro, this was the perfect opportunity to upgrade that pathetic Bane sculpt. :o I actually thought Jocasta Nu would be included, and we do not, NOT need that Yoda again! And that Jedi Showdown BP is a sore reminder that Hasbro is aiming the BPs for kids now... >:(
The Tatooine set could do with the Evo 2005 Maul (with maybe a retooled torso ???) instead of the Saga Legends figure, which is actually still on shelves. And although it fits the context of the set, re-releasing the Qui-Gon with the poncho while the exclusive Eopie offer is still going around is a bad idea. WOW, HASBRO. Really.
The Birth of Vader BP is both collector/kid oriented. Nice set, I'll try to pick this one up!
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All very much geared at kids IMO.
I'm not even sure kids want them. I mean, I see tons of CW Anakins & Osokas warming the pegs everywhere, and they plan to release not one but two battle packs with both of those figs?
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Easy passes all the way 'round.
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I may get the Vader set mainly for those 2 droids. I never bought those.
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Such an easy pass for me on all four.
Thanks Hasbro, you've saved me money yet again!
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Yep, easy passes for me too. It might justify me picking up an extra set of each Endor packs for the Imperial officers.
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Passes for me too, but I can see the appeal of the CW sets in particular for kids (or, for present buying parents/family members). Those are pretty nice make-ups as far as kiddos go, one pack has the two major heroes (Anakin/Obi) and villains (Dooku/Ventress) while the other has the "cool" new baddie (Bane), as well as Anakin/Yoda/Ahsoka. Sadly, I might have come close to biting if they had given that Cad Bane figure articulated knees - but it would be stupid to spend $25 for that ;). The non-CW sets are fairly boring to me, and I'm not sure that kids will even care about the "Birth of Vader" set. I would think most collectors already have all of those figures too. If they want sets like that to move, they should really put something new-ish in there. That being said, I'm not sad to save the money on BPs. There is more than enough stuff to keep up with the way it is, like Jesse mentioned.
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PASS. I actually hope they stay with this repack format. Not too keen on the $25 BPs nowadays and this just makes it easier. Maybe this is a "thank you" to collectors from Hasbro for screwing us on the gunpods? Yeah, probably not - but thank you Hasbro.
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As I've stated before I really like BPs because they set up some classic scene for you. However, that works when you are doing it from the movies, but when we start getting too many BPs based off of 23 minute TV episodes I think they've even lost me.
Birth of Vader-Huge important event in SW universe.
Tatooine- first Jedi Sith duel in forever
The other 2 - a couple of scenes from the TV show. Not really on par with the first two. Cool way to get a lot of cool figs if your a kid but not scenes of enough importance or no new figs for me.
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I just picked up my first Geonosis Assault BP at TRU. The Pod is awesome, much bigger than I imagined. This is what makes me sad with the future of BP's. Some of the best stuff in Legacy has been released in them.
I have 6 Gunships to outfit (Counting the Crumb bomber). I have 4 on preorder from BBTS so I have to track down 7 more......this is going to be a pain and expensive. I really like it alot, once you see it you will never want to look at the Saga mini ones again.
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I remember in 2002 when I complained about the mini turrets how I was ridiculed by people for it, and I got the "you should just be happy they're making these for our gunships at all" speech... Kind of funny how times change and whatnot.
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I remember in 2002 when I complained about the mini turrets how I was ridiculed by people for it, and I got the "you should just be happy they're making these for our gunships at all" speech... Kind of funny how times change and whatnot.
Is there an implied "I told ya so" in there? Because I think the statute of limitations for "I told ya so" is only five years so you missed it by two. ;)
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I remember in 2002 when I complained about the mini turrets how I was ridiculed by people for it, and I got the "you should just be happy they're making these for our gunships at all" speech... Kind of funny how times change and whatnot.
JJ, If it's any consolation I was not on JD in 2002 so I did not ridicule you. :)
While the Gunship is out of scale I still like how it beefs up the Gunship size.
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I actually saw one of the gunpod battle packs at WM today, but I had already picked up a couple of the Evolutions sets, so I had to pass. Plus, I just couldn't bring myself to spend $25 for that pod, as nice as it does look. If by some miracle it is still there in a couple weeks, I might have to pick it up. It is hard to imagine spending $50 for those two pods though, even if the pilots are nice enough figures too.
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I hear ya B. I sold all of my old Pilots and Gunship pods a few weeks ago on ebay and raised about $89 to put towards the new ones. I actually need two sets to complete the gunship in terms of pilots. It take 4 now so it will work out well. Selling older stuff before it's obsolete has been working out pretty well for me. I used the same tactic on my Saga Red BD & Geo to help pay for the Target sets. As I mentioned earlier the glut in one shot makes it difficult for a lot collectors. I cannot wait to move so I can actully set this **** up to enjoy.
According to BBTS this is shipping for the rest of the year so you should be able to find it again. I have to buy everyone I see until I can arm all of my ships. (How sad does that sound?)
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According to BBTS this is shipping for the rest of the year so you should be able to find it again. I have to buy everyone I see until I can arm all of my ships. (How sad does that sound?)
I have about 8 or 9 Gunships myself so I have no clue what I'm going to do. :(
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According to BBTS this is shipping for the rest of the year so you should be able to find it again. I have to buy everyone I see until I can arm all of my ships. (How sad does that sound?)
I have about 8 or 9 Gunships myself so I have no clue what I'm going to do. :(
As long as they're all still in their boxes (and I know they are), you don't have to do thing. ;D
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But I'd like to keep the sealed gunpod BP's to go with all of them. ;)
Kidding...I do have 1 opened, but I'd like to eventually free all of them and have em all properly outfitted. pipedream
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I really hope that the trend of "complete repacks" is going to be an ongoing theme for the BPs from here on out. BPs are, by and large, the most poorly stocked assortment of SW toys on the shelves, mostly due to the huge bottleneck caused by the Jabba's Palace and B'omarr Monastery sets. While I think the Yavin Hangar set is one of the best things to come out of the Legacy lineup, for every one of those, we get two more Jabba's Palace sets per case, perpetuating the problem at retail. :P
I haven't even seen a Gunship pod at retail (a friend was able to get me one of them, and that was four states away from where I live), and I'm really wondering if the Gelagrub overpriced beast pack BP will show up here at all. As long as I can get one more pod to put on the other side of my 2002 AOTC Gunship, I'll be happy.
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I do have 1 opened, but I'd like to eventually free all of them and have em all properly outfitted.
I'm in the same boat, but I'm not even thinking about fitting the rest since they're one to a set.
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We got some proto images and among them was a look at the kit-bashed Luke Skywalker from the Resurgence of the Jedi battlepack!
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ProtoBPLuke1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1254380817,18157,)
Clicky image to check him out!
Finally, a super articulated farmboy Luke? I've got a pile of gear for him here like the garage tool, T-16 model, floppy hat, binoculars, hunting rifle, landspeeder, cloth poncho, a lightsaber, an unlit lightsaber...
Maybe the most heavily outfitted figure, ever. I may actually custom my Luke so he's got the "Flashback" figure's skirt piece. That way he can hold his binocs on his belt and stuff.
I wholely hope they re-use this sculpt, with a new skirt/belt/holster, to do a Death Star Escape Luke at some point. Yay! Wet and dry headsculpts included, please?
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This does look like a pretty nice figure, and I really hope it gets re-released on a basic card somewhere down the road. I'd like several, but don't want to buy a bunch of those battle packs to get them. After all the various Tatooine Lukes we've gotten over the years, none of them have really been the "definitive" version. This one looks like it may come the closest.
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I really hope that the trend of "complete repacks" is going to be an ongoing theme for the BPs from here on out. BPs are, by and large, the most poorly stocked assortment of SW toys on the shelves, mostly due to the huge bottleneck caused by the Jabba's Palace and B'omarr Monastery sets. While I think the Yavin Hangar set is one of the best things to come out of the Legacy lineup, for every one of those, we get two more Jabba's Palace sets per case, perpetuating the problem at retail. :P
Just out of curiosity, why do you favor BP's as straight re-packs going forward? I agree it is really tiresome wading through all the Jabba and B'Omarr swag, but it seems to me repack BP's would gather dust even worse. I have 0 interest in those as a collector. Especially with all the re-packed carded figures CW is releasing in their new waves, I just don't see where there would be much demand, even from parents or kids.
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I for one am looking to save funds were I can, and like the Legends line, and with the BPs going to a straight repack (with no repaints and new accessories) format I couldn't be happier.
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I concur. After this Jedi set, I am hopeful I'll not be inclined to buy another BP because of one figure, or one accessory... As it is, that Endor set stings. I don't want the Imp Officer that badly, just the Ewok, but I gotta buy Luke, that Officer, and a furball kite to get that furball.
Dumping one figure and increasing in cost by $5 of $6 sucks.
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I guess I'd just rather have 1 new figure in a BP than none at all. I'm actually starved for MORE product to buy.
Heck, even a repaint or new weapon would be worth it.
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How long have the new BP's been out now? Saw the CW one a week or so ago at TRU, but that's it for anything new. I'd at least like to get on Gunship properly outfitted before the holiday madness begins.
I guess I'd just rather have 1 new figure in a BP than none at all. I'm actually starved for MORE product to buy.
Heck, even a repaint or new weapon would be worth it.
You're in the minority on that one. I don't think any of us want to see that format especially with these inflated prices and the loss of value in these sets.
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Yeah, $8 a figure's bad... $25 for one new figure? THat sucks. Some packs are nice, but they're the minority these days.
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Yeah, $8 a figure's bad... $25 for one new figure? THat sucks. Some packs are nice, but they're the minority these days.
Got to agree with you. Some packs ARE nice - I think that Endor set is cool, mostly because of the Ewok and kite, and that SA Luke (which thank the heavens wasn't that horrible 2006 TSC Endor Luke). And some packs aren't THAT worth it either ... *cough* Kamino Conflict *cough*
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I'd just like to revisit my earlier statement that I'd definitely pick up the 327th Star Corps clone with Gelagrub. Courtesy of RS:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC/BattlePacks/GelagrubPatrol/NEW-251.jpg)
That sculpt is cheap looking. It looks like someone at Hasbro squatted down and pooped out a plastic blue turd.
There's no quality here for $23.99!
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I will be getting one of the Grubs but I have to agree this one should be part of the deluxe line not a Battle Pack. Unfortunately it's like Moblins in The Legend of Zelda, they cannot follow you into the cave. Since this is realistic it cannot go into the deluxe line with the rest of the Can-Cells rotting on a shelf near you! It's real therefore it's a battle pack. The value is not there and a pair of working pincers is not cutting it. The Trooper should have had some more weathered deco, they could have afforded it.
If you really think about this beast it is really pointless. How slow is this thing? The Clones can walk faster and there is no saddle/harness so if this bug can crawl up a wall or plant gravity will settle in.
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Well everything to me is overpriced with SW right now. I actually like the Gelagrub myself. I just don't know if I will plunk down the $25 right now to buy it. I just want some other items first. Well several others in fact. I kind of wonder if Hasbro will actually release that Luke from Resurgence of the Force battlepack. Didn't one of the Q&A's say recently that he does not sell all that well? Or was I not paying attention? They released him 5000 other times before in that outfit so you think they would but then again they never did with the VOTC Luke. I don't really remember the 30th anniversary one sitting around that much.
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They more or less said Jedi/Pilot Luke sells better than the farm boy version which I can believe. You know that pack is going to be one of the most heavily repacked Battle Packs ever. You would not believe how much repacking goes on in Joe. This is one ripe for repacks.
I am sure at some point he will be repacked. I have two of these sets on preorder I hope the 3P0 has the restraining bolt in production. It was shown at SDCC but not the press shots, that will make this a tolerable sets for repacks. I do not mind having these for a dedicated crew for the Falcon.
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I have to agree this one should be part of the deluxe line not a Battle Pack
I think the Battle Packs line is the proper place for it, I just think it's missing a Clone or two. If they had stashed a second Clone and an updated Bly in there, there'd be a lot less complaining. :P
If you really think about this beast it is really pointless. How slow is this thing?
In "the magic world of EU created by Jeff", the clones that were riding grubs were the ones that were complete screw ups. I imagine this guy probably ticked off Aayla Secura (maybe he spilled her coffee or dropped her breakfast tray or something) so she made him ditch his BARC and ride this dopey thing into battle... "Dang it Null-3457, you've ruined my day for the last time - you're riding Gary into battle!"
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"Dang it Null-3457, you've ruined my day for the last time - you're riding Gary into battle!"
Gotta love Gary :)
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Actually I'd have been happy with just an updated Cmdr. Bly in the set. That's one Commander that we've never seen improved. It would've been really neato had he come with a headsculpt ala his Clone Wars look, too (just not animated).
Equally cool would've been a Jello-ish plant. Kind of like the Wamp Rat pack-in, it'd be just a see-through plant like they have on the planet. A little ambiance for the leisurely ride on the gella-grub, Gary.
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Man, when you compare this set with teh Dewback set, there just ISN'T a comparison. We're getting much more for our $'s in the dewback set than this one. I feel a little hosed (and I haven't even bought one yet...).
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I'm being brave by defending this set, I guess, but c'mon - Jellie Belly crap-looking animal looks like an OK sculpt - most pictures of this creature look very digital and fake and mostly undetailed- the figure/beast is overall OK when compared to the pictures. The 2008 Ultimate Visual Guide (with Yoda on the cover) has a picture of this creature. It's very unappealing and very goofy for a Star Wars creature. But heck, I can use that yellow/orange clone. And, BONUS - the gellagrub's pincers snap together when you squeeeeeeze it! :D
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I don't think anyone's griping on the Grub, or the Clone... Both are fantastic. It's $25-ish for just a Gelagrub and a Clone that I think people are obviously irked about. The grub's not overly complex, not like the Dewback... THe Clone is the same.
It's the bang for the buck. Even the Ball Turrets came with 2 clones, so it's disappointing this set lacks at least another figure. The Grub, you really couldn't do much with it... It is what it is. You couldn't articulate it much more or anything. The only way to value-out the pack is an extra figure. An Evolutions Felucia Clone with a new head and helmet would've been the ideal, to make a new Commander Bly. That idea really makes me think the set is just not a good value. :-\
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Exactly, it's the price. That's the difference between me buying one set and many. No bang for the buck.
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I'd agree. $19.99 and I likely would've bought at least 2 Gelagrubs. At $25-ish, I'll stomach one and not really be pleased in doing so. I'm just glad there's nothing new besides the grub in there.
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So what's showing up already as far as the Grub and Endor sets? I found the Gunship set once, about a month ago, and haven't seen another since. And I haven't seen the other two yet, but both of them are available on eBay. Did these all come out a few weeks ago?
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The Gelagrub Patrol and Battle for Endor sets (along with a red box repack of the Geonosis Turret set) just started hitting retail (mostly TRU) in the past week or so, but they have been shipping for a few weeks from on-line shops.
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I literally just saw the Gunship Turrets last week, first time in Pittsburgh.
I'll be lucky to find anything else I think, anytime soon. The $25 pricehike has killed the battlepacks line I think. TONS of Jabba sets locally. Lots of the Falcon Training set as well. Not much else.
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Thanks Jeff.
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The Geonosis Assault battle pack is reshipping with the new Battle Packs. I saw it in the red packaging along with the Battle for Endor and Gelagrub Patrol packs. I think the CW Rishi Moon Outpost pack may be shipping with these, too.
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That's good news for those that didn't have much of a shot on these.
Too bad the Yaving IV Scramble set got screwed because there's another one I barely saw ever. The CW Jabba packs still linger on at most all retailers though.
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The Geonosis Assault battle pack is reshipping with the new Battle Packs.
Good to hear. This is the only battlepack I've never seen at retail so this will give me another stab.
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The Geonosis Assault battle pack is reshipping with the new Battle Packs. I saw it in the red packaging along with the Battle for Endor and Gelagrub Patrol packs. I think the CW Rishi Moon Outpost pack may be shipping with these, too.
Has ANYONE spotted these at any retail outlets other than a TRU?
We have had 0 market penetration here so far...
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I've seen the Geonosis Assault packs (with the gun bubble) at one of the Wal Mart stores in my area. There was only one and it was in the blue & white packaging. I purchased two of the same pack over a month ago at TRU. I have not seen the other battle packs in my area yet, but have not been looking too hard. Lots of Jabba ones and some others from earlier this year.
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I saw a Rishi pack at WM the other day so they are getting them in too. I got a case of new Battle Packs from BBTS last night. The case had: x1 Geo Bubble, x1 Endor Pack, x1 Grub and x1 Rishi
The Endor pack is by far the best one of the three new ones, even the revised Luke is nice. The Grub is really dumb, a pretty useless BP overall but the Clone is nice. He even has newly tooled blasters, but like many of the new vehicles/figures the deco is just not there. The Geo Bubble is a reissue but very nice and I am returning the Rishi pack for a Geo Bubble that I picked up. So I did not open that one.
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Jack, thanks for that report!
Now I have a reason to start hitting up the Walmarts again...starting tonight!
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Got the gelagrub set... The Clone's nice enough and has a ball-jointed torso which is nice and unexpected actually. The pauldron's awkward though.
I stand by my opinion on the updated Bly would've made this set a must-have whereas it's a rough one to stomach for me at this point. The grub's nice, but it's roto-cast (a relatively cheaper/cost-saving process compared to something complex like the Yavin IV sled), the Trooper's not entirely new, and this really just stings due to the beast's simplicity to me.
It's not great for the price. For $20 I probably would've tracked a second down at some point.
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I hope to get the Endor set soon! I never buy BPs since they're so pricy, but this is an exception! :D
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Found the Endor Battlepack tonight, and Gelagrub as well, at K-Mart... Not shocking to some as KM generally gets in stuff that's maybe tough to track down elsewhere, but the shocker was they're actually competitively priced on this line! Not much else of course, but $24+ was the cost on the battlepack, just over $25 after tax, so if you're hunting down these new ones I recommend stopping into your local
cluster**** K-Mart!
My neice just got a job at one. I wonder what the employee discount is? :-X
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Found the Endor Battlepack tonight, and Gelagrub as well, at K-Mart... Not shocking to some as KM generally gets in stuff that's maybe tough to track down elsewhere, but the shocker was they're actually competitively priced on this line! Not much else of course, but $24+ was the cost on the battlepack, just over $25 after tax, so if you're hunting down these new ones I recommend stopping into your local cluster**** K-Mart!
Now if Target would just join the party.
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The blue boxed BP's are in no short supply around here. Makes me a bit concerned about the new ones arriving. But then again, the holiday is upon us.
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Just a quick reminder -
#1 - This thread is for discussion of LEGACY COLLECTION Battle Packs, not for bitching about how much it sucks that you can't find Clone Wars Battle Packs. If you want to discuss the Clone Wars BPs, please go to the Clone Wars forum.
#2 - This thread is for discussion of LEGACY COLLECTION Battle Packs, not for bitching/discussion the way your significant other affects your collecting habits. If you want to rave/complain/mock your significant other and the effect they have on your ability to collect toys, please take it to the existing thread (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1329.0).
Thanks! :-*
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Can anyone who has the new Endor BP - is the Jedi Luke the new Legacy Collection Luke with a Poncho and Helmet or is it an older base-sculpt figure?
I'm hoping it's the new Jedi Luke with the extra Endor gear, but I don't think that will be the case...
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Can anyone who has the new Endor BP - is the Jedi Luke the new Legacy Collection Luke with a Poncho and Helmet or is it an older base-sculpt figure?
I'm hoping it's the new Jedi Luke with the extra Endor gear, but I don't think that will be the case...
It's partly the TAC Jedi Knight version with the TSC accessories, but he also has a new removable tunic and belt (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBPBattleforEndor.asp).
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I'm surprised the Endor Luke includes the unflared lightsaber. It makes sense since the accessories were from TSC, but a quick-lightsaber swap is in order. ;)
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I found the Gelagrub with 327th Clone today.
Two. Thumbs. Down.
Definitely not worth anything close to $25 plus tax.
The gelagrub is sculpted too small, and oddly shaped too. It's kinda long and skinny and stretched out but just too underscaled overall. This thing bombs bigtime. I had a spot all cleared out on my shelf next to my 327th squad, and now I'm decided I'm going to used a huge mound of sculpy and just do this guy myself. I know I can do better than Hasbro on this.
Just take a look at how bad Hasbro flopped on this one. First, a clone on gelagrub from the movie. Notice the overall size of the gelagrub head, and how far the clone is off the ground on it's back, how high he is:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/8/8c/060-Gelagrub.jpg)
Now, look at Hasbro's version. Notice how underscaled and smallish it is, and how the clone is practically on the ground:
(http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC/BattlePacks/GelagrubPatrol/header.jpg&usg=AFQjCNG1O0wWHOIDUOochWkam2WbJ9cr2Q)
Big fat "F" on this one.
And I'll let it go now due to the AT-ST high not having worn off yet. The chicken walker is so good, I'll let the gelagrub go.
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I found the Gelagrub with 327th Clone today.
Two. Thumbs. Down.
Definitely not worth anything close to $25 plus tax.
I gotta agree with you on your entire review. Though I love the oddball item in my collection, this thing just didn't cut it. The sculpt of the bug is decent, but as you noted it's tremendously underscaled and Hasbro failed to replicate the translucent, "glowing" look. Had this set included an additional trooper (or two) I could have forgiven the small size of the slug. But as it is, the slug takes up barely any space in the box and looks pathetic with the clone riding it.
Whereas the Geonosis Assault set is passable, (Yeah, I know some of you will disagree) the Gelagrub would have been best suited for the Deluxe assortment.
Also, in case any of you are on the fence with this or any current BPs, hit up your local K-Mart. Not only are they stocking the new "red box" wave, but they are also on sale for $20 a pop.
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I found the Gelagrub with 327th Clone today.
Two. Thumbs. Down.
Definitely not worth anything close to $25 plus tax.
How on Earth did H think this has a $25 value ??? This should have been in their overpriced Deluxe lineup.
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It's partly the TAC Jedi Knight version with the TSC accessories, but he also has a new removable tunic and belt (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBPBattleforEndor.asp).
Cool - thanks for the reply.
I took a look at the pictures on the link above and I gotta say - I may have to pick up another Legacy Jedi Luke and swap that figure in to make an "ultimate" Endor Gear Luke.
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Well, Hasbro has insinuated in their recent Q/A that the BP line will change format starting 2010. I hope the realistic-figure packs don't get too kid-friendly (like the upcoming TCW packs). I hope they still include a fresh variety of new figures instead of some version of Vader or Luke in every set. :P
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My wild fantasy is to see the Tantive IV re-released with new SA RFT's.
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I opened up the two Gelagrub Patrol BPs I got to add to my Felucia squad.
I know a lot of folks aren't too keen on this set, but I kinda like it. For me it's something "different" and it's also a creature I never thought we'd get. It's also cool that they put the ball jointed hips and soft-goods into the Star Corps figure. I'd love to see them update Commander Bly this way and release him as a basic figure. Come to think of it - they should have used the pelvis, legs and soft goods to update the Commander Deviss that just came out.
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Man, I just can't seem to find this set. I'm only looking for one though. Hopefully it will be around here soon. With Hasbro's penchant for reissuing things, my hopes are that if I don't catch it this time, that I will another.
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I'm hoping these new BPs hit around December. Are the Tatooine Ambush and Vader's Birth sets due out in 2010, or December '09?
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I opened up the Slug and Endor packs. Sure the slug pack is waaaay over priced, but I still like it. Wont get more than the one though. The Endor pack is really cool though.
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I finally got a Gelargub set through an online retailer for just over $20, plus shipping. Still overpriced. Not a fault of the retailer either, it's all Hasbro on this one for their MSRP.
I haven't taking it out of the package yet. Likely won't for some time either.
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Found the new BPs (Gelabrub, Geonosis Gun thingy...). I noticed that the Geonosis assault set was under the 'The Clone Wars' logo, instead of Legacy Collection.' :o Weird.
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Found the new BPs (Gelabrub, Geonosis Gun thingy...). I noticed that the Geonosis assault set was under the 'The Clone Wars' logo, instead of Legacy Collection.' :o Weird.
You must have come across an old one in the Blue/White packaging then. The ones shipping now are in the Red/White packaging and have been corrected with The Legacy Collection label. I grabbed 2 of the TCW ones because I wanted these bad boys for my gunships and it was an easy way to justify the expense.
I saw the Kamino conflict BP for the first time tonight at TRU...some pretty weak sculpts, IMO.
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I grabbed 2 of the TCW ones because I wanted these bad boys for my gunships and it was an easy way to justify the expense.
Do not feel bad at all. I bought 12 sets to outfit all of my gunships. Two of which I have no room to display.........
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I grabbed 2 of the TCW ones because I wanted these bad boys for my gunships and it was an easy way to justify the expense.
Do not feel bad at all. I bought 12 sets to outfit all of my gunships. Two of which I have no room to display.........
I used to be like you...