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Title: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reconsgt on January 29, 2003, 11:19 AM
Ok as some of you know I am having a problem with a seller. I posted the info in the vintage section. Well anyway Paypal close the case stating that the time limit of 30 has exceeded. I paid Dec 10 and filed the claim Jan 24. I know that 30  days are up but what really is pissing me off is the fact that this seller delayed me by emailing excusses until I was feed up, then proceeded to email saying the package was sent. Well guess what ,that ate up the 30 days so now because I beleived this person and waited for my package and until he would no longer email me. I am SOL.


 This is crap. If these sellers know the system they can esentally screw you with little or no consequencess. I am getting very frustrated with these auctions and internet payment sites. If they were not so convienent and fast I would say to hell with them all but you are kind of between a rock and a hard place.


 What else is there to be done to resolve these types of situations short of a baseball bat. I filed a claim with Ebay but the seller is no longer registered. He will not reply to emails. What is next sending a certified mail but that can always be ignored.


 I had to let that out. I am still pissed and I think I will give the A hole a call since the only good thing that I got from this was his adress and phone #
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on January 29, 2003, 07:29 PM
Sorry to hear that Sarge.  It always pains me when a fellow collector has been ripped off when buying, selling, or trading Star Wars stuff.  There's just some real dishonest jerks out there who will always be looking to con someone out of their hard earned dollars.

I've fortunately never been shafted on the boards or eBay yet (knock on wood), but have been pretty close several times.  I've never had to go through the Paypal claim routine, but if what you're saying is true, that's a completely assinine rule on the part of Paypal!  There are many auctions or deals that tend to drag out for one reason or another for quite a while, so for Paypal to invoke a 30 day limit on claims is absolutely LUDICROUS!

Other than sharing your pain, I wish there was something more that I could do or some advice I could give to rectify your situation, but unfortunately there is not.

The baseball bat idea might not be too bad of an idea though...   :)

Good luck.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reconsgt on January 30, 2003, 08:55 AM
I hear that MAc,
 I contacted Paypal and the were a little rude stating that that is their policy and they cannot make exceptions on an individual basis. That I know but a 30 day period
 is a little to short in my opinion and when you have email records backing up your claim that the delay occured and then he stopped emailing after the 30 days were up,that is a little
 to suspicious. I kindly asked them why the policy was the way it was when a seller can clearly read the rules, delay and then essentially walk away scot free. Their reply was it goes in there file. So what. I bought this thing off an auction where until this the seller had good feedback, on a small dollar item who is going to check paypal references as well. To me it seems silly. And hey the don't seem to kick a person off paypal to easily so they can just keep it up as long as paypal gets its cut.

 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 14, 2003, 02:47 PM
I'm not sure if you saw this on RS.
Some seller on Ebay is a con artist.  >:(
The things we do to shut them down.  ;)

http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007265

Please take note, Do Not bid on 0 feedback seller's. Always check the sellers feedback for problems regardless. If you are not sure about an auction you are interested in or it sounds like a good deal from the start, Please Ask members on the forums by posting a new thread in there respected sections. Someone will see your post & will be able to help you out.

There are to many scammers out there that are going to take your hard earned $$$$$$$ & rip you off.

Just a heads up for members here.  :)

For you again Chris.  ;)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Cartman2.gif)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on February 14, 2003, 03:21 PM
Man...  That's about as bad and blatantly obvious as an eBay scammer can get!  Sheesh, absolutely disgusting.  Hopefully nobody gets screwed here, other than the seller of course.  Good job blowing the whistle on him Dale.  Keep up the fine eBay police work!   ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Chris on February 14, 2003, 04:03 PM
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He's even on the JediDefender.com server now! No firewall can compare to him!

http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/cartman.gif (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/cartman.gif)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2003, 04:12 PM
Obey my authority

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Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 15, 2003, 01:41 AM
Well how about that. Looks like ebay listened.  :)
I just checked his auctions & they were pulled.
Not only pulled, they don't even show up on his selling history.

 http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=perceptorreceptor&include=0&since=30&sort=2&rows=0

He is now a Not a registered user. ;)
Round 1. Bing.  :D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Obi-Juan on February 16, 2003, 04:55 AM
He better respect my authoritaaaaaa (http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/cartman.gif) It sucks that there has to be people like that.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 16, 2003, 03:50 PM
Wow, Cartman on the JediDefender.com server.  8)

(http://www.poster.net/south-park/south-park-cartman-4001497.jpg)  

What Scammer is next.  ;)  To the Bike Cartman.  ;D

(http://home.satx.rr.com/jroberts/cartman-cop-left.gif)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reconsgt on February 17, 2003, 10:03 AM
I have a pleasant update.

 You have read the previous posts about this but I had a pleasant surprise waiting for me in my email box. It seams the seller fianally is willing to send my items and offers endless stories why they were delayed. but the truth of the matter is that the FBI forwarded my claim to the Alabama State DA and they contacted this guy. I know this is the case because they also cantacted me about their pursuit of the case. They informed me that of the matter was not resolved in 30 days they were pressing formal charges against him.

 Well needless to say if you get scammed follow through with it. Don't let these guys take your money. I was only out $33.90 on this deal but that wasn't the point. The point was this A hole stole from me.  SO follow up with fraud complaints. They may all not end this way but it is well worth the few minutes to file the forms.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on April 17, 2003, 02:14 PM
This is always fun to do, what was the last few things you've scored on eBay?

Mine was a Marvel Legendsesque Absorbing Man from the old Hulk line...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16473&item=3126107825&rd=1

I need to still get She Hulk :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Mikey D on April 17, 2003, 02:45 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=154&item=2158553128&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=154&item=2158553131&rd=1

As you can see by by feedback, I don't ebay too often.  The items above complete my figural mug collection.

However, I have been eyeing a few Gamorrean Guard items for a character collection I'm thinking about starting.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on April 17, 2003, 02:58 PM
The only thing I have got in the past few days is the Kubrick Boba Fett as mentioned in the Other Collectibles and Props section of the forum.
Kubricks (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=12;action=display;threadid=231;start=15)

Also the Early Bird Kubrick set I just received a few days ago.  :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 17, 2003, 05:37 PM
Return of the Jedi Film Cel with an Ewok pictured.... It hasn't arrived yet, but should come in, any day now.  :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on April 17, 2003, 07:56 PM
I just got this baby maybe an hour ago via USPS!  :o ;D :D

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-03/jangodlx.jpg)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3126986570 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3126986570)

$9.99, can't beat that with a bat!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on April 17, 2003, 08:51 PM
Does he have magnets in his hands Cory?  Looks like a force flipper without the flip.  These Deluxe are starting to get closer to the POTJ Deluxe...then the next wave are almost regressing :-*

Do you have Mike's Jango Mug? Like I need to ask ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on April 17, 2003, 08:58 PM
Magnets are on the underside of the wrist gauntlets.

As for flipping, he does come with a flipping platform, but it has the Kamino Escape head, body, and legs, with re-tooled Deluxe # 1 Jango arms, meaning no clip on arm bands, just new arms with solid armbands and magnets.

Mug wise, I have the NECA Jango mug, as well as the NECA glass stein. if there are anymore, I'd like to know.  :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on April 18, 2003, 09:28 AM
My girl insisted I do a BIN on the following item, and I cannot blame her.  :)

Episode 2 Cereal Press Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3127944736&category=19079)

(http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_15d397871c5c471eb91a5cd655e2520a/i-1.JPG)

(http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_15d397871c5c471eb91a5cd655e2520a/i-2.JPG)

$40 BIN seemed fair for such a nice piece. Besides, the Jango box will make for a nice addition.

Speaking of Jango, I got this and 3 other magazines for $2.50 this morning.

(http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/dippolds/.mids/DateBookJangoFett.JPG)

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on April 18, 2003, 12:07 PM
Talk About Impulse Purchase...$72 shipped but I had to have them (about what you guys are paying at the e-tailer no?)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3127963212&category=348

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-03/bh%20kubricks.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on April 18, 2003, 12:48 PM
Sweet! We sure do come up with some cool merch..lol.  8)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on April 21, 2003, 05:17 PM
Nothing real new, I did get a Black Spidey from the Classics line for $6 and some mint vintys pretty cheap.  My Kubricks will be here next week stay tuned!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 22, 2003, 11:55 PM
Got my film cel finally, its fantastic. It pictures Wicket (spear raised), and Leia's feet.... very sweet score, I'll be getting another one.  :-*
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on April 23, 2003, 10:44 AM
Rawcliffe Pewter Jango's Slave 1 Keychain - $6.50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2171626040&category=154)

UK Jango Fett Flip Top Watch - $5.00 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=154&item=2170516666&rd=1)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 14, 2003, 11:02 AM
THis is more of what I didn't win and I can't believe how much this went for ::)

Daunte Culpepper Sportspicks Purple Variant (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3130760920&category=36571&rd=1)

I still can't believe $170...nutzo

Even more crazy is what other DC purples went for

Completed Items (http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&query=culpepper+purple&srchdesc=y&ht=1&category0=220&combine=y&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on May 14, 2003, 01:15 PM
Huh, not that long ago I could have grabbed you one for about $40 US shipped.  Oops, should have taken it.  I'll be happy with my white Culpepper, though having all three Vikes in purple would be nicer.

I'll see if I can't find you one over at the spawn board.  Is loose ok?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 14, 2003, 01:22 PM
Loose is great, a Purply Home Troika is what I am after!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on May 14, 2003, 01:25 PM
Duly noted.  I'll see what I can scare up for ya.  I'll likely have to trade for it.  I'll be parting with hockey chase pieces, but the good news is I got them at retail, so we'll work the trade ;) based on that.  

What's your upper value on Daunte, Scott?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 14, 2003, 01:28 PM
Probably $40-$50 loose...no idea really, I don't want to pay through the nose because I could always get a couple of white ones and paint one purple
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on May 14, 2003, 01:37 PM
Oklee doklee.  I'll call it $40 and see what I can do.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 14, 2003, 01:43 PM
Hey, that is what I paid for Moe's Tavern :-*
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on May 14, 2003, 01:47 PM
WEll, maybe if the Tavern came with a Moe... ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on May 14, 2003, 01:57 PM
My girl insisted I do a BIN on the following item, and I cannot blame her.

Episode 2 Cereal Press Kit

Dude, that cereal press kit is awesome!  I think that was an incredible find, especially since it's all about Jango for ya!  Your girl is very smart!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 14, 2003, 02:12 PM
An interesting report I found on CNN about eBay scammers. It's a 2 pager.

eBay's Worst Nightmare
 (http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,450899,00.html)
I like this part on page 2 of the report.

Chesnut says that within the past year eBay has started to take a more active approach to fraud. Instead of waiting for information to be brought to it by angry users, eBay's fraud department now does its own investigations. Last year Chesnut beefed up his team and created software to do things like monitor auction listings and catch the duplication of contact information. "At this point there's probably more people we suspend on our own than from alerts from the community or law enforcement," he says.
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Oh please, Grease me!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/bs.gif)


This is a prime example of one I am working on right now over at RS.

Email Warning (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008504)


Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on May 14, 2003, 04:26 PM
That was a good story.  He didn't think it would take 4 years to catch him.  HEHE!!!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reconsgt on May 16, 2003, 03:16 PM
I have been taken twice on ebay and have yet to get any results from ebay at all. Also paypal was no help and actually rude when I called them. I have been staying away for many reasons and now I prefer to deal with fellow collectors on the boards.  I really have changed my opinion on ebay. When I first started using them I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread now unfortuatly with the scammers and rude people I have become disenchanted with the whole thing. I still use it at times but I am alot more picky when it comes to sellers feedback.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: paploo on May 18, 2003, 08:50 AM
i have never really had any problems, but i dont think that article is a good idea. it went into too much detail on how to rip someone off.

its like a book
stealing101
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on May 28, 2003, 11:12 PM
This is what Limp Bizkit does to the youth of America..(link) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3133083063&category=2474)

..or maybe it's just the crack talkin'? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2474&item=3133082401)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on May 28, 2003, 11:15 PM
Those are too funny Cory!  Interesting way of advertising this seller has...   ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: chuckles on May 28, 2003, 11:20 PM
I don't seem to recall a Darth Mal in the movies.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 28, 2003, 11:21 PM
in the long tradition of star wars greedo went out like a bitch just like boba fett jango fett and who can forget king bitch darth mal now this little bitch can be yours to enjoy

That is classic :-*
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on May 28, 2003, 11:33 PM
Normally, I'd be offended, but this is just too..funny..  :D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on May 28, 2003, 11:42 PM
That is some funny schtuff!   ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Mikey D on May 29, 2003, 06:55 AM
Offended?  Definitely not.  Worried about the state of America?  Most definitely.  Don't get me wrong, I have a foul mouth (but I prefer the more elegant four letter word that ends in u-c-k  ;)), but to describe something so inane as a Star Wars figure as a, quote "bitch" is just wrong.

Now maybe your're right Cory and this is that tool Fred Durst's influence on the youth of America (shutter) or maybe its something else.  Either way, be afraid.  Be very afraid.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 29, 2003, 10:48 AM
it is one of the funniest things I have seen since the naked teapot auction...great stuff
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on May 29, 2003, 10:52 AM
I didn't even mean offended by the word "bitch", Mike. I meant the part about Jango going out like said explicative.

Cuuuuuz..he didn't! Bad guys always get a raw deal.

Nope, bitch doesn't offend me. I've got quite a sailors tongue when I am around my own friends.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 29, 2003, 11:13 AM
(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/ROFLOL.jpg)  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on May 29, 2003, 06:28 PM
Unfortunately, his clever marketing did not get him any bids.

Maybe he'll have to add some more flattering photos or something. Or a slammin' background midi file.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: proudfather2 on May 30, 2003, 11:32 AM
Unfortunately, his clever marketing did not get him any bids.

Maybe he'll have to add some more flattering photos or something. Or a slammin' background midi file.

Or maybe the seller could get out of the ghetto long enough to learn grammer, punctuation and perhaps just a little bit of respect!

Offended? You bet! I am offended that this person would think that this is appropriate behavoir for a PUBLIC forum!!! I am offended to be part of a society that endlessly pumps out millions of similar coma-patients on a daily basis. I doubt this can be attributed to Drugs and/or poor taste in music but rather poor parenting, plain and simple. My wife and I both work for a public school sytem and see this kind of behavior all too often. This kind of behavior almost exclusively comes from children from a single parent environment or from a family with a poverty level, or below, income. It's tragic really once you comprehend just how many people there are like this. :(  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 30, 2003, 12:01 PM
Seriously, this was pure poetry to my ears... I honestly believe that, with a few comas thrown into the mix, this loose Greedo would have sold, despite lack of demand, simply because of the description.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 1, 2003, 10:00 PM
I don't seem to recall a Darth Mal in the movies.  ;)
Darth Mal was only in the Spanish versions.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 3, 2003, 02:05 PM
I've started selling alot of stuff on eBay recently.  What I was wondering is how long should you wait to receive a Money Order from overseas?  I have one order going to England and one to France.  It's been 2 weeks.  I sent an invoice reminder vie eBay the other day, but no responce from either buyer.  If they don't plan to pay, I want to leave negative feedback, and relist the items.  I don't want to do this, and receive payment shortly after.  What would y'all do?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 3, 2003, 02:12 PM
It depends on the method they mailed the payment. Air Mail can take up to 2 weeks & surface up to 6 to 8 weeks.
Though I have had faster results by Air. Best time was 5 days but that is up here in Canada.
Another thing to keep in mind is alot of people do not check there email daily.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 3, 2003, 02:27 PM
That's one of the reasons why I only sell to people in the US or Canada.  Anything overseas is just a hassle.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on June 3, 2003, 02:46 PM
Just so I understand your situation correctly, are you in the U.S. David, and these payments are coming in from Europe?  If so, I'd probably give it a little more time if it's only been a couple weeks so far.  I've had numerous trading transactions on the boards (mostly domestic though), and sometimes it can take a couple weeks for things to work out just between other members right here in the States.  A couple items I've traded for from overseas folks (mostly in Asia) can definitely take a good 2-3 weeks to arrive sometimes.

I know we all like to get paid for our any of our online transactions ASAP of course, but sometimes things just come up, people head out of town, or folks get a little lazy, causing delays of varying lengths...  Of course a cutoff in correspondence may be an added concern in your situations here.  But when it comes to leaving feedback on eBay, I usually give it almost a month (with a few polite reminders/warnings near the end) before I think about hitting someone with a neg.  Especially if they're overseas.  So try to hang in there a little longer I suggest.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 4, 2003, 01:10 PM
I can tell you that my girlfriend won something on Ebay back in April, and she JUST got it last week.

Think of the person overseas as being an irresponsible U.S. bidder (someone who waits 2 weeks or more to pay you) and then add on 2 or 3 weeks for travel time. Then you have the maximum allowable threshold.

 ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 5, 2003, 04:22 PM
finally got paypal working and have currently won 4 ebay auctions!

heres what ive wom and the prices ive payed

chewie dejarik champion five pounds(inc postage)
chewie red card four pounds
chewie 12" hard body six pounds
leia with sail barge gun three pounds

have i payed too much?

help before i buy everyhting!!!!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on June 5, 2003, 04:29 PM
Well, if a pound is approximately equal to $2 US, I'd say you're doing pretty well.  

Beware the dark side of paypal (especially if like me, it goes on your cc) ;)

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 5, 2003, 04:31 PM
At least you’re still winning, all I’ve won recently is a R2 insert for 8 pounds (the pound sign doesn’t work here – that’s discrimination, that is  ;)  ), and POTJ Obi-Wan Jedi @ 3.26GBP inc. postage.

You’ll just have to get a hold off yourself, pb  ;D ; perhaps it’s best if you don’t go to the site for a while :) .
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 5, 2003, 04:37 PM
well i think ill just keep away from it for a while, anyway im working everyday for the next two weeks so at least ill have the money ;D
that leia i bid on a minute before it finished, do you think the prices were resonable rob?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 5, 2003, 04:53 PM
I think, for the UK, those prices are very good. You comfortably beat me on the Mechanic Chewie – I won mine along with Chess-thingy Chewie in one lot for 15 shipped (so really I paid 7.50).

The red-card is good too, because I’m sure places like FP would charge a lot more.

Princess Leia w/sail barge is great for that price (I paid 10 for mine), and after the Bacta Tank Luke, is the best POTJ deluxe fig, IMHO.

I don’t collect the 12” stuff so I’m not sure, but again, in the UK, I expect is still way cheaper than a specialist / scalper store, which is the only place you’re likely to find something like that these days.

Now, if you want my carded Rorworr, I’ll list it on eBay for you at the bargain price of 30 quid (mate’s rates  ;D  ) – you can even pay with PayPal  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 5, 2003, 04:56 PM



Now, if you want my carded Rorworr, I’ll list it on eBay for you at the bargain price of 30 quid (mate’s rates  ;D  ) – you can even pay with PayPal  ;)


ill give you a pound of tripe, too ******* and a scotch egg, can you send quality meat goods through paypal? do we have a deal ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 5, 2003, 05:04 PM
The problem is, PayPal will convert all that lovely Scottish currency into English, and it’s really the quality meat goods that I’d be interested in. So sorry N, no deal :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 5, 2003, 05:06 PM
how about a jiffy bag?
the food wont spoil too much :D

come on its a fair trade :D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 5, 2003, 05:15 PM
Now, sending live goods through the Royal Mail is not allowed. I’m not sure which ******* you meant, but I don’t think Dale Winton and Graham Norton would fit inside a jiffy bag  ;D . Besides, not being that way inclined, what on earth would I do with them?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: TopJedi on June 5, 2003, 05:47 PM
Now, sending live goods through the Royal Mail is not allowed. I’m not sure which ******* you meant, but I don’t think Dale Winton and Graham Norton would fit inside a jiffy bag  ;D . Besides, not being that way inclined, what on earth would I do with them?

LMAO! I almost fell out of the chair when he mentioned "******".......exactly what does this term mean on your side of the pond?

Admittedly, I'm not up on all of the foriegn terms ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on June 5, 2003, 06:12 PM
Well crap.  Looks like you guys have stumbled upon a word that was missed by our language filters here.  Even though I'm pretty sure that ponda's original use of the word meant something entirely different than what it means any many other areas, we'd obviously rather the discussion not continue on about it since many folks could take serious offense to it, if you wouldn't mind please...   ;)

We'll probably be adding it into the language filter shortly, so don't be surprised if that word in these posts turns into this soon: ******

I'm guessing this is what barfly was using the word (by it's UK definition) to mean:
"Meat balls made from offal (chopped liver) in gravy."

Sorry for the interruption.  Continue on with the eBay gab...   8)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 5, 2003, 06:20 PM
Brian, I found this great page that explains 100 different Anglo/American confusions. No. 3 explains “*******”

http://www.cheshire.demon.co.uk/steve/us-uk.html

I might put a link to this article in my signature, so that if Barfly or me say anything you guys don’t understand, you can look it up :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: TopJedi on June 5, 2003, 06:21 PM
hehehe, I was surprised it slid past also........I know the reason he used it was for some other context....I was curious what though ;)


Back to E-bay......When you have PayPal it makes E-baying easier.......you'll soon find yourself chalking up feedback fast there.....hehehe
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 5, 2003, 06:33 PM
Back to E-bay......When you have PayPal it makes E-baying easier.......you'll soon find yourself chalking up feedback fast there.....hehehe

My feedback has been stuck in the 90s for ages and ages. I keep selling stuff…but it’s like buyers think, “oh well, this guy has loads of feedback, so he won’t be needing mine”  ::) . When will I get my new turquoise star???  >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: TopJedi on June 5, 2003, 06:52 PM
Crap, me too man...I'm stuck at 97 positives.....no negs or neutrals ;)

I can't seem to jump over the 100 mark......
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 5, 2003, 07:24 PM
If I were to add up all the transactions I've completed and NOT received feedback for, I think I'd be over 100 as well...but I'm at 80 right now.

I don't use Ebay as much as I used to back before I joined Rebelscum. Mostly I use it for sales of junk in my garage these days. But....Just last week I bought a CD for a penny (plus 3.50 shipping) on Ebay. It was the Pokemon 2000 Soundtrack, which I wanted solely for the Weird Al track "Polkamon".

Gotta love Ebay.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 5, 2003, 10:12 PM
eBay is extremely addicting, and I try to avoid it as much as possible.  But there are times when I'm in the shopping mood, and I know that I will find something I like with no problem whatsoever.  eBay has it all.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 6, 2003, 05:08 AM
Well, I finally got a responce from both buyers.  The guy from England is requesting a price quote AGAIN, and now I have to translate an email from French.  The last 2 English translated ones made little since.  I'm  sticking to Canada and Australia for all foreign orders, from now on.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 01:30 PM
I sell to only US Bidders for this very reason. I have traded with overseas bidders at Rebelscum where I know people will be decent, but on Ebay....I stick to my countrymen.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 6, 2003, 03:35 PM
whoops looks like ive kicked up a little storm here, its all obi robz fault honest ;D on certain other sites i think id be kicked off by now!
yes i was very honestly meaning the liver based treat, which i happen to love, the best ones are from the butchers but brains brand are good!

anyway i got a pay rise today! ebay here i come!!!!!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 6, 2003, 06:21 PM
I know it's alot less hassle, but the US is saturated with alot of the more common stuff.  Outside of the US, is the only real market for alot of this stuff.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 6, 2003, 06:39 PM
its all obi robz fault honest ;D

 :o ;D

People have started leaving me feedback again! I’ve got 97 now :) Just 3 more points and I’ll get my new star…yay!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on June 7, 2003, 01:50 AM
When I sell stuff for a overseas market I usually only take Paypal for payment. It's alot easier that way.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 7, 2003, 03:11 PM
Well, I finally got a responce from both buyers.  The guy from England is requesting a price quote AGAIN, and now I have to translate an email from French.  The last 2 English translated ones made little since.  I'm  sticking to Canada and Australia for all foreign orders, from now on.

i think its shame that we brits get a bad name trading, i have traded to the states several times, and have always found that what i send gets there a hell of alot quicker than what i get. usuallly five days, we have a very good post system here, i try to trade in the uk because its easier here, but if somebody has what i want then i will go anywhere for it, just my two cents

were not all bad

barfly
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 16, 2003, 08:29 PM
I need some advice on ebay and suspenisons.  For some reason my Credit Card didn't pay some fees I have with ebay and ebay suspened me for not paying and sent me an email to an address that Idon't use anymore.  I went to paypal to pay them and had to set up a new paypal account since my old address is on it and I can't figure out my password  ::).  I was wondering if anyone know if once ebay gets its money if my account will be un-suspended automatically or if I have to do some other stuff to hopefully get my account back up.  
Now I just have to see if I can't contact paypal to get my other account back since I have some money in it I think. ::) :-[
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Membraneman on June 16, 2003, 09:23 PM
Well, speaking from recent experience. Once they receive payment they reinstate you immediately.
About 4 months ago they (eBay) suspended my
account as well. I ran a few auctions and my credit
card had expired.  I kept putting it off all that time
until about a week ago. I sent the payment in by snailmail (I don't use PayPal, Etc.) and as soon as they received it I was back on eBay.

Yes, I'm a bad boy Matt, hehe
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on June 16, 2003, 10:32 PM
Yes, I'm a bad boy Matt, hehe

You mean in reference to your using bad credit cards (they weren't stolen too, were they Bob? :D), or selling on eBay, or just for having a rather bizarre propensity towards scary little dancing pink elephants?   :-*

Sorry fellas, but I'm an honest, law-abiding citizen who doesn't get himself into such similar scrapes with the long arms of the law, so I can't help ya' out Tom.  Sorry!   ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Membraneman on June 16, 2003, 10:37 PM
The dancing Elephants of course??  ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2003, 12:46 AM
Bob, I think this one has had too much caffeine.  Look at that sucker go :o
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 17, 2003, 01:26 AM
Yeah Matt I'm a bad boy I ended up not paying them $2.10 hopefully the cops don't show up at my door. ;D  Hopefully in the morning I can start using ebay again.  And I finally figured out my Paypal password so I now have two accounts for paypal. ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 17, 2003, 11:15 AM
Do they still send you an email to let you know that your fees are due???
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 17, 2003, 11:27 AM
eBay sends you an email letting you know what the amount will be owed to them.

You currently have a credit card on file for billing purposes. Your invoice amount of $$$$ will automatically be charged to your credit card within the next 5 to 7 days.

When ebay gets there payment, you should be back online with them. Its just waiting for them to do so.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 18, 2003, 02:27 PM
well after the initial excitment of joining ebay and winning a few things, it has now all turned sour as i have recieved some of the packages. the first one i got was in a box that i can imagine a monkey having more sence to send, thus hugely damaging the card and bubble, however that seller has offered a full refund. Then yesterday i get my hoth chewie, the very wise and not a complete idiot at all seller had but it in a padded envelop, so of course it was crushed to death, now both of these traders have excellent feedback and a proven record for star wars items, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!!!, its a mistake a new seller could have made but not some one with 500+ positive feedback, now this puts me in a hard position as i have a rating of two and cant afford to place negative comments about somebody, because they will retaliate and people arent going to belive me over them. i know this sounds petty but i cant understand the stupidity of these folk. what do you think?

barfly
(i did however get chewie and leia trash compactor from R2Dtoys today and that was in fantastic shape ;D so its not all bad)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 18, 2003, 03:33 PM
A similar thing happened to me on only my second eBay win. A seller with a 90+ all positive rating sent my CommTech Jawa in a padded envelope (you can guess the rest). I didn’t want to ruin my feedback of 1 so I did nothing. I was well within my rights to leave a negative because the seller didn’t have a replacement and he refused to give me a refund. He said the damage was done in the post – well, duh!, who put it in a padded envelope? Like you barfly, I wondered why an experienced Star Wars seller didn’t have more common sense.

Anyway, the only solution I found was to sell it loose. I actually made a 50p profit. Since then, with sellers I haven’t dealt with before, I also put something like “please send in a protective cardboard box” on my note that I always send with the payment.

Rob :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 18, 2003, 03:44 PM
i think thats what i will do, ask them how they will send. I really dont know how they think they can get away with it, maybe its when they see newbies low feedback rating, they think they can take advantage. in defense of the first guy, he has offered a refund and doesnt want the figure back, the other guy however has sent a slightly sarcastic email i think all in capitals(that is universal for shouting isnt it?) with out saying sorry once, well see what happens with him :-[

does this kind of thing happen often? or am i being over sensitive?

barfly
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 18, 2003, 03:57 PM
YEP, SHOUTING IS VERY RUDE ;D. Some people on eBay just aren’t very friendly.

I actually had two bad experiences in my first 10 deals, but since then there’s been no real problems. I’ve bought about 70 things on eBay so 2 out of that lot is pretty good, I think :).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 18, 2003, 04:22 PM
An alternative is to wait until 1 minute before the 90th day has expired (you can get this by finding the end date of your auction and then adding 90 days to it)...and leaving your negative feedback then.

That way, they will have no chance to reply or soil your rep.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ponda barfly on June 18, 2003, 04:24 PM
can they not leave feedback after that time?

have you tryed this mr joshEEE? ;D

barfly
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: obi_robz on June 18, 2003, 04:32 PM
I've heard that idea too. In theory you can’t leave feedback after 90 days but I’ve also heard that eBay sometimes leave the auction page in their database a bit beyond this time too. So be VERY careful ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on June 18, 2003, 04:37 PM
I think it's more innocent stupidty/ignorance than anything else.  I've had lots of stuff come in padded envelopes, but others packed immaculately.  Most of the poorly packed stuff was simply a case of not knowing what they were doing.  They didn't grasp the concept of MOMC in the first place and figured someone would open it anyway.  

One dissappointing purchase I had was for the Tatooine Showdown cinema scene.  No bids, but for mine ($4.99) and the guy shoved it in an envelope and overcharged on postage.  Basically he was bitter because he lost money on the deal.  well put a reserve on then bonehead.  ::)  No matter really, I was planning on opening anyway.  

As a newbie (said the experienced old guy with a whopping 17 feedbacks) you're pretty much hooped.  Leave neutral or positive feedback that gets the idea across.  

great communication, fast shipping, packing could be better

won't do much as I don't read positives anyway.  Still, leaving feedback allows you the opportunity to respond as well.  Wait for them to leave feedback.  so long as instructions and payment were prompt, what can they say that doesn't look foolish?

Feedback is only a gauge, not a guarantee.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: paploo on June 18, 2003, 04:39 PM
just leave negative feedback, who cares if they retaliate. you can always comment on there negative stating this is a retaliatory feedback. this will help us know not to use them...or even threaten the negative feedback
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 18, 2003, 05:07 PM
Quote
can they not leave feedback after that time?

have you tryed this mr joshEEE?

barfly

No, I haven't tried it yet....as I only heard of this strategy 2 months ago, but I'm PLANNING to do it the first time someone burns me. That's for sure.  :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Broem on June 18, 2003, 05:16 PM
I am one of those that dislikes Ebay.  It's good if you just want to have the item and don't care how it gets to you.  Otherwise I'd much rather use the classifieds.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: RJP on June 18, 2003, 06:19 PM
You get all kinds on ebay. Although I've never had a bad pack job I have had one where the item was a bit shabbier than I thought. Mostly people just overcharge you for the shipping and handling. Though not all people are bad - I had one lovely lady acctually send me a refund of some money because shipping was less than she thought!!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 19, 2003, 04:58 PM
I'm finally back on Ebay and just in time to watch/eventually bid on some stuff.  Now I just have to make sure and change my email address. ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on June 19, 2003, 05:09 PM
I'm finally back on Ebay and just in time to watch/eventually bid on some stuff.

Just don't spend it all in one place Tom!   ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 23, 2003, 07:17 PM
SCOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!Man, I am super excited about this particular piece!

Jango Fett CANADIAN Frito Lay Stand up (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2179895371&category=37891&rd=1), and it only cost me $5 Dollars!

(http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_e9362f8b0c6bbf754832446dd376ca68/i-1.JPG)


The difference between the US and Canadian versions of these is that the Canadian has the Doritos and lays logos, whereas the US version has the Frito Lay logo and Jango's name along the bottom.

This makes 5 stand ups for my collection.  8)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 23, 2003, 07:58 PM
While I didn't win the acution I almost got one of the two Bonus Pit Droid figures that I neeeded to finish my collection and it was AFA graded.  I lost the acution in the final seconds thanks to a better sniper then I was.  Here's a link:Why  :'( (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3135763587&category=2476&rd=1).  I have that figuree but it got messed up in shipping so I needed another one.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 23, 2003, 08:13 PM
While I didn't win the acution I almost got one of the two Bonus Pit Droid figures that I neeeded to finish my collection and it was AFA graded.  I lost the acution in the final seconds thanks to a better sniper then I was.  Here's a link:Why  :'( (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3135763587&category=2476&rd=1).  I have that figuree but it got messed up in shipping so I needed another one.

That sucks DK.  I know how frustrating it can be when those snipers bid at the very last second.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 23, 2003, 08:16 PM
Awesome score Cory!  Can't believe you only had to pay $5 for that.  Hopefully shipping wasn't too much.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on June 23, 2003, 10:25 PM
Chuckles and I both snagged Riddell C3PO helmets for $9.99 plus $5 shipping.  Pretty good deal methinks. :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 23, 2003, 10:30 PM
The vintage SW lot that I won off eBay turned out to be pretty poor quality.  Back to eBay with you!!!  I did pick up a few more Dune figures.  I got a carded Paul, Baron, and Feyd + all 3 Sand Scouts for a bill.  The carded figures are the nicest condition that I've every seen.  I really don't believe that there are any true MOMC of the 6 Dune figures.  Here are some pics, and an updated shot of my collection.

http://photos.yahoo.com/davidwsmith3374
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: E.Z. on June 24, 2003, 12:52 PM
Best deal I got was last week. But it wasn't on Ebay, it was on Ioffer. I got 75 new Star Cases for 25 cents apiece. It was $38 shipped!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on June 24, 2003, 01:35 PM
Marvel Kubricks (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3134395096&category=36584&rd=1)

Destro (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3134815803&category=2467&rd=1)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 24, 2003, 01:39 PM
Those Marvel Kubricks are sweet Scott!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 24, 2003, 01:53 PM
Marvel Kubricks, your getting to be a Kubrickaholic.  ;D

Nice score Scott.  :-*
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Membraneman on June 24, 2003, 09:58 PM
Well, not all eBay but these are what I won, traded
and bought in the past couple of weeks..

12" Luke and Speederbike
12" Carbonite Block
12" Royal Guard
12" R2-A6
12" Snowtrooper
12" AT AT Driver
12" Han and Taun Taun
12" Gam Guard.............Thanks to JediMac... ;)
12" SBD.........................DITTO
POTF2 Skiff
Red R2 from Queens Starship
Saga Tie Bomber
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 24, 2003, 10:18 PM
Here's my latest score as of today. Though its not in the best condition, I'll still take it. It will go well with my Early Bird Envelope.  8)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Early%20Bird%20Stand.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on June 24, 2003, 10:19 PM
Over the past month or so, I've won loads and loads of Star Wars 70mm Collector Film Cels, a Gold Yoda Pepsi, and a Diet Pepsi (now all I need is Mt Dew and Storm), and a ROTJ styled Boba Fett Kubrick figure, completing my Star Wars Kubrick set (sans carded exclusive figures). There are still some items Im desperate to get though:

ESB Boba Fett Special Edition 70mm Collector Film Cel
ESB Darth Vader (Version A) 70mm Collector Film Cel
Gold Yoda Mountain Dew (unopened)
Gold Yoda Storm (unopened)
Carded Medicom Toy Show Boba Fett Kubrick
Carded Art of Star Wars Luke Skywalker Kubrick
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 24, 2003, 10:33 PM
Here's my latest score as of today. Though its not in the best condition, I'll still take it. It will go well with my Early Bird Envelope.  8)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Early%20Bird%20Stand.jpg)

Nice score Dale!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 25, 2003, 05:58 PM
This may be the single most hardest fight I've had to put up to obtain a Jango item in a long, long, LONG time.

But, in the end, it is mine and in the infamous words of Chris Rhoads, "It will look awesome in my Jango collection".  8)

(http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_d4f0bb3f1c43ac7ad6fb3293f284fd59/i-1.JPG)

Jango Watch (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2180174009&category=154&rd=1)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 30, 2003, 12:43 AM
Bump! I obtained 3 pretty cool/unique Hungarian Jango items tonight. My sites updated if ya wanna see them, I provided links.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on June 30, 2003, 02:32 AM
Very cool watch you won there Cory, and thanks for quoting me!  8)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2003, 01:07 PM
Here is the last thing I bought

(http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_5e90559263592e123255f1b4f1fb77c9/i-1.JPG)

It is a poster from the Pearl Jam show in Missoula, Montana.  I didn't go to said show but I am an avid outdoorsman and it has that retro National Parks feel...good stuff
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on July 15, 2003, 01:10 PM
I got this beauty about 3 days ago..

Jango Fett: Kamino Escape, Dark Armor Variant on a TOMY Stickered card!

Needless to say, very rare..

(http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_30f53ae33f097a664c133ff9943840c6/i-1.JPG)

Tomy KE Jango Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3138703165&category=2476&rd=1)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 10:48 AM
Original G.I. Joe -- 'grandfather of all action figures' -- up for bid (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/07/18/gi.joe.auction.ap/index.html)

$600,000 for a doll?  Come on now...my stomach starts churning at the thought of paying more than $35 for a chase Sportspick let alone 17,000 times that for something

No way will this guy get that much
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 10:53 AM
Here is the eBay auction

GI Joe - Original Prototype (Hasbro, 1964) (http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=28266&item=2181943766)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on July 18, 2003, 11:02 AM
Oh my.  That's really quite, well, frightening.  I don't see it happening though.  Joe prices have dropped pretty consistently (talking about 12" true vintage stuff) for about the last two years.  I have a couple of nice MIB 12" Joes and a few loose ones I keep toying with selling.  More than a few accessories as well and I probably should have sold the whole kit and kaboodle two years ago.  

Ya never know though.  Lottery wins, obsessive rich folks.  Who knows? :o
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on July 18, 2003, 11:11 AM
Have you checked out his other auctions?   :o   :o
Be warned, there's 158 pages of auctions. Not all toys but comics & paperbacks & models kit's etc...For a zero feedback, he sure has a lot of stuff.

Sellers Auctions (http://cgi6.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=heritagegalleriesandauctioneers&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50)

That Gi Joe sure is one sweet proto.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 11:20 AM
Have you checked out his other auctions?   :o   :o
Be warned, there's 158 pages of auctions. Not all toys but comics & paperbacks & models kit's etc...For a zero feedback, he sure has a lot of stuff.

Sellers Auctions (http://cgi6.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=heritagegalleriesandauctioneers&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50)

That Gi Joe sure is one sweet proto.
 Did this guy own all of this stuff?  No way!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on July 18, 2003, 11:26 AM
According to the CNN article, the GI Joe's are from Don Levine & it looks like the comics & everything else is from John Petty of Heritage Comics from what I can make out.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on July 18, 2003, 11:33 AM
YOWSZERS!!!   :o
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on July 19, 2003, 04:14 AM
According the this article from CNN, the figure did not sell.

Original G.I. Joe fails to sell at auction (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/West/07/19/gi.joe.auction.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Nicklab on July 19, 2003, 11:48 AM
Well, that puts Vlix to shame.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on August 8, 2003, 02:29 PM
Around the same time I was into baseball and football cards the first time (I quit for a few years and got back in '87)  I collected Topps Basbeall stickers as well.  My folks recently dumped a whole bunch o' stuff at my house (as I said in the Narnia thread) and while looking through it I came across my 1983 Topps Sticker Book

It is in beat up shape, players circled, torn pages...but I used to spend hours looking at it and admiring the different players

I then got to reminiscing about the fact that I only needed around 20 or so stickers to complete my collection so I looked and found these...which i won

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745191397&category=44828&rd=1

I can't wait to get them!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jango Fettish on August 12, 2003, 11:57 PM
Take a look at this weeks "Jango's Jargon", then revisit this thread!



















Ok..eBay will be debuting a new Star Wars format in the coming months, and it looks like this is the rough draft.

Action Figures > Star Wars

Prequels (1999-Now)    
    The Phantom Menace                
        Figures                                        
        Vehicles, Accessories
          Attack of the Clones
                Figures
                Vehicles, Accessories                                                            
    Mixed Lots
    Other
Neoclassic (1990-2000)
    Power of the Force
                Figures
                Vehicles, Accessories
          Power of the Jedi
                Figures
                   Vehicles, Accessories
          Mixed Lots
    Other
Vintage (1977-1989)
          Star Wars: A New Hope
                 Figures
                Vehicles, Accessories
          Empire Strikes Back
                 Figures
                 Vehicles, Accessories
          Return of the Jedi
                 Figures
                Vehicles, Accessories
    Droids and Ewoks Cartoon
        Figures
        Vehicles, Accessories
    Mixed Lots      
    Other          
Mixed Lots
Other

They forgot the original POTF line, but did add Ewoks and Droids which is kinda cool. This means eBay really does listen!

There is a workshop Wednesday, 12:30 - 1:30 (PST) tomorrow, so click here to participate. (http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jsp?forum=93)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on August 27, 2003, 12:29 PM
Oh God! What has eBay done. We were to get the Categories done the way it was mentioned by Cory's post above. Instead they screwed up.

Vintage (1977-89)
Accessories, Vehicles  
Darth Vader  
Han Solo  
Luke Skywalker  
Princess Leia  
R2D2  
Stormtroopers  
Other  

Prequels (1999-Now)
Accessories, Vehicles  
Anakin Skywalker  
Darth Maul  
Darth Vader  
Han Solo  
Jar Jar Binks  
Luke Skywalker  
Mace Windu  
Obi-Wan Kenobi  
Queen Amidala  
Yoda  
Other

NeoClassic (1990-98)
Accessories, Vehicles  
Chewbacca  
Darth Vader  
Han Solo  
Jabba the Hutt  
Lando  
Luke Skywalker  
Princess Leia  
Yoda  
Other  

(http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilies/boese/15.gif)  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilies/boese/7.gif)  

(http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilies/schilder/49.gif)

Any thoughts if this will affect your searching?  

Now that I justt came back from a good (http://adwoff.com/ubb/graemlins/bigbarf.gif) over this, here is the links in question:

NeoClassic (1990-98) (http://listings.ebay.com/pool3/plistings/newtoday/fixed/category48996/index.html?from=R0)
Vintage (1977-89) (http://listings.ebay.com/pool3/plistings/newtoday/fixed/category48995/index.html?from=R0)
Prequels (1999-Now) (http://listings.ebay.com/pool3/plistings/newtoday/fixed/category48983/index.html?from=R0)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reconsgt on August 27, 2003, 12:58 PM
I for one think this sucks.
 I liked the old way and I don't really see why there needed to be huge changes anyway. I took a look at ebay and did a few searches and all I can do is shake my head.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on September 16, 2003, 09:34 AM
I'm sure you guys have seen these before, but here's an email I just received from "ebay"

SafeHarbor Pre-Suspension

Dear customer,

We regret to inform you that your eBay account will be suspended due to the violation of our site policy below:

* Misrepresentation of Identity (User) - Representing yourself as another eBay user or registering using the identity of another.

Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are prohibited from using eBay in any way. This includes the registering of a new account.

Please note that this suspension does not relieve you of your agreed-upon obligation to pay any fees you may owe to eBay.

According to our site policy you will have to confirm that you are the real owner of the eBay account by completing the following form or else your account will be deleted.


 http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?SecureConfirmation&bp! user=1


Our apologies for this unconvenience.

Thank you for using eBay!

 http://www.ebay.com


Well, it's nice that ebay is policing such things, but unfortunately I've never done what they are suggesting.  Ergo, I believe this to be a scam of the first order.  The form to fill out is quite nice with all sorts of ebay links and logos, all of which would be pretty easy to duplicate with pretty minimal knowledge of HTML.  Well, that and a click and paste.  

If indeed it turns out to be true, no big deal to me.  Though I would like to know where this supposed violation occurred?  Ahem.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on September 16, 2003, 09:42 AM
Definitely a scam...  forward the e-mail to eBay and see what they say.

Be sure to let us know.

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 16, 2003, 09:46 AM
Yea that's a tad fishy...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on September 16, 2003, 09:57 AM
Big time scam. Do not click anything on the email & do not fill anything out! Forward it to eBay.

Send it to spoof@ebay.com

I have had them in the past.

eBay will not ask you for sensitive personal information
(such as your password, credit card and bank account numbers, Social
Security numbers, etc.) in an email.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on September 16, 2003, 10:28 AM
Am I the only one to noticed "unconvenience"?

Me fail english? Thats unpossible
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on September 16, 2003, 10:30 AM
And off it goes.  

I generally don't respond to anything asking for sensitive information.  Just too  many scam artists.  

The timing is funny though.  I'm arguing with a seller about mandatory insurance (within Canada and $2 US) that was listed as optional on ebay.  Perhaps time for my first negative feedback (to give and to receive).  

Maybe it's a way of telling me to stop buying 12" star wars figures on ebay ;D ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on September 16, 2003, 10:40 AM
The spelling, that's funny.

I also found it strange that they were about to suspend you for breaking the rules ( a major one too ) and yet they apologize, and thank you for using eBay!

LOL

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on September 16, 2003, 10:45 AM
ebay responded already.  Spoof it is.  Oops.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: dustrho on September 16, 2003, 02:11 PM
I got that exact same email this morning, and I've gotten them before.  Spoof emails really piss me off.   >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on September 16, 2003, 02:18 PM
The only one of these that almost fooled me was a Paypal spoof I got within 10 minutes of sending paypal payment to someone. It was so coincidental, I actually blindly clicked on it, before realizing the URL was not paypal's.

DUH!

So....what I did, was went there and filled out a ton of bogus information, with street names like "You stupid wannabe hacker" and so on.

It was fun.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 16, 2003, 05:08 PM
It was fun.
God bless you, Josh.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on September 23, 2003, 07:51 PM
Hi All,

So I finally bit the  bullet and set up a seller's account on eBay.  No Star Wars stuff, mainly cell phones as I work in that industry and have literally dozens of them lying around.. anyway.

I just have a few questions that maybe some of the seasoned eBay sellers can help me with.

1. - Is it normal for people to contact you and offer to buy the item "Off eBay" - I guess cancel your auction and sell it to them.  This is against the eBay rules right??

2. - Is it also normal for them to berate you when you refuse, stating that you will never be able to sell your item. etc etc etc?

3. - Will this happen all the time?

4. - What does it mean when the bid count is 3, but it is all by the same person.

Thanks for any advice and words of wisdom.

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Valtar on September 23, 2003, 08:30 PM
Well Sp00ky,

Quote
1. - Is it normal for people to contact you and offer to buy the item "Off eBay" - I guess cancel your auction and sell it to them.  This is against the eBay rules right??

Yes, it is normal for other E-bay members to contact you and try and get you to stop a auction.

Quote
2. - Is it also normal for them to berate you when you refuse, stating that you will never be able to sell your item. etc etc etc?

tho, this is not normal... there are alot of people out there that are just bungholes and will do this.

Quote
3. - Will this happen all the time?

Not likly   :P

Quote
4. - What does it mean when the bid count is 3, but it is all by the same person.

It means that the person whom placed a bid was worried about being outbid so they added a higher max bid.

and your welcome Scott,

Johnny
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 23, 2003, 08:36 PM
Tried to help ya out!


1. - Is it normal for people to contact you and offer to buy the item "Off eBay" - I guess cancel your auction and sell it to them.  This is against the eBay rules right??

It happens fairly often, or at least it does with the business me and a friend run... Depends on what kinda goods you're selling I guess. I don't believe it is against the rules, however - eBay has a Private Auctions deal, I think.  ???


2. - Is it also normal for them to berate you when you refuse, stating that you will never be able to sell your item. etc etc etc?

Don't be surprised by morons... and if they berate you, then obviously they aren't really worth dealing with.

3. - Will this happen all the time?

Possibly, but, it's no big deal, just delete the mail.

4. - What does it mean when the bid count is 3, but it is all by the same person.

This happens from time to time - not sure why.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on September 23, 2003, 09:20 PM
I've never sold anything on eBay, but I've done a fair amount of buying and "policing" (with Dale)...  ;D

1.  I wouldn't say it's "normal", but it definitely happens from time to time when buyers contact you for a "side deal".  And I do think it's against eBay's rules, if it works out where eBay gets removed from the deal and isn't going to get their cut.  They definitely want their slice of the pie!

2.  It's unfortunately normal that there's a lot of idiots and jerks in the world who'll throw a hissy fit, and lob various threats over the net if/when they don't get their way with something.  I say just report them to eBay, saying that they're soliciting the sellers and trying to cut side deals without eBay's involvement.  They'll be hearing from eBay in no time!

3.  All the time?  No.  Every now and then?  Unfortunately, yes.   :-\

4.  Either they're just getting nervous and upping their bid to stay ahead of any potential future competition, OR they're "chasing a reserve" amount, if there's a reserve price on the auction.  Buyers will often up their bid little by little to try to reach the reserve amount without going too far over it, thus making the auction "good" to assure themselves that someone's going to collect the loot!

Good luck Scott!   8)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on September 23, 2003, 10:09 PM
1: Does happen from time to time.

2: Yep, there a lot of people that will try to steal a deal. If they don't get what they want, they cry!

3: From time to time, not often but it does.

4: He maybe putting in a higher proxy bid, (his maximum bid) or if it's a reserve auction then he naybe trying to find the reserve.

eBay does have there rules. Like there ever followed by buyers & sellers.

Is against the eBay rules to cancel a bid to sell to an offer. This can be answered in there rules:

Offers to Buy or Sell Off-Site (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html)

This is eBays site map:  Site Map (http://pages.ebay.com/sitemap.html?ssPageName=h:h:smap:US)

All you need to know is in the links provide. Scroll down to the Help section & read up on the Basics link. There will be more links inside to help you out.


If this person keeps bugging you, you can report it to eBay. It's plain & simple spam.
This is the link for contact therecustomer support:
Contact Customer Support (http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_inline/bidding_buying.html)

Just click on Report Transaction Problems, then Spam & Miscellaneous Offenses, then sellect the appropriate category which sound like you need User Sent Unsolicited email (spam) or other.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on September 23, 2003, 10:27 PM
Thanks everyone.

I was just a little tuned off is all, as this was my first "Ask the seller a question" e-mail..  I expect questions, and hope potential buyers would email me so everyone is happy.

This guy just came accross as a .. well its a family site :)

I do believe his three bids were an attempt to find out the reserve.  I really don't like reserve auctions, but you have to have +10 feedback for a BIN listing and I really don't want it to go for nothing so I put a reserve.  I researched recent completed auctions for the same item and put my reserve about 25 - 40 dollars less than what those were going for.

Anyway, live and learn practice will make perfect I guess.

Thanks for all the links Dale.  I'll let you all know how it turns out.

BTW I don't think I will e hearing back from this guy again.  If I do I can work the delete button no problem.

Thanks again everyone.

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Valtar on September 24, 2003, 06:27 PM
One thing I forgot to mention, if you ever run into someone you dont want to do business with you can always put them on your Block bidders list I have had to do it a few times.  Here is a link to it.

Block bidder Clicky (http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/biddermanagement.html)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Mikey D on December 1, 2003, 02:36 PM
Spider-man Classics Daredevil (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3157322964&category=48967&rd=1)

$10 BIN and $5 shipping- not too shabby for something I never seen in a store.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on February 10, 2004, 01:12 PM
OK, so I am a newbie at selling on eBay, and have a question for the eBay veterans here.

How long do you wait for someone to pay, or at least contact you before you consider all is lost...

Here is the deal.

Auction ends, late on a Thursday.  I contact buyer on Friday, and ask address, preferred shipping method and method of payment.  

Responds same day with info....

Saturday he sends an email asking for total with shipping.
Sunday he sends another email, same info, AND sends an email through eBay same thing.

Note: By Sunday the emails were kinda "demanding"  along the lines of "Wheres my total so I can pay and get this transaction done!"

He wants to pay VIA Paypal (even though its not listed as a payment option on my auction, but I make an exception)

I read all these on Sunday and respond I will get the total including shipping on Monday.

Now Monday was kinda busy so on Tuesday I e-mail him with total including shipping, and payment information.

Wednesday ... nothing
Thursday ... nothing
Friday ... nothing
Saturday I send an eBay "Invoice" through eBay ... nothing
Sunday ... nothing

Now it is Tuesday and I still haven't been paid, and haven't heard back at all.

What do I do?  How long should I wait before I make the next step?  What would be my next step anyway?

I am a pretty patient guy.. A) I work in support , and B) I have two little kids!  Have to be patient for those things!

But this is over $200 we are talking about!

Please, throw out your $0.02

Thanks!

Scott

EDIT: Clarity and spelling
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JoshEEE on February 10, 2004, 01:29 PM
Ah yes, the deadbeat bidder.
Now...he could be busy, but my speculation from the event-chain you've posted is that he may have become impatient and got the item somewhere else? That, or he's mad at you.

Unfortunately, you must tread lightly to avoid receiving bad feedback from the guy. Here's what I would do.

First all...you have your items. So nothing is lost. Remember that.


Send him a letter saying you haven't heard from him in a week, and offer him three days to make payment. If he does not respond in that time, send him an Ebay payment reminder....which is an option you'll find in the seller's section of Ebay under "Non-paying bidders". This time, the reminder will come from Ebay..and give him 7 days (I think) to respond.

After that...you have to fill out a non-paying bidder report...and I think that one gives him a final 10 days to fix things. If he doesn't come through by then, your insertion and final value fees are credited back to you, and the transaction is considered closed. You can then leave negative feedback if you want to.

So all in all....you're looking at a max of 20 more days to deal with this guy, but hopefully a friendly email reminder with a not so friendly deadline will jump start him.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on February 10, 2004, 01:37 PM
I'm hardly a veteran, but I do sell stuff on ebay so....

In my postings, under payment information I indicate that payment must be received within 12 days or negative feedback will be left.  That gives the buyer a timeline (I'd hardly be difficult about it, if communication was satisfactory) and me an expectation.  Not sure if your auction had that information or not Scott.  If not, you sort of left yourself open, but not for an exceedingly unreasonable period of time.  

Think of payment in the mail.  Letters (money order or whatever) usually come quite promptly, within a week from US to Canada, so presuming you told him last Tuesday, it's only been a week.  Letters can take longer, up to and over two weeks, so I'd still be patient.

Sounds like you've got one of the classier ebayers to deal with.  I've been fortunate most of the time to deal with really good folks that actually email back and forth and have some understanding of time and lives.  This person may not be like that.  He may have sent payment though, and not been considerate enough to tell you.  I'd wait a while for payment, send him another email outlining your concerns politely and see what happens.  Give him a deadline for the payment to be in your hands so he has a timeframe as well.  

About paypal and the buyer....If you didn't list it, too bad for him.  I often don't bid on auctions that don't include paypal, but know DSJ will be the exact opposite if the auction is paypal only.  It doesn't matter what the buyer wants to do unless that option was available to him and you refuse it.  In this case you indicate paypal was not listed, so he's out of luck and should read more carefully.

worst case scenario you leave negative feedback for him (and likely get same in return).  You can give a second chance offer to the next highest bidder, if you're satisfied with their bid amount.  Sometimes they take it, sometimes not.  

good luck.

Or just take Josh's advice. :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 10, 2004, 01:52 PM
Well according to eBay, you have 3 days to contact each other after the auction ends. I usually contact the buyer the next day asking for there information so I can work out the shipping costs. Once I receive an email from them, I get back to them within a couple of days for out of countrie auctions as I take it to the Post Office for an actual as there is a discrepancy between online & actual that I have found out.

If its in Canada, then I can do it online. My payment methods are listed in the auction & I do not take paypal as I have had problems with them. The are people that want to pay by Paypal but I tell them no. If they can't agree to that, then they should not have bid IMO.

Some transactions take awhile to complete. I have an auction I won last week from a seller that I dealt with before. He sends me the information I need with the total cost but his Postal Code has changed. So I email him back to confirm if I should send to the old addy or the new one. 8 day have passed & I have heard nothing. I'm not sending him payment till I get an answer. He maybe on vaction or something so I will give him a bit more time.

Now since he has emailed you many times asking for the cost & you have email him stating you would get him the cost, I would tell him to relaxe & that your not married to the PC everyday.  ;)

People think you should respond within 12 hrs or they think something is wrong.  ::)

Email him again & just say, "Just wondering if you received my email with the total cost. PLMK, Thanks".

Everything you need to know is on the eBay site map.

eBay Site Map (http://pages.ebay.com/sitemap.html?ssPageName=h:h:smap:US)  

Right now I'm in the middle of tranactions & they have been pretty good thus far. I did have an email last night * again this morning asking if I received his money order but the mail has not come yet today & he can wait till it does.
If the payment has not arrived, then I'll tell him, nothing thus far but it should be here soon. Please be patient as its in the Post Offices hand.

This is the non-paying bidder report that Josh mentioned.

Non-Paying-Bidder / Final Value Fee Credit Request Program  (http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/npb.html)

I had an auction end Jan 31st. She just sent me the money order yesterday! At least she LMK.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 10, 2004, 02:17 PM
Guess what, the mail arrived & his payment is here. 8 days surface from NY. Not bad IMO so his parcel will ship tomorrow as soon as I cash the MO in the morning.  ;)  I notified him so he is aware & I will send him another email after I ship it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: stormie on February 10, 2004, 02:58 PM
Another possibility is that your buyer is not receiving your emails regularly or at all.

I use my Yahoo! email address with eBay, and I've had numerous buyers never receive my "congratulations!" emails due to SPAM blockers, etc. In these cases, I email the winning bidder (or send an invoice) through eBay letting them know that I had initially sent them an email and just reassure them that I have tried to contact them previously. Always works out.

Or...

Like previous posters have suggested, could be a deadbeat bidder. No big loss other than time. Just make sure to file a non-paying bidder alert.
 :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on February 11, 2004, 11:24 AM
Thanks all,

I am pretty sure he didn't mail the payment as he doesn't have my address.  I know you can get it from eBay but I would have recieved an e-mail stating so right?

I am also pretty sure he is recieving my e-mails because one of his e-mails is a reply to the first one I sent.

For the second chance offer...  this guy barely met my reserve price, and he bid about 15 times in a row in order to do so.  The other bidder would be way too low for me to offer it.  If this doesn't work I am going to have to relist it.

I am thinking he is either pissed that, in his world,  it took too long for me to get him a shipping quote and is making me wait as "payback", or he was actually hoping NOT to win the auction, and was just trying to find my reserve hoping to get out-bid.

I am really confused over this guy, he has really good feedback.  Not a ton (34) but all really positive comments...

Maybe he is away or something...  I noticed he hasn't bid on anything on eBay since my auction, nor has he left feedback for anyone since before my auction ended.

I send hima  polite e-mail asking if he got my total, and if he could contact me.

We shall see, I'll give him the benifit of the doubt for a wehile longer.  Just would have been nice to have this thing completed.

Oh well.   Thanks for the advice everyone.

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on February 13, 2004, 10:32 AM
OK, so here is the deal.  I really need your help on this one.

I get an e-mail from the guy late last night...  here is the jist of it.  Bold face is the buyer's comments...

1. - Sorry for the delay, I have been away. - OK

2. - I am not happy with the way this transaction went.  I damaged my phone (I was selling a cell phone)  and needed a repalcement quickly. - Never told me this... until now.  If I was in his shoes, my e-mail would have read like this.  Hi, I just won your auction.  Here is my shipping information.  Can you get me a total, asap as I broke my phone, and need a replacement for a trip I am leaving on in two days....

3. - I took you almost a week to get me the final value. - Well actually it was three business days.  He seems to want to count Saturday and Sunday.  He is Canadian and should know the PO is closed those days.

4. - If I were a seller, there is no way I would have waited six days for payment from the buyer. I would have re-listed the item. - Well I guess I am just a nicer guy than he is.

5. - Additionally, this experience has raised concerns about your ability to ship this parcel after receiving payment. - No real response here, but in now way do I promise a time frame for shipping, but IMO shipping within 48 - 72 hours is OK.  So far I have shipped the next day after reciving payment...  Sounds like an excuse to me.

6. - Please understand that it is not my intention to have negative feedback exchanged on this transaction ....  I would therefore like to be released from any responsibility you feel that I have to honour my original bid amount - OK, so here is the truth.. he doesn't want to pay.

Now, the other interesting item I should mention regarding his "need for a phone"..  he just sold 2 (two) brand new cell phones himself.  One ended about a day before mine, the other about 7 days.  He seems to have no problem accessing cell phones...

If I were to let him out of it, would I not have to file a non paying bidder in order to get my fees back, or would the simple action of relisting it do that.

Part of me doesn't have a problem relisting it since it barely went for my reserve price, but I want to make sure I get my fees credited back.

Please help!!

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: stormie on February 13, 2004, 11:09 AM
Well, in order to receive your credit, you do need to file a non-paying bidder alert. See link (http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/npb.html). Make sure you stick to the eBay timeframes.

I would send the bidder an email defending (nicely) your side, and inform him/her that in order for you not to lose money on this deal, you have to file the NPB to get your credit from eBay. Let him/her know that you are more than willing to complete the deal quickly from here, or you need to do the NPB. Most buyers don't know that sellers have to pay fees to sell things on eBay; they just think it's one big free swap meet.

Also, he/she seems concerned about negative feedback. You don't have to give a negative (or any feedback at all). The NPB alert will just be a strike against his internal reputation with eBay (they get three strikes). You might also think about forwarding the link above to this bidder, just for his/her own information.

Hope that helps a bit! Good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 13, 2004, 11:18 AM
Yep, stormie summed it all up. Sounds to me like he didn't want to pay in the first place. Just follow the directions in the Non-Paying-Bidder / Final Value Fee Credit Request Program & you should be OK.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on February 13, 2004, 04:15 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks for listening to my inane ramblings...

I just sent him an e-mail stating in polite terms that his winning bid is a contract and I expected him to honour it.

I belive his crap about a trip and a broken phone is a lie.  The beginning of his trip would have put him leaving on the second business day after the auction, no way to ship a parcel across Canada in time, Express Post or not.

I also advised him if he has special needs he should email the seller before bidding, not after he wins!

Long story short.. tough luck pal.  Pay or don't pay. And if it is not I will follow all the eBay methods, even if it does get me a retaliatory neg.!!

We'll see what happens...  I guess.

Thanks,

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 9, 2004, 12:24 PM
For those that use this service on eBay.

PayPal fined $150,000. Repayment policy investigated (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/03/08/paypal.fined.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on March 9, 2004, 01:58 PM
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on March 9, 2004, 05:10 PM
If PayPal is such an inconvenience, then maybe those people should resort to sending money orders like the old days? Hell, PayPal isn't the only online payment service.

I love it. I had 28 items end this past Sunday night, and I went from $0 to $650 in less than 24 hours thanks to PayPal.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: paploo on March 9, 2004, 05:40 PM
Paypal does have its downfalls. I sold a potf paploo on ebay. The winner did a bin, and he had -1 feedback. I could not cancel the bid because he did a bin. He eventually paid me using paypal. Once he received the item he told paypal i didnt ship it. I tried to contact paypal with the proof of shipment, but they wouldnt listen and took out 50.00 from my account, leaving me at -50.00.
Being i refused to get ripped off from either paypal or this clown, i stopped using that account. They sent me numerous emails saying if i didnt pay them then my account would get disabled. It eventually got disabled, but by then i had already signed up with my other email address. I put my middle initial in my name so it would work correctly. I wasnt going to be out a mint carded figure and 50.00. Had paypal taken the time to check my proof of shipment they would not have been out the 50.00...seems only fair, why should i be down 100
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: sp00ky on March 10, 2004, 09:40 AM
After reading this, some info on the paypalsucks.com website, and researching some more info on my own... I agree with quite a few people...

Paypal is very convienient, but it also has some major flaws, and I think one of them is their TOS or Terms of Service gives them too much access, and power.

All of this is with little or no accountability or oversight.

It really was discouraging.  

One of the things that really struck me was they could freeze your account, but would still continue to accept funds into it.  Meaning you have no access to your money, but they will allow more to be depositied if you don't get to people in time.  If its frozen, you can't even access it in order to shut it down.

This sounds very illegal to me.

Long story short ( too late I guess ), I closed my paypal account yesterday, I just don't trust them.

Scott
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 10, 2004, 09:50 AM
http://www.paypalsucks.com/

Yep, it sure does suck! I hate them!  >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jkno on April 1, 2004, 03:07 AM
look at this:   :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3185433746&category=50266
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: paploo on April 1, 2004, 05:00 PM
that is silly, i cant believe how much is there. i wonder how he plans to ship it. i dont think that would fit in most suvs
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Deanpaul on April 27, 2004, 10:38 AM
Usually Ebay scams are pretty easy to spot. This morning I read about one at a site called macintouch.com that is not. Here is the post:

Apr. 27, 2004

John Fuhrmann
I was bitten by a fraudulent email that appeared to be from eBay today... I am a webmaster and know my html and I looked very carefully at the source code before proceeding. All the links in this html email appeared to go to eBay. COM

The Subject of the message was: eBay Bid Cancellation Notice - Item
The message appeared to be from: aw-confirm@ebay.com
The message contained no text, only an attachment: detrimisScurt.htm

I have external links turned off in my email and so I looked at this apparently benign attachment. The very legitimate looking attachment said:

Dear eBay Community Member,

The bid that you entered for the item (<a href="http://scgi-secure-ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPIdll/ViewItem.htm">284328704</a>)
has been cancelled. You can view the reason provided for the cancellation by selecting the (bid history) link from the individual item page.

Regards,
eBay

I currently have bids underway through a timed auction manager and so I clicked on the number of the auction above. This brought up a legitimate looking login screen that appeared to be generated by eBay. COM. I put in my id and password and logged in. I was then taken to a REAL eBay page that said there was NO SUCH AUCTION!

Sensing BIGTIME FRAUD, I immediately went to my profiles on eBay and paypal and changed my passwords. I also forwarded the message in question to spoof@ebay.com, who wrote back to me within minutes to tell me that my suspicions about this message were correct.

I have been aware of several criminal spoofs like this in the past but I was always able to detect their true purpose before compromising my account.


End of story. Anyway, just thought it might save someone some trouble.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: SiteC on April 27, 2004, 02:08 PM
I delete all emails that come from ebay like "hot deals" and whatever.  Too much risk for crap like that...

As of right now, I'm more concerned about being scammed by ebay members.  I'm trying to work out a problem with a seller now, who I sent payment to in the middle of March and my stuff is STILL not here.  

Its been "My daughter mailed it"  "let me check with my daughter to see if she mailed it" crap...

I have a feeling someones getting a negative soon.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ook on April 28, 2004, 02:26 AM
That just goes to show you that you have to stick with rule #1 on this issue: NEVER SUPPLY ANY PERSONAL INFO IN E-MAILS LIKE THIS, WHETHER YOU PROCEED TO THE URL BY CLICKING, COPY/PASTE OR WHATEVER. Just type in the actual main page address to the site www.ebay.com, and go look through your own "My eBay" section for your supposedly cancelled bid (or whatever the case my may). E-mails asking for passwords, credit cards or any crucial info are ALWAYS SCAMS.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Xander on April 29, 2004, 08:12 AM
That's quite a sneaky spoof there, but what I don't understand are these other junk spoofs that I get every day, sometimes 2 or 3 per day.

The subject line always says "Question from eBay member regarding...", though it looks exactly like the kind of emails you would get from a member contacting you.  The text says some variation of "Hello, please add $7.00 for shipping to East Albuquerque for item # xxxxxxxxxx, wireless networking router."  There is no link in the email.  When I go to eBay and search for the item number, of course it comes up blank.  

What gives?  There is no fake eBay site or request for my password.  
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on April 29, 2004, 08:24 PM
ha ha ha (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63851&item=4146756343)

oh man, those pics are too funny...

edit: actually, i went back and actually read the auction... priceless. if you have a few minutes to spare, read it. you'll be glad you did.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Diddly on April 29, 2004, 10:18 PM
Oh... my God...

That's great! Thanks for the link.  ;D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on April 29, 2004, 10:35 PM
Priceless, absolutely priceless.  Nice ending bid for the guy too. :D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ben on April 30, 2004, 12:54 AM
Oh, wow.

Greatest auction write-up I've probably ever read. The pics are priceless too.

Look at the counter on that auction. I don't think I've seen so many hits in that short of time.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on May 5, 2004, 03:45 PM
I just found out that one of my old Paypal accounts I had but lost the password to is listed as my Pay Now option on Ebay.  A buyer sent money to me through this email address seeing it on the Pay Now.  I'm trying to figure out how to change this to my new account so that this will not happen again.  ANyone knows how to change it please reply here.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scott on May 5, 2004, 04:23 PM
Tom

I believe you have to do this at Paypal...somehow your old address is set as your default send to address.  You can add a new email address but I'm not sure if you can then make that your default payment address...

Anyone know this???
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on May 5, 2004, 04:37 PM
I manage to get in to this account so hopefully I don't have to much of a problem.  Winning Bidders could send me the money though this account then I will just transfer it to my other one I guess.  
Thanks for the information Scott I will try looking at Paypal to see how I can change it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: paploo on May 29, 2004, 05:01 PM
check it out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4192073766&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dengar on May 30, 2004, 12:43 AM
is this funny or something?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediKnight87 on May 30, 2004, 02:09 PM
how stupid.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 30, 2004, 07:26 PM
I feel sorry for the guy... should have known better not to buy those tapes anyway.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Vator on August 2, 2004, 06:51 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36068&item=2260825763&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

Why exactley do people feel they need to bid on something so very far away from the auction ending? I know, I know, reserves and what not. But, seriously, is a 6 day prior spree of auctions neccesary?

This set is worth upwards of the $300 dollar mark, given, and may even push the limits of one thousand. But, what kind of friggen moron bids 6 days early?

It's incredibly annoying. I only have about 250-300 on this thing, and am incredibly vexed by these fools already pushing it up to 150.

Heck even if I miss the reserve by a long shot, atleast I'll know I could have won it, and plus, I'm sure I could reason with the seller.

So, in closing, what are some of the grevences of Ebay you've had? Have you ever lost an auction due to morons marking it up WAY to soon?

Rant=Over
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on August 14, 2004, 07:46 PM
personally, i think that's the way ebay wanted it done in the first place. i hate it when someone comes in with like 2 seconds left in an auction and outbids me. absolutely hate it. not to say that i don't do it myself, which is hypocritical, and i understand that. and i love to do it. i do. but i hate when it gets done to me.

but back to your question - why do people do that? in my experience, it's usually either (a) people who are semi - new to ebay, or just don't understand how the whole ebay thing really works, or (b) friends of the seller, trying to run the price up early, so that when people who really want the item - such as yourself - go to check it out at the end of the auction time - which is what most people do - they will have to place a much higher bid in order to win the item.

but then again, i'm no expert on ebay or anything like that, this is just my opinion (on a topic that's already 12 days old, but i just saw  :P )
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Hemish on August 15, 2004, 06:12 AM
I'd be one of those ebay idiots!!
When i first started using ebay i'd watch the auctions and start bidding towards the end of it and by doing this i fell into the just a little more trap, and ended up paying some stupid amounts of moneyfor some things.
Now i've got a bit more control, i see something i want decide how much I would spend on it and put that bid in, if i win terrific if not , it just means someone else wants it more than i'm willing to pay , and good luck to them.
It means i keep my sanity and my budget under control, so i don't really think it's stupid to bid on an item early in the auction.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on August 25, 2004, 07:39 PM
okay, this question goes out to the guys (and gals) here who do a little of both on ebay - buying and selling. mostly for the sellers...

when you sell an item, when do you leave feedback for the buyer? do you leave it right away, as soon as the item is paid for, or do you wait?

i see way too many people on ebay selling things, saying right in their auctions, "please leave feedback for me after you have received your item. i will not leave feedback for you until after you have left it for me."

that's a bunch of bull****.

i understand that many people get feedback for transactions and don't leave any. but when i sell something, as soon as i get paid for that item and ship it out, i leave feedback for the person who bought it. if they don't leave feedback for me? oh well, they suck. but for a seller to not leave feedback until after an item is received? i think that's stupid. if a person pays on time (or as this point - if they pay at all) you should leave feedback for them at that time. what's the matter? afraid you're going to get a negative once your item is received and it's not what you advertised? then don't sell crap.

so what do you guys do? leave feedback when an item is paid for, or do you wait? and how do you feel about people who do that?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: chuckles on August 25, 2004, 08:14 PM
I, like you, will leave feedback as soon as the payment has been recieved. No reason not too. Their end of the deal has been completed and as long as they paid in a reasonable amount of time, positive feedback is in order.

I think it sucks when other sellers wait until you leave feedback before leaving it for you. Worse yet, is those who don't even leave feedback period, even after you've left it for them.

I'm almost to the point where I might start factoring in the amount of feedback a seller has left before I even place a bid. If they want my bid, and my feedback after the item has been received, I want some assurance they'll reciprocate the good deed. Because if it wasn't for feedback, ebay simply wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob L on August 25, 2004, 08:59 PM
To my mind feedback should only be left once the deal is over.  If for some reason the deal fell through or the item got lost and I had to give a refund it would be a “no-sale”. Therefore, why would I leave feedback before I know the item has arrived safely?  I bank cheques as soon as they arrive, pack items perfectly, and send the item the same day that the funds clear. I email the buyer at every stage of the process.  Why should I go to all this effort and risk being left negative feedback by one of the nuts out there?  The customer being happy is as much part of their end of the deal as much as is their obligation to send the money. 

I was once threatened with negative feedback for late delivery by a very unpleasant buyer.  Now, I had posted the item as soon as the payment cleared, but the postal service was very slow that month.  How is that my fault?  One of the reasons it turned out OK was because I hadn’t left feedback yet and so the buyer couldn’t post lies about me without fear of comeback.

When I’m buying (and it’s 50-50 with me on eBay) I always leave feedback first.  It’s only polite to let the seller know that the item has arrived safe and well, and to thank them for their efforts.  For all the horror stories you hear, there are some great sellers out there who take a lot of care with their packaging and they deserve the credit when it’s due.

This is why I have never had to leave negative or neutral feedback, and why my own record is 205 @ 100% positive.

And another point is that feedback isn’t compulsory.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jadesfire on August 25, 2004, 09:02 PM
I leave feedback as soon as someone pays for an item.  Why wait?  I'm not a big fan of those who won't leave feedback when I pay until I post their's first but as long as they keep up their end, then I'm satisfied.  I just don't get WHY one would post that in an auction.  Of all the ones I've seen that state those terms, they seem to be a "power" seller or pretty damn close. It bugs me a little but not enough for me to actually not bid on anything.  

I can only assume they actually make a living on Ebay and really need people to post feedback for them (and they must be assuming positive postings) so that one would be more apt to bid/buy from them rather than someone with under 50 feedbacks or something.....just my .02 cents.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: SilverZ on August 25, 2004, 09:32 PM
When I was using ebay, I'd always leave feedback right away, too. That seems the only honest thing to do.

However, I always found that I'd get feedback (when selling) every 1 in 5 times, at best, so I understand the feedback ransom mentality. It's frustrating if you're trying to build a good reputation and only a few of your customers bother leaving positive words. It's then harder (and misrepresentative) to give an accurate impression of your ebay habits when someone leaves a negative.

On a sidenote, that's why I gave up on ebay. I used to sell all of my DVDs on there. I got tired of people treating me like I'm Amazon.com, and flipping out when their package hadn't arrived within 2 days of paying. There's just not a lot of realization from folks that all sellers aren't full time business guys, solely existing in the world to peddle cheap crap on ebay. It just wasn't worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Revenge on August 25, 2004, 09:40 PM
When I buy, I give feedback when I get the item. When I sell, I wait till I get my feedback from the buyer.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on August 25, 2004, 09:57 PM
To my mind feedback should only be left once the deal is over.  If for some reason the deal fell through or the item got lost and I had to give a refund it would be a “no-sale”. Therefore, why would I leave feedback before I know the item has arrived safely?  I bank cheques as soon as they arrive, pack items perfectly, and send the item the same day that the funds clear. I email the buyer at every stage of the process.  Why should I go to all this effort and risk being left negative feedback by one of the nuts out there?  The customer being happy is as much part of their end of the deal as much as is their obligation to send the money. 

on the one hand, i understand your point. but at the same time, once the items have been paid for, and in a satisfactory time period, doesn't the buyer deserve to get feedback? they have fulfilled their obligation by getting your money to you in a timely manner, and they can not be held responsible for the post office losing the box, can they? even if the money is refunded, and the transaction becomes a "no-sale" as you put it, wouldn't that person deserve feedback, simply based on the fact that they paid for the item, and all was well?

granted, there are plenty of nuts out there, as you said. but i've seen people leave negative feedback for good transactions as well.

and, on the other end of the spectrum, i once got positive feedback from a buyer, even though they never received their package. like you said, i communicate with the buyer 100%. let them know when i get the payment, let them know when it ships, and provide a tracking number. one person never got their package, but opted not to pay for insurance. when they tracked it, it showed it was shipped out by me, and it shows their area as the place of delivery, but they never got it. yet, they still left me positive feedback, since they realized that i did everything i could to get them the item, and it wasn't my fault that the post office lost it. now, i realize that this is a 1 in a 1,000,000 chance of this happening, but it just goes to show you that not everyone on ebay is an idiot.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2004, 11:27 PM
I've never sold anything, just bought, but in my experience of buying I've NEVER had a seller give me the feedback first, even after they've received payment and stuff.  It's like they're afraid if I'm unhappy after getting the product that they want to at least rebuttle with something.

I always am forced to send it first.  What I hate is powersellers (there's a title to be proud of  :-X ) who won't leave any feedback.  Being that I'm right around a positive of 30, every little one helps me increase my total, ya know?  And when that low it looks good.

Sure maybe they've got 5000 Positive, but have the decency to send me a friggin' positive if I took the time to do the same for you, ya know?  Oh well.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 25, 2004, 11:52 PM
I no longer leave feedback until I've already gotten it.  Unless say there were 3 transactions...I'll leave one, reserving the right to post 2 negatives just as a deterrant to someone leaving me negative feedback when the might otherwise not.

I do this, because I now have three negatives - ALL are from idiots who either did not email me or contact me about the problems they had - and TWO of the three are people who failed to accurately read my crystal clear item descriptions.  The third guy just never told me there was a problem - he left me 4 positives and 1 negative.   Hell, the second of my 3 was from a guy who I emailed a dozen times over the course of 3 months, each time the email was returned to me as having a full email box - his rating?  Zero.  He had 5 positives and 5 negatives - my rating?  155, with 3 negatives - one from that twerp.

People don't realize that some people take their feedback rating seriously and they don't bother trying to resolve problems cordially before going forward with unncessary negative feedback.

Sorry for the tone...this just made me remember how mad I was each time I got one when it was totally avoidable.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob L on August 26, 2004, 04:34 AM
I realise that I might come across as mean, but as noted in the post above, feedback can be very important…a good rating can give you an edge especially if you’re a seller trying to shift one of those bloody Ep1 Padmés :)

I just don’t think it’s fair when I actually DO provide a service as fast as Amazon that I should be sweating on what a crank buyer might post about me. 

It’s why I prefer to deal on forums where I often know the person I’m trading with and can get any problems (none yet!) sorted out before it gets unpleasant.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on August 26, 2004, 05:25 AM
I haven't eBay'ed much at all in recent years, ever since I discovered the various Star Wars forums, and the great trading networks that exist therein.  But the several years before that, I'd hit eBay for the occasional SW goodies that I missed at retail.  I've never sold a single thing on eBay, but I've probably bought things/won auctions about 125 times.  In those 125 auctions wins, all of which went very smoothly on both ends, I only received feedback a little over half the time, whereas I left it about 95% of the time.  Frustrating.

But to the issue at hand, I can see the other point of view here, where a seller might be hesitant to leave a positive just because he's received the money.  To me, that's not necessarily where the transaction ends.  You just never know if you're gonna have a wacko freak on the opposite end of your transaction, that pays quickly, but then throws a **** fit when he receives his item(s), simply because they've got a microscopic nick on the back of the card, or some other lameass reason.  In otherwords, I think the deal can still go bad after you receive their payment, so you don't want to get stuck with giving them a positive, and then wish you could change it later on...  (or maybe you can change it now - I don't know).

But that's in regards to eBay, and/or dealing with people you don't really know.  But here on the JD trading boards, where I unload lots of stuff to fellow members, I almost always leave feedback when I get their payment, and don't sweat some bizarro reaction on the receiving end of my package, 'cause most everyone I deal with is either a buddy, or someone I at least know reasonably well from the boards.  So in that respect, even if something goes a little wrong later on, I know we'll be able to work it out amicably, and that I wouldn't regret already leaving them a positive for sending a quick payment out...

That's just my personal take on the issue though.  Obviously opinions vary.  But next time Dave pays me for something (which will probably be next week), I think I'll intentionally hold off on leaving him any feedback for a while, just to make him sweat it out...   :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: chuckles on August 26, 2004, 09:32 AM
Quote
You just never know if you're gonna have a wacko freak on the opposite end of your transaction, that pays quickly, but then throws a **** fit when he receives his item(s), simply because they've got a microscopic nick on the back of the card, or some other lameass reason.

A negative can still be avoided as a seller in cases like this so long as you respond quickly to the buyer, are professional and courteous in your emails, and offer a solution to the problem, such as a partial refund, if need be.

I've been involved in around 700 transactions on ebay over the past 4 1/2 yrs, with probably a half or 2/3 as a seller, and have only had maybe 3-4 instances at most where the item (in all cases it was a baseball card) did not meet up to the buyers standard. Now to me, the cards were worthy of a "mint" grade in my description by definition. It may not have been 100% flawless under super close inspection, but doesn't need to be to still be classified as mint as opposed to "gem mint". Anyway, in these few cases, the buyers email me, letting me  know the flaw the card has, and in one case, the buyer states the condition was such that he would have thrown the card away had he pulled it out of a pack. Keep in mind, the flaw was a tiny crease, maybe 1/16" in size on one of the corners. And it was an autographed card to boot (yeah right, sure he would that tossed that  ::)) Rather than criticize the buyer about how ridiculous his grading standards were, I simply apologized that the card did not meet his expectations, offered a partial refund (was somewhere in the range of 15-20% of price), which he accepted, and I still ended up with a positive feedback from the guy.

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and, on the other end of the spectrum, i once got positive feedback from a buyer, even though they never received their package.

I actually can go that one step further with a very recent transaction. I sold a playstation game on ebay about a month ago to a buyer in Canada, who had a feedback rating of 4. I got his payment, left his feedback, and emailed him to let him know I would be mailing out his item later that day. I then go and log into ebay later that afternoon, and wouldn't you know it, the guy has already left me positive feeback. Meanwhile, I hadn't even made it the post office yet, and still had it in my possession. Talk about leaving yourself open to getting burned on a deal. But yes, I did mail out his item. Oddly enough, that was not even the first time this has happened, but the 2nd time when I've recieved feedback right after letting them know I've shipped out their stuff.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: CorranHorn on January 20, 2005, 03:51 AM
ok this may seem like a dumb question, but I don't ebay too often so I'm not clear on this. if an auction with a bin, ends with 1 bid at the starting price, is the seller still obliged to sell the item to the winner at the price he won it at? or is the BIN acted upon in the same fashion as a reserve in that if the BIN doesn't get met, the seller doesn't have to sell the item.

thanks!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2005, 04:29 AM
The price it ended on is the price...  BIN's can run a lot higher than the original price, and I've won a few auctions that were NOWHERE in the ballpark even of a BIN...

Ebay's so full of jagoffs anymore that I'm just dis-enchanted with the damn place anymore.  It was so great not too long ago...  People were making money, things were cool, then some knob decided, "Hey, let's try all these loopholes like outrageous shipping and 'handling' fees", and they have turned the place into a cess-pit of sellers who just aren't accepting that what they have is a piece of **** that isn't worth the material it's made of.

I've been looking at some things I wanted to pick up and it's all "junk" for customs and while the price is right almost 85% of the time I'd say, the shipping is always like $10 for something that won't even cost $6 to ship to me.

Not to mention the dickhole who puts "And if you live in PA, add sales tax", that is so outrageous it's not even funny... 

Sorry for the rant Jason, just pisses me off that a once great outlet's now trashed...  Nevermind the whole "AFA" thing, or people doing unscrupulous business (repros and customs) ruining a once great hobby like the vintage.  F that, I'll buy figures in person I guess rather than deal with that.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: CorranHorn on January 20, 2005, 04:41 AM
JJ, that's pretty much why I don't ebay much anymore. Back in 98/99 it was a great place to score vintage swag, but this the **** hit the fan and it became the cesspool you've mentioned.

The reason for my question is I'm the current high bidder on two auctions with BINs. On one auction I'm winning at the starting price of $5 with the BIN being $15, while the other one I'm winning at $10 with the BIN being $35. On the $15 BIN one, I wouldn't mind paying the BIN, but I'd like to see if I can get away with the $5 bid. If I lose out overall, no worries I'm only marginally interested in the item, I just thought it would be neat to have. As for the $35 BIN, it's a bit outrageous since the item in question has a $25 value tops. It'll be a wait and see, maybe I'll get lucky, but I won't be bummed if I don't win either.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2005, 05:04 PM
Well, as a seller on ebay at times, I purposely put the BIN's over what the item is worth.  Why?  Simply because I hope that some newb will walk on and see this item, get anxious because it's not too much over the usual selling price on ebay and jump at it, netting me an extra $10. 

But I do something different with my BIN stuff from what you've described Jason.  Once someone puts in the starting bid, my BIN goes away.  I just let the auction run that way and see where it goes.  If I have a set price in mind, I'll pay for the reserve function. 

What I don't get is how you bid to the reserved price.  I know there's a way to do that, but I've never bothered to figure it out.  It seems to happen with a lot of my auctions and right today it happened with my McFarlane series 1 Patrick Roy repaint.  Bang, it's sitting at my reserve price (which, btw, is quite low, but since the bubble has some damage, I only wanted to ensure I didn't lose money on the deal, so the reserve was what I paid for the item in the first place plus the shipping I paid). 

As far as ebay being full of jagoffs, well, it's pretty much true, but most of the time (in fact about 99%) of the time, I've been pretty lucky.  Not too many unscrupulous sellers I've run into.  But I am also very careful.  I completely echo Jesse's statements about shipping though.  I've paid $10 for shipping and had a bubble envelope come with $1.30 in shipping on it.  I accept the cost of the envelope at a grossly inflated value, but no envelope costs $9 >:(

As far as shipping costs go, sometimes people have legitimate costs.  Those include packing materials.  I can't get free tape or free bubble wrap or free peanuts.  Now if it comes in a beat up box (those I can get free) stuffed with newspaper, well, that's a whole different story. 

Anyhoo, good luck and even if the BIN's remain and are not reached, the seller is obliged to sell to you.  I just sold my Stealth Predator for $86.  Low final value and my BIN was $105.  It's going out the door for $86 no matter how much more I was hoping for.  That's the risk you take as a seller.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on January 21, 2005, 12:04 AM
What I don't get is how you bid to the reserved price.  I know there's a way to do that, but I've never bothered to figure it out.  It seems to happen with a lot of my auctions and right today it happened with my McFarlane series 1 Patrick Roy repaint.  Bang, it's sitting at my reserve price (which, btw, is quite low, but since the bubble has some damage, I only wanted to ensure I didn't lose money on the deal, so the reserve was what I paid for the item in the first place plus the shipping I paid). 

It goes something like this:

Let's say you set a reserve of $50 for an item. You start the bidding at $5. First person comes along and bids $75 for your item. Instead of just sitting at $5 until that person gets outbid, ebay automatically jumps the bid up to your reserve of $50.

Or at least I think that's what you were asking.... no?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 21, 2005, 12:10 AM
Yep, that's it.  Thanks.  Guess I should be setting the reserve higher.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: CorranHorn on January 21, 2005, 12:30 AM
Anyhoo, good luck and even if the BIN's remain and are not reached, the seller is obliged to sell to you.  I just sold my Stealth Predator for $86.  Low final value and my BIN was $105.  It's going out the door for $86 no matter how much more I was hoping for.  That's the risk you take as a seller.

Well I hope the sellers feel the same as you Morgbug. :) I did notice that the BINs on the auctions did disappear after I placed my bid on them. So fingers crossed that the sellers will respect my minute bids. Thanks!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2005, 12:53 AM
yeah, i can't even say I've been burned on Ebay ever.  There was what I feel was an attempt but I can be a very persuasive (IE: persistant and rather intrusive) and think I got my product because I was raising hell...

It's just outta hand.  And for the Canuckleheads, it costs a LITTLE more to send but not what some of those guys say they'll charge to ship up North...  It's total bull****.  Not only are they spiking it on domestic shipping but I've seen guys say "Well, it's gonna cost another $5 or so to ship to Canada".

I declare Shenanigans on that ****!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 21, 2005, 01:07 AM
I declare Shenanigans on that ****!

Amen.  Not only they charge 2-3X the domestic shipping price, many sellers (especially online shops) will also add a handling fee as well.  Hey, I know you've got to fill out the customs slip, but is that really worth another $5 to $15?  Argh.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: CorranHorn on January 24, 2005, 02:05 AM
So I wanted to go ahead and change my e-mail address on eBay to an account that I can check more regularly. But when I got to the section to change my e-mail address, eBay wanted me to input my credit card information. At first I thought somehow I got tricked into a scam site, but sure enough everything appears to be an official e-Bay site. Has anyone experienced this before, what kind of BS is this? It's just a simple e-mail address change, they should not be asking this kind of detailed info.

tia
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Chris on January 24, 2005, 02:08 AM
I tried to do the exact same thing the other day and could not believe it. Total bull****.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: CorranHorn on January 24, 2005, 02:22 AM
yeah it definitely is, since when does ebay require any such records, its not like we actually do the transactions via ebay, once the auction ends, everything is off to the side and they accept checks for payment of auction costs.  ****** assclowns I say!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on January 24, 2005, 10:38 AM
I think it's a security thing now, it may depend what kind of email address you are trying to register with. I know using a Hotmail addy requires a CC.

I just went and had a look at the email change area and it mentioned "Enter a valid email address that you can check immediately. Your change will not take effect until you follow the instructions in an email sent to this email address".

Then it asks to enter the 4 digit number in the box for security purposes.

Did you get the same thing? Do you have a CC on file with them?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Mikey D on January 24, 2005, 10:58 AM
I think it's a security thing now, it may depend what kind of email address you are trying to register with. I know using a Hotmail addy requires a CC.



I think Dale's right with the hotmail account.  I recently tried changing my ebay email using my hotmail account and was told to do the CC thing.  Not wanting to do that, I used my work email and no problems what so ever.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 24, 2005, 11:36 AM
Both Hotmail and Yahoo accounts requie CC information.  Truthfully, I don't blame them.  You can get and make up something entirely fictional on either of those free mail servers with no problems at all.  We've all seen scammers on ebay, I think this is a small and probably ineffecient way to deter them.  There's lots of ways around it and really, when did ebay actually stop someone completely ::)

Blame the scammers, that's why it's there.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: paploo on January 24, 2005, 06:33 PM
i actually changed my account to my comcast because my yahoo one was only being used for ebay and i was tired of checking it. i didnt need a credit card to use my comcast email. i did have a problem logging into paypal so they required a credit card number for changing my password, which i thought was  a bit much but very much appreciated. since everyone of my financial institutions is connected to my paypal account
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: CorranHorn on January 24, 2005, 06:35 PM
well that is interesting, i was trying to change my email to a G-Mail account and it asked for the CC after asking for a 4 digit number like Dale suggested, I'll try my comcast acct and see what happens.

update: yeah you guys were right, it was the e-mail account I was trying to use that caused ebay to ask for CC info. I had no problems whatsoever changing it to my Comcast acct. I can understand why they would want to be careful with those generic e-mail accounts from yahoo, hotmail, gmail, aol, etc, not enough documentation to really verify who someone is. But still to ask for CC info still seems shady to me. thanks for the help guys!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on January 27, 2005, 05:09 PM
Screw a bunch of eBay. I use it to see all the "buy nows", and don't bother auctioning or wasting time with eBay. I'll deal directly with the dealers who have "buy this item now."
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 26, 2005, 05:53 PM
I just noticed that I'm not a "verified" member for using paypal, and they have a spending limit.  This limit goes away if you supply them with a bank account.  I'm guessing they did this so that it protects them from credit card fraud, but my question is, if I give them my account number, can/will they deduct payment directly from my account or from my credit card as it is now?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2005, 12:26 AM
Good question Matt.  I've been just NOW tinkering with Pay Pal.  I don't use PP ever, and rarely use Ebay really (never sold, only bought, and limited in anything I've bought even). 

I verified my account with a bank account, and from what I gathered that I read, they don't take ANYTHING from your account, it's just a protection measure for the "Pay Pal COmmunity".  Others will be able to verify this though.

From what I gathered, fi you wanted to actually pay with Pay-Pal, you had to transfer money FROM your Bank Account to your Pay-Pal Account, which took a couple days, and then you could pay with Pay-Pal by transferring the money you put into your PP account into another Pay-Pal Account...  If that makes sense.

Again, I'm a novice with this.  I dont' use Ebay for much of anything unless I can get it for super cheap but recently found a need to have a PP account so I signed up.  Still have yet to use it.   :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 27, 2005, 11:20 AM
Thanks Jesse.  I've never sold anything on ebay, but I really enjoy the convenience of paypal.  I figured it was just an added security measure for them.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Taminar on June 28, 2005, 01:38 PM
When you go to pay for something on eBay using PayPal, the default will be your bank account, but as you go through the payment process, you'll get the option to change payment source to your credit card.  Now, I've never used any of the quickpay links, so I don't know if they do something different there; I've always just gone to PayPal.com and gone through the usual payment procedure from there.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on June 28, 2005, 07:50 PM
Merged your thread in here with this one Matt.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on August 9, 2005, 03:42 PM
Is it possible to "feedback snipe" on eBay?  I desperately want to leave this ******* seller a negative for our recent transaction (he finally sent, but not without a ton of drama beforehand), but I know if I do, he's gonna give me a retaliatory negative, even though he has absolutely no legitimate reason to do so.

Do you have a month to leave feedback?  So I could wait up until the very last minute and then hit him with a negative, right as his chance to hit me with one would expire?  Is that possible?  Has anyone ever done something like that?

I just hate bogus retaliatory feedbacks on eBay.  I've never gotten one, but I've seen a lot of other people get jacked with them, and it's one of the big problems with their feedback system, since probably half the time people feel they should leave a negative they won't do it 'cause they're afraid of the retaliation.

I've got a flawless feedback rating right now, and I don't really want to jeopardize that on account of some ****head crooked eBay seller...

Thanks!

- M
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on August 9, 2005, 03:57 PM
All of my negative feedback that I have is retalitory. It really sucks. Now I wait till they give me feedback first.

Matt- You have one month from the end of the auction to give feedback. What I would do is wait to the last day and do it then.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 9, 2005, 04:07 PM
You'll have to confirm this elsewhere, but I thought it was 90 days to leave feedback.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on August 9, 2005, 05:02 PM
You'll have to confirm this elsewhere, but I thought it was 90 days to leave feedback.

That's the impression I had as well.  I have left sniped feedback but it's still a gamble.  You never know whent he other person is online checking their own feedback.  I'm also not sure if the feedback option expires 90 days precisely after the end of the auction or at midnight on the 90th day (EST/CST/PST?).  I left it for a guy that crammed a figure in a box that was too small.  His response to my complaint was that I should have told him to pack it carefully.  He listed it as MOMC ::)  Obviously one should never assume.  The guy's not on ebay anymore though, he had 3 feedback, one negative. 

I wish I would have given Andy negative feedback >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on August 9, 2005, 06:01 PM
Alright, I got off my lazy ass and looked it up myself.  Here's the page on leaving feedback (http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/questions/leaving-feedback.html), and it says this:

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From this page, you will be able to leave feedback for other members you've had a transaction with during the past 90 days...

If you need to leave feedback for a transaction that is more than 90 days old, you may do so using the "single transaction form" link located on the Leave Feedback page. Remember, eBay only commits to items being available for 90 days, so if it is greater than 90 days you may not be able to leave feedback.

I also found this link there, which was interesting, but not terribly surprising or helpful:

I received retaliatory negative feedback. Can it be removed? (http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/questions/retaliatory-feedback.html)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ook on August 9, 2005, 06:13 PM
I have left sniped feedback
Ha, I thought of that feedback "sniping" gig, but I'm glad I found out there's no limit on when you can leave FB before I ever tried it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 9, 2005, 07:27 PM
Even if someone leaves you a retalitory negative feedback, you can reply to it.

Whenever I'm looking at a prospective seller's feedback, if I see negatives, I look them up to see what the deal is.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on August 10, 2005, 06:27 AM
You'll have to confirm this elsewhere, but I thought it was 90 days to leave feedback.

Thats what I get for posting tired. It is 90 days.  :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on August 10, 2005, 02:12 PM
Actually it can be more than 90 days. I just left a neutral feedback for an auction that ended back on Feb, 12th/05.

If you still have the item number or if they give you feedback, find the number in your feedback. There was no link to the auction were the number was listed in my feedback but when I did a search on the number, the auction page still showed up. I just copied and pasted the number in the search engine and there it was.

I proceeded to leave a feedback and it worked.  ;D

Try checking out some of your dead number links in your feedback and see how far back you can go, that one was just shy of  6 months.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Bob Crane on August 10, 2005, 02:35 PM
I recently sold this on ebay, now the buyer is complaining that the bubble is “very yellow”


(http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0RgCz*9AVYhk8KghjwAIdCaGvF25tMdUv1JEqGSvErv5BAm5Xicf!IoBGrj7z96NdO4nnkM8AFu4qU5o4NgBqPLFH6K61nFmgfejbwrkJYV0/lukebubble.jpg?dc=4675534449702933688)

WTF!!! >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 10, 2005, 09:59 PM
Dude....look at the Hair.....you can see how yellow it is!   ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ook on August 11, 2005, 12:56 AM
Here's the link for leaving feedback after any amount of time (so long as the other party is still an active member; I wanted to leave a negative for some ******* who got kicked after not paying for a bunch of wins.).

LINK (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?LeaveFeedbackShow&item=0&useridfrom=default&useridto=default&nflw=2&transactid=0)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on August 14, 2005, 08:02 PM
Even if someone leaves you a retalitory negative feedback, you can reply to it.

Whenever I'm looking at a prospective seller's feedback, if I see negatives, I look them up to see what the deal is.

I try and do that as well, but sometimes you run into someone that has 1000 feedbacks and you have to go through pages and pages just to find the negatives. I've written in to ebay and told them they should have a tab that lets you just look at the negative feedback, the way they have the "left for sellers" and "left for buyers" tabs. That would help (or hurt, depending on who you are) a hell of a lot.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on August 15, 2005, 01:01 AM
Can someone please explain to me why people need to have their feedback listed as "private"? Why in the world would ebay allow people to do such a thing? If ebay claims that their entire website/business is based on trusting other people not to rip you off, why would you allow people to hide their feedback from buyers/sellers? It's obvious they've got some bad **** being said about themselves in there, otherwise they wouldn't hide it. Shouldn't ebay want the other members of the community to be aware of people like that, that are just going to take their money and not send them items, or that list items that are not what they seem?

I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 15, 2005, 01:05 AM
Me neither, Dave.  Like you said, if someone decides to make their feedback private, something fishy is going on.  For me, it's a red flag not to touch anything they sell with a 10 ft pole.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on September 24, 2005, 05:32 PM
Quick question here that hopefully someone who's eBay (selling) savvy can hopefully help me with ASAP:

How do you end an auction early?  I'm selling something for the first time EVER on eBay, since we wound up with an extra pair of tickets to the Eagles concert at Staples Center tonight.  I mentioned that I may end the auction early if time becomes a factor for a potential buyer, since the auction end is 5pm, but the concert starts at 8pm.

But now that I'm looking at my auction, I don't see any options for ending it early anywhere.  Where is it?  Or am I screwed...?

Help me!  :P

- Matt
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JohnH on September 24, 2005, 06:20 PM
You can do one of two things. 

1) Go to your My eBay page.  In your Selling list, there should is an "Action" column.  Click on the arrow and select "End Auction Early"

2) Go here and type in your auction number - http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?EndingMyAuction

Hope this helps.

John
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMAC on September 24, 2005, 06:41 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ben on September 30, 2005, 12:37 AM
Does anyone know how to close a Paypal account? Somebody just tried to fleece me for $190, and I need to know how to close one. Paypal's site didn't have anything I could find about the subject, and now I'm fretting about it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on October 3, 2005, 11:12 PM
Ben, try removing your credit card and/or bank account info from your account. Don't know if it will work or not, but it's worth a shot (and that's all I could come up with).

Ya know what I love about ebay? People who win your auction, and then e-mail you and ask you every day if you've received their payment yet and shipped out their item.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ben on October 3, 2005, 11:17 PM
That's what I did. I couldn't sleep at all Thursday night thinking about it, so I went to the bank Friday morning and declared that card a hot card, and if anyone tries to use it, they're in for a surprise.

I think I'm going to close the account anyway. I don't do that much buying on the intarweb anymore, and the security risks are just too ******* high and Paypal doesn't do a goddamn thing about it besides say it was a fraudulent email.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 11, 2005, 04:12 PM
I hope I don't let anyone down by outing this auction:  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Unique-and-Unusual-Heart-Shaped-Potato-Must-See_W0QQitemZ5633453941QQcategoryZ1468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/60/1e/00_1.JPG)

Starting bid is $1.99 - don't wait, this one's gonna go for big bucks!   :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Tracy on November 11, 2005, 04:39 PM
Anakin, you're baking my heart! :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 11, 2005, 04:40 PM
I hope I don't let anyone down by outing this auction:  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Unique-and-Unusual-Heart-Shaped-Potato-Must-See_W0QQitemZ5633453941QQcategoryZ1468QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/60/1e/00_1.JPG)

Starting bid is $1.99 - don't wait, this one's gonna go for big bucks!   :P

Husband: "Oh my gosh!"
Wife: "What honey?"
Husband: "Look what I just got on eBay for the steal of $500! A potato!"
Wife: "I want a divorce."
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on November 11, 2005, 06:00 PM
Anakin, you're baking my heart! :P
:D that's just too much... very, very cute...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 11, 2005, 08:58 PM
Anakin, you're baking my heart! :P

Groan...   :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 3, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'm looking into using some sniping software with eBay, but I'm wondering but the best one is, ie. reliability, ease of use, etc.  Can anyone recommend one to me? 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Cory Chaos on April 4, 2006, 01:52 AM
eSnipe (http://www.esnipe.com)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jayson on April 23, 2006, 11:57 AM
Check out this poor bastard that fell for this scumbag's trickery..

"Rare" Foul Moudama Variant (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6051399200&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D6051399200%26fvi%3D1)

 >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Smartypants1635 on April 23, 2006, 02:12 PM
I feel sorry for the 27 people who believed him
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reid on April 23, 2006, 02:32 PM
Check out this poor bastard that fell for this scumbag's trickery..

"Rare" Foul Moudama Variant (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6051399200&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D6051399200%26fvi%3D1)

 >:(

Holy ****.

Some people are just plain stupid.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on April 23, 2006, 05:09 PM
Hahahaha... it's bad to say, but I have no pity for people who are stupid enough to fall for **** like that. The hard to find "Sega" variant? He doesn't have Sega on him anywhere...

I hate it when people put something in the title of their crappy auction just to get people to click on it... like this one:

STAR WARS COMMANDER CODY YODA #19 JEDI (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-COMMANDER-CODY-YODA-19-JEDI_W0QQitemZ6052580519QQcategoryZ101610QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It's just an auction for a crappy ROTS #19 Yoda... but this ******* has to put Commander Cody in the title so that when people search for commander cody, his auction pops up. Ebay should ban people for doing stupid **** like that.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Chris on April 23, 2006, 05:12 PM
I hate it when people put something in the title of their crappy auction just to get people to click on it... like this one:

STAR WARS COMMANDER CODY YODA #19 JEDI (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-COMMANDER-CODY-YODA-19-JEDI_W0QQitemZ6052580519QQcategoryZ101610QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It's just an auction for a crappy ROTS #19 Yoda... but this ******* has to put Commander Cody in the title so that when people search for commander cody, his auction pops up. Ebay should ban people for doing stupid **** like that.

I just sent him an e-mail and called him on it. Depending on what he says I'll report it to ebay and hopefully they do something about it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jayson on April 23, 2006, 05:19 PM
Hahahaha... it's bad to say, but I have no pity for people who are stupid enough to fall for **** like that. The hard to find "Sega" variant? He doesn't have Sega on him anywhere...


He might have meant "Saga", but that's no excuse. But by typing "Sega" is another indicator that it's just an f'ing scalper, too busy hoarding Hot Wheels Treasure Hunts in his ******* to know any better.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on April 23, 2006, 07:02 PM
Hahahaha... it's bad to say, but I have no pity for people who are stupid enough to fall for **** like that. The hard to find "Sega" variant? He doesn't have Sega on him anywhere...

I hate it when people put something in the title of their crappy auction just to get people to click on it... like this one:

STAR WARS COMMANDER CODY YODA #19 JEDI (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-COMMANDER-CODY-YODA-19-JEDI_W0QQitemZ6052580519QQcategoryZ101610QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It's just an auction for a crappy ROTS #19 Yoda... but this ******* has to put Commander Cody in the title so that when people search for commander cody, his auction pops up. Ebay should ban people for doing stupid **** like that.

Nice, 30 cents more to ship the figure than what it costs at Walmarts across america.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Smartypants1635 on April 23, 2006, 07:41 PM
ITs the Saga Yoda not Rots (I kow its a repack) I found like 20 of him at my local stores no one wants him, Hard to find huh ::).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Chris on April 23, 2006, 08:35 PM
He came out and admitted it, so I reported him.

Quote
its only listed this way for marketing purposes, so more people see it, often when an item is hot, it helps to list other items with a specific name in the title,
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reid on April 23, 2006, 08:36 PM

STAR WARS COMMANDER CODY YODA #19 JEDI (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-COMMANDER-CODY-YODA-19-JEDI_W0QQitemZ6052580519QQcategoryZ101610QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It's just an auction for a crappy ROTS #19 Yoda... but this ******* has to put Commander Cody in the title so that when people search for commander cody, his auction pops up. Ebay should ban people for doing stupid **** like that.

Man, I know I'm gonna kick myself for not bidding on it, its so hard to come by these days...

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on April 23, 2006, 08:39 PM
Check out this poor bastard that fell for this scumbag's trickery..

"Rare" Foul Moudama Variant (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6051399200&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D6051399200%26fvi%3D1)

 >:(

Unfortunately that ******* lives out here by me. He always makes trouble every morning at store openings.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on April 23, 2006, 09:44 PM
A fool and his money...  :-X  :D

"What I bought on Ebay" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MWKoSurEnU&search=ebay)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on April 23, 2006, 11:05 PM
He came out and admitted it, so I reported him.

Quote
its only listed this way for marketing purposes, so more people see it, often when an item is hot, it helps to list other items with a specific name in the title,

Good one Chris, I was going to do just that... but then I had to go out and forgot about it. Maybe I should report him too...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on April 26, 2006, 10:09 AM
Know what the biggest problem right now with ebay is? And I guess I shouldn't even say "right now" because it's been going on since forever...

But it's people who overcharge for shipping to make up for selling an item at a "decent" price. I won an auction a week or so back, and the guy charged me $12 to ship 2 figures. $12!! From Virginia to New Jersey, priority mail... $12. The package arrived with a stamp from the P.O. that had $4.20 on it. Man, did he get a nasty email. I knew that it was too much for shipping, but I didn't know how much.

I sent a package to Washington - probably about as far away from NJ you can get within the Continental US - with two Simpsons THOH playsets in it - and those are pretty heavy - and it cost me $15.

Now last nite, I won a few auctions from the same seller. Yeah, I overpaid for a few hard to find figures, and a few UGH figures... but I thought the price was pretty fair considering that I can't find any of these in stores and no one apparently has any extras they are willing to sell at cost. So I end up with a total of 12 figures from this one seller. He contacts me this morning with a total price, and the shipping cost is $23. I wrote him an email and asked him if he was serious. $23!! From Ohio to NJ, there's no way I'm paying $23 for shipping.

The part that sucks about that is he's probably not going to change his pricing, so he's now going to leave me negative feedback stating that I'm a non-paying bidder. And that's ****** up.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ruiner on April 28, 2006, 05:54 PM
Yeah, that's the thing about winning multiple auctions.  95% of sellers will combine shipping for you, but you really never know how "cool" they're going to be about it.

Today I shipped some stuff out that costs $44 vs. the $40 quote I charged the buyer.  I guess I'd rather have the reputation as a generous seller than a shady ******* that makes money off the shipping only.

Oh yeah, I threw in a free figure too!

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jokabofe on April 28, 2006, 06:34 PM
Today I shipped some stuff out that costs $44 vs. the $40 quote I charged the buyer.  I guess I'd rather have the reputation as a generous seller than a shady ******* that makes money off the shipping only.

Yeah, I can't tell you how many times I've ripped myself off by not charging enough shipping. I've actually started "overcharging" and refunding the difference by mail, it's just easier on my wallet that way.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on May 3, 2006, 10:25 PM
This guy can't decide if he selling a George Lucas Spice (Sage) or a video game system (Sega)

Funny (http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-STAR-WARS-SAGE-GEORGE-LUCAS-MAIL-IN-FIGURE_W0QQitemZ6055564171QQcategoryZ50266QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ryan on May 3, 2006, 10:30 PM
This guy can't decide if he selling a George Lucas Spice (Sage) or a video game system (Sega)

Funny (http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-STAR-WARS-SAGE-GEORGE-LUCAS-MAIL-IN-FIGURE_W0QQitemZ6055564171QQcategoryZ50266QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

What makes it even funnier is that it says SAGA in huge silver lettering right there on the front.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ryan on May 15, 2006, 04:43 PM
I hate it when people put something in the title of their crappy auction just to get people to click on it... like this one:

STAR WARS COMMANDER CODY YODA #19 JEDI (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-COMMANDER-CODY-YODA-19-JEDI_W0QQitemZ6052580519QQcategoryZ101610QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It's just an auction for a crappy ROTS #19 Yoda... but this ******* has to put Commander Cody in the title so that when people search for commander cody, his auction pops up. Ebay should ban people for doing stupid **** like that.

I just sent him an e-mail and called him on it. Depending on what he says I'll report it to ebay and hopefully they do something about it.

Here's another guy that is doing the same thing. (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtcampos22QQhtZ-1) All his auctions have UGH, Yoda, Vader, ToyFare Vader, Saga, ROTS, or Variant in the title somewhere. And none of them are the said item.

This guy is also trying to cash in on the UGH craze. (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZstar_waresQQhtZ-1) But the decieveing thing about his is he will put UGH next to some of the figures that would be UGH, but the picture clearly shows the regular version. It isn't just the wrong picture either. He has got some auctions for a UGH Gummi Mundi. ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Roton7 on May 15, 2006, 09:49 PM
About that #19 Yoda, it seems the title has been changed back to the real name of the crap it really is.





 :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on June 16, 2007, 12:57 AM
White Album (http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-ULTRA-RARE-UK-STEREO-WHITE-ALBUM-0000006_W0QQitemZ270128943287QQihZ017QQcategoryZ432QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

and they call us insane for the amount of money we spend  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Ben on June 16, 2007, 01:31 AM
Damn. Now I don't feel so bad paying $25 for the CD of the White Album a few years ago.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: EdSolo on June 18, 2007, 07:17 AM
I am happy with my copy that I believe is labeled 1,000,000 or so.  I wouldn't pay that much for something is just #6 and really not that rare.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on June 19, 2007, 01:51 PM
18,000.00 and the reserve has not yet been met!  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 19, 2007, 06:13 PM
The Anakin(s)?? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-25-Loose-Star-Wars-ROTS-Anakin-Skywalker_W0QQitemZ250132690603QQihZ015QQcategoryZ101609QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Who would be that stupid ???
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Reid on June 19, 2007, 10:05 PM
The Anakin(s)?? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-25-Loose-Star-Wars-ROTS-Anakin-Skywalker_W0QQitemZ250132690603QQihZ015QQcategoryZ101609QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Who would be that stupid ???

Custom fodder.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 19, 2007, 11:26 PM
I better go check the press number on my White Album...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on June 20, 2007, 10:06 AM
Well it ended at $21,411.15.

A bargain!  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 20, 2007, 03:33 PM
The Anakin(s)?? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-25-Loose-Star-Wars-ROTS-Anakin-Skywalker_W0QQitemZ250132690603QQihZ015QQcategoryZ101609QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Who would be that stupid ???

Custom fodder.
No self respecting customizer would touch action features ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 21, 2007, 12:59 AM
Well it ended at $21,411.15.

A bargain!  ::)

I showed that auction to my wife to prove I could be spending a lot more than I already do... ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on June 21, 2007, 02:37 AM
Craziest things on Ebay are the shipping prices the dickhead sellers want these days.  I'm convinced there isn't an honest seller on there anymore.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JohnH on June 21, 2007, 08:55 AM
Craziest things on Ebay are the shipping prices the dickhead sellers want these days.  I'm convinced there isn't an honest seller on there anymore.  ::)

Honestly though, shipping itself has really gone the roof.  I shipped a carded figure with $60 insurance Priority Mail and it cost me better than $8.00.  Add in a box and padding material and suddenly you're near $10 just for a carded figure.  It's outrageous.  :( 

John
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Madcow on June 21, 2007, 09:12 AM
Craziest things on Ebay are the shipping prices the dickhead sellers want these days.  I'm convinced there isn't an honest seller on there anymore.  ::)

Honestly though, shipping itself has really gone the roof.  I shipped a carded figure with $60 insurance Priority Mail and it cost me better than $8.00.  Add in a box and padding material and suddenly you're near $10 just for a carded figure.  It's outrageous.  :( 

John

You are soooo on the money, it's gotten way outta hand with the USPS. Before this rate hike it was pretty reasonable... I was shocked last night when a 1.5lb package I was shipping to Alabama from NJ was costing me almost $2 more than it used to. Unreal...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on June 21, 2007, 10:17 AM
I have to agree the shipping prices are insane on ebay. I know some take advantage, but alot is because of the price hikes. I just sent a letter certified, before the price hike around 2.50, now it cost me 5.75. Probably the last time i do that. I think they really need to rethink the prices they charge.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on June 22, 2007, 02:17 AM
I dunno guys...  Price hikes aside, it's not uncommon to see people flat out asking $20 shipping or so on really small items.  Yeah things went up, but not that bad.  Price gouging through shipping on Ebay isn't a new trend there afterall...  So I find it highly unlikely that with the price hike the gouging has ceased.  It just seems that the price of shipping went up with the hike...  It's to a point it's really outrageous in many auctions, and it's a good reason I don't do as much Ebay shopping for sure.

I'm not immune to shipping hikes either since I ship plenty of stuff in trades, but I think it's pretty clear that many on Ebay are still trying to make up for their lack of profit on auctions by gouging on shipping.  That's my experience anyway.  I don't think the rates going up at the USPS had any impact on the gouging either positive or negative.  Things just moved right along with the price hike.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 22, 2007, 07:01 AM
Absolutely.  I got into a fight with a seller about 6 months ago about this.  I bought a custom figure for about $20 and the guy wanted $26 to ship.  He did have this stated in the auction, but it was hidden in two pages of description and not posted under actual shipping rates.  His excuse, which he sent in an email to me, was that he upped his shiping to pay for raw materials & his blood and sweat in making the custom.  He said he didn't build those costs into an Ebay reserve price because he wanted to avoid the additional Ebay fees.

I refused to pay $46 for a custom figure that I bid $20 on, so I fought this with Ebay and forwarded all of his communication to them.  They have a policy that Shipping can not include any costs that are unrelated to shipping.  You'd think they would side with me based on the guy cheating them out of not only a reserve fee, but their % take on an additional $26 in cost, but they didn't push back on the seller at all.  I ended up not having to pay, but the guy was able to leave me negative feedback and I was not able to leave feedback for him at all.   >:(

I think this is an issue for Ebay to resolve - they can't verify if sellers are really shipping something for $6 when they charge $8, but these obvious chargs like $12 for a loose figure are pretty obvious.  If they don't do anything about, I think they should expect to see purchasing decline significantly over the next year.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on June 26, 2007, 12:11 PM
Good thing i hte baseball

Babe Ruth (http://cgi.ebay.com/BABE-RUTH-UD-Premier-W-Series-Ticket-cut-autograph-1-1_W0QQitemZ300122912713QQihZ020QQcategoryZ55947QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jadesfire on June 26, 2007, 09:01 PM
It'd be cheaper to fly to Dallas and pick up the card!!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 26, 2007, 09:08 PM
Gotta love those questions from members.  ;D

Quote
Q:  Would you accept my first born? or my left testicle as payment? 
A:   I'll check with the card owner and get back to you.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on June 26, 2007, 09:45 PM
$40,100.00 Wow
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on July 2, 2007, 12:53 PM
Headless Iron Man (http://cgi.ebay.com/MARVEL-LEGENDS-HEADLESS-GOLD-IRON-MAN-w-GOLD-FOIL-NR_W0QQitemZ330142822389QQihZ014QQcategoryZ16472QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 19, 2007, 02:00 PM
Headless Iron Man (http://cgi.ebay.com/MARVEL-LEGENDS-HEADLESS-GOLD-IRON-MAN-w-GOLD-FOIL-NR_W0QQitemZ330142822389QQihZ014QQcategoryZ16472QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)  ::)

That is an extremely rare variant. Its from that one time when Tony Stark got his head cut off. Uhhh.... ???
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 19, 2007, 02:59 PM
Absolutely.  I got into a fight with a seller about 6 months ago about this.  I bought a custom figure for about $20 and the guy wanted $26 to ship.  He did have this stated in the auction, but it was hidden in two pages of description and not posted under actual shipping rates.  His excuse, which he sent in an email to me, was that he upped his shiping to pay for raw materials & his blood and sweat in making the custom.  He said he didn't build those costs into an Ebay reserve price because he wanted to avoid the additional Ebay fees.

Hey JJ,

Let me guess the seller. Is the sellers name onlegend? He is a scumbag and a sneak. He hides his shipping cost that varies from $14 to $26 shipping in a multicolored blurb of garble. He ordered a custom from me and never paid. I wrote him back laying in to him about sticking me and I even called him out on his shipping charges, they always bothered me because I knew what he was doing. His Mom wrote me back and got invloved. Guess how old he is? 27! The other scumbag thing he does, his customs do not match those shown in the crappy pics he takes and may vary. If I bought a custom off ebay it better look like the damn photo! I also loves how he charges material cost in shipping. When I sell a custom thats built into the starting price not shipping.

not every seller on ebay is a crook. I myself (ebay id: Jackoftradze) and my best friend stocos28 charge $4.00 for shipping on our custom figures. Usually $1.50-$2.00 actual shipping, .89-1.78 for the padded envelope and money towards bubble wrap, baggies and gas. As I said earlier I start my customs at a price that includes time, ebay fees and material cost - no hidden fees or catches. I and stocos spell everything clear as day. You see shipping before you view the actual auction with us. Many sellers try to hide it. You have to be careful with sellers and buyers for that matter. Many times you get what you pay for. 8 out of 10 customs I sell have very detailed photos. I always pay extra to show large photos and shoot multiple angles so you know what you are buying. I take great pride in what I sell and would never want anyone to feel taken. My feedback speaks for itself there and her. So not every ebay seller is out to get you, we want you to buy again. I have several followers who trust that.

My postal cost has doubled so USPS rates have been felt by everyone. Its one thing to raise prices but to charge $20 for a loose figure is absurd and is a moral crime.

Onlegend's work is trash anyway, the regular custom buyers seem to have caught on to his hidden fees. I love his descriptions in his auctions like:wwyd "what would yoda do" and my favorite: red saber shown is not included because they are rare. ??? Say what? Red sabers rare, ok. Also look for his line of: the actual figure shown is what you call a "prototype" your figure may vary". Its a custom not a production figure prototype my ass!

Can you tell I hate this guy?

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 20, 2007, 09:06 AM
Hey JJ,

Let me guess the seller. Is the sellers name onlegend? He is a scumbag and a sneak. He hides his shipping cost that varies from $14 to $26 shipping in a multicolored blurb of garble. He ordered a custom from me and never paid. I wrote him back laying in to him about sticking me and I even called him out on his shipping charges, they always bothered me because I knew what he was doing. His Mom wrote me back and got invloved. Guess how old he is? 27! The other scumbag thing he does, his customs do not match those shown in the crappy pics he takes and may vary. If I bought a custom off ebay it better look like the damn photo! I also loves how he charges material cost in shipping. When I sell a custom thats built into the starting price not shipping.
Can you tell I hate this guy?

OMG!  You described my experience perfectly!  This is the same guy - shipping is never listed under shipping terms, its hidden somewhere on page 5 of his 10 page item description.  He flat out told me that he charges so much for shipping to avoid paying Ebay fees on a larger sell price.  His mom (or him acting as his mom) wrote back to me several times as well.  Glad to know that the customs don't match what's pictured, since I didn't end up buying from him.  my only regret is that Ebay somehow allowed him to give me negative feedback, but I couldn't leave negatives for him.  There are few people in the world that I actually 'hate' but this guy is right up near the top of my list.  >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2007, 02:28 PM
"He flat out told me that he charges so much for shipping to avoid paying Ebay fees on a larger sell price.  "

Save the email and contact eBay about it.

That's flat out against their rules and he can have his account canceled should they feel so inclined.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 20, 2007, 05:44 PM
OMG how pathetic, he is like Norman bates. I went through 5 emails with "Mother" so it was his way of weaseling out. His "Mom" also talked about how much he made as a surveyor.  You should report him but is it worth your time? I would not waste time on this clown.

JJ, when I read your experience I knew exactly who it was. And now I really know what he is. Spread the word beware the legend of onlegend!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2007, 10:33 PM
"He flat out told me that he charges so much for shipping to avoid paying Ebay fees on a larger sell price.  "

Save the email and contact eBay about it.

That's flat out against their rules and he can have his account canceled should they feel so inclined.

I did...that's the part that has me so pissed.  I contacted Ebay immedaitely, forwarded all of me email with his direct quotes about cheating them and trying to pay less in fees and they did NOTHING.  After 3-4 emails trying to follow-up with them, I finally just gave up.  The seller left ME negative feedback for not paying like $25 shipping on a loose figure and since I didn't pay, the system wouldn't let me leave any negative feedback for him.  Ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: name on August 1, 2007, 09:06 AM
This is officially my favorite ebay seller (http://search.express.ebay.com/merchant/prettyhottie2000_W0QQ_pgnZ2QQ_tosZ1).

Definitely worth browsing her....items.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: hansolo_506 on August 1, 2007, 01:29 PM
Very interesting seller.  Seems to keep describing after describing the items in question.  I noticed a lot of interesting "backgrounds" during the mad rush of Nintendo Wii's and PS3s when they hit the market.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: name on August 1, 2007, 02:21 PM
bummer part is that i checked her feedback, just to see what else she'd been selling.....she's recently bought a pack of preggers tests and bottle of prenate vitamins.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on August 3, 2007, 11:16 PM
bummer part is that i checked her feedback, just to see what else she'd been selling.....she's recently bought a pack of preggers tests and bottle of prenate vitamins.

See that is soemthing i cant see buying on ebay.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Tracy on September 5, 2007, 04:05 PM
A fun little auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130144061675&ru=http%3A%252)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedismack on September 5, 2007, 06:27 PM
A fun little auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130144061675&ru=http%3A%252)

That is crazy my sons have a bunch of those things maybe I should try to sell them.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: I Am Sith on September 5, 2007, 10:13 PM
A fun little auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130144061675&ru=http%3A%252)

Man I thought I had it bad with a 2 and 3 year old at the grocery store...  I can't begin to imagine.  I actually laughed out load at the comment '...I'm thinking about selling one or two of them...'

Thanks for sharing that Tracy, I needed a laugh tonight...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on September 11, 2007, 09:11 PM
Ok someone explain this one to me.

Captain EO plush toy (http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Captain-Eo-disney-plush-toy_W0QQitemZ200149531596QQihZ010QQcategoryZ142QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on September 12, 2007, 12:45 PM
Ok someone explain this one to me.

Captain EO plush toy (http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Captain-Eo-disney-plush-toy_W0QQitemZ200149531596QQihZ010QQcategoryZ142QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I can't even figure out the angle of that picture.  Looks like someone's selling a feather duster to me...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: name on September 13, 2007, 08:31 AM
it's one of these:

(http://i16.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/b5/9a/8edd_2.JPG)

that one has a starting bid of $3.99 for all you investors looking for an amazing bargain.   ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 13, 2007, 08:36 PM
A fun little auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130144061675&ru=http%3A%252)

Thanks for posting that Tracy

So true the comments about amputated feet from cart VS ankle crashes. The reality of it shopping with kids in writing was very humorous!

The DS
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Tracy on October 3, 2007, 02:09 PM
I have something to confess -- I am a virgin.  I have never bought or sold anything on eBay. :-[  I am at wits end at finding an orange jumpsuit so I can start making my six year old's Luke/X-Wing Pilot costume this year.  I finally found something I can use on eBay -- how do I buy it?  Help me -- you guys are my only hope :)

Linkey (http://cgi.ebay.com/SPACE-SHUTTLE-ASTRONAUT-PILOT-DRESS-UP-COSTUME-6X-8-10_W0QQitemZ110171818905QQihZ001QQcategoryZ80913QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Why couldn't he just be a Jedi again? ::)

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jadesfire on October 3, 2007, 06:10 PM
Are you registered on Ebay yet?  If not, that's your first step.  If you are, then the buyer's feedback is fantastic so you can either bid the opening price or just put down a bid for what you would pay for it.  If you'd only go as high as $20.00, then you can put in $20.00.  It will start you out at $9.99 and as others bid, it will keep you as the high bidder until someone else goes over your maximum amount (in this case, the $20 bucks).  You can always re-bid and you get email notifications if you do get outbid so you might want to use an email you check frequently when you register with Ebay.  Once it's over and you've won, you need to follow the instructions on how the seller would like payment.  You need to pay close attention to auctions because some (like myself) only take paypal or money orders and some might only use paypal....which takes a few days to set up.  I am sure I am missing some finer points here but I think this is a pretty safe auction and Hilliard is close by me so if you get ripped off, I'll show up at their door and get it for ya  ;) ;D.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on October 17, 2007, 01:08 PM
El Captain Ray (http://cgi.ebay.com/dc-comics-super-hero-figure-moc-marvel-comics-batman_W0QQitemZ150171185480QQihZ005QQcategoryZ82492QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Nice to actually see that, but i think it looks too good / new.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JohnH on November 27, 2007, 02:17 AM
The biggest ******* on eBay? (http://cgi.ebay.com/lot-of-NEW-action-figures-play-scenes_W0QQitemZ290183071568QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2474QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I'll be monitoring his auctions and asking the magical question for each item he puts up.  :)  Anyone else game?

John
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 27, 2007, 02:24 AM
The biggest ******* on eBay? (http://cgi.ebay.com/lot-of-NEW-action-figures-play-scenes_W0QQitemZ290183071568QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2474QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I'll be monitoring his auctions and asking the magical question for each item he puts up.  :)  Anyone else game?

John

Yep, definite *******.

Oh, this could be fun.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on November 27, 2007, 08:29 AM
What a pleasant guy.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Tracy on January 4, 2008, 06:44 AM
What a dumbass (http://www.switched.com/2007/12/28/man-caught-ebaying-stolen-goods-from-work/) ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 29, 2008, 03:43 PM
For those that buy and sell on eBay, there are several changes coming soon. Most notable are the feedback changes.

http://pages.ebay.com/sell/update08/rewards/index.html?ov=004KO

Some of the changes are ok, but I think some of the other ones are going to cause a stir.

While I'm a buyer and not a seller, I still don't think it's fair that buyers will now only be able to receive positive feedback. So I guess for sellers, their only option is to not leave feedback at all if they have a negative or neutral transaction with a buyer.

Also, eliminating feedback older than 12 months isn't fair to long term eBay users.

-Sal

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: iFett on January 29, 2008, 03:50 PM
Also, eliminating feedback older than 12 months isn't fair to long term eBay users.

That really sucks...I was pretty hard core into Ebay from 02-05, but now I usually only buy/bid on a few things a year.  Oh well, back to being a n00b.   :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2008, 04:36 PM
I rarely use Ebay because it's mostly a scam where you get raped on shipping but I agree with you on all accounts Sal, as far as the feedback goes.  What's the positive in eliminating seller's rights to leave negative feedback on buyers?  And what's the point of elmininating old feedback?

Like I said, I rarely use it, so I'm sure a lot of my feedback is going to be erased.  I'll go 6 months without using my account...  So if I lose my feedback I'm just going to basically stop using the service I think.  Not worth it at this point.

They NEED to buckle down on shipping rapers before they do this other crap...  I was looking at an auction last night I wanted and the guy wanted $20 something for shipping on a box I know cannot way more than 6 lbs., and we're both in the US.  He said that's the actual cost...  Horse ****.

Ebay's a scam at this point.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 29, 2008, 04:41 PM
Overcharges on shipping is one of my major complaints. It's kept me from bidding on MANY an auction.

Problem is there is almost always some nut out there who will eat the shipping cost to get the item.

I know I can get a CASE of figures (carded and mint) shipped to me for $7. So why just one LOOSE figure for $5 shipping from some sellers? Oh, some try and sweeten the deal by combining shipping so you don't feel the sting of the first one so much, if you're bidding on multiple items. But what happens if you only end up winning ONE of those auctions. You sure as hell feel the sting then.

IIRC,  there is a distinct policy against overcharging for shipping. I think buyers can report that to eBay. Also, IIRC, eBay doesn't make money on the shipping fees, so it's in their best interest as well to go after sellers who maintain that practice of overcharging for shipping.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jeff on January 29, 2008, 04:59 PM
Also, eliminating feedback older than 12 months isn't fair to long term eBay users.

And what's the point of elmininating old feedback?

Like I said, I rarely use it, so I'm sure a lot of my feedback is going to be erased. 

Actually, it says:

"Feedback more than 12-months old won't count towards your Feedback percentage"

It is just the "feedback percent" that is changing.  Your overall feedback score shouldn't change. 

From the eBay FAQ (http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/new.html) on the changes:

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Will the change to the Feedback percentage, basing it on 12 months, also impact my Feedback score?

The Feedback score (count of all Feedback earned) will continue to be based on all Feedback earned by the member since registration, except those withdrawn, de-scored or removed.

This is just a way for mega-sellers to get their "100%" ratings back, even if they get dinged with the occasional bad feedback...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2008, 05:24 PM
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"Feedback more than 12-months old won't count towards your Feedback percentage"

Ah, ok, I didn't read the article and just went off what Sal had mentioned...  That's not so bad.  I have a single bad feedback from a guy I had trouble with when I started out on Ebay, and it's lingered forever since then.  So this isn't actually that bad for me... 

Still don't use the service much because of the sneaky ways sellers try to screw you over, but not losing my feedback is a good thing, as I'm definitely out of that racket if I don't have feedback for myself.  I go 6 months at a time minimum between purchases there usually.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 29, 2008, 05:44 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Jeff.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on January 29, 2008, 06:15 PM
The Feedback ratings have had so many problems for so long they don't really concern me at this point.  I'm just really angry over the final value fees.  The fact that eBay also owns PayPal burns me even more.


   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BrentS on January 29, 2008, 06:44 PM

I know I can get a CASE of figures (carded and mint) shipped to me for $7. So why just one LOOSE figure for $5 shipping from some sellers? Oh, some try and sweeten the deal by combining shipping so you don't feel the sting of the first one so much, if you're bidding on multiple items. But what happens if you only end up winning ONE of those auctions. You sure as hell feel the sting then.


I think the big problem with this is that the online sellers use UPS and 99% of ebayers use USPS.  The US Postage rates have gone up a lot through the last couple of years.  It really can cost about $6-8 to ship a box with a carded figure once you get delivery confirmation, etc.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: EdSolo on January 30, 2008, 07:30 AM
$5 for shipping one figure is about the going rate, if the shipper uses priority mail.  The minimum priority mail is about $4.55 and delivery confirmation is $0.70 for a total of $5.25.  Also, etailers might get bulk rates, but I know NewForce ships cases via UPS for around $8 to $10.  Usually, their cost plus shipping is the same price as the just the cost for most other etailers.

The one thing that surprises me about ebay not cracking down on shipping is that there are so many auctions now that hurt ebay.  I see a lot of $1 Buy it Now auctions with $100 shipping.  Ebay only makes money on the listing and a percentage of the $1 instead of percentage on the $100.  I would think they would crack down on stuff like that at least.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on January 30, 2008, 08:47 AM
I'm pretty much done with Ebay. I just received 2 netural feedbacks saying I was slow in paying (I paid 2 days after the auction ended) and the guy gouged me big time on shipping. $10 bucks for two X-Box games. Which I'm sure he'll send first class mail. ::) I'm tired of dealing with tools like that.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JangoTat on January 30, 2008, 08:58 AM
just a question. what is soo bad about first class mailing? i want to buy one of the EE mando packs online and the cheapest is first class at $10. good or bad thing?  i have never bought anything on ebay before..
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on January 30, 2008, 09:05 AM
First class just takes longer is all. I was only bitching about it due to the fact it shouldn't cost 10 bucks to ship out two games.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 30, 2008, 12:03 PM
I just wish the Post Office would do away with Parcel Post and First class altogether. There's barely a price difference, so I usually opt for First class when shipping something. Heck, most of the postal employees I've talked to want the two to be merged into one.

It should be merged and called "Standard Post." Keeping it "First Class" implies there is a lesser class postage.

So then if someone REALLY wants to send it faster, they can choose Priority Mail.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2008, 01:15 AM
I am sick to my stomach about feedback 3.0, the stupid stars were bad enough back in May.

The new ebay feedback is the biggest bunch of BS and it leave sellers like me too vunerable. Like this site, I have a killer rating of 710+(Actually 1469) 99.9%, a 4.8 DSR and learned along time ago not to leave feedback for buyers until they leave it for you. That's when the transaction is truly over. I have been blackmailed a few times over the years, thus I adopted that strategy as many sellers do. It worked out just fine and 99% of buyers never complained. I have always shipped promply, answered questions and left feedback after it was received by the buyer. eBay wants Buyers to leave feedback in 3 days after the transaction????? How in the hell can you ship something in 3 days? Will the buyer screw you shipping rating or leave you a negative because you did not drive to his house to deliver the **** within 3 days after they paid?

This really scares me and turns me off to selling, I worked really hard to build my business/feedback up. On top of that they raised prices through the roof as MJ pointed out which is the real foot up sellers you know what. And this new system is suppose to help their slumping sales and encoourage buyers? It's going to encourage scammers!

This is really going to dent my custom biz and hurt sellers. It's too discouraging and will erode feedback's meaning. After awhile every seller will have several negatives when they did not deserve them. There are too many bad buyers out there who do not read auction details. Many are hot headed and react out of anger, want it cheaper than they bid, take forever to pay then whine about the item shipping late when they paid 2 days before. I have had buyers complain on $4.00 shipping for a custom figure, my standard charge that is clearly noted. I ship first class which ranges from $1.63-$1.87 for one then I have to buy a $2 bubble wrap envelope, regular bubble wrap, then take it to the PO. I even state handling fees are included..the whole .13-.30 worth! My shipping is more than fair.

Most of my buyers a great, but now ebay sellers are left with no line of defense, it's destroying the foundation of ebay's roots of Buyer/Seller trust. ebay never punishes bad buyers, just sellers, paypal is far worse. The Buyer is not always right, I know there are bad sellers too but this idea of Socailism on ebay is sickening, why should good sellers be made to suffer? Not everyone is equal why do I have to pay for idiots on both sides?

In the end Buyers will be the ones to pay because now I will have to raise my shipping by a buck & raise the merchandise price to pay the whacked out ebay fees and demand tracking money for every package to protect myself. I use to have DC/tracking as optional to keep shipping low as can be.

My rant is done now.......
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jeff on January 31, 2008, 09:39 AM
eBay wants Buyers to leave feedback in 3 days after the transaction?????

Where did you see that?  The only change for buyers I saw is that they have to wait at least 3 days to post negative feedback.  I don't see anything that says they have to leave feedback within 3 days...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 31, 2008, 10:36 AM
Well they say, Buyers must wait 3 days before leaving negative or neutral Feedback for sellers with an established track record, to encourage communication.

Now it doesn't say when the 3 days begin. Does that begin at auction close?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 31, 2008, 10:41 AM
By the way, if buyers can only receive positive feedback how does the seller report nonpaying and problem making buyers? No negative feedback makes the buyer's rating completely worthless. Every buyer is now completely suspect.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2008, 12:57 PM
By the way, if buyers can only receive positive feedback how does the seller report nonpaying and problem making buyers? No negative feedback makes the buyer's rating completely worthless. Every buyer is now completely suspect.

EXACTLY!

If a buyer can wait only 3 days before he can leave negative/neutral feedback, who is to stop him from leaving it anyway if he does not get the item in 3 days from the time the auction ends or pays. What happens if he takes 3 days to pay? And what if you ship after he pays and he gets impatient leaving a negative because he felt you should have shipped before he paid?
Sellers can now get tons of unwarranted negatives with unrealistic expectations from the new crop of buyers. We are too unprotected from all angles and we also have to pay more...great change ebay, way to go! I am sure this will be great for business!

This is a F@#king disaster.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 31, 2008, 01:54 PM
If you look at it from the buyer's point of view, the buyer can now be totally honest about the seller without fear of getting their own rating dinged. (since they don't have a real rating anymore)

For example, the seller completely botches the deal. The buyer puts down that the seller was slow to ship. In reality he was slow to ship. It took the seller a month to go to the post office and ship the item after receiving payment. The seller then can lie and put negative feedback on the buyer saying payment was late when in reality payment was made within minutes of the close of auction. There is no way to prove the seller wrong and ebay won't retract the negative feedback.

This is exactly what happen to me when I bought from one person and why my percentage is 99.7% instead of 100%. Ebay doesn't retract feedback without alot of red tape and phone calls. If the seller never ships the item, paypal will do absolutely nothing about it even after registring the complaint.

The only defense the buyer has on a bad seller is to call their credit card company and do a charge back on the seller. This messes up the seller's credit rating. If the credit card company won't do the charge back, the buyer can close their credit card account. This instantly gets the problem elevated at the credit card company and they will do the charge back since they don't want to lose a customer. Now Paypal has to accept the charge back by trying to get proof of shipment from the seller. I think the credit card company can force the charge back on paypal even if they don't accept it. I could be wrong though.

Basically, I'm trying to say their is nothing ebay or paypal will do in a dispute. The seller is always going to lose if the buyer goes to the credit card company. Seller ratings only scare away potential customers.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: bamaker on January 31, 2008, 02:32 PM
If you look at it from the buyer's point of view, the buyer can now be totally honest about the seller without fear of getting their own rating dinged. (since they don't have a real rating anymore).

The only thing I would point out is that this goes against eBay's business model, and advertising slogan that people are honest and trustworthy and you have nothing to worry about when you use eBay.  Meaning, there's no need to fear getting your rating dinged; go ahead and be totally honest about the seller; he/she will be totally honest about you, too -- and there should be no worries because both parties are trustworthy.  (We all know there are dishonest folks on eBay, but if you assume they're all dishonest then the whole system falls apart, so let's not pursue that any further.)  The system is based on trust.  Period.  But now eBay is saying, okay some people are dishonest, and by swaying the favor so heavily towards the buyer eBay is implying that the only dishonest people are the sellers, and should be treated with caution. 

I've been selling on eBay for about 8 years now and have had my fair share of shifty buyers, but I've never once thought the whole system needs to be "fixed" to protect me from the "evil Buyer".  I understand there are a few bad seeds, but by and large the vast majority of the buyers are honest, average people, and I had no qualms about selling on eBay.  As a seller, I would hope the buyers would see me the same way and trust my decency.

But eBay is now implying all sellers are out to ding your rating, they're a shady lot -- WATCH OUT!  That they're all dishonest.  (And now the system will start to fall apart.)

I am now seriously looking for other options for moving the vast majority of my Star Wars items (you'll probably soon see listings on this and many other collecting forums).

Just my two-cents...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2008, 02:43 PM
If you look at it from the buyer's point of view, the buyer can now be totally honest about the seller without fear of getting their own rating dinged. (since they don't have a real rating anymore)

For example, the seller completely botches the deal. The buyer puts down that the seller was slow to ship. In reality he was slow to ship. It took the seller a month to go to the post office and ship the item after receiving payment. The seller then can lie and put negative feedback on the buyer saying payment was late when in reality payment was made within minutes of the close of auction. There is no way to prove the seller wrong and ebay won't retract the negative feedback.

MP,
with all due respect, I heard this argument from the buyers side before and I will tell you why I do not buy it for a minute. For starters, that's why the DSR rating was created in the first place, to give more detailed honest info about how the seller handled the transaction without fear of feedback retaliation.

If the seller is that slow with shipping and has very low star ratings you would know that off the bat. Sometimes honest mistakes happen and any good seller would/should compensate the buyer should that happen. But when mistakes from UPS & USPS occur that you have no control over, do you deserve low ratings? Or a negative?

Say for instance you are a seller who charges insurance separately from the base shipping price and clearly state all of this in the auction. The lsting reads clear as day that "it's up to the buyer to elect & pay for the insurance". If they do not elect to get it they take the full risk/responsibility of the item getting lost or damaged - it's on them.
Say the buyer takes the risk not getting the insurance and the item is lost in transit. They then turn around threatening you to return their money or they will leave you a negative if you do not. It becomes a game of EXTORTION when they opted out of your clear auction terms in the first palce and did not want to pay the extra charge. The seller is stuck!

This is exactly what happen to me when I bought from one person and why my percentage is 99.7% instead of 100%. Ebay doesn't retract feedback without alot of red tape and phone calls. If the seller never ships the item, paypal will do absolutely nothing about it even after registring the complaint.

This is incorrect if you pay with paypal as a buyer, you are 100% covered. Paypal sides with buyers 99.9% of the time and would give the buyer back his money. I just went through this with a used laptop I sold. I spelled out every flaw on it, marked it as used condition and took large clear pics of it. When the buyer got the laptop, he stated item not as received because it had some scratches which were noted in the auction & pictures. Paypal with held the funds and gave them back to the buyer. I was scammed, as are many other sellers. If you paid with a MO or check that's a different story but if you are a buyer paying with paypal you can do no wrong.
You are correct if a buyer pays with a credit card, the seller would lose. Feedback was the only minor defense sellers had against and to warn against bad buyers.

Buyers should have their own star ratings as well but as I said before they can do no wrong more so than ever. I see so many buyers with 40% below feedback and they are still allowed to buy. It's insane and the risk is no greater than ever for sellers with added costs to boot. They will drive sellers away.

The playing field was even before, with more on the buyers side but it was doable and worked out fine.Now sellers are really handicapped and the floodgates of scams are opened and so many hardworking sellers years of feedback are going to be raped. It will happen.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2008, 03:09 PM
But eBay is now implying all sellers are out to ding your rating, they're a shady lot -- WATCH OUT!  That they're all dishonest.  (And now the system will start to fall apart.)

I am now seriously looking for other options for moving the vast majority of my Star Wars items (you'll probably soon see listings on this and many other collecting forums).

Just my two-cents...

I will buy you two-cents, well said.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 1, 2008, 11:14 AM
...This is incorrect if you pay with paypal as a buyer, you are 100% covered. Paypal sides with buyers 99.9% of the time and would give the buyer back his money....

No offense Jack, but that's a load of bunk from my experience.

I've been screwed over by three sellers before. In one instance I got NOTHING back from eBay/Paypal. In the other two I was lucky to get half the eBay auction amount and NONE of the shipping amount back, yet eBay OWNS Paypal and it was Paypal I filed the grievance with.

One problem I had with one of the sellers is that their auction stated they get tracking and delivery confirmation on all packages. It was going on 4 weeks after I paid for the auction (it was a BIN, so I paid for it immediately) and I still hadn't recieved my item. When I asked for a scan of the receipt (to confirm to me that they indeed paid for tracking and delivery confirmation), they made all kinds of excuses. Hell, I know personal info like credit card info may be on the receipt, that's fine, black it out, but send the scan after that. This would have allayed my fears that the guy was lying to me. He kept giving me excuses so I had no choice but to put in a claim. Of course he went ballistic but never offered proof of shipping. He even went so far as to track my number down and called me to bitch me out for reporting him. So I included that to with a screen shot of my cell phone minutes proving his phone call to me to Paypal, to show his now harrassment. I didn't get word bacl from Paypal other than the standard "We are looking into it" reply for a week, so I told the seller I was reversing my charge. Again he went nuts and said I should get it in three days. Of course I didn't believe him. Lo' and behold I DID finally get it at the three day mark after all of this. This wasn't a screw up with UPSP or UPS. It was a seller trying to screw me of my money.

Now I ask you, (anyone, not just Jack) what sort of feedback would you have left? Again, no proof of shipping ever sent when requested, longer than 4 weeks to recieve, a harrassing call to me for reporting him...
Regardless that I eventually got the item, the promise of the auction was that the winner was to recieve the item within 10 days of receipt of payment. My paypal invoice proved my payment date, which again was immediately after clicking the BIN.

Sorry, but sellers still have buyers by the nads in most cases. It's buyers who have to jump through hoops to either get their FULL money back or the item for which we paid for. It's one reason I almost always never give feedback first as a buyer. You the seller have my money, I fulfilled my end of the deal, so post positive feedback.

With these new changes, it seems much of this will either be moot or changed drastically. I can see this having an overall negative affect on eBay. Which to be quite frank might not be a bad thing if we as consumers (buyers AND sellers alike) can have another auction site avaiable. I'd like to see eBay have some competition. It might whip them into shape about dealing with errant deals.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 1, 2008, 05:36 PM
It sounds like in your case Jedi_master_sal, that if you left negative feedback, the seller would do exactly that to you. That way you both suffer. Of course the guy with the lower number of positive feedback suffers more than the one with 1000 auctions in a month.

In my experience complaints to ebay and paypal are never taken care of both on the buyer and seller sides. It takes both so long to respond that its just easier to deal with the credit card company before your options expire with them.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 1, 2008, 09:56 PM
Well they say, Buyers must wait 3 days before leaving negative or neutral Feedback for sellers with an established track record, to encourage communication.

Now it doesn't say when the 3 days begin. Does that begin at auction close?

Yup.

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buyers will be prevented from leaving a public negative or neutral Feedback within 3 days of a listing’s end for sellers with an established track record

eBay Discussion Forum:A letter from Matt Halprin on Feedback  (http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000508682&tstart=0&mod=1201919937320)

...This is incorrect if you pay with paypal as a buyer, you are 100% covered. Paypal sides with buyers 99.9% of the time and would give the buyer back his money....

Not all the time & at times good luck getting the funds back.

If the seller does not have the funds in his/her account then Paypal cannot refund, a lot of sellers pull the funds as soon as they get it. Paypal cannot pull funds from your bank account without your authorization, if they did boy someones gonna be rich!  ;)

If a buyer pays via credit card, you can bypass Paypal & call the credit card company that you deal with & request a chargeback. Any CC company overrules Paypal.  ;D
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Post by: DSJ™ on February 3, 2008, 01:15 AM
If anyone really cares & like eBay will listen.  ::)

Sellers, Auction Sites, React to eBay News (http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y08/m02/i01/s01)

eBay Sellers Protest, Threaten Strike (http://www.ecommerce-guide.com/essentials/ebay/article.php/3725461)

Local seller joins eBay "uprising" (http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/eder/2008/02/local_seller_joins_ebay_uprisi.html)

Here's a link to the pledge thread started on eBay's forums for those interested:

eBay Forums: Seller Central Discussion Board: SIGN THE PLEDGE _ NO SALES FEB 18-25! (http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=1000636290&tstart=0&mod=1201983218017)

Watch eBay make it a free listing week!  ::)
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Post by: AndyG on February 3, 2008, 06:58 AM
You the seller have my money, I fulfilled my end of the deal, so post positive feedback.

As a buyer I don't consider the deal complete until I have let the seller know the item has been recieved.

Normally I do this through feedback as the vast majority of my purchases are without incident. This, for me is easier than finding the email or typing out an ebay message from a link on the finished auction. Controversially, I ditched the idea of feedback being a reciprocal points scoring system a few years back. I don't care that the seller gets +1 and I may not got nothing in return. They know I have the item and the deal was okay - so I have fully completed my end of the deal. If they don't leave feedback then I don't go back.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 8, 2008, 08:05 AM
There is a movement in the works against eBay and it's
new policies. Apparently much is not all of the
changes are the brainchild of the new CEO. In hopes of
getting their attention and the removal of this new
CEO, people are urging everyone to strike at eBay by
not selling, buying, listing or any other type of
activity on their site.
Here's a vid on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23TomS5--nQ

I very likely will participate in the strike. I don't
have much I'm looking to buy right now anyway, so it
should be relatively easy for me. I think I can let a
week go by without trying to buy something.

I'm not a seller, but I don't like the changes they
are making. It really does hurt sellers the most, but
all eBay users in general.

-Sal

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on February 13, 2008, 12:00 AM
Interesting video, though very one-sided imo.  Anyone have a better summary of the mentioned increase in rates for sellers?  This seems to me like a case of trying to fix something that's not broken - none of the new rules really seem to make sense, or at least the implied benefit to Ebay is not well explained.   :-\  All the same, I can avoid using ebay for a week to help out the cause.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2008, 11:53 AM
I am officially in all of my current listing end on the 17th. The fee increase alone are absurd and make it so hard to sell and make a profit and harder to give buyers really good deals.

I am in on the strike!
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Post by: Master_Phruby on February 14, 2008, 03:42 PM
What alternate auction sites are there? I type "star wars" into ubid and came back with nothing. That's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on February 14, 2008, 07:09 PM
Try http://www.ebid.net/

The UK site is just full of crap that nobody wants - however - free listing means you can list as much crap as you like and it doesn't cost you a thing  8)

If your item sells the final value fee in the UK is 3%

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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 18, 2008, 05:49 PM
The strike has begun!

I tried to go and sign up for ioffer because you can actually transfer your ebay feedback score which is sweet because you do not have to start from scratch. The site has been bogged down all day. I find this to be a good sign that for once a worldwide ebay strike may actually yeild some results. Peopel are truly fed up the changes that have gone too far. The coverage in the news on TV/Web has been the best I have ever seen in terms of ebay strikes.

Anyone else think this might work?....Or care?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 20, 2008, 03:51 PM
Do you think ebay is seeing any reduction of traffic and sales this week? How will we ever know if there is any kind of effect or not?
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Post by: AndyG on February 20, 2008, 05:49 PM
How will we ever know if there is any kind of effect or not?

You can follow the numbers here http://db.powersellersunite.com/auctionsitewatch.php/

To put this into a proper context - the one day promotion ebay.com had last week led to a spike in auctions from 12 mill to 16 mill. The numbers have only been dropping since Sunday.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 21, 2008, 10:31 AM
I've been trying to view the charts on powersellersunit.com site and it keeps sending me back to the main page. I've created an account and logged in but it keeps doing that. Everytime I check, ebay keeps going down.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on February 21, 2008, 10:55 AM
I think the load on the site has taken its toll - the numbers haven't updated in 6 hours since I first checked them this morning. So the stats are over 12 hours out now.

It would be more interesting to see the numbers today as it is when the 7 day listings from last weeks promotion come off.
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 21, 2008, 11:34 AM
Ebay listings are down 12.79% as of 1:05am today!

To really make the impact it needs to drop below 12 million listings. Only 900k to go, getting close! It's actually working this time! There is some hope to save ebay we knew and the small sellers!

http://db.powersellersunite.com/auctionsitewatch.php/login.php
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 21, 2008, 11:43 AM
This just in as of 11:05 am today.....

-17.73%

(My famous yellow 14 point text)
Number of Listings: 12,407,716

407,717 to go to make the real impact it has to drop below 12 million to make a dent!
   
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on February 21, 2008, 12:34 PM
Hopefully the auctions will approach 10 million, although what happens on the 26th will also be interesting.

It hasn't been as big over here in the UK so I don't think the number of auctions here has been as affected.

We have also had no official info sent to us directly about any feedback changes or changes to the paypal set up.

Only the cheaper listing fees / final value fee increases has been announced over here and came into force yesterday.



Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 21, 2008, 01:20 PM
I just went to bidville and typed star wars into the search and got a search error! Too many records returned. Why can't someone build a decent bidding site on the caliber of ebay? Any other bidding site I try, returns few to no records or just crashes when I type star wars!!! I sware, ebay is the only one that actually works correctly.
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Post by: ruiner on February 21, 2008, 02:02 PM
And that's the catch.  Ebay is still, by far, the best choice in regards to maximizing exposure. 

Their problem is they've lost sight of their loyal customer base and have focused more on profit.




Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 21, 2008, 02:20 PM
Ruiner you are dead on. That's the problem, when sellers leave or are put out of business their profits will dwindle. This very drastic change in a soft economy boggles the minds of most eBayers. I really think ioffer will catch on. Since you can take your feedback with you and list for free with lower FVF many from eBay will defect. While 2.5 million listings is not eBay level they do have the most auctions of any other site and they are growing. I will be posting on their site this weekend.

I plan on gathering all of my regular customers address from paypal and sending a mass email to them to bring some if not all my regulars over there.
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Post by: ruiner on February 21, 2008, 02:47 PM
Good idea.

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Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 21, 2008, 07:30 PM
Well it's only at 9.33% right now, but that's still good. The strike IS making an impact. It's up to eBay to act. Hopefully we'll know after the strike ends.

During the strike, I'm not bidding, watching or even going to the site.

Less foot traffic (even without bidding) will make a statement as well.

Thanks to everyone else who is in on the strike with me.

Even though I'm just a buyer there, I don't like what they are doing, so I'm supporting the sellers stance here as well.
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 21, 2008, 11:16 PM
The real test is if we can break the listings below 12 million before the strike "ends". I hope tomorrow we can do it.

Sal, this is going to kill my ebay business. i already am moving to ioffer as are many others. At least you can transfer your ebay feedback. The have a solid amount of Star Wars listings, hopefully that will grow in time.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on February 22, 2008, 06:20 AM
Well the listing are currently pushing 13 million  :(

The graphs are now up on the website linked earlier and you can see the huge spike with the promo and at the moment things have levelled to where they were before the promo.

However, it would be interesting to see how many of those new auctions were just people re-listing from the auctions that didn't sell as part of the promotion - I know I used to routinely re-list with the promise of free insertion if the item sold a second time - I'm more selective at re-listing these days  ;)

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Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 22, 2008, 07:47 AM
The real test is if we can break the listings below 12 million before the strike "ends". I hope tomorrow we can do it.

Sal, this is going to kill my ebay business. i already am moving to ioffer as are many others. At least you can transfer your ebay feedback. The have a solid amount of Star Wars listings, hopefully that will grow in time.


I signed up with iOffer last night. I'm a little leary at transferring my feedback though as you have to put in your password through iOffer to get it transferred.

So for now, I'll be happy to stay at zero feedback.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 22, 2008, 12:25 PM
You know all ebay has to do to mess up your downward trend is to make another free insertion offer.
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 22, 2008, 05:00 PM
I signed up with iOffer last night. I'm a little leary at transferring my feedback though as you have to put in your password through iOffer to get it transferred.
So for now, I'll be happy to stay at zero feedback.

Sal, I did it without a problem and changed my password after the fact. Just a suggestion.
ebay is not going to change it's time to move on. They do not want small sellers anymore, there is no other way to explain the massive changes. they just do not want to come out and say it.

ioffer.com, see you there!
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Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 22, 2008, 06:01 PM
I signed up with iOffer last night. I'm a little leary at transferring my feedback though as you have to put in your password through iOffer to get it transferred.
So for now, I'll be happy to stay at zero feedback.

Sal, I did it without a problem and changed my password after the fact. Just a suggestion.
ebay is not going to change it's time to move on. They do not want small sellers anymore, there is no other way to explain the massive changes. they just do not want to come out and say it.

ioffer.com, see you there!


It only takes a second though for anyone to have your personal info if you give them your password, especially through electronic transfer.

I'll see you there on iOffer, I'll be the one with the zero feedback though....lol.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 23, 2008, 08:20 PM
I don't think that strike worked.  :( The only downturn during the week was on the 21st. It looks like its gone back up since then. I think a strike would only work if it was a month long. I see the strike as having no effect on average.
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Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 24, 2008, 12:07 PM
I don't think that strike worked.  :( The only downturn during the week was on the 21st. It looks like its gone back up since then. I think a strike would only work if it was a month long. I see the strike as having no effect on average.

Well a statement has been made. People are already talking about and/or moving to other auction type sites. So the complete ramifications of the strike cannot fully be counted just by this one week. I'd say we'll get a better understanding of the whole thing in a few months.

If eBay makes some changes or we start seeing on the news/net that large numbers of people are defecting from ebay, then I'd say the strike will have worked at least in part. These kinds of things don't always show immediate results, so we need to be patient.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 25, 2008, 08:57 PM
EBay boycott winds down, but anger remains (http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/25/smbusiness/ebay_boycott_wraps.fsb/index.htm?cnn=yes)
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Post by: JediJman on February 25, 2008, 09:26 PM
EBay boycott winds down, but anger remains (http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/25/smbusiness/ebay_boycott_wraps.fsb/index.htm?cnn=yes)

Interesting article.  Of course, Ebay is going to say they didn't notice any impact - if they admitted this hurt them, it would drive people to do it again, but saying it did nothing makes people feel as though there's nothing we can do.  I'm not a big frequenter of Ebay, but I applaud those who are and avoided the site to make a point.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 27, 2008, 04:31 PM
Ebay is also not talking about how bad the sell through rates were on the listings that were up there. They might have just squeaked by above the 12million listing mark but sales were down. I watched many items that are staples not sell like they usually do. I am continuing the strike until next week. The strike worked in many ways and all of which cannot be clearly seen in one week.

ioffer is growing but it's still quiet over there. May will bring the real awakening of anger come Feedback change time. It's gonna get ugly and it will become Fleebay. It's funny many non-ebayers have seemed hear about the strike and changes this week so the word of mouth is still out there. The reputation has been damaged further and that is something that's hard to get back.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 11, 2008, 08:52 PM
Man, can eBay **** up the site even more!  >:(

Today I noticed, eBay made ******* Category Changes! (http://pages.ebay.com/categorychanges/toys.html)

I have a bookmark for BIN vintage figures, just to the left in the "Narrow Your Results" was a section for Droids & Ewoks. Now that is gone, they combined it within the "Other" category thus far. Not only with vintage but other "Toys & Hobbies" on the bay. ****! If it ain't broken then don't fix it ya bunch of ******* ****tards! Now searching for stuff will take more time.  >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JohnH on March 11, 2008, 09:50 PM
****! If it ain't broken then don't fix it ya bunch of ******* ****tards!

For some reason I can't stop laughing at this.    ;D

I wish eBay would quit screwing with the categories as well.  Personally I liked it the way things were *before* they made a bunch of changes, and now they've gone and moved things around again.  I find it completely unnecessary to split vintage figures out by movie, and that's just a sampling of how they split things into way too many categories.  But I see why you're frustrated - their last big realignment screwed with all of my programmed searches as well.

John
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Post by: JesseVader08 on March 11, 2008, 10:03 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/CategoriesTN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/Categories.jpg)
(click to see the new categories)


They're going to have even more mixing of modern and vintage listings since there's no home for OT figures from the Saga (2002-2004), OTC (2005) and TSC (2006) lines.  The changes were VERY poorly done.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on March 12, 2008, 01:40 AM
Ebay's new category ****up is just another example why, to this day, I believe that some people just need to be shot.

Why the hell do they have a category for The Force Unleashed when it's a ONE TIME DEAL IN 2008 AND THEN IT'S DONE?!  WTF? 

Over the past few years I haven't gotten as up in arms over eBay changes as I have over the new 2008 updates.  The category changes, increased final value fees, the hidden bidder userids and the completely thrashed feedback system have basically rendered their site useless to me. 

I just bought an item yesterday that I'd been looking for since last summer and it was really my last resort so I used it.  But now that I'm done with that I don't think I have any further use for them.  It'll take a while to break the habit of hitting my saved searches every morning but I'll be sure to work on it.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 12, 2008, 09:44 AM

Why the hell do they have a category for The Force Unleashed when it's a ONE TIME DEAL IN 2008 AND THEN IT'S DONE?!  WTF? 

I don't think they know that. Odds are the people making the categories are not star wars collectors. I think they are just seeing the same words in listings and grouping things together. They don't know how long a group of items will last and they really don't care.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on March 13, 2008, 03:20 PM
The people at eBay are morons. I bought a game from a seller, paid for it obviously, positive feedback was left on both sides and now I have a alert saying that I'm supposedly returning the game which I'm not. So now on my account it says I haven't paid for it and it will go against my account if I don't. I contacted a eBay "rep" and all they said was they could help me find the phone number to the seller. I know how to do that you stupid ass. And I already contacted the seller and haven't received a response.

**** you and your canned/scripted responses. >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2008, 02:51 PM
Okay, I haven't been paying much attention - but I thought sellers couldn't leave feedback anymore?

Is it just for stores?  Did it not go into effect yet?

I just left two feedbacks on things I sold and I didn't think I'd have that option.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 20, 2008, 02:57 PM
As far as I know it's not in effect yet.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on March 20, 2008, 04:59 PM
You can leave all the positive feedback you want.  You just can't leave negative.  At least once the new rule goes into effect, if it hasn't already.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on April 15, 2008, 11:58 PM
So, you no buy agains? A minus feedback?  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/LOLSide.gif)

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-crazy-ebay-cat.jpg) 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 16, 2008, 11:03 AM
I just had my first refund from a seller.

He claims that eBay is holding his paypal funds and he can't access them. So rather than holding my money, he just refunded it back to me.

Now this could be true and I know there is some new policy about this where eBay can hold your funds.

However in this specific case for this auction, it could be that the seller either didn't have the item or thought he could get more for it, so he just refunded me.

Either way, not matter to me as I was able to win another of the same item. But if this is true, then it's going to suck for sellers. If it's not true, I won't be able to report it and it would suck if sellers started using this as an excuse to get out of low winning bid auctions.

Meh, m use of eBay has greatly decreased. Even before the boycott I wasn't buying so much. It's dropped a bit since then.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MetalJedi on April 16, 2008, 12:26 PM
I pretty much stopped using ebay alltogether. I had 3 separate transactions within a month were I had to get refunds from the seller since I never got anything. I know that if the seller is new to ebay that they hold the funds of the auction.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 11, 2008, 02:10 AM
eBay's PayPal rule in Australia draws fire (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080510/ebay_paypal_only.html)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on May 11, 2008, 11:33 PM
I really am beginning to hate eBay more and more. 

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: clonebuyer111 on May 14, 2008, 05:08 PM
but if you do not use it more people will fine good deals
since there are less competitors
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 19, 2008, 11:59 PM
eBay has now made feedback adjustments, no more negative/neutral feedbacks... blah... blah... blah. 

eBay's Feedback system continues to evolve as the community and marketplace dynamics change. (http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/new.html)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/ChangestoFeedback.jpg)

Everyone one ebay should now have a 100% feedback, completely no logic with this system.

****! If it ain't broken then don't fix it ya bunch of ******* ****tards!
For some reason I can't stop laughing at this.    ;D

John

Bunch of ******* ****tards!  >:(  :P

Also your feedback rating should have jumped up a tad, mine went up a whole 22. Big ******* whoop!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on May 20, 2008, 12:18 AM
Everyone one ebay should now have a 100% feedback, completely no logic with this system.

No... Buyers can still leave negative feedback for sellers.  I guess they wanted to remove the threat of retaliatory feedback from sellers who deserve negatives.  If all you ever do is buy, then yes... you're 100% positive from now on.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 20, 2008, 12:30 AM
What's the sense of feedback, usless now is it not?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 20, 2008, 12:43 AM
That is pretty lame since there are bad buyers out there that deserve their negative feedback.  My feedback was 100% positive before this so there would be no change, but I always worried about retaliatory negative feedback from bad sellers.

Stupid change by eBay nonetheless.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on May 20, 2008, 12:51 AM
My positive feedback jumped by 20 or so points since we now get credit for multiples plus I'm at 100% for the last 12 months.

Other than that, though, I still think this is a terrible change and will do nothing but create more extortion opportunities for buyers. 

Not only that but the new fee structure has just caused shipping charges on auctions to skyrocket.  I passed on some loose figures I wanted because the seller was asking for $6 shipping + $1 for each additional figure.  Of course, the Postal rates aren't getting cheaper, but still...

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on May 20, 2008, 12:52 AM
From the 3rd June sellers will have to offer paypal on ebay UK.

It is quite ridiculous that as a seller you can not leave negative feedback, especially if you get messed around by a buyer. If ebay is going to fiddle with the system this much then a seller should, at the very least, be able to leave a negative once you have gone through the tedious process of filing a successful non paying bidder claim. The buyer didn't pay, ebay agrees, yet you can't leave a negative - what the **** is that all about?

However, I do like the repeat buyer change to the feedback as I am a repeat buyer - if I get good service, well described goods and don't get roasted over postage costs then I go back. This sytem is open to abuse but overall it is about the only change I like to the current whacky feedback system. My feedback jumped about 260 last week.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 20, 2008, 01:12 AM
Not only that but the new fee structure has just caused shipping charges on auctions to skyrocket.  I passed on some loose figures I wanted because the seller was asking for $6 shipping + $1 for each additional figure.  Of course, the Postal rates aren't getting cheaper, but still...

   E...

Oh I hear ya on the shipping costs. Here's an example of a couple of auctions to me in Canada.

Vintage Chewbacca 92back w/coin (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Chewbacca-92back-w-coin_W0QQitemZ160242144389QQihZ006QQcategoryZ2475QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

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To Canada -- US $39.00 USPS Priority Mail International Flat Rate BoxTM

Star Wars Part Support for Death Star Playset! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Star-Wars-Part-Support-for-Death-Star-Playset_W0QQitemZ290231783980QQihZ019QQcategoryZ50273QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

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US $23.95 USPS Express Mail InternationalTM

For those prices, they better be delivered by a hooker on a silver plater in 2hrs!  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on May 20, 2008, 01:27 AM
That second guy is using Express mail which is an overly expensive way to go, especially on that part which he could ship anywhere in the world for probably under $10.

Shipping this way from Asia is another ass pain.  It's not uncommon to find shipping of $20+ on items that shouldn't cost more than $10 max to ship.  It's ridiculous.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 20, 2008, 09:37 AM
Hell at those prices to ship to Canada, you should just have it shipped to me and I'll forward it to you. I think it would end up cheaper.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 26, 2008, 09:57 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing a substantial increase in shipping charges. Much harder to find a bargain once you figure in the shipping cost.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on August 20, 2008, 02:05 PM
More changes on eBay coming up, mostly for us Canuckleheads...

Frequently asked questions: Other updates  (http://pages.ebay.ca/sell/August2008Update/OtherFAQ/)

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Cheques and money orders no longer allowed on eBay.com

Accepted Payments Policy changes apply to listings on eBay.com and to listings on eBay.ca that are available to the US. Please read the following FAQs to understand exactly how this new eBay.com policy will impact you.

What's changing with payments on eBay?
Beginning in late October 2008, cheques and money orders will no longer be allowed as payment methods on eBay.com. All listings appearing on eBay.com must accept one of the following payment methods:
PayPal (funded by PayPal account balance, credit card, bank account, or eBay gift certificate)
Credit card payment to a seller (through a seller's Internet merchant account)
ProPay (a third party service not currently available for Canadian sellers)
Payment upon pickup
We are also working with other electronic payment providers currently included in our Accepted Payments Policy to integrate their services into eBay Checkout in 2009.

Oh so much BS to read in the link above, lets **** it up some more!  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on August 20, 2008, 02:19 PM
Didn't they just try this in Australia and fail?  Get up in arms about it an eBay will back down.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on August 20, 2008, 02:41 PM
It's coming to the US in October as well.  The only acceptable payment is PayPal or this other credit card processing company that'll cost you about $60 a year to use, plus fees on the actual transactions of course.

I can't help but think that eBay is creating a monopoly here even though there are other companies that offer online auctions.  They own the biggest one and they own the only payment company that they allow on the site.  Somehow that seems to violate the anticompetition laws in the US.

NY likes to sue people, maybe I should email Andrew Cuomo and see if we can get him to let loose the dogs.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 20, 2008, 02:50 PM
What if you done have a paypal account? Does that mean you can't sell or buy there anymore?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on August 20, 2008, 02:58 PM
Almost.  You can pay a CC processing company to receive your payments.  If you don't have a Credit Card you won't, however, be able to buy unless you use PayPal and have payments pulled directly from your bank account.

I just got done reading the news post on eBay about this.  They're even going to start imposing limits on shipping costs in the Media section.  So you won't be able to recoup listing and final values fees as part of the shipping/handling price.  I'm sure it'll be only a short period of time till that bleeds over to all aspects of the site.  They'll probably, at some point, ask you to put in shipping info about the item you're listing and based on size/weight impose a shipping limit based on Postal Rates or something.

The only thing eBay has done is help boost their profits with these changes.  Not a single one of them, IMO, has benefited sellers in any way.  The buyers are completely insulated at this point, being able to extort sellers out of money and/or items and if the seller doesn't 100% covered by every conceivable delivery insurance method, they're screwed.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on August 20, 2008, 03:31 PM
These changes are just ridiculous
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 21, 2008, 10:54 AM
They'll probably, at some point, ask you to put in shipping info about the item you're listing and based on size/weight impose a shipping limit based on Postal Rates or something.


Well I for one hope so. I think it's about time sellers NOT be allowed to trump up shipping charges. $10 for one figure for instance... I pass on those auctions every time. If I can get a CASE of 12 figures shipped to me for $7, then I can't justify the bulk of seller's upcharging the shipping rates.

yes, I realize there are minimal associated cost like packaging (possibly, I know many people just reuse shipping containers that get themselves from auctions they win), as well as gas to the post office. However, there are many sellers who sell a LOT of stuff, so they make few trips to the post office and mail out many things at once to keep their gas costs down.

So I take that into account slightly when bidding. If a seller is fair on shipping and combines shipping, I'm much more inclined to bid on their stuff and multiple auctions of theirs.

I do think eBay should allow a minimal cost built into the shipping for packaging and gas, but MINIMAL is the key. Depending on size of item, will depend on the amount a seller is able to tack on for packaging. Handling costs (this includes gas and the trip to the Post Office, would be no more than 50 cents to a dollar. This doesn't mean a seller automatically gets that added into their auction. The seller would need to decide if they are going to add those charges into their auction and passing on those costs to the buyer. Doing so will help buyers decide in a more informed manner if they will bid on that seller's auction or not based in part on the additional charges.

Yes, all this does mean eBay will get even MORE money, as no doubts they would now look to charge fees based on shipping as well.

It IS a double dip though if you ask me with regards to Paypal, since they own that too. It should NOT be allowed for eBay to charge fees and then Paypal to turn around and charge MORE fees. ANd yes, they ARE monopolizing their service by not allowing other methods of payment.

So I agree with some of what eBay wants to do but also agree that this will hurt sellers and consequently buyers in that there may be less opportunities to buy things as sellers may pull back on what/how much they sell.

Bah, I'm slowing down how much I buy on eBay. Most of these changes don't affect me specifically, but I do sympathize to a degree with sellers. I still think the idae of sellers not being allowed to leave negative feedback was a bad move on eBay's part.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on October 27, 2008, 09:00 AM
Oy!  ::)

Court threat over eBay feedback (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7689553.stm)

onsalexuk (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=onsalexuk&iid=-1&de=off&items=200)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on January 21, 2009, 12:03 PM
Good god! For those on the bay, have you checked your "My eBay"? The whole things ******* changed & no opt out for it! I lost items I need to leave feedback but I can do that through the e-mails of the wins/sales but man, **** it all over again ya numpty's!

****! If it ain't broken then don't fix it ya bunch of ******* ****tards! >:(

****tard Award of the Century... "eBay"! ******' *******!  >:(

******* Fucktarded Numpty's!  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 21, 2009, 01:47 PM
Been a while since you went to your ebay? :D  It's been that way a while (unless it's changing again since it did about 5-6 weeks ago or whenever it did) and I'm already used to it and can't remember the old style.  I haven't bothered "customizing" it, just pretty much left it as is for now.  I can sort of work with it ok now, but I've been selling a bit of late, so I've been pretty active since the new year. 

I am still miffed about the lack of ability to give negs to the buyer and the change in categories that rendered a bunch of categories useless/gone that were great before (Droids & Ewoks Cartoon).  I sold an item last week and got an email from a guy within 3 days asking where it was ::)  My auctions all have a description that includes a rant about Canada Post and it being slow and I send emails out when the item ships.  I can do no more, but I'm pretty much expecting my first negative in 7 years this week or next.  Yay. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on January 21, 2009, 01:51 PM
Been a while since you went to your ebay? :D 

Yeah, since I got off work this morning. It was fine then & now... *******!  :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 12, 2009, 05:13 PM
It's been a few weeks since someone complained about ebay. I've got one now. I'm trying to sell a vintage G1 Megatron figure but they keep pulling it down claiming it is a gun without a red tip. No were in my description do I mention it tranforms into a gun. The picture shows it in robot mode. How can I get this thing sold? Should I photoshop in a red tip?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 12, 2009, 05:20 PM
Is it still able to transform into a gun? If not, then just mention that. But if it still can, well, don't shoot yourself in the foot and say it can't because that would hurt the chance of it selling and for more money.

Don't photoshop it as you'll be held liable for it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: iFett on February 12, 2009, 05:24 PM
I'm pretty sure eBay is aware of the whole Megatron thing despite your description - especially with all of the reissues coming out of Japan.

Take a looky here (http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-HASBRO-Toy-MEGATRON-WALTHER-P38-TRANSFORMER-PISTOL_W0QQitemZ130286723293QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item130286723293&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)  He's in gun mode here.  Just jam a piece of plastic in the barrel so they can see.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 13, 2009, 09:49 AM
Actually I've never said in my descriptions that it turned into a gun. I even displayed it in robot mode. I guess I can find a orange piece of plastic and stick it on the barrel.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: knashdx on February 13, 2009, 11:07 AM
It's been a few weeks since someone complained about ebay. I've got one now. I'm trying to sell a vintage G1 Megatron figure but they keep pulling it down claiming it is a gun without a red tip. No were in my description do I mention it tranforms into a gun. The picture shows it in robot mode. How can I get this thing sold? Should I photoshop in a red tip?

It's Megatron. They know that G1 Megatron is a pistol. They know that there are some that come with plugs and some that don't. The ones that don't come with a plug are the ones being removed. If nothing else I would recomend posting it as a buy it now with what you want for it and doing it later in the day. You might stand a better chance of moving it
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: iFett on February 13, 2009, 11:21 AM
Why are you quoting Brent's rant?  I'm misquoting you for that. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on February 13, 2009, 11:31 AM
I guess I can find a orange piece of plastic and stick it on the barrel.

Quote
Prohibited:
Replicas, paintball guns, "air soft" guns*, replica, toy guns, cap guns and "look-alike" guns if they do not have clear markings permanently affixed to them (commonly blaze orange markings on the barrel or a blaze orange plug inserted into the barrel) or if they are readily convertible to shoot a lethal projectile.

Stick one of these in the barrel, problem solved.  :P

(https://www.wegmans.com/prodimg/635/200/077890137635.jpg)

Or an electrical orange wire nut.  ;)

(http://www.redbeardstagsandbags.com/images/tn_22_14_orange_wire_nut.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 13, 2009, 07:49 PM
Good ideas guys. I'll reshoot a picture with something sholved in the barrel.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Theta 288 on March 4, 2009, 01:39 PM
Ah sigh! Beware

Same E-Seller Scum with the same dumb trick for almost two years.

If it  happens that you are bidding for a supossedly about 700 Clone figure's Auction
at: here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280317354882), I bet that I'm 99% sure that its a fraud & the same stupid person.

I recognize the pictures,&  his ? location, but always "California", 0 seller feedback, two or three + buyer feedback like the last two times, he likes to buy Marvel figures to show at least that hes has  some + feedback, but not Seller  feedback at all....Got ya! he is the same Scum!...

1) 1st time 2007-8 I knew him as Andy by mail, I was interested in his SW 200 Clone figure  LOT's, supossedly he has 3 left.
2) Shortly after his 1st auction ended, he relisted his 2nd lot but w Gunships... but later I was notified by Ebay to not place a bid for that Faker's stuff.
3) Months Later he is back, with diferent auction or better say same figures, displayed diferent,same California location, diferent user name, he got me on in one of his trapp...In less than a week his account dissapeared from Ebay, I reclaimed my money to Ebay... thankfuly got the $$$ back.



Aha now 2009, he is back, stating that its not his stuff, claim that the auction goes for 700 Clones, the picture at least shows 213 Clones, image used last year &  a half ago, a bidder asked if its accure cuz the image is not, he stated yes its 700 clones  ::)

PS: I think I will report Ebay this scum, for them to be alerted & act quickly or do their best to protect the buyers.  I think this scum took more than a $1,000 the 1st time. I feel if I dont act, people would be **** by him...

photo of last y & 1/2  I have saved it in one of my ex-hard drive to reminds me, if that I see that again...not Bidding for it ... too bad i didn't saved his other fake auctions  ::)  I have saved him as my favorite seller, to see after the auction ends how fast he will close his account or be closed.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Ebay_FakeSeller.jpg)

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: knashdx on March 4, 2009, 02:00 PM
If this guy even paid $6 a figure for 700 figures he is looking at $4200 in figures, not counting tax. He is out of his mind to not have a reserve on it. That should be clue enough to Ebay that this a fraudulant account.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Keonobi on March 4, 2009, 02:06 PM

Aha now 2009, he is back, stating that its not his stuff, claim that the auction goes for 700 Clones, the picture at least shows 213 Clones, image used last year &  a half ago, a bidder asked if its accure cuz the image is not, he stated yes its 700 clones  ::)


Yeah, I get something like 200 clones in that pic, I see 11 or 12 rows of 18 figures.  Not exactly the 700+ number he claims....
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Theta 288 on March 4, 2009, 02:32 PM
If this guy even paid $6 a figure for 700 figures he is looking at $4200 in figures, not counting tax. He is out of his mind to not have a reserve on it. That should be clue enough to Ebay that this a fraudulant account.

Thats a very Good point, other is that he state in his description, that if you need more time to pay, to contact him withing  24 hrs... i think that its clear that he will give you time to pay( hoping to get a check), leave his account open (he can leave it open with Ebay but close the bank account without notify Ebay/Paypal) & later make his escape... or Possibly a fake account as u said, no idea how he will receive money from people's credits.





Aha now 2009, he is back, stating that its not his stuff, claim that the auction goes for 700 Clones, the picture at least shows 213 Clones, image used last year &  a half ago, a bidder asked if its accure cuz the image is not, he stated yes its 700 clones  ::)


Yeah, I get something like 200 clones in that pic, I see 11 or 12 rows of 18 figures.  Not exactly the 700+ number he claims....

good counting, this is just so strange  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 4, 2009, 03:57 PM
Sold the Megatron. I stuck a orange crayon in the barrel. Of course, I removed it when I shipped it off.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Chris M on March 5, 2009, 08:54 AM
I want to complain/bitch/gripe for a second.

Last September I decided to sell one of my high end softball bats.  The bat sells for a decent price and then I sent an invoice to the buyer.  He tells me he got one cheaper and is not going to pay for mine.  WTF!!!????  Of course I file a nonpaying bidder dispute and get my listing fees back.

Then last month I sell off all my paintball equipment for a really good amount.  The buyer (reefman if that says anything) sends me an eBay message telling me he and his friends are looking forward to using my stuff and getting it in the next week or two.  Great, communication!!!  But, the message was really haphazard, so I'm guessing this clown was higher than a kite.  Needless to say, no payment or anything.  So I file a dispute, hear nothing back and should have my listing fees refunded in the next day or two.

I hate that I can't leave negative feedback, yet they can go on and keep doing this.  It sucks that for the moment, eBay is the only place to really sell stuff and the smaller auction sites haven't caught on yet.

Okay, rant over for now.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on March 5, 2009, 09:33 AM
I hate that I can't leave negative feedback, yet they can go on and keep doing this. 

Not being able to leave negative feedback, especially for non-payment, is one of the few concessions that ebay should have granted sellers in this very buyer biased world they have currently created. It is something I constantly cite to them in correspondence as to how far to the buyers side they have moved.

That said, you should still file the Non Paying Bidder for your final value fees back and then the buyer receives a unpaid item strike against their account. It used to be 3 strikes and the account is closed. Although I'm no longer sure if the 3 strike rule is any longer though or if there are any timescales between strikes?



Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Theta 288 on March 5, 2009, 11:19 AM
Well I just reporteded the item scam at ----> Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280317354882),Only to find out that Ebay will take 72 hrs to investigate according to their automatic respond  :P, I did report too late I guess ( I did two options, one yesterday, one today with 14 hrs left). I looked for a quicker option, and I dont dare using the phone cuz they would be having a hard time to understand me what I realy wanted to say at less that I'm very relax  :)...my broken english  sucks

He revised the listing at almost at the end of the auction as usual with new photos ( the last two that I have in the previous page), but this time let me know that its him in fact by correcting that its not 700 clones but 600 as previously has... ::)

Gosh... it goes now for $600... may the force be with the buyer & feel the dark side of the Force with that fake Sithller
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 5, 2009, 12:04 PM
Is there a way to see the nonpayment strikes against a buyer?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Chris M on March 5, 2009, 12:46 PM
Is there a way to see the nonpayment strikes against a buyer?

I dug around for a while last night and couldn't fine one.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 5, 2009, 08:20 PM
I've got this brain donor from Maldives that bid on my auction. I canceled his bid because shipping was only for the united states. He bid again right before the closing. Now I have to deal with him. I adjusted the shipping and waited for the money. He never sent it. He said his credit card isn't working and would work again next month. I gave him some time but he still hasn't paid me. I've got a non paying case against him that I can close on Saturday. The guy has no feedback. Why do these people bid on things with the intent of never paying?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Theta 288 on March 6, 2009, 01:28 PM
If this guy even paid $6 a figure for 700 figures he is looking at $4200 in figures, not counting tax. He is out of his mind to not have a reserve on it. That should be clue enough to Ebay that this a fraudulant account.

Sold for way less than that, US $1,577.53 for 600 figures this time he declared plus few hundreds for his transformers & other SW lot, but still alot of money stolen if this guy really get away with it.

I hope that this time he is not faking the sell if he does have these lots for real, but a 3rd time with this crap,  I doubt it  :-\

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on March 6, 2009, 07:23 PM
I've got this brain donor from Maldives that bid on my auction. I canceled his bid because shipping was only for the united states.

If shipping was only to the US, did you not set up the seller preference / buyer requirement option so that only bidders in the countries specified can bid? Maybe it is more complex for the Maldives as maybe they have to register via ebay.com?

As an update to the unpaid strike thing, I also noticed that I can exclude buyers who have had 2 unpaid strikes within the last month from bidding on my auctions. I'd set this limit up a while back so had forgotten about it. When I just checked my buyer requirement activity log some bidder had been prevented from bidding on my auction last week due to having too many unpaid strikes. The log also told me that a couple of buyers, from outside countries that I specified I would post to, were also prevented from placing bids.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 7, 2009, 11:39 AM
Is the seller preference / buyer requirement part of the setup of the auction or is it a general perference? I'll check my settings.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: AndyG on March 7, 2009, 11:52 AM
Is the seller preference / buyer requirement part of the setup of the auction or is it a general perference? I'll check my settings.

General preference under:

My Account >>> Site Preferences >>> then scroll down to buyer requirements and you can edit the settings there.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 7, 2009, 03:51 PM
Thanks! I think that will help.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Theta 288 on March 16, 2009, 04:19 PM
He did it again... took more than $1,800.00 & flew away...account shows as: no longer registered  ::)

Make sure to not bid on strange lots with 0 seller feedbacks, but anything can happen feedback or not.

I wonder how many times this guy has been in jail.... I knew it, was the same scum.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus/Ebay_FakeSeller7.jpg) 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: knashdx on March 16, 2009, 04:59 PM
Not surprised. Hang onto those photos and and the screen shot of the seller you have. He's done it before, he will do it again. There has got to be someway to get this person's information to flag him on here and other websites for what he is doing.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Theta 288 on March 16, 2009, 05:38 PM
Not surprised. Hang onto those photos and and the screen shot of the seller you have. He's done it before, he will do it again. There has got to be someway to get this person's information to flag him on here and other websites for what he is doing.

Sure I will keep them.

I just hope that Ebay has taked my advise seriously when I did emailed them, & the buyers had  sufered not loss, he just got once, but I got my money back ... Sure he will do it again.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on June 17, 2009, 07:34 PM
So what's the deal with this new thing where they require you to post a handling time?  I have to promise I'll ship within x number of days now or what?

My general policy is that if someone pays the day of the auction, I'll have it shipped the next day, but if they take their sweet ass time and wait 5 days to send payment, I'm in no hurry to get to the post office.

So what happens if I say I'll ship within one day and then I don't?  Anything?  I don't want to say that I'll ship within 3 or 5 or whatever because then some people might be turned off by that.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: starwarsgeek on June 17, 2009, 08:16 PM
Rob, I've learned (the hard way, unfortunately) that it really doesn't matter what you say, or what you do. There is just no pleasing some people. And some people will just flat out lie.

I usually ship items the same day people pay if they pay me before around 2pm or the very next day at the latest, since I have no job or anything... and yet, I still can't seem to get above a 4.7 - 4.8 on my DSR scores.

Not to mention that I had a buyer who bought a Galactic Heroes figure from me for like $2, paid, I shipped it next day, she got it in 3 days from the end of the auction. On day 7 after the auction, she leaves me a negative feedback, says it took me 8 days to ship (even though it had only been 7 days since the auction ended) and that my communication was extremely poor.

So basically, ebay sucks. But what can you do?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: A.J. on June 17, 2009, 09:21 PM
Eh I bought Resident Evil 5 3 days ago on ebay and the seller still hasn't contacted me. I get so annoyed when sellers don't communicate.  >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on June 17, 2009, 09:44 PM
Since they broke the feedback system further by breaking out feedback into categories and then cutting down sellers based on low scores in those categories, shipping time being the biggest, this is probably an attempt to fix it.

By saying you'll ship in X number of days, it's sets a better expectation for the buyer and helps with better feedback.  Or, that's probably what eBay thinks.

But it's really just going to be another gotcha for sellers and a way buyers can blackmail and defraud, now with more proof.  If you say you'll ship in 3 days and then not ship till the 4th day, the buyer now has more ammo to ding you on feedback or in disputes on chargebacks.

IMO, nothing eBay can do at this point will fix the huge damage they caused last year.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: starwarsgeek on June 17, 2009, 11:58 PM
IMO, nothing eBay can do at this point will fix the huge damage they caused last year.

And continue to cause... I agree.

Although I have to say, it's not always eBay's fault... there are plenty of stupid people out there.

I had a buyer complain to me that they paid for "Priority Mail" and I shipped it "Priority Flat Rate"  ::)

I had a buyer complain that I packed a box with newspaper, because his hands got dirty from the ink rubbing off  ::)  ::)

I had a buyer complain that I shipped his package to him too quickly because he went on vacation and wasn't expecting me to ship it so soon, so it would arrive after he came back home. So he was mad that it sat on his doorstep for 3 days while he was away...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 18, 2009, 12:04 AM
I think the system still favors the seller, not the buyer.  I won an auction about a month ago for what I thought was a really amazing BIN price.  I asked the seller if I could wait to pay a few days because I was interested in some more of his stuff and he said that was fine.  I didn't win anything else, so I paid him after a week.  He refused payment, saying he had already relisted the item and had a new buyer for more money. There was no communication about it to me and nothing in the auction or prior communication saying when payment had to be made. 

I contacted Ebay to complain and sent him several emails asking him to honor our previous agreement, but Ebay sided with him in the end - probably because they get a bigger fee off the bigger sale price.  ******* ridiculous.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on June 18, 2009, 12:13 AM
Eh I bought Resident Evil 5 3 days ago on ebay and the seller still hasn't contacted me. I get so annoyed when sellers don't communicate.  >:(

Did you pay for it?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: knashdx on June 18, 2009, 03:23 PM
You can't even leave negative feedback as a seller any more. Ebay is becoming so unfriendly to work with, but they have systmatically gotten rid of all competition that they have become a monopoly and it sucks to work with them.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on August 10, 2009, 09:43 AM
Here's something of interest for those of you that sell on the bay, I saw this post at RS & credit goes to Chris G. for the post & Ron S. for finding this posted on a blog.  :)

Note: This is showing up on the US eBay site & nothing for other countries thus far but keep an eye out.

Warning: eBay will be using photos without creators' permission. (http://naamah-darling.livejournal.com/411410.html)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jayson on August 10, 2009, 10:09 AM
Wow, this is ******* stupid. As someone who has at times hundreds of photos on ebay being used by sellers, this news is quite frustrating.  I doubt those that already pilfer images off certain sites to sell their goods will be opting out of this "program" and eBay will soon be crediting them for someone else photography. Nice. ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on August 10, 2009, 11:34 AM
Opt out and it's now time to watermark every photo you post, and watermark it in a way that you can't edit it out with a simple crop of the photo.

Opting the sellers in by default, IMO, is blantant stealing of copywrited photos through trickery.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2009, 02:24 PM
Forget the copyright stuff, why would eBay want sellers using photos that aren't of the items in the auction?  To encourage more people to sell easily? 

I always take my own photos, and I always go out of my way to point out to people that the items in the photos are the actual items up for grabs.  I hate buying something and then finding out that it was stock photography.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on August 10, 2009, 02:52 PM
Forget the copyright stuff, why would eBay want sellers using photos that aren't of the items in the auction?  To encourage more people to sell easily? 

I'm sure that's what they're thinking but, again, logic fails them.  All it does is encourage laziness by the sellers, creates an even easier avenue for sellers to deceive buyers and takes another step further away from their original business model and closer to that of a regular retail store.

I don't know if they do it for books, but for DVDs you can list using their built-in tools that provide a cover photo for you along with details about your item based on the barcode or ISBN (I forget which right now) number.  If they start building a catalog of photos for all sorts of things it's doing the same thing, trying to normalize listings.  That's great for a store but for an auction site that started as a digital yard sale?

I want to see the item I'm buying.  There are exceptions; if I'm actually buying from a store and they have a Gentle Giant bust, sealed, I don't really care if the photo is of the actual bust I receive.  If I'm buying a loose bust from a regular guy, I want a photo so I know what shape it is in and if it's complete and unbroken.

If I bother to sell on eBay again, I'm definitely watermarking my photos.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 10, 2009, 04:10 PM
You can opt out of this as well E.

Follow the link provided and it only takes a minute or two to set your preferences to not give permissions to use your photos.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: efranks on August 11, 2009, 01:56 AM
You can opt out of this as well E.

Follow the link provided and it only takes a minute or two to set your preferences to not give permissions to use your photos.

That just takes away eBay's permission but once sellers catch on that eBay is doing this more will think they have carte blanche to take photos from other auctions and use them, permission or not.  It's done now but there have been feedback options as the photo owner to report stolen images.  If eBay's the one "stealing" your photos if you don't opt out, what kind of message does that send to sellers?

I'm more and more disgusted with eBay, every time they announce some new plan it seems to make the site worse, not better.

I don't buy anywhere near as much as I used to because I don't trust the sellers, and I haven't sold anything in probably a year because I don't trust the buyers not to try to screw me out of either the item or my cash, or both.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JES on September 29, 2009, 05:22 PM
Joke!

Really I brought this up more to ask Jason why he allows his pictures to be used constantly by these sellers on eBay. I mean it's just that you take the time and these bastards just swipe them up no work involved.

Just curious is all...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: ruiner on September 29, 2009, 06:09 PM
They need all the publicity they can get.  Chewie's signature here at JD just isn't cutting it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JES on September 29, 2009, 06:14 PM
Whoa... zinga  :o

I just think if I put in as much work as Jayson I'd be a tad bit pissled.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on September 29, 2009, 06:23 PM
Whoa... zinga  :o

I just think if I put in as much work as Jayson I'd be a tad bit pissled.

I'm pretty sure from prior conversations that he IS pissed about it.  Just not pissed enough to do anything about it.  What are you going to do - send each seller a nasty email about it?  Probably just not worth even more time trying to fight it.   :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on September 29, 2009, 06:32 PM
I'm pretty sure from prior conversations that he IS pissed about it.  Just not pissed enough to do anything about it.  What are you going to do - send each seller a nasty email about it? 

HUGE watermarks.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on September 29, 2009, 07:15 PM
Scum's taken Ebayers to task on it and have had the auctions removed...  I think it might be worth the effort just to annoy the sellers.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JES on September 29, 2009, 07:23 PM
Exactly. I mean it'd piss sellers off (some that I see using 75% of their pics from Yak) and that would maybe get through their lazy ass noggins to take pics themselves. I would definitely have thought about what Rob said and add a watermark, maybe not as huge as Rob stated  ;), but I guess that point is moot now since you'd have to go back through the entire archive and add it.

It was just something I've noticed happening more and more lately. Maybe it's a compliment since more users are using the pictures, but to me it's just a bunch of lazy asses who are also likely the guys who'd swap out a figure in a second to list on eBay.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on September 29, 2009, 09:08 PM
Scum's taken Ebayers to task on it and have had the auctions removed...  I think it might be worth the effort just to annoy the sellers.

Okay, but that's what I mean.  Jay already spends a ton of time creating the Yak photo guide and he's got work and a personal life.  He could dedicate a bunch of time to going after people that rip off his photos, but is it worth the effort just to annoy sellers?  What if he spends a ton of time and they still get away with it or others get away with it? 

Don't get me wrong - I think its unfair of people to steal his pics and they should have to either get permission or take them down.  I just don't know if the payoff is worth the time.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on September 29, 2009, 09:16 PM
To the best of my knowledge, when Scum did it, they simply emailed Ebay and said, "these (listed auction links) are using photos from our website with our watermarks, blah blah blah" and it was handled.  I don't think it was a hastle really.

I mean it's Jayson's stuff so it's not like I'm sitting here telling him he better do it or else...  That's totally up to him obviously.  I'm of the opinion just dropping an email in an effort to stop it may be worth the time, but Jayson may figure it's not worth it.  No big deal really either way.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jayson on September 30, 2009, 12:44 AM
Interesting thread. For a while, I did contact sellers that "borrowed" my photography, but it was an exercise in futility and I didn't want to police eBay looking for violators, so I have peacefully come to terms with it.

Sure, I could watermark the hell out of them, but I rather not a) because I'm lazy like that and b) who really wants to see a watermark on every photo I churn out? :P

Of the power sellers out there that do use my images rather frequently, most of them do actually credit the site or me as their source in the item description, so I'm fine with it. And much to my surprise, some of those sellers even asked my permission to use them before hand.

I guess what it comes down to is that I take pictures of toys for collectors to reference as a hobby, but a majority of the reason I do it is for my own amusement. If some seller uses them to make it easier to flip their crap, so be it. And if some buyer gets burned not getting exactly what's pictured, that's their problem.

They need all the publicity they can get.  Chewie's signature here at JD just isn't cutting it.

Nice.



P.S. Watermarks (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17231.msg445859#msg445859) don't mean **** when any seller could just do this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-loose-Legacy-Build-A-Droid-R3-M3-Astromech_W0QQitemZ370267237810QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5635a5adb2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1632wt_754).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2009, 01:17 AM
Do what?  I can't see any difference.


 :D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on September 30, 2009, 01:39 AM
P.S. Watermarks (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17231.msg445859#msg445859) don't mean **** when any seller could just do this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-loose-Legacy-Build-A-Droid-R3-M3-Astromech_W0QQitemZ370267237810QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5635a5adb2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1632wt_754).

Maybe I should have been more specific... I meant HUGE watermarks that go right over the image of the figure.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on September 30, 2009, 02:59 AM
Merging the topic as it's related to this thread.

Photo's will mean **** on the bay & even watermarked.

Here's something of interest for those of you that sell on the bay, I saw this post at RS & credit goes to Chris G. for the post & Ron S. for finding this posted on a blog.  :)

Note: This is showing up on the US eBay site & nothing for other countries thus far but keep an eye out.

Warning: eBay will be using photos without creators' permission. (http://naamah-darling.livejournal.com/411410.html)

A few posts back (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5186.435).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: I Am Sith on November 21, 2009, 05:14 PM
Anyone else having problems searching for items on ebay today?  Can't get any of my searches to go through...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on November 21, 2009, 06:05 PM
Anyone else having problems searching for items on ebay today?  Can't get any of my searches to go through...

From eBay system announcements:

Quote
***Issues with Search results and eBay Stores*** 
   
November 21, 2009 | 02:59PM PST/PT

Due to errors in some of our backend systems, members may be seeing different errors in Search. This could be that "We were unable to run the search results you entered. Please try again in a few minutes" or a blank page, or simply the browser being unable to display the page.
As a workaround - if you use the Advanced Search option at the top of the page, and type in your search query and click the title and description box and then run the search, the results for the title and description search will be returned. Likewise, if you receive a 0 results page for title search and choose the title and description box and re-run the search, you'll see the appropriate results.

This is also affecting the ability to access eBay Stores through search directly, and sometimes from the store URL.

Please note that we are working as quickly as possible to get this resolved. Thank you for your patience as we continue to work to resolve this.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Sprry75 on November 21, 2009, 07:44 PM
2012, man.  The beginning of the end....
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on March 7, 2010, 09:49 AM
Okay, so I have a question for those familiar with Ebay.  I recently bid on an item with a starting bid of $50.  I held the only bid for the entire week, then saw someone outbid me with 3-4 hours to go.   I was hoping to get it for about $75 or less, so with a few minutes remaining, I started bidding in $5-10 increments.  I got it all the way up to $85 (thrill of the bid), but stopped there as the person who outbid me was sitting at $86.

Fast forward to today - I received a second chance offering on the item for $85 BIN.  The seller says he has two, which I was very surprised by as this is a unique custom figure.  So my question is, is there any way to determine whether the first bidder really did buy the original listing?  Seems like an effective way to save on Ebay costs would be to shill bid on your own auction, effectivvely putting up a "reserve price" bid.  You've effectively bought your own item, but can offer a second chance price to the last highest bid.  Then you can just go back and submit a non-payment for the bid you placed on yourself. 

Am I just being paranoid here?  Curious to know what others think and if you've run into anything similar.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 7, 2010, 10:02 AM
Just merged your post to keep evrything together.  ;)

Well with the way eBay now hids the bidders name, very hard to tell if it's a shill bidder but red flags can be raised. Buyers tend to tag an auction to come back to it later, could be a minimum bid or a proxy. Some put them on the watch list & with a few hrs or minutes to go, the bids go up & sometiimes crazy.

With the way Ebay hides the bidders, shill bidding can take place. Place a proxy to have the other come back in or bid up the sellers bid only to become the high bidder in hopes of buyer coming back in to bid more. This can be done with a 2nd acct or having a friend to do the shill.

Now with that seller offering a 2nd & with what you mentioned, it raises the red flag & IMHO I would stay away. He could have been the bidder & wants to recoupe his fees. I would just ignore him & watch to see it the seller relists in down the road, that should tell ya something.  ;)

If it was a grail piece, it might be different but unless it's life & death... ya know.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on March 7, 2010, 03:00 PM
So, I did a little checking and found that the other auction this guy was selling went down the same way.  Some other guy was trying to win the bid, but D**r(126) placed a max bid that he couldn't get past (exact same guy that won my auction for a totally unrelated item).   >:(
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 7, 2010, 03:58 PM
Sounds like a shill to me. As a rule, I never accept a second chance offer. I once did on a guy and never received it. It seemed he offered it as second chance even though the original winner sent money in for the auction. The guy ended up not having the item at all much less two of them. We complained and he was banned from ebay. We got our money back thru paypal.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Keonobi on April 14, 2010, 02:33 PM
Hey anyone an experienced seller on eBay want to help me out a bit?  I've bought a few things on eBay, but never sold.  I set up an auction for a LEGO kit that sells for more than its worth to me.  I had initially set it up for flat rate shipping in the US, it'll fit in one of those "if it fits, it ships" boxes from USPS.  I've had a couple international buyers (Singapore, Hungary, Netherlands) ask me if I'd ship there, and I find an option for a flat rate shipper box also through the USPS, but I can't figure out how to change my listing to include that option for foreign buyers.  Do I need to change my listing or else how would I get the appropriate shipping applied for a foreign destination?

Can anyone help me out?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on April 14, 2010, 04:11 PM
If you have bids you can't change your auction.  I find it more of a hassle to sell to international buyers than it's worth.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Keonobi on April 14, 2010, 04:31 PM
So basically I'd either have to decline international sellers, eat the difference on shipping, or try to get them to send me the difference on shipping?  I guess I can't change the shipping amount when I invoice them, huh?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on April 14, 2010, 04:41 PM
What I hate is when you say no international shipping and some international dumbass wins the auction at the last minute. Now I've lost my bidder and have to deal with a guy that I didn't want to in the first place. It's like they can bid anyway even if you set it for domestic only.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on April 14, 2010, 05:26 PM
If its too late to change the auction listing, just figure out what the price would be to ship to the potential bidder's country and send him/her a quote.  When the auction completes just have them overpay you via PayPal the correct amount to make up the difference in shipping.  I've done this a bunch of times.  Just make it clear with the potential bidder how the transaction will be completed.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Keonobi on April 14, 2010, 05:31 PM
Thanks Dave, and everyone else for your advice.  I've developed a newfound sense of unease with dealing with international buyers, but I think I've nicely painted myself into a corner where I'll have to deal with one if they win the auction.  That and hope that a domestic bidder wins  ;).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on April 14, 2010, 06:06 PM
The other problem with International is your shipping choices are limited to trackable methods, which generally run $30 or more.  Otherwise you're sending it hoping the winner doesn't turn around and claim they never got it, getting all their money back from PayPal.  You have no protection unless you send it Global Express or one other method I can't remember.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on April 14, 2010, 11:32 PM
Yeah, all of my "commodity" auctions for things like POTF2 Yoda figures are only domestic.  If I've got something somewhat rare I often list it internationally if I feel it can get significantly more for it elsewhere.  And I pad my international shipping quotes to only send via trackable methods to deal with the potential headaches.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 11, 2010, 10:55 AM
I'm currently dealing with a seller that been kind of strange. First, he offered free shipping but sent the item in an usps flat rate envelope. The problem is the item is a large box so he cut the envelope up and made his own box out of it. The post office was not happy and I had to pay for postage. The seller says he does that all the time and they've never complained. He is suppose to be refunding my money.

Secondly, the item was advertised as "Brand New" however the box arrived ripped at the corners and the seals were broken. He taped the front of the box shut. All of the cables were unraveled and there was dust on the item. There were no instructions. The seller says he showed me a picture of the opened box and said it was never used and therefore "Brand New". This wasn't the same box since it wasn't ripped at the corners.

He said he would leave feedback if I did for him. My question is if I give him negative feedback, can he give me negative feedback in retailation? Does it effect my rating? I have pictures of the box and its condition. Can I complain to ebay about this guy selling used as new?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on May 11, 2010, 11:55 AM
Sellers can't neg buyers anymore.  I'd ask for a full refund including shipping and return it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 11, 2010, 11:55 AM
Sellers aren't able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers.

can sellers leave negative feedback ebay (http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&q=can+sellers+leave+negative+feedback+ebay&revid=1411584134&ei=rXzpS7jhB5SgsgOqoLiKCA&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=3&ved=0CFwQ1QIoAg&fp=696b12543a155b7a)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on May 11, 2010, 12:11 PM
RIght, he can't give you negative feedback or anything, but you've got more options than that.  If you paid with Paypal I think you can file a claim under the "item significantly not as described" option.

Or before going that route you can tell him that you're considering filing a claim and leaving negative feedback and see if that gets him to budge and give you a refund or a partial refund or whatever.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 11, 2010, 12:14 PM
Or if you paid with a credit card via Paypal, you can call your credit card company & request a chargeback & **** Paypal.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 11, 2010, 07:34 PM
I've actually done that in the past with the credit card company. When they argue with you, I just tell them to close the account. That gets them to do whatever you want. Then the charge back shows up on his paypal account and paypal shuts him down.

Well the device is working correctly and I got it for half off retail so it really doesn't matter the condition of the box. I just want my shipping back which he said he would give me but hasn't yet. Negative feedback is coming his way as soon as that money appears.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MattCBR on July 15, 2012, 11:32 PM
Shilling: getting bid up to your max proxy bid on e-bay, usually down to the cent during the last seconds of the auction, so the seller makes the most money possible (according to google search results).

Technically you're not getting ripped off, because you were willing to pay that amount.

It is frustrating as a buyer.... to think that sellers can find out your max bid and then bid one cent below that amount... it even happens if I attempt to bid in the last 10 seconds sometimes.

It happend today, won a lot of POTF2 figures for $33.59, the exact amount of my max bid... the auction had no other bids and I entered it 10 seconds before the end... I could have had the lot for .99 cents and $10 shipping... yet some random bidder with 100% positive feedback of (144) shilled me >:(

I still got a good deal IMO... but it's not the insane deal I was expecting... anyone else have that happen here?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on July 15, 2012, 11:39 PM
I don't get it, if you waited until 10 seconds left to bid, how did they have time to figure out your max and shill?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 15, 2012, 11:50 PM
I don't get it, if you waited until 10 seconds left to bid, how did they have time to figure out your max and shill?

I was thinking the same thing.  Maybe you just have a competitor looking for about the same stuff, willing to bid about the same amount.  It's odd your prices were so similar, but it happens.  He/she may also have the mobile Ebay ap, which I've fond to be a lot faster than just bidding from my PC.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MattCBR on July 15, 2012, 11:59 PM
I know, that's what I thought... until it's been happend to me for the second time now this month.

This discussion came up on some forum off a google search:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290383

Some people think they somehow hacked e-bay, or there is a computer program to make bids and then stop just before wining the auction, or even that e-bay is in on it lol.

I don't know how they do it. Except that it does happen... I guess I'll be more careful deciding what my max bid will be.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MattCBR on July 16, 2012, 12:11 AM
yeah I was watching the live bidding and the box where the ammount was (the .99 cent high bid) began flickering... I thought it was mearly re-loading the entire page... you know, to say "congrats you won" but no, it stopped at $33.59 my max bid...

When I clicked the bid history... it didn't show all those failed bids of the other person that seemed to happen in a blur... just one of them for $33.33....

IDK, nothing to lose sleep over... just wondering what other people have experienced.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: EdSolo on July 16, 2012, 07:17 AM
If the person happened to bid $33.33 at say, three seconds left, he doesn't win, because he bid lower, but it should have only bumped your bid up to $33.34, unless ebay has made more changes that automatically bumps you up by the minimum bid instead of matching or just beating a lower bid.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: R5Don4 on July 16, 2012, 07:44 AM
There are programs that will bid at the last second.  It's called sniping and it works very well.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on July 16, 2012, 07:54 AM
If the person happened to bid $33.33 at say, three seconds left, he doesn't win, because he bid lower, but it should have only bumped your bid up to $33.34, unless ebay has made more changes that automatically bumps you up by the minimum bid instead of matching or just beating a lower bid.

You have it wrong.

Case #1: 
Bidder bids $40
Sniper bids $32
End price:  $33 (because the min bid increment at that level is $1)

Case #2:
Bidder bids $39.59
Sniper bids $39.00
End price:  $39.59 (difference between bidder max and sniper is < min bid increment)

With this auction, since the snipe was $33.33 I don't think it was an instance of shilling.  People can sometimes snipe at "interesting" dollar amounts.  It just happened his snipe was within a few cents of your max, so it ended at your max.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on July 16, 2012, 08:45 AM
eBay is my second job, and I can confirm that there is NO LEGITIMATE WAY for any seller to find out what your highest bid is before the auction ends. It is not possible.

I have had many auctions end with me winning at my exact highest bid. As Bill pointed out, this is because someone bid just below me at the last second and pushed my winning bid to its max based on the increment for that pricepoint.

I think shilling, much like scalping in the toy community, is one of those things that is grossly overhyped. It does happen, I'm sure, but there is always an inherent risk that comes with not knowing how much to bid without going OVER the highest bid. I can't speak to "hacking" and so forth but I suspect eBay, like Google, has an entire team of super-geeks paid to figure out all that stuff.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on July 16, 2012, 09:59 AM
There are illegitimate ways to manipulate ebay. I believe it is possible to write a snipping robot that will up the bid until it wins. Then it retracts the last bid via the seller killing the last bid. It's done automatically. I bet with a little research, I could find such a robot.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on July 16, 2012, 10:21 AM
Seems like that'd be really obvious in bid history, though... especially since retracted bids are recorded.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 16, 2012, 12:03 PM
Seems like that'd be really obvious in bid history, though... especially since retracted bids are recorded.

Exactly.  If you saw multiple bids in the history, then I think you've got shenanigans.  I don't know how it could erase the history from Ebay as well.  I'll also note that I can't recall the last time I won an auction and did NOT see someone else bidding it up in the last few seconds.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MattCBR on July 17, 2012, 12:53 AM
Thanks for all the replies, I'm obviously not going to lose sleep over it, but I've always suspected shilling was possible.

Guys spend endless hours to hack their favorite online RPG game to either take advantage of other players or even the game it's self by having the program play your high level character for you all day gaining you experience, loot, and levels.

Considering that, it's not far fetched there'd be people out there to write shilling programs or even snipping programs to make money.... Ebay can't complain because their sellers are getting top dollar (and they in turn get higher returns)... it's a mutually advantageous relationship, and most buyers are none the wiser.
 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on July 17, 2012, 01:30 AM
Ebay can't complain because their sellers are getting top dollar (and they in turn get higher returns)... it's a mutually advantageous relationship, and most buyers are none the wiser.

Ebay most definitely can complain.  If they allowed that type of behavior to persist, it would hurt the reputation of their website and reduce their traffic.  I would be shocked if they knowingly allowed this sort of stuff.  To the contrary, they have explicit policies (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/seller-shill-bidding.html) against shill bidding.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MattCBR on July 18, 2012, 12:15 AM
thanks for the policy link. I'd report it, but I think I got a good deal on the figures even if I got shilled.

Ebay saying shilling is illegal is like the police saying speeding is illegal... without shilling and speeders... both would make less money:)

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 18, 2012, 12:48 AM
I have found Ebay to be VERY hands off on this kind of thing.  They write up policies to say they don't tolerate this or that and that they will protect your purchase...that's all just to make you feel good about using them.  I have notified them about fraudulent practices before and they do just what you'd expect - "we will look into it" and then nothing changes.  Make no mistake, they are in the game to make money just like everyone else.   I don't think they are promoting behaviors that cheat buyers, but they clearly have a hands off approach to any kind of customer service or investigation into bad sellers. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MattCBR on July 18, 2012, 03:00 AM
+1, I've had two blatant instances of attempted fraud on me... one where a guy bought a motorcycle fairing from me and then attempted to return his original broken fairing and say the one I shipped him was broke... the second theif sold me a broken new Amplifier in the box that was guaranteed to work and attempted to back out of his own return policy and keep all my money.

Both lost their cases with paypal and I got my money... however; when I contacted e-bay to remove the false bad feedback off my profile they left and punish/ban the accounts of the clearly bad e-bayers... they said "they'd look into it"

Needless to say the bad feedback never got removed AND the two e-bayers never got banned (after multiple tries)... one did end up ending his account after getting swamped with bad feedback, and the other guy is still racking up bad feedback every five purchases or sells just about lol.

E-bay sucks, but at least paypal has good investigations and I've always had them find the truth, see through the B.S., and handle cases promptly and effectively.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2012, 09:44 PM
Shilling is definately a real phenomenon though- I had an auction a year or so ago where 5 minutes before the end of an auction my bid was pushed up to the max, passed, then the high bidder "canceled" the last bid, making mine the winner. It looked a little fishy, as the other bidder had only 1 feedback, from that same seller. I went back in to the 2nd bidders history, and found they had retracted multiple winning bids, and I am sure they were for the same seller. Long story short, they get a second account set up and used it to run up bids. I refused to pay for the item, explaining to ebay by phone it was very clear they had a case of fraud. I never heard about it again.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on July 19, 2012, 11:17 PM
Shilling is definately a real phenomenon though- I had an auction a year or so ago where 5 minutes before the end of an auction my bid was pushed up to the max, passed, then the high bidder "canceled" the last bid, making mine the winner. It looked a little fishy, as the other bidder had only 1 feedback, from that same seller. I went back in to the 2nd bidders history, and found they had retracted multiple winning bids, and I am sure they were for the same seller. Long story short, they get a second account set up and used it to run up bids. I refused to pay for the item, explaining to ebay by phone it was very clear they had a case of fraud. I never heard about it again.

I had a similar experience with a Kube chase - can't remember which one.  I recall watching the bids pass my minimum, then was shocked to see the email confirming that I won.  I ended up buying it though because it was still a good price.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: P-Siddy on July 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
I had a similar experience with a Kube chase - can't remember which one.  I recall watching the bids pass my minimum, then was shocked to see the email confirming that I won.  I ended up buying it though because it was still a good price.

Yes, but just think:  you could have gotten it for an even better price.  Of course, it only matters to the buyer whether the price is right or not..
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: solrac on August 7, 2012, 09:59 PM
I think if it got out that eBay was involved there would be a class action law suit and they would be in some real problems.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on August 10, 2012, 07:47 AM
I think if it got out that eBay was involved there would be a class action law suit and they would be in some real problems.

How would Ebay be "involved" though from an evidence standpoint.  They don't condone it and their interface prevents it to some extent.  If someone else is writing code to circumvent that, then they could be doing more to fight that, but it makes a third party liable - not Ebay.  I think they're just fine from a legal standpoint.  I would be much more afraid of possible reaction from the general public if news of this hit the mainstream media - that could seriously hurt their transactions even if it's an extremely rare occurrance.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dan on August 12, 2012, 08:23 AM
I think ebay could be held liable to some degree even just for turning the other way when shilling is brought to their attention. They have policies against it, but a financial incentive (higher fees on higher selling prices) if it happens. I think they are probably monitored to some extent by FTC or other, agency that they are indeed enforcing their own policies. I would guess it happens from time to time on a small scale, they do something about it when it is brought to their attention with a suspension or what not, and they spend most of their efforts looking for the big fish that could really land them in hot water.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on October 14, 2012, 08:56 PM
So I tried to sell an old Laptop that I don't use anymore on eBay this week.  I guess I aimed too high with the price, because despite lots of watchers, I didn't get any bids. 

So I go to re-list it and I get this message:

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You can not submit your listing due to the following problems

You're almost done with your listing. There's just one more thing to do. It looks like you don't have a reimbursement payment method on file with us. Sellers must have a reimbursement payment method on file under our Buyer Protection Policy.

In order to complete your listing, please add your reimbursement payment method now . Once you're done, you'll be able to review and submit your listing.

Note: You can always change your selected reimbursement payment method in My eBay or cancel your reimbursement payment method by contacting us. Learn more about what eBay Buyer Protection means to sellers.

Anyone else dealt with that?  At a glance, I'm really not okay with this.  Every unpleasant eBay interaction I've ever had has been because a buyer tried to lie about what I'd sold them.  I had a lady tell me that the camera I mailed her didn't work, I had a guy tell me a T-shirt I sold was stained... stuff that I flat out know is bogus.

This policy seems like a way to totally screw sellers based on the word of a buyer, and I'm thinking the computer just goes onto Craig's List instead.  I Googled this policy and it sounds like it's been around for a year or so at least... so I'm also wondering why I was able to list the Laptop (and the other item I did sell last week) but am getting this triggered now when I'm trying to sell it at a lower price.

Lastly, that other item I sold... I noticed now that eBay is charging a commission on your shipping price.

What in the hell is that?  Why on earth does eBay feel entitled to take money on the cost of shipping?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on October 15, 2012, 09:14 AM
I'd guess because many sellers prop up low prices with exorbitant shipping fees.  Smart shoppers look at the total cost, but I am sure there are plenty that don't (the crowd that calls a $4.98 item a $4 item).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on October 15, 2012, 10:44 AM
Yeah, the shipping surcharge has been around awhile and was an effort to stop people from selling stuff for 99 cents with a $35 shipping charge and so on.

I don't charge for shipping anymore because I got annoyed when people asked me to combine shipping charges for multiple items won. They get very pushy in this regard so I just build the shipping costs into ther price of the item.

I have not gotten the re-imburse message before, but I may have set this up previously and just forgot. I clearly state in all my auctions that I do not accept returns, but that doesn't stop me from getting screwed under that ridiculous buyer protection policy.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scockery on October 15, 2012, 11:53 AM
I think everything wrong with Ebay is related to them wanting to be seen as a real retailer and not an online auction site that everyday people can list stuff on, i.e., what made them rich.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: iFett on October 15, 2012, 12:10 PM
I got a 10 year anniversary message/email from eBay a few weeks ago. 

I feel old.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on October 15, 2012, 06:40 PM
Whatever they're thinking, I'm about done with that website.  I can't remember the last time I bought something there but I still go occasionally to sell,  but I sold an item for $45 last week and ended up paying damn near $10 in fees after eBay and Paypal (yeah, I know, same company) got done taking their chunks.

They've really gone too far to make it worth my time and effort, especially when I can sell on Craig's List for free without having to box anything up.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on October 15, 2012, 11:24 PM
Second that.  They've basically killed it for sellers, and I don't even sell really.  It's enough for me to not look at it much anymore.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scockery on October 30, 2012, 03:31 PM
I sold a CD where the disc look new, unscratched.

Buyer gets it, says it won't play right. I can only assume they are being truthful, even if they aren't...ebay would take their side.

Lesson here is, listen to everything I sell...which is hard, especially when I get music I dislike (sometimes I get lots of CDs for cheap at yard sales). Or never sell CD's on ebay. I'm leaning towards never sell. All the hassle to make sometimes as little as a dollar, then LOSE money because someone wants a full refund.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on October 30, 2012, 10:39 PM
I used to sell a lot of CD's on eBay, and I agree the profit margin is generally not worth the effort. I will still do it from time to time, but in general there's not much of a heated market for recorded music anymore it seems like. Yet weirdly, it's pretty much the only place you can find actually music anymore though, it's amazing how quickly record stores went the way of the dinosaur.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 19, 2013, 10:26 PM
So, I sold an item on eBay.  It was a running shoe... a single shoe, not a pair.  Collectors are into this apparently.  Auction clearly stated "right shoe only" and contained high-res photos of the single shoe.  The auction also stated clearly that I don't do returns or exchanges.  So, someone buy's it now and I shipped it out last week.

Today I get this email:

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"I do not want this item don't like and will return today. Received today 8/19/2013."

I respond:

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Hello,

I'm sorry that you do not like the shoe, but my auction clearly states no returns or exchanges. I'm not a shoe store, I was selling a collectible sample shoe and every detail about that shoe was clearly and honestly stated in the auction.

Please do not mail it back.

Thank you,
-Rob

I'm assuming this guy/gal isn't going to be happy about this and it might very well lead to negative feedback, even though I don't think I did anything at all to deserve it. 

Two questions...

1 - Is there any way to fight feedback on eBay these days?
2 - What happens if this clown mails me back the shoe?  I'm not giving them a refund, and I'm not spending another $8 to mail it back to him. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on August 19, 2013, 11:36 PM
First off, I'm shocked there is a market for single running shoes.  What the hell would you do with it?  Display someone else's shoe?  Seriously, I'm never taking **** for collecting Star Wars ever again.

Secondly, I think the worst the guy can do is give you negative feedback.  When he does, you get a chance to respond to it and it shows up when ppl search it.  If you just have one mark, I wouldn't worry much about it.  He has no right to demand a refund if you specifically stated you don't accept them and described the item accurately.

Lastly, if you are concerned about a negative, then you could offer to accept the item back, but the guy has to cover your initial shipping cost and the cost to return it.  He probably wouldn't be interested in paying shipping twice and getting nothing for it, but this would be a way to show some kind of offer back to him.  That might be enough to avoid the dreaded negative.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 20, 2013, 05:53 AM
Hmmm. That's a tough one. On one hand you seem to have clearly stated what the auction was, but on the other hand it's bad to have a dissatisfied customer. It depends how much money we're talking here. Can we see the auction?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Diddly on August 20, 2013, 05:58 AM
Yeah apparently there are shoe collectors out there. Apparently they release new versions of shoes each year like cars, and people obsess with collecting them like we do with each rereleased Darth Vader figure.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on August 20, 2013, 09:24 AM
It's hard for me to see how eBay could side with the buyer if they do end up opening a case. The item description was clear and obvious, you had pictures, and it clearly stated "No refunds".

"I do not want this item don't like" is not likely to be considered a compelling reason to rule in his favor.

He can't really complain that the item is "signifcantly not as described" either which is the usual ploy. They will be able to review the communication history and determine this was just buyer remorse.

The only wrinkle would be if he does send it back to you. Not sure if/how that impact the ruling. They might actually ask you to re-ship it, but I don't see how they could force you.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 20, 2013, 09:56 AM
I can see a market for one shoe. My son wears a leg brace and we always have to buy him two pairs of shoes since one foot is bigger than the other one. Some shoe stores give a discount for this situation.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 20, 2013, 11:36 AM
Hmmm. That's a tough one. On one hand you seem to have clearly stated what the auction was, but on the other hand it's bad to have a dissatisfied customer. It depends how much money we're talking here. Can we see the auction?

I don't see why not... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/111141334575?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649) - for the record, I misspoke earlier, this auction was for a left shoe... "Left Shoe Sample Only" is what I said.

I had 6 total shoes, and on the four that didn't get bought early I added a note with 3 or 4 days to go that said "I've gotten a few questions, so I want to re-iterate that this auction is not for a pair of shoes. It is for one sample shoe (right shoe) - auction is for collectors or people looking to replace one shoe."

So, I don't anticipate any problems with those... but I could see people who just look at the photo, assume that no one would ever sell just one shoe, and bidding without thinking twice.

I'm not terribly worried about it I suppose.  It was $40 and I ate about $3 on the shipping ($6 didn't cover it).  Over the years I've gotten 3, maybe 4 negative feedbacks and every single time it was from inexperienced dolt over-reacting or mis-understanding something and just leaving feedback.   

It's hard for me to see how eBay could side with the buyer if they do end up opening a case. The item description was clear and obvious, you had pictures, and it clearly stated "No refunds".

"I do not want this item don't like" is not likely to be considered a compelling reason to rule in his favor.

He can't really complain that the item is "signifcantly not as described" either which is the usual ploy. They will be able to review the communication history and determine this was just buyer remorse.

The only wrinkle would be if he does send it back to you. Not sure if/how that impact the ruling. They might actually ask you to re-ship it, but I don't see how they could force you.

That's my thinking too, that he shot himself in the foot (yuck yuck) by starting the conversation off about how he didn't like the item. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 20, 2013, 12:15 PM
Well I would side with you (and you know how much it pains me to say that) if I were at eBay and someone opened a case.

So if he passes the baton to eBay and puts in a claim, don't run from your position, you went the extra mile with your description so just stay in the race until you cross the finish line.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 20, 2013, 12:32 PM
Thanks.  That's where I'm at as well... hopefully I just don't hear from this guy again.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2013, 08:11 PM
Well, that guy never wrote me back (because he was dead wrong), but another one has.  And this one isn't going away quietly.  Despite the auction saying:"

- Right Running Shoe Size W 7 (Auction Title)
- Right Running Shoe - Size Women's 7
- Right Shoe Sample Only.

And featuring a note added with four days to go:

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I've gotten a few questions, so I want to re-iterate that this auction is not for a pair of shoes. It is for one sample shoe (right shoe) - auction is for collectors or people looking to replace one shoe.

And despite my clear no returns and no exchanges policy at the top of the auction, this one is going to open a case and insists that they're sending the shoe back tomorrow even though I've told them three times not to.  Apparently people are freaking morons on eBay.

So, get your bets in now... will eBay side with this guy:

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"I'm sorry too I did not read it well or I misunderstood. I hope you will consider for me to return the shoe because I do not really need it.I will return it to you as soon as possible.Thank you and I hope you understand."

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"Well I told you I do not need it and I DON'T SELL IN EBAY. I understand what you have stated in your policy no return no exchange but it can always be reversible because it is covered by ebay buyer protection. You will expect the returned item not later this week and I will provide you the tracking number. Thank you."

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"Besides as a seller you do not implement no return nor exchanges policy because wherever you go there is always returns and exchanges specially if customer is not satisfied with the product,is defective or there is confusion in your listing. It supposed to be stated in the item's ad..ONE PIECE SHOE/WITHOUT A PAIR. not RIGHT RUNNING SHOE."

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"I will provide you the tracking number as I've said. In this situation it is my right to open a case in ebay. Will send the soe within this week. Thanks!"

Or no?

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 21, 2013, 08:22 PM
Better side with you...  He seems to have a bit of an issue with English there, so I can understand if he's confused, but his confusion isn't your problem.  **** him.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2013, 08:44 PM
I offered them a 50% refund because they won't stop emailing me.  We'll see if they take it or not.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 21, 2013, 09:11 PM
I'd have fought it out I guess...  But that's me.  He's a knob either way.  By all means post his Ebay ID here for us.  :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on August 21, 2013, 09:31 PM
Oh man, that is painful...what a weakener. I DREAD any buyers like that winning one of my auctions.

I think you are clearly in the right here, but I also know how ridiculously slanted eBay is towards the buyer in most disputes.

I could see them possibly refunding him but not taking the money away from you either. I believe I have heard of them eating it like that in the past. One can hope anyway.

I hope it works out! You need a hilarious moron-proof disclaimer in the future auctions. ("THIS IS FOR ONE (1) SHOE! UNO! NOT a pair. Please contact me if you need help understanding how many 1 is. Spoiler alert: It's less than 2.")

 ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 21, 2013, 09:38 PM
Write "return to sender" on the box if you get it and pull the money out of any account where it can be taken from you.

And post his ebay Id so we can all take turns bidding on his auctions and ask how many shoes come with it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2013, 09:48 PM
Write "return to sender" on the box if you get it and pull the money out of any account where it can be taken from you.

And post his ebay Id so we can all take turns bidding on his auctions and ask how many shoes come with it.

I'd love to, the only problem is that eBay makes all sellers have a credit card on file these days, and they make you accept terms on an agreement that says that they can charge your card for refunds to buyers as they see fit.  I find that despicable, but if they side with the seller, there's not much I can do about it other than dispute the charge with the credit card company.  It really has turned to **** over the last few years, and if I end up getting screwed here, it'll be the last time I sell there.

Out of 6 of these auctions, I've gotten FOUR people asking me where the other shoe is, ******* knuckleheads every last one of them.  Two of them haven't replied to my explanation of the details, two have made a stink about it.  The two that did, I've offered 50% refunds just to hopefully avoid negative feedback, but the whole thing is idiotic.


I hope it works out! You need a hilarious moron-proof disclaimer in the future auctions. ("THIS IS FOR ONE (1) SHOE! UNO! NOT a pair. Please contact me if you need help understanding how many 1 is. Spoiler alert: It's less than 2.")

 ;)

As funny as that sounds, I'm pretty much going to have to do that on the re-lists... the opening line will be PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS CAREFULLY and then I'll be even more shockingly redundant.  There were plenty of closed auctions for single sample shoes so I assumed this was relatively straightforward but as luck would have it, there are an awful lot of idiots who buy shoes on eBay.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on August 21, 2013, 10:43 PM
Apologies if I missed this Rob, but did anyone actually ask if was a pair or individual shoe DURING the auction? I really don't envy your position, as it seems like you're getting to deal with everything I despise all at once: people complaining but not following up, people not reading, and just general stubbornness. I hope the issues get resolved in your favor.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2013, 11:23 PM
Yep, one person emailed me to confirm and said that they were looking for pairs - and after getting that email I added the note to the auctions being overly redundant and clear.  That was with about four days to go.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: P-Siddy on August 22, 2013, 08:24 AM
It's probably a case of buying something (or bidding on) that they see (your sample picture) without reading the description, which is their own problem, not yours.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dan on August 22, 2013, 08:48 AM
But  as Rob pointed out, ebay is totally skewed toward buyers in these cases.

The buyers are what keep ebay in the money, and Ebay has no interest in actually mediating disputes. Thatwould take time, manpower, and they would still end up with buyers feeling they should take their money elsewhere, which is exactly what ebay wants to avoid. They will let sellers eat it everytime, because it is a single sale. That inept bidder may go on to complete many more successful transactions if they are kept happy.

Despite no return policies, ebay can hold the funds via paypal, or charge the credit card on file, so sellers have no recourse to not return the funds.

I side with you Rob, but I would bet nearly anything ebay sides with the buyer.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on August 22, 2013, 09:27 AM
What's the profit margin for single sample shoes on eBay?  Seems like a lot of hassle.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on August 22, 2013, 09:35 AM
But  as Rob pointed out, ebay is totally skewed toward buyers in these cases.

That isn't completely true. In my only experience opening a case against a seller, I actually lost. I got some figures that reeked of cigarette smoke, and the seller had described them as "great condition", "mint condition", etc. Never mentioned any odors. The seller offered to take a return, but wanted me to assume all shipping costs (around $20). I thought that was BS, and since the item wasn't as described I would open a case with eBay. Well, eBay decided that cigarette odor matched the "used" description and that I merely didn't want the item, so they ruled in the sellers favor.

I have read a couple of similar stories over the past year or so of buyers getting shoddy items, but losing "not as described" cases because of the "used" tag/description. I'm sure that is the exception to the rule, but dealing with eBay as a buyer CAN go both ways.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2013, 10:37 AM
What's the profit margin for single sample shoes on eBay?  Seems like a lot of hassle.

You'd be surprised at how many people collect Nike stuff... and there's always a market for people who only need one shoe.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 22, 2013, 01:20 PM
You'd have cleaned up after the civil war.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 23, 2013, 03:33 PM
The plot thickens... the first guy went ahead and ignored my reply and sent the shoe back anyway.  So now I have the shoe and no intention of giving him a refund.  This is going to be fun...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 23, 2013, 06:35 PM
Yep.

The second girl just opened her case... I offered her a 50% refund and she ignored me.  I've decided to let it be a test case for me.  If they find in her favor, I won't sell there again.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on August 23, 2013, 07:31 PM
Yep.

The second girl just opened her case... I offered her a 50% refund and she ignored me.  I've decided to let it be a test case for me.  If they find in her favor, I won't sell there again.

I sincerely hope that eBay covers your rear on this one. This is clearly a case of the buyer just not wanting the item. To an extent it might be easier to offer returns, but you shouldn't be forced to. Also the buyers would then just complain about shipping and such and open cases anyway.

I'm extremely curious about the guy who returned the shoe so please keep us posted on how that goes. I would think that if your tracking number shows the item was delivered to the buyer it should be all good. I have no idea if eBay can force you to refund if the guy mailed the shoe of his own free will (and against your advice), but this is also eBay we're talking about...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on August 23, 2013, 08:55 PM
Or don't sell SINGLE SHOES.  Unless you open the photo in Photoshop and plaster "SINGLE RIGHT SHOE ONLY" all over the image.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 23, 2013, 11:11 PM
Or don't sell SINGLE SHOES.  Unless you open the photo in Photoshop and plaster "SINGLE RIGHT SHOE ONLY" all over the image.

I looked into completed auctions and found that there were plenty of examples of people selling single sample Nike's (presumably to collectors) to leave me with the impression that it was a relatively routine thing that happens on there.

I sincerely hope that eBay covers your rear on this one. This is clearly a case of the buyer just not wanting the item. To an extent it might be easier to offer returns, but you shouldn't be forced to. Also the buyers would then just complain about shipping and such and open cases anyway.

I'm extremely curious about the guy who returned the shoe so please keep us posted on how that goes. I would think that if your tracking number shows the item was delivered to the buyer it should be all good. I have no idea if eBay can force you to refund if the guy mailed the shoe of his own free will (and against your advice), but this is also eBay we're talking about...

I'll definitely let everyone know how it turns out now that I've involved everyone in the whole thing.  The case that was opened was that the item didn't match the description, which I don't think they'll be able to defend.  So, despite my item having a "no returns or exchanges" this is the transcript so far... get your popcorn ready:

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"I PROVIDED A TRACKING NUMBER OF THE ITEM AND IT WILL BE DELIVERED WITHIN 2-3 BUSINESS DAYS WITH INSURANCE. I WANT A FULL REFUND."

The case says they're requesting a refund of the total amount, including their shipping costs - which is even more absurd. 

Here was my reply... I figure whoever moderates this will be reading it eventually, so I'm basically stating my case already:

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"The Buyer's claim that the item was not as described is false. The auction was always for one sample Nike shoe. The auction title was clearly marked as "Right Running Shoe Size W 7". The item description said "Right Running Shoe - Size Women's 7 . Right Shoe Sample Only."

Furthermore there was a photo provided of a single shoe.  Additionally with four days remaining in the auction I added this note: "I've gotten a few questions, so I want to re-iterate that this auction is not for a pair of shoes. It is for one sample shoe (right shoe) - auction is for collectors or people looking to replace one shoe."

Lastly, the auction was clearly marked as "No Refunds or Exchanges." I do not see how I could have been more clear about this.

At this point it would be best to let eBay decide. In an earlier message the buyer admitted that they did not read the description when they said "I'm sorry too I did not read it well or I misunderstood."

My feedback history speaks for itself."

She replies:

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"I DON'T KNOW WHY THE BUYER IS VERY INCONSIDERATE.AS I'VE SAID MISTAKES DO HAPPEN.HE ADVERTISED THE SHOE AS FIT SOLE 2 SAMPLE. I GUESSED HE INTEND TO CAUSE CONFUSION TO CUSTOMERS.I RETURNED THE SHOE AND PROVIDED A TRACKING NUMBER AND STILL DOES NOT WANT TO REFUND MY MONEY.I DO NOT KNOW WHY HE IS SO INTERESTED WITH THE $73.22 WHEN IN FACT HE DID NOT LOST ANY. I LOST $8.75 SENDING BACK THE SHOE.I AM WILLING TO PAY HIS $3.75 FOR HIS EXPENSE SENDING THE SHOE.HE ALSO OVERCHARGED ME WITH THE SHIPPING WHICH IS $6.00"

And now my last reply until eBay weighs in and someone on their end makes a decision...

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1) I didn't over charge you for shipping, I have the receipt at my office and the cost to ship was more than $6.00.  The woman at the post office did something odd on the receipt where she rang me up for $5.00 in pre-paid postage per parcel that I mailed that day.  The total to ship was $5.00 more than whatever the sticker on the box said, and I can document that conclusively.

2) You have just admitted again that the mistake was yours.  I'm sorry, but this further shows that you are being dishonest when you accuse me of listing the item inaccurately. 

3) I told you 3 times that I don't take refunds and asked you not to send the shoe back, you did so anyway.  I am not responsible for that decision.

4) I listed the shoe as "Fit Sole 2 Sample" because that is EXACTLY what it was.  A 'Nike Air Max Fit Sole 2' Sample shoe. Fit Sole 2 is the model of the shoe.

Sending angry emails in all caps doesn't change the facts.  I'm done arguing about this and will wait for eBay to get involved.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt on August 24, 2013, 02:04 AM
She replies:

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"I DON'T KNOW WHY THE BUYER IS VERY INCONSIDERATE.AS I'VE SAID MISTAKES DO HAPPEN.HE ADVERTISED THE SHOE AS FIT SOLE 2 SAMPLE. I GUESSED HE INTEND TO CAUSE CONFUSION TO CUSTOMERS.I RETURNED THE SHOE AND PROVIDED A TRACKING NUMBER AND STILL DOES NOT WANT TO REFUND MY MONEY.I DO NOT KNOW WHY HE IS SO INTERESTED WITH THE $73.22 WHEN IN FACT HE DID NOT LOST ANY. I LOST $8.75 SENDING BACK THE SHOE.I AM WILLING TO PAY HIS $3.75 FOR HIS EXPENSE SENDING THE SHOE.HE ALSO OVERCHARGED ME WITH THE SHIPPING WHICH IS $6.00"

I will reimburse the $73.22 myself under the condition that this person uses it to enroll in a remedial writing course at the community college of her choosing.
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Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2013, 05:12 PM
Lol :)

This is oddly fun but Matt's offer just made it hilarious.  Seriously extend that to someone.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 24, 2013, 07:30 PM
I'm on by best behavior until we see what eBay does with the whole thing, but yeah - I've been resisting the urge to say some stuff about basic English and how to read item descriptions.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scockery on August 25, 2013, 03:03 PM
Nike's fault for naming their shoe with a number.  :P

A few years ago, I sold some chintzy plastic NFL team football helmet collectibles once and forgot to put size (not knowing there's different sizes/scales) or that "penny" comparison photo people do. On the day the auction was ending, some guy sends a questions asking what size they were.  I replied with approximate measurements, and records showed I did. He had bid on them. Paid for them. And I shipped. Then he got buyer's remorse when he discovered they weren't the ones he collected. Threatened to open a case unless he was totally refunded including shipping. I told him my eBay messages showed I replied to his question before the auction ended, and eBay doesn't cover buyer's remorse. Never heard another thing from him or eBay. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 25, 2013, 05:57 PM
New wrinkle... just bought a $6.99 item on eBay and went to pay it only to find that Paypal has a temporary charge on my account for the $79 that this woman wanted, which took the $25 I had in there and left me with about a negative $55 balance, so I can't send this guy the $6.99 without also giving Paypal everything they need to take the rest of the money from me, which I am not happy about.  This system is retarded, how about you just charge me if and when you resolve the case instead of immediately before reviewing the facts.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on August 25, 2013, 07:46 PM
In eBay and PayPal's opinion, the customer is always right.  There's no way you're coming out on top here.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on August 25, 2013, 07:51 PM
New wrinkle... just bought a $6.99 item on eBay and went to pay it only to find that Paypal has a temporary charge on my account for the $79 that this woman wanted, which took the $25 I had in there and left me with about a negative $55 balance, so I can't send this guy the $6.99 without also giving Paypal everything they need to take the rest of the money from me, which I am not happy about.  This system is retarded, how about you just charge me if and when you resolve the case instead of immediately before reviewing the facts.

Paypal's hold system is very annoying. When I first started selling a couple years back, my money would be held by Paypal for something like three weeks or until the buyer left positive feedback, whichever came first. It's understandable that Paypal/Ebay wants to prevent people from registering as sellers and scamming, but the hold system wouldn't even allow me to use money to pay for shipping labels. Everything I sold had to be mailed in-person from at the post office. Definitely a dumb setup.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2013, 09:42 PM
I rarely have sold on Ebay and this thread's every reason I won't...  They're far too biased towards buyers now, for me to ever consider selling something at this point.  I hope this works out and they're sane enough to take the correspondence into account Rob.  That's proof, but rational behavior seems out of the realm of the Ebay experience.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2013, 11:03 PM
I suppose I'm supposed to be scared, but I can't help but finding this hilarious:

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"YOU RECEIVED THE RETURNED ITEM. YOU HAVE TO RETURN MY MONEY. THAT IS NOT YOURS AND YOU DID NOT WORK FOR IT. HAVE FEAR ON YOURSELF."

And since eBay will be reading all this crap after I escalate it on Thursday:

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"Again, the auction clearly stated "no returns or exchanges" and despite being told this you just refused my offer of a compromise and sent the item back in the mail anyway. When the option becomes available on Thursday I will escalate the case to eBay and they will decide what will happen next. I am not sure what you mean by "HAVE FEAR ON YOURSELF" but I do not appreciate being yelled at or threatened."
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2013, 11:20 PM
I have fear on myself every time I eat taco bell.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on August 28, 2013, 10:01 AM
Rob, as ridiculous as it was, I would report "HAVE FEAR ON YOURSELF" to ebay as a threat. Hopefully that would just cause them to ban the guy, and save you the hassle of the case.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scockery on August 28, 2013, 11:42 AM
YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO DESTRUCTION. YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME.
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Post by: McMetal on August 28, 2013, 12:37 PM
Too funny. I assume the guy actually resides here in the USA? Scary.

I used to work in a mailorder CD distro, and we got a lot of that schtick. "YOU WILL NOT SLEEP WELL TONIGHT!" was one of my favorites. As if. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 28, 2013, 05:58 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/base_cats2_zpsdd2b251c.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 28, 2013, 08:42 PM
I sent to you your shoe and now you will tremble.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on August 28, 2013, 10:28 PM
(http://cdn.themetapicture.com/media/funny-wife-shoes-eBay.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2013, 10:57 AM
Escalated this morning.  Fortunately / unfortunately this means I can no longer communicate with the buyer.  So, no more fun, but probably less than 48 hours from them ruling in her favor and the whole thing going away.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on August 29, 2013, 11:43 AM
I can't believe they have not decided in your favor yet. Just seems ridiculous at this point.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2013, 12:41 PM
No one's even looked at it yet.  You have to wait four days before you can escalate it up to their customer service.  And as much as I hate to say it, I'm 99% sure that Bill's right and they'll side with her.  From everything I've read, buyers up and down have learned that they can abuse the claim system when they **** up or get buyer's remorse.  Most likely they'll send her her money and that'll be the end of it... I'll appeal, but nothing will happen, and then she'll leave me negative feedback.  At least she really did return the item, sometimes people say they are doing that but damage them first or send other things in the box.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on August 29, 2013, 06:16 PM
Yeah, its true though. I sold a few extra MOTUC figures before moving and for one of them the guy just stated he changes his mind and wasnt going to pay. They just ended up removing the transaction because the buy changed his mind.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aright, so here's the resolution.

Within about 5 hours, they'd ruled in the buyer's favor.  Then this morning she left me negative feedback.

They took $80 from me and sent it back to her with this note:

"Unfortunately, it looks like the refund you agreed to issue was never sent to your buyer. We've issued it and now need you to reimburse us."

So this morning I called their customer support to appeal and discuss, because the reason for finding in the buyer's favor didn't seem to match up with ANY of the details from the case.  I explained to the nice woman that the listing was clear, I had asked her not to return the shoe, that it was an obvious case of buyer's remorse, that she'd lied when she said the item wasn't as described, and that she'd been belligerent in her contact with me.

I explained that I had listed no returns, no exchanges and questioned what that policy was in place for if any buyer could just drop the item in the mail against my request and then demand a refund on false pretenses, and that I was concerned that whoever ruled the first time didn't really understand the details of what had happened.

So she put me back on hold, and 5 minutes later reversed everything.

They're refunding me, they're refunding my eBay fees for that listing, they're reversing the decision so I don't have a strike on my account, and they're going to remove the negative feedback.

So, I suppose I win for now even if it was a pain in the ass.

EDIT:  Got off the phone 10 minutes ago and already have the refund, and the negative feedback is already gone.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2013, 04:34 PM
Pain in the ass?  Yes.

Worth the effort you put in to **** over that smarmy bitch?  Yes.

It's a win for you as it should be, though one you had to work to get.  Clearly some rubber stamp process is in place there though...  Don't even remotely check details.  Lame.  eBay still sucks a big fat nut.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: P-Siddy on August 30, 2013, 04:37 PM
Glad it went your way, Rob, though it should have in the first place.  It's sad that you had to call them and appeal the case.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on August 30, 2013, 04:40 PM
I'm glad you were able to "win" Rob. Dealing with eBay's customer service is a HUGE pain, either by phone or thru the "resolution center". Hopefully they ban the idiot who bought the shoe and complained.

Also, did the phone rep ask you to return the shoe to the buyer? Or do you get to keep it as a trophy?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2013, 04:45 PM
Gold plate it.  Put a little placard on it that says its rightful place is up that woman's ass.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2013, 04:55 PM
Thanks everyone.  They didn't ask me to send it back and we didn't discuss what happens on the other end of the sale.

I got the impression that eBay is going to eat the money that they just reimbursed me, but I don't know if ultimately they'll charge her for it or not.  From talking to the woman at customer service, everything I (we) have been saying the whole time applied.  There was a do-not-return, at no point did I invite her to return it (in fact the record showed that I repeatedly told her not to send it back), and she found nothing misleading or unclear about the listing.

So, it leads me to think that a lot of eBay's reputation as being buyer-centric probably comes from less qualified people deciding on these cases and then sellers not following up - but that's just speculation based on my experience of course.

Once it became clear to the rep I spoke with that the item was as described and the no-returns policy was in place, it was a clear cut case of buyer's remorse and the buyer had inappropriately accused me of selling something that wasn't as described to abuse the buyer protection policy. 

I'm assuming I won't have any contact with the buyer from here on out, and I'll never find out if she's going to pay that money or not, but all's well on my end.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2013, 05:39 PM
We need to know what her negative feedback said. eBay will now have fear on itself.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2013, 05:45 PM
I should have copied it, but it seems to be gone now.

Predictably I remember it was in all caps and (I'm paraphrasing in similarly broken English) said something to the effect of BUYER IS INCONSIDERATE PERSON TRIED TO KEEP MY MONEY - U GOT WHAT U WANT'D
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2013, 06:24 PM
I should have copied it, but it seems to be gone now.

Predictably I remember it was in all caps and (I'm paraphrasing in similarly broken English) said something to the effect of BUYER IS INCONSIDERATE PERSON TRIED TO KEEP MY MONEY - U GOT WHAT U WANT'D

Of course if they wanted to leave the feedback about you instead of themselves they would've started with "seller".
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2013, 08:07 PM
Yeah, seller...

Freudian slip I suppose.   :)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on August 30, 2013, 11:07 PM
I can't believe it initially went in the buyers favor though. Pretty messed up.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Scockery on August 30, 2013, 11:36 PM
If they ban the woman, she'll be back.

Months ago, I had a guy bid on DVD's, never pay and I had to wait for the case to resolve.

I relisted the DVD's, same guy under a new name did the same thing again. He did it to a lot of people. Just messed up in the head.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2013, 11:56 PM
Fear...  Fear will keep the local sellers of one shoe in line...  Fear of ones self.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2013, 08:28 AM
Good for you Rob, but what a pain. The default cookie cutter "outcome" seems to be the buyer is always right, unless the seller will spend enough time on it to prove it, no matter how ludicrous and clear the events were.

Even then, I think you were fortunate to end up with someone in CS that listened.

Well done on your part, because even a tiny jab back at the buyer at any point, or a hot head on the phone, and it could have gone the other way.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 31, 2013, 11:10 AM
I just went to "like" Jesse's post and realized I wasn't on fb.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMoses on September 7, 2013, 12:11 AM
I got scammed on an autograph.  Should have had my BS detectors up a bit more, but it seemed pretty legit.  It was on an authentic All Star Baseball, so the forger put some money into the item.  Now to see what happens with the communication.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on September 7, 2013, 08:30 AM
I got scammed on an autograph.  Should have had my BS detectors up a bit more, but it seemed pretty legit.  It was on an authentic All Star Baseball, so the forger put some money into the item.  Now to see what happens with the communication.

That stinks.  Did it arrive and you realized it was fake?  How could you tell?  I've always been skeptical of autograph stuff.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediMoses on September 7, 2013, 03:40 PM
Yeah, the picture wasn't clear enough to tell.  I compared to known authentic ones and there are a couple of things off.  Then I logged on to an autograph collector site and discovered that the "authenticator" is an exposed forger. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on September 9, 2013, 01:52 PM
I don't know if its me, but it seems like eBay buyers are getting a lot more flaky.

I don't remember having more than a couple of issues in the first 10 years of eBay.  Those I just chalked up to a$$holes.

I just listed about 70 SW MicroMachines the other day and about 2/3 of the completed auctions completed without a hitch, but 12 days later I'm still waiting for payment on 1/3 of the stuff.

I also have had a bunch of problems recently with people complaining about the condition of items I've sold.  It's gotten so bad that I don't even describe the condition as anything other than "new".  "Minor shelf wear" apparently mean "mint, without a single solitary mark" to some buyers.

And similar to Rob's issue, it seems like a lot of the eBay buyers thinks everyone is a retail store that they can just send stuff back to and expect free shipping.

I miss the days when it was just people sell stuff out of their basement and people were generally nice about it.

   
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2013, 04:41 PM
12 days later?  I file non-paying bidder forms after 4 unless I get a really good excuse in the mail.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 17, 2014, 12:15 PM
Latest eBay drama...

Okay... so I sold a bunch of army builders last month.  I don't sell to other countries, but this guy in Denmark asks really nicely to buy 3 AT-AT drivers so I say okay.

I charge him $10 to ship and the actual cost was $9.45.  He asks me what I spent and I tell him, and he has the nerve to ask for a $0.55 refund.  Never mind that it's shipping AND handling... that eBay now takes fees out of your shipping charges... I don't want an upset customer over $0.55, so I send him the money.

Fast forward a week or so and he gets the package and is very upset that there aren't action figure stands with the figures.  He correctly points out that I listed them as complete with all their accessories.  I of course meant helmets, weapons, backpacks, etc... and forgot all about the fact that they ever had stands.

Being as shipping them back to me would be cost prohibitive, I offer him a $5 refund to compensate (he only spent $4.99 per figure).  He replies that this isn't good enough, and that tracking down stands will be difficult, and that last time he did this they cost him $2.50 each.  Never mind how outrageous that all is, I cough up the $7.50 because an extra $2.50 isn't worth negative feedback to me.

Fast forward again and he's left me positive feedback (yay).  I decline to leave him feedback.

He emails me and asks me to leave him positive feedback.  I ignore his email.

Now today, two weeks later, he emails me again asking me to leave him positive feedback.

So, my question... can he revise the feedback he already left me and turn it negative if he gets mad at me for not leaving him positive feedback?

What I WANT to do, is send him an email detailing exactly why I consider him to be a pain in the ass and won't be leaving him positive feedback or making exceptions for international buyers in the future, but don't want to do this if he can change his feedback retroactively.
 


Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on January 17, 2014, 01:10 PM
So, my question... can he revise the feedback he already left me and turn it negative if he gets mad at me for not leaving him positive feedback?

Nope, he can't revise it unless you submit a Feedback revision request.  Can Feedback be changed or removed? (http://pages.ebay.ca/help/feedback/questions/remove.html)

eBay members need to understand that sellers /buyers do not have the right to influence your feedback or demand positive as a condition for refunds.

I have not received feedback for sellers that I posted a positive for. Don't see my crying the blues, that's the way they wan't to play... **** em!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on January 17, 2014, 04:28 PM
What a hassle.  I would just continue to ignore him.  You can certainly leave him nuetral feedback as well detailing your experience.  Not the nicest thing for him, but a good warning to others.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on January 17, 2014, 05:04 PM
I would just ignore him too.  I've left neutral feedback for crappy buyers only to receive a flurry of angry responses.

Its just one of the fun parts of eBay  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Nicklab on January 17, 2014, 05:07 PM
Agreed.  It's the eBay version of dealing with a troll.  Don't leave feedback, and in time he'll go away.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on January 17, 2014, 08:15 PM
Wow, that guy sounds annoying. He can't revise the feedback he left, so you don't have to worry about any repercussions by ignoring him. Sellers can't leave neutral feedbacks for buyers anymore, but you aren't forced to submit a positive feedback. Some sellers leave positive feedbacks with negative comments, but personally I don't like that practice. I recommend just continuing to ignore the buyer and also adding him to your blocked bidder list, which should block him from sending messages to you.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 17, 2014, 10:56 PM
Thanks guys.  I called eBay a little while after I posted to look into it, and they told me what you guys did.  He can leave a comment on the positive feedback that he already left, but he can't change it - so it won't go into the percentages at least.  I'm going to take the high road once more time and ignore him, but he's already on strike 2.  If he asks again, I probably won't be able to resist telling him (nicely) why I'm doing what I did.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2014, 03:33 PM
I hate you Rob. 

Completely irrationally I'm blaming you for what just happened to me on EBay.  I believe I just got hosed by a Mexican buyer that claims an item never arrived.  I didn't provide tracking because to ship from Canada to Mexico is stupid expensive and the buyer declined.  I decided to be a nice guy and ship to him anyway (I am a fool) and he filed for non-delivery.  Well, without tracking I have no proof and no way will EBay side with me.  Not even going to try and fight this one but two crappy postal systems = disaster for me.  I'm out $50 and no way am I shipping to Mexico ever again. 

I don't believe the problem was at the Canadian end either as I shipped seven other auctions out the same day as the one to Mexico and they all arrived.  I know this because (miraculously) I received feedback on all of the other auctions. 

Stoopid eBay.  Stupider seller.   >:( :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on January 20, 2014, 04:09 PM
Any chance it is still on its way?  I bought something from China a few months back and it literally took a full month to get to me for some reason.  Guess they are making delivery by rowboat these days.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 20, 2014, 06:07 PM
I hate you Rob. 

Completely irrationally I'm blaming you for what just happened to me on EBay.  I believe I just got hosed by a Mexican buyer that claims an item never arrived.  I didn't provide tracking because to ship from Canada to Mexico is stupid expensive and the buyer declined.  I decided to be a nice guy and ship to him anyway (I am a fool) and he filed for non-delivery.  Well, without tracking I have no proof and no way will EBay side with me.  Not even going to try and fight this one but two crappy postal systems = disaster for me.  I'm out $50 and no way am I shipping to Mexico ever again. 

I don't believe the problem was at the Canadian end either as I shipped seven other auctions out the same day as the one to Mexico and they all arrived.  I know this because (miraculously) I received feedback on all of the other auctions. 

Stoopid eBay.  Stupider seller.   >:( :P

For your hail mary... call eBay directly.  When I had the issue with the dumb girl over the running shoe, a phone call sorted it all out.  If you have solid feedback and are nice to the person you talk to, you might be able to explain that you had good reason to not pay for tracking, and that this guy is clearly abusing the system to steal from you.

Definitely worth a shot.  They gave me my money back and removed the negative feedback that girl left me. 

But yeah, my bad.  Sorry for ******* that up for you.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2014, 07:10 PM
A month from China is typical for them if it's not air...  It's usually cheaper to go that route, but takes about that long on everything I ever ordered.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2014, 09:37 PM
Any chance it is still on its way?  I bought something from China a few months back and it literally took a full month to get to me for some reason.  Guess they are making delivery by rowboat these days.

Every chance it's still on the way.  I don't know Mexico well but I have to imagine that the postal system isn't any better than Canada's.  I mailed it on December 11th, so I'll give the buyer credit for waiting a good while (nearly six weeks) but that doesn't mean it isn't coming. 

As for calling ebay, no dice.  Responsibility for tracking is mine, even if I can prove I offered it and it was declined (which I can from the messages).  The tracking is to protect me, without it, the "buyer has no proof I shipped".   :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on January 20, 2014, 11:34 PM
Sucks, this is exactly why I do not ship to foreign countries and require tracking on all domestic shipments. Just too much potential for trouble and fraud otherwise.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on January 21, 2014, 09:59 AM
I had a similar issue just last month. 

In November I shipped a package to Chile via first class mail as advertised with no tracking.  It took two months to get there.  :o :o

I ship internationally frequently as I find I get better bids from international people and I've never had an issue before (just sold my entire 140 item 12" collection and 2/3 of it was purchased by international bidders).  Luckily this person was very patient and didn't get too cranky.  But because of this issue I've decided not to ship any other way than Priority mail.  I've made a few exceptions for shipping first class to Canada, but will not ship any other way internationally. 

Hopefully that protects me when it comes to angry/unreasonable eBayers.  It seemed to help on a recent shipment that was stuck in customs in Germany for a month.  The tracking number showed the package made it to Germany and was sitting in a holding area, so the purchaser was able to direct his anger at the German postal service and not me.

If I could avoid eBay to clear out the extras in my collection I would.  I just don't know of any great other options.  I've only had tepid response from listing things on Craigslist.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 21, 2014, 10:41 AM
If I could avoid eBay to clear out the extras in my collection I would.  I just don't know of any great other options.  I've only had tepid response from listing things on Craigslist.

I agree that opening it up to bidders outside the U.S. often results in more money and I don't really like to exclude anyone if I don't have to, but I'd just rather have less money and be able to keep it.   :-\

Changing gears to respond to the quote above, we have a thing called Kijiji.ca up here and I don't know if it exists in the U.S.  It's really pretty much exactly the same as  Craigslist and I've had spectacular luck with it last December.  I decided to move out a bunch of stuff, notably Hasbro ships and I sold all of my ships, about 25 of them, except for two A-wings, a Tie Interceptor and the OTC Tie vs. X-wing set.  I picked ships in particular because the shipping on larger items out of Canada is absolutely horrendous.  I sold a Gunship on Ebay for $100 and charged $20 shipping but actually paid $44.  No way any buyer was paying that amount in shipping even though it's the completely accurate cost. So selling ships was making me take a loss on shipping on top of eBay and PayPal fees.  Ugh. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on January 21, 2014, 04:59 PM
I was surprised to find that having true (high) shipping costs hasn't overly hindered my international auctions as much as I had thought. 

Like I mentioned, I cleaned out my entire 12" collection including Taun Tauns and Speeder Bikes.  All of them ended up shipping international where shipping was $55 or higher per item.  I think it ended up driving bidders to buy lots of stuff and combine shipping. 

I had a guy from Germany buy $500 worth of stuff as a result and pay $175 in shipping.

Not sure if shipping from Canada to international locations is similar or worse than US rates though.
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Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2014, 06:47 PM
never heard of that here before, but I'll second Craigslist as an alternative.  I sold the old liner to my gf's pool...  It was torn from getting it out of the pool as I dismantled everything, and I still sold it for like $30 I think.  Tons of things sell there that I can't imagine selling on Ebay.

Plus, tales of the shemales.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: EdSolo on January 22, 2014, 07:11 AM
I was surprised to find that having true (high) shipping costs hasn't overly hindered my international auctions as much as I had thought. 

Like I mentioned, I cleaned out my entire 12" collection including Taun Tauns and Speeder Bikes.  All of them ended up shipping international where shipping was $55 or higher per item.  I think it ended up driving bidders to buy lots of stuff and combine shipping. 

I had a guy from Germany buy $500 worth of stuff as a result and pay $175 in shipping.

Not sure if shipping from Canada to international locations is similar or worse than US rates though.

What is the going rate of Hasbro 12" stuff these days?  With all the Sideshow stuff, I was thinking of trying to ditch most of my Hasbro 12" stuff if I could get decent money for it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2014, 09:33 AM
I sold mine for about $10 each, but that was 5 or 6 years ago.
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Post by: Dave on January 22, 2014, 12:10 PM
I had a nearly complete (just missing a few TPM items) boxed Hasbro 12" collection that I sold off individually.  I probably got $0.75 on the dollar for what I paid for it. 

A handful of items are selling at a decent premium.  Half sold for about retail, and about 1/3 sold for steeper discounts of $9 for a $20 figure. 

As I mentioned previously, probably 1/2 of my collection sold to international bidders with nearly all of the big ticket items going internationally.

I did sell my stuff in the November/December time frame so I might have gotten a little boost from Christmas shopping.

It was amazing how much room I created by clearing out my 12" collection.  All those boxed items took up a ton of space.  Probably eight very large moving boxes worth of stuff.

It was a lot of work though.  Finding all the items in my collection, taking photos, finding comparative pricing on eBay, listing them on eBay, re-listing them on eBay, shipping, and dealing with all the auctions was a lot of work, but I ended up getting $2000.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on January 25, 2014, 12:28 AM
No longer mad at you Rob.   ;)

Buyer contacted me today to say the shipment arrived.  Postal system even apologized to the buyer saying the box had been there a while but got shuffled off to the side and forgotten about.  So it was a Mexican system screw up, though I can see that happening anywhere.  Doesn't do a lot to alleviate the feelings I have about shipping where tracking is expensive so I don't see me changing my stance on the shipping policy going forward.

But the buyer is sending me the money again. 

I was quite angry when it happened and in my response to him/eBay, my early draft showed that anger.  Thankfully I didn't send it, revised it to be disappointed but polite and asked that should it show up I would appreciate it if he would contact me and pay me and lo and behold, he did.  Honey good, vinegar bad. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 25, 2014, 02:17 AM
Good move.  eBay isn't necessarily going to side with you, but they're very likely to side against you if you get all pissy in the email and response history.

Glad to hear it worked out and that the guy was honest about paying you back.  He could have easily gotten away with keeping the money.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on February 14, 2014, 12:56 PM
So, I have recently had pretty good luck contacting Ebay sellers who were unable to sell their items.  If I've seen something I want re-listed or noticed no bids by the auction end, I'll sometimes shoot over an email offering to buy direct.  This saves the seller time re-listing, avoids Ebay and Paypal Fees, and guarantees an immediate sale.  On my end, I typically get it for a little less and don't have the hassle of potentially being outbid at the last minute.  Win-win scenario in my mind.

Recently, I saw a fairly common vintage carded figure go unsold at $29.99 + $4.50 shipping.  So, I contacted the seller to see if we could work something out. His offer?  "Sure, I would be willing to sell it to you for $50 direct."  Ummmm...what?  How about I pay $15 more than what it didn't sell for initially?  WTF is wrong with people? 
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Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 14, 2014, 01:07 PM
That's hilarious in a super obnoxious way! I thought you were going to say he sold it to you for $15.
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Post by: JediJman on February 14, 2014, 03:52 PM
That's hilarious in a super obnoxious way! I thought you were going to say he sold it to you for $15.

Ha!  I would have been happy to buy it for $30...not sure I want it at all now. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on February 15, 2014, 11:49 AM
The last few times I've tried to offer people slightly lower prices for things that don't sell, I've been ignored and then found the items resisted for the same price.  Seems to be a side-effect of there being no listing fees (mostly) at this point.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on February 15, 2014, 03:41 PM
I usually just ignore offers sent via messages, but if I'm in a good mood I'll respond to the person, politely decline, thank them for looking, etc. I tend to find offers to be annoying, mostly because if I wanted offers on my items I would add the "best offer" feature (also free now, BTW). I run sales and sometimes lower prices (then still have sales) on most of my items, but some things I am okay with sitting on for awhile to get the price I am looking for.

Jman, regarding your seller, it seems like he was being a dick. Responding to your inquiry/offer with a higher price than his listing seems straight up snarky and kinda rude.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on February 15, 2014, 09:53 PM
Thanks Greg.  My take on offers is that its ideally helping out both seller and buyer.  If you intend to sell an item for $100, you're going to have to pay eBay and paypal fees of at least $5-6.  And after being up a whole week, you have no bids, so chances of selling at that price are greatly reduced.  Then someone comes along promising to buy direct for $90.  The buyer clearly saves $10 vs. the initial price,  but the seller is only getting $4 less than he intended with no fees and no Ebay siding with seller complaints. I typically get buyers to see the light, but amazes me how many people don't get it.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on February 15, 2014, 10:19 PM
Thanks Greg.  My take on offers is that its ideally helping out both seller and buyer.  If you intend to sell an item for $100, you're going to have to pay eBay and paypal fees of at least $5-6.  And after being up a whole week, you have no bids, so chances of selling at that price are greatly reduced.  Then someone comes along promising to buy direct for $90.  The buyer clearly saves $10 vs. the initial price,  but the seller is only getting $4 less than he intended with no fees and no Ebay siding with seller complaints. I typically get buyers to see the light, but amazes me how many people don't get it.

Ah, I see where you're coming from. Honestly I skimmed your earlier post (:-[) so I missed that buying direct part. You're 100% right though, making the deal outside of eBay does save fees and should reduce the price. I actually don't think I have gotten any offers for making a deal outside eBay, just offers to lower my price on eBay.

Personally I don't think I would do any off-eBay deals, since I don't know if eBay checks messages and regulates stuff like that (I know they have an annoying disclaimer on all messages). I've been working on getting a small toy business right now, so I wouldn't want to screw things up by getting my eBay account banned or something. I play things overly cautious though, that's just who I am.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on February 15, 2014, 11:12 PM
Yes, they frown upon outside deals for obvious reasons ($) but I'm not sure how aggressive they are in pursuing violations, scanning emails and so forth. Nothing would surprise me though.

I'm pretty much the same as Greg, typically I am not interested in doing side-deals as I put I lot of time and thought into my pricing up front and don't have a lot of wiggle room with my margins. Most of the offers I seem to get are pretty far below whatever savings I would recoup in fees too. But I have done it on occasion  and am certainly not averse to people asking.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2014, 12:46 AM
Actually you can get turned in by people you make offers to if you piss them off enough over it.  I've noticed the requests from them to turn people in for contacting you about selling off-site, so it's a reason I tend not to do it.

I don't care for Ebay but it's a necessary evil to me at times.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on March 5, 2014, 10:45 AM
Can we change the title of this thread to Everything eBay is a Scam?  I received an invoice from them for 9 auctions I held in January.  My amount due?  $82!!!  Are you kidding me?  Since when do they take 10% off both the final value and the shipping charge?  That means an auction ending for $85 + $15 shipping costs me $10 in Ebay fees plus $5 in paypal fees.  I would be better off marking the price down to $70(!) and selling local.  Incredible.  Great place to buy, ridiculous place to sell.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 5, 2014, 11:27 AM
Since when do they take 10% off both the final value and the shipping charge? 

Since March/April 2011.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on March 5, 2014, 12:28 PM
Yeah, its pretty sad when you have to mark up shipping just to break even. 

Don't forget your PayPal fees as well.

I'm with you Justin.  If I can strike a deal off-line with people I do it every time, especially if I'm the seller.  It saves you a TON in fees.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on March 5, 2014, 09:54 PM
Thing with that is when I see marke up shipping I don't buy.  Even a pretty decent deal I walk away.  I'm sure I'm not alone there.   :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: P-Siddy on March 6, 2014, 08:34 AM
Yeah, I pay attention to shipping costs, too... and not just on ebay.  I used to work at a place where I shipped goods and I couldn't believe how much they were making on shipping... $3-6 on every order.  Not a lot but it adds up in the long run.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 6, 2014, 08:38 AM
For the most part I won't "pay" for shipping on ebay. So if I would bid $x then I actually bid $x - shipping cost. Unless I really want it. So shipping cost stops me from bidding on a lot of things.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on March 6, 2014, 09:18 AM
EBay and Paypal double-dipping on fees is very annoying, especially on shipping. With the top-rated discount I'm paying around 10% total in fees for my sales... I imagine fees could get to 15% or more for casual sellers who don't get discounts. I actually switched over to free shipping for all of my lastings last year. I figured there was no sense in leaving myself open to lower feedback ratings on shipping price if I was going to get hit with eBay fees either way. Ultimately I think that move boosted my sales, so I guess it was a win-win for me.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on March 6, 2014, 10:25 AM
Yeah, its pretty sad when you have to mark up shipping just to break even. 

Don't forget your PayPal fees as well.

I'm with you Justin.  If I can strike a deal off-line with people I do it every time, especially if I'm the seller.  It saves you a TON in fees.

See, I'm almost with eBay on this... you're not 'breaking even' by marking up the costs.  You're just making more. 

When you sell something, you do so knowing full well that the cost of using their platform where you have access to millions of potential buyers is that you pay their fees.  That's just the cost of eBay.  If you don't like that, you're free to use Craig's List or have a garage sale.

I think eBay does a lot of dumb ****, and obviously they're pushing the percentage that they charge and at some point they'll need to increase profits on volume instead of fee percentage.  The charging a fee on shipping is because people were charging $2.00 for an expensive item then asking $30 to ship to avoid fees.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on March 6, 2014, 02:14 PM
EBay and Paypal double-dipping on fees is very annoying, especially on shipping. With the top-rated discount I'm paying around 10% total in fees for my sales... I imagine fees could get to 15% or more for casual sellers who don't get discounts. I actually switched over to free shipping for all of my lastings last year. I figured there was no sense in leaving myself open to lower feedback ratings on shipping price if I was going to get hit with eBay fees either way. Ultimately I think that move boosted my sales, so I guess it was a win-win for me.

I ended up doing the exact same thing...plus I was sick of people sticking it to me on combined shipping if they won multiple auctions. I never advertised that but people apparently expect it and at the rate they decide is fair, so it became tiresome quickly arguing with people over that crap.

The fees definitely suck but they way I look at it, I'm making way more off this stuff selling it there than anyplace else I could go, especially places like the local comic shop.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on March 6, 2014, 03:01 PM
Auction houses typically charge anywhere from 10% to 25%

Seriously, I know eBay isn't Christie's, but it's not that terrible.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on March 6, 2014, 07:08 PM
For the most part I won't "pay" for shipping on ebay. So if I would bid $x then I actually bid $x - shipping cost. Unless I really want it. So shipping cost stops me from bidding on a lot of things.

This is what I do...  I gauge what the shipping added on is, and if it puts it out of my reach of what I wanted to pay in the first place, I walk.  I do this even with online retailers like Amazon or EE as well.  If their shipping jacks it or I can't get free, I bail on the purchase...  It's all consumer perceptions really, but it's enough to make me walk on many auctions on Ebay.  You see something BIN for $10 you really wanted then the guy wants $12 shipping and you know you're getting it in the cheapest shipping method possible?  It's a turn-off to the seller, but that's me.

I never sell stuff on Ebay...  Looks like too much hassle.  I buy, but even that I do less of than I used to.

The other day I was buying a model kit from Asia...  Only way to get these kits, and they're awesome, but incredibly expensive.  I went through a 100 listings easily before I settled on the cheapest one between shipping ($3?  Asia?  Wow.) + BIN price...  I got it for less than $40 where these go for well more than that usually.

Likewise my RC tanks, I get many from Asia and they're huge.  I have to see a shipping I can live with or it jacks the BIN so high...  A friend of mine who sells and is in HK tells me how shipping isn't bad at all if you do it right, but many sellers overcharge because US customers assume it costs a ton to get something from them.  It's all in the packaging and the shipping method, and of course tracking it so it gets from A to B for sure.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 7, 2014, 03:16 PM
Really a USPS question, but I did buy off ebay. Anyone ever have a package marked as "delivered" in tracking but not get it? Anything I can do about it?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 7, 2014, 03:22 PM
You might want to check with your neighbors for the package.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 7, 2014, 03:36 PM
You might want to check with your neighbors for the package.

I will. I kind of assumed they'd have thrown it at my front door if that were the case.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2014, 04:24 PM
If its marked delivered the USPS employee has scanned the DC barcode n left it somewhere...  Check anywhere they might've left it besides the front porch...  It could've been stolen...  If you can't find it call into your office for the post master and they can at least ask the carrier who scanned it where he put it.  :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on March 7, 2014, 05:44 PM
Really a USPS question, but I did buy off ebay. Anyone ever have a package marked as "delivered" in tracking but not get it? Anything I can do about it?

I have and the post office and ebay both said, sucks for you, it says delivered. On the bright side, the package showed up a month later.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: R5Don4 on March 7, 2014, 05:54 PM
Yeah if it gets delivered to the wrong address it will still show as delivered.  What you need to do is request a POD (proof of Delivery), if a signature was required, and it wasn't you that signed for it, you can say so.  Otherwise,  it goes back to the driver's word on what happened.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on March 7, 2014, 06:30 PM
Auction houses typically charge anywhere from 10% to 25%

Seriously, I know eBay isn't Christie's, but it's not that terrible.

I guess I just don't sell as much on Ebay these days.  I remember when it was a few cents to list, then relatively low percentage basis on the final sale.  I would be okay with the final value fee on shipping if I wasn't already paying fees for Paypal.  If you're only going to get $70 for an $85 item, and then have to collect payment, communicate with sellers, pack & mail it...just not worth it now with these crazy fees IMO. 

Sure, an auction house charges more, but they're dealing with an incredibly small amount of volume versus a company like Ebay.  They can't spread their fixed costs as easily, and have to pay staff to accept, inspect, handle, price, sell, and ship the items.  Ebay has advertising and service center costs, but that's an infinitely small admin cost versus what they're taking in. 

Anyway, to each their own.  If they're going to charge that much per item, then IMO either the seller or the buyer is getting screwed with every transaction.  I'll buy from them if the price is right, but there's little chance I'll resort to selling there again anytime in the near future.  I'll stick to craigslist or forums and either net more per item or at least pass the savings on to buyers instead of Ebay. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 7, 2014, 07:56 PM
Really a USPS question, but I did buy off ebay. Anyone ever have a package marked as "delivered" in tracking but not get it? Anything I can do about it?

I have and the post office and ebay both said, sucks for you, it says delivered. On the bright side, the package showed up a month later.

This is what I expect to happen. The sucks for you part that is. Tracking thing sort of sucks then. I had called the post office and they said they would talk to the mail man and see if he remembered but that he didn't have a phone to call so it would be when he got back. So I saw a mail man coming today but it wasn't the normal guy and he said he didn't deliver to my neighborhood yesterday so I am going to call again and see if the first person I talked to has talked to the guy from Thursday. Not sure what I just typed. Anyway I don't have high hopes, but we will see. At least it was only a grand total of $13 and not Star Wars.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: evenflow on March 8, 2014, 02:35 PM
I spoke to the mail man, the post office, the main office. It was pretty much just a waste of time. Hit up your neighbor and if not just wait it out. Sorry  :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 8, 2014, 09:16 PM
Lady at the post office says the carrier on that day said "he did not leave a package at my house, but remembers leaving one at a similar address number possibly with the numbers jumbled". So "it probably will show up". It didn't today. So I will let next week go by and if it doesn't I will probably call again and ask if they can do anything. Doubt they will even with him saying he didn't leave it for me. Not sure it should take more than a couple days if the wrong person put it back out for the mail man to grab, but I am impatient sometimes so hopefully it will come.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on March 9, 2014, 02:57 PM
I guess I just don't sell as much on Ebay these days.  I remember when it was a few cents to list, then relatively low percentage basis on the final sale.

Now its free to list your items!  Unfortunately now they hit you when the sale completes.

I agree that ebay has become a lot harder for the casual seller.  I used to feel okay about buying cases of figures to get what I wanted and then ebay the rest.  These days its no where near the trouble to do that because of all the fees, the hassle, etc.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 9, 2014, 11:25 PM
Package at the door when I came home today. All's well that ends well.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on March 10, 2014, 12:20 AM
Like.
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Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2014, 08:10 PM
Glad that worked out...  GENERALLY people are honest I think, and they return a box that isn't theirs...  It's so easy to transpose numbers but it's slightly less excusable on packages since, and that's even more so true right now since deliveries are slow for the USPS after Valentine's, but crap happens.

I had my carrier trying to get me to get my brother's wife, who lives out the road from me with her mother right now, to return a package she delivered to them on accident...  Apparently calling her wasn't getting her to return it to the local PO or even leave it out for her to pick up.

I guess that means it's somehow up to me to track down my brother's soon-to-be-ex for her to get the package back to deliver it to the right person.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on March 11, 2014, 01:00 AM
Isn't opening someone's mail a federal offense?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2014, 01:40 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 11, 2014, 01:43 AM
Isn't opening someone's mail a federal offense?

Big time!

Is It Illegal to Open Someone Else's Mail? (http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/01/is-it-illegal-to-open-someone-elses-mail.html) 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on May 15, 2014, 11:16 AM
Anyone else get an email about the new changes going into effect today for sellers?

Upshot for me is no more free BIN listings for toys. That SUCKS, 90% of my sales are through BIN auctions. eBay was pushing these types of auctions for awhile and now they're pushing for auction style listings. I don't see why they can't stop jerking sellers around. Without us, they have no business.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on May 15, 2014, 11:38 AM
No BIN for toys?!  Forget selling, that's often how I SHOP.  You can find really great deals by searching new BIN listings.

**** eBay.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 15, 2014, 11:49 AM
I think what he's saying is there is a fee on any toy you list BIN style. Not no BIN for toys.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on May 15, 2014, 12:25 PM
Ooops... yeah, I missed the word free in his post.  Well, that's not to terrible.  It's a fee, but that's how it used to be...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on May 15, 2014, 02:12 PM
I read through the details last week when I got the email and found it confusing.

I think we actually get a handful of free BIN listings per month in select categories that include toys (50?).  Other categories seem to have less restrictive free BIN listings. 

There are also a number of free auction style listings provided (150?), but I don't think this was restricted by category.

Although this might all depend on your sales volumes, or ratings or something.

The way I basically read these changes and other changes they've made over the past several years is that they're focusing their offering around "eBay marketplace" vendors, where you need to have a certain sales volume or pay a monthly/yearly fee.  Basically the days of random people like us selling stuff on eBay being a big part of their business have gone.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on May 16, 2014, 07:42 AM
So Ebay may or may not charge miscellaneous fees for random aspects of your listing on top of high percentages, a. Share of your shipping ask, and double taxation via forced Paypal payments.  That sounds about right for them.  Can't wait to sell a $20 figure and get $3.75 back after Ebay jerking around.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on May 16, 2014, 08:49 AM
I read through the details last week when I got the email and found it confusing.

I think we actually get a handful of free BIN listings per month in select categories that include toys (50?).  Other categories seem to have less restrictive free BIN listings. 

There are also a number of free auction style listings provided (150?), but I don't think this was restricted by category.

Although this might all depend on your sales volumes, or ratings or something.

The way I basically read these changes and other changes they've made over the past several years is that they're focusing their offering around "eBay marketplace" vendors, where you need to have a certain sales volume or pay a monthly/yearly fee.  Basically the days of random people like us selling stuff on eBay being a big part of their business have gone.

Yeah, I think you're right about them squeezing out the little guys. I guess I can keep my free BIN listings for toys if I open up an eBay store (cha-ching) - no thanks.

And yeah, I still get plenty of free auction style listings, but that's not going to do much to improve my sales. The kind of stuff I sell is not usually the kind of stuff people would start bidding wars over.

I'm considering just listing the stuff under a different category and see what happens. I rarely search by category anyway, personally.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on May 16, 2014, 08:51 AM
Sounds like maybe it'll prevent idiot sellers from incessantly relisting toys with ridiculous BINs.  Can't complain about that!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 16, 2014, 09:26 AM
Sounds like maybe it'll prevent idiot sellers from incessantly relisting toys with ridiculous BINs.  Can't complain about that!

That is a good point. One of my biggest pet peeves about ebay is the sellers who spend no research time on what their stuff is worth (same item selling for).
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 16, 2014, 10:48 AM
What I can't stand about ebay is how all of the star wars stuff is double to triple what it is actually worth. It's hard to find a good deal with all of the huge prices.

However video games for the DS/3DS and original xbox and 360 games are a steal. I've been watching an auction where they will give you a random set of fifty xbox360/ps2 games for $40.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on May 16, 2014, 10:53 AM
I agree that is annoying, but I think that's more bigger sellers who are probably going to be exempt from these rules. The people that actually spend the time and effort to list reasonably prices stuff are the ones who are getting pinched.

And honestly, the ridiculous BIN auctions are not as annoying to me as the people who write to me asking me to sell stuff below my asking price when it is not a Best Offer auction. Don't waste my time.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on May 16, 2014, 02:27 PM
And honestly, the ridiculous BIN auctions are not as annoying to me as the people who write to me asking me to sell stuff below my asking price when it is not a Best Offer auction. Don't waste my time.

Really?  Not to poke fun, but I would love to have the annoyance of people offering me money on a regular basis!  Isn't this is a win-win scenario?  If your item is not selling for the price listed, you have someone making an alternative offer that might still be agreeable to you...especially if you're able to subtract out the added Ebay and Paypal fees you endure from a completed auction.  Heck, in some cases you might take home more than a completed auction sale.  I would love to get offers like that on my Ebay sales, provided their not all outrageous low-ball offers and even then it just takes a few seconds to read and delete. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on May 16, 2014, 02:47 PM
And honestly, the ridiculous BIN auctions are not as annoying to me as the people who write to me asking me to sell stuff below my asking price when it is not a Best Offer auction. Don't waste my time.

Really?  Not to poke fun, but I would love to have the annoyance of people offering me money on a regular basis!  Isn't this is a win-win scenario?  If your item is not selling for the price listed, you have someone making an alternative offer that might still be agreeable to you...especially if you're able to subtract out the added Ebay and Paypal fees you endure from a completed auction.  Heck, in some cases you might take home more than a completed auction sale.  I would love to get offers like that on my Ebay sales, provided their not all outrageous low-ball offers and even then it just takes a few seconds to read and delete.

Agreed.  Probably half of my auctions are completed outside of eBay because I get an acceptable offer and it allows me to avoid the ridiculous eBay fees and only pay the PayPal fees.

I just ignore or politely refuse any unreasonably low offers.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on May 16, 2014, 03:01 PM
Hmm, no these are not folks who are offering to buy stuff outside of eBay, (that is a big No-No in their eyes anyway) they're just people who basically just want me to drop the price on an item I already have listed. So all the eBay and Paypal fees would still come into play, unfortunately.

And these are not auctions that are overpriced to begin with, honestly. I always price stuff to sell. But I also know my margins and the lowest I can afford to go. I have no problem listing stuff for weeks over weeks, I don't expect stuff to sell right away. But I've never had anything linger more than a few months either.

And yeah, I am very appreciative of any interest in my listings. I just find the occasional lowballing more of an annoyance personally than the sellers who have outrageous BINs. Those I can easily ignore.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 16, 2014, 04:15 PM
UGH - so I picked up the Jek-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter on an eBay auction that claimed the set was New/Unused/Unopened.

Well - it arrived today and imagine my shock to find the two clear tape circular seals that hold the top of the box onto the bottom were both cut.

Opened up the box to find the mini-figure fully assembled INSIDE the bag and then found that the bag was one of those resealable type bags.

Does anyone else have this set? Is that how the bag was? Did the mini-figure come pre-assembled - most Lego sets have the head, torso, legs, hair/helmet all as separate pieces.

Not to mention the fact that Jek-14's hair-piece is missing. I'm not OVERLY concerned about that since I can always request another one from Lego Customer Service to replace it.

My complaint is that it truly wasn't a new/unopened set with those tape seals cut.

Am I being unreasonable?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: DSJ™ on May 21, 2014, 11:14 AM
All over the morning news!

eBay hacked, requests all users change passwords (http://www.cnet.com/news/ebay-hacked-requests-all-users-change-passwords/)

EBAY INC. TO ASK EBAY USERS TO CHANGE PASSWORDS (https://blog.ebay.com/ebay-inc-ask-ebay-users-change-passwords/)

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Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: P-Siddy on May 21, 2014, 11:15 AM
I just did so and was going to post this.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on May 21, 2014, 02:02 PM
Crap, I've had the same password for over 15 years. Gonna miss that.
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Post by: Master_Phruby on May 21, 2014, 06:17 PM
Took them three months to admit it.
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Post by: Jesse James on May 29, 2014, 05:42 PM
Opened my first claim against a seller today...  Very cordial and cool about refunding me a little money.

I'd bought something that said it was unopened, but it was clearly opened at some point.  Since it is something relatively fragile I was reluctant then to just accept it as-is, and asked for just the shipping returned to me which the seller happily did for me.  Very cool and appreciated.

It wasn't much $ being talked about, just $5-ish, but it made the difference to me, and I walked away quite happy and impressed at how nice the seller was about it all.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BrentS on May 29, 2014, 09:37 PM
Strange eBay issue for me today. I sold some stuff last week and shipped it all out using the paypal linked eBay shipping option. Usually works great and does all the tracking communication for me. The strange part, this package was clearly intended to ship to Arizona. It's spent the last 24 hours rolling through Boston and New Hamphsire (note, I shipped from Illinios). Why is this package in the North East???  All the rest of my packages (including another one to Arizona) arrived today.  Strange. Sure hope it arrives.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on May 29, 2014, 09:56 PM
Could've been a slip up in distribution that SHOULD work itself out...  Distribution center traffic can route stuff weird ways though.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 29, 2014, 11:42 PM
I have had both something I bought and something I sold go to the west coast first when it should have gone north to south and vice versa and other than the extra time it took, everything went fine. Though the buyer only gave me 4 stars for shipping time. Whatever.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Diddly on May 30, 2014, 04:17 AM
I got the email too and went to see if I left any credit card/paypal info in my account since I've literally only used eBay once, and that was ten years ago to buy some VOTC figures. Will probably stay that way too.

UGH - so I picked up the Jek-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter on an eBay auction that claimed the set was New/Unused/Unopened.

Well - it arrived today and imagine my shock to find the two clear tape circular seals that hold the top of the box onto the bottom were both cut.

Opened up the box to find the mini-figure fully assembled INSIDE the bag and then found that the bag was one of those resealable type bags.

Does anyone else have this set? Is that how the bag was? Did the mini-figure come pre-assembled - most Lego sets have the head, torso, legs, hair/helmet all as separate pieces.

Not to mention the fact that Jek-14's hair-piece is missing. I'm not OVERLY concerned about that since I can always request another one from Lego Customer Service to replace it.

My complaint is that it truly wasn't a new/unopened set with those tape seals cut.

Am I being unreasonable?

Little late, but LEGO polybags are never taped or stapled or anything. It's like buying a bag of chips. Would you buy one that was taped shut? Definitely get your money back Pete.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2014, 12:55 PM
So just to update on my Jek-14 Mini Starfighter issue.

Never got a response back from the seller. The one piece that was missing was identical to the Jek figure hair-piece that came with the mass retail bigger Jek-14 Fighter - so I went to Lego's customer service site and asked for one - and I was sent it.

So now that set is "complete" - I have not been able to confirm whether or not there were any "spare" parts - there probably were but I can't seem to find on any of the Lego collector sites what they were exactly - but at least I now have all the parts the instruction book indicates should be there.

So after waiting the period of time that eBay asked me to wait, I let them know that I hadn't heard back from the seller - so without reading my comments they e-mailed me a shipping return label and said I'll get a full refund when they are alerted, via shipping tracking, that the item was returned to the seller.

That wasn't the outcome I wanted - and no matter how many times I explained that to the eBay customer support e-mail address, they just didn't seem to get it.

So I looked at the current going rate for the set and it's $109+

I got it for $79.99 + $5 shipping

If I send it back - this horrible seller was just going re-list it as "new" and "unopened" and in order for me to get the set, I would have to pay even more money.

So in the end, I just kept it - I was going to open it and build it anyway.

The lousy part is that I want to leave negative feedback for the seller, but I'm worried that the seller is just gonna leave a negative feedback on me in retaliation.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on May 30, 2014, 01:47 PM
The lousy part is that I want to leave negative feedback for the seller, but I'm worried that the seller is just gonna leave a negative feedback on me in retaliation.

Sellers can't leave negative or neutral feedbacks anymore, so no need to worry about retaliation. The worst the seller could do is leave a positive feedback with a negative written comment, but that is something eBay will remove.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on May 30, 2014, 02:12 PM
Pete,

I basically did the same thing...  If you were happy with it, keep it and demand a partial refund.  You'd have won, and been in the right to have done so.

The guy I was dealing with sent me an item that was opened and resealed, and was listed as unopened.  I contacted him when I opened the claim, which gave me the option to ask that I keep the item but ask for a partial refund.  That's what I did, and he was more than happy to kick back my shipping.  I think he'd have asked for more, but the shipping satisfied me.

In your case it sounds even a little more shady than mine (I think my guy it was an honest mistake), and you deserve some money back, especially since yours was opened AND is missing a part.  Mine was complete, and I was going to open it anyway, so I didn't want to be a jag about it was all.  I wanted something off though because we'd been in a Best Offer negotiation over it and my first offer was declined...  Knowing what I know now, I would've wanted it for the lower price though.

He may not like it, or even respond to you, but either way Ebay's probably going to side with you on it.  Take some pics of it for evidence.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2014, 02:44 PM
Sellers can't leave negative or neutral feedbacks anymore, so no need to worry about retaliation. The worst the seller could do is leave a positive feedback with a negative written comment, but that is something eBay will remove.

Wow - they can't? Nice!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2014, 02:56 PM
The guy I was dealing with sent me an item that was opened and resealed, and was listed as unopened.  I contacted him when I opened the claim, which gave me the option to ask that I keep the item but ask for a partial refund.  That's what I did, and he was more than happy to kick back my shipping.  I think he'd have asked for more, but the shipping satisfied me.

In your case it sounds even a little more shady than mine (I think my guy it was an honest mistake), and you deserve some money back, especially since yours was opened AND is missing a part.  Mine was complete, and I was going to open it anyway, so I didn't want to be a jag about it was all.  I wanted something off though because we'd been in a Best Offer negotiation over it and my first offer was declined...  Knowing what I know now, I would've wanted it for the lower price though.

He may not like it, or even respond to you, but either way Ebay's probably going to side with you on it.  Take some pics of it for evidence.

eBay did side with me - sorry if my post wasn't clear on that point - the only problem was that all they were willing to do was send me a shipping label to send it back to the seller for a full refund.

I even selected the option to chose to keep item/partial refund but they (eBay) ignored it.

If the seller coped to the fact that it was already opened and built and all they did was disassemble it and sell it and were willing to kick back some $$$ - like 25% off or something, I would have been happy with that AND given the seller good feedback.

I did get a eBay customer support survey to fill out - not that I think it will help much - but I plan on giving eBay a less than favorable response on that this weekend.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Morgbug on May 30, 2014, 05:39 PM
Sellers can't leave negative or neutral feedbacks anymore, so no need to worry about retaliation. The worst the seller could do is leave a positive feedback with a negative written comment, but that is something eBay will remove.

Wow - they can't? Nice!

Nah, not really. 

While I appreciate your perspective given your situation, only having one side able to honestly comment on the situation is hardly the best.  I've dealt with dickish buyers enough that I'd love to neg them and they would have deserved it.  But there's no option for an irresponsible buyer.  Three weeks to pay then leave comments to the extent that shipping was slow?  Seriously? 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2014, 05:52 PM
Nah, not really. 

While I appreciate your perspective given your situation, only having one side able to honestly comment on the situation is hardly the best.  I've dealt with dickish buyers enough that I'd love to neg them and they would have deserved it.  But there's no option for an irresponsible buyer.  Three weeks to pay then leave comments to the extent that shipping was slow?  Seriously?

I 100% agree with you - I am a firm believer in if you win an auction, you pay immediately - I always do. I bid and paid on this item in question within minutes - normally for me I take advantage of Buy-it-Now and do it at the same time. In this case, I had to wait for the auction to end since there was no BiN.

Also as a buyer - I rarely care about shipping speed - if I get a tracking number and can watch it's progress - that's good enough for me - if it still hasn't been shipped 2-3 weeks after I've paid - that's when I get concerned and probably from that seller's perspective - a bit dickish.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on May 30, 2014, 06:26 PM
The guy I was dealing with sent me an item that was opened and resealed, and was listed as unopened.  I contacted him when I opened the claim, which gave me the option to ask that I keep the item but ask for a partial refund.  That's what I did, and he was more than happy to kick back my shipping.  I think he'd have asked for more, but the shipping satisfied me.

In your case it sounds even a little more shady than mine (I think my guy it was an honest mistake), and you deserve some money back, especially since yours was opened AND is missing a part.  Mine was complete, and I was going to open it anyway, so I didn't want to be a jag about it was all.  I wanted something off though because we'd been in a Best Offer negotiation over it and my first offer was declined...  Knowing what I know now, I would've wanted it for the lower price though.

He may not like it, or even respond to you, but either way Ebay's probably going to side with you on it.  Take some pics of it for evidence.

eBay did side with me - sorry if my post wasn't clear on that point - the only problem was that all they were willing to do was send me a shipping label to send it back to the seller for a full refund.

I even selected the option to chose to keep item/partial refund but they (eBay) ignored it.

If the seller coped to the fact that it was already opened and built and all they did was disassemble it and sell it and were willing to kick back some $$$ - like 25% off or something, I would have been happy with that AND given the seller good feedback.

I did get a eBay customer support survey to fill out - not that I think it will help much - but I plan on giving eBay a less than favorable response on that this weekend.

To each their own, but this feels like a lot of fuss for no reason...or worse, a case of entitlement.  This is another reason why I avoid Ebay selling like the plague these days.  The seller was absolutely wrong in his description of the item and if your intent was to keep it sealed then I would back your actions 100%.  However, your intent was to open the item anyway.  You had added hassle in getting the hair piece, but got it for free and you clearly didn't feel it was worth getting the full refund to go buy from someone else. The desire to get an additional discount based on someone's mistaken description when you essentially got what you wanted doesn't sit well with me.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2014, 07:02 PM
To each their own, but this feels like a lot of fuss for no reason...or worse, a case of entitlement.  This is another reason why I avoid Ebay selling like the plague these days.  The seller was absolutely wrong in his description of the item and if your intent was to keep it sealed then I would back your actions 100%.  However, your intent was to open the item anyway.  You had added hassle in getting the hair piece, but got it for free and you clearly didn't feel it was worth getting the full refund to go buy from someone else. The desire to get an additional discount based on someone's mistaken description when you essentially got what you wanted doesn't sit well with me.

Shouldn't matter what I wanted to do with it OR that I got the replacement part for free. And yeah - if I bid on an item that is advertised as mint/unopened and it doesn't come that way - then I'm entitled for it to arrive that way. I could have decided to keep it MIB after I received it and then buy it brick-for-brick on Brick Owl instead - that option wasn't available to me, the seller saw to that.

Seller could have just as easily gone on their own, inventoried the set, gotten the missing pieces (like I mentioned earlier, I'm still not sure I have all the parts since Lego ALWAYS puts extras of the little pieces) and then sold it as "Previously Used" - and then guess what? I wouldn't have bid on it - and since I was the only one who did, I'm doubting anyone else would have either. The seller would have eventually had to settle on either keeping the set or selling it for a much lower amount. Plain and simple, that's not a sense of entitlement or looking to get an additional discount, it's how the after-market on Legos works on eBay - mint/unopened sets command a premium, opened/used sets get at most the original MSRP. All it took was for me to look through the last couple weeks of completed Lego auctions to see that.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on May 31, 2014, 06:54 PM
Exactly what I was talking about.  People have this mentality that they're owed something anytime someone makes a mistake.  Like I said, if your intent was to keep it sealed, then I'm right there with you.  But you bought it to open.  You could have returned it for a full refund if you wanted it sealed, but you were seeking money back despite getting the item for less than the current sealed price.  I don't sell on Ebay because of stuff like this.  Heaven forbid you forget to point out a flaw or describe something incorrectly because the buyer will come after you for any and all mistakes even if they got exactly what they wanted. Yes, you're clearly within your rights to complain, but that doesn't mean its the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 1, 2014, 01:31 AM
If I bid on an item described as mint in sealed box, or unopened box, then that is I should get.  I don't know how the item was described in the original but the seller in this case is clearly in the wrong and should have made amends.

I try to buy stuff unopened so I'm sure that the item I'm receiving is complete...I'm assuming that is what Pete was trying to do as well.  It sucks that he was lied to (either intentionally or unintentionally by the seller.  It doesn't matter what Pete intended to do with the item he bid on and won...the seller should've done what he could to make things right for his error.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 1, 2014, 05:15 AM
Pete had the opportunity to return the item for a full refund, right?  How is that not making amends for the mistake?  I'm just pointing out the difference between a lawful decision and an ethical decision.  If you got what you wanted for an acceptable price, then maybe let it go.  Like I said originally, to each their own.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 1, 2014, 09:28 AM
I copied the description out of the auction for you guys to read:

Quote
Exclusive 2013 San Diego Comic Con

LEGO Star Wars

JEK-14 Mini Stealth Starfighter

Limited to 1000

*Brand New Unopened*

One of the hottest LEGO items at 2013 San Diego Comic Con. Get yours today!

This wasn't a mistake - the seller knew what they had and knew that Lego sets that are advertised as used/opened do not command premium mark-up. (I did not add the asterisks they were in the description.)

If the box had come with the tape seals intact, I would have given the seller positive feedback and moved on. If the seals had been cut and the bag inside was a standard issue unopened Lego parts bag and all of the parts were in the bag, I would have still given the seller a positive feedback and moved on. Because it would be plausible that the seller opened the box to make sure everything was inside.

I am sorry you have had bad experiences as a seller Jman - but I am not the kind of buyer that drove you to your frustration with eBay. So let's just move on for the sake of this thread.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 2, 2014, 05:36 AM
If the box had come with the tape seals intact, I would have given the seller positive feedback and moved on. If the seals had been cut and the bag inside was a standard issue unopened Lego parts bag and all of the parts were in the bag, I would have still given the seller a positive feedback and moved on. Because it would be plausible that the seller opened the box to make sure everything was inside.

Would you really?  You decided a 25% refund was called for because of the tape seals?  I collect a lot of stuff - some carded and some loose.  If I wanted this item sealed and it was opened, I'd have asked for a huge discount or sent it back.  I couldn't display it the way I intended, so I would be very dissatisfied.  The seller was totally wrong here from that angle. BUT, if I planned to open it anyway, I would have just let something like this slide.  I might even warn the guy to use better descriptions, but I wouldn't have sought out a discount or taken it any further. 

I have actually been fairly lucky with Ebay throughout my collecting career, but I hear stories like this all the time.  Big companies like Target can weather a dissatisfied customer here or there.  Maybe I'm just over sensitive to smaller sellers since Ebay already dicks them over for 10% of final value and shipping fees on top of paypal fees.  Glad you at least got the item you wanted.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on June 6, 2014, 02:08 PM
First thing is I realize this isn't a big deal at all. Six baseball cards for all of 50 cents.

But I won two lots of three MN Twins baseball cards from a guy last Sunday on ebay. When I try to pay I get a message from ebay saying his paypal account can't accept my payment at this time. I let him know, he says he contacted paypal and they said paypal is down. I have had no problem with paypal the rest of the week including paying other people.

I have let him know I have been trying to pay all week and it still doesn't work. I asked him if his other items he sold same day have been paid for by the buyers. I have asked him what he would like to do about it. He isn't responding. I emailed paypal for suggestions and they were useless.

Is there a way to ask ebay to help without it opening a case? I don't want to open a case for 50 cents worth of cards that the issue is him not getting his money. But it's obnoxious he won't respond and I'd like my cards. They may not be valuable but filled a hole in my collection and I don't buy his story about "paypal is down".

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 6, 2014, 03:16 PM
You could ask to just pay him direct and write him a check?  Then he can actually file non-payment and save $.05 on the transaction.  Seems like he just doesn't care since he's only getting $.50 less fees.  I haven't had any trouble with paypal this week...or like ever.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on June 6, 2014, 03:27 PM
I've been doing PayPal stuff all week with no problems either.

What has more likely happened is that they have frozen his account for some reason and he is unable to send or accept payments. That happened to me a few months back when there was a concern about overseas fraud. (Thankfully I was not victimized and the hold was lifted after a week or two)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 6, 2014, 08:39 PM
I've been doing PayPal stuff all week with no problems either.

What has more likely happened is that they have frozen his account for some reason and he is unable to send or accept payments. That happened to me a few months back when there was a concern about overseas fraud. (Thankfully I was not victimized and the hold was lifted after a week or two)

That doesn't explain why he isn't responding to emails. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on June 7, 2014, 06:28 PM
Sounds like he is a punk.  If you sent him the $0.50 you probably wouldn't even get your cards.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on June 8, 2014, 03:35 PM
Obnoxious ebay week.

Paid $6+ for a loose General Madine figure with autographed cardback by Dermot Crowley. I can't guarantee it was authentic and seller couldn't either, but looked good enough to be worth a try to me.

Just got my money refunded with explanation the seller's "dog ate the figure and cardback". I don't know if I should laugh or cry or what.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on June 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
Gotta laugh at the effort on that excuse.  I'm kinda getting a less sympathetic feeling for Ebays seller rules at the moment.

He'll 3rd graders are laughing at that effort.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 9, 2014, 01:51 PM
Gotta laugh at the effort on that excuse.  I'm kinda getting a less sympathetic feeling for Ebays seller rules at the moment.

He'll 3rd graders are laughing at that effort.

Careful guys - JediJman is gonna come down on you for not believing the "dog ate my homework excuse" - it's exactly because of buyers like you guys who don't believe that dogs can eat homework that he left being an eBay seller.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 9, 2014, 06:48 PM
Careful guys - JediJman is gonna come down on you for not believing the "dog ate my homework excuse" - it's exactly because of buyers like you guys who don't believe that dogs can eat homework that he left being an eBay seller.  ;)

WOW.  Are you really still butt hurt from getting called out over a week ago?  Gotta say, I'm a little freaked out that I've been on your mind all this time. 

So let's just move on for the sake of this thread.

Right.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 10, 2014, 12:59 AM
I know it was posted on anotheR Site, but did anyone see this auction?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kenner-Star-Wars-1977-1984-action-Figure-80-lot-oiginal-vinatge-carded-set-Jedi-/251543742032?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3a912ce650

Asking price is a bit high for my taste  ;D

Would be awesome to be able to pick up a complete set like that. The only way it could be better is if the figures were on their original card backs.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on June 11, 2014, 07:29 AM
That's crazy.  If each figure averted $100, you still wouldn't be at half the asking price.  And for most people, buying a huge lot is less enticing than just buying up the specific figures you want.  Nice collection, but totally unrealistic price.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on August 8, 2014, 11:28 AM
Anyone interested in some life size Star Wars replicas?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Lifesize-Replica-Star-Wars-Figures-Props-Han-Solo-Vader-Boba-Fett-R2-D2-/221276115057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3385159071

You can get all 8 for the price of your house.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 8, 2014, 01:52 PM
What's the retail value on all 8? 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2014, 10:44 PM
$390,000.00?!

Maybe he meant $3,900.00???

Holy hell.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Nathan on November 17, 2014, 12:53 PM
I've hit 10 feedback. Not sure I deserve credit for "Great Buyer. Quick Payment." when the item in question was a Buy It Now, but I'll take what I can get. :P
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Master_Phruby on November 17, 2014, 02:25 PM
I do alot of "Great Buyer. Quick Payment" when posting feedback to buyers. It's not like I can put negative feedback on them as a seller.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on December 3, 2014, 01:11 PM
I've hit 10 feedback. Not sure I deserve credit for "Great Buyer. Quick Payment." when the item in question was a Buy It Now, but I'll take what I can get. :P

Ha!  Take the compliments where you can get them I guess...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 24, 2014, 12:27 PM
I may be looking for something where there isn't anything. I won't say more, but just wonder if anyone else sees any red flags here.

Custom SW Toy on ebay.
I open the bidding and then eventually maxed my bid at $15 more than opening bid.
A couple bidders with ebay history bid at the early stage but go away.
Towards the end a new bidder with zero feedback comes in and bids me up a few times until he outbids me.
I lose the auction to that zero fb bidder.
Same day/next day the same item is back up for auction from original seller.
I'm thinking he made more than one.
So I bid same way again.
Again towards the end a different from the first time bidder with zero feedback high bids to $14 above the starting price and I win the item for my top bid.

Thoughts?.............
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on December 24, 2014, 12:28 PM
You got played.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 24, 2014, 12:31 PM
You got played.

I agree. Any thoughts on feedback etiquette? Too circumstantial to say something/bad feedback? Do I give him no feedback as my recourse? Not that that is a hefty penalty. Contact ebay?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on December 24, 2014, 12:43 PM
It definitely sounds like some shill bidding is taking place. Does the seller have any previous auctions with similar bidding activity?

EDIT: I would definitely recommend contacting eBay. Also have you paid for the item yet?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 24, 2014, 02:16 PM
I did pay. It's been shipped. I decided that against "my principles" I wanted the toy enough to just pay, get it and then decide if I want to do anything after the fact. That may hurt me in the long run, but again I wanted the item.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: BillCable on December 24, 2014, 02:36 PM
I'd leave a neg.  "Shill bidding seller.  Ripped me off!"
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 24, 2014, 03:00 PM
This was the first item he has sold on ebay. 15 feedback as buyer. I wonder if he'd refund me anything if I called him out. Or if I should go to eBay first?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on December 24, 2014, 10:54 PM
I'd leave a neg.  "Shill bidding seller.  Ripped me off!"

Can Ebay penalize you for leaving potentially false feedback? It would suck if Nick leaves a comment like that and somehow ends up having his account banned. I still think contacting ebay is the way to go, only because it would have the least possible backlash.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 26, 2014, 11:55 PM
Received the item today. Glad I own it.

That being said I called eBay. The guy I talked to said it would be passed on to the "violations" department or whatever it was called. I would like my $9.50 back (first auction had a legit bid at $4 over starting price), but even if I don't get money back I want this a-hole banned from eBay. I'll keep ya updated (even if you don't care  ;))
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on December 27, 2014, 07:44 PM
I do.  This was my first instance ever ( albeit as a bystander) of a potential cheating seller in that manner.  I find it curious.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on December 28, 2014, 01:29 PM
I do.  This was my first instance ever ( albeit as a bystander) of a potential cheating seller in that manner.  I find it curious.

Yeah, I do too. As a frequent buyer/seller this is not something I have experienced firsthand over the years (that I know of) so I find it curious as well. I hope it works out!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on December 30, 2014, 08:07 PM
That's pretty shady.  Keep us posted and good luck Nick!
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 3, 2015, 10:06 PM
8 days later and I've heard nothing from ebay.

Has anyone else out there who has had to deal with a dispute/problem/etc. on ebay; a) had to wait this long to hear back? or b) and this is more what I'm wondering, ever had to deal with a situation where the other party didn't know you were questioning something (I've had issues where I had to get ebay involved because I never received my item, but that was always just through messages not a phone call and obviously the seller was aware) where ebay decided against you and then never let you know? In other words I'm wondering if ebay will ONLY contact me if they decide they can prove shill bidding? If they decide against me would they not let me know?

It's frustrating that I'm not sure if they are still investigating or if they are done looking into it and decided for the seller so I just get to wonder for eternity.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on January 4, 2015, 04:51 PM
I would be emailing every few days.  Be the squeaky wheel...
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 4, 2015, 10:59 PM
Last time I had trouble with a buyer I just called eBay.  They do have customer service and it can be pretty helpful.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 4, 2015, 11:34 PM
My contact with ebay was a phone call in this case. The guy just didn't tell me much more than "he would pass it on to "violations" and the seller would be banned if they found evidence of shill bidding".
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on January 5, 2015, 12:27 PM
My contact with ebay was a phone call in this case. The guy just didn't tell me much more than "he would pass it on to "violations" and the seller would be banned if they found evidence of shill bidding".

Yeah, that definitely sounds like a "Sure buddy, we'll be looking into it.  Don't hold your breath."  Too bad.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MistaBinks on January 7, 2015, 07:19 PM
Could you guys give me your opinion on this? Also, some of you might want to jump on this as well.

The Hot Toys Iron Man 3 Igor figure caught my eye. At $500+  at the Sideshow website, I never thought I would own one. I then saw the following listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191475186980

I am not sure if the seller made a mistake. Maybe he meant $100 to be the opening bid? Maybe not. He has 9 more available. Maybe I am missing something? I was initially worried that the seller intended the $100 to be a deposit or something. What do you guys think? Just a really good deal?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 7, 2015, 07:47 PM
Seems too good to be true to me. Seller has no feedback in the last 12 months either. That being said, if it's a scam you should be able to get your money back. Might be worth the risk..........
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MistaBinks on January 7, 2015, 08:40 PM
Seems too good to be true to me. Seller has no feedback in the last 12 months either. That being said, if it's a scam you should be able to get your money back. Might be worth the risk..........


Yikes and no feedback as a seller. I will update as I get more info. I paid with PayPal so I feel somewhat safe.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on January 7, 2015, 10:21 PM
Gotta be a scam. Looks like the seller copied a good portion of this listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Toys-1-6-MMS215-Iron-Man-3-Igor-Mark-XXXVIII-38/331043905395?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Da684df7c1bcd47ecaaad589eb34f4d32%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20131003132420%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D191475186980&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Toys-1-6-MMS215-Iron-Man-3-Igor-Mark-XXXVIII-38/331043905395?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Da684df7c1bcd47ecaaad589eb34f4d32%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20131003132420%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D191475186980&rt=nc)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MistaBinks on January 8, 2015, 01:27 AM
The figure is not shipping from Sideshow until Feb/March. This listing has it delivered by mid man. I might as well get those dispute forms ready.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2015, 09:32 AM
Yeah, that's the problem.  He's going to wait until Paypal's protection expires and then default on those purchases.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 8, 2015, 11:48 AM
Doesn't eBay have a policy that if an item hasn't shipped within 30 days that you can ask for a refund?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2015, 02:46 PM
Doesn't eBay have a policy that if an item hasn't shipped within 30 days that you can ask for a refund?

Maybe, but if that's the case he'll just mark it shipped at 29 days, then your protection will expire before it 'gets there.'

I don't know if Paypal has safeguards for this brand of scheme, but my guess is that's what this guy is planning at least.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MistaBinks on January 9, 2015, 08:41 PM
...AND the listing has been removed. Now to try and get my money back.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2015, 08:47 PM
Have you had any contact with the person yet?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MistaBinks on January 9, 2015, 08:56 PM
Have you had any contact with the person yet?

I sent him a message asking about the shipping dates. The listing claimed it would be delivered next week while Sideshow said they wouldn't even ship until Feb/March. I never heard back. I then checked the listing to see how many more he sold as he had 10 available. That is when I found "This listing (191475186980) has been removed, or this item is not available." I started the resolution process with Ebay. Argh. I should have known better, in fact I knew better, but still had to take a shot.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: MistaBinks on January 15, 2015, 05:23 PM
eBay refunded my money. Well, it was worth the shot I guess.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on January 15, 2015, 05:29 PM
Should be allowed to leave negative feedback for people in sutuatiobs like that.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 1, 2015, 02:50 PM
I am not asking this so I can do it. I'm dealing with an obnoxious seller right now who keeps taking his time to respond to questions and then finally will say/do something like he's moving to the next step in the process, but very slowly as if he hopes to drag it out so long the eBay protection policy expires. I was trying to think what he'd do next and this popped in my head.

Post pictures of something in your collection that is valuable on ebay for auction.
Winner takes it for $x00.00
Pay for and print shipping label.
Affix it to empty box and send it on it's way to winner.
He gets it. Lets eBay know the box was empty.
Do they believe him or does the seller keep the money because tracking number shows it delivered?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on February 1, 2015, 03:14 PM
I don't know who Ebay would side with, but I would imagine you could note the weight of the box as evidence that nothing was in there.  If he sent something else of approximately the same weight, then you'd have to try something else.  I guess as a buyer you could stoop to the sellers level and take a picture of something else in the box, claiming that's what you got.  Its totally dishonest, but in that case I don't see how Ebay could side with the seller.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2015, 11:05 PM
Here's a situation...  Not mine exactly but one that's come up recently.

A guy's selling 5 of the same figure, all in a picture together.  The description is simply, "You're bidding on the item in the picture".  The price is cheap and free shipping, but these aren't overly valuable things.  The auction says "5 available", by the way.

So you get the item...  Only one figure arrives, instead of the 5 in the picture...  Seems like a fishy thing to me.  Reportable?  Get your $ back?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on February 18, 2015, 07:23 AM
Fishy, but it says the Item not Items.  I would have asked before bidding I guess.  Hard to tell if this is intended trickery or just a lazy description.  The buyer could always ship it back for a refund at worst.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on February 18, 2015, 10:44 AM
Here's a situation...  Not mine exactly but one that's come up recently.

A guy's selling 5 of the same figure, all in a picture together.  The description is simply, "You're bidding on the item in the picture".  The price is cheap and free shipping, but these aren't overly valuable things.  The auction says "5 available", by the way.

So you get the item...  Only one figure arrives, instead of the 5 in the picture...  Seems like a fishy thing to me.  Reportable?  Get your $ back?

I did this last year.  I sold a little over 100 figures, mostly army builders for damn near $1,000.  For a given auction I showed a single photo of, say, all 7 Sandtroopers - then said auction is for one.  The auctions had BIN's for $6.99 or $7.99 or $4.99 or whatever the average going rate for a given figure was, had quantity available set to however many I had and were depicted in the photo.  I then encouraged people to check my other auctions so they'd buy a bunch of other stuff.  Lastly, I had shipping at $3.00 for one figure, $0.50 per figure after that.

All in all I probably sent out around 30 packages with anywhere from 1 to 5 figures in them. 

This was around Christmas time of 2013 and of those 30 packages, I had ONE guy who was furious that he didn't get all of the figures shown in the photo, everyone else understood the auctions and left positive feedback without issue.  I gathered that he was a parent or grandparent who was buying stuff for a kid and had no idea what the going rates were for this kind of stuff.

I used 7 Sandtroopers @ $6.99 as an example because that was this one guy's issue.  He filed a claim and left me negative feedback.  I responded to the claim that he clearly hadn't read the auction and that it was unreasonable for him to expect 7 figures that were worth $7.00 each, for $7.00 total.

He responded a few times to my responses, but never escalated the claim to the point where eBay actually has to decide.  So I can't tell you how they would have ruled.  The negative feedback sat on my record for a year then disappeared from the averages like it's supposed to.

The one thing they said when I called to see if there was any way to remove that feedback, was that since I showed photo with multiple figures, there was a chance they could rule against me if he escalated the claim and they advised me to just wait the 30 days and see if he did so.  I think I would have had a good case, but if I do that again at some point, I'll be even more careful to be explicit, and even consider taking 7 photos of the 7 figures, or just using 1 photo and saying you'll get a figure identical to the one in the picture.

Maybe I did a better job describing what I was selling than your guy, but 97% of the people I dealt with understood just fine.

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on February 18, 2015, 12:00 PM
Fishy, but it says the Item not Items.  I would have asked before bidding I guess.  Hard to tell if this is intended trickery or just a lazy description.  The buyer could always ship it back for a refund at worst.

I see these types of listings somewhat often and they are kind of a pain. For the US sellers that do it I think there is some level of trickery by trying to lure someone into a quick BIN, especially when the title and description seems rather vague. For the overseas "China factory" sellers I assume language may play a part.

Just to avoid any potential confusion I only use photos of a single figure, even if it's a BIN with multiples available (in which case I note that I'm using a stock photo). Like Rob's case I always assume there will be that one guy who doesn't read the descriptions, and only looks at the pics.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on February 18, 2015, 11:17 PM
I dig the responses...  I immediately kinda fell in the camp that if you say "you're bidding on the item in the pic", the picture is what you're getting...  Item, items...  it's possibly a mistake, or intentional, but a single pic of the figure would've been more logical than all 5 of the exact same thing.

To me, the picture makes it look like there was intent to sort of scam a BIN.  There's not enough $ involved to make it a huge deal, but I think I'm going to advise a request for some $ back, and if that doesn't fly, threaten to go to Ebay and negative feedback.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on February 18, 2015, 11:28 PM
I dig the responses...  I immediately kinda fell in the camp that if you say "you're bidding on the item in the pic", the picture is what you're getting...  Item, items...  it's possibly a mistake, or intentional, but a single pic of the figure would've been more logical than all 5 of the exact same thing.

To me, the picture makes it look like there was intent to sort of scam a BIN.  There's not enough $ involved to make it a huge deal, but I think I'm going to advise a request for some $ back, and if that doesn't fly, threaten to go to Ebay and negative feedback.

Don't threaten the seller that you will go to ebay and/or leave negative FB! That's a rule violation which I believe can actually get YOU in trouble. I'd hate for you to lose out on any claim for doing that.

Just curious would you be willing to share the auction link?
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on February 19, 2015, 12:04 AM
It's a friend of me mine who bought stuff for her kid, not me, but I should've worded that better (lot of that goin' 'round eh?:P).  I will be telling her to just write, be cordial, all that...  No threats, just let her know we'll handle it if he's not cooperative.

I do find it deceptive...  Her feedback may play against her as she's only like a 20-something I think.  I dunno.  I never filed a complaint so it's not my bag.  I'll try and get the link off her tomorrow for you.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Greg on February 19, 2015, 12:17 AM
It's a friend of me who bought stuff for her kid, not me, but I should've worded that better (lot of that goin' 'round eh?:P).  I will be telling her to just write, be cordial, all that...  No threats, just let her know we'll handle it if he's not cooperative.

I do find it deceptive...  Her feedback may play against her as she's only like a 20-something I think.  I dunno.  I never filed a complaint so it's not my bag.  I'll try and get the link off her tomorrow for you.

Jesse, your posts are deceptive trickery! I feel swindled out of my very valuable time! ;D

Honestly I would just avoid any mention of further action. I haven't personally had experience with the "threats" as either a buyer or seller, so I have no idea of how closely Ebay adhere's to those rules, but it's something I wouldn't want to take a chance with. Hopefully the seller steps up and at least offers to cover shipping costs for a return, so your friend can avoid the hassle of the Ebay Resolution Center.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on February 19, 2015, 12:31 AM
Yeah I'm going to just let her know to contact the person over it and see if she can get some $ back...  If they're a dick, no harm in escalation I suppose if she wants to.  I don't know that I would over essentially nothing big financially, but then again if you feel cheated and the whole thing isn't worded well, eh why not?

But yes, no threats or anything...  Wasn't on the table, just to be clear, I just meant let her know we'd go that route (feedback and contacting Ebay).  I assume simply contacting that you're not happy gets the point across that you're going to leave negatives if you're not satisfied.

Shipping costs were free, but I always just factor that into price ultimately.  It's become my hassle in a way, ugh.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on February 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
Just something else to consider - it is a royal pain setting up Ebay auctions IMHO.  Setting up multiple items in one picture or using the same picture for multiple auctions is a time saver versus creating everything from scratch five different times.  I hope it works out for your friend - just some added food for thought.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Rob on February 19, 2015, 01:17 PM
Just something else to consider - it is a royal pain setting up Ebay auctions IMHO.  Setting up multiple items in one picture or using the same picture for multiple auctions is a time saver versus creating everything from scratch five different times.  I hope it works out for your friend - just some added food for thought.

That's why I set mine up... it was just easier and I figured I explained it clearly.  Quite frankly, I don't think buyer's deserve any leeway if they're confused by a photo but the item details are clear.  I would NEVER look at a photo, buy something and send money without reading the auction and asking any questions I had beforehand.  I think eBay is too protective of buyers most of the time.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on February 19, 2015, 01:25 PM
The one thing I don't like about the group photo is that you never know which figure you're getting from the lot. It's not like you can actually stipulate "I want the third guy from the end, with the crisp paint apps".

As a regular buyer and seller I personally think you should always picture the specific item that is for sale, just to avoid hassles/confusion, but I also agree buyers should read carefully and ask questions up front. And I definitely agree it's a pain setting up auctions...ugh.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on February 19, 2015, 06:33 PM
The thing with the group pic is that they're all identical.  So if you wanted to sell simply one figure, why not just picture one?  Why picture all 5?

It still hasn't arrived even so I'm not even sure this is going to be any issue, I'm just sort of curious now.  This problem has sort of become my problem since I'm more experienced with Ebay in general, but I never really had an issue on it that didn't get resolved quickly and wasn't any big deal.

This isn't either though, I don't think anyway.  More a nuisance.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 19, 2015, 09:03 PM
This is the description to a custom SW fig on eBay. I laughed my ass off so I had to post it here.

"Custom Jawa Banker Deathlord represents the EVIL of the Banking Empire in action figure that you would have wanted, had it came out in 1978. Made from heavily damaged vintage figures and accessories.

Fun facts of the day folks.....Did you know that bankers have started, organized and funded every single major war in the last 300 years at least? Often times funding Both sides. Did you know that for every $1 you deposit in a bank the bank can then lend $10 out to anyone else they want to and charge crazy interest on that loan, when the interest you earn by allowing the bank to use your money is......that's right folks, next to nothing? Did you know that once you deposit your money in a bank it is now no longer considered your money and is now the banks? They can freeze and seize at will for whatever reason.

Paypal.....those *@&% Suckers like to draw money from my bank account when I have perfectly available funds in my paypal account. In so doing, they have now overdrafted my bank account 7 times incurring fees from my bank totaling over $200 because they wanted to use more of my money for their evil. The bank charged me $29 every time paypal tried this because they wanted to use their money for their evil and told paypal NO. Charging someone $29 to say no to someone else is Wrong! I HATE BANKERS!!!!!!!

The figure was made by me last night to help channel my rage. He encompasses the scavenger nature of a Jawa and the pure Evil of Darth Vader! Combined they equal a Banker......but cooler.

Thanks for looking and sorry for the rant"
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on May 19, 2015, 09:54 PM
Someone missed a dose.  :-\
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on May 20, 2015, 09:06 AM
LOL, PayPal does suck. Wait til their split from eBay is complete...going to be even worse soon.

My latest rant is yet another series of revisions to their seller fees that has all but crippled my side business. Only 20 free listings per month now and no more free BIN listings for DVD's and videos.

I don't understand why they simultaneously push members to sell more and then make it prohibitive for them to do so.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on May 20, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nick that posting is hilarious.  It goes from what I thought was a bad translation to English over to some kind of Consumer Activist message to just pure rant about Paypal.  Then he ties it all up by basically stating that he knows he's fully aware of all the crazy he just wrote.  Funny stuff - thanks for sharing. 
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on November 5, 2015, 12:26 AM
Not Ebay here, Amazon 3rd party actually incase anyone has any experience...

I bought something, seller contacted me requesting I cancel the order because he doesn't have it in stock.  OK, I'm fine with you not having it in stock, however, the item is still posted and went up (though very slightly). 

Alright, so that's sort of annoying, but again, why is the 3rd party seller asking that I cancel the sale?  Can't he?  And if I refuse to cancel the order, what's up then?

Which, I have sort of done that already and asked Amazon who contacted him and told him to sell the product to me...  But I mean if he doesn't have it honestly, then what?  Amazon Marketplace is a weird place.  Just wondered if anyone else ever ran into a hassle on it.  I never have till tonight.

In Ebay news, and this happened and I let it go, but I made an offer on something which had a make offer listing on it.  His BIN was like $10, I offered $5.  He writes back to me "There's XYZ in the lot, I think $10 is a fair price"...  OOOOOK then, but why did you have a make offer listing then?  I didn't even bother replying and just made a counter offer of even less to piss him off.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 5, 2015, 05:00 AM
Concerning the Amazon seller....I would report them to Amazon.  I was getting materials for my shadow box and found an item with ridiculously high shipping rates which I didn't notice until after I had purchased.  I told amazon about it, and although they said they couldn't do much about it, they gave me a refund on a couple of items that I had purchased through Amazon.

As far as the make an offer portion of ebay....I don't think I've ever had on accepted and I've been pretty reasonable in my offers.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on November 5, 2015, 10:28 AM
I use the make an offer option on Ebay (buying) fairly often.  Most sellers using that will put up a slightly higher than average sell price, then have a threshold they're willing to sell at.  In your case, a $10 item for $5 is 50% off what he's asking, so that's a lot to ask in my opinion.  Think about it from his end - is it even worth the hassle of shipping an item out if you're just getting $10 for it?  I tend to use it for bigger ticket items.  I got both my vintage palitoy droid factories using BIN - there's a lot more wiggle room on items selling >$100.  I also recently used it for the Disney elite Grievous figure, since I didn't get to the store and was too late to get one online.  A seller had it listed for $80 along with some exclusive Disney trading cards.  I offered $65 including shipping, which is still a lot higher than I wanted to pay, and she agreed to that.  It's really useful IMO, but not on lower ticket stuff.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Dave on November 5, 2015, 12:14 PM
BIN on eBay is so random.  I try it fairly often, but get declined 90% of the time.  Its still worth a try as a lot of people have things marked up too high.  Even when you point out recent sales equal to your offer they generally ignore your offer.

Amazon Marketplace is a complete crapshoot as far as I'm concerned and I am as careful buying stuff there as I am on eBay.  I've had stuff that I purchased that has never shown up.  I've had orders cancelled by the sellers since they didn't actually have the item.  (seriously- WTF?  I bitched to Amazon about this.  People should not be "selling" things on Amazon that they don't actually have in their hands).

The upside is that Amazon has always been really good about the failed orders and has always taken my side, not that I've ever had any jerks that I've had to deal with from sellers.  They freely admit when they haven't delivered.

I will say I've never had a seller ask me to cancel the order.  I would put that on them.  I'm guessing it comes down to how Amazon rates them internally on their ability to fulfill orders.  Make them pay for their non-delivery.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on November 5, 2015, 10:44 PM
Regarding the Ebay thing,
 
It's not really the point I was getting at, but as a side discussion I guess, I can't really say the woes of the seller impact me in any way...  If selling it for anything less than its list BIN price means he takes a loss on it somehow, by all means he shouldn't do that.  But then again, he also shouldn't imply he'll negotiate either.  That's just stupid on his part.

But, to my point, if you're listing a BIN of $10 and then you list Make Offer as an option, but anything less than $10 is now not worth your time...  that makes zero sense then.  And that gets back to my main question then that, if you're not willing to negotiate at all, why list Make Offer on your auction then?  The seller's reply to my $5 offer was simply, "It's got XYZ in the lot, I think $10 is a sufficient price".  Again, this makes zero sense, and seems to me like wasting time for wasting time's sake.  *shrugs*

To put it in a more real world context, I have bought quite a few cars over the years for "work cars".  I use scrap value of a junked car as my base price to work off of, and how far up I'm willing to come from that price, but that is what I can get out of the car should it turn out to be unfixable.  And I make my offer, and they make theirs (or don't...  Some guys get offended and won't negotiate), and you go from there.  I'm sure they have bills, and problems, and this and that, but they also have a car out of inspection for 2 years with holes you could put a toddler through in it.  It's not my problem and I'm offering them something more than they'll get at a junkyard for it.  If they're not willing to negotiate on that, that's fine, but they shouldn't say in their Craigslist listing "Negotiable" under the price they're asking then.

I'd have taken a counter-offer to my $5 offer on the auction, but he didn't give it...  Possibly just a situation of someone being so offended they would rather get nothing than something, I don't know.  But regardless of all that, I don't put myself in the place of the seller, as I am not the Ebay charity guy as a buyer.  I can only pay what I view it's worth, and they're either interested in talking about it, or not I guess...  sad on his part if he'd refuse anything, but fine.  I just found the listing having Make Offer on it to be, ultimately, silly.  He wasn't interested in that option being used.

In regards to the Amazon thing, I've never really had much issue, and Matt, I did take it to Amazon, but kind of on accident.

I started a chat just to ask them why the seller would ask me to cancel the order, told the rep all the details, etc.  They escalated it though because that struck them as fishy, and Amazon seemed genuinely annoyed he listed an item then claimed not to have it.  So I ultimately go them involved, but I only wanted to know if I were to cancel the order myself (as the seller oddly requested) if it somehow could come back on me in some negative way.  They force the seller's hand, and he had to cancel the order and remove his listing ultimately.  It was my first "odd" situation.  The item in question has risen in price in the last year or two, and it may be that which made the seller regret the listing being left up.  And by the by, he was indeed forced to remove the item.  So there's that, at least.

Anyway, I'm watching their store now and plan to report them if it pops back up for an inflated price.  I doubt it does much good, but hey, I feel this person was shifty on this, so piss on them.

Dave, I've had probably a 50/50 (or close) rate of success using Make Offer on Ebay...  I tend to buy customizing junk or diorama junk that way, or a lot of things from Asia have that in the listings, and I find it's because they know they got it for 5 finger discount or very cheap at least, and I wind up doing well...  It's all in what you're willing to pay, and willing to walk away from the negotiation over.  I always just take into account the retail prices if I know them, their shipping offer, if I want more if they have more, etc.  Whatever factors I can, basically, and ultimately what it is worth to me, to own whatever worthless thing it is I'm trying to buy.   :-[

I negotiate at the local toy show, always, and usually find guys will talk...  It's usually bundling stuff together to get a lower price, but I've had 99% success at the toy show.  Only one guy ever was a douche about negotiation, and he doesn't set up any longer.  I can't fathom it's because he seemed to sell so little, and asked a mint for every random POS he had on his table.  Friends who set up at the show all generally feel the same way...  Negotiation leads to sales, and you never want to leave heavier than you showed up with toys.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on November 6, 2015, 08:45 AM
I will say that when I offer the Best Offer option on my auctions, I will often take into account where the person lives who is making the offer. I offer Free Shipping on all my auctions, so selling something for $10 to a guy in Maryland or North Carolina is a lot more attractive to me than selling the same item to a guy in Alaska. So in some cases yeah, I might not be able to make the $$$ work depending on how far the item has to travel, but I am always upfront about it with people.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on November 6, 2015, 02:39 PM
Like Dave said, I think it's pretty random.  I made an offer to a guy on Ebay a month ago for 20% below his asking price.  He sent back a note chewing me out for lowballing and told me never to bid on any of his auctions.  Done.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: Jesse James on November 6, 2015, 11:56 PM
Lol I'd have had to dick with that guy.  Just telling me not to would be every reason to always lowball him on stuff. ;D

I thought about low balling the guy I'm dealing with as the auction is ending soon and nobody is even watching it but me.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on January 6, 2016, 06:59 PM
Well, after umpteen sales transactions without a hitch, I finally ran into a problem buyer. I sold some loose figures along with their original packaging, and mentioned clearly in the listing that I would be shipping them in their original packaging. I guess they got jostled around in shipping and were all askew in the inner clam shell. He somehow interprets this as the items bring in bad condition.  ::) never mind that both the figures themselves, as well as the packaging are both totally undamaged. Dude wants a full refund plus me to foot the bill for his return shipping.

Praying I can talk my way out of this one but I'm expecting pain.  :(

Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on January 6, 2016, 10:51 PM
That sucks.  Did you get insurance from the post on your package?  You might be able to get them to at least pay the return postage if the shipping caused the "damage."
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: McMetal on January 7, 2016, 08:20 AM
I ship Priority about half the time, which comes with $50 insurance, but I don't think this was one of those, unfortunately. I heard back from him again last night and I guess he is saying now that the figures themselves arrived damaged. He included a couple of pictures but I have no way of knowing whether he did that himself or it actually happened in transit. I know they did not leave my hands like that. I offered to give him a 25% refund and let him keep the figures so we'll see what happens. I'm pretty sure he is not going to play ball though.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on January 7, 2016, 01:39 PM
I would be pretty suspicious if the figures were damaged in shipment.  Either a tank rolled over the box or he's trying to pull a fast one.  Did you look at his buyer history?  I wonder if there's any evidence of him doing something similar in the past.  It's probably not a bad idea to snap a picture of stuff as you box it up just as evidence, though I never remember to do that.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 29, 2016, 03:45 PM
I had to post this. Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-STAR-WARS-VIRAL-WARS-REVENGE-OF-THE-VIRI-EBOLA-FETT-FIGURE-MOC-/201571978596?hash=item2eeea04d64:g:6R0AAOSw1DtXI6XN
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: JediJman on April 29, 2016, 04:09 PM
LOL Ebola Fett.  Creative.  Dumb, but creative.
Title: Re: Everything eBay! Scams, questions, etc...
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 23, 2017, 10:38 AM
The part that makes this hilarious to me is that it has a reserve price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-BB8-POTATO-/182463173706?hash=item2a7ba7144a:g:V9QAAOSwTuJYrKt~