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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Rogue One => Topic started by: Jeff on August 31, 2016, 12:45 PM
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Yep, the early reports were true - it's $300 bucks. Here's the official press info from Hasbro:
ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY RAPID FIRE IMPERIAL AT-ACT Playset
(Ages 4 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $299.99/Available: Fall 2016)
Lead the charge against the Rebel Alliance with the 3.75-inch scale RAPID FIRE IMPERIAL AT-ACT Playset! The AT-ACT can be controlled by remote or smart device, and actually moves its head and authentically walks into battle. Features an armored cargo and cockpit that can transport multiple figures. Open up the playset to unload cargo and send Stormtroopers into battle. This powerful vehicle features rapid-fire NERF dart cannons and comes with 3.75-inch JYN ERSO, exclusive C2-B5, and exclusive IMPERIAL AT-ACT DRIVER figures. Includes one vehicle and three figures. Requires 4 1.5v D batteries, not included. Available at most major retailers and on HasbroToyShop.com.
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$300?!
Holy crap that's going to sit. It's going to be REALLY fun trying to get my hands on one of each of the figures that it comes with... Damn.
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That's a kick in the nuts. I was hoping I'd have one eventually, but even 70% off Target clearance would be $90. Ouch. Oh well.
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It's all due to those expensive NERF features. >:D
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This is interesting from a couple different angles:
- $300 is the most expensive Star Wars toy Hasbro has ever released, by a long shot. I know there was a TRU exclusive Vintage boxed repackaged BMF (if I recall correctly) that was pretty spendy, but the original non-exclusive version was only $150. We also had the TFA MF for $140 and the 6" TIE for $170.
- The interactive / remote control aspect is a massive enhancement over a standard toy. It becomes a bit of combo between the BB-8 Sphero ($150) and a large 3.75" toy ($150).
- If this works at this price point, it could open the door to a lot of other different toy possibilities. Hasbro has said "big vehicles" just don't work from a financial perspective. This could help prove or refute that depending on the success. We've pined for a Sail Barge, Blockade Runner, etc., and if this is successful it could prove the value in creating $300 uber-toys.
I will definitely try and get one of these, although will try and get one for substantially less if I can. I would be willing to wager that this will sell better than the $150 6" TIE Fighter.
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Yeah, that repacked BMF was $275 at the TRU near me. I'm still kicking myself for not getting one at the original price point. If I remember right I'd found an AT-TE for $50 around that time and figured I should wait for clearance on the Falcon, and then I never found one.
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Wow, $300. I sort of wanted to pick one of these up (if not for myself, then for the kiddo at Christmas), but at that price no way. I really wonder how these will move at that price. At $300, you are right in line with video game systems, and that might be a tough sell with most kids.
It's funny, just this weekend I was showing our daughter some of the old Christmas catalog scans online (Sears and Penneys), and seeing 10 figures for $20, the Falcon for $25, and the AT-AT for $50 really makes today's sticker shock even worse. I know, rising costs and inflation and all that....but it sure would be nice if things were as simple and affordable as that. For a line that is supposed to be focused on kids, I have no idea how they would be able to keep up.
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$50 in 1981 is about $132.37 today. $25 was $66.18.
So yeah, things were more reasonable. Sure the AT-AT didn't walk.
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I hate to say I will be waiting for the clearance, but at $300, this is a non-starter for me. The figures aren't simply enough of a draw. More figures or a sort of Imperial squad set up might be more intriguing. It's got the driver, a droid which has cheaper and better articulated counterparts, and Jyn, who we know from press release is not exclusive to this set. The analogy to the video game system I think is a good one. That is definitely a price range people will tolerate around the holidays, if the value is there. I don't know how well the Sphero BB-8 did, so I can't speak to that but people I know who have one rave about it. The app integration is a terrific idea, the actual walking mechanism is a terrific idea, the size is good, not great, the figures are good, not great.
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$300?!
Holy crap that's going to sit. It's going to be REALLY fun trying to get my hands on one of each of the figures that it comes with... Damn.
Ebay. Not many people debate the ethics of buying from sellers in China anymore. When it's that or the alternative (or no alternative).
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I don't know how well the Sphero BB-8 did, so I can't speak to that but people I know who have one rave about it.
Nobody could keep this in stock from Force Friday through early December. It seemed that this was a hot, hot toy that took months for production to catch up with.
Not sure what Sphero's expectations were, but it seems like demand was higher than supply for several months.
Have they provided a demo video of this yet, showing how the app works? If the app is cool that should also help bolster sales. If its just a remote control without fun add-ons then its a missed opportunity.
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$300?!
Holy crap that's going to sit. It's going to be REALLY fun trying to get my hands on one of each of the figures that it comes with... Damn.
Ebay. Not many people debate the ethics of buying from sellers in China anymore. When it's that or the alternative (or no alternative).
If we get to that point and you happen to notice any eBay sellers, from China or otherwise with reasonable prices for the figures please do let me know.
I ended up paying $40 for the Finn and Chewie from the TFA Falcon, and I looked around a lot. Maybe it was there and I missed it, but I never saw any Chinese eBay sellers with them.
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As a parent I cannot imagine dropping that kind of cash on something like this at Christmas. Not even as a collector really. I wish them luck, but this seems like a classic boondoggle from the get-go.
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As a parent I cannot imagine dropping that kind of cash on something like this at Christmas. Not even as a collector really. I wish them luck, but this seems like a classic boondoggle from the get-go.
So what would people be willing to pay for something like this?
I agree $300 might be too much for a walking, full size, figures included, Nerf shooter AT-AT? I think $250 would seem like a reasonable deal, but $300 doesn't seem too unreasonable.
I agree that this is a tough buy as a gift for a kid, but as a collector I'm willing to drop $300 on a really well done toy (I'll withhold judgement on this one until I learn more).
People were just complaining that the U-Wing is too small with too few features and won't buy it as is, and they would be willing to pay significantly more for a "better" toy. I don't think we can have it both ways. It seems Hasbro is either going to make a scaled down affordable toy or really expensive uber-toys.
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That's just out of hand. I like the concept, but this price creep on big ticket items has just gotten out of hand. There's just no way I can justify getting this AT-ACT at MSRP. And even on sale or clearance it'll be very pricey.
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I think $200 is probably the ceiling on a mass market big ticket item for a line like SW. Could be wrong. Every 'big' vehicle they've done going back to the Naboo Royal Cruiser has seen some markdown and in many cases, steep ones. I got the BMF on clearance at Target; I got the AT-TE for $15 from TRU. ;D At $300 this is veering into Hot Toys / Sideshow levels of money and while I love those, they're cost prohibitive. When I spend $$$ on SW, it's on vintage toys and rarely. For some collectors this will be an easy sell, and for others not really. If it succeeds, and it may, then it probably heralds an increasingly interactive and expensive range of toys in the future. Imagine an app influenced X-Wing that opens and closes its wings. These things are cool. These things cost a lot of money.
There's been a stratification in the toy market for awhile now, as costs go up. You have a big push to make them affordable and accessible, while at the same time maintain some fidelity and integrity to the standards collectors have come to expect. It's why we have a 5 POA line at $7 and a SA one at $13. You could say that's catering to different audiences, or different wallet sizes. Long term, I don't know that's a good thing for a brand that's primary goal is mass market appeal. A casual buyer will never go for a $13 figure when a $7 one is available right beside it; consequently, there will never be the audience to support the $13 line in the way that a lot of collectors would probably see as necessary for it to be successful. Rounding back to the AT-ACT, I think that's ultimately where this thing falls. It won't work for the causal buyer, but will for a large enough core base to (maybe) justify it.
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Hasbro has just priced this out of reach for parents. There's no way I'd get my soon to be six year old a $300 toy for Christmas! The only way this could be woth $300 is if it were BMF Walker size (it isn't) and had less toy features and was more collector focuse (which it isn't).
I was looking forward to getting one of these for my son for Christmas...now I have to hope to God that he never sees a commercial for one!
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Black Friday sales... and I am sure you'll see it getting some price drops at Walmart (if they even carry it) somewhat quickly.
The sad thing is, it looks like an awesome toy. But I think they should have removed the walking feature and gotten this down to $200 MSRP. I'd be a buyer then in a heartbeat. At this price though, I am pretty certain I'll be waiting for a sale... then may get a second one on clearance.
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I'll probably look to get one MIB and use things like R-Us Rewards bucks to help bring the cost "down".
Definitely not getting an opener at that price, it will have to be at a deep discount that I pick it up so I can have one to actually open and display.
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Personally, I think Hasbro sets the bar high to get buyers feeling good about the the retail price they really want to sell at. We'd be having the same discussion if this launched at $250 or maybe even $200. By setting it at $300, they're going to get a few people who just can't wait, especially when demand is crazy high. Then it will eventually get marked down $50-75 and by then everyone will be thinking it's an amazing deal. If they instead launched at $225, people would probably avoid it like the plague. It's just smart marketing/pricing.
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I cannot personally justify spending more than $200 for the AT-ACT. The $300 price tag just puts this one out of reach. I see that price point as a psychological barrier for toy buyers.
This isn't a bicycle or a gaming console. And I don't care if it has the app control feature. But I think that this price point is a big mistake, and I can't see the casual buyer spending more than $200 on this vehicle.
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Hah bikes are cheap by comparison.
I wasn't ever a likely buyer, so I'm not in freak out mode. I don't think a $300 toy is going to fly unless that walking feature is insanely well done. But hey I'm not the target here.
I'm easily dropping $100-$150 on collector focused toys so had Hasbro done something like that I'd be in. I really wanted the pilot and droid. Oh well. I'm not banking on these being around for $50 to get gobbled up though.
Thinking about this more, that walking mechanism HAS to be incredibly expensive/complex as toys go... I kinda almost see where the price comes from because that's gotta be a major hit financially on this thing. That's a lot of design dollars alone I'd bet.
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Price is going to keep me away for sure. Will be waiting for clearance.
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Hah bikes are cheap by comparison.
I wasn't ever a likely buyer, so I'm not in freak out mode. I don't think a $300 toy is going to fly unless that walking feature is insanely well done. But hey I'm not the target here.
I'm easily dropping $100-$150 on collector focused toys so had Hasbro done something like that I'd be in. I really wanted the pilot and droid. Oh well. I'm not banking on these being around for $50 to get gobbled up though.
Thinking about this more, that walking mechanism HAS to be incredibly expensive/complex as toys go... I kinda almost see where the price comes from because that's gotta be a major hit financially on this thing. That's a lot of design dollars alone I'd bet.
You at least get more valuable buying a bike.
The figures are part of what gets me the most annoyed. I refuse to be angry about this. But annoyed? Absolutely.
I'm actually thinking that we might see people slicing open the packaging to get those figures. I can still remember seeing that happen quite a bit during the run of the EPISODE I line when people were after that red R2 unit that was packed in the window insert. You would see Naboo Royal Starships on the shelves and the R2 unit was gone. And in this case I think that I want to Imperial R2 unit the most, followed by the pilot and then Jyn Erso.
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I'll be watching for Tunghori auctions I think...
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+1
And Vipers Kingdom, too.
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I can't help but feel they looked at Sphero's BB-8 last year and jumped on marrying a phone-based controller with one of they're toys. The size and gadgetry just make it too expensive. The stiff-legged movement almost 20 years ago with Galoob's Action Fleet-sized $20 remote-controlled AT-AT walker was acceptable; on a $279 toy in 2016, it's half-assed. (No doubt that integrating movement to knee joints would have bumped up the price.)
Maybe they'll re-release with articulated knees minus the electronics.
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Instead of rapid fire it should be called misfire...
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Early look on YouTube of the walker (and LOTS of other stuff, stick around for all of it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwMc7FzLBr4
I'll say the walking feature is pretty cool. The Nerf thing is pretty cool. All that combined with the reviewer's enthusiasm really warmed me up to this thing. I would love to have one just to play with all the stuff and then put it away forever. That said, it's tiny and SO OVERPRICED as to be beyond belief. This is at best a $150 toy. $200 is stretching reason. If I can get it for below $200, I'll definitely consider it.
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$300 is too much to spend for a Star Wars toy for me... Living in California, I need that kind of money for soon-to-be-banned ammunition and other things like gas, food, house payments, etc. Yes, I have spent much more than $300 on other collectable items, but for a walking nerf gun, it is too much... Besides, I have my giant AT-AT from the Legacy Collection, which I think is awesome and perfectly suits my needs ;)
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Anyone seen an unboxing / demo of this to know if you can steer the AT-ACT? Just curious if you can get it to turn large circles, or if the control is really just forward and shoot.
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Will they swap heads and mid-sections someday and make an AT-AT version.
Nerf thing eats up cockpit space. On the other hand I've never been crazy about the gun barrels being missiles thing they did for years (it means that second-hand toys are missing the projectiles most of the time, and look all the worse for it).
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It sure didn't look like there was a lot of steering options from the clip of the control buttons shown in the video. I love all the other features though, even the nerf missle. I will definitely get one of these when they get down in the $200 range.
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Early look on YouTube of the walker (and LOTS of other stuff, stick around for all of it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwMc7FzLBr4
I'll say the walking feature is pretty cool. The Nerf thing is pretty cool. All that combined with the reviewer's enthusiasm really warmed me up to this thing. I would love to have one just to play with all the stuff and then put it away forever. That said, it's tiny and SO OVERPRICED as to be beyond belief. This is at best a $150 toy. $200 is stretching reason. If I can get it for below $200, I'll definitely consider it.
Yes, $150-$200 is my acceptable range for this thing as well. I will pay in that ballpark price once it hits that low, which I assume it will.
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Hasbro Pulse (http://pulse.hasbro.com/en-us/news/article?article=star_wars_at_act_designer_desk) has posted a new "Designer Desk" video highlighting the AT-ACT.
I still think this looks like a really nice, really fun... undersized, over-priced toy. :-\
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Funny how Steve Evans reacts as if this is the first time he's ever seen the AT-ACT toy. :)
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They always demo this on a table / smooth surface. I wonder how well the walking feature works with carpeting and if the feet get caught and topple the walker.
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They always demo this on a table / smooth surface. I wonder how well the walking feature works with carpeting and if the feet get caught and topple the walker.
We know it can get tripped by a thin cable or even loose logs.
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EE put up a pre-order (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSB7076&id=JE-405087801) for this today.
They say it's due in October but since it's already November, I'm going to guess that'll change. ;)
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BBTS is also listing the AT-ACT (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS25261&mode=retail), but I think they're being more mindful of the price concerns, because they're offering it for $274.99.
...and I'm still not biting at that price.
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BBTS is also listing the AT-ACT (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS25261&mode=retail), but I think they're being more mindful of the price concerns, because they're offering it for $274.99.
...and I'm still not biting at that price.
If it gets down to half of that... I'd consider it.
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Same here, or going in on a BOGO sale with someone.
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Same here, or going in on a BOGO sale with someone.
If you find something like that at some point and one can be shipped let me know.
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Same here, or going in on a BOGO sale with someone.
If you find something like that at some point and one can be shipped let me know.
10-4.
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Cool, I'll keep an eye out too...
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Yakface posted that this is now available on Walmart.com (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Star-Wars-Rogue-One-Rapid-Fire-Imperial-AT-ACT/49096480?u1=&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=Mcj*cziQFDU&sourceid=09378936900656385314&affillinktype=10&veh=aff). The price seems to be jumping around between $200 and $300. When I last checked it was at $220 with free shipping. Not bad.
A quick search shows this is on Target.com (http://www.target.com/p/star-wars-rogue-one-rapid-fire-imperial-at-act/-/A-50702012) as well, but for the full MSRP of $300.
Nothing on TRU.com and Amazon's seems to be only through the Amazon Marketplace.
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Thanks for posting that Dave. The worst kept secret in my family is that my wife ordered one of these for me for Christmas from Target.
She called and they adjusted her price down to the $220 that Walmart is offering.
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Has anyone seen an AT ACT in Target yet? It's on the front of their ad this week, but I haven't seen one nor heard anyone else say they have either.
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Has anyone seen an AT ACT in Target yet? It's on the front of their ad this week, but I haven't seen one nor heard anyone else say they have either.
Found at Target in KY
https://twitter.com/PUREJETT/status/808415011454513153
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Thanks Jayson. Is there a DPCI known?
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Thanks Jayson. Is there a DPCI known?
There are two at the Plymouth target as of 8am this morning - 087-06-5475
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You can do ship to store too - it's online. They have $25 off purchase of $100, but it's still $280ish even with the 5% savings.
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I'm more just interested in seeing one. Was starting to wonder if they were going to be online only. Thanks guys.
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You can do ship to store too - it's online. They have $25 off purchase of $100, but it's still $280ish even with the 5% savings.
My wife picked one up for $204 in a no-sales-tax state. That was a Walmart price match at that $220 price that was posted the other day, then 5% off with the Red Card.
Then yesterday we found the $25 off $100 coupon, if they'll let her apply it retroactively that'd bring it down to $180.
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I got the Toys R Us near where I work to price match to the Walmart.com $199.97 price and picked up two of them. The bonus to doing it this way is that I was able to pick one off the shelf that was in decent/near-mint shape for the one I'm leaving MIB.
I had been dreading this purchase, and I'm glad to have it over with. While I dislike how they've handled the 3.75" TBS line, kudos to WalMart for seeing that this item is ridiculously over-priced at the $300 MSRP and have done all of us interested in getting this item a solid by having it posted on their website AND in stock at 2/3 the MSRP.
I am interested to see this in action. The driver figure is a great sculpt, I hope there is going to be a cheaper way to get a couple more of them eventually.
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Not a bad idea Pete. Target does price matching too. I may have to use my Red Card there for another 5% off.
Although I'm still tempted to wait on this one and see if the price comes down further below $200.
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For us novice price matchers, how would you go about handling this with TRU or Target. Can you just show them the web price on your phone?
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Not a bad idea Pete. Target does price matching too. I may have to use my Red Card there for another 5% off.
Plus Target has the "$25 off $100 on toys" coupon running again this week. Coupon plus red card works out to about $166 plus tax if you can find one at Target before Sunday...
About 45% off... tempting!
For us novice price matchers, how would you go about handling this with TRU or Target. Can you just show them the web price on your phone?
Target has a list of online competitors (https://corporate.target.com/_media/TargetCorp/about/pdf/Price-Match-Online-Competitor-List.pdf) they will match. All you have to do is show the Walmart.com price on your phone to the cashier at checkout and they will match it.
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Do you think Target would accept that $25 off coupon on top of price matching? Very tempting.
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It's worth a shot. I've had times where I've had a price-match plus coupon/cartwheel, but then other times where the system didn't allow it.
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So does anyone have a solid grasp on TRU's price-matching policy? Because I was in a TRU today and saw at least two AT-ACT's on the shelves. And I'm pretty sure they're running their BOGO 40% off sale right now, too, although I have seen a number of instances when those sale peg tags get left up after a sale has ended.
That being said, if TRU will price match to $199.97, and THEN apply the BOGO 40 % off? You should be able to get the two for a combined $320-ish. I can't bring myself to buy two of these, but if you could find a partner to split the two? Then conceivably you might be able to get one for about $160 plus tax.
And this is just if you want to get mad at whiny fanboys with anger issues: JTA Rogue One AT-ACT review (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=JReviews&rop=showcontent&id=2761).
I am SO glad I quit working on that hell-hole of a site.
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Wow. That is a lot of angry words strung together in not always coherent sentences.
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Yeah. Someone is spending way too much time in their own head.
I'm also fascinated by how his displeasure with the AT-ACT is the direct result of collectors getting into the 6" Black Series line. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So does anyone have a solid grasp on TRU's price-matching policy? Because I was in a TRU today and saw at least two AT-ACT's on the shelves. And I'm pretty sure they're running their BOGO 40% off sale right now, too, although I have seen a number of instances when those sale peg tags get left up after a sale has ended.
That being said, if TRU will price match to $199.97, and THEN apply the BOGO 40 % off? You should be able to get the two for a combined $320-ish. I can't bring myself to buy two of these, but if you could find a partner to split the two? Then conceivably you might be able to get one for about $160 plus tax.
When I was at customer service getting the two I purchased price matched, I asked, I figured "why not?" - so I politely asked and the woman at customer service informed me that it's a "one or the other" type of thing. You can get the BOGO 40% off offer OR you can get the price match. So basically, I chose price match cause that was $400 plus tax vs. $480 plus tax.
Hope that helps...
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JTA - somebody stop me - is just really at this point about perpetuating their own brand. That brand is negativity. Pot stirrers attract a lot of attention. It's why they stir the pot. There are legit gripes about the hobby JTA has exploited to a theatrical level that has also now bled into attacks against collectors and segments of fandom for - what exactly? You'd think someone with such hostility toward 5 POA figures would be able to articulate their real issues with collecting, powerful female leads and insert topic of the week here.
Re: AT-ACT - very tempted to see if the price matching / coupon combo would work at Target as it is in stock around here.
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Just got back from Target and I'm the proud (buyers remorse hasn't set in yet) owner of an AT-ACT price matched/couponed/red carded for $165.
The Target manager was fairly incredulous that WM was selling the same thing for $100 less, but he matched it without any trouble.
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The Target manager was fairly incredulous that WM was selling the same thing for $100 less, but he matched it without any trouble.
That was nearly the same reaction I got from customer service at Toys R Us - she looked at the WalMart website listing three or four times to make sure her eyes weren't deceiving her! ;D
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So does anyone have a solid grasp on TRU's price-matching policy? Because I was in a TRU today and saw at least two AT-ACT's on the shelves. And I'm pretty sure they're running their BOGO 40% off sale right now, too, although I have seen a number of instances when those sale peg tags get left up after a sale has ended.
That being said, if TRU will price match to $199.97, and THEN apply the BOGO 40 % off? You should be able to get the two for a combined $320-ish. I can't bring myself to buy two of these, but if you could find a partner to split the two? Then conceivably you might be able to get one for about $160 plus tax.
When I was at customer service getting the two I purchased price matched, I asked, I figured "why not?" - so I politely asked and the woman at customer service informed me that it's a "one or the other" type of thing. You can get the BOGO 40% off offer OR you can get the price match. So basically, I chose price match cause that was $400 plus tax vs. $480 plus tax.
Hope that helps...
I guess TRU doesn't want to take a total bath on this, huh?
JTA - somebody stop me - is just really at this point about perpetuating their own brand. That brand is negativity. Pot stirrers attract a lot of attention. It's why they stir the pot. There are legit gripes about the hobby JTA has exploited to a theatrical level that has also now bled into attacks against collectors and segments of fandom for - what exactly? You'd think someone with such hostility toward 5 POA figures would be able to articulate their real issues with collecting, powerful female leads and insert topic of the week here.
The sad thing is that it's really just ONE GUY who is generating all of this negativity. But he has attracted a lot of like-minded people who are equally negative about it. And that negativity just feeds on itself.
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If you open a Walmart credit card you get 15% off (as a credit on the statement), dropping the price to $170. You also get a $25 eGift card (last day today), I guess for future use.
I bit.
I railed against it as a $300 poc because of the stiff-legged movement, but for $170, I can accept it as a once-in-a-while expensive largish vehicle that just happens to include a bonus crappy walking feature.
I do wish it's re-released with click-stop knee joints and without the smart phone control electronics. For a decent price.
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Wow I think the walking is the coolest part about it, personally. It seems like it works well too. It's why I kinda would like one.
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So I just cracked this baby open and have been playing with it with the kids. Overall I would say its pretty solid and not a bad value for the $165 I paid for it.
My all time favorite kid vehicle is still the Clone Turbo Tank with the launching speeder bike, but this is pretty nice too.
The app controls are good. It seems solidly built. The walking action is decent (I'm using it on a hard wood floor). Sure it would be great if you could turn it to some degree, and I would like more control of the head, but its really not too bad.
And I really like the play features and the detacheable orangeish "cargo bed". The zip line and missile launcher are cool, and I really like all the sockets they've placed in the toy where you can attach them. Big points for having weapons storage compartments that seal up well too.
It was a little too hard for my nine year old to set up - getting the legs attached, the chin guns in place, and the battery compartment re-sealed were even a little tricky for me. But once set up its held together well.
I had fairly tempered expectations with this and I would say they have been met or exceeded.
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Thanks for the review Dave. I've been on the fence about this, but seems like a good value.
Looks like the WM price is back up to $289, so I'll have to watch for another sale...
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I bet we'll be able to find this on clearance. The retail price is just too high for a kids toy.
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I bet we'll be able to find this on clearance. The retail price is just too high for a kids toy.
That stuff is so hit or miss... I got an AT-TE for $50, missed the Clone Turbo Tank completely... then I tried to hold out for clearance on the BMF when it first showed up for $150 or whatever. I never saw one on clearance, and now they're $400 on eBay and $300 when they occasionally get re-released into stores. Of course, a few years ago I got an MTT for like $35 at TJ Maxx, so...
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Agreed. I think clearance on this might be dicey as it doesn't appear that many physical stores are stocking this.
I'm not sure how much inventory Target and others are even carrying on this.
I suppose Hasbro might have loads of these sitting somewhere and may offer some big discounts to retailers to clear them out though.
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That's the funny thing about waiting for clearance and people who consistently tell you that you shouldn't... For me, something's only worth what I'm willing to pay, so sometimes I wait. I waited on most of the BF vehicles and got most. I bought an AT-TE full price as I wanted to show support for that, but on the others, they're not really my cup of tea for the full price so I got most at steep discounts. That said, if it's something I'm in love with I'm willing to shell out big $.
It's funny how the AT-ACT has brought out the odd perceptions of collectors and value too... They cite the price, say it's too much, etc., and for me it is too though not because I think the value isn't there. I feel it's just not in my personal wheelhouse. Comparatively speaking though, this week a pre-order went up for an Aliens APC for a whopping $250. It's 1/18 scaled perfectly, it has features spot-on to the movie and the actual plans for the vehicle, just shrunk down into a "toy". Now this is very much in my wheelhouse of something I want, but it's a whopping $250! :o Now, I'm going to get two... one full price for sure, and I'll keep an eye on the second one, but may bite before any price drops. It's a fraction the size of the AT-ACT though, and has basically 0 electronics (some interior lighting, but nothing more than simple LED work). But it's more a model than a toy, and man I love me some Aliens.
I look at the AT-ACT and I know people rag on it because it shoots NERF darts and stuff, but it friggin' walks... When I was a kid I'd have given almost anything for my AT-AT to have walked, much less remotely. I wish it was a little more controllable, but that's a whole other level of complexity adding in different servos and such. So I get what Hasbro did here, and I kinda get the price, not to mention it's basically been pretty easy to get for much closer to $200 than $300, and is $200 REALLY bad for this? I don't think so at all.
To each their own though... I say if you're not that into it, definitely gamble on the waiting game. It's not like people don't know chance they take.
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Its a game of perceptions really. It launches at $300 and nearly everyone balks at that price (myself included). But just last week it was down to $200 at Walmart. That's still steep for some people, but others probably saw it at $100 off and jumped on it. Dave was able to track one down at Target, using the WM price match and Target discounts to get it all the way to $165. I'd probably bite at that price and it certainly seems like a deal given that WM moved their price back up to $285. In fact, I was hoping to go nab one tomorrow, but I dragged my feet too long and now the offer is gone.
That said...if this thing launched at $165 today and we had no previous pricing background on it, I'm not sure I'd buy it for that. With some of these big ticket items you almost expect to get a discount at some point because the average Joe isn't going to shell out $165 for them. I'd probably be hoping to pull the trigger around $125 with a $165 launch, but that seems very unlikely with the $300 shelf price. So while I guess I'd estimate the value for myself at somewhere between $125-$165, acceptance of that higher range is really driven by the initial MSRP.
I don't know if that's just me or collector's math coming into play, but it's odd how your perception of value or a fair price can change based on how it's introduced.
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It's so tricky... I am sure that with the lackluster movement on all of last year's big ticket items (6" TIE Fighter is foremost on my mind, but the mountains of interactive Yodas everywhere are evidence too along with the entire aisle full of stuff at TRU that never seems to move) has made retailers a bit gun shy on this one. As a bargain hunter, you have to be OK with the big one getting away sometimes. I am waiting on this, and if it hist $50-60 I may bite. I understand fully that it may never get there and I'm OK with that.
I have an AT-AT that I got for $25, paid $30 for the MTT. I paid a whopping $4 for my AT-TE at Goodwill.
Of all of the BF ships, the one I'd like to have most, the Falcon, is the one I never really saw dip down, and now that they have a Nerf atrocity I wonder when we'll ever see it again. If I had it to do again, I may have bitten at $150-200 as that now looks like a bargain.
"Value" is so subjective, so to everyone that wants one of these, I hope you can find it!
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Now $149.98 at some Target stores (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2016/12/23/at-act-stumbles-into-clearance/)
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A little early for clearance isn't it?
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That's the funny thing about waiting for clearance and people who consistently tell you that you shouldn't... For me, something's only worth what I'm willing to pay, so sometimes I wait. I waited on most of the BF vehicles and got most. I bought an AT-TE full price as I wanted to show support for that, but on the others, they're not really my cup of tea for the full price so I got most at steep discounts. That said, if it's something I'm in love with I'm willing to shell out big $.
It's funny how the AT-ACT has brought out the odd perceptions of collectors and value too... They cite the price, say it's too much, etc., and for me it is too though not because I think the value isn't there. I feel it's just not in my personal wheelhouse. Comparatively speaking though, this week a pre-order went up for an Aliens APC for a whopping $250. It's 1/18 scaled perfectly, it has features spot-on to the movie and the actual plans for the vehicle, just shrunk down into a "toy". Now this is very much in my wheelhouse of something I want, but it's a whopping $250! :o Now, I'm going to get two... one full price for sure, and I'll keep an eye on the second one, but may bite before any price drops. It's a fraction the size of the AT-ACT though, and has basically 0 electronics (some interior lighting, but nothing more than simple LED work). But it's more a model than a toy, and man I love me some Aliens.
I look at the AT-ACT and I know people rag on it because it shoots NERF darts and stuff, but it friggin' walks... When I was a kid I'd have given almost anything for my AT-AT to have walked, much less remotely. I wish it was a little more controllable, but that's a whole other level of complexity adding in different servos and such. So I get what Hasbro did here, and I kinda get the price, not to mention it's basically been pretty easy to get for much closer to $200 than $300, and is $200 REALLY bad for this? I don't think so at all.
To each their own though... I say if you're not that into it, definitely gamble on the waiting game. It's not like people don't know chance they take.
I think I've said it before, but it bears repeating. I like the AT-ACT, but it's kid's toy quality at a collector's price. If this were the size of the BMF-AT-AT or slightly smaller with better detail, I'd most likely get one. I really want to get one for my oldest son (he loves walkers and was thrilled to see them in Rogue One), but I cannot justify buying him a $300 toy!
I like what Hasbro is trying to do here...but the way the executed this, they made it something I cannot get.
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Everyone seems pretty able to nab it for $200. And many seem to get it in the ballpark of $150-ish too, and I think that's probably where it was sort of expected to end up with all the "Hey look it's ____ off" sales and stuff... just like the giant battlepacks of yore that used to get slashed right when they were supposed to hit the shelves at Target and things (but usually were sold out long before if they were any good).
The $300 price is definitely too much to my mind, but if I had a kid into Star Wars, the $200 price would've been enough for me to cave for that.
That said, I waited on the BFATAT and got it cheap so I wouldn't have plunked $200 down for this even, or $150 for that matter... just not my bag. Like I said though, that Aliens APC is $250 pre-order, and I won't be batting an eye at getting that. :-X
The value is there, to me, for that. Something I've wanted for quite some time and it looks better than I'd imagined it could.
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I got so giddy at the $150 markdowns that I was tempted to buy the Air Hogs Falcon and a 2nd AT-ACT. I pictured my sisters' kids engrossed with navigating the walker. Then out of nowhere, with Flight of the Valkryies blaring -- or maybe Flight of the Bumble-bee, depending on my mastery of flight -- the drone would crash into the AT-ACT on its suicide mission, sending both ships hurtling, and the little ones scattering. That would be one of the coolest things they'd have seen. 8)
Then sanity settled in. Their reaction would be priceless but that stunt would have cost me a lot of money. :P
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I picked up an AT-ACT for $150 clearance at Target. At that price, the walking/nerf-darting features easily make up for it being a bit smaller than the BAT-AT version.
No way I would have paid $300 for this, but at $150, it's a really fun toy. Kids and I are having a blast walking it around and shooting the nerf darts (don't tell the other collector sites I said that though - wouldn't want it getting around that some folks actually enjoy the nerf stuff ::)).
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God forbid! :P
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I finally opened mine up yesterday. Nice toy overall, I haven't put batteries into it - but it's pretty clear that all the costs went into those electronics. When I saw the price tag, I assumed it would be big like the giant version, or at least closer to that than to the POTF II version in size. So I was surprised at how small it is. But it seems like a sturdy toy and I like it.
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Wow, I cannot believe how quickly the price has crashed on this thing. I didn't think $300 was outrageous for what you get - just above what I wanted to spend. The $150ish price felt more reasonable, but $90? That's starting to feel like a stock up option...assuming you can find one.
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I still don't get it. Why are they getting rid of them so fast? I haven't even seen one in stores yet. I figured it would be around for awhile at full price first.
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They never made it out before Christmas to my knowledge, and it's after Christmas, and it's a large ticket Christmas item... That's my thought on it. I don't know if Hasbro couldn't get them to retailers in time or what? Possibly some kind of snafu on the docks again that delayed it? It didn't seem to make it out anywhere though, and if anything it was online first but right before the holiday. This seems like something they'd have wanted out in November early on if they could've gotten it out.
I cannot imagine it isn't some shipping/distribution issue and the retailers don't want it lingering on shelves post-holiday... That said, only Target seems to have them to put out on shelves even, at the moment. Wal-Mart had them online... maybe their allotment sold that way? Can't recall who else, if anyone, got them online to sell? Disney Store maybe? Someone did.
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GameStop had it too, both in store and online. Not sure if it's hit clearance there yet but the TIE Striker and U-Wing both have so it's only a matter of time I'm sure.
I just checked Brickpicker and my closest Target has two at the 89.98 price. Have to admit it's tempting me.
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I cannot imagine it isn't some shipping/distribution issue and the retailers don't want it lingering on shelves post-holiday... That said, only Target seems to have them to put out on shelves even, at the moment. Wal-Mart had them online... maybe their allotment sold that way? Can't recall who else, if anyone, got them online to sell? Disney Store maybe? Someone did.
My wife ordered mine on Target.com, shipped to the store and she picked it up there. That was about two weeks before Christmas.
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The first time I saw them at TRU was last week for $300. They are never going anywhere there.
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I might bite on this at the Target clearance price of $89.98. I just can't believe that they would clearance this already. It's only been on the shelves for about a month!
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While I've seen the $150 sticker and yet to see the $90, the target nearest to my home dropped it to $200 just last week. Target.com still has it at $300. I wouldn't be surprised if these make their way back onto Target's shelves for $300 after the inventory process.
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If I see one at $90, I'll buy it.
Then it will stay hidden in my house until my son's birthday in October! ;D
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I had managed to get a good deal on one of these and Santa delivered it to my 7 year old Christmas morning.
It's a neat toy. I like the rapid fire Nerf cannon...and the fact that it walks. If this were to scale with the BMF AT-AT, I'd have one in my collection.
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I saw these at Ross but I couldn’t pull the trigger yet at $90. $50 though? I’m keeping eyes peeled for them. I dig that it walks and that alone would maybe lure me to get one.
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I checked yesterday and the ROSS near my office still has two leftover. Interestingly, all of the big TIEs have disappeared though.