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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Shadows of the Dark Side => Topic started by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 4, 2009, 12:16 PM
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This is looking pretty good an more in scale with accurate details. I am digging the gunner cockpit, perfect for exploding in Daks face. I also like the molded detail on the canopy.
http://www.coreplanets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3187&page=8
(You have to scroll down a bit)
(I hope that will be a blue A-Wing.)
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I have asked for new Snowspeeder in scale for years from Hasbro, and they're finally doing it. I'm almost ready to cry. It's kind of my Wilrow Hood, if he were a vehicle I guess. :P
I remember people saying way back when how the old one was fine, how it was the right scale, blah blah blah... No. ;D
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I have asked for new Snowspeeder in scale for years from Hasbro, and they're finally doing it. I'm almost ready to cry. It's kind of my Wilrow Hood, if he were a vehicle I guess. :P
I remember people saying way back when how the old one was fine, how it was the right scale, blah blah blah... No. ;D
I was one who was satisfied with the old one knowing it was out of scale. I welcome any new OT vehicle especially when it's more accurate. The detail were nice on the old one but this is sharper. I just sold two of my 3 Snowspeeders yesterday, I really have no regrets now!
I may get an extra and modify it to fit in the electronics from the POTF2 one. I really love the sounds on that.
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This is looking pretty good an more in scale with accurate details. I am digging the gunner cockpit, perfect for exploding in Daks face. I also like the molded detail on the canopy.
http://www.coreplanets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3187&page=8
(You have to scroll down a bit)
(I hope that will be a blue A-Wing.)
Is that a 3.75" scaled swamp speeder and a droid gunship on that page too?
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Yep. 8)
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I'm stocked about the Snowspeeder, and Droid Gunship. PLus there are pics out there of the new Cloud Car!
I never really liked the Swamp Speeder. I'll prolly get one to have it, but it's not high on my list of vehicles.
Hopefully NOW since the smaller Snowspeeder is being made, it will mean we are that much closer to getting a properly scaled AT-AT!
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I'm stocked about the Snowspeeder, and Droid Gunship. PLus there are pics out there of the new Cloud Car!
I never really liked the Swamp Speeder. I'll prolly get one to have it, but it's not high on my list of vehicles.
I am not feeling that Swampspeeder or Droid Gunship. Something about them screams running out of ships to make, the Swampspeeder seems kind of useless. I will have to see the paint masters of them first before I decide. I would expect these two to show up in an episode this season. If the Droid Gunship is $70 they can kiss my ass because right now it looks like part of an incomplete Star Trek Enterprise model.
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Ya I'm kinda wondering what they'll be charging for these new vehicles. They don't really look like "starfighter asst" type $25 ships.
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Like Jesse, this is one of my most wanted re-dos from the OT ships, so I really hope it does pan out. Like it has been said, I believe Hasbro confirmed as such - but I was just waiting to hear that it got "tabled" like the Bespin Han and new Taun Taun (both of which would have been perfect for ESB's 30th Anniversary). Aside from the Falcon, this was pretty much my favorite ship from my childhood to now (and those were basically the only ones I had too), so I'll be happy to pick up a few if it turns out nice and spiffy next year. I'm also wondering if these would be "starfighter assortment" vehicles or not. It would be nice to see something OT besides Vader's TIE in that assortment, but it would be surprising too.
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When was the last time this was considered a rumor? Hasbro stated plain as day (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4111) that they were working on a Snowspeeder as early as September of '08.
Now that that's out of the way? It's very good to finally see it! But the one detail that I'm curious to see isn't shown at all. I want to see the cockpit. Because that was easily the worst part of the vintage snowspeeder. The pilot was barely kept in his seat because there was way too much room for the figure to flop around. The gunner position was fine. I'm really hoping that this version will address that glaring problem that the vintage snowspeeder had.
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When was the last time this was considered a rumor? Hasbro stated plain as day (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4111) that they were working on a Snowspeeder as early as September of '08.
Until I see pics, everything is a rumour to me when Hasbro says they're "working on it".
Now that that's out of the way? I'm looking forward to seeing it as well.
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Very excited to see the Snowspeeder. Like Jesse, this has been a big want for me for a long time. Kudos on the Droid Gunship, too. Swamp speeder - meh.
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I remember the first time I brought this up to Hasbro actually a long time ago, the designer I spoke with at the time was surprised to learn the original was oversized, and it didn't seem real positive for an upgrade. Oh how the times have a changed! ;D I'm simply giddy looking at that test shot.
I'm anxious to see repaints already. I'll buy any/every possible repaint they'd throw from the films. I'm wondering if they've left any easy options to do versions missing armor panels as some of the models did (the POTF2 SS actually was a version of one missing some armor plating). I'm not counting on it, but it'd be super neat.
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We've got a much larger, and more detailed gallery of the prototypes posted on our front page... Feel free to check them out:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/10Hasbro_SnowspeederProto4Loose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1260001144,50282,)
Clicky to check it out.
The Snowspeeder is drool-worthy, even in neon green colors. It reminds me of the Mellow Yellow car in Days of Thunder (What a horrid movie).
I like it though, and can't wait to see it in armored grey. The ribbed padding of the cockpit ceiling is a nice touch. Definite detailing there. I'm real curious to see the rear gun, and any other details.
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I have mixed feeling about this since I always felt that the only thing wrong with the old one was the seat, despite the fact that it is slightly over-scaled.
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I'm less excited about this than I thought I would be. It's nice to havce larger scale, but I already have 3-4 smaller scale that are now obsolete. Also doesn't look like they did much other than making it larger. How about bringing back the electronic lights and sounds from the vintage version if you're going to redo it? I'm sure 5 years from now there will be a larger size, electronic version, so that everyone can buy yet another version. :P
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Don't you mean smaller? This appears to be a smaller, more to scale version.
Whoops, wrong post to edit.
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Yeah, this is definitely smaller and more to-scale. Not larger. Believe me too, it's more than "slightly" overscale. It's pretty significant. The right size should have it not be much larger than the cockpit of a Y-Wing (done to scale, of course). It's a tiny vehicle by SW standards.
Much like the AT-ST, this was one of the most out of whack vehicles visually to me, that was very doable by Hasbro. Of course it's no Sith Infiltrator, but that wasn't going to happen "larger" anyway I guess.
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I had a bit more time this morning to look at the Snowspeeder's cockpit detailing and it's pretty clear the front seat is very "upright", as is the rear. The gunner's controls have sticks/grips which will be interesting to see how hard it is to get a figure in there and holding them, haha.
I can't wait to outfit Rogues with this new speeder though. I'm real desperate for Snowspeeder Pilots now. Wedge, Dak, etc. All figures I really want to see at this point, thanks to this item.... not that I didn't want them before anyway.
It'd be extra great if this had a little clear stand so you could display it hovering. I'm not counting on that one though. :-X Maybe with the Speederbike I've been begging to get shrunk, since they at least seemed sort of receptive to the idea?
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Wonder if this will be an exclusive with one of the pilots included (or even not an exclusive)?
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I'm stocked about the Snowspeeder...
Now let's hope the store shelves are ;)
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This looks good. I've got the Wal Mart and Target exclusive snowspeeders released over the past several years, but will certainly get this more accurate tooling. I like the detailed direction Hasbro is going with the Star Wars items 8)
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I'm stocked about the Snowspeeder, and Droid Gunship. PLus there are pics out there of the new Cloud Car!
I never really liked the Swamp Speeder. I'll prolly get one to have it, but it's not high on my list of vehicles.
I am not feeling that Swampspeeder or Droid Gunship. Something about them screams running out of ships to make, the Swampspeeder seems kind of useless. I will have to see the paint masters of them first before I decide. I would expect these two to show up in an episode this season. If the Droid Gunship is $70 they can kiss my ass because right now it looks like part of an incomplete Star Trek Enterprise model.
OOh, you know, you're right. Yeah, if the Droid Gunship is $70 I'm not buying. Hell, anythign over $50 and I'm likely NOT to purchase. This looks like a $30 ship to me. Without much in the way of complicated joints (like the Octuptarra droid) it's a pretty simple design. And wow, I hadn't looked at it your way Jack, but yeah, it does kinda remind you of something from Trek.
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Yeah, this one will sink or swim dependeing on the paint. It looks like the black panel to the left of the cockpit is removable, maybe revealing battle damage.
I cant believe that the long guns still don't sit snuggly in place. I always hated that on the original.
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I think the new Snowspeeder's going to do well... the number of speeder pilots we've gotten is going to help it along some I think, from the collector world.
The vehicle's a VAST improvement over the vintage mold too... smaller, as it should be (I hated having a speeder as big as a starfighter), proper seating, cockpit details... Lots of better sculpting details too. I'm down for probably 3. I haven't kept a single speeder for eons now, so this is a thing of beauty to me. I'm hoping that, like the last A-Wing, it comes out like a movie prop more than a toy. :)
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Like I said in the Cloud Car thread, I have not purchased a vehicle in a long time. I will buy this snowspeeder and the Cloud Car.
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I was just thinking of the variant paint aps of Snowspeeders in the movies... If this is a fairly generic grey with red stripes or grey with dark grey stripes, I'm down for 3 I think. I need to now peruse some model images to see just how many there are. I'm sure of 3 (the 3rd being with the exposed innards/removed armor plating), not so sure on more though.
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I'm actually also not very excited with this sculpt. I didn't even like the Bespin vehicle either - I dunno why. Both sculpts look somewhat boring to me. :(
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The new snowspeeder should do very well since it hasn't had a general (non exclusive release) in more than 10 years.
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Don't hate me, but I'd like to see Hasbro get creative with this mold down the line. Different paintjobs to make it a sandspeeder or junglespeeder could add lots of life to the mold.
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The thing is, to me anyway, the "snowspeeder" is really just an airspeeder... They look the same everywhere, more or less.
There's variants in the EU that have them with an open cockpit and even a small quad-laser mounted on the rear, but other than deco changing for some attempt at camo I really don't think they'd change much for environmental differences.
I'm all for deco variations though. I'd like to see at least 3 movie decoes first then maybe an EU one. So long as the movie ones get out there.
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The thing is, to me anyway, the "snowspeeder" is really just an airspeeder...
I agree. When Han asks if the speeders are ready, doesn't the Echo Base guy basically say something like "we're having trouble adapting them to the cold"? I always assumed that they were just regular speeders that were fitted somehow for the cold/snow. I just figured they were called "snowspeeder" since it was easier to market the toy that way. :D
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The thing is, to me anyway, the "snowspeeder" is really just an airspeeder...
I agree. When Han asks if the speeders are ready, doesn't the Echo Base guy basically say something like "we're having trouble adapting them to the cold"? I always assumed that they were just regular speeders that were fitted somehow for the cold/snow. I just figured they were called "snowspeeder" since it was easier to market the toy that way. :D
I've seen the snowspeeder referred to as an armored airspeeder. I don't know about marketing, as the "snowtrooper" was originally "Storm Trooper in Hoth Battle Gear." I guess it doesn't really matter, but it would be cool to see some EU decos on this new toy.
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If we don't get EU I'll likely whip some up of my own... I like crossing WW2 flare over with SW designs a lot, so I could see one get some teeth and eyes, or camo on top and blue on bottom type deco for combat on another planet somewhere.
Also I wanted to restate what others have seen/noticed with it, that the Speeder DOES appear to have a removable armor piece on the right side, which really indicates (to me) that either this model will be the grey with red markings and possibly a removable armor panel featuring the red "innards" of it exposed, or that it's at least been designed to double someday as that deco.
There's a pretty clear tab for inserting your fingernail to remove the panel, it's the right (appropriate) side... Makes total sense for Hasbro to milk this thing be it in the mid-size or exclusive range of milking. Would you buy this with Wedge in his Hoth Speeder gear? I probably would buy this thing with EU pilots and film ones. I'd buy it with a Hoth Pilot Dash Rendar even, or Keyan Farlander.
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I'd buy it in any case, but I hope to see Wedge and Dack next year.
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Dack especially... To me he's a pretty perfect generic Hoth Pilot.
I'd like to see them do a similarly generic Yavin IV Reb Pilot with the blue emblems and black lenses on a clean helmet. I'm not counting on it but it'd be THE pilot I'd buy up 20 or more of.
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New Snowspeeder Sweet ;D long overdue vehicle, also Wedge and Dack are long overdue. I am convince that Dack will be in the next ESB wave.
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I hope to see Luke and Dack in the new snowspeeder, a Luke like the hoth pilot from esb wave with helmet but without skullcap to complete the variants of this action figure.
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Well, this might be a bit of a downer if accurate, but I did some measuring based on the photos. The one with the speeder upright against the wall and sheet of paper has a tape measure showing 27.5 cm long (which converts to 10.8 inches). Another photo shows the width of the vehicle where the laser cannons separate from the body of the vehicle as being about 18 cm (about 7 in). I went and measured the vintage mold and found it to be about a half inch longer lengthwise and about 3/4 to an inch wider. So apparently the changes are more functional and cosmetic as opposed to scalewise.
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Well, this might be a bit of a downer if accurate, but I did some measuring based on the photos. The one with the speeder upright against the wall and sheet of paper has a tape measure showing 27.5 cm long (which converts to 10.8 inches). Another photo shows the width of the vehicle where the laser cannons separate from the body of the vehicle as being about 18 cm (about 7 in). I went and measured the vintage mold and found it to be about a half inch longer lengthwise and about 3/4 to an inch wider. So apparently the changes are more functional and cosmetic as opposed to scalewise.
I've read some posts here from people that disagree with me, but as far as the scale issue goes figure:vehicle, the original snowspeeder is not the problem, look at the video here, at the 3:08 mark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhpS69eAXrU). The problem is the AT-AT. That's when the snowspeeder looks bad, when you put it next to the walker. A snowspeeder pilot next to the snowspeeder we already have looks pretty good scalewise.
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For the record, I disagree with you Dressel.
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For the record, I disagree with you Dressel.
Oh I know it, and don't think for a moment that I'm not grateful.
If I found you agreeing with me on any kind of regular basis, I'd be forced to look in the mirror and make some changes.
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Check the blueprints of the lifesize prop and compare. The original SS is WAY oversized. It's a dinky craft, and that toy's anything but. I'm not seeing anything wrong with this one in terms of scale. It's definitely smaller just based ont he cockpit size.
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I really hope so, but those aforementioned measurements don't look good. They are within a half inch the same in 2 directions. But the cockpit looks much better, and I'm sure the deco will be great.
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I think the cockpit was really the biggest sticking point on the vintage snowspeeder. The snowspeeder in TESB looks cramped for the pilot and gunner, but on the toy the pilot would be flopping around all over the place. This new model seems to deal with that issue well.
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Looks like this ship has been confirmed (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2009/12/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-21.html) for the mid-size vehicle line this Fall...
We can confirm that both the new Snowspeeder and a new Cloud Car will be in the line. Stay tuned for official looks at this at Toy Fair.
Hopefully that doesn't change - it'll be nice to get it at the $22-25 price and not as some over-priced $60 TRU exclusive or something. ::)
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I think it's gonna happen for the mid-size because of repainting on that speeder. That thing has a few paintjobs available from the film, and I think folks will cave on those. Repaintability is a positive thing for Hasbro for sure, so I think that bodes well for them.
Wasn't there a blue concept Cloud Car? Maybe I'm misremembering that... I'd buy that along with a movie-deco.
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Excited for this and the Cloud Car. I will be buying a couple speeders for sure.
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So happy this is officially confirmed for next year, and not another "push back" that we've seen with other nice OT rumors/in progress stuff. I'm definitely down for at least a couple, really looking forward to it. I guess I'm not surprised to hear it, but it stinks that pretty much everything is going to be held off until Fall of next year. It is going to be a slow first half of the year again, especially if I cut back on CW stuff like I hope/intend to.
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Wasn't there a blue concept Cloud Car? Maybe I'm misremembering that... I'd buy that along with a movie-deco.
Yes, there was. It was in a McQuarrie production painting for ESB. The painting is really rather cool, showing the blue cloud car in the forground, viewed from slightly behind, with a Thranta flying creature approaching it. The scene is set over the Cloud City highrises with a storm cloud backdrop. It is in the "Illustrated Star Wars Universe" book. The blue cloud car has some design differences over the final version, but looks close enough. Blue would be a cool color for that vehicle 8)
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More new Snowspeeder images...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Proto_NewSnowspeeder005_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1262414509,7487,)
Clicky to check it out!
The images include some with the armor off of the right section showing the exposed electronics underneath. Pretty slick looking. The details on these are also looking quite nice...
No word on exactly what the stringy accessory is seen in some of the pictures, or how it may or may not interact with the vehicle. :-X
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By the way, I like the slick little extra they seem to have added to hide the towcable's cord in the bottom rear of the vehicle. At least that's my assumption, and it's pretty neat if that's its purpose.
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Looks like the blasters have 2 options, much like the recent AT-ST: a film accurate version, and a firing version. I like the angle of the new pics too. Still, I'm a little worried about the measurement tape showing about the same ship length though.
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I still miss the light up guns the vintage one had. So this one is still the same size as before.
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The question is, will it be a great addition, or the start of a new fleet? I'll be a little bummed if it's significantly smaller than the original, but not hart broken.
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"significantly smaller" is a pretty relative term. I think it'll be less wide, more than it will be less long... if that makes any sense.
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Yeah, you're right. Significantly smaller. I forgot the community I'm a part of here. One man's "slight" is another's "completely ruined."
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BTW did you just get back from something? You were bumping stuff left and right there. :) I assumed you've been outta town.
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Kind of. I've had a lot going on.
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JediNews (http://www.jedinews.co.uk/default.aspx) has great boxed and loose shots for Luke's Snowspeeder shown at UK Toy Fair
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Guess that definatively answers the question about packaging for the movie vehicles... though it's interesting to note there is no "Legacy Collection" type name on the box - just "Star Wars".
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Looking at it, and the cockpit seating and things, it really does look smaller to me. At the very least it's looking shorter, as the figure's legs should be right up in the front of the vehicle by that picture I'm guessing. Their head placement with the cockpit windows seems accurate now as well... The guns protrude farther out than the originals do, in comparison to the body of the vehicle itself.
I'm going to say this is indeed looking smaller than the original, but I wouldn't say it's drastic like say the difference between the original and the concept Speeder is.
Love the lettering details on it with the warnings and things. A nice detail.
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I like that it;s just called Star Wars. All the little subtitles always seem kind of pretentious.
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Like Jesse said, I hope that this is a little smaller (and more accurate) than the previous version - but it looks great to me. Really excited to be getting an all-new version this year, one of my most anticipated items really for 2010. I didn't have a lot of vehicles when I was a kid, but the Falcon and Snowspeeder were two "hand me downs" from my cousins - and they both got a lot of play. I have to admit too, that packaging is kind of growing on me too. I also like that they dropped the "sub line name" and it is just "Star Wars" now.
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This doesn't look much smaller than the last one...the figs are still laying down in the cockpit...
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Actually the seat's pretty verticle compared to the last one... The last one really was laying almost horizontal, but that's a much sharper incline by comparison Mike.
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Looking forward to picking up one of these. I wonder if that loose image is the final product though, seems a little light on the deco, could use some dirt and grime or blast damage. All the snowspeeders I remember from the movie were pretty worn looking.
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Looks great! Really looking forward to this.
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9 chances out of 10, the loose image isn't the final product. These shows seem to often have prototypes and things, more than final products. I wouldn't expect it to have a much different paintjob though considering the minimalist approach to decoes seems to be the way Hasbro's rolling with their line these days.
I like the red detailing, but there's a lot of sculpted details not being brought out with deco... I love that Hasbro caught all the little warnings and things, the ZZ on the cockpit frame, etc. I'm curious to see how those look up close, and if they're an actual text from Hasbro's creative folks or whatnot?
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I would buy snowspeeder and twin pod cloud car, hope these vehicles come with pilots an otc bespin cloud car pilot and a Lc snowspeeder Luke, if Dack was included better.
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These are going to be Mid-size vehicle assortment items Epic, so I wouldn't count on pack-in pilots and things. Maybe there will be an exclusive release of them someday? But for now it appears these are basic ships for the mid-size vehicle line.
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I'm cool with neither coming with pilots. They're not hard to track down and fairly cheap to obtain. Besides not including them keeps the price of these vehicles down and keeps us from having duplicates we might not want. Again, if you want/need a duplicate pilot they are aplenty.
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Both vehicles look good to me. I will buy one of each.
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The new Snowspeeder looks excellent. Much better sculpting all around than the old versions. The shape and canopy both look more accurate. It will be a fun fall season with this and the Cloud Car 8)
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I just hope the cannons stay on these new ones! No it looks good. It will be tempting to buy 2. Although that idea might change when I see the actual price for the AT-AT ;D
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I don't know if this looks smaller either. But, I love the fact that the seat has been corrected.
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I will buy the snowspeeder and bespin twin pod cloud car, both are in an evolving line of hasbro products. The inside of the cockpit and canopy looks movie accurate and seems they have redocorated it with sculpted controls rather than stickers.
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This offering begs the obvious question: how long until we get an exclusive Rogue 3 version offered with Wedge? Because Hasbro seems committed to only offering Wedge Antilles as a pack-in figure (with an exclusive)and not as a carded basic figure.
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This offering begs the obvious question: how long until we get an exclusive Rogue 3 version offered with Wedge? Because Hasbro seems committed to only offering Wedge Antilles as a pack-in figure (with an exclusive)and not as a carded basic figure.
Considering all they would need to do for the Wedge is sculpt a new head for the Wes Jansen/Kesin Ommis body - and we've already gotten Wedge's gunner, I agree Nick - this seems like a no-brainer.
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But there's probably no love for Wedge on a basic figure card.
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Aftre seeing the Toyfair pics of this, I'm dissapinted by the paintjob. Hell, the POTF2 version is feels more worn and torn than this one. It looks fresh off the assembly line.
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Aftre seeing the Toyfair pics of this
Wish there were pics in these threads. I'm on dial-up here at home and I'm burning daylight having to pull up other sites. Yes I'm still living in the 90's.
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Aftre seeing the Toyfair pics of this, I'm dissapinted by the paintjob. Hell, the POTF2 version is feels more worn and torn than this one. It looks fresh off the assembly line.
I'm with ya there. It's a great sculpt, but so much of the details seems lost by the lack of paint to bring them out more.
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I gotta say I loved it... Paintjob is in the eye of the beholder too. I agree it's clean looking, but that's par for the course right now in the line I'm afraid. The AT-AT didnt' have a lot of wash on it either. What this vehicle DID have though, are the details that most of us aren't capable of recreating in such intricacy.
Flip through our Hasbro galleries to see the aurabesh lettering on the hull, and other details on it.
Hasbro specifically said this ship is of course an all-new sculpt, and that it is indeed sculpted "smaller and to-scale" during their presentation. It's got so much uber detailing in the sculpting though, from the quilted headliner to the controls to the harppon, that I think a lot of folks will get past the lack of weathering.
It's an issue, but so minor on my list after you check out what they DID do. They were very nice about opening the cockpit for us for pictures too. Check out the gallery because there's a lot of coolness there.
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Vint_Speedergraphics2_TN.jpg)
BTW I'm kind of glad I took a closer look at the graphics on the Rebel Speeder... Check out the front page www.JediDefender.com to see what I mean, but suffice to say Hasbro snuck us another Easter egg or two (or more ;) ).
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Wish there were pics in these threads. I'm on dial-up here at home and I'm burning daylight having to pull up other sites.
We kept our pictures big for the extra detail, so posting them in the threads will throw off the forum/tables for most people (causing side-scrolling). Just buy the damn high-speed internet and get over it already... ::)
BTW I'm kind of glad I took a closer look at the graphics on the Rebel Speeder...
Yeah, that pic you had was great. I'm glad you were able to decipher it - cool easter egg there. :)
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My friend calls HS Internet the "porn pipe", but yeah it's worth it for other stuff too. :)
I couldn't fathom trying to deal with a ton o pics on dial-up anymore, especially even just the way graphics are on sites anymore. That's gotta be some slow-going iFett, so definitely a good thing to upgrade to if you can.
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I usually do all my main surfing at work (porn not included) and my ol dial up at home actually isn't too shabby, but ya...I need to upgrade someday. It's cheap though and I have lots of toys to buy. ;) Anywhooo...
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But there's probably no love for Wedge on a basic figure card.
Yeah, and I really don't understand why? If they can release Dack/Dak on a vinty card surely Wedge would sell as well if not a bit better. Oh well. Whatever. I am used to it by now.
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Wedge'll do good I think on a card someday, but I think Dak really has the army builder thing going on too... I've wanted generic Hoth and regular Reb pilots for ages. I hope he leads to a blue-emblem "generic" X-WInger someday.
I can't wait to outfit my Hoth shelf with lots of Dak though, and that speeder's gonna probably cost me a bit this year. It's got one flaw, the harpoon, but otherwise I'm pretty content and I'm thinking I'm going to just whip up harpoon guns on my own or whatnot.
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Forgive me if this has already been address, but I obviously missed it - Is this a totally new rescaled mold, or is this the old mold with enhancements/improvements?
Also, is the harpoon gun replaceable like the At-St chin gun?
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The mold is 100% new and smaller (It's sized to, I believe, 1:6 scale movie models as the base comparison). Check out the pictures in our gallery Anton, there's nothing old on it.
I'm not 100% sure on the harpoon being interchangeable as I didn't get much of an opportunity to ask questions since my job was doing other stuff and it was tough to get in there to pick the brains of the Hasbro folks because other people were sort of hoarding around them the majority of time, but I'm pretty sure the Harpoon's NOT replaceable.
That was my only disappointment as it's clearly out of whack there. I could be wrong on the Harpoon though.
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I'm pretty sure the Harpoon's NOT replaceable.
...I could be wrong on the Harpoon though.
Yep, you're wrong. (too much time oogling the inside to notice the back end, eh? :P)
Feature #2 on the back of the box (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2010/Hasbro_Star_Wars/223.JPG) - "Interchangable harpoon firing launcher and non-firing harpoon gun."
One for the kiddies, one for us, just like the AT-ST chin gun. Same goes for the front guns - should be one set that shoots missiles and one set that doesn't.
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I'm pretty sure the Harpoon's NOT replaceable.
...I could be wrong on the Harpoon though.
Yep, you're wrong. (too much time oogling the inside to notice the back end, eh? :P)
Feature #2 on the back of the box (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2010/Hasbro_Star_Wars/223.JPG) - "Interchangable harpoon firing launcher and non-firing harpoon gun."
One for the kiddies, one for us, just like the AT-ST chin gun. Same goes for the front guns - should be one set that shoots missiles and one set that doesn't.
Hopefully the AT-AT has this feature too. I wonder if this snowspeeder will also included the panel cover to the exposed side. The earlier first shots showed this to be the case. I will have to study the back panel more......
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First let me say thank god to that Harpoon being interchangeable. Thanks Jeff! You made my night. :P
The panel for the exposed side is definitely included JACK. I think this was for a future repaint as one specific Speeder model had exposed right armor. I forget if it's Wedge's, Zev's or what. There's a full armored one with grey markings (darker grey), a full armored with red, and an open-armored one with red. Not sure if there's other deco variants of the models but I do know those 3 existed.
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Bummer (kind of) and cool. Thanks for the conformations guys.
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This probably sounds crazy, but I wish they'd put some seat belts in. Play-wise it would probably have been a pain in the ass, but I think on the detail side, it would have looked cool.
I would have loved if they put some lights or sounds in it, I'm still pressing those buttons on the falcon... although at that price point, I know it's out of the question.
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This probably sounds crazy, but I wish they'd put some seat belts in. Play-wise it would probably have been a pain in the ass, but I think on the detail side, it would have looked cool.
I would have loved if they put some lights or sounds in it, I'm still pressing those buttons on the falcon... although at that price point, I know it's out of the question.
Not at all. Seat belts would have looked great here. If I had to choose between the extra panel and seat belts I still go the panel for army building purposes. When they rerelease this down the road that will be the next upgrade to get you to buy it again. ;)
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I think you're probably right! If the upgrades are good it's hard to resist sometimes.
I like the removable panel too. I'm an opener, so having a spot on speeder where you can pose figures giving it a tune up is a real bonus. The welding gear with the new Solo is going to come in pretty handy.
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The removable panel, I believe anyway, is more likely for a future repaint... At least that's my guess. Of course it's a great double as a "display feature" too, but a particular Speeder's seen missing the right side armor panel which has red markings on the rear (Luke's speeder is all grey with dark grey markings I believe).
It might be Zev or Wedge's Speeder that is seen flying but has the missing panel. I can't recall which exactly though. It's one of those I believe.
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I might have mentioned this earlier, but I would actually like Hasbro to go EU with this vehicle, and create some other paintjobs, such as that funky desert version from the proposed 1986 line. It's a cool, small ship, and if Hasbro stays within SW universe concepts (no day glo) this ship could work for them for years.
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I thought the tite swampspeeder was kinda goofy at first, but it grew on me so I wouldn't mind a few EU repaints of this either.
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I can handle some repaints. If they're doing any retools though, the only one I'd want is an open-canopy with quad-laser turret in the rear. It's a variant from a video game, and the only thing that I feel really looks like the kind of changes they'd make, or which would even be necessary considering they don't look altered to be in sub-zero climates even.
Desert camo would be kind of cool, or some kind of eyes/teeth camo like shark's mouth deco or something, or a bird or other animal that the ship's design may resemble.
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Vin_SnowspeederBoxed01_TN.jpg)
Another boxed image of Luke's Snowspeeder surfaced. Head out to the front page to check it out.
One of my more anticipated items of 2010 for sure...
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Me too Jesse. I'm also anticipating the Vintage packaging version and if they are going to call it the "Rebel Armored Snowspeeder" in true vintage form or call it out as Luke's Snowspeeder again.
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I know most of you guys are openers, but are any of you planning on picking up the various vinty packaging releases of these vehicles to keep sealed - or just to have the box (with vehicle of course)?
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I'm not sure yet. I know I'm definitely buying the vintage packaging, unless it ends being more money.
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I was sold on it seeing it at Toy Fair. It's a thing of beauty. The details Hasbro's capable of these days are really improved compared to the vintage mold. The recessed panel lines are some of my favorite aspects of the craft. The cockpit interior detailing though was icing on the cake, especially the quilted cockpit lid. I loved it.
I still can't get over the cool detailing Hasbro added with the actual aurabesh text on the panels and whatnot. :) Pretty neat stuff.
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Definitely one of the things I'm looking forward to the most this year as well. Next to the Falcon, this was my favorite ship as a kid, and that has carried over to today. I'm looking forward to picking up a few. As far the vintage packaging variant, I'll admit I'm tempted. I rarely keep things in package, aside from the VOTC/VTSC figures and a side collection Han and Chewies, but with the vintage packaging I might be swayed. I don't know if I could grab another AT-AT just for that, but maybe a Snowspeeder. We'll see. If I have the choice, I'll definitely try to pick up a Snowspeeder in the vintage packaging, at least to keep the box (and not necessarily keep "in box"). I almost wish they would just do all the vehicles in the vinty-style packaging, not that the new blue CW stuff is all that bad either.
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Are there any pictures or descriptions of the vintage styled vehicle packaging?
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Are there any pictures or descriptions of the vintage styled vehicle packaging?
Not yet. Hasbro said that they would be revealing imagery of the vintage style packaging in an upcoming Star Wars Insider. That article should be in Insider #118 which should be on newstands next month.
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I picked this up on friday, in a UK Toys R Us and I'm really pleased with it. The sculpt is really clean, and the transparency of the windows is really good, giving a nice view of your pilots inside.
The two sets of weapons are easy to swap out.
The cockpit is really cool, and I don't know whether it's on purpose, but there's a spot where Luke's grapple gun can fit.
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That's gotta be on purpose, thanks for sharing that snivit with us BUtP. Kind of neat to know. He does rifle around for it in there anyway, so it makes sense to make a home for it in the cockpit.
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The cockpit is really cool, and I don't know whether it's on purpose, but there's a spot where Luke's grapple gun can fit.
I love it when they do stuff like this.
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That's gotta be on purpose, thanks for sharing that snivit with us BUtP. Kind of neat to know. He does rifle around for it in there anyway, so it makes sense to make a home for it in the cockpit.
My sister always thought he was trying to drag Dak out!
You clip the end of the strap to the side of the gun and then put it in business end first (minus the hook). I suppose it could always be a cup holder in case they stop for a slush puppy...
It's really easy to get Dak's hands on the controls, but getting the sticker on the gunning console was like trying to pull the ears off a gundark.
Sorry I don't have pictures, I'm having camera issues.
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Check this out (not my pic):
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/1451/medium/ss13.jpg)
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That's a more considerable size reduction than first glance gives; combine it with replacing the harpoon and guns with the smaller non-firing versions (and a bigger AT-AT to battle) and it will look much more screen accurate!
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Yup. Just look at how big the AT-ATs feet are compared to the new Speeder. Not sure if that's the right scale or not, but works for me 8)
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I should be getting this ship tomorrow from TRU.com. Normally I don't get too excited about OT ships, but this one seems really cool. It will be nice to have a Rebellion ground unit.
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That's a more considerable size reduction than first glance gives; combine it with replacing the harpoon and guns with the smaller non-firing versions (and a bigger AT-AT to battle) and it will look much more screen accurate!
And you didn't trust me when I posted those early images Greg! :) Stick with me man, I'll take ya places.
Err, well, at least I'll help with ship scale.
I think some people were thinking it'd be like the size of the landspeeder, which is diminutive and probably the lifesize props are definitely smaller than the models generally, but the model was smaller too, and that is one hell of a match to the models at the very least.
Thanks for that comparison shot!
I'm having a toy orgasm. I want many Snowspeeders.
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Between this and the Cloud Car, I can't remember the last time I was this excited for vehicles.
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Wow. I'm both excited and disappointed. Looks like I might have to retire all my previous versions.
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That's a nice comparison photo.
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I scored one of these today - oh mamma. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/adult/motion.gif)
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I scored one of these today - oh mamma. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/adult/motion.gif)
Online or from a brick and mortar?
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I scored one of these today - oh mamma. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/adult/motion.gif)
Nice, eh?
See, I remember back in the good ole CSW days, people saying "You're nuts, it's perfectly scaled", and, "The Vintage one is great, what could you possibly fix?", and so on.
Now 2010 rolls around and apparantly you can fix quite a bit. :)
I'm so happy I'm scrapping all my work on making my own to-scale ones... I had a negative made and everything. I love cancelling a project like this though.
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I scored one of these today - oh mamma. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/adult/motion.gif)
Online or from a brick and mortar?
Brick and mortar (TRU). I scored this the Cloud Car and several Vintage and CW figures.
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Haha, Jesse- well, I don't know if it was scaled back ENOUGH, but it does look great! Now, the fact that there isn't any weathering... :P
Here's another great comparison:
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/veh_snowspeeder_027.jpg)
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Like I said, I think they scaled it to the model, and not the lifesize... That's probably the biggest difference in scale of the two tangible studio examples of the vehicle... The model had a clearly wider look whereas the lifesize was probably made smaller so it was easier to move on the forklifts for the take-off sequence. At least I could easily see that. It could just be like a lot of other differences and nobody gave enough of a poo to care about it. ;D
Except us of course. I swear the first time I saw ROTS one of the first thigns I noticed and which stuck with me from the get-go was Anakin's magic starfighter on Padme's balcony that kept going from one size to another as it swapped from CGI to lifesized prop/set. ::)
The weathering I'll live with. If there's one thing that can be fixed easily, it's damaing it with a nice weathered paintjob. I almost like the "factory fresh" looks at times, just for the neatness of having a pristine one. Kind of like a model would be, if that makes sense. I'll weather one too though, for sure. I want Luke to have a nice beat-to-hell one.
Now... Where's Wedge's? Or Hobbie's? Or Zev's? I'm in for any repaint o fthis. I totally plan to do an open-cockpit one too, from Force Commander, rocking the Rebel Brown and quad-rear-cannon so the gunner can do some serious damage. I love it.
And man, the little stuff like the aurabesh, the quilted ceiling sculpted into the cockpit, the place for Luke's grapple gun, the tight cockpit for the figures, the interchangeable guns. This is my "Big AT-AT". I've had this thing on the drawing board and even partially done for a while, and now I can happily put that aside. All those Snowspeeder pilots we got are going to be riding in style now.
The Cloud Car, if it weren't so "dull", would be equally high on my list too. The detail they crammed into it when I saw it at Toy Fair, simply floored me. Opening engine compartments, tons of little stuff... Hasbro is making a fun toy, but they're doubling it as a great collectible too. To me, these are oon-par with the 1:18 military stuff I collect. A little simpler construction, but I find them pretty equal in quality.
Now if Hasbro REALLY wants me to fund their kid's college tuition, start doing this, to OT Fighters... X-Wing, Y-WIng, B-Wing... I'm down for all 3 getting a to-scale treatment, and and this kind of detailing. A lot less likely, but I'd gladly shell out big bucks for those to be done that way.
Sorry to be long-winded, I just knew you'd be the kind of guy who probably appreciates the direction I'm coming from . :)
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I received a couple of these from TRU.com yesterday (with the buy one, get one 50% off deal), and I'll echo the comments here already - I think it is amazing. I've said before, this and the Falcon were my two favorite vehicles as a kid and it is nice to see both getting fantastic re-dos over the past few years here. I really hope we continue to see OT vehicle re-dos, because although the originals are nice in many ways, these improvements seem to really show what can be done these days with toys. Like Jesse mentioned, all the little details are astounding on this ship - and I'm definitely down for repaints of this for Wedge's, Zev's etc. Bring 'em on.
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I'll add my praise to this well done ship. Opened mine up yesterday and was just blown away. Couldn't be much happier. Thanks Hasbro!
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It's sounding like a broken record (in a good way), but I got this from TRU.com late in the week, and it's just pretty damned near perfect. The inclusion of the alternate firing guns (both front and back) was a very nice gesture from Hasbro, especially with how little things like this tend to get dropped due to costing issues on a lot of other items. Both Luke and Dack fit perfectly in the cockpit (and their hands fit the controls!), the little spot for Luke's harpoon gun is a great touch, and I can't get over just how nice this thing looks. This is a 10/10 all around for Hasbro, and I really hope they do a "red" repaint for Wedge somewhere down the line.
(I'm in the midst of trying to translate the Aurabesh inscription on the side of the ship and will update this post once I have it finished) :)
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(I'm in the midst of trying to translate the Aurabesh inscription on the side of the ship and will update this post once I have it finished) :)
Jesse beat you to it. (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1266296400,78105,) ;)
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(I'm in the midst of trying to translate the Aurabesh inscription on the side of the ship and will update this post once I have it finished) :)
Jesse beat you to it. (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1266296400,78105,) ;)
Weird, mine doesn't say that (although I haven't even tried to do the translation under the "ZZ" inscription). Here's what I got:
(under the laser cannon itself, right side of vehicle):
DO NOT STEP LASER
CANNON POWER SUPPLY
LOCATED UNDER PANEL
(on the "step" portion where Jesse's TF photo was taken, again, on the right side of mine):
LASER
ACCESS
PANEL
And, on the removable cannon part (over the removable access panel):
LASER
TARGET
CONTROL
So, it looks like mine (at least) is different from the one shown at Toy Fair that Jesse saw/translated. I like what he saw better, actually. I was kind of hoping that one of the translations would have been "BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE." :)
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I found this yesterday and I'll echo everyone's enthusiasm for it. I'm not a ship collector really, but this is one of the all time favorites and this new version is excellent. I'm looking forward to Wedge's next.
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Found the Snowspeeder yesterday at TRU. Simply a fantastic vehicle that is nearly perfect, in my opinion. I'm really enjoying this general trend Hasbro is following with updating and realistically-detailing the models of the classic SW ships.
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Haha, Jesse- well, I don't know if it was scaled back ENOUGH, but it does look great! Now, the fact that there isn't any weathering... :P
Here's another great comparison:
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/veh_snowspeeder_027.jpg)
Count me in the minority, but this doesn't look like a big enough difference for me to pony up $30. They're almost the same size. (I remember saying this 6 months ago when I saw the first pics.)
It's not like the difference between the new chicken walker and the old chicken walker. That was a HUGE difference.
These snowspeeder changes look fairly minor.
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Count me in the minority, but this doesn't look like a big enough difference for me to pony up $30. They're almost the same size. (I remember saying this 6 months ago when I saw the first pics.)
It's not like the difference between the new chicken walker and the old chicken walker. That was a HUGE difference.
These snowspeeder changes look fairly minor.
I'll agree that there isn't much of a size difference, but I would strongly recommend getting the new snowspeeder because it is a much better toy than the previous releases. The 2006 Zev Senesca speeder felt like a very fragile toy, with the front cannons not being too secure. The new Snowspeeder offers previous play features combined with alternate guns, new features and details, stable landing gear, and an all-around feeling of sturdiness. While the $30 price at TRU is high, if you can snag it for $25 at Target or Wal-Mart in several weeks I urge you to do so. I don't think you will regret it.
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While the $30 price at TRU is high, if you can snag it for $25 at Target or Wal-Mart in several weeks I urge you to do so. I don't think you will regret it.
Is TRU really selling this wave for $30 in some states? $27.99 in my neighborhood which is pretty close, but ya. My TRU restocked this wave twice already and the Cloud Car is clearly the winner with Snowspeeders lagging behind, but I still plan on picking this up at some point. One of my fav vehicles from ESB.
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$19.99 at Target today... the Cloud Car and all the other CW vehicles in this size as well.
Is the front landing gear too tall on this thing? Sorry if it's been covered... I just noticed that mine seems to tilt upwards at the front... it doesn't sit level.
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Mine seems fine Rob...
And the size differences aren't even well represented in the images that were out. Having one in-hand now, they're pretty different. Definitely different width, especially at the front, the size of the weapons are all scaled down, the engines, etc. Everything is smaller. Much more noticeable in person. That was one reason I was geeked for this at Toy Fair... Just seeing it in person I knew it was pretty good now.
Hasbro knocked it out of the park too, in every respect. From rivet/bolt holes, to recessed panel lines, to the warnings in aurabesh, to the tiny (and I mean tiny, but accurate) harpoon gun (I always considered it a light laser too). They really did a bang-up job. Even an escape hatch sculpted into the roof of the cockpit for the gunner, incase the pilot's incapasitated on a crash... Super detail there (not functional of course, but super detail regardless).
Even the landing skid has little shock/pistons sculpted into it. It's one of the most detailed ships I think Hasbro has ever done.
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The $19.99 sale is one of the temporary price reductions that last for about a month or so. Not sure if every Target is doing it, though. I would guess they will have the signs out when the resets are done.
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Just a couple pics of my customized weathered version:
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/snowspeeder31.jpg)
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/snowspeeder41.jpg)
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Quite cool Greg...
I saw some front-on images, and thought maybe taking a flat edge, like a regular head screwdriver (fairly large one) and pressing it in where some of the plastic was more curvey (on the body of the speeder, not the guns) would maybe make more sharp "damage" marks more like accordioning, but otherwise I think that looks badass. It's kind of a one-trick-pony, but a worthywhile one if people want to have Luke displayed as bailing on it. :)
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Is there a dead and charred Dak in the back seat?
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Hardly ever buy new vehicles (last new one I got was that Homie's Spider Droid), but I got this snowspeeder today. Really neat vehicle. I wouldn't want it any smaller, but then I think they make current Leia figures too small. Carrie Fisher's real height be damned! ;)