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Title: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on June 29, 2007, 08:37 AM
It sounds like Mattel now has the license for all of the DCU (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=118728).  If this means the DC Superheroes line expanding to the Justice League and beyond, this could be trouble for me ;).  Just as Legends seems to be winding down a bit for me, now this license might be picking up.  I guess its better than having them both full force at the same time.  Hopefully we'll see more from the DC Superheroes line now.  I'll admit I'm not as familiar with DC as Marvel, so if we see more toys, I should be able to keep it more manageable.  Just the main Justice League characters, and probably Flash's rogues (as well as Batman).
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on June 29, 2007, 10:32 AM
It sounds like Mattel now has the license for all of the DCU (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=118728).  If this means the DC Superheroes line expanding to the Justice League and beyond, this could be trouble for me ;).  Just as Legends seems to be winding down a bit for me, now this license might be picking up.  I guess its better than having them both full force at the same time.  Hopefully we'll see more from the DC Superheroes line now.  I'll admit I'm not as familiar with DC as Marvel, so if we see more toys, I should be able to keep it more manageable.  Just the main Justice League characters, and probably Flash's rogues (as well as Batman).

I wouldn't worry too much Brian, given Mattel's inability to actually ship what they say they're shipping or have a decent case ratio.  We're still getting shipped the Superman wave with Supes, Supes with black S, Supergirl with black S and Bizzaro.  Nothing else.  TRU is the only place carrying the line for us and I wouldn't blame them a single bit if they dropped that line altogether.  Of course we just don't get much up here anyway (never did get the Batman/Batgirl 2 pack).

I'm pretty set with DC stuff for myself though.  All I'm really wanting is a decent Flash figure, so maybe this will be it. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on June 29, 2007, 10:37 AM
That's true, although I think you probably have it even worse in Canada.  Mattel isn't great about shipping here, and although I haven't checked the pegs closely in awhile, I think we've probably just got a multitude of Supermen and Bizarros (and maybe old Banes).

Like I've said before, I'm really trying to cut back on the "other" lines at this point, and I'm going to try to keep it in check if we get some decent DCU figures out of this line now.  I've picked up a few of the figures so far, and will probably get some more of the Bat villains, and now if its opened up universe-wise, I'll get a few more favorites.  Flash is first on my list, then Green Lantern and Green Arrow, and then maybe the rest of the Justice League (or the most well-known Justice League members, I should say, since almost every character has probably been in at some point).
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 3, 2007, 04:04 PM
I"m happy about this. I'm really just hoping for straight-up decent versions of the core characters. I don't need everyone, just the iconic DC superheroes.

True, that's exactly what I said about Star Wars in 1995, but Star Wars has been a constant in my life from the get-go.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on July 6, 2007, 02:54 PM
Here's a short interview (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/005075917.cfm) further discussing Mattel's new deal with DC.  It sounds like almost everything is available now, and we may be seeing the Build-A-Figure concept coming into this line.  It could be a really great line, I'm looking forward to it.  The article also includes a silhouette as a teaser to one of the first "new" figures they will be releasing.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on July 6, 2007, 03:04 PM
The article also includes a silhouette as a teaser to one of the first "new" figures they will be releasing.

Hmmm... giant cape collar =

- Red Tornado?  He's had a big role in the new JLA comic so far...
- Mister Miracle?  Seems to be going to play a role in Countdown based on the teaser images... 

Eh.  I'm still undecided on this line.  I don't really have a lot of extra cash/space for these, but if I can get a really nice, really affordable Silver Age JLA, I'll most likely get sucked in...  you just know that a new Hal will be in wave 1 to tempt me.   :P
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on July 6, 2007, 03:19 PM
Yeah, even though we haven't even seen anything yet, I'm already telling myself that I can't go too crazy with these.  Like you said Jeff, I don't have the funds or space for a lot of "other" lines anyways, and with 50+ Marvel figures already taking up a shelf (plus some of the current DC Superheroes stuff), I don't have a lot of room for more.  I've been picking up Batman-related stuff from the line so far, and hope to continue, but once the DCU takes hold I'm going to try to limit it to my favorite/most recognizable JLAers.  Flash and Green Lantern being first, with others (Green Arrow, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Hawkman, Aquaman, etc.) being probable buys for me as well.  Of course, this might be hitting a good time, as the Marvel line winds down a bit (with so many characters out already), so we'll see.  Too much good stuff out there these days with Star Wars, Marvel/Spidey, 25th Joe, DC Superheroes, Transformers (maybe), and next year, Indiana Jones.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on July 6, 2007, 03:52 PM
I'm interested in a lot of ways in seeing what happens, but everything gets tempered by Mattel's absolutely horrendous case-pack history.  On top of that I've laid out a bunch of cash into the DC Direct type of figures as well and I really have most of what I want.  At the same time, if they're done well and easy enough to get, I could see myself being convinced to get into this line.  Probably the most important deciding factor for that will be if they manage to do the figures in a consistent scale, my biggest beef with the other lines of DC figures that are released.  It's just all over the place. 

The converse is I can't see this line being the same quality of sculpt/paint as say an Alex Ross series.  Still, huge potential to pick up and simply steal away Hasbro's Marvel Legends crowd given the recent issues folks have had finding ML, some of the bad sculpts/paint in the ML line and the simple fact the ML line has probably done all of the Marvel characters that are actually legendary in the first place (yeah, lots of choices are subject to debate). 

Now if I were Mattel, I'd reckon on a case of 12 figures, 2 pieces per character, six characters per wave.  Of those six I'd probably do
3 heroes
2 villains
1 female character

Being me, I'd say skip the chase figures, but they won't, so I'd suggest doing chase figures of only the heroes, but that'll never happen either.

So:
Wave 1:
Green Lantern :-*
Flash
Batman
Wonder Woman
Joker
Sinestro

Wave 2:
Green Arrow
Hawkman
Superman
Hawkgirl
Lex Luthor
some other villain

Wave 3:
Aquaman
Robin
Martian Manhunter
Black Canary
Bane
Catwoman

Funny, I have all those figures already.  Well, you get the point of what I'd like to see. 

Yeah, I know, why include Batman/Superman?  Mostly because they are core characters but I think they need to be done in whatever style/scale these figures are meant to be in.  We certainly don't need them too badly but they could still be in there and they do have the largest gallery of rogues to complement them. 

I'd be ecstatic too if these were articulated to nearly the same extent as Marvel Legends.  Is it too much to ask for a Green Lantern that can hold a damn bow? >:(
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on July 6, 2007, 04:01 PM
I like your lineup thoughts Brent, those look good.  Also, I agree, we're going to see Batman and Superman throughout these waves - much like Spidey/Wolverine/Iron Man/etc. keep showing up in the Legends assortments.  I really wouldn't be surprised to see Mattel taking a Legends-like mentality with this line, as they've seen how ToyBiz in particular was able to be so successful with that line.  Heck, I like the new sculpt Batman and Superman that we've gotten from the DC Superheroes line so far, and if they repaint them (Batman in black and grey), or repack them (Superman), that would probably be ok - even though I'm sure people will complain.  If we're getting other new characters like Flash and GL, I'm ok with having a repacked Bats or Supes.  You also have a good point about the villains.  Although there are other cool ones throughout the DCU, Superman and Batman have a lot of the best known ones (Batman in particular).  Hopefully we'll get a look at what's to come at Comic Con.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2007, 03:41 PM
Action Figure Insider (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/main/) is now updating from the Mattel panel, and here's the latest news on DC Superheroes (to be renamed DC Universe Classics).  Still on the way this year:

Batman Series 4: Clayface, Transforming Bruce Wayne, Nightwing (new deco/accessories), Catwoman, Gas Mask Joker

Then, we get into the DCU lineups:

Wave 1: Red Tornado (and chase), Penguin (and chase), Etrigan the Demon, Orion, 70s Batman (new body), BAF Metamorpho

Wave 2: Firestorm, Harley Quinn, Black Manta, Electric (Blue) Superman, Aquaman, BAF Not Announced

Also, it sounds like there will be a 6" scale Four Horsemen designed line for the Dark Knight movie - alongside the traditional 5" line.  I'm looking forward to that, and its nice that they are telling people in advance unlike Hasbro with the Marvel movie lines this year :P.

EDIT: Now WIZARD (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/005327483.cfm) has a look at some of them.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2007, 04:12 PM
Did they mention anything about coming to their senses with respect to case ratios?  I talked to our TRU manager and he said if he could get anything knew, he'd bother ordering but everytime he orders, it's the same damnable case.

The 70s/Classic Batman is too buff :-\ 

Penguin is nice, wonder how well scaled it is. 

Red Tornado is nice too, but not as nice as the DC Direct version and since I'm actually paying less at my comic shop for DC Direct stuff than TRU charges for Mattel stuff, I'll pass.

Metamorpho is pretty neat but again that dilemma of buying more than half a wave I have no real interest in.

For the other stuff, I am curious to see the figures.  Based on the Wizard pics, they're generally well done, so bravo to Mattel for that.  I'm fairly certain I'll want the BAF from wave 2 since the only figure of any interest is Harley Quinn. 

I get the Batman and Superman always being present, it's a good idea.  But some of these choices are odd starting points to be sure.  Black Manta?  He didn't even sell well at 1/2 price clearance sales on the Ross version and it was actually pretty nice. 

Generally positive news though.  Addition of BAFs is ok, even with the massive frustration of buying crap I don't want, at least the figures/characters are there.  The character splits in the waves are great, no multiple Bat/Super-men so well done. Couple of female figures for the fanboys.  Jeez, it's almost like they're reading my posts :-X
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2007, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I thought the pics shown at Wizard looked pretty good.  It sounds like the 2nd wave will be on display at WW Chicago.  I'd really like to go all out with this line, but I'm going to probably have to keep it limited to Batman's world and the big names from the League.  There's just so much nice stuff out there now between Star Wars, 25th Joes, Marvel Legends, and next year Indiana Jones.  We'll see I guess.  There are some odd choices in the lineups though, I agree.  I understand having a Batman or Superman in each wave though, and if they are different versions that's ok.  I was kind of hoping we'd see Flash or Green Lantern in the first couple waves, but they must be holding off on those.  It sounds like they are straight forward with the plans otherwise though - five figures per wave, and five waves per year.  That wouldn't be too hard to keep up with - if I didn't collect anything else :P.  It really looks like they are following the Marvel Legends model though now with the whole universe, BAFs, and chase figures.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2007, 04:26 PM
I'm still needing a Flash, so I have high hopes for this line to finally give me a decent Flash (probably with a Yellow Flash chase piece which I'll want badly).

I really do like the 5x5 approach and hopefully it'll make it north of the border.  I might try and jump on with BBTS for this line though. 

I wonder how large the BAFs are though, given it's only five figures per wave?
Now if I were Mattel, I'd reckon on a case of 12 figures, 2 pieces per character, six characters per wave.  Of those six I'd probably do
3 heroes
2 villains
1 female character

Being me, I'd say skip the chase figures, but they won't, so I'd suggest doing chase figures of only the heroes, but that'll never happen either.



Yep, they were paying attention, though I said 6 figures.  Five is better.  And they were supposed to listen to my suggestions, not ignore them.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Ben on July 28, 2007, 01:30 AM
To my surprise, I found the DCSH Two-Face at my local TRU today. They also had that weird Knight Shadow Batman, but no Cassie Cain Batgril or Clayface.

I was just happy to find Two-Face. I didn't even know this wave was out yet.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on July 30, 2007, 09:52 AM
Nice find Ben.  That's the figure I'm looking for right now as well.  I must have missed it at our TRU.  After seeing your post, I decided to give our store a check (I figured Iowa-Nebraska might be similar).  The wave was there, as there were 3 Knight Shadow Batmen there, along with the Bane repaint.  I would have almost missed them though, as they were just tucked back on a shelf in a kind of haphazard place.  Our TRU kind of has "superhero" toys stuffed everywhere in the action figure area, with one area having the Superman/Bizarro bonanza and the JLU pegwarmers, and another area having old Superman Returns stuff with purple carded JLU, and the 12" figures.

Anyways, its really nice to see this DCU Classics line on the way next year.  I think if there wasn't so much other stuff out there (Star Wars, Indy, Joe, Marvel, etc.), I would maybe go all in on this line from the beginning.  That said, there's enough money going elsewhere collecting-wise, so I'll probably have to limit and pick and choose, focusing mainly on Batman villains and the "big names" from the league/etc.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: drewlam on August 3, 2007, 04:36 PM
The 70's batman is way too buff, but other then that the figures look great.  I've always been a big DC fan, so the chance at some obscure characters is pretty interesting (though scary).  The biggest issue is, these things don't really seem to have showed up north of the border.  I really wanted to get the brainaic, luther, and darkseid from the earlier waves, but never did see them.  So, I currently have no figures from this line.  Maybe that's a good thing though, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on August 3, 2007, 04:44 PM
Anyone need a S3 DCSH Azrael?
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on August 10, 2007, 02:56 PM
WIZARD (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/005545823.cfm) has pics up of DCU Classics Series 2:

Red Tornado (plus classic variant)
Firestorm (plus classic variant)
Superman Blue (plus Red variant)
Harley Quinn
Black Manta
Aquaman (plus modern variant)
BAF Gorilla Grodd!

They look great to me, and I might just have to pick up the whole wave to get that Grodd.  Looking good.

Nice to see that DC is doing its best to come out with characters as boring as the Marvel Legends line.  *yawn*  Not going to get a single one of these.  Glad someone likes them.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on August 10, 2007, 04:23 PM
Should I start bitching about BAFs here now too Justin? ;)  I'd like to get Grodd but the only figure I want is the Harley Quinn.

That's an odd, if not good looking first wave. 

Firestorm was literally just released by DC Direct in one of the sublines.  I didn't want it, but got the whole set at a good price, so I still haven't even opened it, if I ever do.

Black Manta looks almost exactly like the DC Direct Justice League version.  I'm fairly sure it's the same sculpt, which is good, if you like that character.  Actually, the Red Tornado looks just like they used the same sculpt too, which is actually concerning because they might not be addressing variability in scale issues if they're reusing sculpts. 

Superman looks goofy to me, but I'm not a huge fan, so I'm less than objective.

Aquaman is cool and I might actually spring for that one as the colors are more classic than the Ross version and I always liked the character, so having more than one isn't too bad. 

Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on August 10, 2007, 04:31 PM
I hear you on the BAF Brent.  I really only wanted Harley Quinn and probably Aquaman from Wave 2, but I'd really like to get the Grodd BAF, so we'll see how that goes.  I keep thinking this type of a line wouldn't be too bad to keep up on if it was all you collected.  They've already said they're shooting for 5 waves, 5 figures per wave (each with a BAF).  That's 30 figures give or take for the year for about $250.  Of course, I don't just collect these, so that's another story.

A small part of me is hoping that I'll basically be wrapped up with Marvel Legends by the end of this year (or the end of Wave 4 - there's a few I want from that wave), and I can hopefully just slide these into that "slot" in the budget.  I can't afford to do both at once, alongside Star Wars and Indy.  There's just too much nice stuff out these days, and even though I don't really have the room I keep on buying it :P.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Ben on August 11, 2007, 01:28 PM
I'm with you, Brian. I only want Aquaman and Harley. These figures look great. It's kind of harsh to see Mattel schooling Hasbro in the superhero toy department. They'd do much better if they got with some better distribution.

I saw the Cassie Cain Batgirl at TRU this weekend, as well as the repainted Bane and another Two-Face. I wish I'd have picked up the Batgirl, but I spent my money on some Joes.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on August 11, 2007, 02:44 PM
If anyone sees that Cassie Cain Batgirl and can afford to help me out, I know it won't make it north of the border.  I'm actually still looking for the regular Batgirl as well, even the one from the two pack release.   :-\
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on August 11, 2007, 05:44 PM
I think these are very cool but i cannot see myself getting into this for so many reasons. I dont have the space or the money. I would also be worried they would not make many of the figures that DC Direct has already made since i dont have any of those. Whatever excuse for me not to buy any of these works for me.  ;D
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on August 11, 2007, 07:37 PM
If anyone sees that Cassie Cain Batgirl and can afford to help me out, I know it won't make it north of the border.  I'm actually still looking for the regular Batgirl as well, even the one from the two pack release.   :-\

I'll grab one for you if I see it.  Have you posted on the MN board?  Jay and Jeff seem to be the best at finding goodies lately.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on August 13, 2007, 09:08 AM
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I saw the Cassie Cain Batgirl at TRU this weekend, as well as the repainted Bane and another Two-Face. I wish I'd have picked up the Batgirl, but I spent my money on some Joes.

I'm really on the hunt for that Two Face, but no finds there yet.  It seems like TRU is the only place getting this wave, from what I've seen so far.  Our Wal-Mart doesn't seem to currently have a spot for DC stuff (since the reset), and Target just has Supermen.  Our TRU had the Two Face assortment at some point, because I did see three Knight Shadow Batmen at one time (those have since sold).  Hopefully these won't be too tough to find, I'd really like to get Two Face to go with the Batman rogues.  I'm looking forward to the DCU Classics line, but unless Mattel can fix the shipping/distribution problems they have had with DCSH, its going to be a pain to collect.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on August 13, 2007, 09:21 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention too, I don't know if anyone has read the reports of Big Lots stores getting a lot of newer DC stuff - but I checked our local store this weekend and they did indeed have quite a bit.  They had newer JLU packs (Joker and Hawkman packs), the new DC Superfriends line (Rescue Hero-ish), and the Superman figures from DCSH.  I did see the Cyborg Superman, which is supposed to be somewhat rare, but didn't pick it up.  They had others from that wave (Darkseid), and a ton of older Batman comic line stuff.  I picked up a Joker/Batman 2 pack, just because I didn't have a Joker.  He'll make a nice placeholder until we get a nice 4HM sculpted version in the future.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 6, 2007, 10:15 AM
ToyNewsI (http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=11841) has some detailed loose shots of the upcoming DC Universe Classics Series 1.  We've seen the figures before, but there are some nice pics if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on September 6, 2007, 11:02 AM
I'm still disappointed that we are two waves in with no signs of any GLs.   :'(

Perhaps DC is saving the GLC for the DC Direct stuff?
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 6, 2007, 11:41 AM
I'm kind of disappointed with no Flash or GL so far as well, but I figure they are spreading the "big guns" out a bit.  I would guess we'd see at least one of each somewhere in the 5 waves next year (or 3 remaining waves).  From what I understand, DC Direct will handle more "artist/storyline specific" type versions of characters, where the DCU Classics line will have the general, more all-encompassing versions of characters.  Aside from the fact Flash/GL are missing so far, I like what I see in the first couple waves.  The figures look nice, if Mattel can figure out distribution.  I still haven't seen a DCSH Two-Face (and I'm not the only one the way it sounds).
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on September 6, 2007, 12:03 PM
I'm kind of disappointed with no Flash or GL so far as well, but I figure they are spreading the "big guns" out a bit. 

Yeah, it makes sense that they'd spread the big 7 out. 

Only problem is that it seems like these Mattel lines never last long enough to get to wave 4/5.   :P


Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 6, 2007, 12:17 PM
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Only problem is that it seems like these Mattel lines never last long enough to get to wave 4/5.

Yeah, that's definitely a concern I've thought of as well.  Like I said, hopefully Mattel will get distribution issues figured out, and this line will do well.  So far, it looks like it could be a nice line and they have (so far) found a good way to sprinkle in more Supermen and Batmen without it getting all "neon shark battle tiger force ice armor battle damaged extreme Batman" :).  That alone might help a bit.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on September 6, 2007, 06:54 PM
Still waiting on a good Flash figure.  Really. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on September 6, 2007, 07:16 PM
Still waiting on a good Flash figure.  Really. 

Still waiting on a good DCSH figure in my opinion.  I've found some okay stuff at comic book shops, but the core DCSH line is really bad compared to the Marvel Legends figs.  :-\
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on September 6, 2007, 10:12 PM
Yeah, the worst issue is scale amongst all the DC lines.  I've found a few DCSH I actually like (Azrael, for example) but it's so hard with consistency to put together a decent DC Universe collection. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2007, 10:24 AM
I noticed that BBTS (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=1504) has the first waves of DCUC up for preorder now, and apparently have been given a list of names of figures that will be on the way next year (5 waves of 5).  Here's how the waves break down for now:

DCUC Wave 1
Penguin
Orion
Etrigan
Red Tornado
Batman (Classic)

DCUC Wave 2
Harley Quinn
Aquaman
Firestorm
Superman Electric Red/Blue
Black Manta

And here's the new info:

DCUC Wave 3
Batman 2
Captain Atom
Robin
Beast Boy
Deathstroke

DCUC Wave 4
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Sinestro
Nightwing
Ares

DCUC Wave 5
Superman 2
Mr. Miracle
Hawkman
Shazam
Charaxes

If this turns out to be true, it doesn't look too bad.  I'm disappointed with no Flash listed though.  The BAFs aren't listed either.  The lineups don't look too bad overall though.  It will be interesting to see which GL it is (you would think Hal), and I'm really looking forward to a new Nightwing (rumors are it will be all new, I think they confirmed that in Q and As).  Aside from no Flash though, I'm pretty happy with the lineups - good mixes it seems.

EDIT:  I've also read that Cornboy (one of the 4HM sculptors) has said that these lineups are wrong "for the most part", so we'll see how much of this is true - or if there is some cover up going on.  It isn't often that a line's entire lineup is revealed at this point, so maybe it was a mistake.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on September 17, 2007, 10:33 AM

DCUC Wave 4
Green Lantern
Sinestro

It will be interesting to see which GL it is (you would think Hal)

 ;D

Yeah, I'm thinking Hal but it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being John again.  Hal and John are splitting time in the JLA book and lately Mattel has been sticking with John to keep some ethnic variety in their DC lines.  It will be interesting to see which Sinestro they go with since there is already a Sinestro Corps version coming from DCD next year...
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2007, 03:28 PM
A couple of different reports now that these lineups aren't "accurate".  Like we've seen with other lines, I have a feeling that some of it is, some of it isn't.  It doesn't look too bad to me, so we'll see.  I really hope that one of the "mistakes" is that a Flash is included in there somewhere.  With plenty of Batmen to go around so far, if we got a Wally Flash and Nightwing, that would cover my favorites along with the rest of the well known Leaguers (GL, WW, Hawkman, hopefully Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, etc.)  Anyways, we'll see how much ends up being true.  I have a feeling this line might be my main "secondary" line next year, alongside Star Wars.  Marvel should be winding down more for me overall, and I have to make a decision about G.I. Joe.  And then there's always Indy, but I'll just cheat and put that under the "Star Wars" umbrella :P.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 26, 2007, 04:12 PM
I stopped by Target today, and surprisingly the Clayface DCSH wave was on the pegs.  It was tough to pass it up, but I've got a set from BBTS that should be shipping this week (its "in the warehouse").  I didn't see Catwoman, but the others (Black/Grey Bats, Nightwing, Clayface, Joker repaint, Bruce Wayne) were all there.  Now if they would only stock Two Face and I could be about caught up with my Bat-figures (and tracking down the Killer Croc I skipped).
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on September 26, 2007, 04:16 PM
I've about given up on this line entirely.  I stopped in at TRU today and they put out yet another case that had only Bizarro, Supes and Supergirl.  Nothing else at all.  It just sucks and I'm not bothering to chase this around, which is too bad because there were a number of figures I was after.   :-\
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on September 26, 2007, 05:14 PM
I found a catwoman last week along with the rest of the latest purple wave.  She was pretty decent, but I didn't realize that Target had marked these up to $11 until I hit the register.  Almost 2x a SW figure is a little ridiculous.   :o
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on September 27, 2007, 09:29 AM
I think the pegs were priced at $9.60-something at our Target for this line.  The Marvel Legends are $9.96 and these were about thirty cents cheaper.  It might just be our store though, I don't know.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on October 14, 2007, 10:34 PM
I found this wave at the Target in Grand Forks, ND earlier today.  I didn't buy the Catwoman figure as it was scaled too small.  It was well done, but just wouldn't mesh and I think I have a similar version already that's a little larger.  I might regret that.  I did grab the Clayface which seemed about the largest figure of the bunch.  Overall the rest of the figures were nice, but scaled on the low side, seeming more 5" than the larger 6" they're supposed to be.  Was hoping to stumble into the Cassandra Cain Batgirl/Two-face wave as I don't have any figures of either of those two characters, but no luck there.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2007, 11:23 AM
SuperHeroTimes (http://www.superherotimes.com/newsarchive/002626.php) has a look at the packaging for the DCUC line coming in 2008, if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2007, 04:07 PM
I stopped by Target today and surprisingly found a Two Face hanging on the pegs.  Its nice to finally have that one out of the way, and I'm caught up for the rest of the year with DC stuff I think.  As cool as the DCU Classics line sounds, I'm wondering how much I'll be able to pick up.  With word from Hasbro that the "Star Wars Classic" line will have 53 figures (not including Clone Wars), plus Indy, plus Marvel - there might not be much left to spend on DC.  I'm thinking I'll just stick to Batman-related stuff and a few Leaguers.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on November 15, 2007, 04:32 PM
I cant find any of these figures anywhere. It seems like none of the stores carry them. I saw a few earlier waves once and a while but no sign of Clayface anywhere.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2007, 04:36 PM
Target is the only place around here that seems to stock them anymore.  WM here currently doesn't carry anything DC, and TRU usually just has a couple Supermen.  I'm really curious if Mattel's distribution will improve at all with the DCUC line next year and beyond.  It has been pretty ridiculous so far, aside from a few figures/waves.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on November 16, 2007, 12:11 PM
I've seen the whole wave multiple times at Target in Minneapolis.  Catwoman seems to go quick, but the others aren't as hard to find.  If there's some you need and don't mind paying shipping, let me know and I'll try to snag them for you. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on November 18, 2007, 10:29 PM
Two-face :-*
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on November 24, 2007, 12:33 PM
I could use a Two-Face. If there are older waves in the stores by you as well send me a PM.  ;D
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on December 1, 2007, 10:12 AM
I am not sure if you guys have seen this yet but here is the breakdown for the case assortments:

Wave 1A:

2x Batman
1x Penguin
1x Red Tornado (90/10 split)
1x Orion
1x Etrigan

Wave 1B:

1x Batman
1x Penguin
2x Red Tornado (90/10 split)
1x Orion
1x Etrigan

Wave 2A:

2x Superman Red or Blue (50/50 split)
1x Aquaman (50/50 split)
1x Black Manta
1x Firestorm Classic (Ronnie)
1x Harley Quinn

Wave 2B:

2x Superman Red or Blue (50/50 split)
1x Aquaman (50/50 split)
1x Black Manta
1x Firestorm Modern (Jason)
1x Harley Quinn
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on December 3, 2007, 04:17 PM
Seriously?  This will be an easy line for me to skip.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on December 3, 2007, 05:02 PM
I'm still at pick and choose point on this line.  I'd like most of the BAF figures, but it's just not worth it.  I really want the Metamorpho so I might buy all of series one for the BAF parts and the Penguin essentially ::)

I can't justify enough out of series 2 to get Grodd though.  I've got a bloody Firestorm sitting at home never opened that I can't do anything with and don't want.  I'm surely not buying yet another one.  And I don't need more Supermen.  As mentioned previously I'll likely buy Harley Quinn since there hasn't been a figure since I've been collecting this scale of DC.  I'm possibly inclined to get the Aquaman but since I already have a Alex Ross version, I might not spend the $$

To be horribly repetetive, between DC and ML figures, regardless of the sub-line, I'm really dwindling on what I'll buy.  Much too much in the way of repetetive figures at this point.  I am supportive of DC limiting the number of figures to finish out the BAF (5) but even I have 2-3 Supermen and probably at least a half dozen Batman figures.  I really don't need more. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on December 15, 2007, 03:16 PM
Does anyone have the DC Direct Green Lantern Series figures?

If so can you post a pic of them next to some DCSH figures. I was thinking of picking a few up, Kilowog, Salak and the little blue guys specifically.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2007, 11:37 AM
I saw this article (http://actionfigureinsider.com/ottertorials/2007/12/17/15-down-19-to-go/) over at AFI this morning, comparing the Super Powers line of the 80s to the current/upcoming DCUC line.  I can see the similarities, especially concerning the versions/style of the characters.  Not a bad thing necessarily though, I have fond memories of the Super Power figures I had as a kid.

Also, it looks as if Wave 1 of these is being found/received by a few people, according to this thread (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9836&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).  It looks like online orders and local comic shops, I don't think there has been any retail sightings yet, but it probably won't be too far behind.  I have admit, looking at these all together, they do look pretty nice.  I still haven't quite decided how far to go with this line, I know I'll get some, but not sure about all of them.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on December 18, 2007, 12:11 PM
Thats actually my logic in collectingt his line. I am pretty much hoping to get all the Super Powers figures and then some random extras i really like.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on December 18, 2007, 02:03 PM
If anyone is interested in parting with Metamorpho parts, let me know, I'm very interested.  He's one of the most memorable characters from my childhood but I'm really not that keen or in need of the figures from wave 1 :-\
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on December 24, 2007, 02:17 AM
If anyone is interested in parting with Metamorpho parts, let me know, I'm very interested.  He's one of the most memorable characters from my childhood but I'm really not that keen or in need of the figures from wave 1 :-\

Pictures of the figures over on the Spawn board as someone found these at a Target.  If anyone can help me get a Penguin in particular, it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on December 24, 2007, 08:33 AM
Where is the Spawn board?  ???
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on December 24, 2007, 01:39 PM
http://board.spawn.com/forums/

Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on December 31, 2007, 06:07 PM
Is the DC Super Heroes Mr. Freeze the same as the one that came out in the Batman line a year or 2 earlier.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on December 31, 2007, 06:13 PM
Is the DC Super Heroes Mr. Freeze the same as the one that came out in the Batman line a year or 2 earlier.

It sure looks like it.  But I can't say for sure as I haven't seen anything but pics of the more recent carded version.  I have the older one (variant too) and it's going to be the one I stick with.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on December 31, 2007, 06:16 PM
Is the DC Super Heroes Mr. Freeze the same as the one that came out in the Batman line a year or 2 earlier.

It sure looks like it.  But I can't say for sure as I haven't seen anything but pics of the more recent carded version.  I have the older one (variant too) and it's going to be the one I stick with.

Thanks for the info. In my quest to collect this line and limit my backtracking to the Super Powers characters, i need to find a Mr. Freeze.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: spiderpumpkin on January 1, 2008, 12:23 PM
I found a set of these last night at the Coon Rapids/Riverdale Target in Minnesota.  I was only going to buy Batman and Orion but I ended up buying the rest too.  Very cool figures.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on January 1, 2008, 04:03 PM
I found a set of these last night at the Coon Rapids/Riverdale Target in Minnesota.  I was only going to buy Batman and Orion but I ended up buying the rest too.  Very cool figures.

Saw the whole set at the Crystal, MN Target a few days ago as well, but nothing in the wave worth buying for me.   :-\
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: drewlam on January 2, 2008, 09:07 AM
For those who have seen them, what's the price point on these?
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Mikey D on January 2, 2008, 09:29 AM
$10 at Target...
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2008, 03:54 PM
Found Series 1 at Target today...first thoughts...me likey :)
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: drewlam on January 4, 2008, 11:45 PM
Picked up series 1 today.  I have no expectation of them coming to Canada, so I paid WAY too much for them from a local comic shop.  But I've always been a big DC guy, so that's alright.  I have to say, on the whole they look better then the initial pictures that I had seen for them.

Question for anyone who has been collecting these from the prior line (and has the new ones).  How do the other figures fit in with these in terms of looks and scale?  I was very interested in the luthor, robot braniac and darkseid when they came out (last year?), but wasn't interested enough to try tracking them down.  Now that I've got this wave however...

So if anyone can comment on how they look, or better yet post a pic, it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on January 5, 2008, 12:47 AM
Can't help you out bud, don't have the new stuff.  But I do have lots of the old stuff.   :-\
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on January 7, 2008, 09:40 AM
I found my first DCUC figure this weekend, the Penguin (at Target).  He was actually the one I was looking forward to the most in this wave, and I look forward to adding him to the "Batman" shelf.  Looking at some of the recent villains though (Penguin, Catwoman, Clayface, Two Face), I think we could really use an all-new Joker in this line eventually.  No signs of any of the rest of this wave, but hopefully they'll start showing up soon.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on January 7, 2008, 10:33 AM
I still need a Two-Face & Supergirl in blue (and a Mr. Freeze but i doubt thats still on the pegs anywhere), so if anyone sees them try to think of me.

As for the Classics, i saw empty pegs for them at Target. No sign of the figures yet.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on January 9, 2008, 03:59 PM
I stopped by Target today during lunch and they had the first wave on the pegs.  I picked up the Batman and Orion, and grabbed Penguin at a different store last weekend.  I was tempted to grab the other two, and might do that yet, we'll see.  So close to the BAF, it gets more tempting.  ::)
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on January 12, 2008, 09:31 PM
I got my case in, so i have an extra Batman if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on January 17, 2008, 12:46 PM
I was just reading through some of the Mattel Q and A's from around the web (posted on 1/15), and Mattel does confirm that Wal-Mart is not currently ordering the DCU Classics line.  I know we've heard that before, but just wanted to pass along the confirmation.  Yet another reason to avoid shopping there :P.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on January 17, 2008, 01:05 PM
Heh.  Yeah, maybe, maybe not.  The only retailer in Canada carrying DC Classics IS Walmart.  $12.95 up here and the second they put them out, they're gone.  So US Walmarts might not be ordering them, but Canadian Walmarts are for now.  Yeah, I know, that's little help to you guys, but I was shocked to see them up here at all. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on January 17, 2008, 02:44 PM
Heh.  Yeah, maybe, maybe not.  The only retailer in Canada carrying DC Classics IS Walmart.  $12.95 up here and the second they put them out, they're gone.  So US Walmarts might not be ordering them, but Canadian Walmarts are for now.  Yeah, I know, that's little help to you guys, but I was shocked to see them up here at all. 

These are all over Target, so let me know if you need some yankee help in tracking these down ya Maple Leafer.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on January 23, 2008, 02:29 PM
I cant seem to find Two-Face or Batgirl anywhere. No stores have any DC super heroes by me. I pretty much have come to accept that if i want Supergirl and Mr. Freeze i have to resort to ebay but Two-Face and Batgirl may still be in some stores. Is anyone still seeing these anywhere?

I saw the Classics in a store for the first time, the BAF parts were stolen out of the packages.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2008, 03:10 PM
I know its still early on in the shipment of these things, but I'm curious if Mattel's distribution problems will have improved with this line at all.  Aside from a couple of Black/Grey Batmen from the last wave of DCSH (at TRU), I don't think there is a single DC figure in town here either.  I did see the initial wave of DCSH once at Target, and haven't really seen any since then.  The DC stuff has always been "blink and you miss them" around here for the most part (aside from pegwarming Supes/Bizarro), so it will be interesting to see if the distribution issues will improve or not.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Mikey D on January 24, 2008, 06:53 PM
Well, I've gone and done it.  I've had a $100 GC to TRU in my pocket since Christmas and since my local TRU hasn't stock anything of interest since then, I haven't spent it yet.  Made a trip after work with the boy to kill time before heading home and they actually had all of wave 1 (one of each plus the extra Batmen).  My apprehension of buying them lasted about 2 seconds.  I figured what the hell, I'm not going to use the GC on anything else soon.

I'm going to try and be selective with this line but I really like the BAFs shown so far (especially Grundy), so I'll get most of wave 2 and 3 (I'll try to track down the piece from the Electric Supes separately but I have a feeling most people will be buying that figure just for Grodd's part).

I guess the next question to ask is what older figures should I try to track down?  Supes I'm not too worried about, you know he's coming again.  Two-face (who I've never even seen), Clayface (pissed that I passed on him multiple times) and Catwoman (ditto) are probably tops for me as I'm more of a Batman fan than a Superman fan (although I wouldn't mind having the blue Supergirl or Steel).

This might not be a bad decision though.  Marvel stuff isn't looking all that hot this year and I got most of what I wanted from them character wise, I could just switch to a new universe.

(Yeah, that'll be what I keep telling myself).  ::)
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: evenflow on January 24, 2008, 09:12 PM
That really sounds like me. I have not been feeling the ML and really enjoy the DC Classics. Since i decided to start collecting these i have been going pretty much crazy backtracking. Here is an awesome poster like checklist that someone over at Fwoosh made.

DC Checklist (http://www.thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46174)

I am only going for the ones i like and the list helps with that. Good luck!
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on January 24, 2008, 11:07 PM
That really sounds like me. I have not been feeling the ML and really enjoy the DC Classics. Since i decided to start collecting these i have been going pretty much crazy backtracking. Here is an awesome poster like checklist that someone over at Fwoosh made.

DC Checklist (http://www.thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46174)

I am only going for the ones i like and the list helps with that. Good luck!

That's pretty cool - thanks for sharing.  I can't read the fine print - has the wave with batgirl come and gone already?  I saw a few catwoman figs months ago, but never saw any bat chicks.

I'll throw this out to the DC fans, since I'm more of a Marvel guy myself...is Nightwing really that popular of a character?  I scanned at least three versions of him just glancing at the poster, but not a single Robin.  What gives?  I guess I've always thought of him as more of a bit character since he went solo.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Morgbug on January 24, 2008, 11:21 PM
Which Batgirl: Cassandra Cain or Barbara Gordon?  I guess it doesn't really matter, they've both been out already.  The black version (Cane) was out exactly the same time as the Two Face/Catwoman wave apparently.  The classic look (Gordon) was out in the two packs only as far as I recall.  It seems to be the identical sculpt to Unmasked series that came out of the Direct line a while back. 

That poster is depressing to see how much never came here.  TRU was the only retailer and they got hosed with an absolutely awful case assortment that just never stopped coming.  It was always Superman/Bizzarro/Supergirl.  Always.  A smattering of the early Bat figure came, plus one box of wave 3 got put out (I scored the Azrael) but never saw the Batgirl in the box as pictured in that assortment (which did have a Robin in it btw).
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on January 25, 2008, 09:09 AM
Well, I've gone and done it.  I've had a $100 GC to TRU in my pocket since Christmas and since my local TRU hasn't stock anything of interest since then, I haven't spent it yet.  Made a trip after work with the boy to kill time before heading home and they actually had all of wave 1 (one of each plus the extra Batmen).  My apprehension of buying them lasted about 2 seconds.  I figured what the hell, I'm not going to use the GC on anything else soon.

I'm going to try and be selective with this line but I really like the BAFs shown so far (especially Grundy), so I'll get most of wave 2 and 3 (I'll try to track down the piece from the Electric Supes separately but I have a feeling most people will be buying that figure just for Grodd's part).

I guess the next question to ask is what older figures should I try to track down?  Supes I'm not too worried about, you know he's coming again.  Two-face (who I've never even seen), Clayface (pissed that I passed on him multiple times) and Catwoman (ditto) are probably tops for me as I'm more of a Batman fan than a Superman fan (although I wouldn't mind having the blue Supergirl or Steel).

This might not be a bad decision though.  Marvel stuff isn't looking all that hot this year and I got most of what I wanted from them character wise, I could just switch to a new universe.

(Yeah, that'll be what I keep telling myself).  ::)

Welcome aboard Mikey.  Its nice to see there's another sucker convert among us.  I'm in the same boat as you, as I originally was just going to get the Batman-related figures, then the Justice Leaguers, and now I feel like I want to get more of them.  Like you, I'd like to get the Wave 2 (Grodd) and 3 (Grundy) BAFs, so I may end up buying a couple figures I normally wouldn't have just to do that.  Also, like you mentioned, I'm pretty happy with the Marvel lineup we have at this point, so hopefully the "funds" can just be switched over to DCUC.  I'm interested to see what Toy Fair will show us is coming from the Marvel line(s), so then I'll have a little better idea.  Also, although I really like them both, I really feel like I should choose between the DCUC and GI Joe 25th lines.  Budget and space is at a premium, and I really should just do one or the other.  Like I've said before, there's just too much good stuff out these days.  At least Joe is somewhat affordable, and after a few more figures/characters I could probably be happy with what I have (maybe...hopefully).  We'll see.

I have to say, the Cassandra Cain Batgirl is the one figure I don't think I've ever seen at retail.  Its ok I guess, since I was more interested in the Barbara Gordon version from the two packs, which came - and went - and then came back again (I grabbed it on clearance for like $7 or something).  It seems like there are a few people wanting to backtrack with the DCSH line now, so hopefully it won't be too much trouble for them.  Around here, they are all but dried up, aside from a couple Batmen at TRU from the last wave I believe.  There were really some nice figures in DCSH, including ones mentioned already (Clayface, Catwoman), and a few others (Luthor, Darkseid, Mongul).
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: JediJman on January 25, 2008, 12:46 PM
Which Batgirl: Cassandra Cain or Barbara Gordon?  I guess it doesn't really matter, they've both been out already.  The black version (Cane) was out exactly the same time as the Two Face/Catwoman wave apparently.  The classic look (Gordon) was out in the two packs only as far as I recall.  It seems to be the identical sculpt to Unmasked series that came out of the Direct line a while back. 

That poster is depressing to see how much never came here.  TRU was the only retailer and they got hosed with an absolutely awful case assortment that just never stopped coming.  It was always Superman/Bizzarro/Supergirl.  Always.  A smattering of the early Bat figure came, plus one box of wave 3 got put out (I scored the Azrael) but never saw the Batgirl in the box as pictured in that assortment (which did have a Robin in it btw).

I was referring to CC - forgot about the 2pack version.  I wonder if DC has any plans to rerelease these?  Seems odd to go thru the design and molding for a figure that practically no one was able to find. 
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on January 25, 2008, 12:55 PM
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Seems odd to go thru the design and molding for a figure that practically no one was able to find. 

It does indeed, but looking at Mattel's history with their MOTU line (as well as the original Batman line), a lot of their distribution decisions don't make a lot of sense.  I really hope that these problems are remedied with the DCUC line though.
Title: Re: DC Universe Classics Wave 1
Post by: Brian on March 4, 2008, 04:20 PM
Our local Target restocked with Wave 1 over the weekend, and I ended up picking up Red Tornado.  I'm starting to lean towards just picking up Etrigan eventually too, since that's the only one I'm missing to build Metamorpho.