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Title: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Snively Bandar on January 27, 2004, 02:33 AM
So what'd you guys think of the Golden Globe awards last night?  You into that kind of stuff, or are award shows not your thing?  Oscar nominations are due out tomorrow morning as well.  What are your predictions?  Who do you want to see win?

Here's some of the Golden Globe winners from last night:

Picture - Drama:
Cold Mountain
The Lord Of the Rings: The Return Of the King - WINNER
Master and Commander
Mystic River
Seabiscuit

Picture - Musical or Comedy:
Bend It Like Beckham
Big Fish
Finding Nemo
Lost In Translation - WINNER
Love Actually

Actor In a Leading Role - Drama:
Russell Crowe in Master and Commander
Tom Cruise in The Last Samurai
Ben Kingsley in House Of Sand and Fog
Jude Law in Cold Mountain
Sean Penn in Mystic River - WINNER

Actor In a Leading Role - Musical or Comedy:
Jack Black in The School Of Rock
Johnny Depp in Pirates Of the Caribbean
Bill Murray in Lost In Translation - WINNER
Jack Nicholson in Something's Gotta Give
Billy Bob Thornton in Bad Santa

Actress In a Leading Role - Drama:
Cate Blanchett in Veronica Guerin
Scarlett Johansson in Girl With a Pearl Earring
Nicole Kidman in Cold Mountain
Charlize Theron in Monster - WINNER
Uma Thurman in Kill Bill (Vol. 1)
Evan Rachel Wood in Thirteen

Actress In a Leading Role - Musical or Comedy:
Jamie Lee Curtis in Freaky Friday
Scarlett Johansson in Lost In Translation
Diane Keaton in Something's Gotta Give - WINNER
Diane Lane in Under the Tuscan Sun
Helen Mirren in Calendar Girls

Actor In a Supporting Role:
Alec Baldwin in The Cooler
Albert Finney in Big Fish
William H. Macy in Seabiscuit
Tim Robbins in Mystic River - WINNER
Peter Sarsgaard in Shattered Glass
Ken Watanabe in The Last Samurai

Actress In a Supporting Role:
Maria Bello in The Cooler
Patricia Clarkson in Pieces Of April
Hope Davis in American Splendor
Holly Hunter in Thirteen
Renée Zellweger in Cold Mountain - WINNER

Director:
Sofia Coppola for Lost In Translation
Clint Eastwood for Mystic River
Peter Jackson for The Lord Of the Rings: The Return Of the King - WINNER
Anthony Minghella for Cold Mountain
Peter Weir for Master and Commander

Original Score:
Big Fish Composed by Danny Elfman
Cold Mountain Composed by Gabriel Yared
Girl With a Pearl Earring Composed by Alexandre Desplat
The Last Samurai Composed by Hans Zimmer
The Lord Of the Rings: ROTK Composed by Howard Shore - WINNER

Original Song:
"The Heart Of Every Girl" From Mona Lisa Smile Music by Elton John Lyric by Bernie Taupin
"Into the West" From The Lord Of the Rings: The Return Of the King Music and Lyric by Annie Lennox, Howard Shore, Frances Walsh - WINNER
"Man Of the Hour" From Big Fish Music and Lyric by Eddie Vedder
"Time Enough For Tears" From In America Music and Lyric by Bono, Gavin Friday, Maurice Seezer
"You Will Be My Ain True Love" From Cold Mountain Music and Lyric by Sting



I was excited to see LOTR take home best movie (drama), director, and the score and song awards.  The more hardware for this flick, the better.  Well deserved, and hopefully it'll repeat, along with Jackson as Director, at the Oscars.

I was also glad to see Charlize and Renee win their actress awards.  Charlize was amazing in that Monster role!  Good to see Sofia Coppola get the Screenplay too (not listed here).

My only disappointment last night was Johnny Depp not winning best actor for a Comedy film (comedy?).  Hopefully Johnny will get another shot when the Oscar nods roll out tomorrow.  But Bill Murray has always been insanely funny throughout his career, so I was excited to see him recognized with a GG award.

Should be interesting to see what surprises and disappointments the always interesting Oscar nominations have in store for us tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2004, 03:01 AM
Finally, a bunch of award show results I can't argue with!!

I caught a bit of this show on VH1 tonight called 'Best Week Ever', and the had a spot about ROTK. One comedian mentioned something along these lines: " If Return of the King doesn't win the Best Picture Oscar, it's going to make the LA Riots look like kindergarten."

 :)
Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: JediMAC on January 27, 2004, 02:00 PM
What, no Oscar update Grant?!  Ya' gotta finish what you started bud!   :P  OK, guess I'll do the honors then...

Best Picture
"Lord of the Rings: Return of the King"
"Lost in Translation"
"Master and Commander: Far Side of the World"
"Mystic River"
"Seabiscuit"

Best Actor
Johnny Depp,"Pirates of the Caribbean"
Ben Kingsley, "House of Sand and Fog"
Jude Law, "Cold Mountain"
Bill Murray, "Lost in Translation"
Sean Penn, "Mystic River"

Best Actress
Diane Keaton "Something’s Gotta Give"
Charlize Theron, "Monster"
Naomi Watts, "21 Grams"
Keisha Castle Hughes, "Whale Rider"
Samantha Morton, "In America"

Best Supporting Actor
Alec Baldwin, "The Cooler"
Benicio Del Toro, "21 Grams"
Djimon Hounsou, "In America"
Tim Robbins, "Mystic River"
Ken Watanabe, "The Last Samurai"
(Where the hell's Gollum, dammit?!?)

Best Supporting Actress
Shohreh Aghdashloo, "House of Sand and Fog"
Patricia Clarkson, "Pieces of April"
Marcia Gay Harden, "Mystic River"
Holly Hunter, "thirteen"
Renee Zellweger, "Cold Mountain"

Best Director
Fernando Meirelles, "City of God"
Peter Jackson, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
Sofia Coppola, "Lost in Translation"
Peter Weir, "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
Clint Eastwood, "Mystic River"

Best Original Screenplay
Denys Arcand, "The Barbarian Invasions"
Steven Knight, "Dirty Pretty Things"
Andrew Stanton, Bob Peterson and David Reynolds, "Finding Nemo"
Jim Sheridan & Naomi Sheridan & Kirsten Sheridan, "In America"
Sofia Coppola, "Lost in Translation"

Best Adapted Screenplay
Robert Pulcini & Shari Springer Berman, "American Splendor"
Braulio Mantovani, "City of God"
Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens & Peter Jackson, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
Brian Helgeland, "Mystic River"
Gary Ross, "Seabiscuit"

Best Animated Film
"Brother Bear"
"Finding Nemo"
"The Triplets of Belleville"

Best Original Song
"Into the West" from "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King," Fran Walsh, Howard Shore and Annie Lennox
"A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow" from "A Mighty Wind," Michael McKean and Annette O’Toole
"Scarlet Tide" from "Cold Mountain," T Bone Burnett and Elvis Costello
"The Triplets of Belleville" from "The Triplets of Belleville," Benoit Charest and Sylvain Chomet
"You Will Be My Ain True Love" from "Cold Mountain," Sting

Best Original Score
"Big Fish," Danny Elfman
"Cold Mountain," Gabriel Yared
"Finding Nemo," Thomas Newman
"House of Sand and Fog," James Horner
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King," Howard Shore

Best Editing
"City of God"
"Cold Mountain"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Seabiscuit"

Best Art Direction
"Girl with a Pearl Earring"
"The Last Samurai"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Seabiscuit"

Best Cinematography
"City of God"
"Cold Mountain"
"Girl with a Pearl Earring"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Seabiscuit"

Best Costume Design
"Girl with a Pearl Earring"
"The Last Samurai"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Seabiscuit"

Best Makeup
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"

Best Sound
"The Last Samurai"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"
"Seabiscuit"

Best Sound Editing
"Finding Nemo"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"

Best Visual Effects

"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"
Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: JediMAC on January 27, 2004, 02:06 PM
I'm definitely disappointed to not see the brilliant technical acting achievement that is Gollum/Andy Sedakis, not get nominated for Best Supporting Actor.  I thought if a CG character ever had a shot at an acting nomination, it would be him...  Oh well.   :-\

Also shunned:  Cold Mountain, Russell Crowe, Nicole Kidman, and Tom Cruise.   ::)

Since I'm more interested in the entertainment aspect of movies, moreso than the dramatic elements and all that nonsense, I'm pulling for ROTK and Pirates to do well.  If ROTK doesn't at least win best picture and director, I'll be very pissed.  I'd love to see Depp take home the best actor award too, since I loved Pirates, and thought he did an incredible job as Jack Sparrow.  Guess we'll find out in about a month!

As for the Golden Globes awarded the other night - couldn't argue with too many of them really.  Bill Murray's acceptance speech was pretty funny.  Nice to see him win, since comedic performances usually don't get much recognition, and I've loved him ever since his old SNL and Stripes days...   8)

Hope George Lucas is paying attention to Peter Jackson and ROTK's nominations and wins, to see how it should be done.   ::)
Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: Brian on January 27, 2004, 02:58 PM
Just for the heck of it, I'll throw these in here as well.  Apparently the "Razzies" nominees have been announced as well (I remember AOTC appearing on these lists in 2002 I believe).  Anyways, here's the list:

24th Annual Golden Raspberry (RAZZIE®) Award Nominations

WORST PICTURE

CAT-IN-THE HAT (Universal/Dreamworks/Imagine)
CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE (Columbia)
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY (20th Century-Fox)
GIGLI (Columbia/Revolution)
THE REAL CANCUN (New Line)

WORST ACTOR

Ben Affleck / DAREDEVIL, GIGLI and PAYCHECK
Cuba Gooding, Jr. / BOAT TRIP, FIGHTING TEMPTATIONS and RADIO
Justin Guarini / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
Ashton Kutcher / CHEAPER by the DOZEN, JUST MARRIED and MY BOSS'S DAUGHTER
Mike Myers / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT

WORST ACTRESS

Drew Barrymore / CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE and DUPLEX
Cameron Diaz / CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE
Kelly Clarkson / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
Angelina Jolie / BEYOND BORDERS
and LARA CROFT TOMB RAIDER: THE CRADLE of LIFE
Jennifer Lopez / GIGLI

WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR

Anthony Anderson / KANGAROO JACK
Alec Baldwin / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT
Al Pacino / GIGLI
Sylvester Stallone (Whose 5 Roles Could Fill This ENTIRE Category!) SPY KIDS 3-D: GAME OVER
Christopher Walken / GIGLI and KANGAROO JACK

WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Lanie Kazan / GIGLI
Demi Moore / CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE
Kelly Preston / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT
Brittany Murphy / JUST MARRIED
Tara Reid / MY BOSS'S DAUGHTER

WORST SCREEN COUPLE

Ben Affleck & Jennifer Lopez / GIGLI
Eric Christian Olsen & Derek Richardson / DUMB AND DUMBERER
Justin Guarini & Kelly Clarkson / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
Ashton Kutcher & EITHER Brittany Murphy (JUST MARRIED)
or Tara Reid (MY BOSS's DAUGHTER)
Mike Myers & EITHER Thing One OR Thing Two / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT

WORST EXCUSE for an ACTUAL MOVIE (All Concept/No Content!) (New Category)

2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS
CHARLIE'S ANGLES: FULL THROTTLE
THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
THE REAL CANCUN

WORST REMAKE or SEQUEL

2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS
CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE
DUMB & DUMBERER: WHEN HARRY MET LLOYD
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY (Remake of WHERE THE BOYS ARE ‘60 and WHERE THE BOYS ARE ‘84)
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE

WORST DIRECTOR

Martin Brest / GIGLI
Robert Iscove / FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
Mort Nathan / BOAT TRIP
The Wachowski Brothers / Both MATRIX Sequels
Bo Welch / THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT

WORST SCREENPLAY

THE CAT-IN-THE-HAT, Screenplay by Alec Berg, David Mandel and Jeff Schaffer
CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE, Screenplay by John August and
Cormac & Marianne Wibberley, “Story” by August
DUMB AND DUMBERER, Screenplay by Robert Brener and Troy Miller, “Story” by Brener
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY, Written by Kim Fuller
GIGLI, Written by Martin Brest

NOMINATIONS PER PICTURE:

GIGLI – 9
CAT-IN-THE-HAT – 8
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY – 8
CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE - 7
BOAT TRIP, DUMB & DUMBERER, JUST MARRIED, MY BOSS’S DAUGHTER
and THE REAL CANCUN – - 2 Each

“WINNERS” WILL BE ANNOUNCED SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 28
Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: Scott on January 27, 2004, 11:13 PM
Grant must have fallen asleep after watching the awards nomination ceremony this morning

This is dedicated to my good friend Mr Birchall from OKC, OK

PEARL JAM GOT SHAFTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLARGH, Fie to you Oscar

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Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: Snively Bandar on February 27, 2004, 04:37 AM
What, no Oscar update Grant?!  Ya' gotta finish what you started bud!   :P

Whoops!  Sorry about that!  Thanks for taking care of that JediMAC, as I was just looking for my old thread here to bump it up for the Oscars this weekend.  So what races have you guys interested?  I'm really hoping that LOTR cleans house.  That's just been such an amazing trilogy that I think they need to go out with the ultimate bang, and all the credit in the world, especially Peter Jackson.

I'm with JediMAC and am really hoping for an upset win by Johnny Depp too, for Pirates.  Loved him in that movie!

So what's everyone's picks?  My girlfriend is actually talking about throwing a little Oscar party over at her parent house with a bunch of our friends.  Why do girls always have such a need to "entertain"?   :P
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 27, 2004, 09:02 AM
Dang, this reminds me that I need to watch Lost in Translation and I wish I could have seen Mystic River before this weekend.  I think ROTK is a lock for best picture and original song now that Pearl Jam isn't there to play spoiler...its a shame Sean Astin didn't get nominated

My picks:

Best Picture: ROTK
Best Actor: Penn
Best Actress: Theron
Supporting Actor: Robbins
Supporting Actress: Zellweger
Director: Jackson
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 02:00 PM
I watched Lost in Translation last night, great movie, definitely like the way Sofia has progressed as a film maker...agreed that Scarlett Johansson is a definite hotty, Bill Murray is an absolute genius and I would love for him to win but I don't think its going to happen.  My pick stays with Penn as he's been a long time nominee.  The only thing I would say is that he's a huge outsider and that may translate into a mini upset for Murray

As long as ROTK wins a bunch of awards I'll be happy tonight, I enjoy watching the show as long as Whoopi isn't hosting, for some reason I despise her
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 02:08 PM
Murray should and will win tonight.

I like Sean Penn, and he was good in Mystic River--but not nearly as good as

Mr. Bob Hallis!!!!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 02:14 PM
My favorite thing about Murray is you know he's making stuff up on the fly half the time which makes the people he's acting with smile and laugh at him.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 02:38 PM
My favorite thing about Murray is you know he's making stuff up on the fly half the time which makes the people he's acting with smile and laugh at him.

Yeah, I hear you.  I've always gotten the feeling with him that he'd just be a cool, down-to-earth, regular guy, that wouldn't be above having a beer and shooting-the-sh1t with you if you ran to him at the local bar.

(And I guess he's my favorite actor now, since Harrison Ford's gone to sh!t over the last decade or so.  That's what my Guzzlefish stats tell me, at least.)

Funny, too--the the two main guys duking it out for the Oscar tonight got their movie careers started in much the same way, by playing dumbasses in some (relatively) low-brow comedies in the early eighties. . .  (one a perpetually-stoned surfer dude, the other, a perpetually-retarded groundskeeper. . .)

And, did anyone besides me see House of Sand and Fog?  What a great (if not horribly sad) movie--with some absolutely terrific performances by Kingsley and. . .  that woman, playing his wife.  Shohreh Aghdashloo.  She might not win tonight, but I hope she does.  

It's a shame that more people didn't see that movie.  It'll probably do better on cable and DVD than it did in the theatres. . .
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 02:48 PM
And, funny, too, with Lost in Translation:  I love it--I've seen it at least three or four times in the month that I've had the DVD.

My mom and dad watched it (separately--they're divorced), and they both hated it, for two different reasons:

Mom hated it because she didn't like the way that the movie made it seem okay for two married people to even think about going outside of their respective marriages (no matter for what reason).

Dad kept asking "what's the point?" and "where is this going?", (along with a few "I don't get it"s) and the only time he laughed was when Bob was having difficulties with the excersize machine.  I think he was expecting more of a standard fish-out-of-water comedy, with Bill trying to get along in Tokyo, and not the drama between two wayward people that it really was.
Title: Re: Golden Globe winners & Oscar nominees
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 02:55 PM
Regarding the Razzies:

“WINNERS” WILL BE ANNOUNCED SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 28

So, what film was the big "winner" last night?

Or rather,

How many did Gigli get, exactly?

Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 02:58 PM
6 big ones for Gigli, missed tying the Showgirls and Battlefield Earth's record by 1 :(

http://www.razzies.com/asp/24thAwards.htm?cmd=view&articleid=185
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 08:29 PM
Some last-minute, testicle-free predictions on the biggies from yours truly:

Picture:  Rings
Actor: Murray
Actress: Theron
Director: Jackson
Supporting Actor: Robbins
Supporting Actress: Aghdashloo
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 08:52 PM
Supporting Actor goes to Tim Robbins. . .
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Vator on February 29, 2004, 08:56 PM
Was it me or was that the corniest intro ever? And why did he start singing, sheesh, it almost made me want to put it on TPM.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 09:02 PM
Was it me or was that the corniest intro ever? And why did he start singing, sheesh, it almost made me want to put it on TPM.

That's been Crystal's schtick whenever he hosts the Oscars--he'll do a big medley of parody songs having to do with each of the five films up for the Best Picture.

And, Best Dress of the evening (so far) goes to Angelina Jolie's. . .   :o
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 09:21 PM
Renee wins Best Supporting Actress. . .
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 09:23 PM
Agreed on the dress, my wife called me into the room to check that baby out, thanks honey!

2 for 2 Baybee!  KING WARLORD OF OSCAR BETTING, look it up, I predicted this days ago...I RULE!  BOW DOWN TO MY SKILLZ
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 09:23 PM
Renee wins Best Supporting Actress. . .

. . .and is also the early favorite for "Most Annoying Acceptance Speech".

Congrats!  

Now shut the hell up!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 09:44 PM
Nothing against Alison Krauss and company--I like her just fine--but, man, two songs from Cold Mountain nominated for Best Song, and yet nothing for The Band That Shall Not Be Named, from Big Fish?  

Ouch.

Hope the Mighty Wind song wins--and I look forward to seeing it performed here in a little while. . .
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:04 PM
7 so far for ROTK...huzzah!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on February 29, 2004, 11:14 PM
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Hope the Mighty Wind song wins--and I look forward to seeing it performed here in a little while. . .

The highlight of the show so far!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:18 PM
Quote
Hope the Mighty Wind song wins--and I look forward to seeing it performed here in a little while. . .

The highlight of the show so far!

Yeah, definitely.

They didn't win?

Hey, wha' 'appen?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:19 PM
I made that up Wha' 'appen, feel free to use that one, OK?!?!

#8!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:21 PM
You know, just because Rings was nominated, doesn't mean that you have to vote for it, Academy voting-morons. . .  

(Anyone have any doubt that it'll take Best Picture now?)

(Oh yeah, and I think Charlize may have just taken the lead in the "Best Dress" category. . .)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:21 PM
Wha really 'appen is this...WE GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:25 PM
Just checking ye old Record Book, the record for most Oscars won in a year is 11, Titanic and Ben-Hur
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:27 PM
Wha really 'appen is this...WE GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!

Forget them--how 'bout the entire flick:

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Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:28 PM
How many more awards to go?  The screenplays, director, actors, and film?

Rings is up for at least three more. . .
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on February 29, 2004, 11:29 PM
Are we at 8 now for LOTR?

I'll drive down and take a whiffle bat if he makes one more lame New Zealand joke.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:29 PM
Yeah 2 Screenplays, Director, Actors and Film, they got 11 Nominations, the Screenplay is the one they might lose...but the way things are going, no way, 11 for 11!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:31 PM
Nope #9!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:31 PM
Adapted Screenplay's theirs. . .  

Haven't they only missed one so far--a sound one--to Master & Commander?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:32 PM
Let's all thank Peter Jackson for dressing up for the evening.

I didn't catch it--is he wearing shoes?  
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on February 29, 2004, 11:38 PM
I was actually hoping for a tux with shorts.

Sofia Copola just won for original screenplay, which I'm betting puts LIT out for any other major wins...
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 11:38 PM
If he wants to make The Hobbit...he needs to mix in a Salad or 3 to his menu
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:40 PM
Regarding Lost in Translation--anyone else heard yet (I'm sure Tydirium has) that it's a slightly-autobiographical story about Sofia Coppola (Charlotte), Coppola's (now ex) husband and music video/film director Spike Jonze (Charlotte's husband), and Cameron Diaz (the ditzy blonde actress in the hotel)?

No word on who Bill/Bob is supposed to be. . .
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on February 29, 2004, 11:54 PM
Sure looks like a sweep for LOTR now. Can't decide who has scruffier hair, him or his wife Fran.  :)

Didn't know that was the case with LIT. Ditch her for Cameron Ditz-ex? Lame!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 11:59 PM
Here we go--come on, Bill!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on March 1, 2004, 12:01 AM
Goddamn it.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on March 1, 2004, 12:09 AM
Couple things--

Bill wuz robbed!

Mikey Goonie was crying.

Andy Serkis should have given the acceptance speech, in Gollum-speak.

Wonder if Uncle George is watching this evening, as he continues the post-production on III. . .

And finally. . .

How come Michael Moore didn't present any awards tonight?

 ???
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on March 1, 2004, 12:14 AM
Well, Moore was squished under a Mumakil, does that count?

Urgh on the Bill M robbery. That's too bad. He wouldn't have made any stupid WMD cracks.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 12:20 AM
Man, Bill actually looked pissed, not sure if that was a schtick or he really was mad...Did ROTK deserve 11 Oscars, nope...did LOTR deserve 11 Oscars, yep...

George better be working extra hard, he's gotta give some hope for GNT (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013576#000032)

Goonies!!!!  Mikey rocks
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Ben on March 1, 2004, 12:26 AM
Glad to see ROTK take Best Picture. The peace between the Academy and the unwashed masses may continue for another year.


Did Master and Commander win anything? I was flipping between this, Braveheart, and Buffy so I might have missed it.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on March 1, 2004, 12:29 AM
I believe M & C won some award for sound-something, that I thought it beat out Rings for, but I heard wrong, apparently. . .

And I can't wait for 2006's Oscars!  Star Wars is gonna kick Rings' ass!  

Preach on, Brother Gregggggg!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Darby on March 1, 2004, 12:37 AM
Yeah, Bill looked a little peeved, but I would be, too.  There's no shame in being disappointed, and Sean Penn's speech about how there's no such thing as 'best' acting was right on.  

ROTK: Proof sometimes the right thing does happen.

Sofia Coppola: Richly deserving, she wrote/directed the best American film in years, and really made the best film of 2003, but ROTK won not for itself, but the trilogy.

LOL, Ben, I was flipping between Buffy/Braveheart as well.  
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Ben on March 1, 2004, 12:45 AM
I was even taping Buffy, but I still had to watch it. And I've got Braveheart on DVD. Meh, I'm weak.

I was also thrilled to see Sofia Coppola win her award. LIT was a great flick. :)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 1, 2004, 01:12 AM
Renee wins Best Supporting Actress. . .

. . .and is also the early favorite for "Most Annoying Acceptance Speech".

Congrats!  

Now shut the hell up!

I'm pretty sure I stopped watching the show after about 8 minutes of her rambling on. I already knew who'd win what anyway.  ::)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Darby on March 1, 2004, 01:15 AM
LOL.

Ms. Zellweger is a very good actress, especially when she's acting surprised that's she's won.  She reacted the EXACT same way when she won the Golden Globe, almost to the point that made you wonder if it was rehearsed.  Her sincerity comes off a little earnest and maybe a bit forced.  Maybe it's just me.  
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on March 1, 2004, 01:58 AM
George better be working extra hard, he's gotta give some hope for GNT (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013576#000032)


Urgh, I actually went into an RS thread!

To quote the complete content of a post-pad from your buddy:

::)

He can keep on dreamin'.

So ROTK took away 11 awards. I'm right there with OCB on this - the movie itself doesn't deserve the honor, but the trilogy as a whole does. Which I think isn't fair on really great movies like Mystic River that just didn't have a chance against a sort of pent-up vote. On the other hand, like he mentioned in his speach, it's wonderful to see a fantasy film actually get some recognition.

Not a member of the Renee "Squinting is Cute" fanclub. I don't get the greatest vibe of sincerity off of her. Though, I agree Spuffy, she can act.

Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 10:29 AM
Dang, this reminds me that I need to watch Lost in Translation and I wish I could have seen Mystic River before this weekend.  I think ROTK is a lock for best picture and original song now that Pearl Jam isn't there to play spoiler...its a shame Sean Astin didn't get nominated

My picks:

Best Picture: ROTK
Best Actor: Penn
Best Actress: Theron
Supporting Actor: Robbins
Supporting Actress: Zellweger
Director: Jackson

BTW...keep bowing to my Skillz
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on March 1, 2004, 10:36 AM
Dang, this reminds me that I need to watch Lost in Translation and I wish I could have seen Mystic River before this weekend.  I think ROTK is a lock for best picture and original song now that Pearl Jam isn't there to play spoiler...its a shame Sean Astin didn't get nominated

My picks:

Best Picture: ROTK
Best Actor: Penn
Best Actress: Theron
Supporting Actor: Robbins
Supporting Actress: Zellweger
Director: Jackson

BTW...keep bowing to my Skillz

Yeah, way to really put your balls out there with those picks, man.

Clap, clap, clap.

Did you even see anything besides ROTK?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 10:40 AM
Of the big 6 or 7 movies with more than 4 nominations I saw...ROTK, Lost, Nemo, Seabiscuit and Pirates so :-* my ass, missed Cold Mountain, Master and Commander and Mystic River :-\
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt on March 1, 2004, 10:48 AM
:-* my ass

Why, I never!

(REPORT POST)

(runs off to create a "Get rid of OCB" petition)

. . .

To be on-topic:

I think that it should be a new rule, that all of the Oscar winners each year have to get together and make a new movie together to be debuted the weekend of the next Oscars.

So, next year, we'll have a movie written by Sofia Coppola, directed by Peter Jackson, and starring Sean Penn, Charlize Theron, Tim Robbins, and Renee Zellweger--and then made by pretty much the entire crew of Lord of the Rings.

Let's make that a rule.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Darby on March 1, 2004, 03:11 PM
That would be cool.   ;D
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: FX-7 on March 1, 2004, 03:35 PM
Damn, I wish ROTK would have one more award so the real King could have beaten Titanic.  My favorite moment of the night was when Adrian Brody sprayed his mouth with Binaca... :P
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on March 1, 2004, 03:54 PM
I dunno, the Will Farrell/Jack Black "You're Boring" song was the defining moment, me thinks.  :)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: JediMAC on March 1, 2004, 04:51 PM
Glad to see ROTK (LOTR) getting it's due finally.  11 for 11...  Not too shabby!   8)  Can anyone refresh my memory on how many they won for the first two movies?  I know they got fairly shunned, but I don't recall how badly now.

As for the show itself, it wasn't great, but there were some entertaining moments, topped by Adrien Brody's binaca spray.  I hit the floor in hysterics when he did that!   :P  I also enjoyed the "Return of the Host" intro with Billy, the Mighty Wind performance, the You're Boring song, and especially the clip where Michael Moore gets stomped.  That was a classic!

I was disappointed the Best Actor award didn't go to either Depp or Murray though, but other than that, no major gripes.  I just would've hated to be another movie competing against the steamroller that was ROTK last night.  Why weren't Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli there though?  That was weak...  I see Russell Crowe was boycotting the show too.

BTW, gotta agree with Billy - way to really go out on a limb there 4-LOSW Jr.   ::)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Brian on March 1, 2004, 05:06 PM
My wife and I were wondering the same thing, where the rest of the cast from LOTR was.  I can only assume they were filming a movie somewhere or something along those lines, because you would sure think more of them would have been there otherwise.

Back on topic now, I am really glad that Return of the King won what it did.  I really went into the night hoping that it would win best picture, and Jackson would win best director.  To go 11 for 11 is just outstanding, and very deserved I think.  We finally got a chance to sit down and watch the EE of FOTR (TTT is next weekend hopefully), and it just amazes me how great each of these movies is.  There isn't a stinker in the bunch, and I think that is a true credit to Tolkien, Peter Jackson, and the entire cast and crew.  It isn't a movie trilogy where I would say "nah, let's watch one of the other ones", because they are all very well done, in my opinion.  Anyways, very happy for all those involved, they deserve all the credit in the world.

Also...I was hoping that Depp or Murray would have gotten best actor, but I guess I wasn't surprised they didn't.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: jokabofe on March 1, 2004, 09:14 PM
it was great to see rotk get 11 oscars. but why didn't they get a nomination for best cinematography? i was kinda confused by that... that would have made 12.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on March 2, 2004, 10:05 AM
FOTR won 4 (Cinematography, Makeup, Music, Visual Effects)
TTT won 2 (Sound Editing, Visual Effects)
ROTK won 11

17 total
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: FX-7 on March 2, 2004, 11:30 AM
How many did the 5 SW films win?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on March 2, 2004, 01:13 PM
ANH: 7 (Art, Costumes, Editing, Score, Sound, Effects, Ben Burrt won a Special Award for Effects)
ESB: 2 (Sound, Effects)
ROTJ: 1 (Effects)
TPM: 0 (3 nominations though)
AOTC 0 (1 nomination)

So ROTK by itself has eclipsed all 3 movies...I do think TPM should have beaten The Matrix in the effects department IMO, the stuff in The Matrix was great but I didn't see any realistic looking CGI doofuses running around, if Jar Jar was respectable they would have won for sure
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: SilverZ on March 3, 2004, 07:48 PM
Wondered the same thing about some of the cast missing from the show, then saw this after reading an update at thedigitalbits.com:

After Party (http://www.iansmith.co.uk/lotr/weblogs/Feb29th2004.htm)

Guess they just weren't allocated that many seats. Looks like quite a few were in town, at least...
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: efranks on December 15, 2009, 09:53 AM
This thread is ancient...but it is good to recycle.

So anyway, I'm looking at the Golden Globe nominations this morning and I can't believe that it was so hard to find five differnent women they could nominate for best actress in a comedy or musical that they had to nominate Streep twice.

And where the hell was District 9?  One nod for screenplay?  Come on.  Is there some crappy rule that disqualified it from film and director nominations?  But Avatar, which looks to have a cookie cutter plot, does?

And why wasn't The Shield nominated for anything?  Or at least Walt Goggins for supporting honors?

I used to like the Golden Globes because they seemed to do a better job than the Academy, but I think they missed this year.

   E...
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Jim on December 15, 2009, 07:35 PM
My big problem are films getting nominations before they are even released (Avatar ???).  I was disappointed that the Shield was not nominated but the finale was so long ago and most people forgot about the show.  Come to think of it, was the finale even in '09?  I was disappointd that Breaking Bad had no nominations either. 
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: efranks on December 16, 2009, 12:30 AM
You know what?  The Shield did end in 2008.  My bad.  I looked at the date wrong.  I thought the final episodes aired after the first of the year.  Still...

I'll give you Breaking Bad.  That's something else.

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Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: DSJ™ on February 2, 2010, 10:02 AM
In Full: Oscars 2010 nominees (http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a200729/in-full-oscars-2010-nominees.html)

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Best Picture
Avatar
The Blind Side
District 9
An Education
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Precious
A Serious Man
Up
Up In The Air

Director
James Cameron (Avatar)
Kathryn Bigelow (The Hurt Locker)
Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)
Lee Daniels (Precious)
Jason Reitman (Up In The Air)

Best Actor
Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)
George Clooney (Up In The Air)
Colin Firth (A Single Man)
Morgan Freeman (Invictus)
Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker)

Best Actress
Sandra Bullock (The Blind Side)
Helen Mirren (The Last Station)
Carey Mulligan (An Education)
Gabourey Sidibe (Precious)
Meryl Streep (Julie & Julia)

Best Supporting Actor
Matt Damon (Invictus)
Woody Harrelson (The Messenger)
Christopher Plummer (The Last Station)
Stanley Tucci (The Lovely Bones)
Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress
Penelope Cruz (Nine)
Vera Farmiga (Up In The Air)
Maggie Gyllenhaal (Crazy Heart)
Anna Kendrick (Up In The Air)
Mo'Nique (Precious)

Adapted Screenplay
Neill Blomkamp, Terri Tatchell (District 9)
Nick Hornby (An Education)
Armando Iannucci, Simon Blackwell, Jesse Armstrong, Ian Martin, Tony Roche (In The Loop)
Geoffrey Fletcher (Precious)
Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner (Up In The Air)

Original Screenplay
Mark Boal (The Hurt Locker)
Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)
Alessandro Camon, Oren Moverman (The Messenger)
Ethan Coen, Joel Coen (A Serious Man)
Pete Docter, Bob Peterson, Thomas McCarthy (Up)

Animated Feature
Coraline
Fantastic Mr Fox
The Princess And The Frog
The Secret Of Kells
Up

Best Foreign Language Film
Ajami
El Secreto de Sus Ojos
The Milk Of Sorror
A Prophet
The White Ribbon

Art Direction
Avatar
The Imaginarium Of Doctor Parnassus
Nine
Sherlock Holmes
The Young Victoria

Cinematography
Avatar
Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
The White Ribbon

Costume Design
Bright Star
Coco Before Chanel
The Imaginarium Of Doctor Parnassus
Nine
The Young Victoria

Documentary Feature
Burma VJ
The Cove
Food, Inc
The Most Dangerous Man In America: Daniel Ellsberg And The Pentagon Papers
Which Way Home

Documentary Short
China's Unnatural Disaster: The Tears Of Sichuan Province
The Last Campaign Of Governor Booth Gardner
The Last Truck: Closing Of A GM Plant
Music By Prudence
Rabbit a la Berlin

Editing
Avatar
District 9
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Precious

Makeup
Il Divo
Star Trek
The Young Victoria

Original Score
James Horner (Avatar)
Alexandre Desplat (Fantastic Mr Fox)
Marco Beltrami, Buck Sanders (The Hurt Locker)
Hans Zimmer (Sherlock Holmes)
Michael Giacchino (Up)

Original Song
'Almost There' (The Princess And The Frog)
'Down In New Orleans' (The Princess And The Frog)
'Loin de Paname' (Paris 36)
'Take It All' (Nine)
'The Weary Kind' (Crazy Heart)

Sound Editing
Avatar
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Star Trek
Up

Sound Mixing
Avatar
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Star Trek
Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen

Visual Effects
Avatar
District 9
Star Trek

Animated Short
French Roast
Granny O'Grimm's Sleeping Beauty
The Lady And The Reaper
Logorama
A Matter Of Loaf And Death

Live Action Short
The Door
Instead Of Abracadabra
Kavi
Miracle Fish
The New Tenants

No science fiction film has ever won an Oscar for Best Picture. This might be interesting as 2 are running plus for the 1st time since 1943, the Oscars feature 10 best-picture contenders instead of the usual five.

Can Cameron be back on top & belt out those words... "I'm King of the ********!"
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 2, 2010, 10:08 AM
I suppose I can go find out, but why are they doing ten nominees?
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: DSJ™ on February 2, 2010, 10:26 AM
 Oscars 10: It worked  (http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/story/1722231.html)

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In recent years the Academy Awards race has become too elitist, a competition of high-falutin’ but little-seen titles that most moviegoers have barely heard of.

Expanding the roster to 10 nominees would allow a broader range of films to be considered, including some popular with general audiences. That in turn will entice more of us to tune in for the big Oscar broadcast on March 7.

82nd Academy Awards® to Feature 10 Best Picture Nominees (http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2009/20090624.html)

In other words... ratings.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Greg on February 2, 2010, 10:40 AM
I would love to see either Up, District 9, or Basterds get the Best Picture award. They were all pretty solid films. I haven't seen Blind Side or The Hurt Locker, but I've heard both were very good and look forward to seeing both when the DVDs get cheaper.

I really hope Avatar doesn't win Best Picture. It's an overhyped film with a hackneyed plot. The acting was okay, but the VFX were really the only place where it shined. I can't say I'm surprised to see it among the nominees, but there are much better films that deserve that award.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: BillCable on February 2, 2010, 10:43 AM
Man, I'd love it if Basterds won.  That's probably my top film of 2010.  I agree that Avatar doesn't deserve it.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 2, 2010, 10:54 AM
I like the idea of ten. As long as they don't put crap on there which I don't think they did.

I own every best picture winner all the way back to the beginning in 1927. I'd love to see Up or District 9 win. Those being the only two I've seen on the list. I will own Basterds one way or the other eventually.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: name on February 2, 2010, 12:33 PM
surprised to see District 9 on the list.  I was just not as impressed by this as everyone else....
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Phrubruh on February 2, 2010, 12:37 PM
I like the idea of ten. As long as they don't put crap on there which I don't think they did.

I own every best picture winner all the way back to the beginning in 1927. I'd love to see Up or District 9 win. Those being the only two I've seen on the list. I will own Basterds one way or the other eventually.

Cartoons and Sci-fi typically don't win Best Picture.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: efranks on February 2, 2010, 01:34 PM
I'm hoping Avatar doesn't win the director or film awards.  It's quite deserving of the technical type awards but the plot and acting doesn't take it to the level of best picture.

District 9 and Hurt Locker are my two favorites from this list.  I really think Hurt Locker was the best film I saw in 2009, just barely beating District 9.

   E...
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: ruiner on February 2, 2010, 02:00 PM
surprised to see District 9 on the list.  I was just not as impressed by this as everyone else....

Yeah, probably would've been better if there wasn't so much hype.  Hurt Locker was impressive, as was Basterds.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 2, 2010, 02:57 PM
I like the idea of ten. As long as they don't put crap on there which I don't think they did.

I own every best picture winner all the way back to the beginning in 1927. I'd love to see Up or District 9 win. Those being the only two I've seen on the list. I will own Basterds one way or the other eventually.

Cartoons and Sci-fi typically don't win Best Picture.

I'm sure they won't win, but it's a start if they make the list. And more importantly they are deserving and made the list.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Nicklab on February 2, 2010, 07:16 PM
I saw Crazy Heart over the weekend.  Not sure if it's going to get a Best Picture nod, but it is one hell of a good movie.  And Jeff Bridges sure as hell better be nominated and win the Oscar for Best Actor.  His performance was simply amazing.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Rob on February 2, 2010, 07:29 PM
I saw Crazy Heart over the weekend.  Not sure if it's going to get a Best Picture nod, but it is one hell of a good movie.  And Jeff Bridges sure as hell better be nominated and win the Oscar for Best Actor.  His performance was simply amazing.

Nominations were announced this morning.  It didn't get one.

And there are now 10 best picture nominees... which is bull****.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 2, 2010, 08:35 PM
I think The Blind Side shoudl win.

District 9 or Up ere awesome movies and wouldn't mind seeing them win.

Inglorious Basterds was good...but best picture?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 3, 2010, 01:39 PM
Just wanted to throw some Documentary love in here. "Food, Inc." was fascinating (yes biased, but interesting non the less). And "The Cove" looks very good too.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Diddly on February 3, 2010, 05:14 PM
Razzie Award Nominees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30th_Golden_Raspberry_Awards), from Wikipedia because for some reason I couldn't see the entire list on the Razzie website.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Rob on February 3, 2010, 06:00 PM
I think The Blind Side shoudl win.

District 9 or Up ere awesome movies and wouldn't mind seeing them win.

Inglorious Basterds was good...but best picture?  I don't think so.

If you haven't seen Hurt Locker yet, do so immediately.  That's my favorite out of the bunch, I think it deserves best picture.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 4, 2010, 12:34 AM
I saw The Hurt Locker and thought it was great...but the Blind Side was better IMO.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 8, 2010, 09:31 AM
Overall I thought it was a good show.

Of course it was too long. After it only ran from 7 to 10 last year I thought maybe they had turned a corner, but starting at 730 was weird and then having it be more than three hours was a bit much.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Scott on March 8, 2010, 09:49 AM
They really need to cut the other actors talking about the nominees right before the Best Actor/Actress awards.  That is terrible and huge waste of time
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 8, 2010, 10:03 AM
They really need to cut the other actors talking about the nominees right before the Best Actor/Actress awards.  That is terrible and huge waste of time

I'm a huge movie fan and blah blah blah, but no kidding. They are just actors. Let's not get too carried away about how meaningful these people are to the world.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Chris M on March 8, 2010, 10:11 AM
They really need to cut the other actors talking about the nominees right before the Best Actor/Actress awards.  That is terrible and huge waste of time

Not to mention Hollywood is the master of "look how good we are" and all that fanfare. 

I didn't watch much of it...I can't stand award shows.  Saving Private Ryan was on and my daughter was being fussy and I had Masters work to do, so there was so much more I really needed to focus on.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Phrubruh on March 8, 2010, 10:26 AM
This time around it was pretty obvious who would win best picture. Before the announcement, they put the camera on the "Hurt Locker / Avatar" group to the left of the stage. Since actors are the ones that vote for Oscars, no actor is going to pick a movie that is mostly animated. They are going to pick something that has actors in. Its even better if it has a political statement attached. Movies that do well in the box office typically do not win best picture.

Personally, the thing I like about the Academy Awards is the historical  and behind the scenes pieces they show. If they cut the acceptance speeches out, the show would be fairly entertaining. Of course, that is what tivo is for.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Rob on March 8, 2010, 11:32 AM
Its even better if it has a political statement attached.

Not sure that holds up... Avatar was hideously preachy and riddled with political statements.

Hurt Locker, despite being a war film, was decidedly apolitical.

I think Avatar didn't win because it simply wasn't best picture material.  If there was a category for best blockbuster, or best spectacle, it would win hands down...
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: BillCable on March 8, 2010, 12:45 PM
I agree Avatar simply wasn't up to snuff as far as Best Pictures go.

One thing I found odd... they claimed during the "Horror" homage that no horror film had been honored since The Exorcist.  Did they forget Silence of the Lambs?  Maybe they thought Silence was more of a drama...

No wait - they had Silence in the horror film montage!

Just sloppy.

Also, the intros for best actor/actress were absolutely awful.  They were creepy... almost made my skin crawl.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: JediJman on March 8, 2010, 01:26 PM
This time around it was pretty obvious who would win best picture. Before the announcement, they put the camera on the "Hurt Locker / Avatar" group to the left of the stage. Since actors are the ones that vote for Oscars, no actor is going to pick a movie that is mostly animated. They are going to pick something that has actors in. Its even better if it has a political statement attached. Movies that do well in the box office typically do not win best picture.

That's why I don't pay attention to award shows anymore.  Each movie is not given an equal chance and there's obvious reasons for bias in the voting.  Seems like a Horror/Action/Sci-Fi movie is discredited just because of it's genre.  If the awards aren't going to pay attention to movies that matter to the ticket-buyers, then why should the ticket-buyers pay any attention to the awards shows?  Don't get me wrong, I thought the Hurt Locker was an excellent movie and was very happy to see it get nominated, but it's not ground breaking and visually stunning in the way that Avatar is. 
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: DSJ™ on March 8, 2010, 01:54 PM
The Academy went down the ******* in 82 when Gandhi won for best costume design... ******* bed sheets!  ::)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 8, 2010, 02:07 PM
I'll take movies winning that no one saw over the "Academy Awards" turning into the Grammys. If you want that then most of the other movie awards are for you (which I realize is partly what you are saying).
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: JediJman on March 8, 2010, 05:08 PM
I'll take movies winning that no one saw over the "Academy Awards" turning into the Grammys. If you want that then most of the other movie awards are for you (which I realize is partly what you are saying).

I'm not saying it has to go to whoever sold the most tickets, but why not remove all the bias and judge simply on the dimensions of the film itself.  I guess there is some risk that whichever movie sells the most tickets also ends up getting the award, but selling a boatload of tickets is generally an early indicator that the movie is pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Phrubruh on March 8, 2010, 05:29 PM
I'll take movies winning that no one saw over the "Academy Awards" turning into the Grammys. If you want that then most of the other movie awards are for you (which I realize is partly what you are saying).

I'm not saying it has to go to whoever sold the most tickets, but why not remove all the bias and judge simply on the dimensions of the film itself.  I guess there is some risk that whichever movie sells the most tickets also ends up getting the award, but selling a boatload of tickets is generally an early indicator that the movie is pretty good. 

I don't know about that. Transformers 2 sold lots of tickets and was an awful movie.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: I Am Sith on March 8, 2010, 08:37 PM
I've gotten sick of the entire, 'look how great we are' vibe these award shows put out.  Considering this is one of the only professions in the world that has more than one (if any at all) award ceremony every year, they should be a tad bit more humble about it.  My wife won't even watch the ceremonies any more.  She actually was getting mad during the 'Best Actor' monologues given by the other actors.  It got to the point where she left the room before they delivered the last one.

The main highlight for me yesterday was having Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin as the hosts.  I thought that they did a really good job.  And I'm sure that the Ben Stiller 'spoof' would have gone over much better had Sacha Baron Cohen been there with him, but it was pretty bad with just him doing it...

I was really happy to see that Christoph Waltz won the 'Best Supporting Actor' award for Inglorious Basterds.  He had a great performance in that movie.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: P-Siddy on March 8, 2010, 10:30 PM
Sometimes I think they should have more catagories, like Best Drama, Comedy, Action, Sci-Fi. Dilutes the awards a bit, but really, Up was up for Best Picture and Best Animated... so if they can do a best animated catagory, then I think they can open it up a bit more.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: JediJman on March 8, 2010, 10:40 PM
I'll take movies winning that no one saw over the "Academy Awards" turning into the Grammys. If you want that then most of the other movie awards are for you (which I realize is partly what you are saying).

I'm not saying it has to go to whoever sold the most tickets, but why not remove all the bias and judge simply on the dimensions of the film itself.  I guess there is some risk that whichever movie sells the most tickets also ends up getting the award, but selling a boatload of tickets is generally an early indicator that the movie is pretty good. 

I don't know about that. Transformers 2 sold lots of tickets and was an awful movie.

Note the italics around generally. That was specifically put there with TF2 in mind.   ;)
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Darth Broem on March 9, 2010, 12:25 AM
I saw where Farrah Fawcett was not in the "in memoriam" or whatever that segment is called where they honore who died during the year.  Very off but yet Michael Jackson was? 
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2010, 01:43 AM
"He made Thriller...  Thriller."

-Dave Chappelle
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 9, 2010, 07:57 AM
I'll take movies winning that no one saw over the "Academy Awards" turning into the Grammys. If you want that then most of the other movie awards are for you (which I realize is partly what you are saying).

I'm not saying it has to go to whoever sold the most tickets, but why not remove all the bias and judge simply on the dimensions of the film itself.  I guess there is some risk that whichever movie sells the most tickets also ends up getting the award, but selling a boatload of tickets is generally an early indicator that the movie is pretty good.  

Because it will never happen.  ;) And wow do I not agree with you "boatload of tickets generally" means it's good theory.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 9, 2010, 08:24 AM
Sometimes I think they should have more catagories, like Best Drama, Comedy, Action, Sci-Fi. Dilutes the awards a bit, but really, Up was up for Best Picture and Best Animated... so if they can do a best animated catagory, then I think they can open it up a bit more.

I don't like that either because, like you said, it dilutes it way too much. I don't think any award show will ever be perfect, but I think the Oscars are as close as it gets. With that being said, I'm a huge movie buff. I love movies from the 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. So I think I may be biased myself the opposite direction if that makes sense.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Paul on March 9, 2010, 09:17 AM
I am more in the camp of if it sells a certain amount of tickets then it is "popular" but not necessarily "good", but I also don't feel that JUST because the ticket buyers like it means it is too "commercial" to deserve Oscar recognition.

Has anybody ever put together the numbers to see how previous Oscar Nominees (and winners) have done in the Box Office (prior to their re-release after their nomination)?

I wonder if back during the Golden Age of Cinema if Ticket Sales and Awards were more in line with one another.

I just dislike the arrogance of most Movie Critics and insiders who feel that WE the ticket buying public are not sophisticated enough to understand why Movie A is so much better than Movie B...  

But then again, I just watched the Winter Olympics and avoided any event that involved a "judge" or had a subjective scoring system. Either you made it across the finish line first, scored the most points or some other objective standard.  

I think I saw 2 of the 10 Nominees this year. Mostly because I really don't need to go to the Movies to get preached at or to intentionally be depressed.  I have the office for latter.


As far as the Oscar Presentation goes though...

Did they go back to "The Winner is...."? OR was it some other show that did away "Winners and losers"?
I recorded it on DVR for my wife and didn't think to add extra minutes since they play music and make people get off stage (even the White Kanye)...so she missed the last 4 (you know the BIG ones)....
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 9, 2010, 09:23 AM
The "I'm a movie critic and I'm smarter than you moron viewers" is very annoying.

However, I seldomly see a Best Picture winner and think "that wasn't good". I had no want to see Slumdog Millionaire last year. Then I saw it and it was excellent. And this year, no matter how much people say Avatar was good, it does nothing for me. I still have't seen it.

And I am just naming stuff off the top of my head, but as far as box office success winning recentlyish: Return of the King, Forrest Gump, Titanic. I'm drawing a blank now, but it isn't like they poo poo everything popular to look "smarter" than us.
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: Phrubruh on March 9, 2010, 01:44 PM
Return of the King and Forrest Gump I can agree with. I think ROTK was more for the entire trilogy then the movie itself. Gump was just a lot of fun.

However, I still don't understand the popularity of Titanic. That movie was about an hour too long and the story was worst than Avatar's. It had too much running up and down the dam ship with very poor acting. Why did they have to film the thing sinking in real time?! Gosh, I hate that movie!
Title: Re: The Academy Awards (and Golden Globes)
Post by: name on March 19, 2010, 12:07 PM
I redboxed Where the Wild Things are last night, and while the movie itself was...different than expected (I still liked it though) I cannot understand HOW this did not get ANY nominations.  Art direction?  Cinematography?  Effects?  Costumes?  The whole experience was gorgeous to look at. Original score? Even the acting...Jame Gandolfini's voice acting was phenomenal, and Max as a child actor who actually acts like a child?