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Title: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Brian on September 19, 2006, 10:43 AM
This is stemming a bit out of some of the posts in the "future of" thread.  It seems like more and more people are stopping collecting the basic (Hasbro) figure line, cutting back, or maybe thinking about one or the other.  I was curious to hear some of your thoughts on this.  Have you already given it up, or cut back considerably?  Are you thinking about it?  Or, is there a specific point in the line (or maybe a specific figure or figures) that would be the point of "ok, I've got what I want now" and call it quits.  With more and more people opting for the higher end stuff all the time, I'm curious how much life the line has in it.  It sounds like next year could be a bigger year with toys based on this upcoming video game and/or cartoon, as well as some nice figures that we got a glimpse of at Comic Con - but things do seem to be slowing down overall.  Are you at the point where you feel you are "almost done", or maybe you've already passed this point....or maybe you are in it for the long haul.  How do you feel about the line, and your personal collecting in the future.  What is driving you away (feel complete, other collectibles, or just tired of collecting in general)?

Personally, I think I'll always collect the basic figure line in some capacity.  It is starting to get the point where there might not be a whole lot of all-new figures that I necessarily "need", since we really are getting some background characters at this point.  Of course, I'll pick them up if/when they get made - but I don't know that I need them to feel complete.  A lot of the figures I look forward to now are what are essentially resculpts - whether it be in the VTSC line or in the regular basic line.  New figures are nice too of course, and I always look forward to those.  I've always leaned a little more towards the OT, so when you take out the nice PT clones/Jedi that could be on the way, there might not be a whole lot left to do (as far as all-new characters) in the OT.  At least not to the point that it could drive a line.  The background stuff is great, but after a couple of years they could have much of that covered as well.  Anyways, I'd likely be in this in some capacity til the end (as long as it wasn't all repacks) - but I could see cutting back more and more.  I like the high end stuff as well, and would collect it more if I could afford it, but its always started with the action figures for me - it would be tough to give those up.
Title: Re: Giving Up the Basic Line: Have You/Could You?
Post by: Jeff on September 19, 2006, 10:53 AM
I may not be a "buy two of everything" kind of guy anymore, but I will continue to buy Hasbro stuff until the day it ends. 

Whether they are new or repacks or repaints or re-hashes or kit-bashes or whatever, I'll still get in line to buy one carded for my carded figure collection.  I've come this far, why not stick it out to the end?   :-[
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 19, 2006, 11:54 AM
I certainly could, but haven't had to thus far. As long as I have room to stash the figures and the money to keep buying them, I'll still be going for a while. If I ever did have to cut back, I would concentrate on OT and Imperials armies.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Paul on September 19, 2006, 02:24 PM
If I ever did have to cut back, I would concentrate on OT and Imperials armies.

This is what I have done since the beginning of the re-launch.  Except for a brief experimentation with ROTS stuff (I opened them, but I never inhaled), it has pretty much been OT and OT Army builders.  I will even buy a re-paint/re-package if it is a substantial improvement over the previous release.  Except for the frustration of finding the stuff, I am content with the basic line. I am an opener, so I don't have the storage, display and variation problems that alot of the Carded guys have.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2006, 02:56 PM
I've made concessions in areas like Deluxe, Vehicles, Beasts and Playsets over the years...  I haven't bailed on the basic line though, however I do not collect carded so I avoid repacks galore, and I don't feel I need EVERY paint variant of a figure (though I did get a number of OTC Paint variants like the Sandperson and Jawas due to the army builder-ness of them).

I doubt I'd give up the line short of some emergency in my life, however that I'd probably still come back after I'd taken care of my other responsibilities.  I can only see a financial crisis as my ultimate killing of my collecting. 

I'm not big into anything else though, and only pick up a thing here and there...  Like ornaments, or some miniature type stuff, or even books/comics.  I'm just not much of a Star Wars collector I guess. :)
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Artoo on September 19, 2006, 06:28 PM
I don't think I will, well until Hasbro makes the basics 20 bucks a figure. ::)
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Kit on September 20, 2006, 02:28 AM
Basic figures would be hard to give up.  Unless the whole basic line turns into G.I.JOE a la 1994 neon color/crappy figure land.  I have asked myself on a few occasions, "When is it gonna be enough?"  As I stand in my toy room admiring my collection and realizing that this room is one of my favorite parts of the house, I know the end will be a long while.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Dan on September 20, 2006, 07:27 AM
I will probably continue in some capacity, but I have cut back considerably. I am an opener with some carded (the OTC, store exclusives,  and select saga figures) in there as well.
I am an army builder, and can't help getting imperials when they are out on the shelves. But I am trying to limit my other purchases to figures I really like. This usually means OT, and something that is a big improvement over the last version, or is new altogether. But I am a sucker for clones as well.
I'm one of the frequent ramblers in the other thread Brian mentioned (the future of star wars collecting), so if I am redundant, please accept my apologies. As much as I love the star wars figures and ships, I find too many of them are simply "things I own in a box somewhere." I really want them out filling in a scene, so that if I show a non-star wars collector one of my cabinets, they can go "wow, I remember that scene."
So my collection is starting to move toward things that fit with the scenes I will display. Death Star, Hoth, Dagobah, Cantina, Jabba's palace, the Clone Wars cartoon collection, Lars Homestead, etc etc etc. If they can find a home in one of these, there is a pretty good chance I will get it. If not, I most likely pass. The naboo wave is almost a complete pass, although I will hope to find a couple of endor grunts on sale come christmas time.

Kubricks have become my new plastic-fume-high source.

So I will buy figures here and there, and hope Hasbro comes around and makes a few dirorama type environments that will help showcase the figures that keep my kids in the public education system.   
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Darth Broem on September 20, 2006, 01:56 PM
I will not give them up totally.   I am especially tempted by the never before made figures (like Moff Jerjerrod) or ones that they remake from the vintage line like Chief Chirpa.   The resculpted versions of characters like AT-AT Driver, Gunner, Garindan.  Even though they are superior to the older ones at this point I really debate on whether I will get them or not.  Some of those examples I bought anyway.  But now it's a debate for me....rather than Hell Yes it's on the pegs I must get it now!!!!  I let them sit on the pegs instead of initially buying the first one I see.  It may be a long while before I get them or I just do not at all.  I certainly won't be buying the rehashed or repackaged stuff like Kitik, Devaronian, etc.  Some figure that just don't interest me at all I won't get either like say Lushros Dofine (sorry Nute!) and some others. 

Plus I skip some anymore for the simple fact that I got so many damn figures now it's nauseating.  That and they have made about every character I could possible want already anyway.  There really is not that much more I'd probably buy.  Well there could be but I doubt they ever make the figures I'm thinking about.  I am looking forward to stuff like Biggs Academy, McQuarrie figures if they look decent, Hermi Odle, Kashyyyk Trooper, Galactic Marine, and Parajai Trooper.   But my enthusiasm for them has tapered lately.  I may snap out of it though. 
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Rune Haako on September 20, 2006, 03:44 PM
No
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Roton7 on September 20, 2006, 10:27 PM
If it came down to money problems later in life, then yes, I could quit. But no way on Earth could I just randomly quit collecting.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Ben on September 21, 2006, 01:47 AM
Damn, I've tried and tried to quit. I managed to quit smoking once, but I can't seem to give up hunting and buying these little pieces of plastic crack.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: P-Siddy on September 21, 2006, 08:44 PM
It's possible I could. I already just buy the figures I'm interested in and forget about the one's I don't like. Somedays, the search takes its toll and I think it's not worth it. Plus, I've got a wife who disapproves of my habit. And it's tiring trying to sneak things by her.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: RichardTheBloody on September 21, 2006, 11:31 PM
I have given it up, more or less...the only 3.75 inch figures i've bought this year were the AT-AT driver and the VTSC Biker Scout. I could have cried the other day though. Both TRUs in town restocked within 2 days of each other...snow, sand, and scout troopers and Cantina wave figures all over the place...That Endor AT-AT looks sweet though, same with the Shuttle whenever it comes out. Almost makes me glad i've gone over to the 12 inch Figures...that way i don't have any cash (or room really :D) for the figures AND vehicles LOL.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Artoo on September 22, 2006, 09:30 PM
When Hasbro starts coming out with non- SWsy colors for the whole line, I'll give it up.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Gatillo on September 22, 2006, 09:31 PM
I currently buy less than 50% of the figure release in the Bsiac line.  At this rate in 3 or 4 years I expect that Hasbro will not be able to get a penny from me. :'(
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: nitro on September 22, 2006, 10:02 PM
I gave up on collecting Hasbro SW stuff back when Phantom Menace came out. I actually made my first Hasbro purchase tonight, I picked up a Cheif Chirpa tonight because it's in scale with my Kubrick SW collection and looks pretty good in contrast. If Hasbro churns out more Ewoks/Jawas in that size I'll pick 'em up...but until then, I'll keep on what I've been collecting.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Artoo on September 22, 2006, 10:45 PM
Actually Ewoks are planned for next year, hopefully the size of Chirpa.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: nitro on September 23, 2006, 02:32 AM
Actually Ewoks are planned for next year, hopefully the size of Chirpa.

nice, i'm looking forward to them if they ever get released. i'd complain about spending $7 on an ewok for the size and lack of accessories, but i figure it's cheaper than most kubricks out there (and is in exact scale which is pretty nifty).......
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2006, 07:01 AM
When Hasbro starts coming out with non- SWsy colors for the whole line, I'll give it up.
So, January then?  ;)
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Ryan on September 24, 2006, 05:43 AM
When Hasbro starts coming out with non- SWsy colors for the whole line, I'll give it up.

We are already getting there...

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(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Exclusives/Darth_Vader_-_Lava_Reflection_%28Target%29/rots_lava_f.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2006/Hasbro/DSC09843.jpg)

Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Gatillo on September 24, 2006, 11:57 AM
Is it just me or is Hasbro doing to Star Wars what they did to the 80's GI Joe line?

Clearly they have been doing it to vehicles for a while but now they are clearly doing it to figures too.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: roron corobb on September 27, 2006, 12:32 AM
I have cut back on my collecting. I don't buy vehicles any more other than the few exceptions, but overall if they are not to scale IMO I don't buy. The basic line is about the same, with only getting the figures I think are an improvement and/or new with some repaints if they’re cool looking. Other than that repacks can peg warm and vehicles can go to the kiddies ;). I have even cut out the multi-packs if nothing in the pack is new, cool looking, or I could customize with them.

Conclusion: Hasbro as been getting less out of me these days and if it continues I could stop all together.
roron corobb
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Oboewan on September 27, 2006, 03:38 PM
Between SAGA, OTC-post OTC, Heros, and 30th anniversary, my collecting of the 3 3/4 line is coming to an end.   Not stopping altogether yet- but buying only those characters that haven't been produced before (cantina/ Jabba aliens for example) and the occasional (as mentioned earlier in the thread) remake of an existing figure if the sculpt is a vast improvement.   I'll continue to focus mainly on the LEGO and Sideshow 12" lines and pick and choose what basic figs, if any, I'll purchase.   I'll probably continue to pick up the exclusives but beyond that- just new sculpts.

I'm totally not thrilled with the current EU lineup of figures- C'Mon Hasbro.. give us some NEW characters for EU.. not "concept" figures of characters you already have 16 releases for.

Oboewan
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: ruiner on September 27, 2006, 03:50 PM
I'm burnt out on 3 3/4" figures. 

Personally, I have all the characters I want (minus a few here and there) and I'm not excited about another (potential) price increase next year.

Space is an issue and I really don't get excited anymore over the Hasbro lines.  The rehashes, pricing and distribution hasn't helped either.

Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: DrunkJedi on September 27, 2006, 05:06 PM
I have been cutting back on SW merchandise (Marvel Legends as well), niot because I want to, but because the area where I live has been bad for getting new product in since at least spring. The WalMart here is still waiting for a case of Star Wars figures even though they ordered a new case to fill the empty pegs 4 months ago (the new planogram even has 4 or 5 pegs devoted to SW basic figs, yet there has not been anything there for months)
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: 212th Battalion on September 27, 2006, 07:34 PM
I doubt i will ever stop buying the basic figures until they become to much $
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: ddschneider1972 on September 28, 2006, 10:10 PM
my collecting of the 3 3/4 line is coming to an end.   Not stopping altogether yet- but buying only those characters that haven't been produced before (cantina/ Jabba aliens for example) and the occasional (as mentioned earlier in the thread) remake of an existing figure if the sculpt is a vast improvement.   

This is exactly where I am. After large amount of repaints in the OTC line, I stopped collecting one of every figure loose. Just like I stopped collecting one of every figure carded back during POTJ, it started becoming a space issue. Hundreds of figures carded/boxed vs. hundreds of figures loose. I figured back them if i have a Vader carded, I had a representation of that card type in my collection, and focusung on cards of characters I like (Vader/Yoda) rather than figures like Malikili and ugnaughts, made mor esense to me. The same thing happened with the repaints. Even though the repaints in OTC looked nice, I had jawas, scanning trooper etc, did I need them with painted highlights, too? Did I need 5 packs with 3 figures I have and one repainted? Do I need a vehicle just because it has a new figure? No, No, No...Now it's just new characters and/or nicely done resculpts and some repaints/kit bashes that are "new" characters (i.e Muftak the Jedi, droid 5 pack repaints, etc)

 
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Morgbug on September 29, 2006, 11:43 AM
Ah, this is where the thread I was thinking of is.  Probably should meld my little whining thread from the other forum into here if you get a chance. 

My anxiousness with Hasbro's 3.75" is pretty much done.  Still like the stuff, still want one of the new figures that aren't prequel and aren't rehashed/repainted.  Otherwise I could care less.  At one point I bought the battle of Carkoon set for a repainted Han, not happening again. 

I'm not sure I can give it up, but they're pushing the limits to see if I can.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: darthmac on September 29, 2006, 01:19 PM
I've always just collected what I like - not everything.  I used to collect some carded figures, but now I only collect the VOTC carded.  My armies (squads really) are getting close to all I want, but there are still several holes (SA Snowtroopers or SA Jedi Luke anyone?).  I'm also trying to pick up the best sculpts of the figures from the scenes I want to build dioramas for.  So my collecting will slow(I have only purchased 9 unique figures (11 total) + 5 VTSC this year (11 total)), but I don't see it ending for quite a while.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Daigo-Bah on September 30, 2006, 10:00 AM
The 4" line has always been, and will always be, the core of my collecting.  The nostalgia factor, the size and cost of items, and the fact that I diorama-build keep it firmly at the center of my collecting.  I like the high-end stuff, but simply cannot afford it.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on October 2, 2006, 01:01 AM
Went cold turkey two months ago and have not hunted, nor have I looked. I am tempted to get one or two figures that I don't already have but that is all. Then go figure, my wife tells me that one of her employees is dating a guy who works at a local retail store and he'll pick up what I want for me as long as I meet him away from the store. Go figure. I just decided enough is enough so I am done. No regrets, it was a fun run. I am now putting that money either into my classroom or into my investments. Time will tell if it lasts. I did this once before after Ep. II and then came back in for Ep. III.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Jediknight760071 on October 2, 2006, 03:55 AM
Is it just me or is Hasbro doing to Star Wars what they did to the 80's GI Joe line?

Clearly they have been doing it to vehicles for a while but now they are clearly doing it to figures too.

Or to the Jurassic Park line?

I've already quit the basic line. Insurance payments kind of forced it upon me, but I'm only looking for the really interesting figures now. I know that in 6 months I'll be able to pick up the rest loose and in good condition here for way less, so I'm just spending on the figures like Mars Guo or perhaps another 2 or 3 this year.
Title: Re: Have You/Could You Give up the Basic Line?
Post by: Darth Depressis on October 3, 2006, 09:36 AM
yes we can defently track whats happening under the rule of hasbro, but i just hope they actually start printing figures more by the truck load like they do with g.i joe and quit making it seem like it takes more than slave labor to make these damn things.