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Community => Other Toy Lines => Hall of Justice => Topic started by: Brian on August 10, 2007, 01:29 PM
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WIZARD (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/005545823.cfm) has pics up of DCU Classics Series 2:
Red Tornado (plus classic variant)
Firestorm (plus classic variant)
Superman Blue (plus Red variant)
Harley Quinn
Black Manta
Aquaman (plus modern variant)
BAF Gorilla Grodd!
They look great to me, and I might just have to pick up the whole wave to get that Grodd. Looking good.
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DCUC Wave 2 (http://www.dcuc.info/features/dcuc-wave-2-in-package-photos/) "in package" pictures at the linky, they look pretty nice. Looking forward to Quinn and Aquaman the most out of this wave, personally.
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DCUC Wave 2 (http://www.dcuc.info/features/dcuc-wave-2-in-package-photos/) "in package" pictures at the linky, they look pretty nice. Looking forward to Quinn and Aquaman the most out of this wave, personally.
Thanks for the pics. Figs look nice, but I'm skipping this line until W3 Green Lantern hits. If anyone needs the Lantern BAF piece, let me know.
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Well I think I'm pretty much commited to this line - for now at least. Picked up wave 1 and loved it, and the next two look even better. I'm really hoping that the classic Firestorm is the regular one. Firestorm #12 was the first comic I ever bought (85 or 86?), so I'm pretty excited about the prospect of a classic figure. Couldn't care less about the new one though.
I'm in the same boat as a few other people though. Seeing this line makes me want a few of the other line. Big wants on the list are Darkseid, Braniac and Luthor. As Brent said, they never made it to his and my end of the woods, so I've never seen them. If anyone has extras kicking around let me know. If not, one of these days I'll hunt them down.
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Wanna cheap Firestorm from a different series? ;)
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I was just looking through some pics, and saw this one (http://www.thefwoosh.com/b0bb33z3r/DCUC_Wave_0a.jpg) at The Fwoosh showing the DCUC Wave 2 and 3 lineup. Just a nice pic of everything together, and gives a nice idea of scale, etc.
(http://www.thefwoosh.com/b0bb33z3r/DCUC_Wave_0a.jpg)
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Wave 2 has been found on the West Coast (http://www.thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47785&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
Might be a while before my **** ass state gets them, but I'm looking forward to them. That electric Supes BAF piece shouldn't be too hard to come by since both the blue and red Supes comes with the same piece.
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Thanks for the heads up Mikey. I'll be on the lookout as well, although I doubt they'll hit here anytime soon either. I was tempted to order a set of this wave online, but haven't pulled the trigger on that yet. It sometimes seems easier with the DC (Mattel) stuff to just order online, but hopefully the DCUC distribution will be better. I'm starting to see the Series 1 figures a little more regularly now, or at least some of them. I've really been jazzed about this line lately, it just seems well done from the figures I have or have seen so far. Some of the best stuff we've seen out of Mattel in quite some time at least.
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Is Walmart US still not carrying these? Just curious, because the only non-comic shop Canadian retailer carrying them is Walmart.
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No, Wal-Mart isn't carrying these here yet. From what I've read, it sounds like they're going to "wait and see" how it does at other retailers first. Around here, they haven't really carried much DC stuff for awhile. They carried very little of the DCSH line (clearancing Bizarros at one point), haven't had JLU stuff for years, and sporadically carry the "The Batman" line (I think that's all they have right now). Other than that, its only when a movie comes out it seems.
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It's fairly similar up here and I was quite surprised to see them carrying them. They carried all of one case of DCSH at one of our six stores ::) and nothing but. Mind you I can't blame them since the only shipment that ever arrived north of the border of DCSH was the Superman/Bizzaro/Supergirl wave. I saw the Azrael wave once and thankfully snapped up the Azrael figure. The rest of that stuff has been absurd to find.
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Wave 1 seems to be restocking around here again, and I broke down and picked up Etrigan at TRU yesterday. I like the character fine, and was just one "piece" away from completing the Metamorpho BAF, so I went ahead and picked it up. I didn't originally intend to go completist with this line, but so far - at least through the first three waves - its looking like I might be. Stoopid Grodd and Grundy BAFs to thank for that :).
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What is the retail price on these in the US again?
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TRU and Target here each have them at $9.99.
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Thanks Brian. Walmart up here is selling them for $12.92 or something like that. It's actually getting quite frustrating to see the discrepancies in pricing. I know you guys have had to endure some significant price jumps in the last couple of years (ML for example) but for us it's been hard watching the Canadian dollar equalize and then pass the US greenbuck. Our prices have remained stable and still higher than your stuff. I was hoping we might see some equalization but I guess the only way that's happened is not having our prices go up. Still, Marvel Legends at $14.95 and the DC stuff $3 more at major retailers is frustrating. Same for Star Wars as Walmart up here just jacked prices by $1 to $9.44. Blech. No wonder my interest in toys is waning.
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Thanks Brian. Walmart up here is selling them for $12.92 or something like that. It's actually getting quite frustrating to see the discrepancies in pricing. I know you guys have had to endure some significant price jumps in the last couple of years (ML for example) but for us it's been hard watching the Canadian dollar equalize and then pass the US greenbuck. Our prices have remained stable and still higher than your stuff. I was hoping we might see some equalization but I guess the only way that's happened is not having our prices go up. Still, Marvel Legends at $14.95 and the DC stuff $3 more at major retailers is frustrating. Same for Star Wars as Walmart up here just jacked prices by $1 to $9.44. Blech. No wonder my interest in toys is waning.
That stinks. I have no idea how your income and other taxes play out, but that's a big price discrpancy. Would you save money just ordering from a US company and just paying the extra shipping to get it sent up North? Even if you break even, you'd save on gas costs...
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that stinks. I have no idea how your income and other taxes play out, but that's a big price discrpancy. Would you save money just ordering from a US company and just paying the extra shipping to get it sent up North? Even if you break even, you'd save on gas costs...
Taxes don't help much either, but they're down to 12% from 14% a couple of years back.
As for the US company aspect, yes and no. When I was collecting and army building it was ok buying cases of stuff. The hitch came in shipping. The occasional place was good - Newforce was by far the best with charging me what they were paying and not over declaring values. Plus Rick would use USPS which meant I had to handle the customs fees (which are just the taxes and a surcharge) on my own. But probably every other retailer prefers to use UPS/DHL/FedEx. The first problem is it's more expensive to use them. The second is all of those companies have decided to handle the customs fees for you but in return charge you a brokerage fee. That brokerage fee is bloody obscene and always, always higher than just the customs fees themselves.
When I ordered the Maul mini-saber as part of the MR Collector's Club, they used FedEx to ship it. They also declared the value at double what the actual value was, so basically about $120 CAD. Well, I had to pay the brokerage fee rather than just the customs stuff. In the end it was about $50 in total, plus driving to the FedEx depot because they were delivering only while I was at work ::) So a $50 US item cost me $100 in the end. MR was no help at all. I emailed them to complain about the double declaration value and they were so messed up by the whole notion that they just never bothered to respond. They screwed up and went :-X I didn't complain about the brokerage fee or choice of shipper, just that they cost me twice as much as they should have in brokerage fees.
Same deal with most other retailers from the US - FedEx/UPS/DHL. BLech, no thanks.
My other option is to get stuff shipped to a US address and have someone forward that crap here. I've had a ton, an absolute freaking ton of help from people getting stuff - Scott, chuckles, JediMac, jadesfire, Jeff and so very many more that it's been unreal. chuckles in particular is a great help as he also allows me to use his address for US only ebay auctions. But it becomes burdensome and annoying to those people and to their spouses as well, so I try to minimize that. chuckles/Jim is the exception because I'm able to help him out with some orders of stuff online and then I pay for stuff for him and that offsets the shipping of my stuff to me. It's a great partnership but there's no doubt I'm the major beneficiary.
HTS.com is a pretty good option overall, but they don't carry everything (DC, Mattel, McFarlane, etc) and then they don't necessarily have everything I want in stock at a given time anyway. THey've also managed to hose me on shipping even when I've clearly checked ship only when everything is in stock - they'll ship piecemeal and charge me for the shipping. Yeah, I can go and chase them and get the shipping charges reversed, but that's a pain in the ass too.
But it can be cheaper when I go Newforce, providing the case assortments are right. The biggest thing I'm lacking is a network like the MN group where I can move extras. 'Most' stuff gets here, so people just buy it at retail. Some doesn't and they seem to find it elsewhere. I'm only able to move stuff when it's below retail and costing me money, not really worth it.
Doing this collecting thing for 13+ years is a bit of a grind and I think I'm wearing down. I'm not going to stop, but I'm just losing so much interest in stuff and it's seemingly just a way better strategy to get stuff a couple of years when some fool, just like me, is clearing out loose stuff for a fraction of the original cost. :-\
Sorry, not meaning to turn this into a bitch fest, just trying to explain more than anything else.
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Looks like the Classics Series 2 is hitting the midwest. I saw some on ebay from a St. Louis seller the other day and I found the two Supermen at Target in the KC area yesterday. I'm hoping to hit up a couple of Targets on lunch today and with any luck I'll score the rest. I'm anxious to pick up Manta and Harley.
John
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This makes me a bit nervous. The local comic shop that I bought series 1 from said that series 2 hasn't even been solicited through diamond. And I know that I never get around to toy stores with enough frequency to find these things. I'm looking forward to getting them, and my 3 year old is really looking forward to building Gorilla Grodd (though he's more excited about Solomon Grundy in series 3). Ah well, if all else fails I suppose there is ebay. I prefer not to go that route though.
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Has anyone been finding Series 2 about at retail yet? I've seen a few reports of it being found across the country, but it doesn't seem to be widespread yet. Our local Target has had the same Penguin in the pegs for awhile now, but there is the "grey sticker" on the pegs, if that means anything. Hopefully they'll be in soon. TRU has had a pretty decent stock of Wave 1, but it does seem like these have been selling pretty well in general around here.
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I saw 1 Superman Red figure at Target last week, thats been it though.
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All I've seen are the two Supermen that one day. I've hit Target, TRU and even K-Mart countless times since then with no luck. :\
John
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I found everything except Aquaman on Saturday at Target...
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I found everything except Aquaman on Saturday at Target...
I found everything except Aquaman yesterday at TRU...
Pretty happy overall. A few minor complaints about loose joints but I'm glad to have these in the collection. Even found an excuse to buy electric Supes - just give him to my son and keep Grodd's arm. He had his choice, red or blue. He picked blue and now electric Supes is fighting the Foot Clan with the Ninja Turtles. ;D
Now I have to wait for the greatest wave of action figures ever...
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I also found everything except aquaman. And even without an arm, Gorilla Grodd is awesome. I picked them up at a flea market from a toy dealer - paid about $1.50 more per figure then I would have had I waited to find them at retail - which isn't too bad. These aren't in Canada yet, so I'm not too worried that I've supported a scalper. I'm pretty sure the guy just orders case assortments.
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I got my shipment from BBTS today with Wave 2, so its nice to be all caught up on these. I still haven't seen anything aside from an Electric Supes (Blue) at retail, and its nice not to have these to look for with the upcoming Indy push as well. Anyways, I think the figures are really well done overall - and it seems like Mattel has a winner with this line. I definitely think they have the advantage of seeing what ToyBiz had done with the Legends line, and it made them even stronger out of the gate. I originally only planned on getting Harley and Aquaman, but I'm glad to have the whole wave - particularly the Grodd. I didn't realize it was basically rotocast/hollow, but I don't really mind either. It still looks quite nice. I'm really looking forward to Wave 3, there's a lot of my favorites in that wave with Nightwing, Robin, and GL (not to mention Grundy and the rest). Hopefully it isn't too long of a wait for that wave.
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Amok Time (http://www.amoktime.com/detail.asp?product_id=mat10802&subcat=612) has wave 2 in stock. Got mine ordered today. :)
John
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OK, so what's the deal with Firestorm? On the packages and in Mattel photos he's a black dude. At Toy Fair he was a black dude. But *every* figure I've seen so far (including every current eBay auction) he's a white dude. Is a black dude version out there, or did Mattel just change their mind and decide to make him a white dude?
John (the other white dude)
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The black dude is the variant (and the current Firestorm in the comics). I don't think the revised cases with him in it have been released yet.
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My understanding is that the alternate firestorm and aquaman aren't really variants (same as Red Tornado from wave 1). They are, but they aren't chase figures (with skewed ratios). Rather, the first release of the figures is supposed to have the classic look of the characters, after which each release will alternate the figure. Can't remember where I read that, and don't know if it's true. But the next batch of released figures should have the modern look of the characters.
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If anyone comes across the maskless Bale Batman from the movie masters line and are not interested please keep me in mind. I will gladly take it off your hands.
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Bad news for drewlam and I. Walmarts restocked with Wave 1 yet again. Sales had slowed considerably of late and I think this might not bode well for us Canadians going forward as these will sit for a while. I know Drew picked them up at the flea market already and Scott helped me out, so we're both fine. But I'm wondering about the future waves. It seems like Mattel has a really poor handle on distribution up here and we saw that with the previous Superman/Batman line. Getting the same wave of Superman/Bizarro/Supergirl over and over and over again killed it at TRU, I'm guessing getting wave 1 of DSCH over and over and over again will kill this line at Walmarts up here. :-\ On top of that, because it has been available at major retailers, the comic shops locally haven't touched the line and reasonably so.
I'm thinking I might as well put my order in for wave 3 with Scott right now, because it'll be months if it shows up here, if at all. The only duplicate figure I already own a version of that I'm happy with is the Robin figure. Well, I have a really nice Alex Ross Green Lantern as well, but I'm not opposed to a second GL in my collection. Consistency of scale is such a huge thing and it seems DCSH has got a handle on that, so good for them.
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Bad news for drewlam and I. Walmarts restocked with Wave 1 yet again. Sales had slowed considerably of late and I think this might not bode well for us Canadians going forward as these will sit for a while. I know Drew picked them up at the flea market already and Scott helped me out, so we're both fine. But I'm wondering about the future waves. It seems like Mattel has a really poor handle on distribution up here and we saw that with the previous Superman/Batman line. Getting the same wave of Superman/Bizarro/Supergirl over and over and over again killed it at TRU, I'm guessing getting wave 1 of DSCH over and over and over again will kill this line at Walmarts up here. :-\ On top of that, because it has been available at major retailers, the comic shops locally haven't touched the line and reasonably so.
I'm thinking I might as well put my order in for wave 3 with Scott right now, because it'll be months if it shows up here, if at all. The only duplicate figure I already own a version of that I'm happy with is the Robin figure. Well, I have a really nice Alex Ross Green Lantern as well, but I'm not opposed to a second GL in my collection. Consistency of scale is such a huge thing and it seems DCSH has got a handle on that, so good for them.
I share you're concerns. My Wal-Mart recently picked up wave 1 for the third time. The first two times it sold quite well, but this time it is moving considerably slower. I'm going to be extremely disappointed if Mattel Canada screws this up due to poor distribution, because initially these figures were selling really well. If they just kept up with proper distribution they'd have a real winner on thier hands.
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Here's an odd question for those of you residing in the US.
Do you see a lag in toy releases generelly between end of March and end of June?
I'm wondering if that's driving the slow release of DCUC2 down there and up here. I know in Canada a couple of retailers I basically write-off and don't even really visit when doing a toy run between March and July because they don't really carry much in the way of "indoor toys" during this time. Even TRU and Walmart, consistent sources, don't seem to restock much at all.
Now I'm not counting the movie based toys in general because those always seem to make it out regardless, but the more traditional action figure lines like Star Wars (I know the SW break is 'planned' this time), Marvel Legends or now DCUC. I'm wondering if we're seeing a seasonal lag or whether the action figure stuff is generally in decline. I'm quite surprised to see how poor the distribution of DCUC is in the US as well. Or is this just the usual Mattel antics with a good (or bad) line and crappy distribution overall.
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Brent, I usually see the slow down earlier in the year. Makes sense - it's after the holiday shopping blitz and stores clean house and start their inventory for the new year. New stuff usually starts to show up consistently late March / early April. Can't say that the summer months are a down time, but I honestly have never really thought about it. Although I am seeing some pretty consistent restocks on most of the stuff I collect - I just keep missing the items I want and get stuck looking at stuff I already have. Case in point, my local TRU has restocked DCUC 2 at least three times now that I've seen and I still have yet to see an Aquaman there (classic or modern). In fact, I've only seen Aquaman once, at the local CD/DVD/Comic/Toys/Pop Culture Crap store. And I would have gladly paid the $13 for it if it wasn't the modern version. Eventually I'll find that bastard and my Grodd won't be armless anymore and Black Manta will actually have someone to fight instead of standing around like a dumbass.
I just pre-ordered a case of wave 3. I don't feel like taking any chances on me missing out on the greatest wave of action figures ever. That means I'll have an extra figure and if early case assortments are correct, that'll be Green Lantern. Would anyone be interested in that extra figure? (hint to our resident GL fan :-*)
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I just pre-ordered a case of wave 3. I don't feel like taking any chances on me missing out on the greatest wave of action figures ever. That means I'll have an extra figure and if early case assortments are correct, that'll be Green Lantern. Would anyone be interested in that extra figure? (hint to our resident GL fan )
I did the same. Mattel is spotty at best around here, and I didn't want to miss out on this wave. I'm a fan of Nightwing (and all the Batman universe, of course), so I'm happy we're getting a nice new Nightwing and Robin in this wave - not to mention the amazing Hal Lantern (and Sinestro/Deathstroke). Just a dandy of a wave overall. I've ended up (once this ships) buying the first three waves in their entirety, so I have to decide what to do from here on out. It might be time to start picking and choosing, and go back to my original plan of all Batman-Universe figs, the JLA, and maybe a main adversary for each of them (like Lantern/Sinestro, Flash/Cap Cold, Wonder Woman/Cheetah, etc.) Of course, I sort of want to get some of the other Titans should they be released. Aaah, where to draw the line? Oh well, at least there aren't quite as many Legends to go after anymore since the line has been explored fairly in-depth already.