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Title: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on January 5, 2015, 11:36 AM
Rebelscum's Hasbro: The Force Awakens Product Rundown (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_The_Force_Awakens_Product_Rundown_161773.asp)

Nice rumor list from 'scum.  Nothing confirmed, but I wonder if this list "leaked" to help stem some of the "OMG 3.75inch Star Wars figures are dead" rumors out there?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on January 5, 2015, 12:59 PM
That is one exhaustive list. It does quell some of the sky is falling type of panic that might have been induced by that first glimpse of those 6" figures. And it's kind of funny. I had forgotten how big a movie year line can be.  Even if a lot of it is kid oriented or gimmick laden.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on January 5, 2015, 01:25 PM
Very interesting list. Best thing: Micro Machines!  ;D
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on January 5, 2015, 02:52 PM
Hunter PR statement regarding Toy Fair and the fact that there won't be any TFA toy line reveals

From Hunter PR to Star Wars media Regarding Hasbro's Showroom at the 2015 International Toy Fair.

With Toy Fair approaching and Hasbro's annual Entertainment Brand Preview Day scheduled for Saturday, February 14th, we wanted to reach out and clarify what Hasbro's Star Wars presence will entail at this year's show.

As usual, Hasbro will be exhibiting a variety of fun and exciting Star Wars products from across its portfolio of brands, including Star Wars action figures, Star Wars Galactic Heroes and more. There will be no toys based on Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Star Wars Episode VII) shown at Toy Fair this year.

Obviously, we know that there's a huge amount of anticipation for Star Wars toys this year, and we wanted to be forthcoming about this as we know it might make a difference for some of you in regards to travel plans. While we're happy to host all of you at Entertainment Brand Preview Day and look forward to having you check out the latest and greatest toys from Star Wars and Hasbro's other exciting brands, we want you to have as much information as possible to be able to plan your travel and coverage.

We're extremely excited for the year ahead—which will undoubtedly be one of the most exciting years ever for fans of Star Wars and Hasbro's Star Wars toys—and we look forward to working with each of you extensively over the coming year.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Greg on January 5, 2015, 05:54 PM
I guess the grand unveiling for Episode 7 toys will be at Celebration, which makes sense I suppose. It's just a bummer that all we will probably see at Toy Fair are the same TBS figures that have been shown since SDCC.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2015, 09:26 PM
Yeah, I'm not honestly shocked at all and it was kind of impacting my plans.  I have a feeling all engines are full on TFA and "new" between now and then may be slim, and TF is going to be a slow show of goods for that gap.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rob on January 5, 2015, 09:46 PM
Am I missing something?  I only see a 6-inch Starfighter. 

OMG THE 6-INCH LINE IS DOA!1!!!!1!!
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on January 6, 2015, 11:06 AM
A 6" starfighter?  That's got the potential to be enormous.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Phrubruh on January 7, 2015, 09:27 AM
Unless they mean a 6" in length starfighter.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rob on January 7, 2015, 10:53 AM
Unless they mean a 6" in length starfighter.

This doesn't actually strike me as far fetched.  Seems more likely than a 3 or 4 foot long X-Wing, especially given that I don't see any mention of 6" scale figures in that rumor list.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2015, 06:00 AM
So, the future of Star Wars collecting?  Here's some info based on some recently uncovered Target store DPCI numbers.  At this time there are only DPCI numbers, rough descriptions and price points:


3.75" FIGURE SYSTEM

3.75" BASIC FIGURES
087-06-3658 SW E7 3.75 Single Fig                             7.99$

3.75" SYSTEM VEHICLES
087-06-3662 E7 Class 1 Vehicle                                   9.99$
087-06-3663 E7 Class 1 Dlx Vehicle                             24.99$
087-06-3664 Class II Vehicle                                       29.99$


6" FIGURE SYSTEM
087-06-3670 Black Series 6"                                        19.99$
087-06-3696 SW Black series 6in Fig 2.                         39.99$


12" HERO SERIES FIGURE SYSTEM
087-06-3681 SW EP 7 Hero Series fig.                      9.99$
087-06-3694 SW E7 Hero Series Fig 6.                    49.99$


HERO MASHERS
087-06-3675 SW Hero Mashers.                              9.99$
087-06-3676 SW Hero Mashers Dlx.                        14.99$


ROLE PLAY
087-06-3644 SW Extendable Lightsaber                      9.99$
087-06-3645 SW E7 Mask asst                                   9.99$
087-06-3646 SW Villain Extendable Lightsaber           12.99$
087-06-3647 SW Nerf Foam Lightsaber                      14.99$
087-06-3648 SW Electronic Lightsaber                       19.99$
087-06-3649 SW Villain Electronic (mask)                  34.99$
087-06-3650 SW Villain Dlx Lightsaber                       29.99$
087-06-3651 SW Alien Electronic Mask                       29.99$
087-06-3652 SW Darth Vader Voice changing Helmet  34.99$
087-06-3653 SW Signature Lightsaber                       49.99$
087-06-3654 SW E7 Ammo Refill                                9.99$
087-06-3655 SW Villain Trooper Whit                         12.99$
087-06-3656 SW Sidekick Alien Blaster                      24.99$
087-06-3657 SW Villain Trooper Whit                         39.99$
087-06-3672  Toy constrc SW 2                                149.99$
087-06-3674 SW EP II Yoda Lightsaber.                     199.99$
087-06-3695 SW choose yr destiny lightsaber.             49.99$
087-06-3697 SW E7 Darth Vader Lightsaber.                44.99$



MICRO MACHINES
087-06-3684 SW vehicle blind bag.                          2.49$
087-06-3685 SW vehicle 3 pack.                                4.99$
087-06-3686 SW MM Dlx vehicle asst.                         9.99$
087-06-3688 SW E7 MM Battle Set.                            19.99$

ASSORTED / UNIDENTIFIED
3659 - 3661 had no information, only prices.
3677-3680 no info
087-06-3668 Black Series Die Cast                               4.99$
087-06-3689 SW Collectable                                      19.99$
087-06-3692 SW E7 RC Lead Hero Droid.                    79.99$
087-06-3693 Furby E7 Sidekick Alien.                          79.99$




Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on March 24, 2015, 08:28 AM
Hmmm, that is some interesting stuff there. I don't see them trawling out high quality SA figures for $7.99. Guessing these will be 5 POA, let the rioting commence.  :P

The vehicle assortment is intriguing. What can you really get for $10? A mini-rig? Even without the pack-in figures that seems a bit low. I could see the Class I Deluxe being the current scaled down ships like the Slave I, etc. Or maybe a mini-rig with 2 pack-in figures like they were doing near the end of TCW. What I'm really hoping for the Class II Vehicle is a return to properly scaled 3&3/4" compatible stuff.

Black Series 2-packs could be intriguing, but they will probably see this as a way to re-package pegwarming crud so it will end up being a bunch of Han/Greedo packs hanging around again.

I look forward to seeing this report showing up on the other sites' front pages in a week or two.  :D
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on March 24, 2015, 10:39 AM
Maybe the line posted for the 4" figures is TFA with the 5 PoA ones keeping the same (or would that be listed there)? 

There's nothing about the deluxe 6" line either, so I'm thinking it just wasn't listed and is keeping the same DPCI.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2015, 11:00 AM
They don't have Mission Series, $10 3 3/4", or Legends listed.  But they do have a replacement 6" figure DCPI at the same price point. 

Maybe this listing is just the new DPCIs and they'll keep the existing DCPIs 3 3/4" DCPIs active.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rob on March 24, 2015, 12:35 PM
Hmmm, that is some interesting stuff there. I don't see them trawling out high quality SA figures for $7.99. Guessing these will be 5 POA, let the rioting commence.  :P

Hopefully it'll be somewhere between the two extremes... They sold the reduced articulation as a way to cut prices, then over the course of the first year or so, the price creeps up by a third.  They could just have a little more to them without being SA figures... maybe better accessories?

Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2015, 12:46 PM
The info was passed along to me from someone I know/trust.  Some of the DPCI numbers lacked descriptions.  That could mean any of a number of things, and isn't necessarily indicative of the scope of the line.  I would look at this as more of a first glimpse rather than anything else.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on March 24, 2015, 01:04 PM
I'm pretty sure this means we're looking at a 5POA main lineup. 

Hopefully what Hasbro hinted a while back about 3.75" black series continuing holds true; I'm not feeling too good about all of that though right now.

Thanks for sharing this list, Nicklab.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on March 24, 2015, 04:07 PM
Interesting list...  I wouldn't panic on TBS 4" just yet.  I have a feeling there is more news to come on that front.

The vehicles were intriguing.  3 price points seems ambitious.  Assuming $30 is just the old $19.99 decent ships we used to receive.  I was hoping 5 POA would see a price drop too but that appears to not be happening.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2015, 04:15 PM
3.75" FIGURE SYSTEM

3.75" BASIC FIGURES
087-06-3658 SW E7 3.75 Single Fig                             7.99$

3.75" SYSTEM VEHICLES
087-06-3662 E7 Class 1 Vehicle                                   9.99$
087-06-3663 E7 Class 1 Dlx Vehicle                             24.99$
087-06-3664 Class II Vehicle                                       29.99$


6" FIGURE SYSTEM
087-06-3670 Black Series 6"                                        19.99$
087-06-3696 SW Black series 6in Fig 2.                         39.99$


12" HERO SERIES FIGURE SYSTEM
087-06-3681 SW EP 7 Hero Series fig.                      9.99$
087-06-3694 SW E7 Hero Series Fig 6.                    49.99$


HERO MASHERS
087-06-3675 SW Hero Mashers.                              9.99$
087-06-3676 SW Hero Mashers Dlx.                        14.99$


ROLE PLAY
087-06-3644 SW Extendable Lightsaber                      9.99$
087-06-3645 SW E7 Mask asst                                   9.99$
087-06-3646 SW Villain Extendable Lightsaber           12.99$
087-06-3647 SW Nerf Foam Lightsaber                      14.99$
087-06-3648 SW Electronic Lightsaber                       19.99$
087-06-3649 SW Villain Electronic (mask)                  34.99$
087-06-3650 SW Villain Dlx Lightsaber                       29.99$
087-06-3651 SW Alien Electronic Mask                       29.99$
087-06-3652 SW Darth Vader Voice changing Helmet  34.99$
087-06-3653 SW Signature Lightsaber                       49.99$
087-06-3654 SW E7 Ammo Refill                                9.99$
087-06-3655 SW Villain Trooper Whit                         12.99$
087-06-3656 SW Sidekick Alien Blaster                      24.99$
087-06-3657 SW Villain Trooper Whit                         39.99$
087-06-3672  Toy constrc SW 2                                149.99$
087-06-3674 SW EP II Yoda Lightsaber.                     199.99$
087-06-3695 SW choose yr destiny lightsaber.             49.99$
087-06-3697 SW E7 Darth Vader Lightsaber.                44.99$



MICRO MACHINES
087-06-3684 SW vehicle blind bag.                          2.49$
087-06-3685 SW vehicle 3 pack.                                4.99$
087-06-3686 SW MM Dlx vehicle asst.                         9.99$
087-06-3688 SW E7 MM Battle Set.                            19.99$

ASSORTED / UNIDENTIFIED
3659 - 3661 had no information, only prices.
3677-3680 no info
087-06-3668 Black Series Die Cast                               4.99$
087-06-3689 SW Collectable                                      19.99$
087-06-3692 SW E7 RC Lead Hero Droid.                    79.99$
087-06-3693 Furby E7 Sidekick Alien.                          79.99$

Thanks for posting Nick.  Great reminder just how much stuff will be heading our way this Fall for a new movie. :P

I'll agree with the folks who are thinking that this list may not be complete and there is hope for the Mission Series (Ahsoka/Vader, etc) and the "collector" 3.75" line still.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on March 24, 2015, 04:21 PM
Thanks Nicklab!

I agree, as Nicklab himself said, this is unlikely to be comprehensive and we sort of already know Mission Series is continuing. I was worried we'd see a price hike on the 5 POA stuff and this seems to indicate we'll see it. Unless we're seeing a bump in articulation in this line - which maybe - I'd think it's really in Hasbro's best interest to keep the line as affordable as possible. It's working for them, after all. Anyways, all speculation for now. Everything seems very big and movie launch-ish. It will be a great fall and winter I'm sure.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on March 24, 2015, 04:35 PM
Darth Vader EpVII Lightsaber. Interesting.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2015, 07:33 PM
Darth Vader EpVII Lightsaber. Interesting.

There's also a listing for a Yoda lightsaber. All things considered, I'm not reading too much into these relatively vague product listings.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on March 24, 2015, 08:30 PM
Yeah, probably just packaging things, but hey you never know.

There are certain iconic things they're going to definitely want to carry around, film to film, and cash in on.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Ben on March 24, 2015, 11:04 PM
I'm hoping the $8 figures are middle-of-the-road on articulation, in that they offer figures with waists and elbows again.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on March 25, 2015, 01:03 AM
I'm not overly hopeful for them going to 2007-levels for the line overall...  Hitting SA sometimes, not always, and sometimes not at all.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Diddly on March 25, 2015, 09:58 PM
Intriguing list. At $8 a pop, I can't see us getting purely 5POA figures in the basic line. There should at least be something extra, elbows, knees, etc. Especially if the $30 vehicle line is what we used to get for $20. If the "Deluxe Vehicle" line is anything like that line from a few years ago where we got that Republic Drop Pod, those were awesome, and I'm pumped, especially since that would be great for Kira's ice cream bar speeder we see in the teaser.

The most exciting thing to me, though, is the return of Micro Machines! I hope they make some from all of the movies because I'd go all in.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on April 23, 2015, 04:05 PM
Well, we are all over the map today.

Hasbro: "we have no plans to stop Black Series" (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2015/04/23/celebration-hasbro-qna-makingstarwars-net/)

So... $10,000 question - when they say "Black Series", do they mean 6", 3.75", or both?  The answer sounds like they mean both... but then again, they have been avoiding 3.75" answers like the plague lately and only showed Fall 2015 packaging for the 6" line.  Hmmm...


Meanwhile, JTA hears the 3.75" collector line may be a single store (TRU?) exclusive (Again, this is just a RUMOR). (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15476) 

There was a rumor a while back that Hasbro was considering a "direct-to-consumer" model for the collector stuff, like they did with GI Joe.  Only that rumor has the collectors stuff at HasbroToyShop. 


I really wish Hasbro would have had the balls to just come out at Celebration and tell us one way or the other for sure - is the 3.75" collector line DEAD or ALIVE?  Every non-answer they offer up just feeds the speculation that the only reason they are not talking about 3.75" is that there is nothing good to tell us...

Instead....  we wait and wade in the rumor pools.   :-\
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 23, 2015, 04:53 PM
I'm hopeful for basically ANYTHING of good quality.  2007-levels at least.

Short of that, I will be buying a lot less than I'd like to be buying this upcoming year.  And I'll deal with that because, basically, I haven't been buying a ton anyway.

I can't get behind 5POA (sorry Jayson).  While I won't **** on those who are having fun, to me why would I buy a Hoth Han when I have a vastly superior one (two) of that same character?  Now, if they offered me that same Hoth Han I have now, with hip articulation (IE: Brown coat SA with hip articulation), I'd buy THAT.  And I'd pay handsomely for it too.

That's me though... 

Also, if I were to buy 6" figures at all, I'd buy the Japanese ones.  They're vastly superior, so why not?  Pay the extra, and be happier.  Piss on Hasbro's $20 meh.  But I'm still refusing to jump scales, no matter how obvious Hasbro makes it that they want me to jump scales.

The vehicles they're putting out are really tripe too.  That AT-DP was disappointing on every level.  The TIE was ok, passable, so I didn't mind it but won't be buying more of it.  I'm not expecting suddenly to think the vehicles for TFA will be back to the old quality.  Glad I stocked up heavy on Snowspeeders this year when I could.  :-X

It's just a waiting game, but no matter the outcome, I won't be freaking out angry.  Hasbro is hogtied to a degree with China...  They're also hogtied with the market as it stands because, let's face it, 10 years removed from a Star Wars film, collectors aren't the force they used to be.

But FFS can't they just say something?  Just about some plans so we can plan accordingly?  Whatever.  But folks better remember, Darryl was a pretty open guy...  Some of the same people who bitched about him, put him down...  Dude didn't pussyfoot around topics this much.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: indysolo007 on April 23, 2015, 06:03 PM
I think I would be done as well if they are exclusive 5POA figures. I feel as though these are such a regression. To date I've only purchased a Jedi Temple Guard, Gree and ATDP driver from that line and have no interest in the rest. I would probably still buy any released vehicles which would sit sadly unmanned.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on April 23, 2015, 08:28 PM
I really wish Hasbro would have had the balls to just come out at Celebration and tell us one way or the other for sure - is the 3.75" collector line DEAD or ALIVE?  Every non-answer they offer up just feeds the speculation that the only reason they are not talking about 3.75" is that there is nothing good to tell us...

I hope for the best (SA 3.75" figures for TFA and beyond), but with the lack of information, vague Hasbro answers, mismanagement, and lack of product some part of me wonders if Disney decided to take things into their hands and are doing the 4" figures themselves.  But that would be late in the game for Disney to take over and get figures out in time for the movie.  I mean, we know there are going to be Hasbro 6" TFA figures since they were leaked, but nothing about 3.75". 

I think Hasbro makes things confusing for collectors because in some of the interviews I've read, it seems that Hasbro uses TBS synonymously with 6" figures, even if the question is geared toward 3.75" figures.  It seems like the skirt the 3.75" answer and say things are great for the TBS 6" line, etc.

But I think Hasbro will handle 3.75" figures for TFA like the past two live-action movies.  Saga and RotS started off with minimal articulation and action features and I expect that will be the status quo for the TFA line.  After a few waves, we'll start getting figures with more articulation.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 23, 2015, 09:01 PM
Given the state of things, I'm not against seeing what Disney would do with it.  Their Star Tours Starspeeder set is a work of art, but it's also getting up there in years.  Hasbro did works of art at one time too, after all.

I love the BAD they do, but that's Hasbro stuff...  Would Disney take over 4"?  I don't even know that they could, as Hasbro paid to do it.  Forget when the contract is up though?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on April 23, 2015, 10:48 PM
I love the BAD they do, but that's Hasbro stuff...  Would Disney take over 4"?  I don't even know that they could, as Hasbro paid to do it.  Forget when the contract is up though?

I'm by no means a business lawyer, but I wonder if Disney inherited the contract Hasbro had when they bought LFL as is, or if there is an exit/performance clause (maybe it originally had one)?  Or perhaps Disney could buy it off Hasbro (or maybe just buy Hasbro in whole)?

I doubt this is the case (Disney taking over) but it still frustrating to get a non-committal answer to something so simple as "Will we get still SA SW figures in the near future and beyond?"  It doesn't infringe on any movie spoilers or anything like that which would fit under the "We can't discuss TFA at the moment."  Instead we get "We can't talk about 2015 and beyond," so it sounds like there is a possible shift coming up and Hasbro is keeping tight lips anymore (maybe due to the backlash from the perceived misunderstanding they got about the lack of female figures) so they are covering their behinds.  I mean, saying "we are (no longer) going to continue producing super-articulated figures for the fans/collectors " is all they have to say and we know.  I guess in the end, we will know if there will be 3.75" SA figures when they let us know.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 23, 2015, 11:10 PM
Generally in acquisitions you inherit all existing contracts.  They can't just say, "We don't like you and don't want to work with you anymore".  At best they could offer a buy-out but Hasbro wouldn't be inclined to do that I feel sure.

That's not to even say Disney is disappointed in Hasbro.  Collectors are, Disney may not be.  They have a decent working relationship as-is, with the BAD stuff and all.

Disney also may not be inclined to tackle that kind of a business either...  For all the Hasbro bashing, running a property that big isn't like running a line for Game of Thrones or something.  Disney dabbles in toys, but do they have the capacities Hasbro does?  The partnerships?  I dunno.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2015, 10:32 AM
It seems like the skirt the 3.75" answer and say things are great for the TBS 6" line, etc.

Yeah, just look at the message from Hasbro at SWCA:

Mission Series -
"Have you seen our great new Ahsoka and Vader?  They're coming Fall 2015! Yay!!!"

Black Series 6" -
"Did you see the Fall 2015 sample package?!  And the prototype 6" Ahsoka coming in 2016!  Black Series is awesome! Yay!!!"

Black Series 3.75" -
"We cannot comment on plans for Fall 2015"

Nothing suspicious there at all... :P


I'm just really surprised that we haven't seen something (anything) for the 3.75" Fall line at this point.  If you believe the reports, this stuff is going to hit Labor Day weekend.  That's less than 5 months from now.  For Revenge of the Sith, we saw Hasbro's card back in JULY 2004, nearly 9 months before the launch.  They could have thrown us that bone and put a sample cardback in the booth, but nope.  Nothing.  :-\
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Phrubruh on April 24, 2015, 10:38 AM
Yeah, just look at the message from Hasbro at SWCA:

Mission Series -
"Have you seen our great new Ahsoka and Vader?  They're coming Fall 2015! Yay!!!" - Nope and odds are I will never will see it at retail.

Black Series 6" -
"Did you see the Fall 2015 sample package?!  And the prototype 6" Ahsoka coming in 2016!  Black Series is awesome! Yay!!!" - Nope, never will see it at retail either.

Black Series 3.75" -
"We cannot comment on plans for Fall 2015" - I'll be sleeping when you do TRU Midnight Madness.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Diddly on April 24, 2015, 02:24 PM
Also, if I were to buy 6" figures at all, I'd buy the Japanese ones.  They're vastly superior, so why not?  Pay the extra, and be happier.  Piss on Hasbro's $20 meh.  But I'm still refusing to jump scales, no matter how obvious Hasbro makes it that they want me to jump scales.

Yeah, the Japanese figures rock. I posted some comparison shots of the Revoltech 6 Inch Stormtrooper and the Black Series 6 Inch Stormtrooper (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=23550.msg579316#msg579316) a while back, and did anyone else see Jayson's comparison of the Revoltech and Black Series R2-D2? (https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11149409_10152928238436799_2306962794263393352_n.jpg?oh=a27b5bd09f9a100a7e2bfc270e029612&oe=55CF2D35) Pretty sad. I still buy some Hasbro 6 inch stuff that we probably won't get for a while from Japan, but if we do, it's gone to a storage bin with old POTF2 stuff.

I dunno, I figure that I have the extra cash to spend, and if Hasbro doesn't want it, I'll gladly give it to one of the other companies that does.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 25, 2015, 03:28 PM
I wonder how many people's heads would have exploded in internet rage if Hasbro had decided to make their 6" figs the quality of the Japanese version and thus charged the same price.

I wonder why Hasbro's 12" stuff wasn't as good as Sideshow?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 25, 2015, 05:52 PM
Theoretically it's as complex for the most part but lacks a lot of the detail.  Japanese companies seem to just have a handle on that.  I'm assuming production numbers greatly vary between them, and that the Japan stuff is probably higher quality materials too.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 25, 2015, 08:00 PM
I just can't see the 4" line dying after nearly 40 years.

If Hasbro doesn't want to do them anymore, perhaps someone else will.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2015, 11:11 PM
I wonder how many people's heads would have exploded in internet rage if Hasbro had decided to make their 6" figs the quality of the Japanese version and thus charged the same price.

I wonder why Hasbro's 12" stuff wasn't as good as Sideshow?

I can't even imagine... 

I agree the Japanese stuff is far superior... but there's a severe lack of diversity that comes with that too.  Hasbro has a ton of 6" figures and all the Japanese guys have Vader, Stormtrooper, and maybe a couple others from the high popularity pool (Fett, Maul, R2, 3PO, etc).

But yeah, Nick - the Sideshow thing is a good comparison.  Hasbro isn't looking to be Tamashii/Medicom/Kaiyodo for 6" or Sideshow for 12".  They are looking for that happy middle ground "toy".


I just can't see the 4" line dying after nearly 40 years.

I think all those early worries of NO 4" line are gone at this point.  We already know there is a 4" line coming for Ep7 thanks to Target's leaked DPCI. Hasbro has said repeatedly that they have no interest in killing Star Wars 4" figures.

Whether they have an interest in killing collector 4" figures though... that seems to be where people disagree.  Lots of folks are convinced Hasbro is trying to kill collector 4" to move everyone to 6" stuff leaving dirt cheap to produce 5POA 4" for kids.

I'm hopeful a collector 4" line continues... but who knows.  With Hasbro refusing to say anything it's opening the door to lots of rumor and speculation.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 26, 2015, 02:00 AM
I think a collector 4" line is a license to print money, if Hasbro had paid attention in distribution class.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 27, 2015, 12:55 AM
I almost think the limited pool of the Japanese stuff may even be more of a draw for me, if I were to delve into 6" scaled stuff at all.  I'd almost prefer that than the temptation of a more elaborate line like Hasbro's going to churn out.  Still, you never know how obscure some of the stuff could get from Japan.  So far it's all been safe bets though, from any of it.  It's still so new.

I like the Hasbro stuff, actually, and have been tempted at times.  It's got flaws, but overall I think it's got some nice stuff even with the "cellulite".  I actually bought my first (and only) 6" figure they make tonight, as I happened upon a Bossk at a Wal-Mart.  Since I like  all things Bossk, I caved.  He's got some ugliness like the knee pins, and the mismatched yellow, but otherwise he's pretty neat.

But if I were to add a whole 1/12 collection, I'd prefer to go the higher end route ultimately.  And the pics seem to imply the two don't jive real well scale-wise either so I'd not want to mix them either.  I think if that were possible I'd be even more tempted, actually.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on April 30, 2015, 06:15 PM
I'm not prepared to go into full-on Chicken Little mode just yet.  The leaked images of the TFA 6" figures looked promising.  But the 5 poa figures are definitely a valid reason for some skepticism about the 3.75" figure line. 

I know that a lot of people thought that Celebration Anaheim would be the big reveal for the TFA toy line.  But that event was some 8 months out from the release of the film.  Back in the PT days we got line reveals at Toy Fair.  And the timeline there was
-February/Toy Fair reveal
-April toy line release
-May theatrical release of the film

Given the December release of the film, I think we're probably looking at a TFA line reveal either at SDCC or a later special event.  And based on past history, I think we could be looking at an October release.  And that's still 5 months away.  All in all, we seem to be in thoroughly uncharted territory.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt on April 30, 2015, 09:11 PM
Given the December release of the film, I think we're probably looking at a TFA line reveal either at SDCC or a later special event.  And based on past history, I think we could be looking at an October release.  And that's still 5 months away.  All in all, we seem to be in thoroughly uncharted territory.

This has probably been mentioned here somewhere already, but there are some books with tie-ins to The Force Awakens set for release on Friday, September 4. Maybe that's the day the toys will launch as well? If so, an official unveiling at SDCC seems like a pretty safe bet, but I'm guessing we'll see more leaked images out of the Far East before then, anyway.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Phrubruh on May 1, 2015, 09:06 AM
Disney's D23 convention happens in late August. I'm pretty sure Hasbro will be there with bells on.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2015, 09:52 AM
This has probably been mentioned here somewhere already, but there are some books with tie-ins to The Force Awakens set for release on Friday, September 4. Maybe that's the day the toys will launch as well?

Yeah, Labor Day weekend was mentioned a number of times at UK Toy Fair for the Ep7 LEGO sets as well, so it seems pretty likely that's the target for the floodgates to open for everything.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on May 3, 2015, 09:01 PM
there are some books with tie-ins to The Force Awakens set for release on Friday, September 4. Maybe that's the day the toys will launch as well?
Yeah, Labor Day weekend was mentioned a number of times at UK Toy Fair for the Ep7 LEGO sets as well, so it seems pretty likely that's the target for the floodgates to open for everything.

So, yeah - It's September 4th, officially (http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-force-awakens-products-to-arrive-on-force-friday-september-4).
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 3, 2015, 09:22 PM
So that's when it's hitting the streets.  Should be a good preview at SDCC.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Diddly on May 3, 2015, 10:05 PM
Holy crap, that is a HUGE window between the product launch and the movie release. And all I'm really interested in so far is the Aftermath book.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 4, 2015, 11:02 AM
It is a huge window, but think about it, the product was originally scheduled to be out already since episode 7's initial release date was this month. It's all sitting around somewhere ready to go.
Title: The Force Awakens 6" Figure Rumors (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on June 17, 2015, 09:22 PM
Rumored List of TFA Toys Leaked (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15717)

Looks like we're getting a Black Series Starfighter at the low price of $170...
Title: Re: The Force Awakens 6" Figure Rumors (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 17, 2015, 09:59 PM
It was nice of JTA to mention that the entire list is coded in an effort to prevent spoilers.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on June 27, 2015, 04:25 PM
I was somewhat dismayed by something at my local TRU store yesterday.  There was plenty of REBELS/SAGA LEGENDS stock.  Both the Mission Series and single basic figures were there.  And there was also some TBS 6" stock on hand.  But with the current way the stock is merchandised there was not even a SINGLE PEG or FIGURE for the TBS 3.75" basic figure line.  I know that there has been some rumor-mongering going around that the collector oriented 3.75" basic figure lines days are numbered.  Signs like this are making me increasingly concerned that this might be on the verge of happening.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 27, 2015, 04:41 PM
I would hope that after nearly 40 years, they wouldn't give up on the 3.75" line.  But if they do, it's been a good run....it's just a shame that there won't be any TFA figures in my collection.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2015, 04:49 PM
I agree Matt.  I will custom up some but if there's not a quality line, it will have been a nice run but ending with a feelin that it sort of got pissed away at the end.  5poa won't cut it for anything but fodder to make better figures. 

At the same time, customs will be my collecting then, and I have tons of other fun things to spend on. :)

Bittersweet ending though if it pans out that way.  Still, I think it may live on even as exclusives maybe.  I have a little hope left.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 27, 2015, 07:15 PM
Isn't it kind of funny how we were happy with 5 POA up until the SA Clone in the Saga line?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2015, 08:17 PM
I can 100% attest that I wasn't haha.  I always wanted articulation. :)
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: GrandMoffNick on June 27, 2015, 09:36 PM
I will be disappointed with the de-evolution of the figures if that's where we go but I will NEVER be done buying. Less collecting competition I guess.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 27, 2015, 10:18 PM
I can 100% attest that I wasn't haha.  I always wanted articulation. :)

I was glad that they were able to give us good articulation along with good sculpts, but did not go the route of the vintage GI Joe 4" figures.  The metal elbow joints would never have been good in Star Wars.

I will be disappointed with the de-evolution of the figures if that's where we go but I will NEVER be done buying. Less collecting competition I guess.

I like your look at it, Nick, but it would be too much of a step back for me.  I'll just be buying Star Wars toys for my sons if they de-evolve the 4" figures like that.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on June 27, 2015, 10:20 PM
B&M aren't really stocking those and it doesn't pay to try to luck out on 1 figure (or 4 of the same character) on the pegs at Targets.  TRU hasn't been restocking 3.75" stuff  lately in my area.  6" has been better at Wal-Mart, but they don't have 3.75" at all.  In regards to MS/SL/Rebels, the pegs are stocked but product isn't moving.  That's why I bought the last few TBS figures of the line online before TFA stuff hits.  I might never find it in store... I had more faith in finding the 6" Boushh and Iggy in the stores but when Amazon had them for $16, I pulled the trigger.

I want better articulated figures... I guess I was spoiled for the past 10+ years.  To see the route of going back to 5 PoA could possibly be the future, then I'm out.  Even 5 points was supposed to make it cheaper for everyone, but the prices are getting up to where TBS figures were a year ago. *shrugs*  So they aren't really a deal in my opinion if I were interested.  Plus, if I wanted 5 PoA, I'd just pull out the vintage Kenner figures.  I guess I hope that Hasbro continues to put out wanted super-articulated figures and not just the usual rehashes of Vader, Fett, and Obi-Wan.  Bring on the Tonnikas, Tvizzzit and other cantina denizens and Jabba's Palace goons and Imperial Dignitaries. 

That said, I think I'm refraining from TFA figures.  Space issues is one thing, money is another... plus, I'm thinking that these are going to be Disney's World of Star Wars now and not necessarily Lucas'.  I may pick up a couple if the figure is cool looking, and as long as there's more than 5 points of articulation to them.  But I have never bought something Star Wars just because it's got the logo on it.

Less collecting competition I guess.

True.  But you'd have to have Jeff, Jayson, Dave, Justin and some other guys that live in the Twin Cities give up collecting and I don't see that happening with them.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on June 27, 2015, 10:52 PM
I was lucky enough to find the last wave of TBS figures at my TRU by chance when they had just stocked them. I grabbed the Clone Wars inspired figs but left the rest. 2 days later they were all gone, and it was back to R5 and Yoda repping the pegs. I think in some areas they just move so quickly it seems as if they have no presence at all.

Why don't stores order more figures when they sell that quickly though? That I do not comprehend.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2015, 01:33 PM
Yeah I doubt I quit completely...  Like I said, customizing would overtake collecting as my primary gig, and I'd just enjoy making 5POA better or improving a vehicle.  I would definitely buy more acid rain I want without hesitating at the price though.

I didn't want Joe levels of articulation either Matt.  I don't like even the modern Joe articulation on Star Wars figs now.  I felt really that 2007 was the ideal levels and styles.  Some figures get less than others and some get more and for the most part it made sense.  I miss 2007 routinely as a collector.

At the same time though, hasbro had a deep pool then too.  Different era, less resculpts.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 21, 2015, 04:28 PM
Well, SDCC showed us nothing, so now we depend on rumors and leaks for our TFA news. 

Let's kick the TFA section off with a rumor report from Rebelscum (http://):

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The mission Series two packs in Hasbro's The Force Awakens collection will include build-a-weapon pieces. Collectors that purchase all three sets in the Jungle Mission, Desert Mission, Space Mission, and Snow Mission waves will be able to create larger weapons (presumably) seen in the upcoming feature film. All these new Mission Series two packs are expected to hit the shelves on September 4th as part of the Force Friday event.

So, is the "build-a-weapon" thing the real reason for the Mission Series price hike to $15?  Or just a side benefit to ease the inevitable price hike complaints?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2015, 10:54 AM
Looks like that RS rumor report yesterday was pulled from a UK catalog (http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/07/toy-catalogue-teases-new-star-wars-the-force-awakens-figures.html).

Maybe I'm reading it different... but based on the text in the catalog, these sound like single figures and not 2-packs?

"Each 5-point articulated 10cm figure comes with an accessory and an extra weapon.  Collect all three figures from the jungle, space, snow, or desert missions to create a unique build-a-weapon"

429/4513 – Snow And Desert
445/5486 – Jungle And Space


Thanks again Hasbro for clearing this all up for us at SDCC.  #NOT   :-\
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2015, 09:56 PM
Ugh, the prospect of cool "accessory" type weapons being included now as a BAD type thing with figures I don't want...  Hmmm.  Just the thought kind of has me intrigued and sad at the same time.  I love things like the Radar Laser Cannon but dread buying it piecemeal with 5 POA figures. 

Have to see them to be sure what way I'm doing with this stuff, but I'm intrigued at least.

Again...  Thanks Hasbro, for giving us not even the most remote of clues to know what's even going on.  It'll be very weird on 9/4.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2015, 10:10 PM
Dribs and drabs of info like this are definitely fodder for some conversation and plenty of speculation.  The 5 POA info is not unexpected.  I think that we saw that coming.

I just wonder when or how info about the line is going to be publicized.  Is Hasbro going to come up with some collector media event some time late next month?  Are they going to use  Hasbro Pulse for the release?  Or are they maybe going to go through USA Today?  That's been a pretty regular source of articles about Hasbro releases at Toy Fair.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2015, 11:01 PM
I'd think, if anything, Pulse...  Beyond that, leaks. 

There could be some large media outlet bones thrown around too, but I think Pulse's timing puts it as the way they intend to spotlight anything they MAY leak out.  Otherwise it'll all be just random leaks lists and what we see on 9/4.

Pulse seems coincidentally timed though.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on July 22, 2015, 11:36 PM
Listening to a few of the SDCC interviews around the web, it seemed pretty clear from Jeff Labovitz at least Force Friday will be when we see this stuff first. We know it won't be and Hasbro's marketing team knows that, but that seems to be the idea. You have to admire the commitment to this strategy at least, especially in the era we live in. As I've said, I'd like to go in blind, but that's impossible and before too long here we're going to have very concrete ideas of what will and won't be out 9/4.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2015, 02:13 AM
Virex hit me up on Twitter that he listened to FlyGuy's interview with Topps, and it was pretty similar to Hasbro... Whole lot of "we can't discuss that" type stuff, and it smacks more and more of Disney is to blame for all this.

I don't get WHY they'd want to keep you in the dark on everything though...  Overly protective?

It's interesting to see things handled this way.  More than ever really.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2015, 10:53 AM
It's an odd thing. On one hand, you have complete radio silence on it, and then on the other hand, you have a product rollout 3 months in advance of the movie. Which actually for SW is unheard of and I think more of a question mark than anything else. In every other case it's been weeks or maybe a month before the movie. We've heard a little bit about one wave until December - really? Potential log jam if the stuff doesn't move or there's too much of it. Then again I thought I saw some quotes yesterday from the earnings report meeting that indicated we'll see a trickle of stuff to the movie and beyond.

One thought I had - Hasbro has been very cagey about SA 3.75 to this point, adamant they can't talk about 9/4 though they are happy to discuss 6 inch and Rebels (i.e. 5 POA). We know from their talk about Ceremony Leia that SA 3.75 is continuing in some fashion. There's been some chatter about that line as an exclusive. The only real way forward for this segment that I see, that ties into the nostalgia for the film and justifies what I think is going to be a terrible price point is Vintage. I think it's very possible that we see Vintage carded clamshell cased SA figures from this movie, maybe at TRU, maybe somewhere else.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt on July 23, 2015, 11:11 AM
Still Virex after all these years
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2015, 11:23 AM
I think it's very possible that we see Vintage carded clamshell cased SA figures from this movie, maybe at TRU, maybe somewhere else.

That has been my guess too...

I'm going to guess:
$7 - 3.75" 5POA line
$15 - 3.75" premium collector line (like VOTC was back in 2004).  Maybe clamshells, maybe on vintage-style cards, maybe even exclusive.

I think we'll get what we want... but I think we're going to pay for it as well.

I still think that's where a 3.75" SA line ends up.  We'll see...  a return to the Kenner card style would be a nice PR win for Hasbro.  People would still complain about the price, but they'll buy them all because of the cards anyway. :P
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2015, 03:21 PM
I personally think the build-a-weapon thing is cool and am looking forward to it.  If Hasbro executes this like the did with build-a-droid I'm all for it.  They did a good job of having the assortments be all new figures so you didn't have to buy a repack just to get the one droid piece you needed.

I'm glad they're looking at a new spin on an old concept as well.  I would like BAD again, but we've had that a bunch of times and BAW sounds cool, at least for a limited time.

On the $15 premium line - I really hope they don't add extra "crap" just to justify the cost.  I really don't like clamshells being included.  I would dig extra accessories if that gets them to the right price point / value, but a clamshell is just a waste of my money. 
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2015, 06:27 PM
Matt is too vague around these parts. :)
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt on July 23, 2015, 07:28 PM
I know.

Maybe I should change it back to Bill Cosby?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2015, 09:28 PM
I can't think of any reason why not?  His comedy is timeless.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2015, 02:18 PM
Was talking to a casual collector friend last night and he reminded me about the handy shopping guide Hasbro made for us in 2008 for the CW Movie Midnight Madness launch (http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars//StarWars2008LAUNCHLINEUP.pdf).  He asked me if Hasbro had made one for 9/4 yet and I let him know about Disney and the wall of silence we've got this time. 

I had forgotten all about that Hasbro PDF...  maybe Hasbro will surprise us and get us something like that via Hasbro Pulse closer to 9/4?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jayson on July 24, 2015, 04:41 PM
Was talking to a casual collector friend last night and he reminded me about the handy shopping guide Hasbro made for us in 2008 for the CW Movie Midnight Madness launch (http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars//StarWars2008LAUNCHLINEUP.pdf).  He asked me if Hasbro had made one for 9/4 yet and I let him know about Disney and the wall of silence we've got this time. 

I had forgotten all about that Hasbro PDF...  maybe Hasbro will surprise us and get us something like that via Hasbro Pulse closer to 9/4?

God, I forgot all about that thing. I probably still have the one printed somewhere all marked up.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JediJman on August 4, 2015, 02:01 PM
Not sure if this is new news, but was news to me.  Per the PR Newswire (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/toysrus-to-launch-new-star-wars-saga-products-with-midnight-opening-events-worldwide-300122884.html) ALL TRU STORES will open at midnight on the 4th for Force Friday.  That's good news for those of us in MN now that Bloomington is shut down.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Diddly on August 5, 2015, 12:57 AM
JTA Report - All TFA 3.75 inch figures will be 5POA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15911/#details)

If true, this saves me a TON of cash.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2015, 02:04 AM
I kinda figured that, for the TFA figures...  right?

I mean do you want a 4" articulated Ren and a 4" non-articulated Ren on the pegs together? 

What I'm curious about is non-TFA...  Which is happening.  :-*
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Phrubruh on August 5, 2015, 09:29 AM
Weren't the Episode 1 figures all 5 POS? We really didn't see articulated stuff until AOTC. The last lines of that post from JTA remind me how Episode 1 stuff was everywhere and then eventually sold at huge discounts to get rid of it. Could we be seeing a giant feast of stuff only to be followed by years of famine because the stores are too scare to buy Star Wars stuff again?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 5, 2015, 09:29 AM
JTA Report - All TFA 3.75 inch figures will be 5POA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15911/#details)

I mean do you want a 4" articulated Ren and a 4" non-articulated Ren on the pegs together? 

Just like Clone Wars.  Give us animated style that 'no one' wanted (I know, I know - some folks did want them) but lots of people bought anyway and then later, give people realistic versions and sell them again with much collector fanfare. 

They did the same thing with Ep1, Ep2, Ep3, etc.  Release limited articulation figures that everyone will buy in droves (Jedi Duel Ep1 Darth Mail, "saber-in-arm" Ep2 Anakin, Jedi Kick Ep3 Obi-Wan) and then after a while start releasing better versions to get you to rebuy the same characters over and over.

This should not be a surprise when you look at the history of the line, but we're all acting like we can't believe this is happening.  Collectors are dumb, I guess.  :P
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on August 5, 2015, 09:56 AM
Weren't the Episode 1 figures all 5 POS? We really didn't see articulated stuff until AOTC. The last lines of that post from JTA remind me how Episode 1 stuff was everywhere and then eventually sold at huge discounts to get rid of it. Could we be seeing a giant feast of stuff only to be followed by years of famine because the stores are too scare to buy Star Wars stuff again?

Episode I figures like the Jedi and Darth Maul had about 6 POA when that line came out.  And yes, articulation was definitely minimal at that time.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on August 5, 2015, 10:48 AM
The hysteria over there at JTA and elsewhere (as has been noted before) has become a phenomenon on to itself. NOTHING we know today is any different than we knew months ago - there would be 5 POA figures. There would be 6 inch. There would be mission series.  All we don't know is the exact fate of SA figures - which this report still doesn't preclude. The only drop in articulation has been in this argument by some who feel they are entitled to a certain standard of plastic toys and the stones they throw at anyone who says they'd be ok with something else. You can lob stones and say you're above it (speaking in the royal 'we' which - I'll just keep moving) - but perspective in life is a great thing. People disagree. They're toys.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on August 5, 2015, 11:42 AM
I've said this but it bears repeating.  I think that the quality of the sculpting of figures in the 5 POA Saga Legends line has been surprisingly good.  Now am I enthusiastic about the level of articulation?  Not really.  And in this respect I've voted with my dollars by not buying figures in that line that have been made before with superior levels of articulation.  I don't feel the need to be a completist in this regard because I think that the 5 POA Saga Legends line was a vehicle to get previously released characters back on the market at a lower cost to both Hasbro and potential new customers.

As for new characters in the 5 POA format?  Well, if that's the only way they're going to be offered, then that's what I'll buy.  I bought in with the Jedi Temple Guards because they were new characters that had never been made before.  And from a strategic business standpoint I think it is far less risky for Hasbro and Disney to take on THE FORCE AWAKENS with a figure line that costs them significantly less to produce and market.  Perhaps with the new movies the action figure business will rebound?  We just don't know yet.  But I think Hasbro is very much mindful of the disastrous, overly confident sales projections that were made going into the Prequel Trilogy back in 1999.  It took Hasbro and retailers a good 18 - 24 months to rebound from that EPISODE I merchandise glut.  But if sales are good?  Then perhaps that will be reason enough to reintroduce a collector focused 3.75" figure line.  I also have a sneaking suspicion that in 2017 we're going to see the Vintage Collection return with premium articulation figures, but that depends greatly on how the current movie lines are going to perform at retail.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Phrubruh on August 5, 2015, 12:29 PM
I just worry that retailers will be left with a line that is massively over produced and never restock again even after discounting the stuff at a loss. Greed is the factor here. If retail buys too much we may be stuck with old stock for a very long time and miss future waves. It's 1999 all over again.

Of course you know everyone and their grandma will be stock piling stuff in their attics right next to their worthless Episode 1 stuff.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 5, 2015, 04:25 PM
Weren't the Episode 1 figures all 5 POS? We really didn't see articulated stuff until AOTC.

Pretty much.  There were some figures here and there (such as Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and Maul in wave 1, as Nick mentioned, along with some others) at various points that had additional articulations, but most of the Episode I and 1999/2000 POTF2 stuff stayed pretty close to the 6 POA standard.  I think that the most highly articulated figure around that time was either the CommTech Han Solo or the CT Stormtrooper, actually, and both have some pretty wonky poses mixed in with said articulation.

The first real SA figure that I remember (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) was the AOTC/Phase II Clone Trooper, which was released on a 2003 Clone Wars card.  The Durge figure from the CW Deluxe Speeder Bike was basically an SA figure, too.  Even after that, SA wasn't even really a standard thing, and the next real SA figures were the ROTS #41 Clone Trooper and the ROTS Pilot Obi-Wan figure (both of which have been thoroughly milked ever since).  I don't think SA became the "standard" for the regular SW line until the 2007 30AC line, at least as far as I can remember. 

Personally, I'll be sad and/or saving a lot of money if things go back to 5 POA across the board for TFA, but it honestly wouldn't shock me at this point, and I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it.  I'm still undecided on whether or not I'm going to go out to TRU at midnight on 9/4, more out of curiosity than anything else (he says right before he spends an unplanned 200 bucks on a 6" TIE Fighter).  :D
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2015, 09:15 PM
99 was the sort of first time articulation was starting to jump from the 6POA stuff.  Commtech era saw some extra points.  Usually a figure with just elbows/wrists, or just knees and maybe a single elbow. 

It's cool looking back to think of that stuff now.

AOTC saw some horridly underarticulated stuff.  5 would've been generous.

To me, this pales in comparison to '02 in that regard.  And then when '02 was moving into '03, there were some passable figures and some better than passable (I still buy Dodonna/Antilles if I see them for a fair price).  Then again I still buy ASP-7's like theyr'e going out of style.  And even POTF2 2-1B's too.  And the Commtech Gonk...  Not everything lacking articulation is junk to me. 

Though I will say, the price has to be right on that stuff to me, but you've also got to realize costs to manufacture in China are vastly different now than they were then.  And don't count on Hasbro shifting manufacturing to India, Vietnam, or another country with the means/tech to do complex plastics mold work, and whose socio-economic progress is behind that of China.  That's not something Hasbro can do on a whim obviously.

ANyway though, I still like collecting when it comes up.  I usually find something I enjoy a lot.  That Han Carbonite has been a blast to me.  Perfect?  No.  But fun. :)  And I am quite sure Hasbro isn't folding up shop on articulation completely yet as well.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2015, 11:06 AM
Just looking through social media today at all the things that leaked the past two days - Funko POP!s, board games, etc...  sure seems like we're going to be seeing a lot of Stormtrooper, Kylo and Phasma on 9/4.  :P

Lots and lots and lots of leaks so far with Kylo, Stormtroopers, Phasma, Rey, Finn, BB8, Chewbacca, 3PO - but nothing for Luke, Leia, and Han.  Guess all the rumors that the big three would be held back are most likely coming to fruition?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 11, 2015, 04:49 PM
And Snoke! Nothing on Snoke either...they do a good job keeping the cgi stuff under wraps.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 14, 2015, 04:53 PM
So, going back to the original RS rumor report (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_The_Force_Awakens_Product_Rundown_161773.asp)...

This was confirmed at SDCC:
- SW E7 3.75" Figure Two Pack Assortment [aka Star Wars Universe; pka Mission Series] ($14.99)

These 3.75" related things have leaked out the past two days:
- SW E7 3.75" Jungle / Space Figure Assortment ($7.99)
- SW E7 3.75" Snow / Desert Figure Assortment ($7.99)
- SW E7 3.75" In Armor Figure Assortment (TBD, rumor $9.99)
- SW E7 Class I Vehicle Assortment (TBD, rumor $19.99)
- SW E7 Class I Deluxe Vehicle Assortment (TBD, rumor $24.99)

So that leaves these 3.75" related things yet to be revealed/confirmed/debunked:
- SW E7 3.75" Basic Figure Assortment (TBD, rumor $6.99)
- SW E7 Class II Vehicle Assortment (TBD, rumor $29.99)
- SW E7 Class II Deluxe Vehicle Assortment (TBD, rumor $49.99)
- SW E7 Starfighter Vehicle (TBD, rumor $49.99)
- SW E7 3.75" Hero Vehicle (TBD, rumor $129.99)


Edit #1 - filled in some rumored pricing from the May 11th RS Rumor Report (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Force_Awakens_Lines_Appear_In_Toys_R_Us_Computer_164214.asp)


Edit #2 - looking at this list again and seeing the case-pack boxes that are turning up on social media, I'm thinking either the RS report has some store excluives mixed in there or something got doubled up.  Some places are reporting the Snowspeeder as a "Class I Deluxe" ($24.99) others are calling it the Class II vehicles assortment ($29.99) because of the text on the case pack box.  Hmmm... 
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 20, 2015, 01:36 AM
No pics with this story so it'll go here for now...

WARNING FOR THE ULTRA SENSITIVE - SPOILER CHARACTER/TOY NAMES TO FOLLOW...

Now that that's out of the way - Hasbro Line Details? (http://makingstarwars.net/2015/08/makingstarwars-nets-star-wars-the-force-awakens-hasbro-line-details/)

Nerf firing Falcon?  Bummed it's not an updated-with-new-radar-dish BMF, but I'll probably still pick one up... though for $120 it better be pretty nice.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 20, 2015, 08:36 AM
Cool, I got like 3 new names out of that.

The NERF thing does not sound like something that should be a part of the SW 4" toy universe, but I am an old school purist I guess.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 20, 2015, 04:57 PM
Anyone catch the Hasbro toy catalog images (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153203252236799&id=202559486798) that leaked earlier today? They didn't last long thanks to Hasbro's quick reaction time...
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on August 20, 2015, 06:53 PM
Anyone catch the Hasbro toy catalog images (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153203252236799&id=202559486798) that leaked earlier today? They didn't last long thanks to Hasbro's quick reaction time...

Yeah, but they can be found (for now) on a certain fan site's facebook page.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 20, 2015, 08:59 PM
Anyone catch the Hasbro toy catalog images (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153203252236799&id=202559486798) that leaked earlier today? They didn't last long thanks to Hasbro's quick reaction time...

Yeah, but they can be found (for now) on a certain fan site's facebook page.

I need to see these...where?!?  ???
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 20, 2015, 09:25 PM
They're gone ATM...

I imagine everyone would just be complaining.

I liked some I saw, not some other stuff.  I'm basically where I was.  I just have a more clear sense how downsized the 2 Landspeeders are though. And Reys Speeder is AWESOME looking IMO.

Little disappointed to see my only crack at Chopper will be in a friggin 2 pack too.  :(
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 20, 2015, 09:45 PM
Ok, I saw the full catalog, you can't get rid of anything on the Internet thank God.

Really happy to see there will be Rebels stuff for me to buy. Just no single carded figures apparently. cool to see the Y-Wing Scout Bomber in OT colors.

I guess all that talk about there being 9 new 6" figures was just speculation?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on August 20, 2015, 10:05 PM
I think there are still some unanswered questions. Set aside SA figures which I think are destined for exclusives somewhere.

Basic Figures: Old Man Rex and Inquisitor 2.0 we've seen but aren't accounted for, so they're on deck for a wave 2 that may or may not land on Force Friday. That would put them among presumably another dozen figures, some of which MSW alluded to yesterday. The lack of an old man Han Solo to buy is of all the 'spoiler' stuff strange. Lego is getting one 9/4. I mean, the Falcon doesn't even come with him, and that's kind of... this is the big Christmas toy one assumes.

Mission Series: More a comment - can't believe the sheer number of repacks here. In particular the PT retreads. Chopper, sure. Zeb? He went down swinging before Target and Wal-Mart did their resets. One thing I was looking forward to with the new movie push was just plain and simple 'new.' And by and large honestly we haven't seen much of it yet. There is a a cap on what the toys can reveal due to the decision to launch so far in advance of the movie; there's an enormous amount of repetition in the toys themselves; the toys are repetitious because it's almost all OT callbacks (X-Wings, TIES, oh my.)

Black Series Deluxe: we've seen DCPI's for these ($39.99 price point) but no sign in the catalog.

Hero Mashers: Also MIA.

Galactic Heroes: Ditto.

Exclusives: No clue.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Scockery on August 21, 2015, 12:03 AM
Ok, I saw the full catalog, you can't get rid of anything on the Internet thank God.

Really happy to see there will be Rebels stuff for me to buy. Just no single carded figures apparently. cool to see the Y-Wing Scout Bomber in OT colors.

I guess all that talk about there being 9 new 6" figures was just speculation?

Don't assume everything is in the catalog. I mean, the catalogs from recent years were only partial.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 21, 2015, 01:01 AM
Agreed, I think not all is in there...  I think this is also something of a "preview" of sorts too. :x
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on August 21, 2015, 10:07 AM
There are some additional press photos floating around out there and those show things that are not in the catalog.  Nor are any of the exclusives shown.  There will be more...

And, before you ask, I am not going to post them since I know I will just be asked by Hasbro to take them down. :(
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on August 21, 2015, 10:51 AM
Looking through all the pics yesterday and today, and there is some stuff I really like.  I know many will be bummed about everything being 5 POA, and the lack of a "BMF" style Falcon - and I am too - but I also sort of like how this is a "toy" line that should be fun for kids.  As my daughter and I have been looking forward to the Force Awakens (she is particularly excited about Rey), I've been telling her how I think it is so cool that this will sort of be her trilogy, the way the OT was for me.  She is very near the same age as I was growing up with Star Wars, and its kind of neat that this generation of kids will have their own Star Wars movie(s) like we did.

The toys are much the same.  I know we've moved past what we got in our vintage line, with technology and paint apps, etc., but this Force Awakens line does seem very vintage-esque in many ways.  Sure, bottom line is, a lot of the decisions are made due to cost, but it is also neat to see a line with the Falcon as the "big ticket item", and a good assortment of figures characters that are durable and ready for play.  A good assortment of vehicles and play value, and hopefully - above all else - fun.

Now, I do still sort of hope we see the more articulated figures at some point (maybe as a store exclusive as rumored), but for the basic line I think this is alright too.  As long as these figures can actually sit in their vehicles (which is the biggest sticking point to me with losing that articulation), it should be fun.   I know I'll be picking up a lot of it, and looking forward to those 6" figures as well, and I'll continue to hold out hope that we'll see some more articulated 3 3/4" versions of these characters down the road as well - or at least the big guns and troopers.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JediJman on August 21, 2015, 11:01 AM
I honestly don't have room for a second BMF, so kind of happy to not have the choice.   ;)  The catalog has some nice new stuff in it.  The figures and mini-ships remind me of the old Deluxe line, so nice to see those.  I think there's enough here to get excited about without it being overwhelming (looking at you TPM).  We have a basic set with a dozen figures, continuation of the two-packs, a few smaller ships and figures along with a couple of the larger core spaceships.  All interesting and manageable.  I was surprised to see so much titanium series and micro machines.  If I collected all that stuff I would be feeling like there's a little too much right now. 
Title: Re: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Dave on August 24, 2015, 01:32 PM
I honestly don't have room for a second BMF, so kind of happy to not have the choice.   ;)

+1

Glad to see something new done in this area.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on September 5, 2015, 11:01 AM
Wasn't sure where else to post this, but with Force Friday come and gone - and now getting more rumors and confirmation on what's coming in the next waves heading towards the end of the year, is anyone else surprised that we've seen no mention at all of Han, Luke, and Leia in any toy form?  Heck, even the other items like shirts, posters, etc. don't have any mention unless they are just classic pictures from the OT.  I thought we'd be seeing Han and Luke at least in one of the later 6" waves, but those spots seem to be filling up fast.  I understand they are keeping them under wraps to some extent, and pushing the new trio/baddie, but it would be nice to see something coming for the classic characters.  Chewie is really the only one showing up, and R2/3PO when the Mission Series starts hitting.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 5, 2015, 11:14 AM
I think they're being strategically held back in all of the marketing, toy lines included.  LFL/Disney clearly wants to push the new generation of characters.  And with the exception of that Vanity Fair cover, most of the promo images revolve around Finn, Rey, Poe Dameron, BB-8 and Kylo Ren.  That is very deliberate.  Because when you do bring in those legacy players like Harrison Ford with his bit at the end of the 2nd trailer people lost their minds.  They couldn't focus at all on the other characters, just "Chewie, we're home".
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on September 5, 2015, 01:41 PM
Very true, Nick... except for Daisy Ridley for me.  ;)
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 9, 2015, 08:21 PM
I've been catching up on some rumors and news, and I'm thinking that the Knights of Ren might make some decent fodder for figures.  The concept art is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 18, 2015, 10:41 AM
Sorry, I have no idea where else to post this:

Can we start an official basic figure release thread here like in the Black Series forum?

I am really confused on the case assortments after Wave 1. I keep seeing people posting about finding the Asty/Plank wave but no one ever bothers to mention what other figures are in that wave, which I assume is Wave 2. Is that the same wave with the Ezra and Kanan repacks?

Also saw a packaged photo of a repacked Inquisitor (1st one) on a TFA card so curious what wave that is too.

Thanks for considering!  :)
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 18, 2015, 10:49 AM
I am really confused on the case assortments after Wave 1. I keep seeing people posting about finding the Asty/Plank wave but no one ever bothers to mention what other figures are in that wave, which I assume is Wave 2. Is that the same wave with the Ezra and Kanan repacks?

The Asty, Sarco Plank wave also has the repacks of Kanan, Ezra and the First Order Stormtrooper (with a new/different weapon part). It also contains a sorta repack of the First Order Snowtrooper (the "first" release is with the First Order Snowspeeder) but this version is not an officer. So the breakdown is:

That wave is Wave 2 of the Snow/Desert figures...

The repackaged Inquisitor is part of Wave 2 of the Jungle/Space figures, that wave is:

As far as I know, when it comes to the Build-a-Weapon waves, this is all we know about right now...
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on September 18, 2015, 11:00 AM
Can we start an official basic figure release thread here like in the Black Series forum?

I have been meaning to, I just haven't had a chance yet - I will try to do it today.

edit:
done! (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24070.0) :)

Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 19, 2015, 09:43 AM
Thanks guys! I really appreciate the info!  :)
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on September 28, 2015, 11:16 AM
Saw an interesting article (http://www.fastcodesign.com/3051411/meet-the-most-powerful-force-in-the-star-wars-universe-the-man-who-makes-the-toys) on Steve Evans, Hasbro’s Star Wars design director (since 2014) "and the man responsible for every The Force Awakens toy" (for better or worse, depending on the circles in which you travel :P).

Thought this was pretty interesting on the figures...

Quote
Matter of fact, if you thought you had seen all The Force Awakens merchandise previewed on Force Friday, think again. While dozens of new action figures were shown off, those were carefully selected to be only from the first third of the film so as to not give away anything which hasn’t been already seen in the trailers.

"As we lead up to December 18, there's a certain amount that gets released," says Evans. "There are certain surprises from our product line that no one knows about, that we'll release leading up to the movie, at the movie, and beyond the movie."

Made me wonder if those "surprises" are still surprises or if they've all been spoiled at this point....  also left me wondering just how many figures they are planning from TFA.  50-60?  More?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 28, 2015, 11:44 AM
We haven't really seen anything about Han, Luke or Leia yet.  Guess they aren't in the first third of the film.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on September 28, 2015, 03:44 PM
Yeah that's kind of neat that they may appear late.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on September 28, 2015, 04:19 PM
Does that mean we have a Bespin duel flashback?
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on September 28, 2015, 04:38 PM
Yes, the Bespin Duel flashback happens right after the Rebel Season 1 flashback with Ezra, Kanan and Inquisitor and right before the ROTJ flashback with Armor Up Fett and Jedi Luke. 
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on September 28, 2015, 07:01 PM
Yes, the Bespin Duel flashback happens right after the Rebel Season 1 flashback with Ezra, Kanan and Inquisitor and right before the ROTJ flashback with Armor Up Fett and Jedi Luke.

I can't wait for the flashback with the super-Armored-up tongue Action Jar Jar Binks Full Metal Jacket cross-over with Comtech chip!!
"Meesa love you long time, Anniiiiiieeeee!"
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on September 28, 2015, 08:06 PM
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super-Armored-up tongue Action Jar Jar Binks

That's a different kind of toy.

I'm glad that everyone who harps that Hasbro is ruining Star Wars now have a human's name to put to it.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on January 8, 2016, 02:26 PM
Thought this might be the best place to put this, but with Toy Fair not too far off now, what do you think the line will look like for 2016.  We'll most likely see some sort of ramp up when Rogue One gets closer, but do you think it will be mostly Force Awakens focused for the rest of the year?  Will we see any other vehicles get made?  I know larger vehicles are probably unlikely in an "off" year from the main trilogy, but its too bad things like Kylo Ren's shuttle and the First Order drop ships won't see toy form.  I was thinking that the vehicle line up in the Force Awakens was somewhat subdued, but I guess it isn't all that different from A New Hope.  We had a speeder (Luke's/Rey's), X-Wings, TIE Fighters, and the Falcon :).
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Diddly on January 8, 2016, 03:21 PM
I'm thinking Hasbro does a "tiny" toyline for Rogue One similar to a Marvel movie, i.e. there's only 2 waves, all 5POA and pretty much all main characters. Remember that Episode 8 is out only 5 months after Rogue One. Therefore we probably won't see anything until SDCC for Rogue One, and Hasbro probably won't make too much more from TFA.
Title: Re: The Force Awakens Toy Line - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 8, 2016, 07:11 PM
Hasbro probably won't make too much more from TFA.

I agree. There's the next two waves of both 5POA assortments. One more wave of WalMart's TBS 3.75" and a handful of new Armor-up and 2-pack sets. I think that's going to be "it" for TFA-focus of the line.

I doubt we ever get "old lady Leia" in figure form and if rumors are true that Luke and Rey have scenes on that island right at the beginning of EP8, then I would think the first wave for EP8 will include Luke and a repack of Rey from the end of TFA. I could see them maybe doing a "EP8 Preview" 2-pack or something with those two characters in it for Christmas next year.