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Community => JD Sports Forum! => Topic started by: Neal on June 28, 2006, 04:28 PM
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Just to keep this thread going ... the Draft is tonight, and the NBA announced that they'll be using a new ball (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2503132) for the first time in 35 years come next season.
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i can't wait to see who the mavs get with #28.
i hadn't really thought about it until i read the article, but i doubt i have ever played with a leather ball. its kinda weird that they hung on to it for so long.
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Tonight's Scott E Roth entry...
Toronto -- Andrea Bargnani
Chicago -- Tyrus Thomas
Charlotte Brandon Roy
Portland Adam Morrison
Atlanta Shelden Williams
Minnesota Rudy Gay
Boston Randy Foye
Houston LaMarcus Aldridge
Golden St. Patrick OBryant
Seattle Ronnie Brewer
Orlando Rodney Carney
New Orleans Cedric Simmons
Philly Marcus Williams
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Just to keep this thread going ... the Draft is tonight, and the NBA announced that they'll be using a new ball (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2503132) for the first time in 35 years come next season.
Yet another reason to lose respect for the NBA crybabies. ::) Havlicek, West, Russell, Chamberlain, Bird, Jabbar, Magic and some dude named Jordan were ok with it. Few other guys too.
I'm not opposed to a new ball, but does this mean they'll start calling the carry balls or will it only get worse?
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Interesting draft last night. Some teams made some nice choices, and others continue to look like they don't know what they're doing. The Blazers were especially busy making a bunch of trades for players they could have easily picked themselves :P. I was happy to see Minnesota pick up Randy Foye, who many are saying could be the "Dwyane Wade of this draft". Hopefully they are right. Lots of guys drafted on "potential" once again though, which sometimes works - and sometimes doesn't.
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I'm still trying to figure out why the Wolves picked Roy at #6 and then had to trade for the guy we wanted - Foye.
Why didn't we just pick Foye at #6 if we wanted him that bad? Did they do it just to save cash since a #7 gets less money than a #6? ???
There must have been some trade or something we were going for, but then it fell through or something. It's just really strange to me to trade the #6 guy for the #7 guy and not get something more out of it.
And, the sports-talk-radio wanks this morning just will not let the KG trade rumors go. If they had their way, KG would be off to Chigaco right now for Tyrus Thomas and some other stiffs to even out the cash involved. :-\
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now we just have to wait until the season to see who scored and who blew it on the draft. i kinda thought adam morrison would go 1st and to more of a finess team than portland. but, then again i don't follow college ball or the euro leagues or high school ball enough to have any idea who most of these guys are.
the mavs got maurice ager. another guy i have never heard of. they say he could be a very nice roll player and might get some minutes his first year since he fills a spot nicely as a big 2 guard.
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Sad News (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2504783)
:'(
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that is really sad.
on the lighter side of things eddie griffin arrest (http://cbs13.com/topstories/topstories_story_180174619.html)
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Looks like Ben Wallace is going to Chicago:
Source: Ben Wallace leaving Pistons to sign with Bulls (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2508742)
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Nothing surprising, but fantastic news nonetheless ... at least to me:
;)
Wade extension worth around $80 million (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2508809)
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wouldn't that be more fantastic to you if wade signed with a new york team?
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wouldn't that be more fantastic to you if wade signed with a new york team?
Not really. I've always hated the Knicks.
;)
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i guess i was more thinking that you would be able to see all of his games instead of the 15 or so national games.
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i guess i was more thinking that you would be able to see all of his games instead of the 15 or so national games.
And that would be the ONLY reason I'd want Wade to be on the Knicks. Good point.
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Really the story for me this month has been Eddie Griffin of the 'Wolves caught masturbating with a porn flick in his car console's DVD player while he sat there in a drunk stupor in his crashed up car.
These are just allegations, of course.
Am I the only one who heard this?
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Really the story for me this month has been Eddie Griffin of the 'Wolves caught masturbating with a porn flick in his car console's DVD player while he sat there in a drunk stupor in his crashed up car.
These are just allegations, of course.
Am I the only one who heard this?
No ... I heard about it as well. When the story first broke, I laughed for a good two minutes straight upon hearing it. It has been the highlight of the off-season, bar none.
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i highly doubt anyone will top the eddie griffin scandal. and if they do, i sure hope it is not one of the mavs.
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What is it about Minnesota? ;)
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What is it about Minnesota? ;)
I know, but at least it looks like they got themselves a pretty great rookie in the draft (Randy Foye).
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I heard last night that the Timberwolves have signed PG Mike James now as well. Not necessarily a blockbuster deal, but he's a pretty solid player.
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What is it about Minnesota? ;)
Drinking and cavorting with the ladies is what our atheletes do best, whether on a boat cruise or in the privacy of their own cars. :P
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Drinking and cavorting with the ladies is what our atheletes do best, whether on a boat cruise or in the privacy of their own cars. :P
Or in the privacy of their own hand :o
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mike james must have REALLLY wanted to play with KG to have signed with an extremely bad team in a city that many consider exile and have to play with a knucklehead who can't even zip up after crashing his car.
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Maybe not major NBA news, but it sounds like Nashty cut his "trademark" hair (http://www.nba.com/suns/news/reporters_notebook.html) for the beginning of training camp. Ok, slow NBA news day :P.
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Ok, slow NBA news day :P.
Considerably slower news today than two days ago. . . (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/07/18/sonics.sale.ap/index.html)
:D
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that is kinda weird to see nash with a buzz cut. i imagine he will do just like his big buddy dirk and let it grow back out thru the season.
how big is okc? i have always thought of it as way too small for a major franchise. and, even at that, i kinda thought the hornets were still sorta playing there.
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Don't know if this is a surprise, but... (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2526292&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)
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The "new" Team USA beat Puerto Rico in a scrimmage last night, 116-82. It seemed to be a pretty solid victory, which is a big deal. Gone are the days of blowing teams out. After the last Olympics, we now should be happy with mere wins.
US Strong In First Showing (http://www.nba.com/usabasketball/blog.html)
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For anyone who's interested (which seems to be no one), Team USA has an exhibition game against Puerto Rico tonight, and it's being televised on ESPN2 at 11:00 EST.
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I watched quite a bit of last night's game, and although it is just an exhibition game, it was nice to see them kicking rear again. I really hope this team can do that come Olympic time again, they seem to have put together a pretty good roster. I have great memories of watching the 92 team just steamroll the world, and it would be nice to see US basketball get back to that level (or close to it, as some countries have improved significantly) again in the future.
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I watched the game as well, and I was really impressed with what I saw. I realize that it was just an exhibition game, and that they still haven't won anything, but let's just say that I'm cautiously optimistic. All of the guys on the team seem to want to be there, and they play really well as a unit. And their defensive intensity is phenomenal. It seems that all egos have been left behind. Hopefully, this team can help to eradicate that debacle that happened in Athens in '04.
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More promising results:
LeBron, Team USA crush Yao-less China, 119-73 (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2542151)
The game is being televised tonight on ESPN2 at 9:30 EST.
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It looks like Team USA finally ran into some competition:
U.S. edges Brazil late; Anthony injures knee (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2543157)
And it also looks like I'm the only person who could give a **** about these games.
;)
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No, you're not the only one, I've been keeping track as well. So there's at least two of us :P. I watched much of the game last night, and just read the write up on today's prior to seeing your post. Sounds like a closer game, but at least they still won. I'd have rather see them continue to destroy everyone though, so the chatter doesn't start about us not winning gold again. The most frustrating part is that we obviously have the best players overall, but hopefully we can get the team play/defense part of things rolling again. This team has looked pretty good so far though, so hopefully things are looking up.
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Well, I'm not overly interested and haven't posted primarily because I love watching the dream team lose :-X I'm not a huge fan of pro-basketball and haven't been for many, many years. I still like watching it, but have a hard time listening to these clowns complain. Fouls aren't fouls unless it approaches an assault or a particular favored star is the recipient. Travel ball isn't. I'm sorry, but Dr. J didn't travel when he was able to dunk from the foul line...
Couple that with the incredibly arrogant attitude and the propensity to be on the wrong side of the law and they can be as good as they want, but I'll want to see them lose.
I'm happy to see the reports they're playing better and as a team, I can only assume no one from Philadelphia is on the team then?
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it seems like you are letting a couple bad apples spoil the whole bunch for you. i think pro basketball and maybe sports in general has come along way in past several years in cleaning up its image. sure there are alot of guys with tats and rows, but not nearly as many seem to be supporting the thug life.
it really seems like you are letting allen iverson speak for the whole league. just be patient and in a couple years he will retire.
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After finishing exhibition play 5-0, the roster was cut down to 12 going into the World Championships this weekend. Gilbert Arenas had to withdraw due to injury, and the final cut from this initial team was Bruce Bowen. Both of them (and others) are still in the "pool" to make the Olympic squad in the future. The team going into this weekend is:
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Kirk Hinrich
Shane Battier
Elton Brand
Joe Johnson
Brad Miller
Chris Bosh
Antawn Jamison
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it seems like you are letting a couple bad apples spoil the whole bunch for you. i think pro basketball and maybe sports in general has come along way in past several years in cleaning up its image. sure there are alot of guys with tats and rows, but not nearly as many seem to be supporting the thug life.
it really seems like you are letting allen iverson speak for the whole league. just be patient and in a couple years he will retire.
Yeah, Iverson is a thorn in my side.
And the broad generalization of tats and rows is inaccurate. I couldn't care less about their physical appearance (I don't think that's your implication John, I just want it to be clear it's not my feeling either). What does bother me is the attitude in general and moreso than the players, what the league has done to the rules. It's less basketball, more entertainment to me than it used to be. Maybe it's just old age and crankiness, but fouls and travel ball used to NOT be subjective calls related to who the players involved were, their relative status in the league and the time of year the game occurs (i.e. playoff vs regular season in January).
Looking at the list of the team for the World Champioinships I don't have any problems with that team. I do find it somewhat devoid of 'stars' though. James/Wade are the only two guaranteed fantasy first round picks there. Maybe a couple of others, but it looks more 2-4 rounders to me. Seems like someone tried to make a team rather than a collection of all stars. ;)
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Looking at the list of the team for the World Champioinships I don't have any problems with that team. I do find it somewhat devoid of 'stars' though. James/Wade are the only two guaranteed fantasy first round picks there. Maybe a couple of others, but it looks more 2-4 rounders to me. Seems like someone tried to make a team rather than a collection of all stars. ;)
I'd add Carmelo to the list of "stars" ... and Elton Brand is right up there as well. After all, he did average 24.7 ppg, pulled down 10.0 rpg, and sent back 2.54 bpg ... alll while shooting a rather healthy .527 from the field. He's become a legitimate star.
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Maybe it's just old age and crankiness, but fouls and travel ball used to NOT be subjective calls related to who the players involved were, their relative status in the league and the time of year the game occurs (i.e. playoff vs regular season in January).
you probably have been a fan for longer than i have. i can't remember a time before the michael jordan rules.
i must say though, that seeing the mavs get whooped up on by that system in the finals was annoying, but everyone knew that was the way the game is played and the mavs have their "stars" too that get the preferential treatment.
i think alot of the guys on the world championship roster are pretty good players on bad teams. but, you are right, many are not superstars in the league yet. it probably makes for a much better system when some of the guys are not expecting to score 30 every game.
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I'd add Carmelo to the list of "stars" ... and Elton Brand is right up there as well. After all, he did average 24.7 ppg, pulled down 10.0 rpg, and sent back 2.54 bpg ... alll while shooting a rather healthy .527 from the field. He's become a legitimate star.
I wouldn't disagree with you, I was just thinking about last year's draft and how it went. There are certainly plenty of incredible ball players there.
you probably have been a fan for longer than i have. i can't remember a time before the michael jordan rules.
That just might be, if you consider being a fan since the last time either the Sonics or the Bullets won the championship as being longer ;) I liked basketball from a young age, but I was hooked back around 1977 when a kind bartender in a New Orleans hotel let me stand in the corner of the hotel lounge and watch a finals game :o
The Jordan rules have always existed, it just used to be significantly more subtle. There was a time when referees waved off hand checking, if you can believe it.
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If he keeps playing like he did yesterday, the rest of the world should be afraid. Very afraid .....
(http://www.nba.com/media/wade_600_060820.jpg)
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Big comeback for the US today. Melo dropped 29 points on Italy ... in the second half!
Carmelo's 35 help U.S. crawl back vs. Italy, win pool (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2558383)
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Anyone know why they can't show highlights on the net?
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No Wade, no problem:
U.S. finishes unbeaten in pool, will play Australia (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2559528)
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Son of a bitch. :(
Upset special: Greece stuns U.S. in FIBA semis (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543)
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I taped the game since it was on at 2:30 AM our time, and then watched the ending while working out this morning. How frustrating. Although I still didn't feel totally comfortable, I thought we had put together a pretty decent team. Granted, the "world" has gotten better overall, but we still have the best players. Too bad we haven't yet put together the best "team". Hopefully we can build on this going towards the Olympics in a couple of years. The team could still use a couple more shooters (Michael Redd would be great), and Kobe/Marion/Amare will likely be on the team next time around, so it will be interesting to see how things progress. I can't say I'm shocked we lost, but it is really getting frustrated. I miss the days of beating everyone else in the world by 25-50 points.
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i guess second place was good enough to get dirk $20 million a year. other than shaq and kg, i can't think of anyone making that kind of money. it seems like a little much, but i guess cuban didn't want to pull the same crap he did with nash and have to watch dirk whoop up on the mavs a couple of times a season.
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Okay, well, Eddie Griffin whacking off in his crashed up ride in a drunk stupor is not the funniest thing of the off-season anymore.
Just another night in the life of Stephen Jackson:
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Indiana Pacers player Stephen Jackson was hit in the mouth, struck by a car and fired a gun outside a strip club early Friday, police said.
Jackson, 28, told officers he fired his 9 mm pistol four or five times in the air in self-defense after he was punched and hit by a car outside the club, said Sgt. Matthew Mount, spokesman for the Indianapolis Police Department.
Jackson went up onto the hood of the car, Mount said.
:o
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Legendary Celtics coach Auerbach dead at age 89 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2642131)
:(
At least the regular season starts on Tuesday.
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:'(