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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Clone Wars '08-'13 => Topic started by: Scott on October 15, 2011, 08:39 AM
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Republic Commando Boss
Aayla Secura
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Captain Rex
Wow...snoozefest ::)
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Oh...and I didn't think this was line doing that poorly to only have a handful of figures for next years...seems pretty strange :-[
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I was thinking they've shifted all gears to E1, for a little while, for the most part anyway.
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At least we get that Aayla again. I also wanna see the Sidious from last year thrown into a future wave at some point, being that he was a hard-to-find.
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I suppose a chunk of the new tooling budget went to Movie Heroes. That might be the price of having 3 lines.
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I don't get it. 19 figures in 2012? Seems strange.
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I think it is brilliant. Now when these figures never show up at a store 30 miles from my house I only have 19 figures to get (insert word or phrase of your choice here) by scalpers on eBay.
Much better than the 30 or 40 I would like to have.
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I don't get it. 19 figures in 2012? Seems strange.
I agree- we keep hearing that current media support drives sales of toys to kids and gift givers(whether it is a theatrical release or television show), and here is a television series aimed at kids at the mid-point of the run, and very little product to go with it.
I've been hunting aqua droid, ahsoka, serpias, and others for months, and I have the advantage that I know they were even released, and hit stores several (and sometimes many) times a week. What are the chances of a 9-10 year old actually getting some of these toys, or even knowing they were produced? I wouldn't want to see pegs overflowing with clone wars either, but if anything needed to be put to rest for a bit, it should have been legends/heroes. At least until CW had run its' course on television.
As long as I am taking the opportunity to rant- Lucasfilm could have done a way better job of keeping CW information going to Hasbro in a timely manner. Figure releases aimed at kids a year or more after the episode airs is pretty poor planning, but isn't necessarily the fault of the toy manufacturer. The timing of CW wasn't anything special, it could have been held back a year to synch the merchandise and the media.
(edit- found an Aqua droid this a.m. at Target!)
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I agree too, and don't think the 19 total for the year is right. Just misunderstood/misinformed maybe.
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I have to agree with you Jesse, I just don't see how they could skate by with only 5 more figures between April-December. That's beyond absurd...too much money left on the table there.
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Not to mention that, by season's premiere, E1 won't be the "big thing" anymore. CW will be back to the focus by that point I'd think.
The only thing is that manufacturing has to divert resources and stuff, and with 1 movie a year, it's difficult for them I'd imagine to not divert a lot, every year, to each movie, for the majority of the previous year (if that makes sense). I've seen some evidence of that of late, and it'll be interesting to see going forward how much remains focused on whatever the 3-D movie is that year. By E1's release next year they'll be working on E2's stuff, and so on and so forth.
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Yeah, it's TPM driving things right now. Which is fine. Imagine if they had dropped an full CW line on us at the same time - say 18-20 figures - we'd be complaining. I think. CW will come back hard next fall. I do hope they focus on some things that have gotten past us already - Night Sisters and so on - before we get too carried away by Season Four.
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Imagine if they'd dropped a full CW line on us in 2011. :P
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Zing!
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New images at Sandtroopers (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20120120/index.html).
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Jumping Jedi! Ahsoka in scuba gear was a surprise! I figured they'd skip that version of her.
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Glad to see they got Rex's new helmet right.
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Outstanding! Scuba Ahsoka looks exquisite...sort of surprised they bumped her up into this wave, but a welcome addition for sure.
Rex and Boss are ok, about what I expected.
Hard to tell exactly from the picture, but it does look like they did in fact improve the facial paint apps on Aayla. I know there are a lot of collectors like myself who are REALLY hoping this turns out to be true.
Kind of a bummer to think we won't see this wave until April though, I hope that gets advanced.
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Target.com has placeholders for this wave on their site:
Rex (http://www.target.com/p/Star-Wars-CHLD-CloneWar-fig-REX-S4/-/A-13916739)
Aayla (http://www.target.com/p/Star-Wars-CHLD-CloneWar-fig-AAYLA-SECURA/-/A-13916736)
Boss (http://www.target.com/p/Star-Wars-CHLD-CloneWar-fig-CMMNDO-BOSS/-/A-13916737)
Obi-Wan (http://www.target.com/p/Star-Wars-CHLD-CloneWar-fig-OBI-WAN/-/A-13916738)
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Hmmm, interesting. I don't see any dates on those pages anywhere, but I can't help but feel hopeful this might mean we see them before April.
Good find!
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I wonder if Target.com is going to start selling figures individually?
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Wow, just saw the new loose shots of these up at JTA, and boy do they SUCK.
Apparently "articulation" has fallen out of the Hasbro lexicon when it comes to this line. Swivel legs? No torso or wrist action? Bulky oversized helmets that are not even removable? Eesh.
And they didn't even fix Aayla's goofy face. :(
I've never felt LESS excited about this line, honestly. I barely even want to buy these things, much less pick up doubles for opening. I don't care about the characters, and to make it worse they're not even doing a competent job with the smal handful of figures they do pick to make.
Bleak year.
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Apparently "articulation" has fallen out of the Hasbro lexicon when it comes to this line. Swivel legs? No torso or wrist action? Bulky oversized helmets that are not even removable? Eesh.
Well, the line started with poor articulation like swivel legs and static arms so really the Clone Wars line is just heading back to its roots. Hasbro has continually repacked and reshipped their unarticulated figures (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Battle Droids, Ventress, etc.) so one could even argue that the lack of articulation has always been present in the line. It is a bummer to finally see the clones lose out on articulation, especially when "new" clones have almost always been repaints of existing sculpts.
Overall, the wave is pretty lackluster. Even if the clones had articulation I would not have been impressed. I don't plan to waste the time looking for the figures at retail. At this point I want to order the Wave 3 case online and just put the Clone Wars line behind me. I wouldn't mind if Hasbro just scrapped the Clone Wars line altogether, since the figures and the show are both tired and boring at this point.
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Why the need for a new Rex body and a less articulated one at that?
The only figure there I might get is Aayla because I missed her.
My interest in Clone Wars figures has been waning, it's almost gone now.
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Well, the line started with poor articulation like swivel legs and static arms so really the Clone Wars line is just heading back to its roots.
I agree with you, Greg. I was thinking about this last week, and I was reminded of it again last night while I was opening up those cancelled DVD packs. The original Obi-Wan figure has no ankle or knee articulation; and, for some reason, that didn't seem to bother me back in 2008. Why does it bother me now? Well, because Hasbro has spoiled me, and I've gladly let myself be spoiled. During 2010 and 2011, they put so much awesome articulation into this line that I came to expect it with everything. But times are a'changin' and I need to get used to it. Now, looking back, I see that this new "lack" of articulation is not unprecedented. I'm just going to let myself go back to enjoying these new figures in the same way that I enjoyed them in 2008.
I am the most excited for the new Obi-Wan figure, since he is one of my favorite characters on the show. And I picked up Aayla in late 2009/early 2010, so I will most likely pass on her repack. I would be all over the new Rex figure if it weren't for that oversized bucket, which is clearly out of proportion (the same can be said of the upcoming phase 2 Wolffe). And I have no interest in Boss, even if he had been made with super articulation.
I wouldn't mind if Hasbro just scrapped the Clone Wars line altogether...
Oh, banish the thought. :'(
...since the figures and the show are both tired and boring at this point.
The figures are a little disappointing this year, but I certainly think that the show just keeps getting better and better. I am completely on board for two (or three, or four, or five) more seasons, as long as they can maintain this quality.
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I was going to post this in the 2012 Wave 3 thread, but there does not appear to be one?
Some new carded shots up over at JTA this morning, apparently the 3rd 2012 wave is already hitting over in Manila or Singapore or whatever.
Random thoughts:
Do the stores in that country do a better job clearing out pegwarmers or what? Most stores around here couldn't even find a place to cram more CW figures on the pegs because of all that festering Wave 1 detritus.
When did they get Wave 2 over there? JTA is always on about this 2-4 week delay from figures arriving over there to them hitting here but that seems completely unpredictable to me.
Where are they slotting the new Fox, Maul, etc? Is this part of an unannounced fourth wave coming later this Fall?
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They get a lot less product, in general. It's not like here where there's a WM every 5 minutes with the same stuff, and often it's in smaller specialty shops and things from what I know.
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When did they get Wave 2 over there? JTA is always on about this 2-4 week delay from figures arriving over there to them hitting here but that seems completely unpredictable to me.
It's conjecture, but somewhat rooted in the realities of distribution.
Asia tends to get product first just by virtue of the geography in the production/distribution chain. Figures are produced in or around Hong Kong, and go into the global supply chain from there. It's a lot easier to get figures in the Phillipines or thereabouts earlier simply because HK is that much closer to them than the North American ports of entry like Seattle, the SF Bay or Los Angeles.
Once product makes it to the U.S., you've got several stops before anything makes it to a store shelf. First, U.S. Customs. Then it's onto a Hasbro distribution center. The next step in the chain is to get product from the Hasbro distribution center to the distribution centers of retailers, and this could involve multiple stops. And then it's eventually onto stores.
However, this is the ideal situation. It doesn't account for how one retailer may have existing inventory that they want to run through before they take more deliveries. Or potential shortages from the supply side. This is where the conjecture of "2 - 4 weeks" goes off the rails, since it's not accounting for the inventory issues that any one retailer may be dealing with in their supply line from Hasbro.
Online retail does offer something attractive: they do shorten up the supply chain from Hasbro to the customer by a couple of steps. But they also have a much more limited inventory than a major retailer.
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Well said Nick, that makes sense...I agree that the retailer situation is the big gray area in that equation. For example, I've seen the Blu-Ray figures at several Walmarts over the past few weeks, but nary a whiff of them at Target or TRU.
I haven't really seen any new stuff shipping at all recently outside of that Deleted scene stuff. It's a weird landscape right now.
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When did they get Wave 2 over there?
Here I am being an alarmist, but I hope that we don't see a quick "jump-over" of the second wave in favor of the third. Something similar to this happened to TVC's AOTC wave back in 2010.
Where are they slotting the new Fox, Maul, etc? Is this part of an unannounced fourth wave coming later this Fall?
That's been my assumption, since the first three waves have already been announced - yet they do not account for all 19 basic figures slated for 2012. And, of course, where in the world is General Krell? Will we have to wait until 2013 to buy him?
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Wave 2 spotted in Australia.
(http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/15/13/73/31/58676d10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=7760&u=15137331)
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It's weird...part of me feels sad and frustrated that these are going to take FOREVER to show up here because of all the garbage stuck on the pegs now...and then part of me just doesn't care anymore. This wave kinda blows, and having so few figures due this year just sucks all sense of urgency out of the very thought of hunting around for this stuff.
Way to kill collector interest, fellas.
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I like that they rereleased Aayla. I already have her, so skip. Just need Boss and new Rex. Isn't Obi-Wan different too?
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Does anyone know if Boss is a resculpt for the animated line or just a carded version of the exclusive pack from TRU and CC?
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Does anyone know if Boss is a resculpt for the animated line or just a carded version of the exclusive pack from TRU and CC?
It's an animated sculpt. Some people have expressed concerns about knee articulation, but I could care less.
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I like that they rereleased Aayla. I already have her, so skip. Just need Boss and new Rex. Isn't Obi-Wan different too?
Yes, Obi-Wan is different too...improved facial sculpt I believe.
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I like that they rereleased Aayla. I already have her, so skip. Just need Boss and new Rex. Isn't Obi-Wan different too?
Yes, Obi-Wan is different too...improved facial sculpt I believe.
And less articulation than previous versions.
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Brian's Toys has Wave 2 in stock... Might be worth ordering and avoiding the hastle looking around for stuff at B&M stores these days.
CW 2012 Wave 2 (http://www.brianstoys.com/Product/S12W3CWAVE2SETOF4/2012_Clone_Wars_Carded_Wave_2_(Set_of_4)_C-8_9.aspx)
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$50 for four figures? I don't think so.
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$50 for four figures? I don't think so.
co-sign. I'll just wait til they show up at stores...sometime in July or August, judging by the pace the current junk is moving. ::)
It's amazing how quickly Hasbro managed to kill any sense of enthusiasm I had for this line.
The most exciting part of Clone Wars collecting now is finding old stuff being clearanced at the discount stores. That's sad.
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I've found multiple figures from the "new" TCW line - including the apparently hard to find Cody - and I've passed them all up without a second thought. I have absolutely no regard for this line now; Hasbro effectively killed it. The only TCW item I'll pick up in the forseeable future is the "Maul Returns" BP.
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And less articulation than previous versions.
There is an easy way to correct that. Just replace his forearms with those of the 2011 Obi-Wan. Using a hair dryer, I did this last night and the results are phenomenal. Now, Obi-Wan has the wrist articulation that he deserves. ;)
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So...someone posted over at RS recently that there was a variant of the Boss figure in circulation now, the difference being some orange paint apps added to the backpack accessory. (as opposed to the standard all-white backpack)
Of course, now that I'm actually LOOKING for a Boss figure on the pegs again, I can't find one. I did confirm that the one that come with the Walmart 8-pack is the regular version.
What strikes me as odd is that there are NO examples of this variant to be found on eBay anywhere. So I can't help but wonder if this is just a lot of hooey, or if anyone else has seen such a thing, or can find any photographic proof thereof.
Thanks in advance!
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So...someone posted over at RS recently that there was a variant of the Boss figure in circulation now, the difference being some orange paint apps added to the backpack accessory. (as opposed to the standard all-white backpack)
Of course, now that I'm actually LOOKING for a Boss figure on the pegs again, I can't find one. I did confirm that the one that come with the Walmart 8-pack is the regular version.
What strikes me as odd is that there are NO examples of this variant to be found on eBay anywhere. So I can't help but wonder if this is just a lot of hooey, or if anyone else has seen such a thing, or can find any photographic proof thereof.
Thanks in advance!
Well, it took me 3 months, but I was finally able to confirm that this is in fact a legitimate variant. I think the reason I had so much trouble verifying this is because the variant is only showing up in overseas markets, the UK and Australia mainly from what I can piece together. It is very obvious from the few photos I have seen - definitely all new bright orange paint apps on the backpack.
I was able to snag one just this evening from a seller in the UK for about $23 shipped. Well worth it, IMO as there are not that many true variants in this line and coming at the end I suspect I lot of people will miss this one.
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Thanks for the heads-up! I just scored one of these as well.
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I also picked one up. It is an interesting variant, and one that I deemed different enough to add to my collection. Thanks for posting about it McMetal!
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My pleasure, glad you guys were interested as well. I can't take credit for the original discovery though, it was originally posted in the RS TCW forums months back, so I was just doing my due diligence. :)
I should go ahead and compile a list of all the ones I know about...the Turbo Tank Gunner, IG-86, the 2012 Captain Rex(es), etc.
Even the new Cody has some minor deco changes from the 2012 version, although not very noticeable.
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My pleasure, glad you guys were interested as well. I can't take credit for the original discovery though, it was originally posted in the RS TCW forums months back, so I was just doing my due diligence. :)
I should go ahead and compile a list of all the ones I know about...the Turbo Tank Gunner, IG-86, the 2012 Captain Rex(es), etc.
Even the new Cody has some minor deco changes from the 2012 version, although not very noticeable.
I'd be interested in seeing that list if you make one. Thanks!
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the 2012 Captain Rex(es)
What's the variant on Captain Rex? Is it a significant paint difference like the Boss figure, or just a packaging variation?
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Some paint deco changes and apparently a larger pauldron. (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11450) More details at the link.
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Some paint deco changes and apparently a larger pauldron. (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11450) More details at the link.
Interesting. I'll have to keep my eyes open for the brown line version, but unlike the Boss figure I don't plan to spend extra on ebay for it.
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Actually, there are no changes to the pauldron. Depending on how it is placed on the neck post (side to side), it can look larger or small.
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Well, I got my package from the UK today and surprise, surprise, the seller sent me the wrong $#%^ Boss. I got the regular old white backpack version. >:(
I contacted the seller but am probably going to have to file some kind of claim because I fully expect he will ask me to foot the bill for the return postage which is completely asinine given the fact that the screw-up is all their fault.
This sucks!
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Picked up a second Boss with orange backpack from the UK off of ebay yesterday, hopefully the seller sends the right one this time. I did verify before paying, so chances are good I think.
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Did you get a refund on the previous one?
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He offered to refund the cost of the item minus shipping and let me keep the figure, or have me ship it back at my own expense and he would give me a full refund. Which I still maintain is unfair because it obligates the buyer to shell out additional $$$ over an issue which was in no way my fault. If I had opened a case and made a big stink about it I might have gotten some traction, but it wasn't worth the headache to me. I just kept the figure and took the partial refund, I guess I can sell or trade it off to try and recoup some of the lost dollars.
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Got my variant Boss yesterday...damn, he is sweet. Probably the last Clone Wars figure I will ever buy that I didn't already have.