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Title: NFL 2004-05
Post by: Mikey D on September 10, 2004, 07:47 AM: Hell of game last night to start the 2004 season of what could possibly be a glimpse of the AFC Championship game. The Pats win streak is now at 16 in a row, three short of the all time record.

The D-line needs work (Ted Washington going to the Raiders leaves a huge - no pun intended - hole). But they found a way to win, like they always do and that's all that matters. And to do it against the Colts is a plus. This loss may get into the Horses' heads and affect them. They'll always be thinking that they can't beat the Pats.
Title: Re: NFL Preseason '04
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 10, 2004, 02:17 PM: Hey, it's no longer "pre-season." Must...rename...thread...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 12, 2004, 03:41 PM: Portis had 100 yds before the half. He's all the Redskins had on offense, though.

Emmitt Smith had a nice TD run where he looked vintage.

Up next:

Cowboys-Vikings
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on September 12, 2004, 04:15 PM: Steelers 24, Oakland 21, and Jesse +$50.00

:) Here we go Steelers here we go!

The game was REALLY good and Oakland made a nice run at the end that I missed because I had to go pick up some food for supper. Fun to be back in Football season.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on September 13, 2004, 08:50 AM: Some more thoughts on week 1:

*Arizona ******* sucks. Three St. Louis turnovers and they don't do **** with them. Pathetic.
*KC still doesn't have a defense.
*Good start to the McNabb-Owens era in Philly. Philly still needs to work on that run defense, though.
*The Jets might contend in the AFC East.
*The Bengals look to be going in the right direction. Even though they lost, Palmer looked solid and they kept fighting until the end.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 13, 2004, 09:12 AM: I was at the Vikes game yesterday, the first quarter and a half had me a little nervous with a return of a lackluster Defensive Effort against an average offense at best. Once the missed the Field Goal it was pretty much all Vikes from then on

I don't think their D is good enough to get to the Super Bowl, but the O certainly is, its on par with the Vikes of 98 and the Rams of 99, they're that good. Culpepper was amazing and its going to be a fun year rooting for the Purple

Dallas needs some work...I don't see them going back to the Playoffs this year
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Brian on September 13, 2004, 11:14 AM: Some thoughts....

-Culpepper=Good, Vikes could be tough this year.

-Broncos Running Game still looks nice (without Portis), with Quentin Griffin going for 150+. As a Broncos fan, this is nice to see, hopefully it continues. A win over KC is always nice too.

-Charles Rogers injured (collarbone) again. Kind of sad to see this happen to any player, come all the way back from an injury and just get hurt again. Hopefully he's not out the entire season, and not just because he's on my fantasy team :P Always had a soft spot for the Lions for some reason, hopefully they can still be an improved team this year...maybe even .500

-Cincinnati could compete again this year. Although they lost, they didn't give up...and Carson Palmer didn't look half bad. Too bad for Kitna though, after the year he had last season.

-Although I'm not a big fan of his...heck of a debut for T.O. in Philly. Looks like that could be a tough combo this year...still not quite sure if they are Super Bowl team or not, but very possible.

Anyways, glad to see the full NFL schedule on Sunday...nice to have it back. Seems like football season came up faster than usual this year though. Best of luck to everyone's teams this year. Green Bay vs. Carolina tonight should be a good one. Not necessarily a big Packers fan, but always root for Ahman Green, and hope he at least does well.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on September 13, 2004, 09:23 PM: Is this where we go to gloat about Fantasy league stuff? Honest, I have no real idea how the game works, but it can't be that hard, can it? Defending what :-* Pity I didn't start my third string quarterback though.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 14, 2004, 03:01 PM: Quote from: OCB on September 13, 2004, 09:12 AM
Dallas needs some work...I don't see them going back to the Playoffs this year

It's obvious we need Woodson back. And we need another CB. But your defense let a 40 yr old QB throw for 355 yds. I'm reminded of a certain NFC Championship game in which the Vikes were shutout 41-0 when they had the #1 offense in the league. Defense wins championships, and as such, neither Dallas NOR Minnesota should be booking hotel rooms for the Super Bowl just yet.

I really think that Dallas' personnel just don't match up well with the Vikings. And match-ups dictate the NFL. Otherwise last year, Dallas beat Philly who beat Tampa who beat Dallas situations don't happen and the best team always wins.

Also remember that last year, New England lost to the Bills 31-0 on opening day. On "Any Given Sunday"...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 14, 2004, 03:09 PM: Yeah, I pointed out the Vikes D deficiencies already, didn't help their starting Corner didn't even get through pregame warmups. I still say the Vikes O is the best in the league and will get them to the Playoffs, its the D that will determine if they can get to Jacksonville, the thing is, none of the NFC contenders has Super Bowl worthy D's IMO. I think the AFC is far and away ahead of the NFC right now, it might be a while before the NFC catches up again
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 14, 2004, 03:26 PM: I concur. But really, it's about time. How many Super Bowls in a row did the NFC win in the 90s? And what's the overall record AFC vs. NFC? The NFC has been overwhelming since the 70s so it's about time the AFC got back in the driver's seat.

I still think this will be a great season for football!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Nicklab on September 14, 2004, 07:49 PM: Quote from: SPIDERLEGS on September 14, 2004, 03:01 PM
I'm reminded of a certain NFC Championship game in which the Vikes were shutout 41-0 when they had the #1 offense in the league. Defense wins championships, and as such, neither Dallas NOR Minnesota should be booking hotel rooms for the Super Bowl just yet.

Ah, I remember it fondly. Probably the last great game of Jason Sehorn's career. He just shut down Randy Moss that day. Too bad the big, bad D of the Ravens (along with that big, fat tub o' goo, Tony Siragusa!) killed us in the Super Bowl, but we still made it to the big dance that year. Boy, 1986 and 1991 seem like so long ago now.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 14, 2004, 09:28 PM: No way did Jason Sehorn shut down Moss that day, that game was the absolute epitome of "I Play when I wanna play" He still gets ripped for that one in town...

Vikes blew it that year, lost 3 of 4 in December against some mediocre teams and lost homefield advantage. I don't think they would have beat the Ravens though, no way, no how

I do think they have a chance this year but probably should look at next year more realistically, with even more money to spend on a top flight DE and maybe a new LB
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 20, 2004, 10:27 AM: Huge game tonight with the Eagles and Vikings this early in the season. I give the Eagles the advantage because they are at home but Randy loves to light people up on National TV...I think the Vikes have a shot but only if their D plays better than last week and they actually get a pass rush on Donovan

Thanks to the Bears for beating the 2nd most over rated team in Football yesterday...I said it before and I'll say it again, the Lions are the only team I see competing with the Vikes for the North title

Great game between the Colts and Titans yesterday too!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on September 20, 2004, 10:47 AM: Week 2 thoughts and ponderings:

-Pats win streak at 17 now. They never win pretty, though.
-Jags are 2-0 and have scored a total of 20 points. Damn, talk about your defense bailing out your offense.
-Bills are 0-2 and have only allowed 26 points. Talk about your offense not scoring any points for your defense.
-Much like the Pats owning the Colts, the Colts now own the Titans.
-The Ageless One had his first no-catch game since 1985. I'd say that's a pretty good run.
-7 turnovers by the Politiciantown Native Americans and they only lose by 6 points. Classic case of not putting away your opponents.
-The Lions are 2-0. The Cardinals still suck though, so the world's not going to end soon.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on September 20, 2004, 11:28 AM: Quote from: OCB on September 20, 2004, 10:27 AM
I give the Eagles the advantage because they are at home but Randy loves to light people up on National TV...

Don't forget about T.O. - he likes to light people up on National TV too, so he can show off his outrageous touchdown celebrations. Did you forget the Sharpie incident?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 20, 2004, 11:31 AM: I did forget that one, I still think that was brilliant

Should be a great game though, one I am really looking forward too, hopefully the Vikes D is too :-\ And thing about it is, they are supposed to be better, a lot better than they have been. I think its silly to say they don't have a D or the D will let them down again because they are better than they have been the last 3 years...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on September 20, 2004, 11:48 AM: Well, it looks like my 'Hawks have already gotten as many road wins this season as they had last season - 2. If they have figured out how to win on the road, and can keep their home winning streak intact (they were 8-0 at home last season) it looks like we should have a pretty good year. I still say that Philly is the best team in the NFC right now, but I guess only time will tell.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 20, 2004, 11:52 AM: Time as in tonight!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2004, 01:42 PM: Should be a great game tonight, and like Scott mentioned...a great battle this early in the year. I tend to favor the Vikings (hoping they win, I mean), but it will be tough...Philly at home. Hopefully we'll have a shootout between Culpepper-Moss and McNabb-Owens. Something entertaining anyways.

Pats continue to win, although it wasn't exactly a picture perfect game yesterday. They should do well this year though. Chiefs go to 0-2, and apparently the defense isn't quite fixed yet. I couldn't really bring myself to tune in for the ESPN game last night (Dolphins - Bengals), although it did sound like it ended up being an exciting one. As far as the teams I follow, it was 1 for 2. Denver lost a stinker (7-6) to Jacksonville, but Detroit went to 2-0. They aren't exactly Super Bowl contenders, but it would be nice to see them back in the playoffs. Speaking of Lions...I miss watching Barry Sanders :). Even though his streak was broken yesterday, much props to Jerry Rice. That was one heck of a run.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 20, 2004, 02:22 PM: Man, Testaverde throws another 300+ game but throws 3 INTs to 1 TD. If Garcia doesn't suck, the Browns come back and win that game. Julius Jones is out with a broken shoulder.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 21, 2004, 12:20 AM: Damn Vikes...way too many Turnovers and they went to **** everytime they got in the Red Zone. D looked OK, not the greatest but OK. I think Homefield is going to be huge come January and tonights game did not help matters :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on September 21, 2004, 12:45 AM: Quote from: jokabofe on September 20, 2004, 11:48 AM
I still say that Philly is the best team in the NFC right now, but I guess only time will tell.

Quote from: OCB on September 20, 2004, 11:52 AM
Time as in tonight!

So does that mean Philly is the best team in the NFC now? :P
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 21, 2004, 07:47 AM: I'd say so...

Philly
Seattle
Minnesota
???Cluster **** of a bunch of teams
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 22, 2004, 02:08 AM: I had the Eagles 28 Vikings 17 and I missed each final by a point a piece! DAMN!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on September 26, 2004, 12:09 PM: Get ye back up there. Who's my next victim :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Famine on September 26, 2004, 07:58 PM: :)

Big Blue!

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2004, 08:14 PM: Shaun Alexander back in the hizzouse! Sorry Dustrho, maybe you should rename your team the "Dustrho self-Destruction" for the week?

:D
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: dustrho on September 26, 2004, 08:26 PM: Quote from: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2004, 08:14 PM
Shaun Alexander back in the hizzouse! Sorry Dustrho, maybe you should rename your team the "Dustrho self-Destruction" for the week?

If it makes you feel better... sure.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 26, 2004, 09:09 PM: Quote from: dustrho on September 26, 2004, 08:26 PM
Quote from: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2004, 08:14 PM
Shaun Alexander back in the hizzouse! Sorry Dustrho, maybe you should rename your team the "Dustrho self-Destruction" for the week?

If it makes you feel better... sure.
Plus the Bears lost! Although the margain should have been a lot larger with all of the injuries the Bears have (although the Vikes have almost as many of O...Kleinsasser, Bennett, Birk and Rosenthal)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on September 26, 2004, 09:30 PM: I'm very sad that Bennett is injured. Really, I am :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 09:05 AM: That Colts-Pack game was also a great game to watch, this is what I thought the Vikes-Eagles game was going to be on MNF but alas it was not. Vikes have a TON of injuries right now, good thing the Bye is coming and maybe they can get some guys back healthy in Week 5
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 27, 2004, 10:27 AM: I totally agree. I thought Manning might challenge the TD/game record yesterday. I don't remember a game where I saw 8 TD passes.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 10:33 AM: I wonder if Darren Sharper was still daring the Colts to Pass against them yesterday?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 02:37 PM: Just heard Grossman is done for the year...so are the Bears
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on September 27, 2004, 02:39 PM: I had the pleasure of going to the Vikings game yesterday (always nice to see them win).

The game should have been a much bigger blowout and I was a little disappointed that the Vikings D even let Chicago back in that game >:( At least the D stopped the bears when they needed to...

Too bad about Grossman. Wait! He's my 4th string QB! What will I do now if Rattay, Bledsoe and Vick go down?!? :P

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 02:43 PM: I was thinking about the fact the game should not have been as close as it was today and then I thought about how the Vikes were without ProBowlers in Birk, Kleinsasser and Bennett and without Starters in Rosenthal, Claiborne and Henderson and we're lucky they didn't lose. Sure the BEars were beat up but so were the Purple...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on September 27, 2004, 02:53 PM: Hopefully Birk and Benett will be back after the Bye, but it looks like Jimmy K will be gone the rest of the year leaving just that rookie TE...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on September 27, 2004, 03:24 PM: Quote from: Nataku on September 27, 2004, 02:39 PM

Too bad about Grossman. Wait! He's my 4th string QB! What will I do now if Rattay, Bledsoe and Vick go down?!? :P

Jeff

Don't get too cocky, I might have lost two of my ~~three~~ five quarterbacks this week.

Vikes are off this week? Back to the bench with you Onterrio.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 03:55 PM: Onterrio will be on the bench for a while
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on September 27, 2004, 04:22 PM: Quote from: OCB on September 27, 2004, 03:55 PM
Onterrio will be on the bench for a while

Is he suspended now??? Four weeks?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 04:27 PM: He should be suspended next week, they still haven't scheduled his hearing, either way Bennett will be back in Week 5
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: chuckles on September 27, 2004, 05:01 PM: Well, looks like Gannon did hurt himself pretty bad. Broken vertebre. Out 6 weeks.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: JediMAC on September 27, 2004, 05:14 PM: Great. Guess that ends that quarterback controversy... :-\ Kerry Collins filled in pretty well for Gannon yesterday, fortunately, but I'm not such a huge fan/believer of his, so hopefully he'll prove me wrong over the next couple months (and probably rest of the season).

At least they kicked Tampa's ass pretty good yesterday though, so that was encouraging. Nice to see Timmy Brown coming back home to catch his 100th career touchdown. That was great to see! Little sad that Gruden got bitchslapped by his former guys though. Still love that coach!

Rams... Well, they sucked. Punked in OT by the lowly Saints? Argh!! >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2004, 05:20 PM: Can someone tell me how Mike Martz is still coaching in this league?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on September 27, 2004, 08:01 PM: Quote from: chuckles on September 27, 2004, 05:01 PM
Well, looks like Gannon did hurt himself pretty bad. Broken vertebre. Out 6 weeks.

:'(

So much for having a nifty back up for my back up. Hopefully McNair comes back in better shape. Wouldn't be surprised to see him miss at least a week though. He had his bell rung pretty good. :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: chuckles on September 27, 2004, 08:36 PM: Just when I thought I finally escaped a weekend without an injured player, seems my TE (the only one on my roster) got hurt this past weekend and is questionable for next week's game. I had to make a move, picking up a TE I've never even heard of. ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on September 27, 2004, 09:15 PM: Quote from: JediMAC on September 27, 2004, 05:14 PM
Rams... Well, they sucked. Punked in OT by the lowly Saints? Argh!! >:(

Just wait till 10/10 ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on September 28, 2004, 09:22 PM: I picked the Saints to get the wild card in their division. The Rams are done.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: CorranHorn on September 29, 2004, 01:30 AM: Well the Bears season is officially over. Though not expected to go far (I had hoped for an 8-8 record), QB Rex Grossman was diagnosed with a torn ACL today and is going to miss the rest of the season. The Bears signed Chad Hutchinson as a backup to new starting QB Jonathan Quinn. But with all the injuries on D and now this, the season is doomed. Well at least I won't have to agonize about picking their opponents to win in my football pool any more. Now if I could only have a good week in the damn pool, I'd be happy.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: JediMAC on September 30, 2004, 06:45 PM: This (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/09/30/bc.fbn.nflplayerkilled.ap/index.html) is some seriously messed up ****...

36 year old ex-Steeler offensive lineman, Justin Strzelczyk, who played for Pittsburgh throughout the 90's, leads police in a 40 minute high speed pursuit in NY, and dies in a fiery head on collision with a tanker truck.

Damn. :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 3, 2004, 10:07 PM: Anyone else hear that huge sucking sound to my East? Lots of long faces in the Green Bay and Chicago areas ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 7, 2004, 12:49 AM: Today on Dallas sports radio, there was talk of Ricky Williams coming to the Cowboys. The lunchtime guy spent about an hour on it and took calls on it.

Now, I think it's a load of BS, but when I look at the Dallas running game, I must admit, even though the guy's a flake, part of me hopes it happens.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2004, 07:45 AM: I'm almost positive I heard he can't play this year for any team let alone the Dolphins
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 7, 2004, 02:28 PM: Well, the Dolphins would have to be compensated, AND Williams would have to sit out 4 games for being a stoner...like I said, I'm pretty sure it's BS.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2004, 02:32 PM: I think a 4 game suspension is for 2nd Offenses...I think he had 3 or 4 so I believe the suspension would have been longer
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on October 7, 2004, 02:44 PM: Quote from: OCB on October 7, 2004, 07:45 AM
I'm almost positive I heard he can't play this year for any team let alone the Dolphins

I believe you are right Scott...

They were talking on the radio and according to NFL by-laws, Bongy Williams would have only missed 4 games as a suspension, BUT because he filed retirement papers to try to avoid the suspension, he would now have to serve a 1-year suspension:

Quote
Under league rules, a player in the NFL's drug program faces suspension if he returns in the calendar year after he announces his retirement. If he returns after a year, he faces a lesser suspension.

Williams wants NFL to clarify his eligibility (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1895704)

So, if Ricky comes back before the 1-yr anniversay of his retirement, he faces a larger suspension (likely 1 year). If he comes back after 1 year has passed from his retirement date, he would STILL have to serve the 4 game suspension for drug abuse that started the whole thing.

Either way, he most likely won't be back in the NFL officially until 2005.

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on October 8, 2004, 04:04 PM: Has anyone seen this one yet?

http://www.buccaneers.com/index.html

Head on over to the Buc's website and watch the intro...

:)

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 9, 2004, 12:36 PM: Quote from: OCB on October 3, 2004, 10:07 PM
Anyone else hear that huge sucking sound to my East?

Yeah, it's your 0-4 football record and blown season in fantasy baseball.

Go Yanks!!

:-X
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on October 10, 2004, 12:56 AM: Quote from: Nataku on October 8, 2004, 04:04 PM
Has anyone seen this one yet?

http://www.buccaneers.com/index.html

Head on over to the Buc's website and watch the intro...

:)

Jeff

Pretty cool, thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Nicklab on October 10, 2004, 01:00 AM: That was just awesome!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: DSJ™ on October 10, 2004, 02:14 AM: Quote from: Nataku on October 8, 2004, 04:04 PM
Has anyone seen this one yet?

http://www.buccaneers.com/index.html

Head on over to the Buc's website and watch the intro...

:)

Jeff

Neat! 8)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Famine on October 10, 2004, 10:37 PM: Anyone see how my GIANTS whooped those Plowboys into submission? ;D ;D ;D

It's a good year to be a fan of the BIG BLUE! :D

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: JediMAC on October 11, 2004, 12:32 AM: I sure hope Dave caught that absolutely sick comeback and win by my Rams over his choking Seahawks this afternoon! 8) Down 17 with just over 5 minutes to go in the game, and we came all the way back to force OT, and then polished 'em off when we got there. Looks like there's life left in the Rams offense still!

Unfortunately, the Silver and Black got waxed by the Colts though. Not looking so good anymore with Kerry Collins at the helm. Deep trouble for them. Season's slipping away... :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 11, 2004, 11:00 PM: That had to be the worst reffing I have ever seen in a half of football tonight, all of those calls went for the Packers too ::) At least they are getting waxed (again) at home (again) 8)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Famine on October 12, 2004, 11:07 AM: Hmm, I'd sure love to see the GIANTS play at the Superbowl! Especialy after a ****** pre-season.

I'd dye my chicken wings blue for that event.

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Brian on October 12, 2004, 02:17 PM: Was just reading through the "NFL Power Rankings" over at ESPN, and they had a blurb with the Vikings that Daunte Culpepper is currently on pace for 5,364 yards, 52 Touchdown Passes, and 4 Interceptions. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on October 12, 2004, 02:24 PM: Quote from: mosnab on October 12, 2004, 02:17 PM
Was just reading through the "NFL Power Rankings" over at ESPN, and they had a blurb with the Vikings that Daunte Culpepper is currently on pace for 5,364 yards, 52 Touchdown Passes, and 4 Interceptions. Unbelievable.

And 32 fumbles :P
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 18, 2004, 09:29 AM: Man the Vikes pasted the Saints last night. Culpepper has been nuclear all year and last night was an almost identical game to the one he had last week against the Texans. They put up 600 yards of offense and scored 38 points and looked unstoppable

Moss pulled a hammy though...didn't matter in the end as Culpepper found Robinson and Burleson the rest of the game and their running game was amazing as well. Plus they get Michael Bennett back next week, should be fun for the rest of the year

One downer, their damn defense is pathetic...again. I was hopeful at the beginning of the year with the new coordinator and new talent things would be different. Injuries at linebacker have not helped but they can't stop anyone and that for sure means no Super Bowl chance...Playoffs...yeah, no chance though for the whole thing. That's what makes the Eagles scary, great offense and defense
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Brian on October 18, 2004, 09:45 AM: Yeah, I got a chance to watch the Vikes a bit last night too...and boy, if they had a little better defense, they'd be downright scary. That said, Culpepper is unbelievable. He has always been good, and shown the talent, but so far this year he has been just about perfect. He is having a fantastic season, and I was really impressed with what I saw of him last night. He can throw that long ball almost effortlessly it seems. Helps having Randy Moss, but still, he has some nice throws. Heck of a QB.

I'm happy to see the Broncos doing pretty well so far, always been a fan. I wasn't sure what to expect this year. Equally happy with the success of Reuben Droughns, hopefully it continues. From what I have heard, he is a very nice, genuine person, and I always like to hear of professional athletes with that attitude, and to see them succeed.

Patriots train keeps on chugging. Should be a nice matchup next week of 5-0 teams with New England vs. the Jets. They just find a way to win. Should be an interesting year in the NFL, lots of strong teams out there so far.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: JediMAC on October 22, 2004, 03:31 AM: Hey Dave -
Now that you've finally rejoined the land of the living, I'd appreciate it if you updated that WRONG Seahawks record under your avatar there bud. In case you missed it, my Rams came back from like 17 down in the last 5 minutes of the game in Seattle two weekends ago, and then spanked you fools in OT. So stop freakin' pretending like you assclowns are still undefeated! >:(

BTW, real classy of Jerry Rice to take Steve Largent's RETIRED jersey there. That's totally weak. ::)

Have I mentioned that my Raiders suck ass?! Sheesh. They're BAD.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on October 22, 2004, 07:38 AM: Quote from: JediMAC on October 22, 2004, 03:31 AM

Have I mentioned that my Raiders suck ass?! Sheesh. They're BAD.

**** Matt, I've been telling you that for three years. I'm glad your finally able to admit it. ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 22, 2004, 11:15 AM: It's make it or break for the Packers' and Cowboys' seasons this weekend. Should be a good game. They've both been underwhelming teams this season, but this will be a good game.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Famine on October 22, 2004, 11:56 AM: So, how are the GIANTS doing? I haven't been inside the house when the news reports are on. Been in the shop with no radio.

Kevin
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 24, 2004, 11:24 PM: Giants Lost
Seahawks Lost
Rams Lost (I'd be embarrased to root for them)
Cowboys Lost
Pack Won :-[
Lions Won :-[
Vikes Crushed ;D 5-1 Baby, right now the clear #2 team in the NFC. I'll start believing when they do the same in December
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on October 25, 2004, 07:58 AM: And the Pats won 21 games in a row and are still an afterthought to the Sox, just the way Belichick likes it.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: DSJ™ on October 25, 2004, 08:51 AM: Up here for our CFL, the Edmonton Eskimos bye their way into playoffs! 40-34 win over the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, sorry Brent! :P

The Esks advanced to the post-season for the 33rd consecutive year. Thats pretty impressive. 8)

We won the Grey Cup last yr & hopefully they win it again this yr! 8)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on October 25, 2004, 09:48 AM: Well we certainly didn't deserve to make it. That they were even close is sort of sad, given the attitude and the play for the year. Much as I love to hate the Eskies, better team got it.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 25, 2004, 02:03 PM: Fork meet Cowboys. Done.(http://theforum.dallasgothic.com/html/emoticons/puke.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on October 25, 2004, 02:05 PM: Quote from: SPIDERLEGS on October 25, 2004, 02:03 PM
Fork meet Cowboys. Done.(http://theforum.dallasgothic.com/html/emoticons/puke.gif)
Their D has been horrible, I've been impressed with Vinny and the O, but to give up 41 to the Pack and to roll over to the Steelers is really, really not good
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 25, 2004, 02:08 PM: Nope. It was the most difficult game I've watched as a Cowboys fan. The Packerts scored on their first 7 possessions. The defense was unable to do ANYTHING about their attack. And Green Bay is sorry this year, too. To lose THAT BADLY to such a bad team.

The Cowboys THIS year are worse than last year. Parcells didn't even TRY and run the ball yesterday. I think he might be done, too.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2004, 07:30 PM: (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Terrible+Towel/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12a5c3rbv/*-http%3A//www.kosmo.com/blogs/TimsBlog/images/HynesWardTerribleTowel.jpg)

BWAHAHAHAHA! ;D :P :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on October 31, 2004, 07:58 PM: Now next week, do the same thing to the Eagles. That would be great. And the '72 Dolphins will be forever in their debt.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on November 1, 2004, 09:08 AM: Did I expect the Pats to win every game? Of course not. Did I expect them to at least make their first loss a game? Absolutely. They looked like ****. I can't explain it, maybe Tom got to much lovin the night before from his gorgeous girlfriend (http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2517/Events/2517/BridgetMoy_Cohen_3039089_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Moynahan,%20Bridget), who knows. But give props to the Steelers, they played like they wanted it. Me thinks these two teams are going to meet again in the playoffs. Hopefully the outcome's different.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 1, 2004, 01:22 PM: The Cowboys played a very solid game against Detroit, a team I think might make the playoffs (as a wild card) this year. We should have beaten the Steelers (though the fumble is still the fumble). We could be 5-2 instead of 3-4.

Maybe they aren't done but the problem with the Cowboys is that you can't tell which team will show up on Sunday: the one who played yesterday against the Lions? Or the one that got their arses handed to them by the Packers.

By the way, the Packers beat the Redskins yesterday, guaranteeing a win by Kerry in the election... :P
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on November 8, 2004, 07:57 AM: The Pats started another winning streak with a convincing win over Mattie's Rams and their idiot coach.

Steelers looking really good right now. They look like the real thing after consecutive thumpings of the last two undefeated teams in the league.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on November 8, 2004, 09:39 AM: I loved seeing the Rams get Beeeotched on that fake field goal, any time they get fooled on trick plays is gravy. Martz should have been fired a while ago, getting rid of Warner and thinking he's a genius is just more proof

Huge game tonight for the Vikes, a Win and they are two games up on the Pack, a loss and they are only up one going in to Lambeau and they'll have pissed away another early season. Moss is out 2-4 weeks so I can see the urine trickling down the leg already.

Should be a great game with two defenses that can't stop ****, I expect the Colts to roll the Vikings but we'll see. The Colts have been my AFC team for a while now so while I want them to lose, I love watching them play
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Rob on November 8, 2004, 10:23 AM: Yay! Something to be excited about when it comes to the Bucs. An easy schedule from here on out (Games against Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, Arizona, San Fransisco and one more I forget who...) a new QB who's 3-1 as the team's starter and a bunch of receivers coming back from injury.

Playoffs aren't out of the question just yet...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on November 10, 2004, 01:18 PM: Well, I've decided that the NFC East bringing back the "throwback" coaches is a failed bit. Tuna took Dave Campo's team to 10-6, then brings in "his" guys, and we're 3-5 with 3 blowout losses. The Redskins with Joe Gibbs suck, too.

Time to toss back the Tuna. He just looks befuddled on the sideline.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on November 14, 2004, 04:06 PM: Hah, another Steelers win... :D

Whoooo!

Saw a picture online once... Said the only sign of intelligent life in Cleveland was a roadsign saying how far it was to Pittsburgh on the Turnpike. How true. :P ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on November 23, 2004, 01:49 PM: Some thoughts after week 11:

There is a serious drop off after the top three teams in the league (Pitt, NE and Philly). Indy is probably next, but I can't include them with the elite because of their sucky ass D.

An 8-8 team could possibly make the playoffs in the NFC while in the AFC, 10-6 might not make it.

Seattle is not looking like the Super Bowl contender they supposedly were. Being swept by St. Louis and the most over-rated coach in the league and barely getting by Miami? I think they'll win the West, but look for an early exit in the playoffs.

The Eagles can win the East this weekend with a win over the Giants. So much for Gibbs, Parcells and Coughlin. The "young gun" in the division looks to win it solidily.

The Pats are playing D with an undrafted rookie free agent, a practice squad player named after a 70s band and a wide receiver playing CB and still are winning games. They survived the supposed offensive juggernauts (StL and KC) and now get a "break" in the next few weeks when they play Baltimore, Cincy, Cleveland and Miami. Injury issues aside, they look to be in great shape for another playoff run.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: JediMAC on November 24, 2004, 12:32 AM: Raiders got shalacked again - not surprising. And to make matters worse, the Rams officially SUCK now too. So much for this season! >:(

Guess I'll be rooting for the Pack now! Nice of the Vikes to roll over for them of late... 8)

So what'd you guys think of that whole MNF broohaha with the Nicolette Sheridan/Desperate Housewives skit with T.O. last week? I thought it was kinda funny, and think all the drama and fallout, especially Dungee's "racially insensitive" tirade, is just a bunch of B.S. What a country full of prudes we've got... ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on November 24, 2004, 12:36 AM: The thing I don't get it is this: obviously, someone - more than likely everyone - had to approve it before it aired. So now, all of a sudden, everyone is having a fit saying it was inappropriate to air. WTF? Why approve it in the first place if you didn't think it was appropriate??
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on November 24, 2004, 12:41 AM: I'm a little more hopeful this week than I was last week for the Vikes, they will make the playoffs because the NFC is horrible. They won't go anywhere though because their Defense is horrible

I don't think anyone can hold a candle to the Eagles in the NFC this year and the Steelers, Pats and Colts are all better than the rest of the NFC sans the Eagles. Then I'd rank the Broncos, Ravens and maybe even the Chargers ahead of Atlanta, Vikings and Packers (and Seahawks I guess), its that bad right now

One noce thing, the Vikes schedule is mild compared to a rather brutal schedule for the Pack the last 6 weeks. I think the Vikes will take them this year
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2004, 01:12 AM: My weekly steelers gloating continues but with 7 sacks we had a craptacular game with the Bengals (nicest helmets in the league guys!).

I'm shaken by the fact we're going against the #2 D upcoming, especially after the shenanigans of the last game. A win is a win, but that one wasn't exactl pretty for my black & gold.

Here's to a win over Washington. Difficult though, and we're going in with injured offensive weapons. ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on November 24, 2004, 01:28 AM: I must be the only Seahawks fan that knew all the pre-season hype was just that - hype. 2 losses to the Rams? A loss to the Cards? Barely squeaking past the 1-8 'Fins? And this is the team that everyone was pumping for the Super Bowl??? Our remaining schedule looks easy on paper, but you never know. Buffalo, Dallas, Minnesota, New York Jets, Arizona, and Atlanta - I'll be happy at this point to finish the season 10 - 6, even though our record should have/could have been closer to 13 - 3.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on November 24, 2004, 09:12 AM: Looks like ~~Bob Marley~~ Ricky Williams is close to reinstatement (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1930434). He still needs to approve the deal though. What happens, he plays again or does he continue ripping bong hits. And if he does play again, where? Certainly not Miami, I don't think those players want anything to do with him.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on November 24, 2004, 09:58 AM: I would think part of the agreement is that Miami gets to restructure his contract so he can be cut at the end of the year or trade him without the salary cap hit.

I've heard some Miami guys say they would welcome him back and others say no way. Even if he was there it would have mattered little, their QB's are beyond pathetic
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on November 29, 2004, 02:26 PM: Congrats to the Eagles, who destroyed the Giants this last weekend (and helped me win in Fantasy Football :)).

Clinching your NFC East Division in Week 12 of 17 is a GREAT accomplishment.

Week-after-week they just crush people. If this isn't their year to get to the Super Bowl, they'll never get there... :-\

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on November 29, 2004, 03:15 PM: Quote from: jokabofe on November 24, 2004, 01:28 AM
I must be the only Seahawks fan that knew all the pre-season hype was just that - hype. (snip)

Looks that way after getting manhandled by the Bills yesterday. Possible coaching change coming?

Speaking of coaching changes, how many openings do you think could be up for grabs at the end of the season (or before, in some cases)? I think it could be as many as 12:

Definites:
New Orleans Saints
Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns

Somewhat Likely:
San Fran 49ers
Seattle Seahawks

Maybes:
Minnesota Vikings
Dallas Cowboys
Washington Redskins
Denver Broncos
Oakland Raiders
St. Louis Rams
KC Chiefs

Obviously, I don't think that many changes are coming, but it is a possibility. Some of those maybes (Rams, Cowboys, Vikes) are long shots, but it could happen.

Pats won for the 25th time in 26 games yesterday. Pretty impressive. They have now scored first in a record 16 straight games. Snow, rain, domes, shoot outs, pound the ball, it doesn't matter, they just keep winning ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2004, 08:59 PM: Steelers with a hard-fought victory. I'm smelling good things in the playoffs for us, but I'm hesitant to get too zealous on it. :)

I'm just enjoying watching Rothlesberger play, and watching The Bus roll over opposing defenses. It's amazing how people took dumps on him saying he should retire then watching him tie personal records for 100 yard games, etc... I think had our offense been 100% Sunday that we would've had a better game with Washington, but a win is a win so I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on November 30, 2004, 09:59 AM: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1934933

Butch Davis go bye bye, not that anyone didn't see it coming.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Paul on December 2, 2004, 01:18 PM: http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3211914

Ok I think Ricky Williams 15 minutes is up.....my only question is which personality made the decision and which will regret it tomorrow....

Now if somebody could plant some of Quincy Carter's weed on Vinnie Testeverde, then Dallas could start practicing for 2005......

I am sad that we only have 5 more weeks of regular season Football...where did the time go?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2004, 12:38 AM: I'd say tonight was Pittsburgh's sloppiest performance, aside from Ben's drive at the end to set up the field goal. By the way, everyone on that team owes Reed a drink for putting it on target.

Anyway, they're not healthy, but nonetheless the offensive and defensive lines both played like shazbot, and the running game was stifled... I hated the commentary, and I felt the cameramen did a piss poor job tonight, but I'll agree with the commentators that Bettis should've been doing MOST of the running with Staley regaining his legs in a supporting role... Not the other way around.

An ugly game, even if a win, and generally poorly played. I think if this is the effort put forth on the remainder of the schedule, the Steelers won't look too hot going into the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Paul on December 6, 2004, 08:10 AM: The chemistry of Total Lack thereof in the ESPN booth is what makes any Sunday Night Game VERY HARD to sit through.

I'd almost rather watch the Fox 4th string call a game or maybe next week I'll hit the SAP button, I don't know a lick of Spanish but it has to be better those 3.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on December 7, 2004, 05:09 PM: Last night's game was something. It reminded me of the old AFC shootouts. WTF happened to the #1 defense in the NFL from 2003? It gave up 511 yds to the Seabags last night!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Paul on December 8, 2004, 08:36 AM: And now Coach Bill will think Dallas is a playoff hopefull for ANOTHER Week...maybe we'll find out about Henson in the off season....

I am thrilled about Julius Jones though. He is not the Best in the League right now (I freely admit that), but after what I've suffered through with Emmitt's last years and then Troy Hambrick, I'm just glad Dallas has a rusher in positive yards.

Eddie George looked like somebody ran over his dog the whole game.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on December 12, 2004, 04:36 PM: That's it. I'm done caring about the NFL for the year.

I may watch the Vikes/GB game on Christmas Eve if I have a chance, but no more...

Stupid Vikings. >:(

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 12, 2004, 05:47 PM: What a disappointment the Vikings have been. I truly thought their D was going to really be a strength this season.

Colts win again baby!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on December 12, 2004, 06:09 PM: Quote from: Nataku on December 12, 2004, 04:36 PM
Stupid Vikings. >:(

:D
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2004, 03:31 AM: YAY!

ANother Steelers win. Clinched the AFC North, and while a spotty game I think the overall performance was better than last week. Nice seeing Bettis running more while Deuce preps... I'd like to see them staggered back & forth then since they're a running powerhouse.

And Roethlisberger's playing wasn't bad... Wasn't great, but wasn't bad.

I'm one happy Steelers fan right now. :)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on December 13, 2004, 09:17 AM: How bad is the NFC right now ::) Seriously? I've about had it with the Vikings. I might just switch to being a Patriots fan or something. They've been decimated by injuries and its sucked but they have lost some bad, bad games this year. I wouldn't mind seeing Tice out of here and a totally fresh start. Get rid of the whole Green leftovers and lets get down to what wins. Defense!

I love Culpepper and I love Moss but the Vikes need only look at Philly and see you can dominate with a defense with a pulse. Their secondary and linebackers are atrocious. And so are their Special Teams. How many teams in the league have a kicker that won't try one over 45 yards? Its insane! The sad thing is, is that they still have a chance at the "PLAYOFF!?!?!?" With 2 wins they are in, but I don't think anyone really even cares around here because they aren't Super Bowl contenders and after being dick teased for the last 2 years by fast starts, its enough to make people be apethetic.

Vikings = NFL Version of the Red Sox :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on December 20, 2004, 10:40 AM: I hereby declare that the Vikings were the luckiest team ever on Sunday.

The Viking defense whiffs big-time on a last-minute drive by the Lions and gives up a fat touchdown thanks to a bone-headed pass interference call, only to have Detroit WHIFF the extra point and give the Vikes the game? :o

How the hell do they get that lucky? :-\

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on December 20, 2004, 10:53 AM: Yeah that was one of those plays that usually happens TO the Vikes. I swear, I really do swear, this defense makes every quarterback they face look like Joe Montana in his prime
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on December 20, 2004, 05:37 PM: The rest of the NFC playoff teams should thank Dallas for knocking T.O. out for a month. Our defense played its best 3 quarters in about a year yesterday. Too little too late, but hey...we removed T.O. for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Paul on December 20, 2004, 05:38 PM: Quote from: Scott on December 20, 2004, 10:53 AM
Yeah that was one of those plays that usually happens TO the Vikes. I swear, I really do swear, this defense makes every quarterback they face look like Joe Montana in his prime

Except Vinnie Incepteverde.....Top 5 pick for the Cowboys at the Draft!!! Stupid Buffalo...Dallas could have had 2 top 10 picks...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on December 20, 2004, 05:39 PM: Sounds like TO is out for what could be the year. ESPN has a story that he might not be back for the Super Bowl if they make it.

WHich means to me...The Eagles are still the favorites due to their Defense but they aren't far and away the favorites. In fact all 6 NFC teams could go all the way

It won't matter, the AFC representative will crush :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on December 20, 2004, 05:44 PM: Well since the Eagles have already wrapped up home field, they don't play a meaningful game for four weeks. I say rest him until then and then see how it is before the first playoff game.

Pats have to win tonight to keep pace with the Steelers. I felt dirty rooting for the Giants on Saturday, but sometimes you take the lesser of two evils. Alas, it was all in vain, though :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2004, 08:40 PM: I'm still rollin' with my Steelers on this one... There's concerns over a completely healthy team, mostly offense, but I think they're playing solid even on their off-days like the last couple weeks have been.

They're riding a high... As with all things in life I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop though. :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on December 21, 2004, 07:56 AM: Well that sucked the big one. I went to sleep with the Pats leading, knowing they never blow a lead in the second half. Wake up around 2am to take a piss, turn on SC and see they lost by one ******* point. There goes home field advantage. Oh well, you can't win them all and the Fins always play the Pats tough and I really think they're better than their record shows.

One thing's for sure, this loss is going to light a fire under their ass, which is a good thing heading into the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on December 21, 2004, 03:46 PM: T.O. is out for the year. He broke a bone in his ankle. They'll try and bring him back for the Super Bowl...IF they make it. Looks like a 4th straight year of Philly ALMOST going to the promised land...heh heh.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on December 21, 2004, 03:57 PM: But like I said yesterday...who in the NFC is going to get them?

Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Seattle/Saint Louis/Carolina/New Orleans

GB, Seattle and Minnesota all have the offense but even without TO all three Defenses have no chance

I like Atlanta I guess but Vick would drive me nuts if I were a Falcons Fan. Their D is decent though which is why they are the #2 team

Carolina is a team on the rise as well, I love their D and they have really turned it around. I would not be surprised to see them playing in the NFC Championship again

The thing with Philly is their D is still awesome, it can still shut down GB, MN, Seattle or Saint Louis...Atlanta having to travel to Philly would be an underdog. I still think Philly are the favorites but its a lot tighter today than it was on Saturday
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on December 21, 2004, 05:34 PM: Actually, yeah. Any one of those teams can take them now. All they have to do is stack the line of scrimmage to stop the Westbrook. They have no other good receivers, even their 3rd receiver is playing on a bum knee. Philly is a one dimensional offense now. McNabb to Westbrook. It will be easy to gameplan against that offense in the playoffs. They are a carbon copy of the team that lost the NFC Championship the last 3 seasons. They may make there again, but not to the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 21, 2004, 05:36 PM: Falcons are going to the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Paul on December 21, 2004, 08:12 PM: I think somehow T.O. helped get the Choke out of Philly and if he is done for the playoffs, they might get caught.

I do think it is funny that every report I've read online about his injury says he won't be back until the Super Bowl (as if it was pre-determined they were getting thier chance to go this year)...if the players start believing that then they are gonna get surprised.
Title: Re: NFL Preseason '04
Post by: Scott on December 23, 2004, 01:19 PM: Quote from: Scott on September 3, 2004, 10:13 AM
Quote from: jokabofe on August 17, 2004, 06:39 PM
so, how about some predictions for the coming year?

Alrighty then, barring any major injuries tonight, here goes

AFC East: New England Patriots
AFC North: Baltimore Ravens
AFC South: Indianapolis Colts
AFC West: Kansas City Chiefs
AFC Wild Card #1: New York Jets
AFC Wild Card #2: Cincinnati Bengals
AFC Championship: Indianapolis beats New England

Now, Tennessee and Denver I think also have legitimate shots at both the Wild Card and their Division Titles, its just the Jets and Bengals play in an easier division, plus the Jets get to play SF and ARI. New England and the Colts should be the two best teams, and I think the Colts are going to find a way to get homefield. Should be a great year in the much more competitive AFC

NFC East: Philadelphia Eagles
NFC North: Minnesota Vikings
NFC South: Atlanta Falcons
NFC West: Seattle Seahawks
NFC Wild Card #1: Washington Redskins
NFC Wild Card #2: Green Bay Packers
NFC Championship: Philly over Minnesota

Two most overrated teams in football are the Saint Louis Rams and the Green Bay Packers this year. I've seen them both ranked in the top 10 in a lot of preseason rankings and I think that is total B.S. They have both gotten worse over last year and Mike Martz is still the head coach of the Rams. The NFC South is definitely the most competitive division in Football and could easily see both Wild Cards or all 4 teams challenge for the Division spot in the playoffs. Its possible Dallas and Detroit are contending for that last Playoff spot but I don't think its gonna happen

Super Bowl: Indianapolis over Philadelphia

You heard it here first :-*

As far as my team, the Purple and Gold, The Vikings are on the right track but they have a lot of young talent that needs one more year to come together on D. This is Philly's year finally, they signed the big free agents and they are poised to go deep. Home field will be huge as always and so are injuries, everything could change in the breaking of Peyton Manning's leg in Week 1

I'm looking pretty good right now with my picks. A little off in the AFC. I don't think anyone picked SD though and Pittsburgh is a bit of a Surprise. NFC is close, Washington got no Offense and I think the Vikes will win tomorrow sewing that one up too. Leaving just one wrong there
Title: The Dallas Cowboys Can Burn In Hell!
Post by: CorranHorn on January 2, 2005, 11:41 PM: those ****** damn cowboys!!!! they just cost me $200 in my football pool, i would have won this week outright and ranked 7th overall for the season. greedy ass fat bastard who got the penalty on the giants winning drive, stupid dumb defensive line which cant hold ****. may dallas and those cowboys burn in hell! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on January 3, 2005, 01:37 AM: Hey Colman, I'm gonna order one of these - you want me to get an extra for you??

(http://img124.exs.cx/img124/7628/hawks1.jpg)

Yeah, I know - "Bite me, Jersey"

:-*
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on January 3, 2005, 01:39 AM: Pitt with another close one... Meant nothing but it's always fun to get the W.

And Plaxico Burress' house was broke into while he was at the game, and one of the suspects was armed I guess... I guess they were caught as well, but took $65k worth of jewelery alone, among many other things.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: JediMAC on January 4, 2005, 01:13 AM: Quote from: jokabofe on January 3, 2005, 01:37 AM
Hey Colman, I'm gonna order one of these - you want me to get an extra for you??

(stupid ass shirt removed)

Yeah, I know - "Bite me, Jersey"

:-*

Actually, it's "Eat me, Jersey Boy."

Just glad to see my Rams somehow squeeked in there! The Pack's looking pretty good too, so hopefully one of those two will make me happy (and somewhat surprised) and come out of the NFC.

VikeQueens definitely steamrolled into the playoffs too. Nice work there, Minnesota. ::)

But damn, if some of those AFC teams haven't been playing outta their skulls all year! 15-1 for the Steelers?! They're gonna be tough, but the Pats still have to be considered the favorites out there. Colts will make some noise, and I'd love to see Peyton get the playoff monkey off his back. Chargers overachieved all year, so I'd be really surprised to see them continue on with that very far in the playoffs.

Can't seem to find my Raiders in the mix anywhere though. Anyone know where they disappeared too? ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on January 4, 2005, 08:43 AM: You'd be dead before stepping into the terminal if you came to this city right now Matt. :)

If you're gonna visit, now you have to notify me so I can get you escorted in safely.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2005, 09:49 AM: Here's my picks:

NFC

Green Bay over Minnesota
Saint Louis over Seattle

Round 2
Green Bay over Atlanta
Philly over Saint Louis

Green Bay over Philly

AFC

Indy over Denver
San Diego over NY

Round 2

NE over Indy
Pitt over SD

NE over Pitt

Super Bowl

NE over GB in a blow out

I know that Pitt beat NE earlier this year but they didn't have Dillon...barring injuries I can't see how New England is not the favorite to win it all (Again)

As for my squad...I better not say anything
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on January 4, 2005, 09:58 AM: Quote from: Scott on January 4, 2005, 09:49 AM

As for my squad...I better not say anything

You mean like that they're an underachieving bunch of **** bags that in spite of their talent, really don't deserve to be in the playoffs given the bull**** effort they mailed in as a team this year?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2005, 10:00 AM: Quote from: Morgbug on January 4, 2005, 09:58 AM
Quote from: Scott on January 4, 2005, 09:49 AM

As for my squad...I better not say anything

You mean like that they're an underachieving bunch of **** bags that in spite of their talent, really don't deserve to be in the playoffs given the bull**** effort they mailed in as a team this year?
I would have thrown a lot more ******* and ***** in there but that is the jist of it
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Mikey D on January 4, 2005, 10:11 AM: My picks:

Round 1:
Indy over Denver
SD over NY
Green Bay over Minnesota
Seattle over St Louis

Round 2:
NE over Indy
Pitt over SD
Green Bay over Atlanta
Philly over Seattle

Championships:
NE over Pitt
Philly over Green Bay

Obviously, I'm not picking against my team in the AFC Championship. Philly, even without TO, is still the best in the NFC. Although two lackluster wins against Washington and Dallas and two losses resting their starters, who should play to avoid the rust, to end the season doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Super Bowl:
NE over Philly, but would be happy the other way (my two favorite teams)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2005, 10:16 AM: I'm a believer that Reid is an idiot for benching his starters like that. I really can't see how that helps your team at all. Especially losing and having NO momentum going in to the playoffs
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: chuckles on January 4, 2005, 10:21 AM: Yeah, it's a real shame Carolina or even the Saints didn't make it over the Vikings. Both of them are a lot more deserving, playing better ball of late and would have given some team a better challenge. Saints end with 4 straight wins, Carolina ends winning 6 of 8. The Vikes drop their last 2 and 4 of their last 5, and somehow luck their way into the playoffs due to the wonky tie break system. ::)

Anyway, here are my picks.

Indy over Denver
SD over NYJ
Packers over Vikes
StL over Sea

NE over Indy
Pitt over SD
Atl over GB
Phi over Stl

Pitt over NE - Too many weapons on offense and top rated defense in both yds and pts against.

Phi over Atl - Even without TO, Atl won't win because it's on the road where they finished 4-4 and struggled in 2 of their wins.

Pitt over Phi - Same reason for them beating NE.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on January 4, 2005, 10:51 AM: Here's my picks:

NFC

Round 1:
Minnesota over Green Bay
Seattle over Saint Louis

Round 2:
Atlanta over Seattle
Minnesota over Philly - Moss says "TO who?" to the national media.

Champisonship:
Minnesota over Atlanta - Minnesota avenges the dreadful loss in 99

AFC

Round 1:
Indy over Denver
San Diego over NY Jets

Round 2:
NE over Indy
Steelers over Chargers

Championship:
NE over Pitt

Super Bowl

So, my two Super Bowl teams are the Vikings and the Patriots. Just as soon as all the Viking fans write them off, the Vikes go on a tear and make it to the big dance. Scott, despite his better judgement and fearing the inevitable disappointment, gets back on board the Vikings bandwagon; he's caught up in Super Bowl hype.

The day of the big game rolls around only to see the Vikings CRUSHED by the New England Patriots. :(

The Vikings pourous defense catches up with them and Tom Brady looks like the second coming of Joe Montana circa 1990 as he breaks Montana's Super Bowl TD record with 6 TD passes.

New England 55, Minnesota 10

Scott is found days later wandering the streets of Minneapolis in his underpants muttering, "I just KNEW those f'ing knobblers would lose... WHY OH WHY DID I LET MYSELF BELIEVE?!?"

And somewhere the little Baby Jesus cried... :'(

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2005, 10:55 AM: Is the sky purple in Maplewood today? :P
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jeff on January 4, 2005, 11:00 AM: I figure, if you're gonna make predictions, you might as well make them entertaining...

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2005, 11:25 AM: I got this from my buddy (you heard it here first!)

Quote
A hunting friend of mine (whose sister is married to Bud Grant's son,
Mike), just told me that Mike Tice will be fired unless they do well in the
playoffs (playoffs) and Bud Grant is in negotiations with Red for a 2
million a year contract to become the new coach...Believe it or not?
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 4, 2005, 11:44 AM: Quote from: Scott on January 4, 2005, 10:16 AM
I'm a believer that Reid is an idiot for benching his starters like that. I really can't see how that helps your team at all. Especially losing and having NO momentum going in to the playoffs

The Eagles will once again come up short in their bid to earn a berth in the Super Bowl. And being a fan of another NFC East team, I am tickled with glee at the prospect of another "Close, but..." season for the Eagles. ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: bobafett14 on January 4, 2005, 09:12 PM: Steelers/Eagles. (If the Steelers get by Indy-last ime we went ot the super bowl, Indy had one last throw to the end-zone which spliiped through the fingers of their reciever, I can see a "destiny pass" again, but this time it's caught-makes for good press. I can see it now)

Steelers baby! Jusat remember, the last team to beat Rothelisberger was.....................IOWA! ;^)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Jesse James on January 4, 2005, 09:28 PM: hehe :)

Steelers all the way... The most solid team in the NFL IMO, even if our QB's a youngin'. Not even saying that as a general Steeler's fan either. I truly believe this is the best team since the glory days, and with tons of depth...
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2005, 10:25 PM: I'll admit to only see 2 Steeler games this year but I think the main thing that separates the Pats and Steelers is Experience. Which is why I can't pick Pitt, sorry Jess
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2005, 10:33 PM: (http://www.kfan.com/images/homesportsimages/vikings/2004/previews/playoffs_week1b.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on January 6, 2005, 11:11 PM: Read a great quote about the Vikings today, went something like this:

They have a quarterback that will do everything possible he can to help them win and a wide receiver that still hasn't decided if he'll show up, whether he plays or not.

Miss Cris Carter much? I do. :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2005, 11:21 PM: I'm actually not all that down on 84, he's hands down the most talented guy on the field. I think he's been hurt since he tore the hammy and just hasn't let anyone know the full extent

And when your teammates on Defense continually let you down, I'd be about fed up too. The leaving the game early and not trying when they are losing is a son of bitch. But it goes back to him being slightly mental too. All accounts are that he's a weird dude, I think that is an understatement. His teammates love him, I'm a little more positive that I was Monday. Should be fun...I hope its at least close

And, you all would not believe the absolutely amazing amount of trash talking we've been receiving from our rotund neighbors to the East. Its sort of never fair since we really have nothing to stand on (no Super Bowls, not Media Darlings, Nobody Sucks off our QB any chance they get) but this week has been so much worse than I ever remember. The Vikes backing in and totally choking again have not helped...God I hope they win :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2005, 11:26 PM: (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/superbowl/gb/020120favre-towel.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on January 6, 2005, 11:27 PM: Oh I'm hoping as well, but having been a long time Vikings fan (hello Fran Tarkenton) I just think it's safer to not get my hopes up. I'll be yapping big time if they win though.

I don't think GB has really that much better a shot at winning than Minnesota, though I certainly give them the edge. Their record isn't stellar and the beat the Vikes twice by having Minnesota gas it in the fourth, winning by 3 both times. If, and it's a massive if, the defensive puts in half an effort and Culpepper can get his side going, Minnesota has a decent shot. Not really trying to take anything away from GB, but they are not the Patriots.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: jokabofe on January 7, 2005, 12:00 AM: Yeah, don't feel bad, my Hawks are pretty much in the same predicament. Everyone was pumping them to be the next Super Bowl champs before they played a friggin game, and they just proved that the "experts" out there don't know a damn thing.

I remember reading before the season began that The Sporting News had picked the Super Bowl to be Denver vs. Seattle. Yeah, both teams made it to the playoffs, but if either team can make it out of round 1, I'll be shocked. On paper, the Hawks should be able to beat St. Louis, but after witnessing what I witnessed in the two meetings already this season, I'm not getting my hopes up. And Denver vs. Manning & the Colts? Not a chance.
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Scott on January 7, 2005, 12:08 AM: I keep thinking of the game 2 years ago where Atlanta came in and killed the Pack when it was like 20 below...God, I hope they win :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: chuckles on January 7, 2005, 01:16 PM: Anyone want to bid on a pair of Randy Moss used socks? ::)

A steal at this price (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50133&item=5153593902&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: JediMAC on January 8, 2005, 08:24 PM: Third time's a charm... Sorry Dave! :-*
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 8, 2005, 09:15 PM: How poetic that the game ended on a dropped pass ::)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: jokabofe on January 8, 2005, 09:35 PM: I think Seattle should put a protest in with the league for this game. The penalties called against them were atrocious. And there were numerous times where penalties should have been called against St. Louis that weren't.

I'll bet Matt Hasselback is one frustrated QB right now though. Guy played a hell of a game, and none of his receivers could hold on to the ball. How do you have a receiver sitting on your bench who is quite possibly the greatest receiver of all time (granted, that was in his younger years, but still) and holds every record for receivers - playoff and regular season - and you don't throw to him one time during the game? Not once did they throw a pass to Jerry Rice. I know he's older than the other recievers and all that, but at least he could probably have held onto the ball, at least once.

That was a game that the 'Hawks deserved to lose. They couldn't have played any worse, if you ask me. The defense is horrible. I think just about every game they played this season, with the exception of one or two, they had a lead either going into the fourth quarter or took the lead early in the fourth quarter (like they did today) and then the defense just falls apart.

I haven't even received my Playoff/Western Division champs merchandise that I ordered yet, and now I don't even want it. They suck.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Morgbug on January 9, 2005, 02:30 PM: Colts are eating the Broncos alive right now. 28-3 in the second quarter. Chargers rookie kicker ended his own career last night :-\
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 9, 2005, 04:23 PM: Colts baby!! Now it's time for revenge on the Pats!

Sad to see the Chargers fall after such an incredible comeback and fitting that Seattle's season ends on a dropped pass. That team sucks and I totally see Shaun Alexander bouncing out of town.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2005, 07:47 PM: (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/superbowl/gb/020120favre-towel.jpg)

Stick it right up your cocky ass Farve
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 9, 2005, 07:53 PM: Quote from: Scott on January 9, 2005, 07:47 PM
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/superbowl/gb/020120favre-towel.jpg)

Stick it right up your cocky ass Farve

You're kidding right? Favre is one of the classiest athletes in the world.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Jeff on January 9, 2005, 08:54 PM: (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/superbowl/gb/020120favre-towel.jpg)

They were:

On the road... :o

Outside a dome... :o

In the cold... :o

In the playoffs... :o

And still pulled off a huge upset? What a game! ;D

Where was that Defense all year?!? Three picks were BIG, as was the Offense. Better luck next year, Pack!

Jeff

ps.
The mock "mooning" by Moss after the TD will keep the local sports radio busy ALL week long. Tasteless or funny? Depends on if you were wearing Green-n-Gold or Purple I guess...
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2005, 09:08 PM: Quote from: Holographic Elvis on January 9, 2005, 07:53 PM
Quote from: Scott on January 9, 2005, 07:47 PM
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/superbowl/gb/020120favre-towel.jpg)

Stick it right up your cocky ass Farve

You're kidding right? Favre is one of the classiest athletes in the world.
No I am not kidding, the dude runs up and sticks his mug in Defenders faces more than any QB in Football. Since the Defense won them a Super Bowl and then they got their asses kicked the next year he has been average at best. Still the media and casual NFL fan thinks he's the greatest QB in the league right now...there's about 12 I'd rather have than good old Interception Beth
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: jokabofe on January 9, 2005, 09:21 PM: Quote from: Holographic Elvis on January 9, 2005, 04:23 PM
fitting that Seattle's season ends on a dropped pass. That team sucks and I totally see Shaun Alexander bouncing out of town.

God, I hope not. I would love to see the Hawks just dump their entire receiving core and start from scratch. I think Hasselbeck has the goods to take a team to the big game, as long as he's got some guys that can hang onto the ball. Look at his stats for this year:

279/474 for 3382 yards. That's a 58.9% completion percentage. Taking into account that the receivers dropped at least 35% of the passes thrown to them this year (and that's a conservative estimate, IMO) you would have to think that he could have easily had a completion percentage closer to 75 - 80% and closer to 4000 yards. Keeping Alexander in Seattle is going to have to be a main priority for them this off season, and finding some new receivers has to be a close second.

Of course, beefing up the D is going to be another huge priority. The defense just completely sucks ass.

With a beefed up D, keeping Alexander and a few receivers who can actually catch, I could see them going places next year.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 9, 2005, 10:18 PM: Quote from: Scott on January 9, 2005, 09:08 PM
Quote from: Holographic Elvis on January 9, 2005, 07:53 PM
Quote from: Scott on January 9, 2005, 07:47 PM
(http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/superbowl/gb/020120favre-towel.jpg)

Stick it right up your cocky ass Farve

You're kidding right? Favre is one of the classiest athletes in the world.
No I am not kidding, the dude runs up and sticks his mug in Defenders faces more than any QB in Football. Since the Defense won them a Super Bowl and then they got their asses kicked the next year he has been average at best. Still the media and casual NFL fan thinks he's the greatest QB in the league right now...there's about 12 I'd rather have than good old Interception Beth

Funny, I don't see that and I always watch Packers games. Maybe he just does it against your beloved Vikes and that makes him an even bigger enemy. The guy is one of the classiest athletes and is a for sure HOFer.

And I'll take my boy Peyton any day over Brett by the way. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2005, 10:30 PM: Maybe that's what it is, I only see him play against us and on Monday night, he's done more than his fair share of taunting

I could go on forever...I can say he's a great competitor and is tough as nails but he makes way too many mistakes especially in big games for me to ever say he's still and elite Quarterback and he hasn't been for at least 5 years now. National Media will kiss his ass every chance they get, however. Such as...NFL Channel was showing the Press Conferences after the game, they actually cut away from Daunte and went to Brett's to hear about why he threw 4 picks in the game.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2005, 11:00 PM: (http://jedidefender.com/news/images/1-05/moss9ki.jpg)

Hey everyone in Lambeau Field...Kiss my Ass, I just beeotched you again!

I don't see how this is any worse than T.O.'s Star Thing in Dallas or the Joe Horn Cell Phone, Fox and ESPN are calling for his head ::)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Jeff on January 9, 2005, 11:08 PM: Quote from: Nataku on January 9, 2005, 08:54 PM
The mock "mooning" by Moss after the TD will keep the local sports radio busy ALL week long. Tasteless or funny? Depends on if you were wearing Green-n-Gold or Purple I guess...

Quote from: Scott on January 9, 2005, 11:00 PM
(http://jedidefender.com/news/images/1-05/moss9ki.jpg)

Hey everyone in Lambeau Field...Kiss my Ass, I just beeotched you again!

I actually laughed out loud when he did it, and then Joe Buck acted like it was the worst thing Randy ever did. I agree maybe it was poor sportsmanship, but it was dang funny! ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: NFL 2004
Post by: Morgbug on January 9, 2005, 11:11 PM: Quote from: Morgbug on January 6, 2005, 11:27 PM

I don't think GB has really that much better a shot at winning than Minnesota, though I certainly give them the edge. Their record isn't stellar and the beat the Vikes twice by having Minnesota gas it in the fourth, winning by 3 both times. If, and it's a massive if, the defensive puts in half an effort and Culpepper can get his side going, Minnesota has a decent shot.

Guess the sky was purple.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2005, 11:23 PM: I really have no reason to gloat at all, I didn't think they had this in them. I've watched enough of this team for the last 22 years to know that for the most part they choke. They get routed and never get the breaks.

All the chips were against them and Daunte played one of the best games of his career and Favre then had to force a lot of throws and threw picks (his total M.O.) so while I was cautiously hoping and praying for this, I, in the end find this a very great upset. Amazing...with total shades of 1987 on this as well

You probably don't remember if you aren't Vikings fans but that was the strike year and the Vikes also backed into the playoffs. The killed New Orleans in the first game at NO and then went to SF and killed the 49ers back when they had Rice and Montana, it was an unbelievable run. They then lost to Washington in a very close game and then Washington went on to kill Denver 42-10
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2005, 11:25 PM: (http://www.kfan.com/images/homesportsimages/vikings/2004/photos/week18_afro.jpg)
(http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/WIMG10601100122.jpeg)

You can almost see him saying it..."Kiss my ass"
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 10, 2005, 10:45 AM: Scott the Viking are coming to Philly next week it will be all over for them then...they are just delaying the inevitable. THey can have there moment,but now they will have to deal with a defense and offense far superior to theirs.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Morgbug on January 10, 2005, 11:19 AM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 10, 2005, 10:45 AM
Scott the Viking are coming to Philly next week it will be all over for them then...they are just delaying the inevitable. THey can have there moment,but now they will have to deal with a defense and offense far superior to theirs.

I agree about the defense, but not so sure about the offense, especially if TO is out. Potent, no doubt, but so is the Vikings offense. Defense will be the difference, IMO and in the ever skeptical (but true Viking fashion) nature, I remain unconvinced of the ability of the Vikings D. If they decide to show up again (the Moss factor???) then it could be interesting. Culpepper is an awesome QB as is McNabb. Moss, if he wants to play again next week is one of the best receivers in the league. Bennett/Smith are fine RB's so there are lots of options on the O side.

I wouldn't bet against Philly but I'll still cheer for the Vikings.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 10, 2005, 01:07 PM: Why is it everyone seems to forget that the eagles did get to the championship game 3 years in a row without T.O. Yes T.o. is important to the offense but with Chad Lewis Greg Lewis Mitchell and Pinkston your going to see an aresenal of weapons on the field . Vikings Line backers are shallow they have two awesome rookies, but they are just that a rookies.
They over commit and aren't good at adjusting. Philly will try to own them in the air 10-20 yds down the field.
Running Phillies line is going to step up and pucnh whole right up the middle to get the defense on it heels. Westbrook will take advantage.

Don't get me wrong I believe the Vikings will show up to play and I think it will be a good game but I think second half philly runs away with it.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: John C on January 10, 2005, 03:41 PM: Randy Moss is an idiot. He never will be a class act. It's just the way he was brought up. Most star athletes get the same treatment. I don't think the mooning was all that bad. The Packer fans were doing nothing but giving him Hell the whole game. I saw a few camera shots where it showed him jawing back, and it looked like he was pointing at the scoreboard as if to say "hey, look who is winning." You could read his lips and tell he used much stronger language, though. It's not like he gave them the finger. The Fox announcers and post game reporters are all hypocrites. They work for a trashy network that puts garbage on the air like "Joe Millionaire", "The Simple Life", Temptation Island" and "Who's Your Daddy?" and yet they have the stones to call Moss classless? Pot, meet kettle! They have no right to just criticize him when there are other players like Terrell Owens who act much worse.
I'm just glad to see the Vikes finally playing up to their potential. I didn't think they had it in them. They seem to play better when they feel the world is against them. I hope the networks continue to criticize Randy. It motivates him.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: JediMAC on January 10, 2005, 03:56 PM: Ugh. Pack got SPANKED, and Brett sucked much ass. Not to mention, I've got a majorly depressed wife on my hands too...

That was just ugly. Pretty shocked to see the Vikes actually not choke for once. Not shocked however to see Randy Moss pull the ol' mooneroo, and for the second week in a row become the lightning rod for controversy.

Not that I minded what he did, personally. I always get a kick out of the creativity of the touchdown celebrations, so I get a little annoyed with the NFL (and media) for trying to clamp down on them so much.

Chargers = CHOKE. Proved their season was pretty much a fluke.

Nice to see the Colts dominate though. Peyton just won his second straight MVP (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/01/10/bc.fbn.nflmvp.ap/index.html), btw. Would've been a unanimous choice, had one of the dumb**** AP morons not voted for Michael Vick... ::)

Anyway, looking forward to a Rams/Colts Superbowl now!
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 10, 2005, 04:23 PM: jedimac disillussioned as to who's going to be in the superbowl steelers and eagles. Battle of the commonwealth.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2005, 09:58 PM: West meets East, and West will cremate the opposition of course. ;D

BTW, ESPN and Fox are combined to make the worst sports-casting of all time in any sport. Fox ruined any NHL coverage it ever had, and ESPN ruins any coverage of anything it has.

I dont' know anyone in Pittsburgh who wasn't trying to coordinate their radios to their TV's on that last ESPN hosted game the Steelers had (forget who we even played... I was out X-Mas shopping I think). They're attrocious on all levels. Probably worried about FCC fines because of the "mooning".

it was an ass malfunction maybe.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 11, 2005, 01:56 PM: While I don't think the Vikes have much of a shot in beating the Eagles, I actually like their chances more than against the Packers. There's just something about resting your guys for a month before a real game that smacks of idiocy. I can see a week, give them the second half off etc but to sit them for two weeks and a bye, I think they may be rusty

Moss's ankle is also a concern to me, he says he'll play but it might not be pretty. Philly's D is as good as any of the other AFC's teams which is why they have to be the favorites. It should be a fun game and I'm more than gleeful to actually be cheering for my team on another weekend :)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 11, 2005, 02:32 PM: oh you poor soul you are in for a world of hurt on Sunday. Smack down Philly style
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 11, 2005, 04:55 PM: Um...you guys are talking about the same, lame Eagles offense that without T.O. could only hang 12 points on the worst defense the Cowboys ever fielded. 12 points. The Vikings defense is a little better than the Cowboys, and their offense is ALOT better than the Eagles minus T.O.

Look for the Vikings to handle that Eagles offense fairly easily.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 11, 2005, 09:06 PM: I'm truly amazed at how much press on talk on ESPN Radio the Randy Moss thing got. ESPN didn't help matters by deciding not to show it on SportsCenter and Joe Buck completely over-reacted. A lot of people were under the impression that Moss actually dropped his pants and bare assed the crowd! Ridiculous. Tony Dungy during his press conference said that Pack fans are notorious for mooning the opposing team bus as it leaves Lambeau after Packers wins, so he thought it was humorous and understood the move.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Redhawk on January 11, 2005, 11:58 PM: The eagles suck and infamy of create is going to eat his words! :P
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Mikey D on January 12, 2005, 07:45 AM: Quote from: Holographic Elvis on January 11, 2005, 09:06 PM
I'm truly amazed at how much press on talk on ESPN Radio the Randy Moss thing got.

Agreed. Think about it, it's Moss. Why is anything he does shocking? It's almost expected from him. If it was Manning, Brady, Rice, etc., I could see the brew-ha-ha. Not with Moss.

Dungy called it humorous. The same Dungy who was all up in arms regarding the TO - Nicolette Sheridan MNF skit and called it a disgrace? ::)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 12, 2005, 11:17 AM: He did it because the Green Bay fans always moon the other team's bus on their way into the stadium. They've been doing that since man discovered fire. He just gave them a little back. The fact that this has created so much outrage is quite humorous to me. The fans actually show their asses when they moon the team bus, Moss didn't.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: John C on January 12, 2005, 02:50 PM: And God knows the last thing anyone should have to look at is the bare butt of a Packer fan. ;)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 12, 2005, 09:40 PM: Quote from: SPIDERLEGS on January 12, 2005, 11:17 AM
He did it because the Green Bay fans always moon the other team's bus on their way into the stadium. They've been doing that since man discovered fire. He just gave them a little back. The fact that this has created so much outrage is quite humorous to me. The fans actually show their asses when they moon the team bus, Moss didn't.

Didn't read my post eh?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 13, 2005, 03:15 PM: I was simply reiterating your point... :-*
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 13, 2005, 05:45 PM: Great Article on MOONGATE 2005 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/050113)

My favorite part:

"It's unfortunate that it takes a mountain of criticism to bring out the best in Moss. But when Moss' best is on display, we shouldn't look for an easy excuse to ignore it. Or was that even what we were trying to ignore in the first place? Were we really looking for an excuse to ignore Brett Favre's choke job?

The networks' favorite folk hero tossed four interceptions that afternoon. But no one has talked much about that, because we've all wasted our week talking about Randy Moss' rear end"

My point from the get-go!
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: jadesfire on January 13, 2005, 08:39 PM: Quote from: JediMAC on January 10, 2005, 03:56 PM
Anyway, looking forward to a Rams/Colts Superbowl now!

Now that would be a GREAT game(well, the SLR half anyways) ;D.

Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 10, 2005, 04:23 PM
jedimac disillussioned as to who's going to be in the superbowl

Now, now now...no poking fun of the pink boy just because he's got half the bowl correct (I'll go with the Steelers for the AFC though).
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: BillCable on January 15, 2005, 09:31 PM: I don't usually mix my Star Wars and Steelers lives, but I just gotta post it...

(http://gloverlab.biochem.ualberta.ca/~dave/bmn/Source%20Files/woohoo.gif)
WOOHOO!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 15, 2005, 09:36 PM: Man did they get lucky. I learned 3 years ago that Doug Brien is the biggest stiff kicker in Football when he missed 2 Extra Points in consecutive games to lose 2 games for the Vikes...nice choke Doug

Nice win for the Steelers too, I can't wait for the AFC Championship.

Good game too right now betwixt the Lambs and the Birds

I'm nowhere near as nervous as I was last week tonight. Last week I knew there was a chance they could win and I didn't want them to lose. With last week over, this week is all gravy to me. I want a Vikes W but playing on the road again, outdoors, in the cold against the best team in the NFC (even with question marks) I don't think they can win and I don't expect them to.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Jesse James on January 15, 2005, 10:28 PM: Holy ****...

Plain and simple... I'm still coming down from this one today. The Steelers had all the numbers, and other than Ben deciding to play his worst game of the season today, the Steelers were pretty good... 2 int's, a fumble, and a special teams flop usually equal loss but our D was coming through pretty well all night and our running game was unstoppable.

I just wish they'd alternated Bettis and Staley earlier in the game rather than trying to rely on Bettis early.

Ben's game had been on, and this wouldn't have been vaguely the same game as it was... I'm feeling like crud though now after being out drinking last night and now spending an entire evening so tense I wanted to vomit.

And with that... Here's to next week.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 15, 2005, 11:09 PM: (http://www.kfan.com/images/homesportsimages/vikings/2004/previews/playoffs_week2.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Morgbug on January 16, 2005, 04:16 PM: :'(
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 16, 2005, 04:23 PM: Redhawk, Morburg, and all the other nasayers let me make it clear to you,since I'm not a humble person I TOLD YOU SO!

Terrel Owens is part of the offense he is not the Offense...so anyone want to make bets on the Falcons running game being shut down by the Eagles next week....I will!!!

Oh for the record I also mentioned that Eagles would man handle the Vikes 15 yards down the field that's exctly what they did nextweek expect the ball deep ....a lot.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 16, 2005, 04:34 PM: Lots of shooting in the foot by the Vikings didn't help their cause today. Eagles D line is great, sure wish they would have made a push for Kearse last season, dude is amazing

Trotter had a great game too...and the breaks they did get (Mitchell's fumble touchback and the other time they got the ball right back after a Daunte Int) went nowhere. Some stupid ass play calling at the end of the 1st half was inexcusable

Lots of changes need to be made for the Vikes, here's my wishlist:

2 New LB
1 New Safety
New Kicker
New Special Teams Coach
Big Fatass DT to plug the middle
DE
CB
RG to eventually replace Dixon
Trade Bennett for draft picks forcing them in to 1 starting RB and not a commitee of 4

Healthy Kleinsasser and a healthy Rosenthal might have been huge, especially in ball control and running game. They went down in weeks 1 and 2 and forced them in to lots and lots of passing

They have TONS of cap space this year, in fact they have the most in the NFL I think. I hope they do something because they are close to being a Super Bowl contender. Seriously

RE: Eagles vs Falcons

I've never been impressed with Vick but the way the Vikes ran today I would think the Falcons have a chance to run all day vs the Eagles. The Falcons D also should be able to keep it closer than today

I think the Eagles have it though

Can't wait for today's AFC game, should be a great one
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Nicklab on January 16, 2005, 04:45 PM: Welcome to let's wait for baseball mode, Scott.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Morgbug on January 16, 2005, 04:56 PM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 16, 2005, 04:23 PM
Redhawk, Morburg, and all the other nasayers let me make it clear to you,since I'm not a humble person I TOLD YOU SO!

Well, since I'm not humble either, there's a couple of things. I said the Vikings had a shot, I'm not quite clear where you get the impression that a suspension of humility is necessary? BTW, MorgBUG not Morgburg. ::)

The Eagles won, congrats to them. The Vikings did what they did all season long. I don't think I once said the Eagles didn't have a chance, quite the converse, I only said the Vikings had a shot. So your great prognostication is not much more than any Eagles fan would have spouted. "I told you so"? Uh, sure, ok. So did all the betting lines and I never put money on the Vikings, so you might try the humility aspect, given that you weren't exactly spewing forth anything resembling rocket science. ;) :-*
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 16, 2005, 11:15 PM: oh but see MorgBUG I'm so much more prolific than the rest of you bourgeois. As for my humility I known much more for my facetious tone than actually prognosticating my own humility. I guess that was missed.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Scott on January 16, 2005, 11:34 PM: Get Bent :P

I was just remembering when Trotter was out there this last summer screaming to my buddy that the Purple should sign him. Eagles got a steal by bringing him back.

I cannot believe how bad the Colts stunk it up today. I love watching the Pats too though so I didn't really care who won.

Next week I'll say Eagles win and so do the Pats...sorry Pitt guys and Mikey D will be in Sports Heaven for all eternity
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 16, 2005, 11:42 PM: I'll admit I underestimated the Eagles. They still have to get over the mental stigma of possibly losing 4 NFC Championship games in a row, a feat never before accomplished in NFL history.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Morgbug on January 17, 2005, 01:13 AM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 16, 2005, 11:15 PM
oh but see MorgBUG I'm so much more prolific than the rest of you bourgeois. As for my humility I known much more for my facetious tone than actually prognosticating my own humility. I guess that was missed.

Bah. Use smilies. Sumbitch :P ;)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: JediMAC on January 17, 2005, 03:42 AM: Go Steelers!!! :P

G'damn! ****** playoffs so far for any team I'm even remotely rooting for. My Rams got waxed. My wife's Packers got spanked. Chargers choked. And the Colts got beeotched. That leaves... the Steelers!

Not that I'm a Steelers fan, but we've become a bit of a Big Ben bandwagoner, and the Steelers are really the only team left that I wouldn't mind seeing win it all. But damn, the Pats look as tough as ever, so going through the defending champs is gonna be TOUGH, even if the game's in Pitt. Eagles shouldn't have any problems with the Falcons either. But I'll take whoever wins the AFC over them. (now that's a real prediction, unlike my Rams/Colts Superbowl blurb which was just wishful thinking)

Sad to see Manning go out the way he did, after such an incredible season. The monkey on his back continues to grow.

On an unrelated note, you guys catch the news story about former Raider lineman Barrett Robbins who went AWOL a couple years ago before the Superbowl (hanging out in Tijuana)? Apparently he got his ass all shot up by the cops after getting into a huge fight with one of them investigating him on a burglary charge. Now he's in critical condition in some Miami hospital. Crazy. Man, that dude's got some problems... Hope he pulls through and gets back into a mental hospital. :-\
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Mikey D on January 17, 2005, 07:49 AM: Quote from: Scott on January 16, 2005, 11:34 PM
Get Bent :P

Next week I'll say Eagles win and so do the Pats...sorry Pitt guys and Mikey D will be in Sports Heaven for all eternity

I hope so. The Eagles ****** it up last year.

Personally, I have nothing against Manning or the Colts, just the media sucking them off all the time. All I heard was Manning will light them up and run up and down the field on them. How those 3 points work for you? I don't think the loss falls squarely on Manning's shoulders, though. That D is horrendous. I don't know how many 3rd and longs they gave up.

The AFC Championship is going to be great. Two well balanced, hard hitting, smash mouth teams going at it for 60 (or possibly more) minutes. Good stuff. Pats key to victory - stop the Bus and Duce and make the rookie beat you. The Pats have opened up as early 3 points favorite, which should give the Steelers some motivation, not that they needed it.

GO PATS!!

GO EAGLES
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 17, 2005, 09:40 AM: Quote from: Scott on January 16, 2005, 11:34 PM
Get Bent :P

I was just remembering when Trotter was out there this last summer screaming to my buddy that the Purple should sign him. Eagles got a steal by bringing him back.

I cannot believe how bad the Colts stunk it up today. I love watching the Pats too though so I didn't really care who won.

Next week I'll say Eagles win and so do the Pats...sorry Pitt guys and Mikey D will be in Sports Heaven for all eternity

Scott All I can say is maybe your buddy should've listened to him. Trotter made the biggest impact on the defense yesterday. He will next week. Expect pressure on vick all day long next week.

Spiderlegs.... Is that your humility showing. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2005, 07:37 PM: Quote from: JediMAC on January 17, 2005, 03:42 AM
Go Steelers!!! :P

G'damn! ****** playoffs so far for any team I'm even remotely rooting for. My Rams got waxed. My wife's Packers got spanked. Chargers choked. And the Colts got beeotched. That leaves... the Steelers!

By all means, root for the patriots then. ::) :P
Title: To all the Eagles naysayers
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 23, 2005, 06:16 PM: To all the Eagle naysayers this comes FROM somewhere inside of me I have told you all along

GO F yourself, pay attention, YOUR IN MY HOUSE!! On to Jacksonville as for the rest of you, sit down, your done with your season!

EAGLES
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: jjks on January 23, 2005, 07:21 PM: Only took you four tries to be able to say that, I can see why you're so excited. ::)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on January 23, 2005, 10:23 PM: Pretty dominant wins by both winning teams today. The Patriots right now look unstoppable

I hate that we have to wait two weeks so the media can talk about wether T.O. is going to play or not every single minute of the day

Right now, I'm leaning toward a Patriots rout, I just see no weaknesses in their game. They have beaten the two best teams in football behind them in consecutive weeks in blowouts...amazing in this day and age
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2005, 10:53 PM: Well, obviously I am incredibly sad right now... I'm disappointed in the overall performance of the STeelers the last two games.

Roethlisberger's gonna take a lot of the heat, and that isn't fair considering our pass coverage was non-existant tonight (Brady had his pick of downfield throws it seemed), and a lot of the plays were botched at times by receivers... Of course Plaxico's already whining about not getting enough throws to suit him and leaving the team. ::) Ward was playing hurt, so I give him credit, and he's always a class act too after the game.

The Pats played the exact same way they did in October, they just made it connect and we didn't make our end of things work... Oh well, "any given sunday" as they say.

Lots of little things killed us, and the Turnovers obviously. I'm disappointed, but now I just root for Philly instead I guess... Go Eagles. I still love the Steelers and I'll be back to supporting them next year. Hopefully we'll return with an improved "Big Ben" who's got more solid experience, and I'm hoping Bettis returns... Again a solid guy and class act who I'd love to watch play a little while longer, though he's concerned about his health after football I'm sure.

Welp, Go Eagles... :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2005, 12:37 AM: Even though they won today, it doesn't dampen my fond memories of watching Ronde Barber's back as he ran 90+ yards for the TD a few years ago. And it doesn't dampen my fond memories of the Bolts/Flyers series a year ago.

Lucky Eagles - they finally get past their own mediocrity largely due to the fact that the NFC was so completely weak this year and get the honor of being the Patriots whipping boys in Jacksonville.

It's nothing to get excited about. It's just going to set Philly fans up for more disappointment.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: jjks on January 24, 2005, 12:44 AM: Quote from: Kneel Before Zod on January 24, 2005, 12:37 AM

It's nothing to get excited about. It's just going to set Philly fans up for more disappointment.

Amen! I may hate the thought of the Patriots winning another ring, but the joy it'll bring my heart seeing the Eagles come so close just to fall short again will be worth it.

Get ready IOC, Super Bowl Sunday is gonna be one ugly day for Eagles fans.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 08:20 AM: Do you hate the eagles because your teams doesn't even get close to the superbowl or do you not like the eagles because they have been to the cahmpionship game 3 times. Either way you come off petty(no less than me anyway)

First you all bitched aww they'll never make it without T.O. then you bitched because they were talking about T.O. T.O. Will be in the superbowl....and once again I think the patriots are strong....but the one thing you all miss about the Eagles is these guys love to play football it is a game to them it's not a business it's about the sport and the fans...win or lose it's brings back fun to the game. I'm sorry you haven't been a philly fan all your life to understand the passion the fans have for their team, it's not like anything else you have expereinced (you hear about the negative).

You can say the Eagles didn't choke or this or that but you know what your team isn't there this year mine is ....I'm enjoying maybe your team will be there next year so you can enjoy it.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Mikey D on January 24, 2005, 08:53 AM: Ah, nirvana. My dream SB match up has finally happened. About ******* time.

Plus to make it sweeter, I'm about to win $240 from my wife's pick em pool. Went 4 for 4 yesterday, picking spreads and over/under. I think I'm far enough ahead, that is no need to pick the SB. Now I can just sit back, host the party, enjoy watching the game on my new theater set up and get blitzed. Great stuff ;D
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: jjks on January 24, 2005, 10:11 AM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 08:20 AM
Do you hate the eagles because your teams doesn't even get close to the superbowl or do you not like the eagles because they have been to the cahmpionship game 3 times. Either way you come off petty(no less than me anyway)

I actually don't hate the Eagles at all, I just have little respect for some of their fans (such as you) who should be extremely humble after having failed so many times before, but instead act like they've won the past three Super Bowls.

Why don't you take a hint from how Mikey acts with his Patriots and show a little respect, and maybe, just maybe, you'll get some in return.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2005, 10:26 AM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 08:20 AM
Do you hate the eagles because your teams doesn't even get close to the superbowl or do you not like the eagles because they have been to the cahmpionship game 3 times. Either way you come off petty(no less than me anyway)

No no, I hate the Eagles because while my Bucs were on their way to throttling them in their own stadium in the 2002 NFCC game, Eagle fans in the stands were asking Bucs WR Joe Jurevicous where his son was and why his son hadn't made it to the game.

His infant son, who had died days earlier.

It's not the team, it's the city and it's fans. Hell I like Andy Reid and I like Donovan McNabb, but I'm not going to root for a team who needed a courthouse in their stadium to expedite the proseuction of a bunch of battery throwing knuckleheads. Finally getting to the Superbowl is nice and all - but there's no way the Eagles will win it. Which will make it all the more fun to watch.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Nicklab on January 24, 2005, 10:35 AM: Quote from: Jesse James on January 23, 2005, 10:53 PM

Roethlisberger's gonna take a lot of the heat, and that isn't fair considering our pass coverage was non-existant tonight (Brady had his pick of downfield throws it seemed), and a lot of the plays were botched at times by receivers.

Roethlisberger did fine for a rookie. Seriously, for a rookie QB to get his team that far is quite an achievement. Pittsburgh was really built on running the ball, and the receivers didn't get that much love this year. It'll be interesting to see how the Steelers retool for next year.

Now since I have no love for the Eagles (Giants fan here), GO PATS!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 03:23 PM: Quote from: Kneel Before Zod on January 24, 2005, 10:26 AM
Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 08:20 AM
Do you hate the eagles because your teams doesn't even get close to the superbowl or do you not like the eagles because they have been to the cahmpionship game 3 times. Either way you come off petty(no less than me anyway)

No no, I hate the Eagles because while my Bucs were on their way to throttling them in their own stadium in the 2002 NFCC game, Eagle fans in the stands were asking Bucs WR Joe Jurevicous where his son was and why his son hadn't made it to the game.

His infant son, who had died days earlier.

It's not the team, it's the city and it's fans. Hell I like Andy Reid and I like Donovan McNabb, but I'm not going to root for a team who needed a courthouse in their stadium to expedite the proseuction of a bunch of battery throwing knuckleheads. Finally getting to the Superbowl is nice and all - but there's no way the Eagles will win it. Which will make it all the more fun to watch.

Stop it, your making miss home now. AS for the Eagles not winning Guess what Tampa bay wouldn't be anything with out John Gruden who by the way was the Eagles offensive coordinator back in the mid 90's You can have our throw out we're done with them. :)
Pats are a good team I will give you that. I am nervous that the Eagles may infact lose,but you know what I have something to celebrate this year unfortuantley you don't.

As for the fans I'm an Eagles fan You may think what you like, but you should probably meet me first before you cast judgement unlike others on this board who believe I asm ehat I am. I know I act like an Ass everyone expects it from me at least the "old timers" and it comes easily to me somepeople are just born to be an ass .I guess everyone has their calling in life.

JJKS
Why should I be humbled? a team that made it to the championship three times is a great team. A team that makes it to the superbowl is a great team....I still think the Steelers did a great job this year despite the rookie mistakes Rothelisberger made yesterday and last week. If I'm correct hasn't the Steelers, Buffalo, Dallas, Miami, NE all been in the same position going to the championship on many occassions and not making it(not consecutive years). I think maybe your definition of what great has to be tweaked either that or just maybe come to realize your team you route for will never make you happy. Unless, your a fair whetherd fan who is now on the NE ban wagon. good luck with that negative energy thing I hope it works out for you. :)

JJKS
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs!
Post by: JediMAC on January 24, 2005, 04:05 PM: Quote from: Jesse James on January 17, 2005, 07:37 PM
Quote from: JediMAC on January 17, 2005, 03:42 AM
Go Steelers!!! :P

G'damn! ****** playoffs so far for any team I'm even remotely rooting for. My Rams got waxed. My wife's Packers got spanked. Chargers choked. And the Colts got beeotched. That leaves... the Steelers!

By all means, root for the patriots then. ::) :P

Sorry I jinxed your boys there, Jess... :-\

Couple more crappy, uncompetitive games yesterday. Playoffs this year have been a snore. As much as I despise the Pats (since they won their first Super Bowl after technically losing to the Raiders two games prior in the "Snow Job" game), I'm really rather starting to respect them and their coach. They aren't the typical fancy, big name, showboating team of superstar players that so many others are in this league. They just go out and get it done every week. Man, they're tough. Just no way I see the Eagles cracking that, and pulling out a W in a couple of weeks. The Pats are very much like the Spurs in the NBA, IMO. Dominant. Winners. Champions. But just not too terribly exciting, so a lot of folks don't get to overly thrilled for them when they win. But I'm digging Brady more and more, especially when he's got that cool beard and doesn't look like some pretty boy surfer kid from SoCal. Looks more like a football player now! ;)

I could stomach an Eagles win, as long as T.O. doesn't get in the game. He's fun and amusing to watch, but he's a serious idiot too, so I'd rather not see him get any "Champion" type of recognition. I think it would eat him alive if they won it all without him in the lineup.

Either way, this is a Superbowl I'm not terribly interested in. But there are some serious stakes on the line, namely winning #3 and getting that "Dynasty" tag for the Pats. Most likely gonna happen.

I'll mostly be looking forward to the beer, snacks, and commercials! :P
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2005, 04:24 PM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 03:23 PM
I am nervous that the Eagles may infact lose,but you know what I have something to celebrate this year unfortuantley you don't.

I'd rather be at home polishing a 2 year old Lombardi than setting myself up for another near miss. We've also got the defending Stanley Cup champs - who went right through the Flyers to get there.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: jjks on January 24, 2005, 05:10 PM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 03:23 PM
JJKS
Why should I be humbled?

Can't believe this actually needs to be explained, but you should be humbled because your team hasn't been able to get it done when it matters for three years in a row! Congrats are definitely in order for finally getting over that hump, but try having an ounce of humility when you raise that NFC trophy. McNabb did, and guess what, I respect him more for it. I guess that was too much to ask to trickle down to the Eagles fans.

Not sure why you keep bringing up the team I ~~route~~root for not making me happy, because I've never once alluded to that. The Titans had an off year no doubt, but by no means does that make me any less of a fan. I love 'em when they suck, and I'll love 'em when they're back on top. I'm just happy to have a team period.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: jjks on January 24, 2005, 05:16 PM: Quote from: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 03:23 PM
...unlike others on this board who believe I asm ehat I am.

I know that being an "ass" is part of your internet schick, as is your complete disregard for properly handling a keyboard, but even I (and I say this because we go back) need some help translating this one!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 24, 2005, 05:53 PM: THat ok I need help translating that mess too. That was just a nod to Panaka I guess. ;D

"who believe I am what I am" .

seriously, I'm typing much faster these days as I am writing more and more papers for my thesis. Which is by the way revolves around deviant behavior,(you know, why I do the things I do). I don't have as much time as I once did but damnit I miss messing around with you guys.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: jjks on January 24, 2005, 06:14 PM: We are the last of a dying breed aren't we? ;D

I popped into GH a few weeks ago to try to talk some sense into Scoundrel, but he'd have none of that!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on January 26, 2005, 01:05 PM: (http://host-a.oddcast.com/ccs2/customhost/121/thumbs/1106761857925420.jpg)

This Guy Thinks the Eagles are toast (http://host-d.oddcast.com/php/gallery/door=121&messageId=2424152)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 26, 2005, 01:55 PM: Cute scott. Next time I wouldn't let stephen Hawkins do the talking for you though. ;D

The Eagles will show up ready to play. THe patriots are going to have to work if they want this one.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 27, 2005, 05:13 PM: I can't believe it, but being such a Cowboys fan, and hating the Eagles, I still have to root for the Eagles because if the Patriots win, they will match the Cowboys unprecedented 3 of 4 years as Super Bowl Champs. Otherwise, I'd root for the Patriots. Go...uh...Eagles...

¡¡¡THE COWBOYS LEGACY MUST REMAIN INTACT!!!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on January 27, 2005, 06:29 PM: Welcome to the darkside Spiderlegs I knew you would go my way.

Or, (in his best darth vader)join me and we will fulfill our destiny
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 28, 2005, 06:10 PM: I have a few Philly fans who are WAY TOO overjoyed at the prospect of me rooting for the Eagles...geez... ::)
Title: Game over New England T.O. in on sunday
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on February 1, 2005, 11:12 AM: Game over New England

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - All-Pro receiver Terrell Owens said Tuesday he will play in the Super Bowl, a day after practicing with the Philadelphia Eagles.

"I will play on Sunday," Owens said. "I know the type person I am. I have a lot of faith in my ability. I feel great. I'm proving a lot of people wrong. The sky is the limit for me. There are no limitations."

Brushing aside his doctor's advice and _ some might say _ common sense, Owens returned to the practice field Monday, determined to pull off the most improbable play of his career by making it to the Super Bowl.

He ran the required routes. He made the necessary cuts. And _ is this a sign of what's to come Sunday against the defending champion New England Patriots? _ he caught the passes that were thrown his way.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on February 1, 2005, 11:22 AM: Ok...New England 55 Philly 10
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on February 1, 2005, 12:59 PM: Rumor in the paper today that said Emmitt is retiring and is going to join the group led by Reggie Fowler to buy the Vikes
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on February 2, 2005, 10:48 PM: My presiction for next years movement in th NFL

Dallas Eddie George goes to Philadelphia. THat would be the icing on the cake for me Edide's in free agency this year I would imgaine philly gets him for a bargain(because he didn;t have good numbers last year) he flys under the radar and his game matches philly.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Mikey D on February 3, 2005, 07:21 AM: Quote from: Scott on February 1, 2005, 12:59 PM
Rumor in the paper today that said Emmitt is retiring and is going to join the group led by Reggie Fowler to buy the Vikes

I hate the Cowboys and will always root against them, but it was tough for me to hate Emmitt. Class act all the way.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: JediMAC on February 3, 2005, 03:49 PM: More Viking "class" (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2004/02/02/bc.fbn.superbowl.culpep.ap/index.html?cnn=yes)

Looks like Randy's idiocy is starting to rub off on his teammates... :P
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Vator on February 6, 2005, 11:30 AM: Go Eagles! Show those bastardly Pats a good fight!
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 6, 2005, 08:32 PM: **** the football and **** the commercials, Paul just put on the best show in Superbowl history.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Morgbug on February 6, 2005, 10:21 PM: Really enjoyable football game, loved the second half. Eagles covered the spread and it's hard to see a team, even one you hate, lose a game that close.

But since only one team is the winner and it's not the Eagles, then allow me to be the first.

Infamy of Crete..... :-*
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2005, 10:36 PM: Great Game
Great Half Time
Great everything!

I knew the Pats would win! :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2005, 10:38 PM: Quote from: JediMAC on February 3, 2005, 03:49 PM
More Viking "class" (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2004/02/02/bc.fbn.superbowl.culpep.ap/index.html?cnn=yes)

Looks like Randy's idiocy is starting to rub off on his teammates... :P
PS That story is bull****

Last update: February 4, 2005 at 8:02 AM
Inside XXXIX: Culpepper blindsided by erroneous reporting
Kevin Seifert
February 4, 2005 SUPE0204.DIARY

JACKSONVILLE, FLA. -- This is what happens when there is too much media and not enough stories.

One of the NFL's most genuine and kind players carried out a genuinely kind act Wednesday. And what did Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper get for his thoughtfulness?

National scorn, thanks to an Associated Press reporter who misinterpreted the scene and never bothered to follow up with the key players.

Here's what happened: While participating in a news conference Wednesday, Culpepper fielded an awkward question from a paralyzed 17-year-old boy. "Hey Daunte," said J.T. Townsend. "Can I get some ice?" -- a reference to the $100,000, diamond-encrusted necklace around Culpepper's neck.

With cameras rolling, Culpepper walked over to Townsend and thrilled him by hanging the necklace around his neck. Later, Culpepper sought out Townsend and put the chain back on. At Culpepper's request, Townsend's parents wrote down his address and contact information. Culpepper promised to send him gifts and memorabilia.

We were standing at Culpepper's side when the transaction took place. There was no animosity, no hurt feelings and no accusations of impropriety -- only thank-yous from Townsend, his parents and a doctor nearby.

The AP version of the story, however, in essence painted Culpepper as a spoiled athlete who "sheepishly" took away a gift from a paralyzed teenager once the cameras stopped shooting. Newspapers and Internet sites picked up the story nationally. One problem: Nothing could have been further from the truth.

Anyone who has met Culpepper knows he wears the necklace every day. He has for years. Garish as it might be -- its main ornament is a 6-inch hot pepper -- it carries sentimental and personal value. Since when is anyone -- athlete, actor, politician or average schmoe -- obligated to hand over personal possessions permanently when someone asks? Or should Culpepper have shot down the request and embarrassed Townsend on television?

If that's your story, then the next time someone asks you for your wedding ring or a sweater your grandmother knitted, you better cough it up. Or else find some real news to write about.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: John C on February 6, 2005, 10:47 PM: TO really did a great job. I don't care for the guy, but at least he played his heart out. The Eagles shouldn't feel embarrased at all. This was a game worthy of the name Superbowl.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Mikey D on February 7, 2005, 07:58 AM: Great game played by both sides. All week long all I heard was the Pats were going to blow them out, winning by 2+ TDs. I just ::) at that. The spread when I made my pick was 6.5 and it took me a while to decide who to pick. I lost that pick, picking the Pats to win by a TD.

TO is a great athlete, good game by him. Didn't see much from Fred Ex, though. And Pinkston made some great catches too.

Time to sit back and watch the parade, not going to able to attend this one.

Football is over :( But pitchers and catchers report in 10 days. ;D
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on February 7, 2005, 12:33 PM: To all the hecklers out there (morgbug). I don't care what anyone says Philly did a great job against NewEngland Donovan panicked a little antd it ultimately cost us the game.....but overall they held New England pretty well.
It wasn't the blowout people thought it would be Don;t count phillyouot for next year.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Morgbug on February 7, 2005, 12:42 PM: :P

Shoe meet other foot. You deserve it and it was pretty mild at that. Your reading comprehension still lacks though, as you always miss the rest of the comments that are included. In point of fact, post game no one has said Philly didn't play great or that it wasn't one of the better super bowl games ever.

Humble. Pie. You may not like it, but you're eating it. :-*

sincerely,
heckler ;D
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Scott on February 7, 2005, 04:09 PM: Biggest rip off of the night...Tom Brady not winning the MVP. He was the clearcut winner IMO. Sure Branch had a big game but the NE receivers are about as interchangable as they get (Patten, Brown, Branch etc) Brady was amazing and made some amazing throws...he's as good in the big games as Montana ever was. McNabb showed exactly why he hasn't won one yet, same old bad mistakes in the crunch
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Mikey D on February 7, 2005, 04:13 PM: I honestly thought Rodney Harrison deserved it. No arguments for Branch though. I think he sealed it when he made that catch that looked like an interception. Went right through the defenders' hands and caught by Deion. Amazing concentration.
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on February 8, 2005, 11:43 AM: Quote from: Morgbug on February 7, 2005, 12:42 PM
:P

Shoe meet other foot. You deserve it and it was pretty mild at that. Your reading comprehension still lacks though, as you always miss the rest of the comments that are included. In point of fact, post game no one has said Philly didn't play great or that it wasn't one of the better super bowl games ever.

Humble. Pie. You may not like it, but you're eating it. :-*

sincerely,
heckler ;D

It's not my comprehension skills morgbug I just tune out when I read a lot of mediocrity,that's all. Try not to answer so burgeoise and I'll respond better. :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: Morgbug on February 8, 2005, 12:06 PM: Ah, the cultural elite. I had no idea, you have my deepest and most profound apologies.

In essence then... you read what you like and ignore the rest. Duly noted. Arrogant, but noted :P
Title: Re: Super Bowl XXXIX New England vs Philadelphia
Post by: JediMAC on February 8, 2005, 08:29 PM: Anyway.

Little late to the discussion, but I found the game rather... uninteresting. I dunno why. Just seemed like the Pats seemed like such a sure thing, even when they were down a TD, that the outcome of the game was never really in question. Lots of turnovers, even more that should've been turnovers, and I'm not too much of a fan of defense so the more scoring the better for me. But even when Philly was coming back, I never felt like there were any anxious moments that had me on the edge of my seat. Just kinda blah.

But congrats to the Pats. Definitely to be considered a dynasty now. T.O. sure showed everyone something too. He may be a dickhead personally, but he's an amazing athlete and always fun to watch. Hopefully he didn't jack himself up too much in the losing effort. Kudos to Philly for a great season too, and for at least keeping it close here, even if it didn't really feel like it.

BTW, anyone catch that Tsunami relief ad where they were taking donations of stuff? One of the donations being handed off right in plain view was one of those Separatist 3-pack Screen Scenes! Even my wife caught it. Pretty funny, I thought...

Anyway, looking forward to 2005/06, when I'll finally get my dream matchup of the Rams and Raiders in the Superbowl! :P (which would've happened 4 years ago had the infamous "snowjob" not occured, but I know Mikey doesn't want to hear about that again... ;))