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Title: NFL 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 11, 2005, 04:48 PM
The Jets looked like a high school football team today.  All that talk about, "Oh, the Jets are gonna run wild on that Chiefs defense," and "The Jets defense is gonna stop Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson cold" didn't really pan out like these NY writers thought.

Jets suck.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2005
Post by: Ryan on September 11, 2005, 06:04 PM
The Jets looked like a high school football team today.  All that talk about, "Oh, the Jets are gonna run wild on that Chiefs defense," and "The Jets defense is gonna stop Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson cold" didn't really pan out like these NY writers thought.

Jets suck.

The same could be said about the Broncos. >:(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on September 12, 2005, 12:05 AM
Woot, what a day for Daunte!

Only 233 yds with 3 INT, 2 Fumbles, 0 TD passes!   >:(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 12, 2005, 12:32 AM
Cadillac Williams, Jimmy Smith, the TE Smith from TB, and Larry Johnson have to be the biggest surprises of the day.  Oh, and the 49ers taking down the Rams.  I guess that's the Niners win for the season  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on September 12, 2005, 12:41 AM
I'd say Cedric Wilson's performance deserves some acclaim as a surprise too.  That was a fun game to watch for Steeler's fans.

Nice seeing Roethlisberger dropping the pre-season blues and getting his **** together too.  Perfect record for the day, not too shabby, and some really impressively accurate passing on his part, especially when pressure came in.

Other than the opening drive we got stomped on by the Titans, that was a fun game to catch. :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 12, 2005, 12:44 AM
Woot, what a day for Daunte!

Only 233 yds with 3 INT, 2 Fumbles, 0 TD passes!   >:(

I expect him to suffer without Moss, but this is probably a tad worse than what his average will be.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Famine on September 12, 2005, 12:50 AM
How 'bout those Giants?  ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on September 12, 2005, 10:51 AM
Daunte as the undisputed team leader=Custer at Little Big Horn.  The NFC North is horrible.  Not one of those teams impresses.  They might have a team win the division with 6 or 7 wins.  Ugly.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on September 18, 2005, 04:31 PM
Woot, what a day for Daunte!

Only 233 yds with 3 INT, 2 Fumbles, 0 TD passes!   >:(

 >:(

The Moss-less era sure is off to a crappy start...

0-2 and Daunte = 155 yrds with 5 INT and 0 TD Passes (though he managed to finally run one in).

A ratio of 8 INT to 0 TD passes to start the year =  (http://www.jedidefender.com/images/newsicons/icon16.gif)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2005, 01:42 AM
How bout them Buccaneers!

I haven't had this much to cheer about since week 2 of 2003.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2005, 12:39 PM
Woot, what a day for Daunte!

Only 233 yds with 3 INT, 2 Fumbles, 0 TD passes!   >:(

 >:(

The Moss-less era sure is off to a crappy start...

0-2 and Daunte = 155 yrds with 5 INT and 0 TD Passes (though he managed to finally run one in).

A ratio of 8 INT to 0 TD passes to start the year =  (http://www.jedidefender.com/images/newsicons/icon16.gif)

Marcus Robinson and Nate Burleson will never be Randy Moss.  There's no doubt that C-Pep benefitted from the black hole that is Randy Moss, sucking up every pass that comes his way.  Time will tell, but I don't think the Vikings have a good enough passing or running game to do anything this year.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on September 19, 2005, 01:17 PM
The O-line actually gave Culpooper time yesterday, he just wasn't making the correct throws.  He would throw to a covered guy even if the defender was in between the reciever and the ball.  He overthrew.  He underthrew.  He forced the ball at the wrong time.  He locks onto one reciever and misses  out on open guys.  He panics too easily.  He's not a bright man from what I can tell.  I would take a smart QB who keeps his cool anyday over a supposedly gifted athlete that looks good on paper anyday.  Too bad those types are hard to find.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2005, 02:05 PM
The O-line actually gave Culpooper time yesterday, he just wasn't making the correct throws.  He would throw to a covered guy even if the defender was in between the reciever and the ball.  He overthrew.  He underthrew.  He forced the ball at the wrong time.  He locks onto one reciever and misses  out on open guys.  He panics too easily.  He's not a bright man from what I can tell.  I would take a smart QB who keeps his cool anyday over a supposedly gifted athlete that looks good on paper anyday.  Too bad those types are hard to find.

At the same time, if C-Pep snaps out of this suddenly and puts up McNabb or Manning numbers, I wouldn't be shocked either.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on September 26, 2005, 12:49 AM
Pittsburgh lost a hard-fought game today from both sides.  outplayed is outplayed though.  We had shining moments but the attempt at a latteral was ultimately the turning point I'm afraid.

Kept me glued to the TV right to the end, but the D didn't do squat for the last drive and we just didn't match up well today.  Was a fun game to watch but my toe's still stinging from kicking the wall, heh.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on September 26, 2005, 01:57 AM
Update:  Bucs fans still thrilled!  A tough win on the road and a lot of bad penalty calls against both teams.  A 1 point win against a team that missed a PAT.

And after a 158 yard performance, Cadillac Williams is the undisputed frontrunner for ROY at this early stage.  434 total yards rushing in his first 3 games, a record, and also the first rookie in NFL history to rush for 100 yards in each of his first three games.

The Bucs are running the ball very well, and shutting down the run very well - and 3-0.  And they play the Lions, Niners, Bears, and Dolphins in the upcoming weeks.   I love it.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 2, 2005, 08:43 PM
What a fantastic time I had at Giants Stadium today watching the Giants take on the Rams.  Great weather, plus I had nice seats close to one of the goal lines.  The Giants offense has been the best in football through week 4 and today Eli Manning pretended he was Peyton, he just keeps getting better and better.  He loves Plaxico Burress apparently, those two hooked up for completions all day long.  Close to 300 yards and 4 TDs for Manning. I have high hopes for this guy.

The best part though was this freak of nature who was screaming really funny obscentities throughout the game, just about after every play.  We were noticing he called someone an "*******" on just about every possession, so I started keeping track of the official "Section 123 ******* of the Possession" and unfortunately it was most often Tiki Barber, the jersey I was wearing.  But this guy looked like a midget or something with this weird Giants-braid dreadlock hat and was hammered silly, apparently unaware the Giants were up by 10-20 points most of the game.  Finally some people turned around and said, "Dude, you know we're winning, right?" and this guy responded, "Oh, man, we are.  I just can't take this game of football," and slid down in his seat, finally silent for the 4th quarter.  We're not sure if it was the 10th Miller Lite that did it for him, or if he was finally soothed by the knowledge that we were winning.

Great experience.

Go Giants!!

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on October 3, 2005, 02:34 PM
Daunte Culpepper - 2 more INT.

At this pace, he'll throw 40 INTs this year... will Blanda's record 42 INTs in one year be in danger?   :P

Guess we'll all have to keep watching.


The Vikings suck.  They knocked Vick out of the game and STILL couldn't stop the Falcons from running all over them.  Sure, the Vikes have 5 injured Defensive players, but come on - even Matt Schaub got off a few long runs on them.  He had almost as many yards as Vick on the same number of carries...  :-\

The Offensive line was horrible (again).  What happened to the team that showed up against NO last week?  Too bad they were replaced once again by the team that played against Cincinatti 2 weeks ago.   :(



Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2005, 02:57 PM
Okay I was going to reserve this another week, but yesterday sealed it for me:

The Vikings SUCK.

They can't run, they can't pass, they can't play D.  I think they are totally hopeless now.  I think C-Pep could be great if he had some kind of running game to keep the opposing D off balance, or if he had some wideouts, but the man has not a stitch of talent to work with.

I have to be fair though, the NFC North is packed with garbage teams, it's anyone's division so you can't totally write them off yet, as hideous as they are.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2005, 03:04 PM
I couldn't be happier with the way things have shaken out so far this season. :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on October 3, 2005, 03:13 PM
I couldn't be happier with the way things have shaken out so far this season. :)

You mean how the schedules worked out and you get to play 4 games against the hopeless NCF North this year?

The NFC North is bad, bad, bad.  Three teams with one win and the Packers (0-3) play tonight to try to join them.   :(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2005, 03:53 PM
Wins are wins.  Over the last 2 years, the Bucs would have lost those close games.  Part of getting to the playoffs is beating the teams you're supposed to beat - the Vikings haven't been able to do that, the Bucs did (even though they were underdogs against the Vikings and Bills).

Despite the crappiness of some of those teams, the Bucs are number 1 in rushing-defense (allowing 61 ypg), 3rd in pass-defense and number 1 in overall defense.

They're also running the ball well (with the exception of yesterday, but Griese threw for over 300 yards to compensate).  It's a winning combination.  The only drawbacks/things to be concerned about are penalties (they've had LOTS) and Griese's 3 INT's yesterday - but reports today are that he was playing with a concussion, so it's not worth panicking on that one yet.

Up next, the Jets, Dolphins, and Niners.

The Bucs could be 7-0 before we know it.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2005, 04:53 PM
The Bucs are going to kill the Jets, and then split with the Dolphins and Niners to go 6-1.  Anyway you cut it, they're in damn great shape.

And if they're not, Rob can always do what he suggest I do in his PM to me, which is available upon request.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2005, 05:13 PM
The Bucs are going to kill the Jets, and then split with the Dolphins and Niners to go 6-1.  Anyway you cut it, they're in damn great shape.

And if they're not, Rob can always do what he suggest I do in his PM to me, which is available upon request.

Sharing PM's probably isn't the smartest thing to do - I think they ban you from Rebelscum for that.  Not to mention the fact that I have more than 1 from you that are equally inappropriate.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on October 9, 2005, 07:59 PM
Today's play of the day (this one's for you JMAC  ;) ):

(http://www.jedidefender.com/dcastle/seahawksbaby.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Mikey D on October 16, 2005, 07:02 PM
Looks like the injuries are starting to catch up to the Pats.  Too many changes in the secondary and not enough turnovers.  I still think they'll win the division, but the bye may be in jeopardy. 

On the bright side, it looks like Tedy Bruschi is coming back.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 16, 2005, 10:43 PM
I don't think the Houston Texans could possibly be any more woeful and pathetic.  They are just impotent.  They average 11 points per game only, haven't scored in a first quarter, and aren't doing a thing against the Seahawks tonight.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on October 16, 2005, 11:24 PM
I love my team and all and will for all my life but I think today is about as low as they have ever been in my lifetime

Watching Daunte play like he is doing is painful...I almost hope they lose out and draft Reggie Bush #1
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on October 16, 2005, 11:37 PM
Damn.

I wish all Seattle's games were on Sunday nights all season long.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on October 17, 2005, 11:51 AM
I love my team and all and will for all my life but I think today is about as low as they have ever been in my lifetime

Watching Daunte play like he is doing is painful...I almost hope they lose out and draft Reggie Bush #1

This team is done.  The only thing we have to look for now is next year, when we know there will be a ton of changes everywhere, hopefully for the better.  A high first rounder would be nice, too, but they need a guy who can make a difference right away.  They need a ton of help everywhere.   
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2005, 12:19 PM
Best of times/worst of times for the Bucs at the moment.  5-1 heading into  a much needed bye week with a lot of injuries piling up.  Eagerly awaiting news as to whether Griese's knee is sprained (as initially thought) or if he has a partially torn ACL (as the local papers are reporting). 

The injury report has me concerned... but the bye week is very timely.

Starting RB Cadillac Williams - foot arch
RB Michael Pittman - Neck Stinger
Starting Safety Dexter Jackson - Hamstring
Starting Safety Jermaine Phillips - Broken Thumb
Nickleback Juron Bolden - Possible Dislocated Shoulder
Starting WR Michael Clayton - Previously Dislocated Shoulder
Starting Middle Linebacker Shelton Quarles - Undisclosed Back Injury
Starting QB Brian Griese - Possible torn ACL

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 25, 2005, 04:07 PM
I'm going to claim predictions and name the first 3 teams that will definitely not be in the playoffs this year:

1.  San Francisco - sucked last year, sucked this year, never thought they'd stop sucking.

2.  Houston - BIG disappointment, they do have talent.

3.  Green Bay - Lost 2 of their top 3 WRs, and their best 2 RBs, another big disappointment. 

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Mikey D on October 25, 2005, 04:47 PM
I'm going to predict that the Colts and Steelers make the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 25, 2005, 05:29 PM
I'm going to claim predictions and name the first 3 teams that will definitely not be in the playoffs this year:

1.  San Francisco - sucked last year, sucked this year, never thought they'd stop sucking.

2.  Houston - BIG disappointment, they do have talent.

3.  Green Bay - Lost 2 of their top 3 WRs, and their best 2 RBs, another big disappointment. 

How far into your crystal ball did you have to reach to pull those ones out Ms. Cleo?

The real question is, which one of those teams gets first prize in the Matt Leinart sweepstakes.  I think Greenbay is going to throw in the towel for the season to specifically to draft Leinart.  Houston and San Fran have already drafted #1 overall QB's in the last few years.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 25, 2005, 07:00 PM


How far into your crystal ball did you have to reach to pull those ones out Ms. Cleo?



Don't make me remind you how the last prediction debate turned out for you when you called me Cleo.  That was one miserable November for you.





The real question is, which one of those teams gets first prize in the Matt Leinart sweepstakes.  I think Greenbay is going to throw in the towel for the season to specifically to draft Leinart.  Houston and San Fran have already drafted #1 overall QB's in the last few years.


I can tell you that the buzz here in NY with the miserable Jets is "Reggie Bush, Reggie Bush, Reggie Bush."
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on October 25, 2005, 10:54 PM
Why would Green Bay want Leinart when they just drafted Rogers last year?   I think Reggie is going to be the #1 pick...

I also don't the Packers are done, the NFC North sucks ass
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 25, 2005, 11:38 PM
23 teams passed on Aaron Rogers for a reason.  Odds are that Matt Leinart is going to be 20 times the QB that Rogers ever will be.  If the Packers really did get the number 1 overall pick, the could draft Leinart, beg Farve to play two more years and teach him the ropes, then try to get a second or third round pick for rodgers, and draft defense, WR, and O-line for the rest of the day - and with the first pick in each round, you could get some solid players.

The Packers need a lot of help, they're on the brink of needing a full-on re-build.  But if they can get Walker back next year and squeeze another year or two out of Ahman Green (so they can draft a RB high in '07) they could probably put together a pretty solid team the year after next.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 26, 2005, 08:39 PM

I also don't the Packers are done, the NFC North sucks ass

The Packers are D-E-A-D dead.  They are showing up with a knife to a gunfight for the rest of the season, no team can withstand losing Ahman Green and his backup Najeh Davenport plus 2 of their best 3 WRs in Javon Walker and Ferguson.  They have no weapons to utilize.

On top of that, their schedule is very hard.  Their next 5 matchups are at the Bengals, home vs. the Steelers, at the Atlanta Falcons, home vs. the Vikings, and then at the Eagles.  At the end of their next five games, their record will likely be 2-9, and I'm giving them the one win vs the Vikings who already beat them once this year.  They also finish the season against the Seahawks, football's best offense.

Lastly, the Vikings and Bears have an easier schedule the rest of the way (and already have a better record) and the Lions' schedule is also a little easier.


Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 26, 2005, 10:07 PM
With the NFC North in the shambles that it's in.  The Packers could make the playoffs, but I doubt it.  Shame too because this will most likely be Favre's last season and it would've been nicer for him to end on a higher point.

I am liking how the Giants are doing this year.  I expected a winning record from them, but I didn't expect much more with Eli only being in his first full season as starting QB.  They've had some exciting 4th quarters, where they normally didn't do too well in the past.  Hopefully, they can keep it up.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on October 26, 2005, 10:41 PM
Exactly, I've rooted against those ******* forever and they can start a season 1-4 like they did last year and still turn it around.  As much as I can't stand Farve and the media dick sucking that goes along with him, he is a hell of a leader and wills his team to win more often than not
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: sfg on October 28, 2005, 01:38 PM
Gentlemen,

I'm in a suicide pool (pick one game/week; no spread) and have narrowed my choices this week down to the following.  Of these, which do you think is most likely to win this weekend and why? 

Buccaneers over 49ers
Patriots over Bills
Cowboys over Cardinals


Thanks in advance,

 :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Mikey D on October 28, 2005, 02:14 PM
Gentlemen,

I'm in a suicide pool (pick one game/week; no spread) and have narrowed my choices this week down to the following.  Of these, which do you think is most likely to win this weekend and why? 

Buccaneers over 49ers
Patriots over Bills
Cowboys over Cardinals


Thanks in advance,

 :)

Not allowed to use the same team twice, correct?  Of those three, I'd go with the Bucs and save the Pats for later.  They have a much easier schedule the second half of the year.

Of course, I only lasted until week 5 in my league, so I obviously don't know ****.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2005, 02:17 PM
The bucs are going to destroy the Niners - #1 defense against the worst team, being led by Ken Dorsey?

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on October 28, 2005, 02:22 PM
Yeah, it'd take a huge break-down for TB to lose to the 49ers...

Then again I (much like the esteemed Mikey D) was eliminated in my work pick'em league in the 5th week, so what do I know.   :P
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2005, 02:25 PM
I should add that the Bucs have a much tougher schedule for the second half of the season with 6 divisional games, a trip to New England, and home games against Washington and Chicago.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: sfg on October 28, 2005, 03:21 PM
I agree with all of you guys.  I've had Tampa Bay slated as my pick for this week since about week 4.  But for some reason, I've got the heebie-jeebies about it.  Mostly because the 49ers are going to start Dorsey, who has much more experience than Alex Smith, and the Bucs are going with Simms, who has very little experience.  I guess I just have a nagging feeling that the Bucs could come in flat (this is a team that couldn't score more than 12 against the Testaverde-driven Jets a couple weeks ago), and this one could be a shocker.  Plus, I'm sure the vast majority of the other 11 people left are going to go with the Bucs, so an upset would be advantageous. 

It sucks because with Houston and SF this year, everyone is basically picking the same teams (whoever plays one of them), and thus you have so many left this deep in the season which, in my experience is unusual.  So it seeems like not getting caught in an upset is going to be the way to survive.

Anyway, thanks again, everyone.  I'lll probably go with Tampa.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2005, 03:47 PM
I could be wrong, but I have a good feeling that Simms is going to be just fine - local papers are saying that Cadillac Williams will be back this week as well.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on October 28, 2005, 07:34 PM
Just thought I would throw this bit of news in here.  :)

Canada fan wins $1m with 50-yard kick (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/10/28/football.kick.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 28, 2005, 08:27 PM
Just thought I would throw this bit of news in here.  :)

Canada fan wins $1m with 50-yard kick (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/10/28/football.kick.ap/index.html)

That would have been fun to watch - he missed from 20, 30 & 40 yards before hitting the 50 yarder.   8)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on October 30, 2005, 10:58 PM
Hopefully you didn't go with Tampa sfg :(

The worst season in Vikings history just hit a ne wlow today, Daunte is done for the year and maybe even his career  They said all of his ligaments are torn in his knee not to mention possible bone damage. 

Again...I'll cheer for the team until I die, but its so so hard to do this anymore :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on October 31, 2005, 10:00 AM
They said all of his ligaments are torn in his knee not to mention possible bone damage. 

It sounds like the outlook this AM is the same according to the local sport-radio show this AM. 

Man!  Not just one torn ligament, but multiple tears AND possible bone damage.   :o

Scary to think he might be done for good - it wasn't even that "Joe Thiesman-y" of a crunch.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Ryan on October 31, 2005, 01:15 PM
I was pissed I missed that fan steal the ball from Favre. I haven't even seen a replay of it yet. Oh well it'll show up online somewhere soon, if it hasn't already. :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on October 31, 2005, 01:36 PM
Jeez - sorry to hear that Scott.  It was comical up to a point with the sex cruise and all that, but something like this sucks all the fun right out of it.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on October 31, 2005, 05:11 PM
Not that it's new news, but it's official anyway:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2209391

"Culpepper sustained damage to the three major ligaments in the knee: the anterior cruciate, posterior cruciate, and medial collateral.

Coach Mike Tice said Monday that Culpepper, who was hurt on the final play of the first quarter in Sunday's 38-13 loss at Carolina, will have surgery in the coming weeks once the swelling subsides."

Definitely done for the year and he might never be the same...  :'(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Matt on October 31, 2005, 05:14 PM
Sounds like the record for interceptions thrown is thankfully safe, for yet another year. . .
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: JediMAC on October 31, 2005, 05:24 PM
Yeah, that was a nasty hit he took, and you could tell immediately he was likely done for the season.  Bad injury for a quarterback as good a runner as he is.  You're right, he may not ever be the same again.  But if he can't run as well in the future, hopefully that will help him focus on his now horrid passing game...

As for the interception record though, that may still be broken this year if Favre doesn't retire or get benched.  Good God he's horrible right now.  Hate seeing a legend end his career in such poor form - especially one that we've long been big fans of.  (shut up Brent and Scott)

As for my teams, screw them all to hell.  Rams, Raiders, Packers...  Whole buncha suck.   The Colts and Bucs are the only other two teams I marginally root for, so I guess what's left of my waning NFL enthusiasm for this season will be tossed behind those two.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Ryan on October 31, 2005, 06:49 PM

As for my teams, screw them all to hell. Rams, Raiders, Packers... Whole buncha suck. The Colts and Bucs are the only other two teams I marginally root for, so I guess what's left of my waning NFL enthusiasm for this season will be tossed behind those two.


Raiders always suck.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on October 31, 2005, 09:21 PM
The slow mo replay of that Culpepper shot to the leg was almost as hard to watch as Joe Thiesman's broken leg play.  The only good part about this is that he won't have to suffer playing through the rest of this lost year.  The whole team lacks heart and hopefully will be blown up and started over next year.  Every coach needs to go at the least. Maybe another staff will be able to get something out of these players.  It will probably be a while before they are decent again, though.  The only solace Viking fans have is that the Packers have it just as bad, but that really isn't much comfort.  I have tickets to next week's game, but I don't know if I want to go.  I will be surprised if they win 2 more games this year.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on October 31, 2005, 09:28 PM
Sounds like the record for interceptions thrown is thankfully safe, for yet another year. . .
Beth Farve is still chucking the pigskin isn't he?

I've been a Colts and Broncos guy for a while so I can cheer for them...they are at least decent
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 1, 2005, 02:34 AM
The Steelers literally were killing me tonight...  A great, close game, and the city more or less was expecting this irregardless of what the world was saying.  Baltimore hates us and us them, and it showed tonight.

I was thrilled with the play up to the half...  The O was on most of the night, and Ben had some trouble but not a lot.  They were running hard though, and really fighting for every inch they got.  The D was sorta lax at the beginning of the 2nd half and that let the Ravens take control of the game a couple times...  The completely botched punt had me mother F'n the screen though and I really thought they were going to lose this one.  The whole team came together at the end though and everyone played top-notch to seal the win, but the Ravens shouldn't have ever been underestimated like they were by the press all week...

All national news I saw was pretty saying the Steelers were going to walk all over them, and I knew that was not even an option.  It turned into a brutal hitting game, but lots of solid playing on both sides.  Fortunately our Offense really was in step short of the time between the first drive and end of the first half...  Ben's knee was hurting and it did throw him off, but he got his **** together and took it to the Ravens in the 3rd and 4th.  Nice! :)  Love MNF.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 2, 2005, 02:45 PM


"Culpepper sustained damage to the three major ligaments in the knee: the anterior cruciate, posterior cruciate, and medial collateral.



Known in therapy circles as "the terrible triad".  Ouch. I still haven't seen the hit, but now I want to.  Oh, and by the way, there's four major ligaments in the knee, they forgot the lateral collateral ligament.  It doesn't often get damaged, but you don't want to hurt it either. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on November 7, 2005, 12:04 AM
You know what makes me laugh? The friggin' media is sucking Ladanian Tomlinson's dick so hard right now... but I don't think he's the best RB in the game. They are making a big deal out of the fact that he has 15 TD's after his 4 today. Big deal. Shaun Alexander has 14, just 1 less. And he's got more rushing yards. He plays on the NFL's #1 offense. And he's playing on a team that's 6-2 and in first place. Why does he always get ignored? What makes Tomlinson so much better? Because he throws a few TD passes? Guess what? That's what the QB is for.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 7, 2005, 12:08 AM
In 5 years, LT has rushed for only 100 fewer yards than Alexander has in 6 years.  He also in 5 years has almost 1000 more yards receiving than Alexander.  TD's are about even with Alexander ahead by 10 (but with an extra year to his career).

Alexander is a great running back, but if I'm building a franchise, I'd take Tomlinson over Alexander in a heartbeat - he's also 2 years younger.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 7, 2005, 12:35 AM
Steelers spanked Greenbay.  Not a pretty win again, but the Steelers have such a banged up team right now that I let this one slide.  I was really thinking it was going to be a loss today but Batch got his **** together and Deuce came up big in the game which they needed.  Some good capitalizing on turn-overs and the black & gold rolled to another win...  Plus, doing so without Farrior, Parker (part of the game), Bettis, and Roethlisberger...  No small feat under any situation I think.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 7, 2005, 12:56 AM
I smell a disgruntled Seahawks fan :-*

I don't know how to judge between the two.  I don't have either in the pool here, but I have LT over at the spawn board and damned if I'm not pleased with him.  And while TD's may be the QB's job, boy it sure opens up a whole other avenue for scoring from a surprise standpoint when your leading rusher has more TD passes than many of the REAL QB's in the league. 

I think Dave's mad cuz Alexander's going to be somewhere else next year.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on November 7, 2005, 01:05 AM
I think Dave's mad cuz Alexander's going to be somewhere else next year.

I don't think they would be that stupid to let him go. You can't. They have a good offense, but he's obviously the main focus of it. They have to re-sign him. If they don't they might as well pack up the team and move somewhere else, because there will be rioting in the streets of Seattle.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on November 7, 2005, 01:09 AM
I smell a disgruntled Seahawks fan :-*

I almost forgot... what is there to be disgruntled about? First place, #1 offense, #1 rusher... it's a pretty good season by anyone's standards I would say. I'm not the least bit disgruntled for a change. I've been waiting patiently for a long time for this day... although it's far from over. And it ain't gonna be easy. But I think that as long as everyone stays healthy the 'Hawks have a pretty good shot at winning the NFC, at the very least. Winning the 'Big Game' is another thing altogether.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 7, 2005, 12:28 PM
I think Dave's mad cuz Alexander's going to be somewhere else next year.

I don't think they would be that stupid to let him go. You can't. They have a good offense, but he's obviously the main focus of it. They have to re-sign him. If they don't they might as well pack up the team and move somewhere else, because there will be rioting in the streets of Seattle.

My understanding is that they are nowhere near on signing a deal or meeting minds with respect to dollars.  I couldn't agree with you more, they HAVE to sign him.  But sometimes sports teams are really stupid.  Given the issues they had prior to the season and then the numbers (amazing numbers) Alexander has put up this year plus the great season the team is having I think Alexander is going to be looking for awfully big numbers.  And while I'm no real fan of sports figures making gagillions of dollars a year, Alexander deserves them as much as anyone in the NFL. 

My disgruntled comment was more in reference to the lack of a long term deal for Alexander at the moment.  I know you don't need to sign a guy during the season, but it sure would be some nice peace of mind.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on November 7, 2005, 03:49 PM
Mmmm..cheerleader catfight......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9956517/
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 7, 2005, 07:01 PM
Indeed.  The pictures will forever remain embedded in my mind.  So not only do the two hot chicks have a little trist in the bathroom of a club, but then they also get arrested and likely lost their jobs.  That's funny.  It's a win-win situation all around as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 7, 2005, 07:19 PM
Indeed.  The pictures will forever remain embedded in my mind.  So not only do the two hot chicks have a little trist in the bathroom of a club,

I gotta stop you right there.  The blonde on the left is hot, barely...but the chick on the right is a total dog. 

(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/TP10111071730.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 7, 2005, 09:30 PM
They are both dogs.  Someone on Spawn posted their Panthers website pics and they actually looked good.  Amazing what makeup can do.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 7, 2005, 10:40 PM
Those are their mugshots:

http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/

Go to the top of the page and click on Inquiries online.
Then go to Arrest Inquiries
Type in

Owen,Kristen
Keathley,Angela
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on November 7, 2005, 11:35 PM
They'll be in Playboy a few months down the road.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 8, 2005, 02:25 AM
God that was beautiful seeing the Colts hand the Pats their asses on their own field.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 8, 2005, 04:05 AM
They are both dogs.  Someone on Spawn posted their Panthers website pics and they actually looked good.  Amazing what makeup can do.

Here's Angela, she's pretty much still out of gas:

(http://www.carolinapanthers.com/photos/perm/main/MCIKCOLKIFNC/tcangela.jpg)

Here's the other one, I actually kinda dug the mugshot better:

(http://www.carolinapanthers.com/photos/perm/main/FLPGEOOGOEDL/kristen_head05.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 8, 2005, 05:37 AM


Alexander is a great running back, but if I'm building a franchise, I'd take Tomlinson over Alexander in a heartbeat - he's also 2 years younger.

Not that I'd take him before Tomlinson or Alexander, but at 25 years old, you need to throw Larry Johnson in the mix too:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051106/capt.mocr11011062225.raiders_chiefs_mocr110.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on November 8, 2005, 09:41 AM
The cheerleaders gone wild have been fired by the Panthers and removed from their website.  As I said earlier, Playboy, here they come.  They'll also most likely be guests on talk shows for a while.  I'm sure Ellen and Rosie O Donnell would love to have them.....on.  Maybe they'll even get a "reality" show.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Mikey D on November 8, 2005, 10:36 AM
God that was beautiful seeing the Colts hand the Pats their asses on their own field.   ;D

Sweet.  Only 7 more wins in a row and Peyton will have a .500 record against the Pats.

The Colts did what they had to do and I give them props for that.  But this win isn't going to mean dick if they don't get it done in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 8, 2005, 11:17 AM
They'll be in Playboy a few months down the road.

They've already been offered a spread in Penthouse.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 8, 2005, 01:00 PM


Alexander is a great running back, but if I'm building a franchise, I'd take Tomlinson over Alexander in a heartbeat - he's also 2 years younger.

Not that I'd take him before Tomlinson or Alexander, but at 25 years old, you need to throw Larry Johnson in the mix too:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051106/capt.mocr11011062225.raiders_chiefs_mocr110.jpg)

I'd have to agree with that.  I'm wondering what KC is going to do following this season (note: I don't know Holmes' contract status) given the way Johnson has performed this year.  I'd think that the sensible thing to do would be keep Johnson and trade away Priest Holmes given his age.  I think he still has several productive years left after this season so he should be able to generate some pretty serious interest. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 8, 2005, 02:00 PM


Sweet.  Only 7 more wins in a row and Peyton will have a .500 record against the Pats.




Yup, the Patriots and their fans know a lot about .500 records this season.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 9, 2005, 02:22 AM
The cheerleaders gone wild have been fired by the Panthers and removed from their website.  As I said earlier, Playboy, here they come.  They'll also most likely be guests on talk shows for a while.  I'm sure Ellen and Rosie O Donnell would love to have them.....on.  Maybe they'll even get a "reality" show.

Howard Stern was saying Monday Morning that he wanted them already for something to do on his new radio move...  They'll easily get work I'm sure.  :)

Hot as the story is, I think it's funny they got into a fight over it and hope at least one got a good slap upside the head.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2005, 01:37 PM
  I'm wondering what KC is going to do following this season (note: I don't know Holmes' contract status) given the way Johnson has performed this year.  I'd think that the sensible thing to do would be keep Johnson and trade away Priest Holmes given his age.  I think he still has several productive years left after this season so he should be able to generate some pretty serious interest. 

Uh, maybe not.  I believe my fantasy season just went in the crapper something fierce (http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=fanball-holmesmayneverplayag&prov=fanball&type=fantasy&league=nfl)  Holy snotballs. :o
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 01:52 PM
Uh, maybe not.  I believe my fantasy season just went in the crapper something fierce (http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=fanball-holmesmayneverplayag&prov=fanball&type=fantasy&league=nfl)  Holy snotballs. :o

Wow, what a horrible sounding injury.   :-\

It's definitely time to get out when 1 more routine hit may permanently cripple you...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2005, 01:56 PM
I'd suggest it's time too.  In digging a bit, the KC publicist is denying rumours it's career ending.  Might be season ending.  But I'd suggest that sort of crap is enough to retire. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jjks on November 9, 2005, 04:41 PM
While I'm not in the JD Fantasy Football, the one I'm in at work (and leading in points) has both TO and Priest. I'm suddenly feeling very vunerable  >:(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 14, 2005, 01:07 AM
Steelers handled the Brownies tonight...  STarted off rough, finished quite nicely though and it was nice to see Maddox even falling somewhat into a groove (though I'm bummed about Batch).

Cleveland Games in Pittsburgh are like we're playing the SUper Bowl.  People talk up the Ravens games and they're always big too but you can't fathom what Cleveland does when they're in town for a whipping.  On the news they said that you needed to take extra time Monday if you had a flight at Pittsburgh International because the game was actually going to cause delays on flights because people were staying Sunday who were in town just to watch the game...  taking later flights and things.  That's cool. :)

Ward had a fantastic game, and so did Batch aside from his hand...  Maddox was so-so, but was finding himself again at the end which is what he needs if he's playing next week (I thought Roethlisberger was in but I guess not).  Great game...  Lots of HARD hitting.  That was probably the most brutal game I watched all season really.  Lots of trash talking, lots of scuffles, and hits that made you think it was the 1970's all over again. :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 14, 2005, 01:34 AM
Chris Simms giving Bucs fans reason to think the season might not be over quite yet!

They're 6-3 with a tough game in Atlanta next week... I can't wait.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 14, 2005, 12:01 PM
Colts keep rolling along.  Bring on the Steelers!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2005, 12:08 AM
You're a Colts fan?

I consider myself a closet-Colts fan whenever they're not playing the Bucs.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 18, 2005, 02:07 PM
I'll verify that Jason is indeed a Colts fan.  He wandered off during C3 to the Colts merchandise store down the street and was pretty excited about the experience.  Can't verify he's not a recent bandwagon jumper though  :P ;)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Darth Broem on November 20, 2005, 05:13 PM
Da Bearzzzz win!  Da Bearzzzz win! 

What the hell?  7-3 now.  I can't believe it.  I love it but I can't believe it.  8 sacks, 2 int, and 2 fumbles.  That's a good defensivie day I wouls say :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2005, 05:35 PM
Bears and Bucs, both doing better than expected... I'm concerned that the Bears might be able to win that game next week.  Hopefully the Bucs can knock Orton around as much as the Bears knocked Delhomme around today.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2005, 11:28 PM
Can't believe the Steelers today...  And people still call for Maddox's head too which separates who knows WTF they're talking about over who knows nothing.  Maddox did what he could today for the most part and the O line just crumbled.  They played like a 3rd rate team and deserved the loss they got handed to them.  They're one of the top teams in the league without a doubt in my mind, but they just didn't come for today's game at all proving that the NFL  is just great to watch every game. :)

Steelers fans are P-I-S-S-E-D pissed...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 21, 2005, 04:05 PM
Colts game was amazing and all I saw were the highlights.  Can't believe CBS showed the Chargers/Bills blowout instead. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2005, 05:17 PM
Colts game was amazing and all I saw were the highlights.  Can't believe CBS showed the Chargers/Bills blowout instead. 

We got that game (Colts/Bengals) on the local CBS and I watched the first half...  it was nuts.

I thought for sure I was going to see an NFL record set for points.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2005, 05:21 PM
That's what you get for living in So Cal. Those of us here in the Dirrty South got the pleasure of watching Peyton vs. Palmer.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Nirvana on November 21, 2005, 06:24 PM
Can't believe the Steelers today...  And people still call for Maddox's head too which separates who knows WTF they're talking about over who knows nothing.  Maddox did what he could today for the most part and the O line just crumbled.  They played like a 3rd rate team and deserved the loss they got handed to them.  They're one of the top teams in the league without a doubt in my mind, but they just didn't come for today's game at all proving that the NFL  is just great to watch every game. :)

Steelers fans are P-I-S-S-E-D pissed...

I was pissed yesterday too. Although it's kind of funny, I was thinking as I was watching the game, I wonder if the Offensive Line is letting Maddox get sacked because of what he did in the last couple games. You're right, though. How can someone get sacked at least five times and have it be their fault?!
   Although, Maddox DID blow it for us in OT.....
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2005, 12:01 AM
He didn't help in OT, but the O line still blew, the running game didn't get **** done all game much less OT (had they punched through we'd have likely won in regulation I think), and then you could get into the Special Teams, etc...

The only solid point was our Defense was on almost all game I think...  Not that Baltimore is an Offensive powerhouse in anything but body odor, they still posed a threat that the D was handling.  Lots of great D to keep the Steelers in it but they just didn't march down field.  That OT drive was heartbreaking at best...  They should've trampled the Ravens and been well within field goal range if not all the way down tot he red zone. 

Oh, and I'm proud to say that Cowher deserves blame too...  He had Maddox running these long pass plays instead of little screens and short passes.  He's much better at those, he's proven with those, but he barely attempted any.  When he did they freaking scored!  Frustrating was the only way to describe that game and they did everything they could to lose it.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on November 22, 2005, 02:06 AM
Big win for the Vikings at Lambeau.  They pull themselves up to .500 and a decent record.  I don't know if they can pass the Bears and grab a playoff spot, though.  Johnson hasn't lit things up since taking over for Culpepper, but at least he's avoiding the critical mistakes.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 27, 2005, 08:38 PM
GOOO CHARGERS!! 7-4  8)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 08:48 PM
GO (http://www.sportscene.ca/edmonton/images/eskimos-logo.jpg) GO


Sorry, CFL Grey Cup game up here. Edmonton leading 20-18 against Montreal last quarter.  :P
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 08:57 PM
Ahhh, make that 25-20 for the bad guys!  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 27, 2005, 09:09 PM
Maybe it's time to start an official CFL thread?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 09:21 PM
Screw that, it's almost over. 28-25 for Edmonton with less than a minute to go!  :o   :o   8)   ;D
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 09:27 PM
OMFG! Overtime! First time since 1961!  :o
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 09:36 PM
Tied at 35 and still going in OT.  :o
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 27, 2005, 09:48 PM
Wild finish, congrats to the Eskies on the overtime win :o
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 09:49 PM
OMFG!  :o   :o   :o   :o   :o   :o

Edmonton Eskimos Grey Cup Champs!

Best game ever! 38-35.  8)

Thank You and I now return you to your thread!  :P   ;D

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Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 27, 2005, 09:57 PM
Congrats once again, happy to see the Lions drop the ball in the end zone I'd guess ;)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 27, 2005, 09:59 PM
Best play ever!  ;)  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rotfl.gif)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 01:07 AM
CFL?  Wha?

Kicking a beaver around or something?  :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 28, 2005, 01:15 AM
I think it's like Curling but without the ice.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 28, 2005, 01:19 AM
The ball is made from Saskatchewan Seal Skin!  :P
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 03:57 AM
nice...

If it's like curling though, you've lost my support.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: DSJ™ on November 28, 2005, 06:03 PM
Curling, now there's a sport.  ::)

Harder... harder.  :D
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Morgbug on November 28, 2005, 08:57 PM
I used to respect curling, until they took the booze and smokes off the ice.  No challenge anymore - the booze affected your judgement and the ashes from the smokes affected how the rock slid on the ice.  And they wonder why clubs are dying ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 09:27 PM
I'm thinking the Steelers should pick up Curling and just cut out the game they're in at the moment.   ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Ryan on November 28, 2005, 10:08 PM
The game is just getting started. Polamalu's pick could have been just the momentum shifter they needed. Jeff Reed's missed FG didn't help though. I really hope the Steelers can pull this one off.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 10:21 PM
The screen passes are killing me...  The returns up the middle are killing me...

our D is holding its **** together, so yay for them and Ben's getting his as we speak.  That field goal was definitely a momentum stealer though.  I'm still disappointed even though it's early, but just out of sheer frustration.  Some dumb **** has gone down early in the game on the Steelers part and the last thing they needed was a hole to dig themselves out of in this game.   :-\

Edit:

Welp, it played out like I figured pretty much...  Not that it's done, but it may as well be.  The Steelers didn't need that sloppy play at the start and it really hurt them.

After Polamalu's Int., they had momentum but the botched onsides kick + Roethlisberger's Interception took any wind in their sales away and Indy just played spot on all night.  The D for Pittsburgh played well, I'm happy with them for the most part (secondary was sloppy here and there but against the Colts I was overall pleased).  There's a number of places I lay the blame on for the Steelers tonight though...  The O line collapsing several times around Ben, Ben playing poorly at the start ("rust" is not an excuse IMO), the running game being slow at the start (but they did pick up quite a bit the rest of the game).  And penalties...  holy **** the penalties.   ::)

The Steelers dug a hole against a team they couldn't do it against, and at the half there was no hope left.  I muted the TV and did stuff online I needed to do while talking on the phone.  Steelers better get a lot of **** in the lockerroom from Cowher tonight because they need some sense knocked into them.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on November 29, 2005, 12:09 AM
So, does anyone think Indy will go the entire season without losing? 5 more games, and only 1 or 2 teams in there that I think even have half a shot at beating them.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 29, 2005, 12:53 AM
By week 13 or 14 Indy could have home field wrapped up.  If they do, they'll probably start sitting Manning and Edge and Harrison and every other starter they can to avoid any injuries from affecting their post season run.  They plan on going all the way this year and aren't going to risk any catastrophic injuries.  So, I'm guessing that they lose a game that to them will be meaningless sometime in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2005, 01:26 AM
I think, and I'm die-hard Steelers even in losing seasons for us, that Indy is pretty near unstoppable.  I think they're a better team than NE was last year, and NE I had much respect for (however I thought the Steelers COULD have dominated NE at any turn but they just didn't).

I love my team, but the Colts just look great and even when they didn't look good tonight htey still held their own.  That's the sign of a winner IMO so I think they easily could go undefeated.

I can see Rob's scenario of them resting guys too though and not taking it all, but I think they wouldn't rest EVERYONE, just select people at select times...  And if their schedule (I don't know it to say) is easy then even with people resting up they could still win... 

And in Pittsburgh we took a breath and have all moved on to the next day's challenge.  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 29, 2005, 02:12 AM
I for one hope they do go undefeated - just to get rid of those obnoxious retired Dolphins and their stupid champaign.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Nirvana on November 29, 2005, 08:57 AM
I think, and I'm die-hard Steelers even in losing seasons for us, that Indy is pretty near unstoppable.  I think they're a better team than NE was last year, and NE I had much respect for (however I thought the Steelers COULD have dominated NE at any turn but they just didn't).

I love my team, but the Colts just look great and even when they didn't look good tonight htey still held their own.  That's the sign of a winner IMO so I think they easily could go undefeated.

I can see Rob's scenario of them resting guys too though and not taking it all, but I think they wouldn't rest EVERYONE, just select people at select times...  And if their schedule (I don't know it to say) is easy then even with people resting up they could still win... 

And in Pittsburgh we took a breath and have all moved on to the next day's challenge.  ::)

The loss last night didn't bother me that much. They looked so much better than us. They're a really good team.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 29, 2005, 04:39 PM
Colts did look amazing last night.  If they keep playing that way, they are Super Bowl bound.  The only game I can see them losing is to the Seahawks cause by that time the Big 3 might be kicking back on the bench.  I hope they run the table though.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on November 29, 2005, 11:47 PM
But do you really think they would sit the "Big 3" if they are 14-0 going into Seattle? I would find that hard to believe. Same as I would find it hard to believe that Holmgren would sit any of his best players (Hasselback, Alexander) if Seattle is 12-2 or 11-3 at that point, just to rest them. If the Colts are 14-0 I would have to say that all the big guys would play just to keep the undefeated streak alive. If they happen to stumble somewhere before then, and end up 13-1 at that point, I would sit my big players. Otherwise, they are all playing until they lose a game.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on November 30, 2005, 09:33 AM
I think the Lions should have canned Millen instead of Mariucci.  How that man keeps his job is a mystery. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 30, 2005, 03:50 PM
True Dave, but they also have to look at the big picture.  16-0 is pretty irrelevant if you don't win the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on November 30, 2005, 04:06 PM
I agree with Jason, the Colts are thinking Superbowl - and they'll have a bye week, and they'll have HFA, and they'll want everyone rested, and healthy.  Having followed Tony Dungy for his years in Tampa, I'm quite confident that he's more concerned with being ready for the playoffs than regular season records.

Who knows though, maybe they'll throw the starters in for a half to keep them from getting rusty then pull them all if they build up a big lead.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 1, 2005, 03:24 PM
I guess we didn't think about the flipside: if the Seahawks rap up home field, will they rest their big guns?

Read in the LA Times sports section from Tuesday that Dungy told SportsIllustrated.com that if the Colts clinched home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, they might rest their regulars.  He was asked about that after the Steelers game, reiterated his stance but did not commit to anything.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on December 1, 2005, 08:42 PM
I guess we didn't think about the flipside: if the Seahawks rap up home field, will they rest their big guns?

I think it depends. On the one hand, if they have home field wrapped up by week 15 (when they play Indy) I would still think they would play the starters for most of the game, just to see what happens. I say that only because they did have a pretty soft schedule so far, and the last few games are not much harder with the exception of Indy. I would think that Holmgren would like the chance to see what his #1 guys can do against a decent defense like Indy. With the exception of Jacksonville, Dallas and the Giants, they haven't played a really good defense yet this season. And they lost to the Jags, and almost lost to Dallas and the Giants.

I would have said at the beginning of the season that this week's upcoming game against Philly would have been like an NFC Championship preview of sorts, but with the disarray that the Eagles are in right now I don't think it should be a tough game at all. After that, Seattle has San Fran come in, go to Tennesee, have Indy come in, and then go to Green Bay. The San Fran and GB games should be pretty much gimmes (although the last SF game was kinda close, closer than it should have been), the Tennesee game is a game they should win, and then of course it's Indy. So it's not over yet for my 'Hawks, but pretty much just beginning.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on December 1, 2005, 08:55 PM
True Dave, but they also have to look at the big picture.  16-0 is pretty irrelevant if you don't win the Super Bowl.

But is it, really? Think about this:

If Indy goes 16-0, they will be the first team EVER to go a 16 game season without losing a game. The '72 Dolphins were 14-0, they only played 14 game seasons back then. I think that winning 16 straight games during the regular season shows more domination than winning a Super Bowl. The SB can be won or lost on one stupid play, or one lucky catch, or one missed field goal. Winning 16 straight games, 8 on the road and 8 at home, is a lot more impressive than winning the Super Bowl. Of course, I know that winning the SB is what playing football is all about.

BUT...

If Indy wins the Super Bowl, they will be the 19th team to win (Green Bay x3, N Y Jets, Baltimore (Colts), Kansas City, Miami x2, Pittsburgh x4, Oakland x2, Dallas x5, San Fran x4, Washington x3, L A (Raiders), Chicago, N Y Giants x2, Denver x2, St. Louis Rams, Baltimore (Ravens), New England x3, Tampa Bay). It's not like they are going to be the first team to win, and it's not like there has been a year where there was no winner. There will always be a SB winner every year, because it's inevitable - there HAS to be one. Unless of course there is a strike or lockout or whatever. There doesn't HAVE to be a 16-0 team every year, there never has been.

I'm just saying that I personally think that going 16-0 is a more impressive record than winning the Super Bowl. I know I'm probably in the 1% of people with this thinking, and I guess I would be pretty upset if my team went 16-0 and lost in the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 2, 2005, 12:00 AM
See to me, what you do in the regular season means nothing if you don't win it all, especially if you are the favorite.  Perfect example is the '96 Red Wings.  They won a record 62 games that year and got bounced by the Avs in the Western Conference Finals.  As a result, you almost never hear that regular season record win total mentioned.  Had they won it all, you would hear them mentioned as one of the greatest teams ever.  If the Colts went 16-0, yes it's an amazing accomplishment, something never done in the NFL, but if they don't get the rings to go with it, it's a very empty and almost meaningless 16-0.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on December 2, 2005, 12:11 AM
I do agree that going 16-0 and not winning the big game sucks. And I don't think that comparing the Wings 62 wins with an undefeated season for the Colts is the same. If the Wings had gone undefeated through the season, and then lost in the playoffs, don't you think you would hear about it? The undefeated season, I mean.

Just like last year, Pittsburgh was 15-1 and got bounced. Obviously, it's not an undefeated season, but it's as close as you can get. And nobody really mentions that. But I think that a perfect 16-0 season is a tougher task then winning the Super Bowl. Like I said, I'm sure that I'm in the 1% that would think this, but what can I do?  :D
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 2, 2005, 02:54 PM
I was only comparing in the "greatest regular season ever for that league" sense.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2005, 12:04 AM
So the Steelers sucked hard Sunday afternoon...  Talk in the town is rampant about how hated Cowher is right now, and I agree he has to shoulder a lot of the blame at the moment, but at the same time the Steelers are a hurting team from the QB down to the line...

The Steelers played well in some respects Sunday but they abandoned the run, Willie Parker was a joke and he really shouldn't be their go-to guy.  I'd still be seeing what Bettis can deliver to you or Staley, and let Parker serve his purpose as a back-up.  He's not the end-all RB this team sometimes treats him like, and his fumbles just reinforced that.

Roethlisberger threw so much you almost hate to criticize him on the Int's, but at the same time they were dumbass throws that he knows better than to make and if his thumb was the cause then that just reinforces my point about dropping the running game as they did.

The D didn't look horrible given the way the game played out, but the O line failed at times, again, and mostly for the running game but Ben was on his back a bit too often.  They've needed to step it up for 3 games straight and didn't so that's disconcerting.  A lack of pressure on Cincy was disappointing from our D, but they were trying and getting him sometimes...  Our secondary was next scariest to the Oline then.

Lots and lots of talk of the Steelers not even making it...  Lots thinking in town right now that they could lose a lot of their next times, if not all of them.  The more respected voices (IMO) are saying they'll lose 1 or 2 more, but not all...  They could win all their final games if they'd get healthy and step it up though.  They can do this, just a matter if will they or not.

Good game though, just painful to watch at times and I'm sick of Cowher's post-game conferences where he acts like an indignant prick about answering the TOUGH questions he SHOULD be answering.  To me he owes some explanations, that's his job if he isn't winning, so the arrogance he's exuded these last couple games...  Like it pains him to do that press conference, so he's just gonna be short and snide.  What a peckerhead.  It pained us to watch the Steelers lose a 3rd game in a row, so to me he needs to be a little more civil.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Darth Broem on December 6, 2005, 01:55 PM
Back to the Colts topic.  I think they will sit Manning and those guys out or at least give them limited play.  I remember the Bears being 12-0 and lost to the Dolphins.  It kind of sucked for a day or two but it's nothing compared to having the Super Bowl trophy.  What gets me is when Don Shula practically lights up like a X-Mas tree about how his team beat the Bears.  Cool and all but who won the title that year?  Mmmm-hmmmm Da Bearsss. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on December 12, 2005, 12:26 PM
I would be mad if I were a Packers fan.  The Lions were screwed out of a safety and probably a win last night.  Reggie Bush might now be out of reach for them.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on December 12, 2005, 02:37 PM
Reggie Bush IS out of reach for them.  The Texans are clearly losing games on purpose (a shanked 31 yard field goal?  Come on...) in an effort to get Reggie Bush.  Even the Houston media is ripping the team for throwing games from what I hear.

What would be really interesting, is to see if the Packers would go after Matt Leinart if they end up drafting high enough.  Then they could try to trade Aaron Rogers for a second or third rounder and build around Leinart.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Clone On Fire on December 12, 2005, 05:06 PM
Reggie Bush IS out of reach for them.  The Texans are clearly losing games on purpose (a shanked 31 yard field goal?  Come on...) in an effort to get Reggie Bush.  Even the Houston media is ripping the team for throwing games from what I hear.

What would be really interesting, is to see if the Packers would go after Matt Leinart if they end up drafting high enough.  Then they could try to trade Aaron Rogers for a second or third rounder and build around Leinart.



I don't think it's fair to say the Texans are throwing games by citing a missed 31 yard field goal - you can figure that extra point attempts are missed all the time at about the same distance.  Besides Domanick Davis has been going crazy lately for that team and Andre Johnson has come back from a leg injury I think and he has been playing well.  Reggie Bush wouldn't really fit in too well with the Texans - if you ask me Domanick Davis and his backup (John something?) are pretty good, but David Carr is much more likely to be replaced at QB with say a Leinert than Davis would be at RB.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 12, 2005, 05:44 PM
Davis is good and Jonathan Wells is OK, but neither is Reggie Bush. They can draft Bush (assuming he declares for the draft) and trade Davis to start to build an offensive line.

Extra points are right around 20 yard kicks, so the 31-yarder is a bit longer. You don't see many missed from that distance and you certainly don't see many that close in that miss that badly, without any wind or snap/hold issues.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on December 12, 2005, 05:44 PM
At this point, they'd be SMART to lose the games.  They need lots of help.

And I'm only suggesting it, it's the Houston media from what I understand who's pointing the fingers.

Their season closer against the 49'ers might go down as the ugliest game in football history since each team will more than likely have a solid incentive to lose.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on December 13, 2005, 11:48 PM
Hey Matt, I just ordered one of these for myself to go with last years shirt... you want one?

(http://www.jedidefender.com/dcastle/05div.jpg)

Too bad I don't have you in the Secret Santa, I'd order an extra for you  :P
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Famine on December 17, 2005, 11:35 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=251217019

It's a beautiful thing.

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: SpudTrooper on December 18, 2005, 04:45 PM
GOOO CHARGERSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on December 18, 2005, 04:57 PM
That's a horrible thing, now we have to see those annoying ass geriatric 72 Dolphins popping a cork again on the highlights...  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on December 18, 2005, 07:58 PM
Yeah, that sucks. I really wanted to see an undefeated Colts team come into Seattle for a showdown....
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 19, 2005, 01:17 PM
Very disappointed the Colts lost but the ring is what matters, not 16-0. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Clone On Fire on December 19, 2005, 02:22 PM
Reggie Bush IS out of reach for them.  The Texans are clearly losing games on purpose

Feel free to explain their 2 TD margin win this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Darth Broem on December 19, 2005, 10:07 PM
Easy the Cardinals SUCK!!!  LOL!  I still can't believe the Bears are doing this well.  It looks like they might have a QB now that could actually help move the offense down the field fairly frequently.  If he can stay healthy that is (:
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2005, 11:18 PM
Thanks for taking that one Broem - I thought it was obvious. :)

Watching the pack on MNF makes me think that maybe the Packers want Reggie more than the Texans do though...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Nirvana on December 24, 2005, 04:01 PM
We trounced the Browns today. Go Steelers!!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Famine on December 24, 2005, 05:01 PM
Holy ****, my Giants! >:(

Not a disgraceful game, from what I caught on the radio, and was told, but damn. Damn. Damn.

Damn.

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on December 25, 2005, 02:36 AM
Did anyone else catch that freaking Bucs/Falcons game?

A normal Bucs nail biter usually takes about a year off of my life - this one took at least 5.  I'd never seen a game before where it looked like the game was 100% lost and then it looked like it would be won easily and then back and forth and back and forth like this one.

Absolutely killed me - but at least I got to be happy with the eventual outcome - with 0:15 left in OT...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Ryan on December 25, 2005, 02:43 AM
Did anyone else catch that freaking Bucs/Falcons game?

A normal Bucs nail biter usually takes about a year off of my life - this one took at least 5.  I'd never seen a game before where it looked like the game was 100% lost and then it looked like it would be won easily and then back and forth and back and forth like this one.

Absolutely killed me - but at least I got to be happy with the eventual outcome - with 0:15 left in OT...

Anyone know how long it has been since there has been a tie in the NFL?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on December 25, 2005, 02:59 AM
The Steelers simply embarassed Cleveland, and while they were taking the game seriously it seems the Brownies just didn't bring anything with them.

I'm still questionable of Parker's status as the "go-to-guy" for RB, and I still think Bettis is a better RB, but Parker had a great day today...  I think a lot more success he has is surrounded by his Oline than his own ability though, whereas Bettis made things happen himself and just had good Oline's to help him...

Just a great game, Roethlisberger was on, the receivers did quite well for the day, the D was outstanding and Porter was in his true form.  Just amazing to watch...

Great game, and now onto next week...  I just hope the Steelers keep it up.  They need that kind of intensity every week from here on out.

And once again my point stands...  The only sign of intelligent life in Cleveland is the road sign on the turnpike saying how far away Pittsburgh is. :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Nirvana on January 1, 2006, 04:49 PM
The Steelers won a close game against the Lions today. I hope we make it in the playoffs...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on January 1, 2006, 05:04 PM
Yeah the black and gold played a weak defensive game early on...  They really were letting Detroit pass the ball way too much, and between a weak showing by the secondary and no effective blitzes they had their hands full.

Offensively they did a little better and there was definitely some top special teams play going on.

Pollamallu (I know I just butchered his name's spelling) had that awesome punch that forced a turnover.  That was a pro-bowl play, and a reason that guy is a big part of the STeelers future defensively.  Just amazing play, and the kind of thing even the best in the league would envy.

Some real quality play out of the Steelers at the 2nd half when they opened it up to a 2 TD game.  I had a feeling it was locked at that point but there was really no reason for me to feel that way that I can justify it, haha.  It coulda gone badly at any moment with a fumble or int.

Fun game though and Bettis got the fans in an uproar...  If he retires the city will miss him.  I think he has a home in Georgia and would likely be there to stay I'd think.  He's a huge part of Pittsburgh sports though.  I'd put him in there with any of our sports greats really, and to me he could be effective for another season or two.  I'm hoping he comes back to do the short work for us again.

Great game, and now it's a whole new season baby!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 1, 2006, 05:11 PM
Did anyone else catch that freaking Bucs/Falcons game?

A normal Bucs nail biter usually takes about a year off of my life - this one took at least 5.  I'd never seen a game before where it looked like the game was 100% lost and then it looked like it would be won easily and then back and forth and back and forth like this one.

Absolutely killed me - but at least I got to be happy with the eventual outcome - with 0:15 left in OT...

Anyone know how long it has been since there has been a tie in the NFL?

The Steelers and Falcons tied in 2002.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on January 2, 2006, 11:47 PM
So long Mike Tice...good riddance as well.  I really hope this is a turning point of the franchise and the Vikes can regain the semi annual contender status they had for quite a while
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 3, 2006, 02:33 AM
So what's the deal with Daunte I-threw-a-thousand-TD's-last-year-but-couldn't-do-jack-this-time-around Culpepper?

Do Vikings fans want Brad I'm-ancient-but-did-win-a-Superbowl-with-Tampa Johnson to stay at center?



I'm wondering if Tice would take a job as a o-line coach down in Tampa.... I think Muir (who's supposedly one of the best in the game) has done a horrible job for the last 3 years and I'd love for the Bucs to get someone else in there.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: John C on January 3, 2006, 09:05 AM
Tice should just be an o-line coach for a few years.  He's far too inexperienced to be anything more.  He proved that during his tenure as coach.  I pray that Mr Wilf goes out and gets a promising coach who has actual successful HC experience at the NFL, CFL or NCAA levels.  I want a real o-coordinator and QB coach also.  I think Daunte's problem this year was that he was trying too hard to be the guy because Randy wasn't there.  Daunte also didn't have a QB coach or O-coordinator to hold his hand.  He needs that.  I would like to see them get Ciincy's o-coordinator if possible.  He would be able to help Daunte if he's healthy next year.  If not, I would like to see the Vikes bring in Kitna.  Brad Johnson is okay, he won't lose too many games, but he won't win a bunch, either.  Plus, he's not going to be playing much longer.  Daunte is the guy if he can play.  The Vikings also could use a GM, preferrably one that knows what he's doing.  I wonder if they could bring Jeff Diamond back?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 3, 2006, 08:31 PM
So what's the deal with Daunte I-threw-a-thousand-TD's-last-year-but-couldn't-do-jack-this-time-around Culpepper?


I gotta say Randy Moss.  And when Moss wasn't catching TD passes last year, he was drawing double coverage and allowing a better rushing attack or other peeps to catch TD passes.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on January 5, 2006, 03:25 PM
No surprise really, but Alexander is your Associated Press MVP:

Alexander easily wins MVP honors (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9146079)

I bet his agent is LOVING the fact he put all those numbers up in a contract/free agency year... since the Seahawks can't tag him with the "franchise" label again this year, he is going to get a FAT contract where ever he goes.


Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 5, 2006, 04:34 PM
Gotta also mention Caddy pulling down ROY honors the other day.

Bright days ahead in Tampa that's for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: jokabofe on January 5, 2006, 05:54 PM
he is going to get a FAT contract where ever he goes.

Hopefully, he'll stay right where he is. Although I can think of about 29 other NFL teams that would love to have him. All I can do is keep my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on January 5, 2006, 11:43 PM
Which 2 don't want him?

Looks like the Vikes will be hiring Childress outta Philly.  I hope he's learned a lot from Andy Reid :-\
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 6, 2006, 05:23 PM
Any team would want Alexander, but there are a handful of teams that are set at RB enough that they'd never fork over the money...

Namely:

San Diego and Kansas City.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Darth Broem on January 6, 2006, 05:45 PM
Urlacher - Defensive Player of the Year.  What's that about him being overated again?  :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Famine on January 8, 2006, 11:40 AM
Lets go big blue!

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Scott on January 8, 2006, 12:05 PM
Lets go big blue!

Kevin
Yeah!  Go Panthers!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2006, 12:36 PM
Hell yeah go Panthers.  The Giants are forbidden to win the Superbowl this year due to the fact that they had 9 home games - which is a sham.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2006, 02:58 PM
Well, I expected the Panthers to play well and probably win, but I didn't expect the Giants to lay a big fat egg like this.   :o
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Tracy on January 8, 2006, 03:09 PM
As a transplanted Charlottean, I have to say I am pretty proud of our little team :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2006, 03:38 PM
Enjoy it - their big prize for winning this week is a trip up to freezing Chicago to play the same Bears that kicked their asses earlier in the year.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Cory Chaos on January 8, 2006, 03:48 PM
C'mon. 13 to 3 Bears, and the 10 of their points were off of 2 INT's. I'm fairly positive it'll be a much better outing for the Panthers.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2006, 05:31 PM
I'm fairly positive that it will be a much better outing by the Bears as well.  They're rested, playing at home, and it will be cold.   But this is why they play the games.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Mikey D on January 8, 2006, 07:59 PM
I'm fairly positive that it will be a much better outing by the Bears as well.  They're rested, playing at home, and it will be cold.   But this is why they play the games.



Plus Rex Grossman, while not the second coming of Peyton Manning, is a hell of lot better than Kyle Orton.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Mikey D on January 8, 2006, 08:10 PM
Part of me wanted the Bengals to win today, because as a Pats fan, I really don't like the Steelers (but I respect them.  I really like Troy Polamamu (sp?) and think he would fit in nicely here  ;)).  But the other part of me wanted the Steelers to win so it would be Indy-Pitt and NE-Denver.  While I don't think the Steelers will win, they are going to be physical and it's been said that after you play the Steelers, you don't feel it until the following week (case in point - Pats beat the Steelers this year and then the following week get manhandled by the Chargers at home), which would just happen to be the AFC Championship game, hopefully against the Pats.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jeff on January 8, 2006, 08:40 PM
Man, I felt bad for Carson Palmer...

He had such a great year and to go out like that was just crappy.  I wonder how it would have turned out for the Steelers if he had played the whole game?  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2006, 08:41 PM
I'm fairly positive that it will be a much better outing by the Bears as well.  They're rested, playing at home, and it will be cold.   But this is why they play the games.



Plus Rex Grossman, while not the second coming of Peyton Manning, is a hell of lot better than Kyle Orton.

[oldmanvoice]Did I ever tell you fellas about the time I ran into Rex Grossman at the Post Office?[/oldmanvoice]
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 8, 2006, 10:56 PM
Steelers!!  Steelers!!  STEELERS!!!

Time to provide my wild card weekend two cents and my predictions for the divisional playoff games next week.

Redskins vs. Bucaneers:  I was anticipating a snoozefest, then thought to myself well we do have Cadillac and Galloway vs. Santana Moss and Portis.  But that didn't really work and I resigned myself to the fact that this is a snoozefest unless you're from Florida or Washington, and this was the only game I really couldn't get into.


Jaguars vs. Patriots:  No surprises here.  The Patriots D looked great.  Brady looked great.  I love how you never know who Brady is going to throw a touchdown pass to, could even be a lineman.


Giants vs. Panthers:  Justice was finally served.  All this talk about Tiki for MVP and Eli being the 2nd coming of Joe Namath was starting to make me nauseous.  DeShaun Foster was an animal, Steve Smith was great, and Delhomme was solid.  I thought the Panthers and Giants had about a 50-50 chance, but I thought this game would be much closer.


Steelers vs. Bengals:  All I can say, even though my team won, is OUCH for Carson Palmer.  That really sucks.  It didn't take away from my win though.  I LOVED that gadget play when Roethlisberger handed off to Randle El and faked the rush, drew all of the front seven and defensive secondary in to stop the run, flicked it back to Roethlisberger and threw downfield for perhaps the most wide open TD pass ever to a wide receiver.  What a beautiful first TD for Cedrick Wilson. 

 
Predictions for next week:

Seahawks vs. Redskins:  Seahawks, and probably big.

Patriots vs. Broncos: Patriots in a close one.

Panthers vs. Bears:  Cold weather, extra week rest, deep running game, I'll go with the Bears in a close one.

Colts vs. my Steelers:  Steelers baby!!  Superbowl here we come!!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 12:35 AM
Personally, I don't think it would have necesarilly meant the game goes all the other day Jeff, mostly because their backup played well for most of the first half and had his moments in the 2nd half too, and also the fact their QB went down didn't mean that their Oline needed to collapse like it did (and their backup handled pressure better than Palmer can IMO), nor did their Defense have to sorta fold on itself either.

The Steelers kinda had their **** together at the end of the first half, and into the second half you could tell they'd had a talking to in the locker room.  I think Palmer's injury was one of many things that went wrong for Cincy throughout the game, and it happened right away and they still were playing better than the Steelers were for a large part of the 1st half.  The Steelers just persevered...  So to me the injury means less, it doesn't take away from the win for the blackand gold.  That's my opinion though.

Von Hoelhoffen (I just butchered his name) was visibly upset at Palmer's injury, it was completely unintentional despite how some of the Bengals reacted...  I don't know if they were trying to build off the anger or if they genuinely didn't realize it was an accident...  That game got ugly fast from that injury though.

It was a good game...  Won similarly to the last few where the Steelers have some sloppy play at first that is turned around later in the game.  I was really thinking they weren't going to win till the last couple drives of the first half where they seemed to buckle down some.

Glad to see the Bengals going home packing.  :)  I hate Ohio.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: sfg on January 9, 2006, 11:43 AM
This thread is for NFL Regular Season.  You are all off-topic. 

Please get the conversation back on topic, or I will be forced to lock this thread.

Thank you.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 07:49 PM
Dammit, sfg strikes again.  :(

And he's right too.   >:(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:06 PM
I suppose we should start a post-season thread then to avoid any infringments on the rules...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 11:10 PM
Way to go  :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2005-06
Post by: Neal on January 10, 2006, 12:38 PM
Could you not just change the name of this thread so that it would incorporate both the regular season AND the playoffs?  Or is that a no-no?
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Darth Broem on January 10, 2006, 05:56 PM
Go Bears!!! 
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2006, 08:56 PM
Not where the ever anal  :) is concerned. 
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Scott on January 14, 2006, 02:28 PM
(http://www.wwltv.com/sports/saints/stories/L_IMAGE.f6fae7d570.93.88.fa.80.263329dc.jpg)

someone explain why anyone in their right mind would hire this guy?  He's about the worst coach around and has done nothing with any of the talent they had in New Orleans.  A career record of 45-51 and 1 playoff win.  Wow

Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Vator on January 14, 2006, 04:24 PM
So I admit, I don't really pay much attention to the NFL...except where the Carolina Panthers are involved. So in light of that, Go Panthers!
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: jokabofe on January 14, 2006, 11:33 PM
So, how about my 'Hawks playing a tough game after losing Alexander in the first half of the first quarter and still hanging on for the win? It wasn't pretty, but that's ok.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Morgbug on January 15, 2006, 03:22 PM
It's going to have to be one impressive comeback for Indy to win this one :o  Nice D in Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2006, 04:15 PM
Congratulations to the Steelers for beating the would-be Super Bowl champions, despite the best efforts of the homer refs.

God, I love upsets.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2006, 04:16 PM
Congratulations to the Steelers for beating the would-be Super Bowl champions, despite the best efforts of the homer refs.

God, I love upsets.

Uh, I think I may have spoken too soon.

Holy ****.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2006, 04:22 PM
Congratulations to the Steelers for beating the would-be Super Bowl champions, despite the best efforts of the homer refs.

God, I love upsets.

Uh, I think I may have spoken too soon.

Holy ****.

Guess I didn't speak too soon, after all.

(whew)
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Andy_R on January 15, 2006, 04:51 PM
Holy crap, what a game! 
How about that challenge overturned on that interception?
Was that ref crazy? or is there actually a technicality in the rule books about this?

Looked like a clean interception to me.  But glad to see it didn't determine the result of the game.  You'd hate to see that.

Andy
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ryan on January 15, 2006, 05:19 PM
Woo-Hoo! We get another home game in Denver! ;D

I almost would have rather seen the Broncos play in Indy, I would have loved to see them beat Indy and NE in the same year. I'm just glad both of them are out of the playoffs, I'm so sick of hearing about them.

I think the Pittsburgh and Denver game should be a very good game. Both teams have been very under-rated all year. I really hope Denver can pull it off, Pittsburgh is a great team. I do like the Steelers too, but the Broncos are always going to be my favorite.

And my favorite NFC team is doing great today. 14-0 if the fumble recovery by Peppers stands...

Nevermind, but they are still up 7-0.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 15, 2006, 05:21 PM
If it had, you'd have seen me here cursing and swearing about it then moving on to figure who I was gonna root for, haha. :)

Seriously though, what a game...  I'm slowly getting a case of the flu I believe, so I decided not to go to my woman's family event today, glad I didn't because my stomach is in 1000x worse shape now than it was this morning when I woke up and I'd be miserable "out".

I loved the game, it was played predominantly well by the Steelers and for my $.02 I think the only flaws were sloppy ref's making sloppy calls, and seemingly making their own rules up to suit them too, and Bettis fumbling the ball on the 1.  I love Bettis, but holy **** you have got to be kidding me!?  To his defense, it was a really solid helmet hit on the ball, but still where was his other hand?  COVER THE F'n BALL!  Game's on the line, final seconds, you don't do stuff like that so I hope he got that out of his system and there's no more of it...

I really was hoping for a win over Indy.  I knew we were underdogs, I knew it'd be tough, and really there wasn't a WHOLE lot of anymosity till about mid-week some really ****** stuff started leaking...  One thing was a guy from here out in Indy went to get a coffee at this coffee shop and the owner wouldn't serve him till he "Took off his Steelers crap".  I kid you not, he would not serve the guy.  That's just bull****, and childish, and the kind of stuff that actually makes you hate the other city enough that you want the win desperately.

So the Steelers played well for all of the first half, no doubt.  To the Ben naysayers I think they've been proven wrong as to what an asset he is, how well he can play, and how he too can dominate a game...  His cryptic answer walking off at the end leads me to assume his arm wasn't up to snuff after he took the helmet on it so we were forced to run.  Hell, his play after the fumble shall forever be remembered as THE play of the game.

We really did run well against a tremendously skilled defensive opponent, so I give much love to our O-Line today for opening up big holes for Parker and Bettis.  I don't think the numbers will show it necessarilly but there was some hard fought wars for a yard, or at times less.  I wish the (assumed) arm injury hadn't forced Roethlisberger to throw less though, as he was so on today it would have been fun seeing what he could've done to disect the Colts secondary into the 2nd half.

Pollamallu played tremendously, and he was robbed of an INT that would have, I believe, been the nail in the coffin.  Just my opinion though, but I really do believe that would have been it if the ref had actually not been giving himself a thorough colonoscopy.  Either way though, Pol's a class act, and the Steelers are lucky to have him.

And to the rest of the Defense, they played tremendously I felt.  Lots of sacks, and the Coordinator even said afterwards that they'd never expected to take down Manning that many times but they still did.  Porter was shining despite the announcers best efforts to take a **** on the Steelers D almost all day.

Just a heart stopper to watch for a Steelers fan...  Good football, some weird stuff to see too.

Oh, one other complaint though...  I hate the national announcers generally, but those two today were just horrible.  You'd think they had $ on the Colts the way they called it.  Sometimes I think I'd be better off turning the volume on the TV off and the volume on the radio way up.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ryan on January 15, 2006, 05:25 PM

Oh, one other complaint though...  I hate the national announcers generally, but those two today were just horrible.  You'd think they had $ on the Colts the way they called it.  Sometimes I think I'd be better off turning the volume on the TV off and the volume on the radio way up.

I've done that before. It really sucks though. There is a longer delay on the TV than the radio. So you hear what happens before you see it on TV. I wish the radio would just delay their coverage so it coincided with the TV delay. I can't stand most of the announcers on any of the networks.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Rob on January 15, 2006, 05:53 PM
As bad as I was feeling for Jerome Bettis after the fumble, I feel worse for Tony Dungy.  The knock on the poor guy in Tampa was that he couldn't win in the playoffs.  Since going to Indy he's had a world-class offense and still hasn't been able to win in the playoffs.  The team gets to 13-0 and looks like they're unstoppable and bam, his son kills himself, the team is stuck with 3 weeks of meaningless football plus a bye week and when they finally get back onto the field in a meaningful game they're obviously rusty and are matched up against a Steelers team that never budges for anything.  Another typically slow start for a Dungy coached team followed by an embarassing moment where he sends the punting unit onto the field only to be waived off by the QB.... followed by a failed comeback on a missed FG by the 'most accurate FG kicker in league history."

The poor guy is never going to hear the end of it.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2006, 06:07 PM
Oh, one other complaint though...  I hate the national announcers generally, but those two today were just horrible.  You'd think they had $ on the Colts the way they called it.  Sometimes I think I'd be better off turning the volume on the TV off and the volume on the radio way up.

I muted the game in the first quarter, and listened to my iPod for the rest of the game.  I don't need to listen to Dan Dierdorf to know what's going on.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
As bad as I was feeling for Jerome Bettis after the fumble, I feel worse for Tony Dungy.  The knock on the poor guy in Tampa was that he couldn't win in the playoffs.  Since going to Indy he's had a world-class offense and still hasn't been able to win in the playoffs.  The team gets to 13-0 and looks like they're unstoppable and bam, his son kills himself, the team is stuck with 3 weeks of meaningless football plus a bye week and when they finally get back onto the field in a meaningful game they're obviously rusty and are matched up against a Steelers team that never budges for anything.  Another typically slow start for a Dungy coached team followed by an embarassing moment where he sends the punting unit onto the field only to be waived off by the QB.... followed by a failed comeback on a missed FG by the 'most accurate FG kicker in league history."

The poor guy is never going to hear the end of it.

Couldn't agree more.  Very disappointed in seeing the Colts lose.  They had their chances though.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Sprry75 on January 15, 2006, 07:21 PM

I muted the game in the first quarter, and listened to my iPod for the rest of the game.  I don't need to listen to Dan Dierdorf to know what's going on.

When did you get an iPod?

**** the Colts, by the way.  Aside from Rosenhaus's bitch shitbombing the Eagles, the Broncos/Steelers match up for the AFC makes this the best season ever.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Darth Broem on January 15, 2006, 10:04 PM
Bears D finally stunk it up today.  Actually it was just to much Steve Smith...I guess.  Oh well it was nice to see the Bears actually make it for once.  Congrats to the Panthers.  Now it's onto watching my Cubs stink it up another year.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Nirvana on January 15, 2006, 11:02 PM
Man. That was an awesome game. I really hated the annoucers in the game, saying stuff all about the Colts and not the Steelers. Really ****** officiating, though.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Scott on January 15, 2006, 11:36 PM
All four games were good this weekend, but that Steelers-Colts game was a classic!  I was sort of pulling for the Colts only because of Dungy.  I've liked him ever since he was D Coordinator here in Minnesota.  I thought for sure dude was going to go all the way with that fumble.  I can't believe he didn't take a better angle than he did and that he let Big Ben tackle him

I thought the reffing in a lot of the games was horrible.  The Bears seemed to get a lot of calls today and the Patriots got screwed quite a bit last night

Oh well, should be two good games next week and that's all I really care right now (and that the Bears got exposed again for being a bunch of overrated media darlings).  I really think the Steelers and Panthers have a chance to knock off the home teams. 
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 16, 2006, 01:13 AM
Pittsburgh's already fired up in a tizzy...  They handled the Colts, though I'm sure I'll get to read some comments around the news (and boards) saying it was some sort of divine act that let them win, Colts were better, blah blah blah...  At this point, that's what being a Steelers fan is all about I guess.  You're not allowed to enjoy hard play, you're always just somehow "lucky" till you lose, then you were beat somehow by skill and a fantastically better team.  It never fails, and I doubt it will this week either.

I had a great time watching the game if not for feeling sick all day and the game's gut-wrenching theatrics making me feel worse with every play.  It was insane...  I'm just glad that the Steelers brought their A game, they backed up their thoughts that they can take anyone...   The Colts didn't play bad I don't think, not the whole game at least, and no more than we did at times, so it really felt great to get a solid win in on a solid team.  I'd likely be rooting for Indy right now if it had gone the other way...  Then again I'd likely have rooted for Cincy too if that had gone differently.  I'm glad we've got at least one more week though, and the city's pumped.  You can just feel it everywhere around here and that just makes the atmosphere around here fun. 

If the Steelers had lost today, I would have felt horrible for Bettis...  For him to have his last play (likely) of his career be that, it'd have been horrible for him, and he's as nice a guy as they come...  He's an asset to Pittsburgh.  I guess Ward told him on the sidelines that they weren't gonna let him go out like that...  Not that I can think of what Ward had planned...  :)  Still it was nice.  They really put Bettis on a pedastool for being a great person, not just a player, and rightfully so.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt on January 16, 2006, 02:23 AM
When did you get an iPod?

Yeah, I don't think I've mentioned it anywhere, but I finally joined the ranks of the iPod Generation not too long ago.  It's neat.

---

And the much-awaited Manning vs. Manning match-up is, believe it or not, still on for Super Bowl Sunday.  They've already got a big game of touch scheduled during the halftime show at Archie's house.  I'm going with Eli.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2006, 11:37 AM
Jesse.  I'd like to announce that from here on out I'll be on the Steeler's bandwagon.  Now that Dungy's out, I'd like to see Cowher get over the AFCC hump and get himself a ring - same for Bettis.

Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 16, 2006, 11:58 AM
Had Harper cut to the sideline, he takes it to the house.  Colts had their opportunities and did not cash them in but IMO they were lucky to be even have that opportunity at the end since the refs blew that call on the Polamalu pick.  Steelers just played a better game but I thought it was kind of an ugly game all around.  I don't bandwagon, I always have my reasons for rooting for the teams I root for, and I'm pulling for Bettis to get his ring just like I did with Bourque and Andreychuk.  You hate to see any great retire without a ring.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Mikey D on January 16, 2006, 12:15 PM
All good things come to an end.  You can't turn the ball over five times and expect to win against anybody, let alone a quality playoff team.   Denver played better and deserved to go on.   But I have faith that the Pats will regroup in the off season and will be competing again next year.

I'll admit, I thought that the Steelers had no shot (but would keep it close), but damn.  That was one excellent game play they came up with.  I thought Porter was an idiot for running his mouth, but he actually backed it up.  Kudos to them.  As for the Colts, something needs to change.  They have all the talent in the world and just can't get it done.  I guess the first change is a new kicker.  Oh and speaking of Vanderjaqt, lose the one earring, it's so early 90s.  Pierce the other one or go with none at all.  You look like an idiot.

I'll agree with those who talked of horrible officiating this weekend.  Some of the calls were beyond bad.  Phantom PI on the Pats, PI on the Colts that wasn't called, an overturn of a clear interception, the list goes on.  I hope something is done about it for next year.  

Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 16, 2006, 03:18 PM
Yeah, so much for the best officials getting the playoff jobs.  Man it's been bad all over the league.

As for the Colts, they have some talent on D, but they need more vicious guys that scare people.  They also need secondary help.  Maybe some changes have to be made on the O-line cause they looked just as bad Sunday as they did against San Diego.  Damn shame to see them lose.  I thought this was their year.    :(
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Andy_R on January 16, 2006, 04:27 PM
There is no bandwagon for me; born and raised in Seattle, I have been a Seahawks fan all my life. 
There is nothing I would like to see more than a Championship for this city. 
It gives me chills just thinking about it!   
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 16, 2006, 07:03 PM
The NFL officially rescinded (not that it matters) that Interception call the refs said was an incompletion instead.  So that's at least vindication and Porter won't get fined for saying what he did in the locker room about the reffing of that game.

I'm not a fan of complaining about officiating, but the weekend was bad overall.  In the Steelers Colts game there was a pass interference call against I think Randle El that wasn't called but was right in front of an official, and he was staring at them plainly in the replay, and just opted not to call it...  Clear as day that he just made a decision to skip that.  There were facemasks on both teams (it seemed) that weren't called.  And of course there's the "let's make up our own rules" call on Pollamallu for his interception.  Just total bull****...  Oh and then there's the "false start, no wait, offsides...  no, wait, nothing, nevermind" call too...  The announcers said it was Fannaca, I think it was offsides though and Fannaca didn't move enough for a call against him...  I dunno.  What a mess.

I'm glad to hear more Steelers fans are emerging.  :)  Nice...

Anyway, here's something I thought was sad during the Colts game...  They were trying a "Terrible Towel" thing to support their team...  I mean, granted the Steelers don't have a patent on waving a towel but it seems lame to me to copy something that was started long ago here and wasn't done by other teams till just recently.  Just a little aside I had.

Oh, and POrter can talk allt he **** he wants if he's gonna produce. :)  He's a good player, and our only one that actually trash talks.  I don't know why, it fires him up I guess, but it's not a Steelers thing generally...  The organization generally stays quiet but Porter likes the trash talk, so more power to him I guess.  A lot don't care for that I know, but he doesn't seem to pull others into it...  And he did back it up.  Lots of hard sacks by Porter in that game.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: jokabofe on January 16, 2006, 10:27 PM
There is no bandwagon for me; born and raised in Seattle, I have been a Seahawks fan all my life. 
There is nothing I would like to see more than a Championship for this city. 
It gives me chills just thinking about it!   

Finally, someone else at this site with some brains  :D

I wasn't born and/or raised in Seattle, but I've been a fan since around '83 or so. I've been waiting a long time (a long, long time) for a playoff win... over 20 years as a matter of fact. I just hope we can take Carolina out. Won't be easy, but I think we can do it.

Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Morgbug on January 16, 2006, 11:19 PM
I work with a guy that is a huge Seahawks fan as well.  He's been giving me the long time line as well.  He has really ****** luck.  Don't hold your breath :-X :P
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Scott on January 17, 2006, 12:49 AM
Well, for my two cents I am going to back up what I said yesterday and predict Super Bowl XL will be Carolina vs Pittsburgh with the Steelers winning the whole thing. 

They have it all, great D, great QB, great Running Game and a Great Coach.  They got bit by the injury bug and are finally healthy. 
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2006, 01:07 AM
We got one more week to get through...  The fans are confident in a win, but reserved, so nobody's getting too cocky...  neither will I, but I'm supporting the team I have since I was a baby.  When your old man worked in a mill...   When his old man worked in a mill...  When HIS old man worked in a mill...  And when you've put some time in that same mill...  You support the Steelers!

HERE WE GO STEELERS!  HERE WE GO!
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt Carroll on January 17, 2006, 10:37 AM
Need to check in here to make sure the board doesn't tip too much to the Steelers side.  ;)

Go Broncos!

Needless to say, the Broncos are going to have to find a way to run the ball better than they did against the Pats.

It'll be interesting to see how many Steelers fans find their way into Invesco Field on Sunday. I went to the Broncos-Steelers game a couple of years back and had never seen so many vistors fans throughout the stadium at a Broncos game.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 17, 2006, 11:40 AM
Faneca did flinch.  It was clearly a false start, yet another blown call in a weekend full of them.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Andy_R on January 18, 2006, 10:48 PM
There is no bandwagon for me; born and raised in Seattle, I have been a Seahawks fan all my life. 
There is nothing I would like to see more than a Championship for this city. 
It gives me chills just thinking about it!   

Finally, someone else at this site with some brains  :D

I wasn't born and/or raised in Seattle, but I've been a fan since around '83 or so. I've been waiting a long time (a long, long time) for a playoff win... over 20 years as a matter of fact. I just hope we can take Carolina out. Won't be easy, but I think we can do it.



Hey jokabofe!  Good to hear from you! 
This city is ready to explode if the Hawks can take home the gold.  Between our 3 sports teams, we have had NOTHING to cheer about for the last 25 years. 
Everyone is ready!  Bring on the Panthers! 
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2006, 04:52 PM

Between our 3 sports teams, we have had NOTHING to cheer about for the last 25 years. 
Everyone is ready!  Bring on the Panthers! 


25 years?  Isn't it longer than that or did someone win something since the Sonics won the championship back in the 70s (or was it the 80s?)?
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 07:56 PM
Watchin' the news, this guy in Denver who moved there from here got his car keyed the other day I guess.  Classy.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2006, 10:34 PM
Watchin' the news, this guy in Denver who moved there from here got his car keyed the other day I guess.  Classy.

Don't judge the whole city based on that. We do have a few real dumbasses like that here, but for the most part most of the fans are respectful.  :-[
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2006, 02:32 AM
I'm sure Ryan, it's just that something equally annoying happened in Indy to a Steelers fan...  People take stuff way too seriously.  The guy's mad but he said he won't stop supporting his team, so he's moving on.

When the Pats were in Pittsburgh they were treated well here...  Pats fans were welcomed...  It was nice.  In Indy last week though I've heard that the Colts fans were picking fights, throwing objects at Steelers fans and that there was a number of people told to take things off their car showing Steelers support or that they'd come back to a messed up car after the game. 

Just dumb **** like that is firing up people here.  It starts making you mad...  I guess it was so ugly last week that neither city's mayor was really wanting to do a bet with the other like they're doing this week.  At least that's the rumor I'd heard.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ryan on January 22, 2006, 05:41 AM
I gotta get this in one last time before gametime:

 GO BRONCOS!

(http://images.ewoss.com/MSimages/DXS10809270230.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Matt Carroll on January 22, 2006, 11:46 AM
I second what Ryan had to say - wanted to stop in before I started to get ready to head down to Mile High to say

Go Broncos!!!  :D
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Vator on January 22, 2006, 12:40 PM
Well, someone has to say it: Go Panthers!
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Nirvana on January 22, 2006, 03:46 PM
TOUCHDOWN STEELERS! Beginning of 2nd quarter, 10-0
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 22, 2006, 04:00 PM
GO STEELERS

GO STEELERS

(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=jerome+bettis/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=11sp87rh7/EXP=1138049741/*-http%3A//www.steelertribute.com/bus005.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Nirvana on January 22, 2006, 07:21 PM
That was one of the best played games this season. I really liked it. I really don't like the Bronco's coach, he looks like a rat. I was getting really annoyed when our defensive line couldn't sack Plummer.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jesse James on January 22, 2006, 07:42 PM
HERE WE GO STEELERS!  HERE WE GO!

Great game in Denver (Sorry Ryan and Matt), and really fun to watch...  I think Plummer's gonna take a lot of slack out you guys' way but he really was on at times in the game, had some great scrambles...  I hope the city isn't too down on him, but that's football and QB's take a hit after any loss.

The base is going to his garage...  :)  I love it.

For Steelers fans this is so huge...  This city needs this.  People are out lighting fireworks off still, there was borderline rioting downtown...  It's just insane.  It's a good time to be a Steelers fan, and now I just hope they win it all.  I was happy with beating Indy and Cincy...  I've always had my faith in the team but those two you felt like it couldn't get any higher, and now it is...  I love my Steelers, I love this city, and I hope they bring Bettis home a champion because that man's too good a person not to get it at this point. 

I feel like I'm on something right now, this is great. :)
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ryan on January 22, 2006, 07:50 PM
That was one of the best played games this season. I really liked it. I really don't like the Bronco's coach, he looks like a rat. I was getting really annoyed when our defensive line couldn't sack Plummer.

And it was easily one of the worst for us. Our defense refused to play today. The pass coverage was AWFUL. It seemed like everytime Pitts. threw the ball it was a first down. The Broncos weren't playing with enough urgency in the 4th either, it looked like Pittsburgh was going to give them a chance, but the just didn't want it. The stopped the rush fine but were useless against the pass, they gave the recievers such a big cushion. I got a bad feeling after the first drive when that fumble was overturned, and what should have been a pick by Bailey was a first down for Pittsburgh.

And my second favorite NFL team is sucking right now too. Hopefully Carolina can turn it around and as I was typing Smith just had a sweet kick return. :D

Well I hope Bettis and Cowher can win the big one, they deserve it. I'm pulling for him unless Carolina makes it in.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ryan on January 22, 2006, 07:54 PM


Great game in Denver (Sorry Ryan and Matt), and really fun to watch...  I think Plummer's gonna take a lot of slack out you guys' way but he really was on at times in the game, had some great scrambles...  I hope the city isn't too down on him, but that's football and QB's take a hit after any loss.


I can't stand how everyone always get on Plummer, he played a decent game, the picks were certainly not some of his better decisions, but he didn't lose that game by himself. Jake played excellent this year, the entire team flopped today, not just him.

And Jesse, as good as you feel, imagine the opposite, that's how I'm doing right now. :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Reid on January 22, 2006, 08:02 PM
STEELERS ARE GOING TO DETROIT BABY!!!!!

Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Scott on January 22, 2006, 08:05 PM
I just think the Broncos caught the hottest team in Football and that's all there is to it. 

Looks like right now they might be playing the Seahawks which will be a great game but I really have to give the edge no matter who they play to Pittsburgh, they are going to be big favorites
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 22, 2006, 08:15 PM
SOON TO BE SUPERBOWL CHAMPION PITTSBURGH STEELERS BABY WHOOOO!!!!! 

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060123/capt.afc14501230005.afc_championship_football_afc145.jpg)

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060122/capt.afc13301222319.afc_championship_football_afc133.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: GeneralBelIblis on January 22, 2006, 08:32 PM
big ben is a beast! the wheels on the bus go round and round round and round ... looks like im gonna be cheering for the steelers in the super bowl cause carolina aint goin.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2006, 09:49 PM
Steelers/Seahawks...

I'll be pulling for the Steelers still - but it looks like it could go either way.

Regardless, the two best teams are clearly left standing.

Big Ben is 26 - 4 as a starter.  That is beyond sick.
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: jokabofe on January 22, 2006, 10:12 PM
(http://www.seahawks.com/superbowl/splash/left.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2005-06 (Now with Playoffs!)
Post by: Jeff on January 22, 2006, 10:51 PM
Steelers/Seahawks...

So, the big winner is the NFL because they get an East Coast and a West Coast team.  Marketing gurus with Superbowl ad time are rejoicing!   :P

Seriously though, I'll have to stay out of choosing a winner.

If I endorse Pittsburgh, then Dave gets mad at me and forgets to share any sweet Toy Fair loot he gets next month.  If I endorse Seattle, then Jesse gets mad at me and have you seen him mad?  He gets all frothy and what-not.

Guess I'll just watch the game and enjoy it for the commercials...  :P
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2006, 12:00 AM
Frothy?

****y YOU!!!!!!!111!!!!   >:(   >:(  >:(   :-*

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And Jesse, as good as you feel, imagine the opposite, that's how I'm doing right now.

Flashback to about this same time of year last year when we had one of the dominant teams in the NFL, #1 seed, and lost to the Patriots. :)  Believe me, I know Ryan, I know all too well...  It just feels great to win, move on...  THis team needs a champion in the worst way.

I hold no ill will to anyone wanting to support the Steelers, I just remember we weren't given a chance by ANYONE in the sports world and it's fun watching some of these guys eat crow.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Scott on January 23, 2006, 12:08 AM
While watching the Seahawks-Panthers game today I had bad, bad flashbacks to 1999

(http://espn.starwave.com/i/page2/photos/040518anderson.jpg)

Not sure why but I thinks its because the home team was handing it to the visitors and was on their way to the Super Bowl.  Then Brown missed a kick right near halftime.  Looking back, the Broncos would have killed the Vikes in the Super Bowl anyway, John Randle got hurt and Robert Smith was also done for the year.  Damn them, damn them all to hell :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on January 23, 2006, 12:14 AM
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I just remember we weren't given a chance by ANYONE in the sports world and it's fun watching some of these guys eat crow

I hear ya on that one Jesse, and the same can pretty much be said about Seattle. I sit and watch ESPN every Sunday since the season started before the 1:00 games start, and I hear all this jibber jabber about all of these teams, and all of these guys, week in and week out. And all I hear about is LT is the greatest RB of all time, and he's the best, and Peyton Manning this and that...

And then they come up to a preview of the Seattle game for the week, and it's like "Seattle is hosting San Fran... blah blah blah. 30 seconds of air time, and... we're done. Now back to talking about Ladanian Tomlinson". And it makes me sick.

Now look at what's going on... where's LT? Sitting at home, watching the Super Bowl on TV (no doubt in HD on his 70" Plasma screen, but I digress) - with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brian Urlacher, Tiki Barber, and all the rest of the guys that ESPN loves to talk about. While the NFL MVP (and TD record breaker, I might add) along with several other Pro Bowl First Team Starters will be in Detroit, playing the Steelers for the Super Bowl Trophy. So take that ESPN, Sporting News, Sports Illustrated, CBS Sportsline, and everybody else who overlooked the #1 offense in all of Football in 2005.

 :P
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Andy_R on January 23, 2006, 03:12 AM
Right you are jokabofe! 

This city is absolutely ecstatic right now!!  What a great feeling to finally have our team in the big game!!

I am at a loss for words.  It's just amazing. 
So this is what it feels like to go to the Super Bowl!

Andy
"Thrilled in Seattle"

edited for grammar
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on January 23, 2006, 09:05 AM
I think the thing that scares me the most right now about the SB is the refs. I just hope the outcome of the game isn't decided by a bull**** call, or on a non-call that should have been. In last night's game, the Steve Smith flag did deserve to be picked up, because that really wasn't a penalty. However, if you look back to the first quarter, there was a very similar penalty called against Seattle that wasn't picked up. Granted, it didn't bring back a TD runback, but still... if you're gonna call a fair game, I think the penalty against Carolina should have stood. Makes me wonder if the referee conference didn't go a little something like this:

"So what's up?"
"He blocked him in the back..."
"Was it a bad block, really bad?"
"No, it wasn't that hard, and I think he tried to stop..."
"Man, Carolina is getting whupped... we should just overturn it and give them a chance. If we take away the TD, who knows what kind of tantrum Steve Smith is going to have on the sideline..."
"Yeah, you're right."

Now, I'm sure that's not really what happened... but you get the point. I just hope the refs in Detroit and gonna call a good game...  :-X
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on January 23, 2006, 11:01 AM
Right you are jokabofe! 

This city is absolutely ecstatic right now!!  What a great feeling to finally have our team in the big game!!

I am at a loss for words.  It's just amazing. 
So this is what it feels like to go to the Superowl!

Andy
"Thrilled in Seattle"

Welcome to Tampa, 2002.  Very similar situations.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 23, 2006, 11:58 AM
Congrats Dave on your team reaching the big game for the 1st time.  I think this Super Bowl is gonna be a great game. 
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Darth Broem on January 23, 2006, 06:00 PM
I "think" they are both evenly matched.  But Pittsburgh is red hot right now and have demonstrated that they can beat anyone anywhere and luckily will not have to play Seatle in Seatle.  So, I give Pitt the edge. 
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Matt Carroll on January 26, 2006, 10:51 AM
Ugh, I just finally got the cojones to make my way back into this thread.  :(
I was really impressed with the Steelers - they certainly deserve it after the way they've been playing the last month or two. A number of the fans around us at Mile High were really hard on Jake, but the Broncos got down and essentially became a drop-back passing team, which isn't their offense. Oh well, there's always next year...

Anyways, time to revert to the rule of cheering on the AFC team in the Super Bowl (except in the years where the Raiders are in the SB, of course  ;D).
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Scott on February 4, 2006, 12:16 AM
OCB's Super Bowl XL Prediction

Pittsburgh Steelers 34
Seattle Seahawks 17
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 4, 2006, 12:45 AM
I'm rooting for Seattle (obviously) and I think they can win. If they don't win, I'd still  be happy if Joey Porter breaks his neck on the first play of the game (or gets hurt in any way, shape or form, at any other point during the game, for making stupid remarks about wanting to go out and hurt players on the opposing team. If the only way your team can win is by taking out the other teams best players (see: Carson Palmer) then your team sucks. End of story).

Seattle 28
Pittsburgh 17
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Matt on February 4, 2006, 12:52 AM
If the only way your team can win is by taking out the other teams best players (see: Carson Palmer) then your team sucks. End of story).

I wonder how much Indianapolis and Denver think Pittsburgh sucks.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 4, 2006, 01:24 AM
Ben Rothlisberger is something like 27-4-1 as a starter in the NFL.

That is absolutely sick.   Either he's the next Dan Marino, or the Steelers have a hell of a team surrounding him.  If they can beat up on the Colts on the road there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to stop the Seahawks at a neutral site.

Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jesse James on February 4, 2006, 02:34 AM
To Porter's defense, he only said ANYTHING after a Seattle player talked some **** on Bettis which, given Bettis is a special guy on and off the field, didn't sit well with anyone in Pittsburgh...  Porter's just the only guy who says anything on our team, haha...

Personally, I'm not a fan of talking trash, but that's what gets some guys fired up.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Reid on February 5, 2006, 11:20 AM
5 hours from kickoff...
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 5, 2006, 12:05 PM
To Porter's defense, he only said ANYTHING after a Seattle player talked some **** on Bettis which, given Bettis is a special guy on and off the field, didn't sit well with anyone in Pittsburgh... 

Right. And what Stevens said was "It's going to be a sad day when Bettis leaves Detroit without the trophy".

And that makes it alright for Porter to start talking about taking guys out, and hurting people? What is Stevens supposed to say? "I like Bettis and I think the Steelers are going to win" ?? Give me a break. Every player on both sides of the ball thinks that their team is going to win.

Not to mention that even if your game plan is to go out and try to take out the best players from the other side, you shouldn't say that to the media. Pretty ******* stupid if you ask me.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Reid on February 5, 2006, 03:33 PM
3 hours 'til kickoff...
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Reid on February 5, 2006, 06:00 PM
30 minutes til' kickoff...
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Nirvana on February 5, 2006, 08:04 PM
Well, it's halftime, and for a while, it wasn't going very well. We're only up by 4, let's hope we get our act together in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Reid on February 5, 2006, 10:08 PM
PITTSBURGH STEELERS, SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

Final score: Seahwaks 10, Steelers 21.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: MetalJedi on February 5, 2006, 10:34 PM
PITTSBURGH STEELERS, SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

Final score: Seahwaks 10, Steelers 21.

Damn Skippy!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 5, 2006, 10:47 PM
I think the thing that scares me the most right now about the SB is the refs.

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I just hope the refs in Detroit and gonna call a good game...  :-X

Looks like I didn't hope hard enough. No one here can tell me that the game was called fairly. It's obvious that the refs were pulling in Shittsburgh's Pittsburgh's favor.

Offense pass interference against D-Jack? C'mon. Gimme a break. And there is no ******* way in hell that ball broke the plane of the goalline. Not by a cunthair.

It's tough to win a game when you're playing 16 on 11.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ryan on February 5, 2006, 10:55 PM
I think the thing that scares me the most right now about the SB is the refs.

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I just hope the refs in Detroit and gonna call a good game...  :-X

Looks like I didn't hope hard enough. No one here can tell me that the game was called fairly. It's obvious that the refs were pulling in Shittsburgh's Pittsburgh's favor.

Offense pass interference against D-Jack? C'mon. Gimme a break. And there is no ******* way in hell that ball broke the plane of the goalline. Not by a cunthair.

It's tough to win a game when you're playing 16 on 11.

There were some bad calls but the Seahawks made some terrible plays themelves. Like missing 2 field goals, Stevens dropping 3 or 4 balls and the debacle at the end of the first half, and the second for that matter. There were crappy calls both ways most did go against Seattle though.

It sure does seem like you have to pay your dues and lose a Super Bowl before you can win one. Maybe Seattle can come back next year. Their division won't be getting much better, so they've got a chance.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Scott on February 5, 2006, 11:15 PM
Jackson did push off in my unbiased opinion

The TD call was really iffy, the tip of the ball only need to touch the front of the goaline and to me there wasn't enough evidence to prove either way.  The ref should not have called that a TD

Seahawks were horrible running the clock though and I have to say that has always always been a Holmgren problem
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Reid on February 5, 2006, 11:23 PM
And there is no ******* way in hell that ball broke the plane of the goalline. Not by a cunthair.

 

Even if the TD wasn't counted Pittsburgh still would've won.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 5, 2006, 11:24 PM
I'm not saying Seattle played their best game of the season. And I'm not even saying that they should have won. All I'm saying is that the NFL needs to step in and do something about the officiating across the board. It just seems like this entire season was filled with bad calls that stood, or good calls that were overturned. It was a mess, the entire season, for every team. Something the NFL as a whole needs to address for next season.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 5, 2006, 11:25 PM
Even if the TD wasn't counted Pittsburgh still would've won.

How can you say that? If Seattle had held on, and put up a goalline stand, it may have turned the momentum their way. That was 3rd down play if I'm not mistaken, and the D had already stopped them on 1st down and 2nd down.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ryan on February 5, 2006, 11:44 PM
Even if the TD wasn't counted Pittsburgh still would've won.

How can you say that? If Seattle had held on, and put up a goalline stand, it may have turned the momentum their way. That was 3rd down play if I'm not mistaken, and the D had already stopped them on 1st down and 2nd down.

Dave's right, taking away one touchdown does more than take away 7 points. It can completely shift the momentum of the game and lead to a whole new outcome.

Jackson did push off in my unbiased opinion

The TD call was really iffy, the tip of the ball only need to touch the front of the goaline and to me there wasn't enough evidence to prove either way. The ref should not have called that a TD

Seahawks were horrible running the clock though and I have to say that has always always been a Holmgren problem

I'm going to have to agree with the Jackson call myself. There was no reason for him to put his hand on the DB, he could have made that catch without the little push off. It may have been a little pushoff but a pushoff it was.

I don't personally think Roethlesiburger crossed the line but, the party I was at was split down the middle, it was a VERY close call.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Morgbug on February 6, 2006, 12:03 AM
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I'm going to have to agree with the Jackson call myself. There was no reason for him to put his hand on the DB, he could have made that catch without the little push off. It may have been a little pushoff but a pushoff it was.

I'm here too.  I do think it was a lame call, the DB had given up.  But no contact and you have a TD.  Any contact and you have a panicky penalty call. 

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The TD call was really iffy, the tip of the ball only need to touch the front of the goaline and to me there wasn't enough evidence to prove either way.  The ref should not have called that a TD

I'm here on this one as well.  Looked to me like Roethlisberger was down, then shoveled the ball forward.  If that ball broke the plane before he was down, why'd he move it forward?  And even when he did, and you could clearly see him do that, he barely got it over the line, so how could it have broken the plane in the first place. 

I'll say Pittsburgh played well enough to win though. 
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 6, 2006, 12:08 AM
STEELERS BABY!!!!

Now as for the 2 main points:

1.  The Darrell Jackson call was fair in my opinion, he did push off.  The kicker is, I don't think he really had to.  It's tough to say, but I think he may have scored without pushing off. 

2.  I do think Roethlisberger broke the plane of the goal line with the front edge of the ball.  It was close, but I too think he got it.

I gotta add how cool it was for Bettis to retire in front of the crowd and his coach at the same time, standing there in his hometown a Super Bowl Champion.  It doesn't get any better than that.

 :D
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 6, 2006, 12:16 AM
Oh yeah, I almost forgot: calling a blocking below the knees penalty on Hasselbeck as he's trying to make a tackle?? WTF?? Just one more bad call (and another 15 yards) to add to the rest.

Like I said, I'm not saying the 'hawks played well enough to win. Even without those calls, they might have lost anyway. But you just never know. All the BS calls against them certainly had to take a little wind out of their sails, and get them down on themselves.

And not for nothing, those little tiny push offs happen routinely throughout the entire season. And they never get called. I'm sure none of the Steeler receivers pushed off at all throughout the game.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2006, 12:19 AM
You haven't watched enough Randy Moss games, that guy gets called for pushing off when he farts on a DB
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 6, 2006, 12:22 AM
And now time to chronicle the biggest plays of the game for the NEW Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh STEELERS!!



Tylenol for the headaches Willie Parker cause for the Seahawks defense, $4.

Detergent to remove the grass stain from the post-score tumble, $10.

Diving into the end zone for no apparent reason to complete a 75 yard TD run, the longest run in the history of the Super Bowl...PRICELESS

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060206/capt.sb32402060140.super_bowl_football_sb324.jpg)


It's all about breaking the plane:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060206/capt.sb29302060114.super_bowl_football_sb293.jpg)


Gotta love starting the season as a training camp no show holding out for more money, only to end up catching the dagger TD pass in the Super Bowl:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060206/capt.sb26802060049.super_bowl_football_sb268.jpg)

And finally, the BUS!!!

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060205/capt.sb11202052056.super_bowl_football_sb112.jpg)

(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2006/0205/photo/g_bettisward_412.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 12:24 AM
Jackson did push off in my unbiased opinion

Plain as day.

Also, during the replays I thought the ball crossed the line.  My girlfriend thought it didn't - either way there wasn't indisputable evidence enough to overturn it.

Seattle got some bad breaks, but it's not like the refs forced Hassleback to throw key interceptions.  It's also not like the refs forced the Seahawks into letting Willie Parker run untouched 75 yards to paydirt.  It's also not like the refs made the Seahawks miss a few field goals leaving them down by multiple scores at the end of the game instead of down by 8 or even 5...

The Seahawks had their chances - end of story.


Also, did anyone notice Mike Holmgren didn't go meet Cowher out at midfield?  Madden and Michaels were oblivious to it but when they kept showing those shots of Cowher looking around right after everyone flooded the field they kept saying crap like "he's just taking in this moment".   He wasn't.  He was looking for Holmgren - you could hear him say at one point "where's Mike?"

Holmgren snapped at Suzy at the half, and didn't bother going out to shake hands with Cowher after the game - absolutely classesless.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 6, 2006, 12:29 AM



Also, did anyone notice Mike Holmgren didn't go meet Cowher out at midfield?  Madden and Michaels were oblivious to it but when they kept showing those shots of Cowher looking around right after everyone flooded the field they kept saying crap like "he's just taking in this moment".   He wasn't.  He was looking for Holmgren - you could hear him say at one point "where's Mike?"

Holmgren snapped at Suzy at the half, and didn't bother going out to shake hands with Cowher after the game - absolutely classesless.




Was this before the game started?


(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/spo/med/2006/02/ipt/1139179527.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 12:31 AM
I'm not sure - it's entirely possible that they found eachother eventually and that I just idnd't see it on the broadcast.  But usually after a loss the other coach isn't all smiles when he greets the winner.  I think that might be beforehand because Cowher was soaking wet at the end after getting doused with Gatorade.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2006, 01:08 AM
First, I'm ecstatic.   ;D  This has been a LONG time coming in Pittsburgh, and the city is in a freaking frenzy right now.  Tons of celebrating obviously, only 8 arrests the news said, and no real rioting or anything but just good heavy celebrating.

The game was a rollercoaster...  My stomach's eaten to bits at the moment I think.  I gotta get some Pepto.  :)  Seriously though, this was fun, I'm glad it's over, I'm gonna maybe make the rally downtown (or "DahnTahn" as they say here) on Tuesday...  I thought the game was really good in a competitive way on both team's parts, but at the same time I thought both teams played below their potential on some levels and at their potential on others.  In that way it evened out and that's what made it competitive...  Nobody was mistake-free tonight though, and believe me I was Mother F'n the television a number of times. 

I'm happy as a clam right now, I'm loving this...  The last champion we had was the 92 Penguins team and god knows they're not near that this year.  The Pirates have sucked since about the same time too and haven't won a championship in as long or longer than the Steelers.  So this was nice...  It was also nice that they won again because my dad was a Steel Worker all his life, and a die-hard fan for the Steelers, so I'm glad for him since I know it's a good time for him.

Also the fans in the city are just loving this, it's insane...  Plus guys like Myron Cope (Long-time Steelers announcer who just retired due to failing health) has got to be loving this...  This is f'n great.

Now we just need to keep the Penguins here.   ::)

On the specifics, I'm not going to disagree that officiating in the NFL is sporatic at best Dave, but I do disagree that both plays cited were bad calls.

Jackson pushed off because if you watch his defender's feet, they're both off the ground yet he still moves backwards while leaning towards Jackson...  It wasn't a BIG push, but a push nonetheless by my eyes...

On the Roethlisberger run, I thought it was a TD by watching him in the air in slow...  The rule is he just has to have the ball on the line in any capacity, not over it, and when he's in the air it looks like it to me, and that he's hit and pushed back away from the line...  It was close, but I'm trying to be unbiased in my opinion as hard as that is and I still think it was a TD...  That will be examined and re-examined for a long time I think though.

There were holds and stuff on both sides though that were not called or were iffy calls...  It wasn't the greatest officiated SB, but the playoffs have been a trainwreck this year with officiating so I'm not surprised, and if anything I think it was better than the Pats got in their loss and the Steelers had with Cincy.

As far as Porter's comments, I'll have to go look back if I can and find the quotes.  I don't recall him saying he was gonna hurt people but then again I don't think Porter's shown that he's a "dirty" player either for any quote he made to be considered that way either.  If he said, "I'm taking (Seattle Player's Name) knees out, that's it" or some asinine stuff...  Yeah, that's dumb, but you also don't go into football saying that you're gonna lay the other team down softly when you takcle them...  I think Porter did what he always does, which is talk ****.  The irony is POrter wasn't a big issue in the game today.  He was part of the D overall but not a shining example by any means...  It was all a non-issue and some say around here that it was even perpetuated in an attempt to draw media off Roethlisberger who looked visibly scared prior to the game's start today and who said he has never been so shaken and nervous...  Either way it was a very much non-issue anyway.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Cory Chaos on February 6, 2006, 01:12 AM

Was this before the game started?


(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/spo/med/2006/02/ipt/1139179527.jpg)

Yep. Bill's dry, and not wearing a hat.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 01:17 AM
First, I'm ecstatic.   ;D  This has been a LONG time coming in Pittsburgh,

Given that the Steelers just won their fifth and the Seahawks hadn't ever been to a Superbowl, I'd say that your opening comment was pretty harsh. :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2006, 02:50 AM
Well I didn't say it wasn't coming a while for the Hawks too, but bare in mind we've had a team a LOT longer too I believe. ;)

Of course though I meant that the Steelers have just been working their asses off, so for us it has been a long time coming...  Gotta figure guys like Bettis have really deserved a championship and just never gotten it...  Cowher's been judged all his career on this factor and now it'll be tough to do so...  It's a long time coming for damn near any team that gets it though, that's for sure.  Short of the Pats right now anyway. :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2006, 10:09 AM
It's hard for me to even really comment on the game. It was about what I expected. The sergical percision of the Sea Hawks verses the brute force of the Steelers.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Matt on February 6, 2006, 10:12 AM
For anyone wondering where Joe Montana was during the whole "former SB MVP" thing before the game:

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According to a source familiar with Montana's situation, the former three-time MVP asked that he be guaranteed $100,000 in appearance money during his time at the Super Bowl. The league could not accommodate that request, so Montana declined to be in attendance.

What a dick.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jeff on February 6, 2006, 10:27 AM
For anyone wondering where Joe Montana was during the whole "former SB MVP" thing before the game

Huh.  I wondered where he was with practically everyone else being there.  If that whole money deal is true, that's pretty stupid...


As for the game, I watched it off and on.  I thought that D-Jack did push off, but I also thought that the ball never crossed the line on that first half TD.  Oh yeah, and I thought the Seahawks got jobbed on Hasselback's "block" - I thought it was pretty clear he was making a pathetic QB tackle attempt.   :-\

I'll grant that there were a few bad calls that might have hurt Seattle's chances and shifted the momentum, but Seattle did plenty of things to themselves too - false starts on key drives, a ton of dropped passes in the 1st half, missed FGs, and the clock management. 

As Scott said, we saw that a lot from Holmgren during big Packer games (the only guy to manage the clock worse was Denny  :P)  - that "drive" at the end of the first half was just ugly.  They should have had enough time for a shot at the end zone or at least an easy 3pts, but the way they handled it was just ugly and strange.

And honestly, the Steelers were pretty much just as bad in the first half - no first downs in the 1st quarter?  3-and-out on the first 3 drives?  Ugly.  They managed to come around thanks to that 1st half TD and really got rolling and confidence up after the 75yd TD Run.

Overall, I think there were some bad calls that went the Steelers way, but even without those calls it just looked the Holmgren was just out-coached by Cowher in the end...
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 11:24 AM
For anyone wondering where Joe Montana was during the whole "former SB MVP" thing before the game:

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According to a source familiar with Montana's situation, the former three-time MVP asked that he be guaranteed $100,000 in appearance money during his time at the Super Bowl. The league could not accommodate that request, so Montana declined to be in attendance.

What a dick.

Terry Bradshaw apparently did the same thing.  With the whole Steeler conneciton I'd think he'd be willing to just come on out and wave to the crowd...
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Matt on February 6, 2006, 11:40 AM
Bradshaw was just being his usual flakey self, for whatever reason.

Two MVP QBs to be no-shows (http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-spmvps054614898feb05,0,4885382.story?coll=ny-football-headlines)

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Former 49ers quarterback Joe Montana and former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw have decided to remain home. Bradshaw has told league officials that he wants to be with his family, even though his former team is in Super Bowl XL. Montana apparently was unwilling to come because the price wasn't right.

Why he wouldn't want to come out to the Super Bowl, in front of a largely-pro-Steelers crowd, with several of his old teammates, is beyond me. 

So, who knows why.  Hopefully it didn't have anything to do with money.  That's beyond lame.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 12:16 PM
Very very very lame.  Even if it didn't have to do with money you'd freaking think that Terry Bradshaw - Steelers Superbowl Legend of all people would want to take his family with him to watch the Steelers play in the freaking Superbowl.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Nicklab on February 6, 2006, 04:39 PM
For anyone wondering where Joe Montana was during the whole "former SB MVP" thing before the game:

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According to a source familiar with Montana's situation, the former three-time MVP asked that he be guaranteed $100,000 in appearance money during his time at the Super Bowl. The league could not accommodate that request, so Montana declined to be in attendance.

What a dick.

I think anyone who's watched the NFL closely over the last 15 years or so has to be well aware of Joe Montana's absence from the game.  Whether it's some kind of involvement in an organization (either coaching or in the front office), as a commentator on TV, or events like this, Joe Montana has had a very low profile.  A lot of it has to do with money.  Joe Montana thinks he's worth a LOT of money.

Fact is, the guy has been something of a jerk throughout his career and afterward.  Sure he wanted to win, but it's always been all about him.  He's been through several marriages and some ugly divorces, all laced with a lot of rumored infedelity.  He's supposedly a very private guy, but I think there's just too much dirt and he wants to lay low and do his own thing.  In the mix he does appearances and autograph sessions that are very expensive.

Thing is, other NFL players have bowed out of high profile events like this.  When the NFL organized a reunion of the Baltimore Colts and the NY Giants palyers who were involved in the 1958 NFL Championship game (otherwise known as the greatest game ever), Colts QB Johnny Unitas bowed out.  He cited an autograph appearance that was more lucrative and it was unspoken that the NFL didn't want to match that offer.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Darth Broem on February 6, 2006, 05:37 PM
Oh well the NFL tried to have a nice moment.  At least the majority of them did show up.  Yeah, unfortunately some guys get a really big head on their shoulders.  They never really had a normal life like most people.  From a young age they have been told they are great and have had a lot of success.  People around them say the same thing and it just kind of snowballs into this monster ego that nobody is ever going to break them out of.  They can not do anything wrong and think they are worth every single penny that they ask for.  Everyone else is beneath them.  Sad but true.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 05:40 PM
Fed Ex must have ponied up big time to get Joe out for those lame commercials.  (Lame except for that kick-ass Derrick Brooks one...)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 7, 2006, 11:17 AM
Here's a great article (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5310192) from an unbiased point of view.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 7, 2006, 11:53 AM
My unbiased point of view:

Factors key to game-

Seahawks receivers- looked alot like 2004 seahags receivers-catch the damn ball
-lotsa dropped passes just before big hits-it's the super bowl-you gotta catch those. Also-see the receivers-don't-know-where-they-are-on-the-field sideline plays. IMO- Hassel played great the receivers didn't hold up their end of the bargain

Referees-officiating  
-call for touchdown steelers on goal line--I believe it's legit-the ball only need break the plane(can be the front of the line). I see the nose of the ball break the front of the line by a couple inches when the quarterback is high before he comes to the ground.
-penalty for offensive pass interference in end zone. I think it's a legit call that should not have been made in the superbowl. I see it on both players but... the WR straightens his arm on the last push and the refs sees that-however the ref didn't see  that the push had NO impact on the DB-if he did he wouldn't have thrown the flag. Too touchy to throw a flag.
- holding penalty that negated long running play....horrible-O lineman's arms were inside defensive line man-a legal block

Seahag's special teams- horrendous...and don't tell me "they were long kicks" either. Those guys practice those all the time- believe me they were long enough just hooked or WAY off mark. Biggest concern on the long attempts are distance and blocks--which there was no danger of in this game. Why is it I see so many kickers in this league missing short on long attempts or getting blocked? this was horrible for the Seahags-losing 6 points that were really important.

I felt before the game that the sehawks would lose because this game had sort of a road feel to it and the 'hawks didn't impress me on the road this year at all. Barely winning games(in san fran by 2 for example) on the road or losing on the road badly so it was a predictable outcome for me. I was impressed by Seattle's quarterback play but not much from anything else from the team.

I felt the steelers had enough gadget plays to win this which was good since it appeared they got a good chunk of their "offense" from them and that Seattle was not prepared for that(which really sucks since EVERYONE knows Pitts is a gadget team). For the defense mostly looking good in the game Seattle was badly burned on 2 gadgets. I'll say that from looking good all year Roths looked horrible and it was a sloppy pitts win. While I'm glad for Jerome and the Coach I'm sure this game will be near the bottom of favorite superbowl matchups of all time.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 7, 2006, 12:13 PM
Here's a great article (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5310192) from an unbiased point of view.

I don't think there's a such thing as an "unbiased" point of view.  You either like the Steelers more, or the Seahawks more.

I don't care what this author says, Darrell Jackson planted his hand on the defender's chest and pushed off.  Pass interference, end of story.

As for Roethlisberger, yup, could have gone either way.  Very very close call there.  We may be talking about sixteenths of inches in the distance that the ball missed or crossed the goal line. 

But I do think it's really lame for Seahawks fans to start blaming the refs for not winning the Super Bowl.  The Steelers flat out beat them down.  I saw that poll on what people will remember most about the Super Bowl, and here's my list:

- Willie Parker's TD run
- Jerome Bettis finally winning
- The Gadget Play to Hines Ward!  God, I love those.
- And then, somewhere after all that, some people whining about the officiating, including the close call on Roethlisberger's touchdown which could have easily gone either way
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Morgbug on February 7, 2006, 12:47 PM



I don't care what this author says, Darrell Jackson planted his hand on the defender's chest and pushed off.  Pass interference, end of story.


My only point of contention here is that the ref didn't call jack **** until the ball had been caught and the defender got in his face to whine.  It was a late call that responded to some player complaining and that's crap. 

The contact was there, minimal or not.  Call what you SEE not what you're told happened.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 7, 2006, 12:56 PM
It's just that I look at that replay and see clear as day that Darrell Jackson put his hand on the defender's chest and pushed off.

I just don't know how this play can be used to fuel a Seahawks fan's argument that they got screwed by officials. 

The contact happened, it was called, and the refs were right.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2006, 08:45 PM
And you can read an equally unbiased story here (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9213999) as well.  Cable posted a nice fan-footage shot of the QB Keeper TD by Roethlisberger too, and it makes it even clearer that it was in fact a Touch Down.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: jokabofe on February 7, 2006, 11:25 PM
But I do think it's really lame for Seahawks fans to start blaming the refs for not winning the Super Bowl.

I think it's really funny that you think that. If it was Pittsburgh on the other end of those calls, the national guard would have had to invade Pittsburgh to stop the rioting and looting in the streets.

And I continue to find it amusing how many Steelers avatars have popped up over the last two weeks. More than I've seen in the last two years. And now that number has about doubled over the last two days.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2006, 11:43 PM
Oh come on Dave, you know I don't use an Avatar anyway so I'm using one because this is a special time to me so it's hardly worth complaining about.  This was the most watched SB since the 1996 one when we were there...  There's just a lot of Steelers fans I think around the country is all.

I'm not gonna run with this all year, I don't use avatars, I just wanted it for now because I'm celebrating...

As far as bad calls, I'm sure there'd be some complaining from us if this was a total reversal...  I know there were complaints throughout the playoffs because there was bad officiating in a lot of Steelers games, so we're not immune to seeing it "that way", but the difference is the NFL admitted (at least in one game) that it was the case...    Right Here (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5314440) though the NFL isn't saying that, and stands behind the officiating whether it was good or not...  And I'm not even gonna say it was good because there was the low block call I thought was BS, the "phantom hold" as I've heard it called is dubious I think and there were holds against the Steelers that weren't called a number of times...  The big issues I believe were called right but that's my point of view...  Others disagree and that's fine but nobody who's disagreeing is wanting to admit that the Seahawks played like ****, and that no matter what the calls came out to be there's no way saying it would have changed the game's outcome.  At this point it's old, and it just stinks of sour grapes to me and I'm disappointed at that.

The city's great, and the fans here support the team tremendously so it's not really fair to dump on a city I've grown up in and really do love being here as if they're nothing but violent thugs if this game had gone the other way.  We lost the AFC Championship to the Pats and as I recall there was complaint about calls in that game, and how the national media treated the Steelers, but at the end of the day the fans accepted the loss and we looked forward to next year...  Some tried to make a lame argument saying "Well we could've won if this or that didn't happen", but at the end of the day I look at that as nothing but BS and not taking the loss and dealing with it... 

At this point nobody's opinion of what was a right or wrong call is going to change...  I think the Steelers earned the victory, I thought the two biggest calls in question were right ones, but at this point I'm done arguing with Seahawks fans who say it wasn't...  I just am going to enjoy this victory, I'm going to relish the moment, and I'm done with the pissing match with the hawks fans because I know for a fact I would NOT be doing that to them because I just don't play it that way.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Nicklab on February 8, 2006, 10:45 PM



I don't care what this author says, Darrell Jackson planted his hand on the defender's chest and pushed off.  Pass interference, end of story.


My only point of contention here is that the ref didn't call jack **** until the ball had been caught and the defender got in his face to whine.  It was a late call that responded to some player complaining and that's crap. 

The contact was there, minimal or not.  Call what you SEE not what you're told happened.

The best comment of all on Darrell Jackson's OPI call?  I hate to say it, but it was from ESPN's Michael Irvin of Dallas Cowboys fame.  His claim to fame?  The fact that he pushed off more DB's than probably any other receiver in the game.  The man knows that move.  He perfected it.  And he said that Darrell Jackson's OPI call was bunk and that he (Irvin) got away with much worse.  The only reason that penalty got called is because it was (1) in the Super Bowl, i.e. super-scrutinized, and (2) because it happened right in front of an official.  Otherwise the TD would've stood.

Oh, and this is coming from a Giants fan.  I have no vested interest in the game other than being a football fan.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 8, 2006, 11:18 PM
I'm not sure - it's entirely possible that they found eachother eventually and that I just idnd't see it on the broadcast.  But usually after a loss the other coach isn't all smiles when he greets the winner.  I think that might be beforehand because Cowher was soaking wet at the end after getting doused with Gatorade.

This from foxsports.com:

"Coaches Bill Cowher and Mike Holmgren met before Super Bowl XL (pictured) but didn't shake hands on the field after the game. Apparently confusion about which 25-yard line they were supposed to meet at caused the missed opportunity. Cowher went to one, while Holmgren went to the other."
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jedi Idej on February 9, 2006, 02:53 PM
Holmgren/Cowher - Heard on the radio (but couldn't find any article to back it up) that Holmgren found and congratulated Cowher in the tunnel under the stands.

Montana - Not sure if his telephone interview cleared up the mess or changed peoples minds. His 2 divorces and 3rd marriage aside, his story meshes with what I've heard about the guy.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 9, 2006, 03:41 PM
Whether you like the guy or not..Montana was one of the greatest football players of all time, played games with a bad back, cracked ribs for many years in his career and many folks have stated it's one guy they would've wanted on their team. It's relevant if you don't like him since you really wouldn't want somebody you thought was a **** whipping your ass on the field if he was on the other team.

Must have been a lightswitch between football games and any other time. Heard nothing but good comments from his teammates from the kind of teammate he was.

I feel like some of the past quarterbacks didn't deserve MVP of SB awards but I think Joe's were justified.

I could be partial since the 49ers ARE my team but there's been classless/arrogant players on the team in the past that I hated IE.. R. Watters, D. Sanders, T. Owens, B. Romanowski

At least Joe left it on the field- no ridiculous me me me me TD dances or arrogant trash talking before and after games..no talk to the media like I'm the greatest ever(see list above).

So he said it off field that he wants more money? That that's why he didnt show?
If he won more than one MVP than why can't he ask for more? What, the NFL feels they can pay him the same as everyone else and save some (IMO at that level) cheap dollars at the same time by not paying for a couple of SB MVP payouts because it's the same guy? I'm not jealous/hating him for it, he can do what he wants in that aspect.

If the NFL paid the right deserved amount for their MVP's than these 2 guys would have showed. To me the NFL looks bad for this, not those players. Sorry, I don't belive Bradshaw's answer-to me it sounded political-as much as he talks about "my team" still when he's in the broadcast booth I don't for 1 second believe that's why he didn't show ::). Joe's answer, if true could be him just being honest. I feel Bradshaw deserved more money too but I feel he lied for reasons to not even attend a Steeler's Super Bowl game..come on, really ::)

I really don't see anything wrong with players of multi MVP awards asking for more money than players who only got 1. I do however see the Payers for being cheap bastards for not forking up the extra cash and trying to save because it was "per person/not per MVP award". What a stupid pregame show that was since they didn't >:(

Sorry, if I hogged the thread, hate me if you must...

Go 49ers/only SB team with 5 victories AND undefeated Super bowl record 
Title: Re: Super Bowl XL Pittsburgh vs Seattle
Post by: Jedi Idej on February 9, 2006, 04:12 PM
So he said it off field that he wants more money? That that's why he didnt show?
If he won more than one MVP than why can't he ask for more? What, the NFL feels they can pay him the same as everyone else and save some (IMO at that level) cheap dollars at the same time by not paying for a couple of SB MVP payouts because it's the same guy? I'm not jealous/hating him for it, he can do what he wants in that aspect.

I believe that money shouldn't play a part for these type of NFL ceremonies. These guys made their fame and their living from the NFL. As a fan, I think they should help promote it. And being a 49er fan, and having heard only positive things about Montana (unlike most other super athletes that have negative and positive stories about them circulating), I was floored when the story broke about Montana wanting $100,000.

But in his conversation with Stephen A. Smith, he denied asking for the money. He had been in Detroit promoting a drug he uses to control his high blood pressure and went home on Friday so he could be home to watch his sons play their games on Friday and Saturday.

It would have been nice to see Montana at the SB, but I can't fault him for wanting to be with his family.