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Title: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2005, 02:21 PM
Vote. (http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/i_love_the_holidays/i_love_toys/)

I voted for:
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe
GI Joe
Nintendo
Transformers
Slime
water guns
Star Wars action figures
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 02:24 PM
kind of a skimpy list!! But I voted!!
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Commander Cody on November 20, 2005, 02:48 PM
Kids today, with your rock 'em sock 'em robots... and your spirographs... and your Moby Grape!
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Reid on November 20, 2005, 07:57 PM
I voted for:

-Star Wars Action Figures
-BB Guns
-Water Guns
-Lego
-D&D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2005, 11:35 PM
Star Wars not even in the top 5 so far.  TO me that says a lot...  SW has had so many up's and down's it's amazing.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: JoshEEE on November 21, 2005, 12:34 AM
That was a pretty good list. Choosing between all of those was hard, but I selected quite a few.  I added Jem and the Holograms on there for Heather, who would be very upset with me if I did not.  ;D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2005, 12:46 AM
I think the list was mixed for the rage age-ranges...  I know I didn't have a hard time picking out 20 but I also didn't have a hard time leaving the rest behind too.

I picked (not all):

-Star Wars
-GIJoe (my #1 btw)
-Legos
-Erector Sets
-Lincoln Logs
-Monopoly
-Clue
-Silly Putty
-Nintendo
-Atari

I picked a full 20 but I don't even recall who all I looked at.  Oh yeah and I picked BB Guns too because god knows if you didn't have a red rider as a child, you were deprived.  One of the funnest toys I ever had (if you can consider a BB Gun a toy), and I still bust out the old bb gun and pop off at some cans across the road.  It was a toy I used religiously and it made me more than a capable shot when the time came for me to graduate up to real guns...  I owe my abilities in competition shoots because of that old hand-me-down red rider rifle.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Chris M on November 21, 2005, 07:39 AM
I don't remember everything that I voted for but I did vote for the following:

Star Wars
GI Joe
Big Wheel
Playstation
Transformers

Most of those shaped my formative years, with the exception of the PS.  I also listed Trivial Pursuit because my family plays it all the time now.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: stormie on November 21, 2005, 12:12 PM
Apparently, the list can't count, because I tried to submit these 20:

1. Atari
2. Bicycle
3. Colorforms
4. Crayola Crayons
5. Etch A Sketch
6. Evil Knievel Doll & Motorcycle Set
7. G.I. Joe
8. Green Plastic Army Men
9. LEGO
10. Little Golden Books
11. Nerf
12. PlayDoh
13. Shrinky Dinks
14. Silly Putty
15. Six Million Dollar Man Doll
16. Star Wars figures
17. Tinker Toys
18. Viewmaster
19. Water Guns
20. Weebles

But it said I "could only select 20." So, I eliminated #10. Little Golden Books (who needs to read, anyway), and resubmitted my list.  :P

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: rishakra on November 22, 2005, 12:57 PM
I keep voting and voting for Star Wars.  Heck, you can vote as much as you like and I like Star Wars so I'm voting and voting and voting...
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Ook on November 22, 2005, 01:09 PM
I voted:

Atari
He-man
Nintendo
Silly Putty
Slime
Star Wars
Stretch Armstrong (It was really Stretch Monster I loved! ;D)
Transformers

Where the hell are comics and/or Marvel Superhero toys? ???
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 22, 2005, 09:05 PM
My choices, alphabetically:

Connect Four
GI Joe
He-Man & the MOTU
Hungry Hungry Hippos
LEGO
Lite Brite
Models
Monopoly
Play Doh
RC Cars
Smurfs
SW (duh)
Tinker Toys
Transformers
Trivial Pursuit
Uno

I had a lot of fun reminiscing while looking at that list.   :)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Brian on December 13, 2005, 03:42 PM
I did a quick vote again today on a whim, and afterwards saw that for the first time (that I've checked it anyways) Star Wars is in the "hot list" for today.  Hopefully it ends up there at the end of all this.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 13, 2005, 03:56 PM
I did a quick vote again today on a whim, and afterwards saw that for the first time (that I've checked it anyways) Star Wars is in the "hot list" for today.  Hopefully it ends up there at the end of all this.

I voted again too, and was happy to see He-Man and Transformers alongside Star Wars.

(C'mon GI Joe and TMNT!)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Brian on March 7, 2006, 11:28 AM
Has anyone been watching this yet?  It started last night, with numbers 100-81, and continues through Friday (9 CST).  I'm curious to see where Star Wars figures land, I would hope in the top 10, but you never know.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Madcow on March 7, 2006, 11:42 AM
Has anyone been watching this yet?  It started last night, with numbers 100-81, and continues through Friday (9 CST).  I'm curious to see where Star Wars figures land, I would hope in the top 10, but you never know.

I was waiting impatiently for this all day yesterday. Such a great show. 81-100 were kinda lame toys but I guess that's why they put them at the end of the list, lol. I also really liked the little added skits they did like "A Day in the life of Cobra Commander", funny sh!t. Can't wait to watch tonight...
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 7, 2006, 05:39 PM
According to Han 506, these are the top ten!!  Posted below, so don't scroll down if you want to watch the show!! ;)






















100 Greatest Toys #'s 20-1
1. Hula Hoop
2. Barbie
3. LEGO
4. G.I. Joe
5. Mr. Potato
6. Monopoly
7. Star Wars Figure
8. Yo-Yo
9. Slinky
10. Wiffle Ball & Bat
11. Play Doh
12. Radio Flyer
13. Snoopy Sno Cone Machine
14. Bike
15. Match Box/Hot Wheels
16. Etch-A-Sketch
17. Rock'em Sock'em
18. Scrabble
19. Easy Bake Oven
20. ATARI


While I agree with pretty much most of them, the number one spot looks questionable to me!! I mean Hula Hoop?? Does anyone acually play with those anymore, I know they barely did when i was a kid!!  Barbie so deserves the tops spot, the number 1 girls toy since it's inception, I think!! I wonder though is that GI JOE in general or 12 inch or 3 inch?? Oh and the NES should have beat out the Atari!!
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: dafoo on March 7, 2006, 06:21 PM
Hoola Hoops were all the rage for like a decade.  It had a lot of impact back then, so I can see that winning.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 7, 2006, 07:12 PM
You had to be born in the 60's/early 70's to appreciate this list. Atari was first-competitors were intellivision and colecovision-the competitors seem to have better graphics but had way less game inventory. Nintendo wasn't available for a long time  later ::). Atari is appropriately placed. I agree with the hula hoop-I'll bet the Canadian 'Old Man' could elaborate. I remember girls taking them to school, on the bus, to the bus stop ect.

Personally, I think SW toys should have been placed ahead of GI Joe, but Joe's been around alot longer and unlike Atari VS nintendo has survived the competition for the remaining decades.   
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Ben on March 8, 2006, 03:22 AM
If I hear anything about He-Man being gay when MOTU comes up on the countdown, I will completely boycott VH1 forevermore. (Which isn't as hard as one thinks, since they don't have anything worth watching...)

Yeah, we can see that he runs around in furry underwear. Can we think of something else to say?
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Mikey D on March 8, 2006, 07:37 AM


100 Greatest Toys #'s 20-1
1. Hula Hoop
2. Barbie
3. LEGO




Purple is a horrid color.


 I mean Hula Hoop?? Does anyone acually play with those anymore, I know they barely did when i was a kid!!

Just saw a little girl the other night playing with one, so yes, kids still do play with them.  Just because they're beneath you, doesn't mean others feel the same way.  They're cheap, actually involves some skill and gets kids out of the house, so I have no problem with Hula Hoops being #1.

Oh and the NES should have beat out the Atari!!


Stop looking through your rose colored glasses.  Atari came first and without it, there would be no Nintendo.  Nintendo just improved on the concept, but Atari started the concept.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Madcow on March 8, 2006, 10:35 AM
You had to be born in the 60's/early 70's to appreciate this list.

I highly disagree with that. I was born in 1978 and I remember most of these toys from my youth. They've been doing alot of 80's toys on the list. If you were born in the late 60's it would've been outta your age range. By that calculation, you'd be playing with Mego Super Heroes and i'm curious if those are even going to be on the list...

I think Atari is right where is should be. It really paved the way for the Video Games today. Nintendo helped the advancement tremndously but without Atari who knows where we would be today???

GI Joe was the first "Action Figure" so it deserves it's spot in the top 10. Like the Atari/Nintendo debate I don't think SW toys would have been what they were without GI Joe...
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 12:00 PM
You had to be born in the 60's/early 70's to appreciate this list. Atari was first-competitors were intellivision and colecovision-the competitors seem to have better graphics but had way less game inventory. Nintendo wasn't available for a long time  later ::).


Well I think if it wasn't for Pong, and his inventor, none of it would be available!! But besides that, if it wasn't for Nintendo in 1985, only two years, not your supposed "long time later",  Atari crashed the home video game market, we wouldn't have the home market the way it is today!!

Sure Atari was first, I had one, it was one of my favorite things at the time. However, it was Atari who helped bring about the demise of the home gaming market in 1983. They were the ones who allowed any lil ol company to design games for their system. It was their lack of standards that ended up flooding the market with schlock games that gave both its systems.

Now had Nintendo, and in small part Sega, not come in in 1985 with their systems, then we woudn't have what we have today! It was Nintendo and their NES that set the standards that we still see to this day!

First off, not anyone could make games for their system! I don't know what exactly the standards they set entailed for third party companies to make games for their system, but it allowed for greater control of the home gaming market! Sure companies like Tengen would make games, but not until the very end of the NES' lifespan did they ever get one of their games to receive the Nintendo Seal of Approval.

The Seal of Approval also allowed for a uniformity among games. If you remember the Atari, the cartridges that 3rd party companies came out with were out there. Not one company had the same design. Look at ColecoVision, Intellivision, Imagic, Activision, Parker Bros, Data East, they all had different looking cartridges. It may not mean much to the gamers, but to Nintendo, it helped build a standard! When you looked at a cartridge, you know what system that game goes to!!

Now as I said before Atari did nothing to prevent the saturation of the market with games!! Aside from the many different companies, coming out with games, too games were being released by just one name. Nintendo created strict regulations that allowed a software company to make only 5 games per year, that was it! It was the kind of decision that was needed to prevent what happened, only two years earlier, to occur again!

What software companies did was to create subsidary companies!! For example, Ultra Games was a subsidary of Konami!! Which is why if you look, the first Metal Gear was uner the Ultra label!!

It is because of this and so many other reasons, why IMHO, the NES should be in a higher spot than Atari!! Mikey D, I think you need to step back and see if you are just arguing a point because it's me making it, or do you truly believe what you're saying! It's no rose colored glasses I look through, maybe you ought to put down yours!!

Oh and just because you see one lil girl playing a Hula Hoop, that doesn't invalidate my statement!! I still say Barbie being the number 1 girls toy since I think it's inception should be listed as number 1 on vh1 's list!! It's not a preference either, I was never too much into Barbie, I had some, but it's what I believe to be closer to reality that the Hula Hoop being number 1. I mean Hula Hoop was the rage for a decade like someone said, but Barbie has been the rage for decades! Emphasis on the plural!! That's one to grow on Mikey D.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 8, 2006, 12:03 PM
You had to be born in the 60's/early 70's to appreciate this list.

I highly disagree with that. I was born in 1978 and I remember most of these toys from my youth. They've been doing alot of 80's toys on the list. If you were born in the late 60's it would've been outta your age range. By that calculation, you'd be playing with Mego Super Heroes and i'm curious if those are even going to be on the list...


How much you know about these toys on the list and how long folks have been playing with them...

yoyo-                 500BC
bike-                   ?
radio flyer         -1917
Lego                 -1934
monopoly         -1935
slinky                -1945
scrabble            -1949
Mr. potato head-1952
wiffle ball & bat -1953
Matchbox cars   -1953
play doh           -1956
hula hoop         -1958
barbie               -1959
etch a sketch    -1960
easy bake oven-1963
Gi Joe                -1964
rock 'em sock... -1967
hot wheels       -1968
Atari                 -1977
Sw toys            -1977-78
Snoopy snow   -1979
cone machine

You remember alot of these toys because they've been in production since before you were born ::). how many 80's developments are on here? since there IS a lot of 60-70's first production runs on here I can appreciate it-I think it goes to show that the toys that won on this program have withstood the test of time.

I don't even know what a mega-super hero is? In my youth I loved HW's, matchbox, SW,monoploy,lego and my aquaman underoos thank you.
  
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 12:29 PM
GI Joe was the first "Action Figure" so it deserves it's spot in the top 10. Like the Atari/Nintendo debate I don't think SW toys would have been what they were without GI Joe...

Well GI JOE was the first action doll, it was Kenner President at the time that changed and revoltionized the market, by holding up his fingers and saying "how about this wide" ;) Sure there were a few other lines, but it was the uber popularity of Star Wars that changes the market throughout the 80's!! ;D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 8, 2006, 12:53 PM
Well I think if it wasn't for Pong, and his inventor, none of it would be available!! But besides that, if it wasn't for Nintendo in 1985, only two years, not your supposed "long time later",  Atari crashed the home video game market, we wouldn't have the home market the way it is today!!
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Atari public released - 1977=long time earlier
While I will a agree that Nintendo made the video game industry 'better' they certainly didn't revolutionize the toy industry by creating the first home entertianment(video game) system(see Atari). Nintendo's play on the matter was only a very successful/parasitical improvement. This is why the root gets rated higher. Nintendo corp and Sega would have never been created if they hadn't seen Atari's success. Not only this but Atari paralleled with VHs companies helped revolutionize the home entertainment center furniture that we see today in our homes.

Pong was a good idea but was initially only an arcade game not a home video game system-when it did become that it wasn't a mass multi-game platform either-with different vendors making games for 1 system.

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 01:14 PM
Oh I wholeheartedly agree that the Atari created the first craze, I was a part of that craze!! Got mine I think for X-Mas 81 or 80??? You're right it was they who started the first home system craze, I don't deny that!! I just think that Nintendo created the second and ongoing craze!! They didn't lead to the downfall of the market like Atari did! That's really why I think the NES deserves the top spot!!

I think the current home gaming system phase went from NES, Genesis, SNES, Playstation, PS2, X-Box. I left out many a system, I just put in the ones I think left or are leaving a mark!!  I left out the Sega CD, N64, Atari Jaguar, Dreamcast, and the Gamecube.

Oh and I happen to think NES was the first system to be multigenerational!! I think it was the most popular system ever, I don't have the numbers, but I want to say 1 out of every 2 or so households had one!! It was a great time to be a kid!! ;D Atari I don't think reached the masses quite like the NES and Nintendo did!!

Oh and while I do sing the praises of the NES, I think they were replaced by the Playstation!! IMHO, the Playstation became the NES of the 90's!!
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 8, 2006, 01:29 PM
if  -atari(never was created)..then where's nintendo?

Atari -nintendo..atari's still there then. without atari, nintendo or any of the other sytems would have never existed despite their successes which is why their logically placed ahead :-*
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 01:59 PM
I love you too :-*

But even if there was no Atari, there was still the Colecovision, the Intellivision, and the Sears Home System ;D Yeah, I know it was the Atari sans the Atari name!! But you know there were other systems out there!!

Hey I've admitted that the Atari was first, and created a craze, but at least can you concede that they were the ones to blame for the craze to inplode on itself!!

You have got to give it to Nintendo, they revived a two year old dead market, had they not, we wouldn't have anything right resembling what we have!! Come on, you can't deny that!! If you do, then you are just too loyal to Atari!! ;D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Morgbug on March 8, 2006, 02:08 PM
You had to be born in the 60's/early 70's to appreciate this list. Atari was first-competitors were intellivision and colecovision-the competitors seem to have better graphics but had way less game inventory. Nintendo wasn't available for a long time  later ::). Atari is appropriately placed. I agree with the hula hoop-I'll bet the Canadian 'Old Man' could elaborate. I remember girls taking them to school, on the bus, to the bus stop ect.

Personally, I think SW toys should have been placed ahead of GI Joe, but Joe's been around alot longer and unlike Atari VS nintendo has survived the competition for the remaining decades.   

You mean Dale?  

Some of the list is geared to older generations, but much of it is geared towards considerably younger folks as well.  

Some comments:
GI Joe was extremely popular through the 60s and 70s in the 12" scale and remained popular with the switch to the smaller line as well, on to this day.  If you don't discern between scales or the focus (military or cartoon), then I'd suggest a near-50 year popularity is deserving of the position it achieved.  Star Wars, while we all love it, is a more recent phenomenon and until the prequels I don't think it was as hugely popular as GI Joe has been for a long time.  Yes, it was popular during the initial run of toys, no doubt about it, but GI Joe probably matched it dollar for dollar, outside of movie years.  

How can Hot Wheels not even appear on the list?  Jokes about hot wheels collectors aside you take a quality product that has sold extremely well for nearly 40 years, is still an affordable toy that in various incarnations dominates the boy's toy market and it's not even on the list?  Huh?  

Barbie certainly merits the position it holds.  I'm sure most of you don't ever go near that section in TRU, but I have a five year old daughter and I can tell you this, Barbie kicks Star Wars ass all over the place in terms of $$.  But the notion of them taking up an entire aisle at TRU is a relatively new phenomenon.  It's also a fairly high price point toy, or at least it was.  The old 12" GI Joe's and Barbie's were popular, but they tended to be more of a middle to upper class toy.  Not every kid had a 12 GI Joe when I was growing up, not by a long shot.  It was the "rich" kids that did.  Forgive me for saying, but society has changed dramatically from what priorities were to what they are now.  Gratification must be immediate these days at the expense of rather substantial and sometimes crushing debt.  It used to be embarrassing to carry lots of debt beyond your mortgage (and possibly car payment), now it's the norm.  I don't have a reference for it, but I believe the average credit card debt in the US now tops $10,000.  Toys, microwaves, huge color tv's, home theater systems are considered necessities (erroneously) these days.  I've seen television interviews with welfare mothers that have three or four kids and THEY have a bigger tv and stacks of X-BOX games sitting beside them.  Maybe, just maybe there's a reason they're on welfare, because they can't manage priorities worth a ****.  Oh wait, this isn't the pet peeves thread.  My bad.

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I don't even know what a mega-super hero is?
That's probably supposed to be Mego Super hero.  Surely you read Twisted Toyfare Theater?  Then you are familiar with the Mego line, the precursor to the bulk of the superhero toys that exist today.

Hula Hoops: From Jon's list they were created in 1958.  I clearly remember them being quite popular (as in almost every kid had one) until the video game craze really took hold in the 80's, so virtually 30 years there.  Additionally I can find them in just about any store that sells toys year round, more so in summer.  
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They're cheap, actually involves some skill and gets kids out of the house, so I have no problem with Hula Hoops being #1.
Ayup, well deserved position overall.  It wasn't a single decade, it's five decades of popularity.  Barbie may share a similar time frame and may currently be more popular, but price may be a differential factor as well.  Try to remember as well that the hula hoop was probably the most popular toy for a goodly chunk of the baby boom, versus when most of youse younguns were born as Gen Xers.  There's a whole lot less of you.  And aside from Dale and maybe Bob if he rolls in here, there aren't a lot of other boomers around.  That said, I still can't find many households that don't have one around.  And for those born prior to the video game craze (hey, my neighbour had a Pong game and it rokked), times were a might different than they have been for the last 20 years.  We actually went outside and did ****. 

I wonder though if BB guns were left off the final list for politically correct considerations.  Up here you're a bit hard pressed to even find toy guys, they're so politically incorrect these days.  Having grown up with toy guns myself and moved onto pellet guns (screw BBs, pellets have a higher velocity AND you could get darts 8)) I don't for a second buy into the PC bull**** about it leading to gun use.  Certainly not in a negative sense.  Hell, we used to take our pellet guns and go into a buddy's basement that was unfinished and play the equivalent of paintball with pellet guns.  Oh sure, we wore plastic visors.  Sometimes. ;)






Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Brian on March 8, 2006, 02:53 PM
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I wonder though if BB guns were left off the final list for politically correct considerations.  Up here you're a bit hard pressed to even find toy guys, they're so politically incorrect these days.  Having grown up with toy guns myself and moved onto pellet guns (screw BBs, pellets have a higher velocity AND you could get darts ) I don't for a second buy into the PC bull**** about it leading to gun use.  Certainly not in a negative sense.  Hell, we used to take our pellet guns and go into a buddy's basement that was unfinished and play the equivalent of paintball with pellet guns.  Oh sure, we wore plastic visors.  Sometimes.

Actually, BB guns were featured on Monday night, in the 100-81 segment.  I don't remember where they ranked specifically, but it was somewhere in that group.  I agree with Brent, I don't think they necessarily lead to gun use later on.  The majority of my friends and I had bb guns, and the majority of us now don't have any gun...hunting or otherwise....in our possession.  They were just for fun, shooting cans, or maybe birds...and not much else.  Granted, I grew up in a farming community, but the majority of boys around there had one growing up.

Nice to read everyone's opinions on things, and to be open minded about this.  I can see why hula hoops, and especially Barbie, would be ranked so highly and I'm glad we're not just all complaining that Star Wars or something else should be higher.  I know when the Mrs. and I were watching it the other night, she asked me where I thought Star Wars would be ranked.  I told her I hoped it would be in the top 10, and I'd be happy with that.  Good points made about GI Joe, which...in one scale or another...has been going strong for a long, long time now.  And, as much as I like the vintage (and modern) Star Wars lines, I can say growing up that more of my friends probably had a large (3 3/4") Gi Joe collection than had Star Wars.  It was evenly spread for the most part.  I think I probably had about the same number of each, as well as having quite a few He-Man figures.  Anyways...good points everyone, its nice to hear different perspectives from everyone, and from different age ranges.  Its definitely been fun to watch this week so far.  We were talking, it kind of makes you long for those simpler days...when simple, cheap toys kept us entertained.  Just last night, they had colorforms on the list...and as silly as those seem now (removable stickers on a cardboard "backdrop"), I had a Spidey/Hulk set when I was a kid that I played with quite a bit.  Funny how things have changed, or at least it seems like it.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: dafoo on March 8, 2006, 02:59 PM
NES is great!  But Sega Genesis, oh I love that system.  Genesis is also super durable, mine still works.  My NES died a decade ago, and I still have it.  I hope for a future where I can play my NES again.  :'(

Morgbug, debt was a lot more serious back 25-30 years ago given the massive interest rates.  I don't believe many people even realize the vast difference from the last 70's to today.  I can't fathom interest rates like that!

Hot Wheels collectors are just as fanatic as Star Wars people.  So many times I've run into old men rummaging in the pegs of hot wheels while I dig among the Star Wars figures.  Or that poor WalMart employee that got sent into the back to find a particular car, with the YELLOW interior, heh.

Really, the 80's rocked for Boys toys.  I can't claim girls toys, as I wasn't one. =p  GI Joe, Star Wars, NES, MOTU, LEGOs, Cartoons, toy guns...it was just great!  Heading off to the toy store was a grand adventure.  You didn't have the silly PC trash trying to de-boy boys or social engineer them with pills and captian planet.  *rolls eyes*

It is sad, that after so long, GI Joe is next to dead.   :'(
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: ruiner on March 8, 2006, 03:03 PM
I'm staying away from the all-inclusive list because I'm watching them "live" to see where everything ends up.

Great show for people who are into toys and remember the nostalgia behind all time favorites like the Rubick's cube, Barbie, and GI Joe.

I work in marketing so it's interesting for me to take a trip back in time and try to figure out what the marketers from the good old days were thinking....

Imagine how cool it would've been to be the one behind GI Joe, Lazer Tag, My Little Pony, etc.

 :D

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 03:13 PM
Really, the 80's rocked for Boys toys.  I can't claim girls toys, as I wasn't one. =p  GI Joe, Star Wars, NES, MOTU, LEGOs, Cartoons, toy guns...it was just great!  Heading off to the toy store was a grand adventure. 

Yes it was even for a girl, for me it went like this!!

Star Wars, Atari, Masters of the Universe, Atari, odds and end toys then like Go Bots, GPK stickers, MASK, Max Steele, Sectaurs, Centurions, and whatever other line was out in the 80's, finally into Transformers, GI JOE, TMNT!!  What a decade it was!!
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: dafoo on March 8, 2006, 03:19 PM
Good GOSH! How could I forget so many lines!?  All so awesome. 

And now we get to today.  I wander the TOY aisles in silent sadness, most toys just stink now.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 03:37 PM
Well the problem is what me and Slothus have been discussing, video games!! Those and only those are the reasons why toy lines just aren't as popular anymore!! After the NES came, kids gravitated to it, and any subsequent system!! Toys are only bought by young kids who haven't gotten into video games, and by us "big kids" ;D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on March 8, 2006, 03:48 PM
While I still played (and still do) with my toys, I asked for the NES for my birthday for only one reason:  to play KUNG FU at home!  Loved that game!
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: dafoo on March 8, 2006, 04:20 PM
Yeah,  video games are killing normal toys.  All the kids I know are having a loss of imagination too.  They need to get a creative work out!  Even now you can't do everything in a video game that you can 'do' with your toys.  But that's advancing so fast worrisome.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 8, 2006, 04:56 PM
While I still played (and still do) with my toys, I asked for the NES for my birthday for only one reason:  to play KUNG FU at home!  Loved that game!

Oh hell yeah, it was the most simple of games, but it was so addicting!!

And dafoo, you are so right!! Kids just don't have the imagination, and video games are one reason to blame, another has to be TV, and yet another DVDs!! I mean it's always been there, but now it seems that kids have TV's in their room almost as soon as they're born!! ;) So for those that have em, why bother with toys, you can assault your senses and have everything given to you!! No need to think!! :P Oh oh, I hear the video gamers, which I am one, coming to pick a fight!! ;)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: dafoo on March 8, 2006, 05:00 PM
Hey, I love video games as much as the next guy.  I'm still saying the dull the development of an imagination.  Lack of imagination will come to haunt you in spades too.  Think whenever you see a movie that you've already read the book of.  Which was better?  The way you imagined it or the way you saw it?

Granted, most films of books change things so this is a weak point,  :P
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 8, 2006, 05:33 PM
Yeah,  video games are killing normal toys.  All the kids I know are having a loss of imagination too.  They need to get a creative work out!  Even now you can't do everything in a video game that you can 'do' with your toys.  But that's advancing so fast worrisome.

Ha! I've been able to turn back the clock with my kids! They are only allowed to watch discovery channel or animal planet on TV. Sure, they have a PS2 but they really don't play it that much(maybe 1 or 2 times a week). Mostly my son would rather go outside,rally the neighborhood kids, and go in the desert and build a fort or catch lizards/snakes all day. My daughter and son really get along..they're always playing something up. They'll build 'forts' inside the house out of chairs and other furniture and towels and blankets. When they're not building a fort then they play SW for hours(I'm so proud!)! They will also sit down at a table for an hour or two and draw/color. There's no lack of imagination in those 9 and 12 years olds :D. I'm so glad they get along...my sister and I hated each other growing up-can still remember knocking my sister out cold a couple times when she was being a real bitch to me.....still hate that bitch, too. 
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 9, 2006, 08:50 AM
Damn, cold cocked her, knocked her out?? :o

That's good to hear about your kids Slothus. It's really up to the parents to set limits!! I mean if all you do is sit your kids down in front of the TV to keep then "occupied" like in the Cable Guy, then of course he/she is going to miss out on a lot of things that would stimulate their imgination!! That's great that your kids are out there in the neighborhood being kids, not just sitting pressing buttons on their controller, pressing the remote, and what not!! Good for you!! Those kids of yours should grow up to be very level headed kids with wide variety of interests!! Not just couch potatoes!! Of course, wait till they become teens!! ;D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 9, 2006, 10:04 AM
Yes, I CAN wait for that but it's right around the corner too(son is 12) :( :P
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Brian on March 9, 2006, 10:13 AM
Well, a couple of "big ones" were knocked out on the list last night.  He-Man came in at #53, and Transformers at #41.  I was impressed too, they got through discussing He-Man toys without any "gay" comments as they usually go to in their past shows.  It actually got talked up pretty decent, which was a nice change.  Numbers 40-21 is tonight, then onto the final 20 on Friday.  A nice bonus last night, after the episode they aired "When Star Wars Ruled the World".  Nostalgia all over the place last night :P.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Madcow on March 9, 2006, 11:45 AM
You had to be born in the 60's/early 70's to appreciate this list.

I highly disagree with that. I was born in 1978 and I remember most of these toys from my youth. They've been doing alot of 80's toys on the list. If you were born in the late 60's it would've been outta your age range. By that calculation, you'd be playing with Mego Super Heroes and i'm curious if those are even going to be on the list...


How much you know about these toys on the list and how long folks have been playing with them...

yoyo-                 500BC
bike-                   ?
radio flyer         -1917
Lego                 -1934
monopoly         -1935
slinky                -1945
scrabble            -1949
Mr. potato head-1952
wiffle ball & bat -1953
Matchbox cars   -1953
play doh           -1956
hula hoop         -1958
barbie               -1959
etch a sketch    -1960
easy bake oven-1963
Gi Joe                -1964
rock 'em sock... -1967
hot wheels       -1968
Atari                 -1977
Sw toys            -1977-78
Snoopy snow   -1979
cone machine

You remember alot of these toys because they've been in production since before you were born ::). how many 80's developments are on here? since there IS a lot of 60-70's first production runs on here I can appreciate it-I think it goes to show that the toys that won on this program have withstood the test of time.

I don't even know what a mega-super hero is? In my youth I loved HW's, matchbox, SW,monoploy,lego and my aquaman underoos thank you.
  

I wasn't trying to be insulting or rude. I was just pointing out the fact that you didn't need to be born in the late 60's, early 70's to appreciate these toys as you had stated. I never once said that all of these toys were made in the 80's. I'm not that naive nor stupid. And there ARE toys from the 80's on the list:

- Transformers (i'm talking about the US incarnation)
- He-Man/Masters of the Universe
- Rainbow Brite
- Care Bears

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Brian on March 9, 2006, 11:58 AM
One thing I noticed from the past couple night's episodes, an appearance by Chunk (Jeff Cohen) from Goonies!  The first time I've seen him on television aside from that film I think.  Anyways, it was kind of cool to see him as part of this lineup.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 9, 2006, 12:31 PM

I wasn't trying to be insulting or rude. I was just pointing out the fact that you didn't need to be born in the late 60's, early 70's to appreciate these toys as you had stated. I never once said that all of these toys were made in the 80's. I'm not that naive nor stupid. And there ARE toys from the 80's on the list:

- Transformers (i'm talking about the US incarnation)
- He-Man/Masters of the Universe
- Rainbow Brite
- Care Bears



If you were paying attention I was referring to the list of the final top 20 that lady Jay posted in purple....NONE of those toys were born in the 80's ::)
The majority of the toys on the list of the final top 20 are mostly originated from the 50's,60's, 70's 
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Morgbug on March 9, 2006, 03:20 PM

Morgbug, debt was a lot more serious back 25-30 years ago given the massive interest rates.  I don't believe many people even realize the vast difference from the last 70's to today.  I can't fathom interest rates like that!



Interest rates on things like personal loans, mortgages and the like, yes.  I well remember mortgage rates topping in excess of 20%.  At the same time though most people did not carry near the same amount of debt on their credit card.  Additionally credit card interest rates, while lower than the 80s, still runs pretty close to 18-20% and most people make only the minimum payment.  So yeah, I can see where some aspect of doubt has been reduced, but it may well have simply been replaced by puchasing "stuff". 

I can easily see interest rates climbing in the not too distant future as well.  Perhaps not to where they were in the 80s, but certainly higher than they are right now.  And when that happens, it won't matter if it's sitting on your mortgage or on your credit card, it's going to hurt.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 9, 2006, 04:56 PM
I think a lot of the comedians who do these I Love shows are getting really tiresome of it...
some of it just seems repetitive...
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Jeff on March 9, 2006, 05:18 PM
I think a lot of the comedians who do these I Love shows are getting really tiresome of it...
some of it just seems repetitive...

What?  You mean that after "I LOVE THE 80s, Part 15" they might be a bit bored doing the same schtick over and over and over?  :D

I think that VH1 has driven the whole "I love the..." concept right into the ground.  (http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/images/temp/horse.gif)

"I love the 80s" was kinda cool in a way at the start, but VH1 desperately needs some new show ideas.  I don't think they will go very far with The Adventures of Flava Flav 3, I love the 80s part 16, Celebrity Fat People 4, etc etc etc.

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: iFett on March 9, 2006, 10:20 PM
Didn't anybody see Michael Ian Black ask the 8 ball how many more of these shows he'd have to do for VH1?  There's something really wrong with that guy but that's besides the point.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 9, 2006, 10:58 PM
I've loved him ever since that first episode of ED. :)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Brian on March 10, 2006, 10:36 AM
Well, the final 20 are tonight, I'm looking forward to seeing them get to Star Wars action figures.  The NES made an appearance last night, at #21 I believe.  Although VH1 has kind of overdone the "I Love" stuff, I have enjoyed this one.  The first "I Love the 80s" was probably my favorite, but surprisingly they don't seem to re-air those very often.  Usually its the "Strikes Back", "3D", or one of the other decades that are aired and re-aired so often.  They haven't been too bad, but most of the stuff can be covered the first time around.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Nirvana on March 10, 2006, 04:08 PM
I love Michael Ian Black! He's, like, the funniest person on the "I Love..." shows.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 10, 2006, 04:10 PM
I'll see if I can tune in tonight!! I want to see what they give the reasons as to why the Hula Hoop is number one!! ;)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Nirvana on March 10, 2006, 06:44 PM
What time's it on tonight?
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Reid on March 10, 2006, 06:55 PM
What time's it on tonight?

9:30-11 ET.

I'll probably watch it.

 :P
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 11, 2006, 12:08 AM
Well, I enjoyed watching and recanting... I hope everyone remembers what Play-Doh tastes like...

I thought Crayons were under-rated, by the way.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Famine on March 11, 2006, 12:41 AM
I hope everyone remembers what Play-Doh tastes like...

Salt. :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: dafoo on March 11, 2006, 12:53 AM
Yeah I wasn't even thinking about credit card rates, that's a horrible place to carry debt.  20% on a mortgage I can't imagine how people pulled that off. heh

As to kids and too much technology stiffling their imaginations; parents hold the responsiblity, but I think it is harder these days.  Beyond the sexed/culted up versions of children's TV, you have to watch out for those totally out of context commercials for even the "ok" TV shows.  If you just remove the kids totally from TV you then have to search for toys that aren't lousey.  They all make noise, and move and flash lights now.  I remember the late 80's when GI Joe added all the firing missiles, I hated that.  Then there were the action karate chops and color change plastics, batteries included.

Of course we always have Star Wars to fall back on! WOO HOO

I think a lot of the comedians who do these I Love shows are getting really tiresome of it...
some of it just seems repetitive...
<<< I think comedians and mostly the 'hasbeen' actors are just happy for a PAYING gig.  :P  Unless they aren't paid! ACK, the horrors!

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 11, 2006, 12:55 AM
I hope everyone remembers what Play-Doh tastes like...

Salt. :-X

Kevin

Salty, indeed.

 8)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 11, 2006, 02:11 AM
"I find it has a nice picant after taste" :D
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: iFett on March 11, 2006, 05:46 AM
Opps.  I missed last night's episode.  I sure hope VH1 reairs it sometime soon.   ::)

Oh and I have nothing against MIB, I too find his non-expressiveness to be humerous at times.  He's just....odd.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 12, 2006, 11:40 PM
GI Joe #3? Barbie #2?!? This is an outrage!

Also, is the hoola hoop really the best toy of all time? Theres only one thing you can do with it, and it gets old pretty quickly.  ::)

(I didn't expect myself to agree with the list anyway, just a mini rant)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 13, 2006, 12:05 AM
I don't think it is!! Even though I don't collect them, I think Barbie should be at the top spot if anything!! Hot Wheels could be up there too!! But the hula hoop?? Sure it was a fad, but that was a long time ago... ;)
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: name on March 13, 2006, 09:15 AM
I don't think I've ever experienced as strong a wave of nostalgia as when I opened the first playdo can for my kids.   That smell.  Wow.  Instant childhood.  Intoxicating.

On television - we let our son spend a little more time watching movies than some would say we probably should, but he never ever sits slackjawed watching.  It's generally more a background inspiration while he is playing with his toys.

On the I Love series winding down. . .I told Princess the other night that I don't an "VH1's I Love the 'I Love' Shows" can be far behind.  That's when it will finally end.   I'm telling you right now. . .Mo Rocca offering biting commentary on Michael Ian Black's biting commentaries just might open a portal to another dimension.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2006, 12:26 PM
Dare I suggest that the reason that neither G.I. Joe or Barbie got the top spot is because, for the most part, they're both gender-specific toys?  G.I. Joe, of course, being a "boy's toy" (some present company notwithstanding), and Barbie being a toy for girls?  So, they make them numbers two and three, and give the number one spot to a more universal, unisexual toy like the hula-hoop, which everybody can enjoy (although I enjoy hula hoops much more when they're being played with by members of the female persuasion).

And, the last time I went to my neighborhood park, I found a hula-hoop that someone left behind.  So, somebody's still playing with them.  Either that, or that park has a terrible maintenance staff.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: name on March 14, 2006, 05:50 PM
So, they make them numbers two and three, and give the number one spot to a more universal, unisexual toy like the hula-hoop, which everybody can enjoy (although I enjoy hula hoops much more when they're being played with by members of the female persuasion).




Speaking of which. . .has anyone ever asked the Hooters girls to do the Hula Hoop?  They always have them hanging there, but I've never seen them use it.

Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Nathan on March 14, 2006, 06:05 PM
On the I Love series winding down. . .I told Princess the other night that I don't an "VH1's I Love the 'I Love' Shows" can be far behind. That's when it will finally end. I'm telling you right now. . .Mo Rocca offering biting commentary on Michael Ian Black's biting commentaries just might open a portal to another dimension.

Hah! You say that in jest, but last night (technically really early this morning) they ran a "Top 20 Moments" of their Celebreality programming. I kid you not. I was sure the television would implode.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: name on March 14, 2006, 09:34 PM
Man. . .it sucks to be right all the time.
Title: Re: VH1.com's I Love Toys.
Post by: Famine on March 14, 2006, 10:05 PM
Speaking of which. . .has anyone ever asked the Hooters girls to do the Hula Hoop?  They always have them hanging there, but I've never seen them use it.

They make birthday people use them.

My cousin John-boy was tricked into using it.

Kevin