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LEGO / Re: LEGO 2017
« on: February 16, 2017, 07:06 AM »
Hmm, I thought we already had a UCS Snowspeeder.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 15, 2017, 06:45 PM »
There's just one little problem there.  Because the hardcover version of the TFA novel was not released until 5 months after the theatrical release of the movie. 

The digital download version of the book (released the same day as the movie, BTW), which can be far more easily edited given the means of distribution, may have seen more robust editing at the hands of Lucas Licensing and the Star Wars Story Group.  The same might be said of the audiobook, too.

Audio version released same day as the movie.  My hardcover version shipped January 4, 2016 and arrived on January 5, 2016.  Paperback was end of September.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS)
« on: February 15, 2017, 06:33 PM »
I read that as Snoke is referring to "he who is barely alive" reuniting with his family, not Snoke reuniting with HIS family.

I'm guessing the obvious/simplest answer would be Kylo (injured in TFA) being reunited with his Uncle Luke...?  Going to be interpreted a million differnt ways and no one even knows if it's true yet. :P

No, it is the biggest secret of the new trilogy, Han Solo lives and is reunited with Kylo Ren! 

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:31 PM »
I am quite aware of the holocron and the Karen Travis saga.  IMO, part of Lucas showing he really couldn't tell a story anymore was his desire to have a warrior race taken over by pacifists.

That aside, the book isn't written based on the final cut of the film.  It just can't be considering it is released the same day as the movie.  That includes the audio version of the book.  Let us assume that Rey and Kylo are brother and sister in the original draft of the script.  It doesn't get revealed in the to the viewer directly, but is hinted at with the "it is you" line.  This first draft script is given to Alan Dean Foster which he uses to write the novel.  The novel gets approved by Lucasfilm/Disney.  After that time, new script drafts are written, changes are made, etc.  By this time it could be easily too late to change the final edit of the novel.  There are things like the Snowspeeder chase and Chewie ripping off Plut's arm in the novel that we have now seen as deleted scenes.  That does not mean they are canon.  The "it is you" line is only canon if Leland Chee or Pablo Hidalgo or someone else from the storybook group confirms that it is.  As of now, it contradicts what is seen in the theatrical release, which would seem it is not canon based on the previous statement from the story group.

Both the TFA novel and the Rogue One novel are closer to the final product than the OT and PT novels, but they are still differences which most likely comes from script edits and final cuts of the film.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 15, 2017, 12:48 PM »
The novel dialogue may not be canonical.  I have not heard a specific statement on this line, but pre TFA it was stated that movie novelizations are canonical unless they contradict what was on screen.  So things like Blue squadron in ANH and the appearance of Yoda in ESB are not canonical from the novel descriptions.  I think ROTJ novel may have had Owen being Obi-wan's brother as well.

Yes, but look at the eras you're citing: 
-The George Lucas era, where things were being worked out somewhat on the fly, or where Lucas may on a whim override the work of a contracted author (see the works of Karen Traviss)
-The sequel trilogy era, where the Star Wars story group is coordinating efforts between filmmakers, authors, et al to form a more cohesive Star Wars universe.

In the Lucas era, there was no story group.  It was just Lucas stating that if he wants to overwrite something he can.  Once Disney purchased Star Wars et al. they formed the story group which said that novels based on the movies are canonical except where they contradict what was on the screen.  While there is coordination between the author, Lucasfilm and the story group, the novel does not reflect the finished film necessarily.  There is no way it can since it is generally released on the same day as the film.  Therefore, the dialogue could be based on a deleted, altered or unfinished scene and therefore may not be canonical.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 15, 2017, 10:52 AM »
The novel dialogue may not be canonical.  I have not heard a specific statement on this line, but pre TFA it was stated that movie novelizations are canonical unless they contradict what was on screen.  So things like Blue squadron in ANH and the appearance of Yoda in ESB are not canonical from the novel descriptions.  I think ROTJ novel may have had Owen being Obi-wan's brother as well.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS)
« on: February 10, 2017, 12:25 PM »
Saw Gerrara was in the Clone Wars cartoons, so it wouldn't be the first crossover, but it would be the first major character crossover.

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL 2016-17
« on: February 6, 2017, 02:36 PM »
I would say the defensive play was just one play.  It is hard to give an MVP for play.  While Edelman's catch was pretty amazing, it wasn't a drive saving play.  A drop may have killed the drive, but it wasn't like it was fourth down play.  If you don't give it to Brady, then I think it would have to go to White.  He had 3 TD's, including the game winner, plus one of the two point conversions.  I would say the most impressive thing about the comback is that it almost all happened in the fourth quarter.  The Falcons were still up by 25 until about 2 minutes left in the third quarter.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 6, 2017, 02:26 PM »
Rey is hidden away probably at least 7 years before the massacre.  She is not hidden away due to the massacre occurring.  The events of the Bloodline novel is probably what pushes Ben to the darkside.  Ben was in his early 20's when he finally learns that Anakin became Vader.  In Bloodlines, Leia's political enemies learn the truth and expose it to the galaxy at large via the New Republic Senate, thus destroying Leia's career and pushing her towards the creating of the Resistance.  At the same time, Ben is training with Luke and Han is out running a racing team.  The Solo family had not fallen apart yet.  In TFA Leia laments that sending Ben away to train with Luke is when she lost Ben and Han.  I think this really reinforces the theory that Ben turning and killing the Jedi is what caused the rift between Han and Leia.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 6, 2017, 09:41 AM »
The events of Bloodlines does not make it seem like the "profound tragedy" has happened yet.  While Han and Leia are not "together" as being in the same place in Bloodlines, it does not appear that they are apart as we see them in TFA.  I have to think the "profound tragedy" is Ben's transformation into Kylo Ren and his destruction of the Jedi Temple. 

The timing of everything is what seems off.  Initially, one would have thought Rey was abandoned on Jakku in response to the massacre.  However, the massacre occurs a lot closer to TFA than ROTJ.  The huge mystery would be the who and why of leaving Rey on Jakku.  I also have to wonder if Rey is her birth name or not. 

If Rey is Han and Leia's daughter, do they not know it when Han finds her or Leia sees her once back they are at the Resistance base?  If they do know it, it seems pretty cold not to tell her.

If Rey is Luke's daughter, were Han and Leia unaware that he had a child?

If she is another Chosen One, then we just have some poor writing.  If the Sith, as we know them, existed in the shadows for around 1,000 years, and in all that time we only see the Chosen One when Palpatine becomes the Master, why are we seeing another one about 50 years or less later?  I guess we have to wait and see what Snoke is.  He does not seem as powerful as Sidious as of yet so it would seem odd that another Chosen One would be needed to take him out.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 2, 2017, 07:04 AM »
I think the events of Bloodlines makes the Ben took Rey and the Falcon and dropped them off on Jakku impossible.  Han and Leia are apart, but not the way we see them in TFA.  Rey has already been left on Jakku at this time.  Ben has yet to learn the truth about Anakin, which I think we may see as a turning point for him in his fall.  I also don't see how a pre Kylo Ben Solo could abduct his sister and steal the Falcon and leave them both on Jakku at age 14 or 15 and get away with it without any sort of repercussions from his parents.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 1, 2017, 08:25 PM »
I think Luke makes the most sense from a story standpoint and the possibility of an episode X - XII trilogy.  While Disney has not announced that they plan any more numbered episodes, I would think it has to be a possibility.  If the numbered episodes are the story of the Skywalker family, then we would need a Skywalker to continue.  If Rey is a Solo, while a Skywalker descendant, she won't have the name.  If she is Rey Skywalker, or "Original Name" Skywalker, then she can carry the name forward.  If they continue the possible Rey/Finn romance, since he doesn't have a name, he can take the Skywalker name if they were to get married.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 1, 2017, 06:28 PM »
It was Han's idea for him and Chewie to split.  He essentially told Chewie to spend time with his family since he has spent so much time away from them.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (SPOILERS)
« on: February 1, 2017, 04:02 PM »
Rey was dropped off prior to Ben's betrayal.  Ben's betrayal has not had a date set yet.  Rey is 10 years younger.  Ben was born 5 ABY and Rey was born 15 ABY.  With TFA at around 33 ABY and the events of the novel Bloodlines six years prior to TFA, it doesn't seem like the theory (that Ben took Rey to Jakku) could hold up.  The Falcon is gone by Bloodlines, and Han is out and about running a racer team, but Han and Leia are very much in contact.  Han isn't at the point of going back to smuggling yet and Rey would have been on Jakku for around seven years by this time.

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The Sequel Trilogy / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (SPOILERS)
« on: January 26, 2017, 03:08 PM »
Lucas' initial stance was that the dark side itself brought the Force out of balance.  I believe this was a stance between the OT and before PT, or at least before the PT was finished.  By taking out Palpatine, Lucas stated that Vader/Anakin brought balance because, at the time, he did essentially erase the dark side since there were no more dark side users in canon.

Once the Mortis episodes came out, Lucas had seemed to shift to a more literal balance.  It made the PT an even deeper trilogy because it would seem the Jedi misinterpreted the prophecy and that by turning to the dark side, Anakin literally balanced the Force by exterminating the Jedi (if in fact Vader is one hunting down Jedi during the Purge).  By ANH you have two Jedi and two Sith or a balance between dark and light.

Disney seems to be taking a separate stance, which they have to do to continue the story.  The ST wouldn't be the Skywalker story if the Force was removed.  We need a light side user in Luke and/or Rey and a dark side user in Ren and/or Snoke.  I think you a right that we may end up with something like the grey Jedi of the old EU...someone who uses both aspects of the Force.

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