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Title: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scott on November 17, 2010, 05:03 PM
From scum...

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Rumor_Report_The_Vintage_Collection_134998.asp

Wave 6

Luke Skywalker
Clone Trooper
AT-RT Driver
General Lando
Weequay Skiff Master
Fi Ek Sirch

Wave 7

Bespin Han Solo
Barris Offee
Rebel Blockade Trooper
Logray
Fordo
Bom Vimdin

Wave 8

Kithaba
Dr Evazan
Aayla Secura
Nom Anor
501st Clone Trooper
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 17, 2010, 05:20 PM
I love how they basically say that these are a ways out, and the list could change. Nice disclaimer.

I like the addition of General Lando, Bespin Han, Barris Offee, Rebel Blockade Trooper (breath, Jesse, breathe!), Aayla Secura and Dr Evazan...I'm hoping these are actually coming.

Google tells me that "Nom Anor" is another ******* Yuzhan Vong...retarded.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 17, 2010, 05:25 PM
Without seeing these, I could say that I am down for all of them except the clones and "Luke Skywalker" - I would have to see them to know for sure what we are talking about.

Good list.   ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on November 17, 2010, 05:27 PM
Not really anything on there that hasn't been confirmed via Q&A except Logray, the Nikto Jedi and the clones which were inevitable
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2010, 05:47 PM
- I love the fact that we basically had to beg Hasbro to get a plain old basic Stormtrooper back into the line, and then at the same time Waves 2, 5, 6?, and 8? may all have Clone Troopers.

- I'm hoping Luke is Hoth or Dagobah... but fearing he's yet another permutation of the Jabba/Jedi black outfit Luke.

- AT-RT Driver? Really?  Was anyone wanting more of these?

- Really looking forward to Bespin Han, Bom, Evazan, and RFT.  :)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2010, 05:52 PM
A nice list, but I always take those RS lists with a grain of salt anymore.  Like Scott said though, the majority of what is there has been confirmed by Q and A's already, and if this is accurate, it looks like some nice lineups.  If I am remembering correctly, the interview with Derryl DePriest on the TFN podcast said that we should see Wave 5 (which has already been revealed) along with the next wave before having a bit of a gap again like we have in previous years.  That would likely mean the wave with Bespin Han on that list would kick off the Fall then possibly.  I'm curious about the Luke Skywalker on that list, if that is a new version, or the recarded one (currently shipping in the ROTJ wave) that they have mentioned with a new cardback or nameplate (I can't remember which now).

Other than that, a nice list.  I was sort of hoping for a Skiff Lando re-do, but the General version is welcome as well.  I have to admit, I'm losing interest in a lot of the clones at this point.  Many (or all) could just be recarded figures, but I'm pretty happy with the versions we have for the most part.  Also, like Jeff mentioned, it is hard to understand how it is so difficult to get the regular old Stormtrooper in the line these days.  I know we've got one coming in Wave 5, but as mentioned we see Clones all the time...and I think we've even seen the Snowtroopers and Biker Scouts more often.  It just seems like a nice "ultimate" Stormtrooper should be available nearly all the time, it is sort of the ultimate army builder to me (at least for OT fans).
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 17, 2010, 06:55 PM
I'm lookinf forward to the Bespin Han and Nom Anor.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2010, 07:51 PM
And I've been hinting at the RFT coming in 2011 for a while on here...  I was told this at Toy Fair by the Grand Poobah.  So that one's been out there a while too, with Hasbro confirming they're doing it.  Just a matter of when it was coming out. :)

I've been excited for most of the list there since it was confirmed at various points. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on November 17, 2010, 08:22 PM
So will the Clone Troopers have pre-yellowed helmets like the current plain white one?

Ask that in the Q&A.

Skiff Master Weequay, Kithaba and Bom Vimdin are the highlight of all those. I have a feeling they'll screw up Rebel Fleet Trooper. 3rd Strike is a charm. Watch him be an inch taller than the tallest stormtrooper.

I find some Jedi redos irritating, since some they could've gotten right the first or second time (Aayla). Triple dipping...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2010, 08:29 PM
Are you going back to 2002 with that, or no?  I didn't mind the ROTS figure of Aayla, actually, but I kind of don't count half the 2002/2003 bull**** figures we got...  So with that in mind, Aayla is kind of the ideal figure to make the, "minor tweaks" thread...

New arms are enough for me to rebuy her.  If they add other stuff like ball-jointed hips (difficult though, no her small frame and tight outfit I think), it's really going to be gravy if it's done right.  Just new super articulated arms would've sufficed for me though, like Shaak Ti got. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 17, 2010, 10:40 PM
I love how they basically say that these are a ways out, and the list could change. Nice disclaimer.

Agreed.

Where is Ponda? He was confirmed by Hasbro as well as Bastilla Shan. Didn't Hasbro also confirm the next Lando is the Skiff one?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2010, 10:55 PM
I figured Ponda with Evazan...  How do you break them up?  It's like Abbot without Costello.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darby on November 17, 2010, 10:58 PM
A LOT of good, some meh (I agree re: the troopers) but overall it's also a lot of what've seen to this point.

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 18, 2010, 12:37 AM
It just occurred to me that the mixed wave are actually a good thing for my wallet since I'm not doing prequel figures carded. Less I'll want to buy each wave. No real surprises with the list, though.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on November 18, 2010, 09:14 AM
This is a cool list, and I'm happy to see a few on there that are TOTALLY NEW.

Ed, I had to look up the Vong guy too, but here's the thing.  If you look at some of the comic images, they look too over the top, too corny, and to me, very un SW.  However, there is one image which is a little more subtle, and less goofy.  If they use that as the guide, it could be a nice figure.  More like Tion Medden, less like Skeletor.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on November 18, 2010, 04:05 PM
Are you going back to 2002 with that, or no? 

Yes and no. No they wouldn't have been super articulated in 2002 of course. But back then they made some figures like the previously unnamed Nikto Jedi, that were little more than statues, even compared to Episode 1 releases. That stuff turned me off Star Wars for a while.

In terms of ROTS, they could've gone further and we wouldn't have needed Agen Kolar and Plo Koon again. And IIRC, we don't have a fully SA Ki-Adi Mundi, just a SA concept one (and maybe that comic pack one, I'm not sure).

I admit, I'd probably get Aayla again if she had better arms. Mine has a loose knee anyway. And I missed the Clone Wars version (saw it once with bad paint ops and then never again).

Complaining about character repetition in Star Wars toys is pointless. I admit that.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Keonobi on November 18, 2010, 04:31 PM
I'm excited about the Rebel Fleet Trooper.  Glad that my Stormies will have some more Rebels to fight with.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 18, 2010, 04:37 PM
I really need a Rebel fleet Trooper, I got rid of all of my old ones and currently own none. I like the list (if it's true) for the exception of the clones and Nom Amore'.

I am so done with Clones.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2010, 05:17 PM
This whole thing is a joke to screw with Jesse.

We all know there's no Rebel Fleet Trooper coming.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2010, 08:05 PM
Or, like was said, it'll have something wrong with it.  My guess is the vest will now not be removable. :)

Scockery, I agree completely...  I almost write off those two years of collecting like they didn't exist.  Very little came out in those years that is of any quality.  I recall people loved to pile-on that they were great, and anyone complaining needed to quit the hobby, blah blah blah...  But I still maintain those years as some of the worst int he hobby.  The line was tanking horribly, it led to a lot of positive changes, but the growing pains sucked.

ROTS put out Jedi pretty great, but that of course leads to the "what minor tweaks..." concept...  Minor tweaks are the future now I think.  At least for a lot of the line anyway.

But then stuff like Ackbar comes up, and do you care about ankles?  I'd rather have his chair,a ctually.  I'd rebuy him for that, but ankles, so long as the feet are sculpted simply flat/forward-facing, I'm never that dire on seeing the articulation.  Basically every other point of articulation becomes more important (unless of course it's like the training Clone, which is a decent figure till you get to those friggin' posed-sculpted-ankles...  which gives me an idea for a post).
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on November 19, 2010, 10:29 AM
I mainly want to know what the Luke is going to be.  I'm hoping for a Hoth or Dagobah version.  I doubt they put another Tatooine version since it looks almost exactly like a DS escape version.  Watch it will just be a re-carded Jedi Luke.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 19, 2010, 12:06 PM
I think it will be Dagaobah Luke built of of the Bespin one. Something like this:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TANU1UtGTjQ/TFbc4chJtFI/AAAAAAAAA_E/_DHQ2zOXBhY/s1600/DELUXEESBLUKE2.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on November 19, 2010, 08:49 PM
I think the next Luke (after the ANH one) is the other ROTJ figure that Hasbro say was coming next year, most likely a Endor Poncho version. (I would like it to be the Hoth version)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 22, 2010, 12:14 AM
A nod to Adam over at GH for the image, but it looks like the Bespin Han was originally supposed to be in comic pack form:

(http://www.galactichunter.com/image_bank/misc/eecomic-7825.jpg)

My guess is that he made it into TVC with the, most likely, scrapping of the comic pack.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 22, 2010, 01:04 AM
According to Hasbro the upcoming Han Bespin is all new tooling including the body. DD confirmed that they are not using the barrel chested body for him. It was further confirmed in a Podcast I believe. Of course they say a lot of things but I do not thing the will use this inaccurate version. The jacket is the Endor vest colored blue. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 22, 2010, 01:32 AM
I hope that Bespin Han isn't from the CP image we saw.

But, wow, what a list!

I'm looking forward most to the Rebel Trooper, Aayla (judging by the drawn pictures we saw at SDCC, it should be a great figure), and I wonder what outfit this Luke will have. Hasbro's already (re-)done each of his outfits from all the movies, no? Except for the Dagobah one.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2010, 02:04 AM
I could easily do without that comic pack by the way...  I'd want an all-new Bespin Han over that figure.  If it turns out that it's that, that's an "epic fail", as the kids call it these days.

And I'll live without the good spirit version of Luke in his snowspeeder uniform too. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: EpicGon on November 28, 2010, 06:50 PM
This white snowspeeder outfil Luke should be released as a running change for the tlc snowspeeder Luke, but in orange jumpsuit. Perhaps it is due to the fact, Hasbro is testing heads for the definite versions of esb Lukes.

The Han of the comic pack, looks as a kitbash, very predictable. The figure still shows very thin limbs.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 29, 2010, 12:43 AM
Perhaps it is due to the fact, Hasbro is testing heads for the definite versions of esb Lukes.

Hasbro seemed to nail the ESB headsculpt on the TVC Bespin Luke. The CP Luke shown above, though, has too bright blonde hair, but the head sculpt seems alright. Not as good as the TVC release, though.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on December 3, 2010, 04:48 PM
Sounds like the new Toy Fair this month has pics of Bom Vimdin, Rebel Trooper, Weequay Skiff Master, and a prototype Dr. Evazan...  our first look at part of Wave 6?

Anyone have a scan to share?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on December 3, 2010, 09:56 PM
Mine didn't come in the mail today :-[
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on December 3, 2010, 11:28 PM
Photos from Rebelscum forumite Bantha5:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/12-10/135-3553_IMG_3.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/12-10/135-3554_IMG_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Greg on December 3, 2010, 11:45 PM
A... good... rebel... fleet.... trooper?!?!? *gasp* Such a thing cannot truly exist!  :P

I'm looking forward to all of the figures, and will DEFINITELY be army building the Rebel Trooper. The Rebel doesn't look too much like the Scrambos, which is exactly what I was hoping for. Bom looks badass, especially with that cool looking rifle. Also, is Barriss from the cartoon series? I know the picture is from the cartoon, but the figure doesn't look animated.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on December 3, 2010, 11:45 PM
Jesse, please tell me this RFT puts a smile on your face...  :)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on December 4, 2010, 01:21 AM
Bom looks good, see he has the obligatory holster.

Weequay I'll hold judgement on until final product.

Rebel Trooper, I fear, as others do, he'll be too tall. *crosses fingers*

Barriss Offee looks okay. This is her first action figure. Yes, something was released years ago, but I'm pretty sure it was a 3 3/4" statue.

Evazan might turn out well...heck, couldn't be worse than the old version.

Bastilla Shan...no idea who that is...reserve judgement on...even though no EU character should be made before Mosep. Or Solomahal for that matter. It's okay if they release Ms. Shan before Reegesk and Tzizvvt, but one them should be in the wave immediately after her.

VIVA MIXED WAVES, btw. No a Solo or Kenobi or Skywalker in sight. (I'm daydreaming, they'll appear! EN MASSE.)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 4, 2010, 02:02 AM
Is it me, or does that Weequay Skiff Master look overly bulky? Is that supposed to be a part of his design?

Although it's too early to tell so far, Bastilla looks great so far. There's a lot of movement sculpted into the robes, which is a good sign that Hasbro's at least trying to deliver a good sculpt for a Fan's Choice figure.

Rebel fleet trooper... awesome! That's all I can say...

Would have liked Aayla Secura in place of Bariss, but it's also a good sculpt. Her cape looks a tad bulky, probably because of the material, but it's alright, I guess. To answer someone's question above, no, it's not based on her animated appearance, but on her Ep.II appearance.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 4, 2010, 02:45 AM
I'm kind of tied up this weekend, but once I see that the helmet's removable, the holster functions and holds the blaster nicely, that the holster actually connects to the belt, that he isn't goony tall, and that the finer details are all nice and done well, then sure I'll say he's good enough.

As of right now though, I like the articulation, the colors look good, the sculpt looks nice and crisp/up-to-date.

The rest remains to be seen (for sure).  After 11 years, i'm hardly going to jump for joy at simply a photo.  ;D

Right now, if I have a complaint, it's that the vest is now molded-on and non-removable.  Hasbro's gotten away from removable vests and it sucks a bit.  I could be wrong again, photo's tough to say, but I'm guessing it's all one piece.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on December 4, 2010, 09:09 AM
Would have liked Aayla Secura in place of Bariss, but it's also a good sculpt. Her cape looks a tad bulky, probably because of the material, but it's alright, I guess. To answer someone's question above, no, it's not based on her animated appearance, but on her Ep.II appearance.

Sure is confusing based on their picture choice...WTF?

I don't recall that outfit but I probably blinked and missed it.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on December 4, 2010, 09:31 AM
WOW!  Now that's what I want to see!  NEW OT figures.  See?  It's not hard to put a smile on my face.

These look really nice.  Weequay is a bit bulky, but after the mazing Wooof, I trust this will look slightly better in person.  I think that the rebel's vest is sculpted on so that his collar can go over the vest, which makes sense to me.

Ezavan looks prefect.  The gut, the crooked belt, the shirt hanging below the belt.  Perfect.  Thes are going to be amazing on the cards!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM
I see in the article that Tarkin, Dash Rendar and Guri are on their wishlist to do next from the poll.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: 501ST on December 4, 2010, 10:50 AM
Rebel Fleet Trooper looks like it could finally defeat that deal done by Hasbro with Satan.

The others mean nothing to me but look well sculpted.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 4, 2010, 10:55 AM
After an unexciting wave 4 and a blah wave 5, I'm excited again. Can't wait for better pictures of the RFT, but it looks very promising.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 4, 2010, 11:06 AM

Bastilla Shan...no idea who that is...reserve judgement on...even though no EU character should be made before Mosep. Or Solomahal for that matter. It's okay if they release Ms. Shan before Reegesk and Tzizvvt, but one them should be in the wave immediately after her.


Bastilla Shan is one of the main characters from the Knights of the Old Republic game.  I'm really looking forward to that figure!

The RFT looks like it has swivel elbows a opposed to ball and socket.  To me that is unacceptable, I hope the picture isn't showing the elbows correctly.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on December 4, 2010, 11:20 AM
I think it is just the angle of the photo. I can't imagine that in this day and age that they'd produce a new figure with those angle cut elbows.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on December 4, 2010, 11:49 AM
The magazine sort of twists right where his elbow is, which will skew the image.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Diddly on December 4, 2010, 02:43 PM
Heh, I legit yelled out "swivel elbows wtf!" when I saw the RFT.

Given Hasbro's obsession with Rebels having facial hair, how much would it suck to get a last minute RFT head change with a goatee?

All of the figures seem a tad... off though. I guess that's what happens when magazines enlarge pics though. Evazan appears to not have articulated knees or ankles, and that's not good. Hopefully that's just because it's the prototype.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on December 4, 2010, 03:14 PM
Looks like cut elbow and shouder joints to me but hope I'm wrong. Ball joint knees though. Hope this is a good figure, never had one so want to get a few.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 4, 2010, 04:24 PM
These are paint masters ans waxes so I would not worry about the final outcome, the same was said on the ROTJ wave. In terms of articulation just look at the ortho specs Bastialla nd the Dr. have ankle and knee joint articulation. It's work in progress.

I am very excited about all of these figures. It's so nice that so much that needed to be redone is quickly getting taking care off. I was just looking over my collection and really like the fact there is next to nothing left from POTJ down.

Seriously what is up with Hasbro and all of the Rebel beardos? I would have bought so many more Endor Troopers is they were plain clean shaven dudes.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 4, 2010, 05:47 PM
No one loves goatees more than Hasbro.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on December 4, 2010, 05:58 PM
Goatees courtesy of Dave Vennemeyer
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Paul on December 4, 2010, 06:09 PM
No doubt.  I think it is a way to make me less pissy about every Imperial Soldier being a Jango Clone.

And we now have 2 Endor Rebels with Bald Heads and Facial hair.  I could do without anymore Rebels with Facial Hair for a while. 

I also hope the RFT does not have the Lurched forward neck that the Endor Reb has.  Makes head swapping a bit difficulti.

All in all though, I like that RFT. He has the correct boots, a good start.

Those are fully articulated elbows. They are just sculpted different than we have seen. I can't remember but a recent figure has the same look.  I'll track it down and post it here.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 4, 2010, 07:19 PM
Yeah, I'm 90% sure the elbows are ball/socket joints, they're just odd looking because of the photo in the rag I believe.

As far as the collar and vest, RFT vests are like Han's in that they don't really hide the collar anyway (they were called European Cut Vests or something like that?).  So I still say a sculpted-on vest is a step backwards on the figure and a negative, if it turns out that way.  It's almost impossible to tell by the photo.  So far, it's the only major negative I can see and everything else is looking good, if it is...  I doubt it stops me from buying this figure in any quantity though, if everything else holds up.

I can't wait to make a pile into ground combat guys and things.  Good times ahead methinks.

Like JACK said, these are hand-painted prototypes, not production figures, and I expect all of them to change.  These figures sometimes have joints that have gaps and such.  I expect some things to look better and some to look worse on production images.

And clump myself into the, "I hate beards" category on troopers, at this stage.  Almost everyone has a stache, goatee, or beard, and Hasbro needs to stop with that stuff for a while.

Bom Vimdin is sweet...  Love that freak.  He's my last real wish for Cantina aliens.  At this point Garrouf Lafoe is my #1 Cantina want.

If the Fleet Trooper is a home run, then my #1 overall want is a tough choice at this point.  I've spent 20+ years wishing Hasbro would do a decent Fleet Trooper...  I'm expecting this one to be just that.  You never know when you're getting dealt a "30AC Death Star Trooper" type situation though.  It's kinda cool, but has lots of glaring flaws as well.

Oh, and the Pens just scored.  Go Pens. :)  Oh, and scored again.  Go Pens again.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on December 5, 2010, 08:58 AM
Fantastic! Now that's a wave. Three never before released characters, and three desperatley needed resculpts, one being a highly requested troop builder. Pretty happy with the lot of them.

Bastila-Whoo, being that i'm a huge KOTOR fan this is really nice to see, though somwhat bittersweet as she'll be lonely on the shelf without the rest of the Ebon Hawk crew.

Barris Offee - Looks cool, more arena jedi are always welcome.

Weequay Skiff Master - Kinda pofy looking, but I like it. Another unique weequay for the palace never hurt.

Dr. Evazan - Wow, finally, an Evazan that actually looks good! Can't wait to see this guy all painted up.

Rebel Fleet Trooper - Well there we go, he looks like he should please many people. Here's hoping Hasbro cranks out a whole bunch of these guys with new heads, maybe a future battle pack or somthing.

Bom Vimdin - Whoo! My most highly requested figure since they released Hem Dazon and he's every bit as great as I'd hoped. Now that Bom is coming I need to find a new cantina alien to champion for.

Really excited for this wave, can't wait!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on December 5, 2010, 01:40 PM
Now that's a wave.
This isn't a wave. They are just showing all the figures that were in the Fan's Choice Poll that we are getting next year.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on December 5, 2010, 06:16 PM

Bom Vimdin - Whoo! My most highly requested figure since they released Hem Dazon and he's every bit as great as I'd hoped. Now that Bom is coming I need to find a new cantina alien to champion for.


I think that Mosep, the walrusy looking dude in the red imperial like outfit should be next.  This is also the guy that was used as Jabba by Marvel.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 5, 2010, 07:59 PM
Now that's a wave.
This isn't a wave. They are just showing all the figures that were in the Fan's Choice Poll that we are getting next year.

Well, it does say that with the exception of Bastilla - the rest of the figures are coming this spring, so it is possible that they are all the figures in the second mixed-movie wave.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on December 6, 2010, 11:44 AM
Now that's a wave.
This isn't a wave. They are just showing all the figures that were in the Fan's Choice Poll that we are getting next year.
Well, it does say that with the exception of Bastilla - the rest of the figures are coming this spring, so it is possible that they are all the figures in the second mixed-movie wave.
It's possible but according to the latest rumor (the first post in this thread) the Weequay will be in wave 6 and the others in wave 7.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: EpicGon on December 6, 2010, 02:51 PM
I like the way weequay skiff guy and rebel fleet trooper are depicted. For rebel fleet trooper it looks at last we will have a version which can handle the blaster with both hands.

Bastilla is great, cool evolution for a female body! I am not sure if she has knee joints, it seems they are only at elbow level. But if so, her legs are built the most naturally possible for the current action figures` technology.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Siths Herald on December 7, 2010, 09:26 AM
I realize these are prototype images yet.  But... is it just me, or does it look like they just used Indiana Jones legs & feet for the Weequay?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on December 7, 2010, 01:34 PM
I realize these are prototype images yet.  But... is it just me, or does it look like they just used Indiana Jones legs & feet for the Weequay?

Those legs do look familiar.  They're not any IJ figures that I can see.  Many of the have more wrinkles on the legs.  From a quick glance at my figures though, they look like the Rebel Ceremonial Guard's legs.

Or maybe a Lando?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2010, 02:08 PM
I take apart at least one of each figure for customs and pay pretty close attention to parts, and while they do look similar to that Rebel and Lando, I think the legs are new... could be wrong of course because they do look really similar to the Rebel Honor Guard.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 7, 2010, 02:51 PM
I take apart at least one of each figure for customs and pay pretty close attention to parts, and while they do look similar to that Rebel and Lando, I think the legs are new... could be wrong of course because they do look really similar to the Rebel Honor Guard.

These legs are all new. Chewie is correct, I just tore apart a Rebel honor guard and Lando. You can clearly see this will be all new tooling. The only thing that looks reused is the Vibroaxe, Lightsaber and the Fleet Trooper gun.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2010, 05:42 PM
I finally got my issue of Toyfare and can say with 100% certainty that the RFT has ball jointed elbows :-*
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2010, 06:55 PM
Can you do a good scan of it Scott?  If anyone even has scanners any longer (I do, but I'm not even sure mine works).
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2010, 07:28 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/rft blow up.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2010, 07:34 PM
Sweet, thanks Scott.

I'm wondering if that isn't a new Fleet Trooper pistol as well.  Something looks different.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2010, 07:42 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/bom.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/weequay skiff.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/barriss.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/evazan.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/shan.jpg)



Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2010, 07:53 PM
Nice pics Scott, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2010, 09:21 PM
A thought...

Is the Fleet Trooper's helmet possibly articulated at the visor?  I'm wondering if it clips down and up?  It looks separate at the visor portion now that I see this better scan.

The more I look at the vest, the less I believe it's removable.  The collar area makes me think it might be though, and I still hope it is.

Something about the tip of his blaster pistol really looks different from the current sculpt...  I'd love to see more of this figure.

On Bom Vimdin, his thigh-strap on his holster seems to be either broken, or like it clips to the thigh and unclips if you want it to.  This freak was my most wanted Cantina alien, so seeing him get done is great.  I love the species, the weirdness of it...  That he comes with a rifle accessory is cool too.  Kind of reminds me of POTF2 when figures almost always sported two accessories, even if one was completely goofy and unnecessary.

The more I look at the Weequay Skiff Master, the more I think he'd look less "poofy" if his arms were at his side like the reference pic of him below.  I think that's going to be an outstanding figure as well.  He always makes wishlists, and he's made the JD wishlist often, as has Bom Vimdin and the Fleet Trooper.

I like Barriss Offee a lot...  I heard some folks weren't happy, but to me she's great, and a much-needed AOTC resculpt.  Besides Pablo Jill, Hasbro has done all the Arena Jedi over again pretty much...  Unless you count the Twi Lek and Human from the 3-pack...  Oh, and the two Nikto I guess count as well, I almost forgot them.  I'd really like them redone, then maybe the Twi Lek and Human would be nice since they did go to the Rodian recently, and give us a cool one of that character too.

I can't wait for Dr. E. as well...  Bastilla's cool, but I've had a "redone" Dr. E. on my shelf for years, since his POTF2 figure came out, and I wanted to fix his goofy stance.  Hasbro even got his less than flattering physique down pretty good too.

I wonder if they'll be able to do the deco of his leather vest right though?  The POTF2 figure's vest had a marbled look to the plastic, which was neat.  I hope they're able to do something similar on the resculpt.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2010, 11:02 PM
One of those Nikto Jedi (Fi-Ek Sirch) is coming out next year

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2010, 11:27 PM
Yes, didn't Hasbro confirm him last Q&A somewhere?  A good figure, and an easy repaint to the other Nikto Jedi if they choose to go that route.  I'd take both anyway.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 7, 2010, 11:34 PM
Glad to see some of our initial impressions about the swivel elbows were wrong.  thanks for the updated images, Scott.

Now I'm excited to see the finished Bastilla down the road.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on December 7, 2010, 11:55 PM
The more I see of him, the more I love Bom Vimdin.  :)

Just Mosep, Baniss Keeg, Reegesk, Tzizvvt, Arliel Schous (Defel), and Solomahal to go...   and I guess the [HASBRO CENSORED] Twins, but I'm not holding my breath for them.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2010, 01:29 AM
And Garrouf Lafoe...  and Yerka Mig...  and the weird Spacer Dude in Bossk's spacesuit...  and then the other weird spacer dude in the white outfit...  and...  and...  and...  :)

I'd forgotten Mosep.  I'm still putting Lafoe ahead of Mosep on my most wanted list, but not by much, and Mosep would be very cool.  Love his freaky whiskers.

I'd put a new Snaggletooth in there too.  He was a favorite as a kid so I kind of long for a resculpt of him.  Not likely, but he'd be a happy repurchase for me I think.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 8, 2010, 02:35 AM
Thanks for the scanned images. I'm not liking that Dr. Evanzan's legs are unarticulated. Is this because it's a prototype?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2010, 02:51 AM
I'm going to guess yes, however I won't like that either if they wind up NOT being articulated.  I'm with you on that Jabba.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: jono on December 8, 2010, 06:45 AM
The input drawings show insert moulded ankles and knees ....relax. :)

These look great -Bom even better than i imagined!

That skiffmaster will look great once his arms are posed neutrally.


Hmmm. I wonder what cantina figures will be in the 2012 lineup.

My hunch is Modal Node,Bannis Keeg and Arliel schous -and if we get four -New Takeel.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: AmanaMatt on December 8, 2010, 09:42 AM
Nice pics - and thanks.....all look pretty good to me - passing on the ROTS character, but may pick up the video game one - the Rebel Fleet Trooper and the good Doctor look to be the standouts
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on December 8, 2010, 10:10 AM
Actually, the only thing that looks off is that Weequay's head is too small.  Compare it to the inset picture.  That's why he looks so poofy.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on December 8, 2010, 10:55 AM
Echoing others....thanks for the pics Scott.  I think everything looks pretty great too.  Nice to (finally) get a real nice version of a primary Rebel army builder like that.  I think that Bom Vimdin is my favorite of what we've seen so far though, just really cool.  Like many others, he was top of my Cantina list as well, and it looks like they really hit it out of the park here.  Weequay and Barriss are welcome too, looks like some really nice stuff there.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 8, 2010, 04:07 PM
Thanks Scott, seeing the details better makes this wave that much better. I really cannot wait to see the Feb Toy Fair SW showing after seeing this. There are so many characters that I want redone, it's amazing how Hasbro is hitting homeruns with every figure they make now. Wave 5 is more forgivable.

Where is that AOTC wave? I am ready for more Vintage!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: iFett on January 12, 2011, 10:20 AM
Does that Stan guy work for Hasbro?  Guess I never really cared enough to ask...BMF Sandcrawler would rock, but I can't see that happening.  It's a rolling brick.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on January 12, 2011, 10:29 AM
I just posted these but it disappeared?

I hope to see this thread exploding with lots of good comments today, in light of the RS Vintage pre-Toy Fair rumor news on their front page:


Captain Tarpals?  :)

Orray? New Taun-taun sculpt?  :D

New Speeder Bike sculpt?  ;D

BMF-style Jawa Sandcrawler?!?!  :o

Let's discuss!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on January 12, 2011, 10:33 AM
Does that Stan guy work for Hasbro?  Guess I never really cared enough to ask...BMF Sandcrawler would rock, but I can't see that happening.  It's a rolling brick.

Yeah, and they already indicated the only "BIG" item this year was for TCW, so maybe this is all BS or just loitering in their metaphorical "parking lot".

Are they even going to make mid-size vehicles for this line anymore? They have really dwindled in terms of recent offerings...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 12, 2011, 10:41 AM
while all of those are not real wants for me (except probably the speeder bike) in terms of being at the top of my list - they are all winning choices for sure imo and I would gladly pick them all up.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on January 12, 2011, 10:57 AM
Sounds like a list of a designer's desk... I refuse to believe they'd put out a Sandcrawler above $80.  Even if I see it at retail some day in a few years, I'll still refuse to believe it.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on January 12, 2011, 11:22 AM
A nice rumor list, but as usual, a huge grain of salt.  Personally, a new Taun Taun is one of my biggest wants from the line, so I hope that does pan out eventually (although Empire's anniversary would have been the perfect time for that).  Same goes for the Speeder Bike, I'd love to see a new version of that (hopefully with a flight stand of some sort as well).  I'd be all for a "BMF" Sandcrawler, but I'd be really surprised if we saw that.  The last version (which I regrettably missed) I believe got clearanced out when it started out at like $60, right?  It would sure be neat though, and I'd definitely pick one up.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 12, 2011, 12:19 PM
Does that Stan guy work for Hasbro?  Guess I never really cared enough to ask...BMF Sandcrawler would rock, but I can't see that happening.  It's a rolling brick.

Well in 2007 he didn't (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2584151&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1)

Here are all of the 2010 Posts for 2011 Rumors...of which hardly any actually are in the line according to the first rumor report...do you guys trust him or did the plans change :-X

Death Squad Commander
Emperor
Nien Numb
Nikto
Logray
Han in Carbonite
bespin guard
New Boba Fett
Grand Moff Tarkin
Captain and Adimeral Piett.
Uncle Owen
Logray
Luke(Dagobah Training)
2-1B
Rebel Fleet Trooper
EG-6 (Gonk droid)
Toryrn Farr
Nien numb
Lando in skiff disquise
Sim Aloo
nikto
Hammerhead
Sandtrooper
Yerka Mig
Sarissa Jeng
Sar Labooda
Anakin  (Arena)
Padme (Arena)
Luke (Hoth)
Wicket
Zam Wessel
Count Dooku
Widdle/Ochee

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on January 12, 2011, 12:20 PM
I think a BMF Sandcrawler is not...too out of the question.  It's a very good playset, and features heavily in the Lego Star Wars game, so it has a chance.

Too bad they didn't do that during build a droid, and you could set up inside.

Who knows, maybe they will take adavantage of all the BAD parts, and use them as pack in stuff.

It could also have some sort of hidden gun, or winch, or crane or something, for play value.  Plus lots of hatches and stairs and play spaces. It could even have some sort of Mini-Rig that rolls  out like the BMF's life pod thingy. The more I think about it, the more I think it could be super cool.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on January 12, 2011, 12:24 PM
Sandcrawler would be cool, but I'd much prefer a Sail Barge, Death Star, Bespin Playset, Echo Base, etc.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Morgbug on January 12, 2011, 01:23 PM
 It's a very good playset,

Not nice to tease Chewie like that.  Or curse the thing from being made by referring to it as such. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on January 12, 2011, 02:18 PM
Ooops.  So sorry. I was just stating that it fits into Hasbro's Vehicle/Playset agenda that the BMF started.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 12, 2011, 03:13 PM
Just doing some stan math.... 7 out of 30 for late 2010-2011...that is less than 25% right...

Death Squad Commander
Emperor
Nien Numb
Nikto
Han in Carbonite
bespin guard
New Boba Fett
Grand Moff Tarkin
Captain and Adimeral Piett.
Uncle Owen
Logray
Luke(Dagobah Training)
2-1B
Rebel Fleet Trooper
EG-6 (Gonk droid)
Toryrn Farr
Lando in skiff disquise
Sim Aloo
Hammerhead
Sandtrooper
Yerka Mig
Sarissa Jeng
Sar Labooda
Anakin  (Arena)
Padme (Arena)
Luke (Hoth)
Wicket
Zam Wessel
Count Dooku
Widdle/Ochee
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2011, 07:17 PM
Let me just say that if the Speederbike happens, then Jedi Defender claims responsibility for it...  Not really a rumor that just materialized. ;)

We asked Hasbro about it years ago, including a stand for it to "float", in one of the Q&A's.  I'm sure it's in the archive here because it was oooolllllddddd, and Hasbro was receptive to the idea.

So basically that one's been rumored for probably two years now.  I forget the exact date off-hand, but I do know we were the first to make inquiries about it because I'm so bitchy about scale.  And I suppose anyone could slap it onto a "rumor list" and claim they magically predicted it too, I dunno.  But I do know it's been on Hasbro's radar for some time.  Hell, I think at least two other sites after us wound up asking the same basic question then in more recent Q&A's!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: iFett on January 12, 2011, 07:34 PM
Let me just say that if the Speederbike happens, then Jedi Defender claims responsibility for it...  Not really a rumor that just materialized. ;)

We asked Hasbro about it years ago, including a stand for it to "float", in one of the Q&A's.  I'm sure it's in the archive here because it was oooolllllddddd, and Hasbro was receptive to the idea.

As long as I don't have to pay $21.99 at TRU for a new Speederbike...Well the dlx line is still too expensive at Target/WM even.  MUST HAVE though.  $9.99 is a pipedream....so long good ol dlx pricepoint.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2011, 07:37 PM
For the WM/Target price, I'd bite...  The OT goodness of it would make me quite happy enough to pay for it.  If it were not OT, like a new more detailed BARC or something, i'd probably scoff.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darby on January 12, 2011, 08:46 PM
I think everyone knows where I stand on the Sandcrawler. 

That said, it's hard to take anything Stan says seriously.  His track record is iffy and I could put together a list at this point and be 25% right all of the time.  The options for Hasbro are that limited.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on January 12, 2011, 09:14 PM
Sandcrawler would be awesome, but it would have to tranform into a tank for kids to be interested.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on January 12, 2011, 09:21 PM
A new Sandcrawler would have to incorporate a whole lot of play features in order for Hasbro to take the plunge on that.  The one area where I think it could POSSIBLY be viable?  Perhaps if they did it as an R/C vehicle with working treads they might capitalize on what they've tried with the R/C Hailfire droid.  The Kenner vintage Sandcrawler was an R/C vehicle and perhaps Hasbro would want to go in that direction for a Vintage Collection exclusive vehicle.  But that seems like a bit of a stretch.

As for the other rumors?  A new tauntaun has been rumored for some time.  Will it happen?  I don't know, but Hasbro seems to be favoring TESB in a big way.  But indications have been that recent creature offerings didn't perform as well as Hasbro might have liked.  The orray seems less likely, especially since it's only the Geonosians that use them.  Is it possible that the orray may have been confused with a kaadu, since Captain Tarpals is also on this list?  It certainly seems like a possibility.

The speeder bike seems like a no-brainer.  And I seem to recall that Hasbro MAY have stated in a Q&A session that they might have located the Saga/Clone Wars speeder bike tool which has been favored by a number of collectors.  And with the Deluxe figure & vehicle packs I think this could be a real possibility.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 13, 2011, 09:46 AM
So...looks like stan is saying these are now further out...we can play that game too and go further back in time:

For 2010-2011 in 2009 he had the following...

9 out of 42...that is 22%...we could keep going back in time :-X

Queen Jamilla
Barris Offe
Darth Sidious Senate Duel
Hoth Leia
Admiral Ackbar

Tarkin
Sarissa Jeng
Jar Jar Binks
Naboo Pilot
Tey How
Ratts Tyrell
Adi Gallia
Padme Episode I
Kithaba
Hoth Luke
At-St Driver
Lumat
Sim Aloo
Nien Numb
Death Squad Commander
Rebel Fleet Trooper
Walrus Man
Dr. Evason

Bom Vimdin
Yerka Mig
C3P0 with removable limbs
Rebel deck officer
Adimeral Ozzel
Cloud Car Pilot
R2 with periscope
Cliegg Lars
wuher
Widdle and Ochee
New SA Yoda
Vintage Bespin Guard
Han in Carbonite
Aurra Sing
Rebel Taun Taun Handler
Torryn Farr
Commandy Cody
Lt. Sheckil
Saurvin,
Danz Borin
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on January 13, 2011, 10:10 AM
I think we need to look at this list in a new way...

Queen Jamilla
Barris Offe
Darth Sidious Senate Duel
Hoth Leia
Admiral Ackbar

Tarkin
Sarissa Jeng
Jar Jar Binks---He's coming 2011, right?
Naboo Pilot
Tey How
Ratts Tyrell---Isn't he in the same TPM wave a Jar Jar?
Adi Gallia
Padme Episode I
Kithaba
Hoth Luke
At-St Driver---We did get one, just not on a card.
Lumat
Sim Aloo
Nien Numb
Death Squad Commander
Rebel Fleet Trooper
Walrus Man---He's been just about confirmed, correct?  To go with Evason
Dr. Evason
Bom Vimdin
Yerka Mig
C3P0 with removable limbs
Rebel deck officer
Adimeral Ozzel
Cloud Car Pilot---He came out in TVC
R2 with periscope
Cliegg Lars
wuher
Widdle and Ochee
New SA Yoda
Vintage Bespin Guard
Han in Carbonite
Aurra Sing---Could have been TCW figure
Rebel Taun Taun Handler
Torryn Farr
Commandy Cody
Lt. Sheckil
Saurvin,
Danz Borin

I don't doubt that any of these figures could actually be happening.  When is the issue.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on January 13, 2011, 10:50 AM
We also got a Bespin Guard, C-3PO with removable limbs and R2 with Periscope. And I think the new Yoda is SA.

But honestly, at this point there's not a limitless list of figures that need to be done, so it's not hard to come up with a rumor list and have a bunch of them be accurate.

I have to say though, I really doubt there will be a big sandcrawler made. It would be cool (since I have a bucket of droids that don't really fit in any particular scene, and need a place to be displayed), but I just can't see it happening. I could see Hasbro going with the sail barge instead, since at least a battle happens on it.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2011, 04:15 PM
The only way I can fathom a Sandcrawler happening is as a "Droid Factory" type set since Hasbro's mentioned that as an idea they wanted to get to.  I could see them wanting to make it a "rolling" vehicle type deal rather than a playset, and so that whole concept could play out I guess.  But they said this year's big item would be under $100 and Clone Wars related, so that really has nothing to do with a Sandcrawler it seems.

I think they kind of blew it on that though, since BAD's done too.  They wouldn't try that in a non-BAD year I'd wager.  BAD could always come back of course, and this happens then.  It'd have a little more credence I think.  But as far as Hasbro's concerned, BAD didn't really drive sales since the line wasn't doing well since 2008...  I doubt BAD comes back in any grand capacity.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on January 13, 2011, 05:02 PM
Who knows...maybe there's some crazy Sandcrawler story arc in the Clone Wars fall season.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 13, 2011, 08:38 PM
Thank you, Thank you! Stan's like the Great Criswell,  "It's all about razzle-dazzle. If you look good, and you talk well, people will swallow anything."

The Speeder Bike has been rumored about three years ago, BTW...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on January 13, 2011, 10:33 PM
A very good new speeder bike makes a ton of sense.  Hasbro could release one with a Biker Scout, one with Luke, one with Leia, and a white one with that snowtrooper/scout combo.

I'd even like to see a sand colored one with a biker scout that has a sandtrooper backpack and orage paldron.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: DoctorPadawan on January 14, 2011, 02:17 PM
And I seem to recall that Hasbro MAY have stated in a Q&A session that they might have located the Saga/Clone Wars speeder bike tool which has been favored by a number of collectors. 

They definitely found it, as they've used the mold twice in the last year:  once on the Clone Wars Plo Koon deluxe set (which used the modified version with the removable firing cannon from the 2003 Clone Wars line) and with the AT-AT's speeder bike, which uses the original 2002 mold.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 14, 2011, 04:00 PM
I think the number of collectors who favors that sculpt is around 5 or 6 though. ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on January 15, 2011, 12:29 PM
I noticed named Imperial Officers come up on rumor lists but hardly any are ever made. Needa was made. I can't recall any others, besides the Endor Battle Pack guy.

Hasbro's Deryl DePriest said Lucasfilm rejected Sarissa Jeng for the Arena Two-Packs, why would they take a bigger risk making her a single carded figure?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: EpicGon on January 15, 2011, 09:01 PM
What we can expect for the new tvc vehicles, creatures:

For the tvc Sandcrawler (bmf style) more room and better proportion of the computers inside.
Lights on front and on top in the cockpit area (perhaps seats for 4 jawas)
Sounds, movie phrases (ok, they always do)
Two jawas included, perhaps kitbashes; desirable the towering jawa for variation.

Endor Speeder bike:
larger than former vehicle, with seat for two action figures; to recreate Luke and Leia chasing the biker scout.
Including pilot (Biker scout; Removable helmet? ok relax Hasbro, but donīt forget to paint yellow, beige or cream the bootsī soles.)

New sculpt Taun taun:
Like potf2, Hasbro made a kicking feature for Hanīs taun taun
Open belly variation for Lukeīs Tauntaun (but in movie argument was Hanīs)
Removable and colorful saddle, with pegs to hold binoculars, sensors.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on May 18, 2011, 12:07 AM
Storm the Separatist Cruiser Figure Battle Pack  (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS35578)

Quote
Collector's note: This item is a repackaged version of the classic Star Wars Episode III Jedi vs. Separatists Battlepack

What? No, really, that's got to be an error.  All these battle packs are listed as being reissues by Entertainment Earth, when they are likely those Clone Wars 3-packs we've seen photos of.

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on May 18, 2011, 08:26 AM
So that would be a realistic style BP and not the animated TCW style, right?

When did they start issuing Battle Game cards for non-TCW figures? Is that a new twist?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on May 18, 2011, 09:28 AM
So that would be a realistic style BP and not the animated TCW style, right?

When did they start issuing Battle Game cards for non-TCW figures? Is that a new twist?

Saga Legends have the Game cards.  ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JDH1173 on May 29, 2011, 11:55 AM
So, I saw somewhere that the current rumor is the next bog vehicle with have gun rack, troop compartments, etc.  Is it possible that we are getting a new rebel troop transport rather then a sandcrawler?  It would convert into a good playset as well.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darby on May 29, 2011, 12:52 PM
A Sandcrawler is really all I want, but this makes me think of the Blockade Runner.  If it's true.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Biffette on May 29, 2011, 12:55 PM
Yeah, I saw that rumor.  What a worthless rumor.  That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle.  Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes!  I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page:  Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures.  These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . .  care to guess what they might be?  See, I graduted from the school of making **** up too.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 29, 2011, 01:52 PM
Yeah, I saw that rumor.  What a worthless rumor.  That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle.  Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes!  I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page:  Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures.  These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . .  care to guess what they might be?  See, I graduated from the school of making **** up too.

That's the most plausible rumour going.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 29, 2011, 03:45 PM
Yeah, I saw that rumor.  What a worthless rumor.  That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle.  Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes!  I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page:  Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures.  These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . .  care to guess what they might be?  See, I graduated from the school of making **** up too.

That's the most plausible rumour going.

Biffette pretty much summed up my evaluation on RS's wonderful Intel. Is the hobby that desperate for news that this kind of "information" suffices for their front page post? This same speculation was going on already in their "Big One" forum thread. It's really pathetic, they should be called out on this as pointed out by Biffette.

Now if the news came from STAN (Someone Telling Alleged News) then I would believe it to be true....

(http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2010/04/29/bull****-button_RJrtm_22974.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on May 29, 2011, 05:45 PM
Biff's post made me LOL.  Thanks for that today.

I'd laugh my ass off if then we wound up with the Sandcrawler and got absolutely no gun racks and troop compartments.  The irony would be overwhelming.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 30, 2011, 09:09 AM
I had heard at one point that the Sail Barge was on the short list, and even in the modeling phase, but this rumor seems to indicate it could be something cooler. It's be awesome if they take the Clone Wars Attack Shuttle route and do a new Imperial Shuttle. But a Blockade Runner would be cool too.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on May 30, 2011, 10:56 AM
I'm thinking it's the Imperial Landing Craft.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 30, 2011, 11:47 AM
I never understood the desire to have the blockade runner made...it would be so underscaled as to be pretty much ridiculous.

Not that I would want a to-scale blockade runner either...we've all seen that one (http://www.roadsquadron.com/Cars/Tantive_MaulRig/Tantive&Rig.jpg).
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: stan on May 30, 2011, 12:27 PM
Darth Anton statement is right on the money on which BMF it is!
Sandcrawler its not, but when timing is right. Hasbro hinted in mOst recent Q and A about upcoming new fodder: Yarvin Ceremony Figures.  It's same format as toy r us exclusives Battle of Endor Paks
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on May 30, 2011, 12:38 PM
Hasbro also did not say "no" when the sandcrawler was asked about.  It could still be a really fun toy.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 30, 2011, 12:42 PM
Yeah, I saw that rumor.  What a worthless rumor.  That is the basic description for EVERY large vehicle.  Name a large vehicle that doesn't contain those attributes!  I've got a rumor for the otheR Site to put on their front page:  Next year, Hasbro will be releasing several action figures.  These action figures will span the entire SW Saga; some of accessories will include robes, lightsabers, blasters, and stands . . .  care to guess what they might be?  See, I graduted from the school of making **** up too.

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on May 30, 2011, 04:21 PM
Here's thinking outside the box...It's a Rebel Troop Transport.  But the top opens up to reveal what looks like the control room in Echo Base...and has a nice open inside for storage and play.  It could be a very cool vehicle/toy.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on May 31, 2011, 11:17 PM
Reading through the rumor finally.

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According to the report, this updated BMF-style vehicle will double as a playset and will include lights, sounds, weapon racks, cargo areas, opening cockpits, troop holders!

There are  only a handful of vehicles that come to mind that might include these features.

-Imperial Shuttle
-Imperial Landing Craft
-Rebel Transport

Out of the three I think there's only one solid contender.  The Landing Craft only appears briefly in the Special Edition of A NEW HOPE.  Even though it's got that Imperial tie-in that might make it seem like a contender, and it could have a lot of potential action features, I have to think that it's incredibly limited screen time DOOMS the Imperial Landing craft.

And on numerous occassions in Q&A sessions with Hasbro they have explicitly stated that the Rebel Transport is NOT happening.  Don't believe me?  READ (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg38236#msg38236).  Either Hasbro has been planning a Rebel Transport and gleefully lying to the collecting community, or they had a huge change of heart if this is going to happen.  In this case I take Hasbro at their word.  The Rebel Transport is a cool vintage find, but would probably make a terrible modern vehicle.

A revamped Imperial Shuttle is the only vehicle that makes sense to me.  It's got a proven track record at retail, but the modern releases have been based on a 1983 vintage toy.  And the interior of that vintage vehicle (and the modern re-releases) has always been kind of lame.  Especially when you compare it to the BMF Falcon and AT-AT.  Plus, it features significantly in ROTJ with Vader, the Emporer and our Rebel friends.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on May 31, 2011, 11:22 PM
And on numerous occassions in Q&A sessions with Hasbro they have explicitly stated that the Rebel Transport is NOT happening.  Don't believe me?  READ (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg38236#msg38236).

They said the same about the Cloud Car (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_55th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_115099.asp).

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Rebelscum: In various replies by Hasbro we received several times the answer that the Cloud Car would not look "agressive enough" to be a success.

Hasbro: Compared to all other vehicles we could do, we feel that the Cloud Car is visually uninteresting, has the least on-screen action, and would be perceived as the most boring (i.e. not aggressive looking) to boys compared to anything else we could do. The Twin Pod Cloud Car is probably the vintage vehicle that is the most plentiful and can be made the cheapest as well. You can pick them up for $15 and under - much less than the price we'd need to command for a new one.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on May 31, 2011, 11:33 PM
And on numerous occassions in Q&A sessions with Hasbro they have explicitly stated that the Rebel Transport is NOT happening.  Don't believe me?  READ (http://www.jeditemplewarroom.com/forum/index.php?topic=2797.msg38236#msg38236).

They said the same about the Cloud Car (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_55th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_115099.asp).

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Rebelscum: In various replies by Hasbro we received several times the answer that the Cloud Car would not look "agressive enough" to be a success.

Hasbro: Compared to all other vehicles we could do, we feel that the Cloud Car is visually uninteresting, has the least on-screen action, and would be perceived as the most boring (i.e. not aggressive looking) to boys compared to anything else we could do. The Twin Pod Cloud Car is probably the vintage vehicle that is the most plentiful and can be made the cheapest as well. You can pick them up for $15 and under - much less than the price we'd need to command for a new one.


So you think they might be doing a Rebel Transport rope-a-dope?  We'll see.  The only think from the RS rumor that would lead me to even give it a glimmer of hope was the word "cockpits" in their report.

I think the Imperial Shuttle might have a much better chance.  I bet someone like Mark Boudreaux has been chomping at the bit to revisit the cockpit of that vehicle alone, since the vintage one really does suck.  And in light of what he was able to do with the BMF Falcon's cockpit I could see them going all out on a new shuttle.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on May 31, 2011, 11:50 PM
All I think this is is a coy way of describing a re-release of the Falcon only in a Vintage box.

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According to the report, this updated BMF-style vehicle will double as a playset and will include lights, sounds, weapon racks, cargo areas, opening cockpits, troop holders!

The BMF has all those descriptors, from a certain point of view.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on May 31, 2011, 11:57 PM
I wouldn't be shocked at that...  At this point I don't rule anything out on Hasbro's part.  They've double-backed on a bit of stuff they'd denied at one point or another.  And the "rumor" is so vague, it could apply to just about anything they ultimately would do, as well.  You could apply it to a Sandcrawler or Sailbarge if you wanted to.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on June 1, 2011, 12:03 AM
The only issue with the sail barge theory is that this wouldn't be an "updated" item since there hasn't been one before.  ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2011, 12:05 AM
True, there's probably one somewhere that you could stretch that to fit though in some capacity, haha.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on June 1, 2011, 12:05 AM
imperial heavy transport might be a good BMF, it is heavy armored, and has alot of fire power, It is in ANH dewback scene and in the rogue squadron game series.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Captain Piet on June 1, 2011, 06:08 AM
imperial heavy transport might be a good BMF, it is heavy armored, and has alot of fire power, It is in ANH dewback scene and in the rogue squadron game series.

But it's never been done before, which contradicts the spy report.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 1, 2011, 07:59 AM
With the 30th anniversary of ROTJ the next year, and that being a CW Big vehicle year, it will probably be ROTJ related. Imperial shuttle probably.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on June 1, 2011, 08:22 AM
Or the Falcon in a ROTJ box.  ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 1, 2011, 09:08 AM
Or the Falcon in a ROTJ box.  ;)

Oh, I still need one. Hard to hide that thing from the wife lol.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 1, 2011, 10:16 AM
I cannot see the Imperial Shuttle next up on the list. We are getting the CW Attack Shuttle this year and the Imp one seems too similar to do back to back.

I think it will be the Sailbarge/Jabba Palace despite the Hasbro's denial. If there is any truth behind the RS report the next big one is from the OTC and opens up into a playset. I can see them doing the Sailbarge that also doubles as the Palace. A lot of action takes place around the Palace and Sailbarge. Both did appear in the CW cartoon as well, which does help There is a lot of hype around the Blueray DVD with the Luke cave scene and rumors are buzzing that the Sandstorm scene is going to be added as well.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: warinthefloor on June 1, 2011, 10:25 AM
want
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 1, 2011, 07:36 PM
Don't forget the Sailbarge appears on the Tatooine podrace scene in Star Tours 2. ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Ghost of QG on June 1, 2011, 08:19 PM
I'm going with either the Rebel Transport from Empire or the Tantive IV ( already an unreleased vintage mold)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on June 2, 2011, 01:07 PM
Hmmm...Blockade Runner might have a chance.  While it will be underscaled, it could still be a very cool toy.  Aside from the Falcon, all the BMF vehicles have been Imperial type things (clones included)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: warinthefloor on June 2, 2011, 02:01 PM
well that that we are getting a decent fleet trooper....
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 2, 2011, 04:52 PM
Aside from the Falcon, all the BMF vehicles have been Imperial type things (clones included)

I hear you, which is why I was really hoping for a BMF Y-Wing. Though an ESB-deco Slave 1 would be really, really appreciated as well.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 3, 2011, 08:58 AM
Odds are it's ROTJ related tho with the anniversary coming up. Narrows the possibilities down.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on June 3, 2011, 10:25 AM
Medical Frigate FTW!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 3, 2011, 03:42 PM
ROTJ Boxed AT-AT with dirty Endor feet.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: iFett on June 3, 2011, 03:51 PM
ROTJ Boxed AT-AT with dirty Endor feet.

That would suck, but it's an easy one for Hasbro.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 3, 2011, 09:19 PM
DEATH STAR II that unfolds into Ewok Village.  :P
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 4, 2011, 10:39 AM
DEATH STAR II that unfolds into Ewok Village.  :P


That is funny, my friend.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on June 15, 2011, 01:00 PM
Sooo...we have the following confirmations in the last few Q&A's

Leia Bespin
Weequay
Grand Moff Tarkin
Ben Quadrinaros
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 15, 2011, 01:23 PM
Leia Bespin

Gown or Escape?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 15, 2011, 01:32 PM
I couldn't discern that from Hasbro's response either.  The way it was phrased I would think Bespin Gown, especially since that figure was part of the original vintage line.  But personally I would prefer a new Bespin Escape / Carbon Freeze Chamber Leia.  The POTJ figure is totally dated, especially with the pre-posed nature of that figure.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 15, 2011, 01:38 PM
Agreed, I'd much rather have the Bespin escape version. She doesn't really do anything in the gown.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 15, 2011, 01:52 PM
The TVC Hoth Leia would be a good starting point for a new Bespin Escape Leia.  As for the card art?  I'd like to see this:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/nicklabatearthlinkdotnet/sw/movie%20stills/esb2_mq_321.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 15, 2011, 09:20 PM
Sooo...we have the following confirmations in the last few Q&A's

Leia Bespin
Weequay
Grand Moff Tarkin
Ben Quadrinaros

ALso, either Kitster and Wald are coming this year or never. I'd say never.  :-\
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on June 15, 2011, 09:24 PM
I would rather have a nice ANH Leia.  They have never really made of those that has satisfied me.  I agree a Leia Bespin Escape is preferred over Leia Bespin Gown.  However, I will buy her for that cardback being partial to anything on an OT cardback :) 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Diddly on June 16, 2011, 01:44 AM
I'd like to see a Bespin Escape Leia in the Vintage line... save the Dinner Gown resculpt for if they ever decide to bring back the Evolutions sets (preferably with Yavin Ceremony, Bespin Gown and Ewok Gown Leias)

As for the rest... can't begin to tell you how excited I am for Tarkin
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 16, 2011, 10:45 AM
As for the rest... can't begin to tell you how excited I am for Tarkin

Seconded!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: warinthefloor on June 16, 2011, 11:49 AM
coupel weeks ago I was playing the sarlac battle, and was telling the old lady that I would like a new Skiff lando and Jedi luke, then the Q&A said we were getiing essentially that with the deleted scene figures, then when I told her about that coincidink, she asked who else I would like to see and I responded with Tarken and Bespin leie now they are announced..so if this spell is still working, should I pontificate a Tonnika sister with her?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 17, 2011, 01:51 PM
coupel weeks ago I was playing the sarlac battle, and was telling the old lady that I would like a new Skiff lando and Jedi luke, then the Q&A said we were getiing essentially that with the deleted scene figures, then when I told her about that coincidink, she asked who else I would like to see and I responded with Tarken and Bespin leie now they are announced..so if this spell is still working, should I pontificate a Tonnika sister with her?

Can you mention Ackmena too?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on June 17, 2011, 02:08 PM
Apparently we're in for some realistic-styled TCW figures! ;D

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Q2)  And any chance/thought of Hasbro doing figures of Pre-Visla, Cad Bane, Asoka, Hondo, Embo, or any of the other "Clone Wars" characters in the more realistic saga or vintage styles?

A2)  Yep, you asked for it, you got it.  A handful of core Clone Wars figures are planned for the Vintage Collection line in 2012.  Stay tuned for more information!

From Action Figure Insider in the latest Q/A session.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Rob on June 21, 2011, 02:52 PM
Who asked for it?  That's the last thing I want them to do.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on June 21, 2011, 03:07 PM
Who asked for it?  That's the last thing I want them to do.

co-sign.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 21, 2011, 04:55 PM
Who asked for it?  That's the last thing I want them to do.

Raises hand.  I did. :)  Actually most collectors were bitching up a storm when the animated line was announced, instead of realistic, as I recall.  I like the toon, but don't like what ammounts to a completely separate line of figures, so I'm all for realistic.  I don't need everything from the cartoon made though...  Mains and Clones, maybe some battledroid redecoes, and I'm pretty happy.

Guys like Whorm Loathsome would be ok, but not necessary.  Super background Jedi, again ok, and they've got a lot of bodies available to do them I guess, but not necessary.  I would like to see a Clone Officer in the grey uniforms though.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 21, 2011, 05:38 PM
Who asked for it?  That's the last thing I want them to do.

While initially I was one of those folks who hated the idea of an animated line. I've actually warmed up to it quite a bit and even though I predicted this would one day happen, I'm kinda hoping they keep the number of characters made in the realistic style to a minimum - maybe Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ashoka, Rex and Cad Bane and that's it.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on June 21, 2011, 08:37 PM
LOL!  Yeah, I doubt those will be all.  I just hope it's not going to be all Clonetroopers.  Rex I could them doing him and a few others but I bet they do a whole bunch of him.   
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on June 21, 2011, 11:28 PM
Maybe they will go the other way as well.  I want to see an animated style ANH Luke, Vader, Han, Fett, Stormtrooper and Chewie.  (Ooops, he's coming out.)

All they have to do is plaster the package with a "Classic Character" sticker.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on June 22, 2011, 06:07 AM
that would be awesome seeing the main OT characters in animated style and even a animated tv show using just OT, but I feel like Lucasfilm would never approve on OT animated figures.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 22, 2011, 09:10 AM
I'd love to get a few of those IG-86 droids...and I like the idea of the clone officers, and possibly some other republic officer types.

I just don't want it to turn into another clone-fest...I feel like we have that already. Heroes, yeah, but generic clones are getting a bit boring. I'd rather have some alien characters, some new Mandolorians (not using the same Boba Fett body) and possibly different Sep droids. Those battle droid commandos are kind of cool.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 23, 2011, 11:45 AM
I am actually very excited about some realistic CW figures. I was in that camp that was pissed at the animated figure direction. I really believe that hurt the line and not help. If they were realistic I think it would have brought in some more kids on the mainline. Guys like me who buy most items has only purchased a handful of animated figures most for their accessories, they lost a lot of money with me. Spilled milk now but I am glad they see the writing on the wall and are addressing the market. After the main characters I do not mind seeing some Clone repaints (Echo, Fives) and repaints of Mandos using some Boba/Jango parts in exclusive sets. I agree there are some great aliens to tap into that would be better than repaints. I am all in on this on what they offer.

I always prefer anything OT over all prequel stuff but if it's realistic I am in.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Diddly on June 23, 2011, 03:12 PM
This idea frightens me.

I was against animated figures at the beginning too, but I started warming up to the animated line last year when I got the CW Season 1 DVD and realized that they were making great figures of some pretty cool characters. Picked up my first set of figures when stores were clearancing them out for $4.50. I mainly have stuck to villains and other characters that aren't seen in any of the movies, but I have started to pick up some of the newer, SA versions of the main characters.

And there's where I get nervous. I don't want to see realistic versions of the main characters. I have a very bad feeling this is going to be Hasbro's excuse to put out more Anakins, Obi-Wans and Greviouses. I'm totally willing to buy realistic versions of cartoon exclusive characters though, mainly Asoka, Rex and any other villains (like Cad Bane, Pre Vizsla, that Tarantula Separatist Commander, etc.). Maybe the Mon Calamari Jedi they did the mail away for. Point is, if there are any "NEW SHIN ARMOR" versions of Obi-Wan or Anakin, or any "new" versions of Grevious, I'm not buying. We already have enough versions of them clogging the pegs. If Hasbro wants to put Clones in this wave, put the Wave 6 AOTC Clone on a new card. No Yodas or R2-D2s.

Stick with characters exclusive to the cartoon.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 23, 2011, 03:47 PM
The thing is, they're always looking for new ways to put Obi-Wan and Anakin out...  That's just life with the line be it Clone Wars, or realistic.  The main characters need new life, and if Realistic Clone Wars designs are the direction, what's wrong with that?

Anakin's actually pretty significantly different...  Obi-Wan's not terribly different from his ROTS look aside from the armor bits of course, but still...  Hey, it's a "new" look for a main character Hasbro is going to try to put out anyway.  I'd rather have that than ROTS Obi-Wan, again (unless he's got battle damage from Mustafar, of course  :-X).

The line can't survive on Yarna and Cantina Alien #50, and likewise it can't survive on only realistic Ahsoka or Rex plugged in for Clone Wars.  I think Obi/Ani are inevitable.  Without them (and remakes and reissues like them), ultimately the toy line isn't going to continue in any capacity.  At least it'll be something new then.

And right now there's no cancellation of animated...  Though I could see them folding the lines together.  I think Hasbro's partially seen the "competition" between the realistic and animated at this point, and that forcing kids in one direction may be healthier for the line overall.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on June 23, 2011, 09:40 PM
And right now there's no cancellation of animated...  Though I could see them folding the lines together.  I think Hasbro's partially seen the "competition" between the realistic and animated at this point, and that forcing kids in one direction may be healthier for the line overall.

Healthier for which line though? Sounds to me like that only help boost the lagging realistic sales. The animated stuff sells fine already, I don't think that line needs to be folded into anything. If it ain't broke don't fix it, kind of a thought here.

If they fold anything it should be TVC and Legends. If there is competition on the pegs it is worse between those two, what with all their overlap of Clone Troopers, Obis, Anis, etc. 

And they sure as hell better not make Admiral Trench in a realistic style before they do his proper animated figure first!  :)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on June 23, 2011, 10:02 PM
Trench! I forgot about him.  If Kenner had the line we'd have him in a heartbeat.  They loved the freaky looking figs.

It's funny, if they announced at the end of this year that they weren't making more realistic figures I would be totally fine with that.  Don't know why.

As mentioned above, I do think that could do very well with some OT figures in the animated style.  I believe (but have no proof) that many of the long term collectors started with the OT, and it is closer to them.  Some, who normally wouldn't buy CW figures, would certainly buy a new Luke and company in a new style.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on June 24, 2011, 12:47 AM
Yeah Mike, good point...I have to admit, I'd buy any OT stuff done in an animated style in a heartbeat! I love some of those maquettes they have done like this, they translate awesome I think.

I'm not sure why LFL might oppose that, but I guess it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 24, 2011, 12:48 AM
It depends how you look at the line...  Hasbro still looks at the realistic line as the anchor, and Clone Wars as a kids line.  I'd say they view it like Collection 1 and 2, but the unanticipated reaction has been competition.  Realistic has lagged since animated started because animated, geared at the kids, is getting a lot of the sales.

So yes, it's helping realistic back, but if realistic is where you feel you're anchored (since the movies, not the cartoon, are the anchor of Star Wars), then yes I can easily see Hasbro moving away from animated to get kids back into realistic.

Right now though, I've heard realistic AND animated aren't exactly the hottest, and that Star Wars in general is slumping...  So they may feel it's time to tone things down in terms of diversity. 

I don't think they will now, I'm just saying, I think it will happen at some point.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: TheSon on June 24, 2011, 09:35 AM
It is hard to believe that sales are slumping when I have not even been able to find some of the figures in the wild. If numbers are down I would point the finger at production and distribution. As far as the combination of the lines, it it only good business to lead the group of kids that started collecting with CW to start buying some realistic. With the movies coming out in 3D this is the chance to take the group they cultivated with the CW and expand them into the entire line. It makes business sense for Hasbro. I hope it works, because in the end that is good for all of us.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on June 24, 2011, 10:13 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure how to judge the sales.  They seem down to me across the board as well, but it is always tough to tell.  The Vintage stuff (and new CW stuff) seems to sell through pretty quick (like instantly) when it does hit, but some stores are just sitting on old stuff.  In my area, TRU has had the same stuff (primarily CW Obi-Wans and a few others, and just a couple Dengars/4-LOMS on the vintage side), WM has had all of their SW pegs jammed full for months and months with all the same stuff.  Tons of CW (although nothing super recent), tons of TVC (but only Sandtrooper and ROTS Clone), and some Legends mixed in with the CW.  Target has been better of late, as I've seen cases of TVC Wave 6 come in several times in the past few weeks.  The CW section only has two Shaak Ti figures hanging out, and just a few Legends figures as well.  Actually - surprisingly - all the stores are somewhat devoid of the Legends line.  I mean, there are always some of course, but not as much as you'd expect.

I'm another one that would have liked seeing the CW line be realistic from the start, but at the same time I can understand why they went animated (and I do like the figures, its been a pretty good line).  Although I do still think it sells, I don't think it has the "heat" it once did, which is typical of today's kiddos I think.  It used to be, particularly in that first year or two, you couldn't even find a CW figure - especially around the holidays.  These days it seems to have slowed some - but not completely.  I'm always a fan of a more simple approach, so I look forward to the days when we could hopefully just have one Star Wars line again.  It may not ever happen, as times have changed a bit, but I think it might help things overall sales-wise and maybe even distribution wise.  We obviously won't see that change until the CW series is over, which is understandable, but I guess I just like the cleaner "one line" approach.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on June 28, 2011, 12:37 AM
I don't know how to judge sales either especially since I have not seen much of anything new since wave 3.  I am just not there are the right times but they are basically gone once a wave hits it seems like.  I do not know if it's because the stores just get 2 cases in or what?  The Clone Wars stuff seems to always be on the pegs but they rotate in the new waves well.  So, I assume the CW sells better overall. 

It seems to me both lines hold up well to the constant barage of competition each year from new films.  I am sure Transformers will kick SW's but when the movie comes out.  However that might only last through X-Mas.  SW will still be around next year while Thor, Green Lantern, and Captain America will probably all be on clearance. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: warinthefloor on June 28, 2011, 10:27 AM
why doesnt ANYONE EVERY Clearence anything anymore?
 that would take care of a lot of the problem of crap case assortments and brain damaged marketing types.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Rob on June 28, 2011, 07:12 PM
why doesnt ANYONE EVERY Clearence anything anymore?
 that would take care of a lot of the problem of crap case assortments and brain damaged marketing types.

Beats me... when I moved to Chicago I found it difficult to look for stuff in stores (none nearby).  I got all excited because a Target opened up near me about a year ago.  But for the last 5 or so months they've had nothing but a handful of Cloud Car pilots and 4-LOM's.  No exaggeration, they haven't gotten a new Vintage figure in at least 5 months. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 28, 2011, 07:36 PM
why doesnt ANYONE EVERY Clearence anything anymore?
 that would take care of a lot of the problem of crap case assortments and brain damaged marketing types.

Beats me... when I moved to Chicago I found it difficult to look for stuff in stores (none nearby).  I got all excited because a Target opened up near me about a year ago.  But for the last 5 or so months they've had nothing but a handful of Cloud Car pilots and 4-LOM's.  No exaggeration, they haven't gotten a new Vintage figure in at least 5 months. 

I see very much the same thing by me.  Some stores have had nothing but the leftovers from that first TESB wave of the Vintage Collection for months on end.  And when I stop by in the hopes that things may have changed, nothing.  It almost seems that if anything IS arriving at those stores it is in such insignificant quantities that 1 or 2 collectors could snatch up everything from a restock of a single case of TVC figures and nobody else would ever know the difference.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: speedermike on June 29, 2011, 12:25 AM
Believe me, you are right.  I walked into TRU today and found the entire wave 7, plus Jango.  I bought them all.  I only left a few older figs on the pegs.  The next shopper will have no choice at all.  The quantities are nuts.  But the quality is way up.  What a great wave!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on July 18, 2011, 04:24 PM
Just trying to fill in the gaps on my spreadsheets with the recent EE case assortment announcements...

  2011 VC55 Logray
  2011 VC56 ?
  2011 VC57 ?
  2011 VC58 ?
  2011 VC59 ?
  2011 VC60 ?
  2011 VC61 ?
  2011 VC62 Han Solo (in Trench Coat)
  2011 VC63 B-Wing Pilot (Keyan Farlander)
  2011 VC64 Princess Leia (Slave Outfit)
  2011 VC65 TIE Fighter Pilot
  2011 VC66 ?
  2011 VC67 ?
  2011 VC68 Rebel Soldier (Echo Base Battle Gear)
  2011 VC69 Bastilla Shan (Knights of the Old Republic)
  2011 VC70 Ponda Baba (Walrus Man)

And we've got these that need to be slotted in someplace...
  2011 VCxx 501st Legion Trooper
  2011 VCxx Aayla Secura
  2011 VCxx Doctor Evazan
  2011 VCxx Kithaba
  2011 VCxx Nom Anor

Am I missing something?  Or is that 8 number gaps and 5 figures...  sure seems like something is going on that we don't know about yet... also confirms the signs of some things definitely being moved around on the schedule.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 18, 2011, 04:26 PM
Could the other ROTJ wave figures that are getting put on Revenge of the Jedi cardbacks be getting new numbers?

That might explain the gaps in the numbering system.

Or Hasbro could just suck. That's equally possible.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Ryan on July 18, 2011, 04:50 PM
What about the 'mini' Salacious and Mouse Droid figures from the SDCC Exclusive Revenge Wheel? Maybe the are actually a part fo the numbering system? But that would still only account for 2 out of 3 of the extra open spots...

They did have some issues with the numbering system with the 2003-2004 SAGA line, I suppose something like that could have happened again and we'll just see some repack figures that get the extra numbers.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on July 18, 2011, 06:11 PM
IIRC, isn't there a REVENGE version of Luke (Endor Capture)?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 18, 2011, 07:16 PM
IIRC, isn't there a REVENGE version of Luke (Endor Capture)?

This is what I thought as well - that every carded figure in the Death Star SDCC set would also be getting released in Vintage figure assortments. So the exclusive really only gets you the DS2 packaging and the two mini-figures. Everything else will be available at retail.

So that means, is the Endor Capture Luke w/Revenge of the Jedi on the front still going to be VC23? Or is he going to have a new number? Same thing goes with Wicket, Ackbar, Rebel Commando, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Bar2-D2 and the Stormtrooper - same numbers as before or all new?

There are exactly eight blanks in your numbering so my guess would be that they are indeed getting new numbers.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 18, 2011, 07:36 PM
I can't see them renumbering the Revenge figures just to fill in the blanks. There has got to be some leap frogging of numbers that is going on like what happened with Wedge and Yoda. I can see Tarkin, TPM characters and other rumored figures eventually filling in the spots now that it seems they're going with the 3 new figures per case game and filling the rest with carry-forwards and "Revenge" chasers.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Ryan on July 18, 2011, 08:26 PM
I was taking another look at what was rumored and had an idea. What about these three figures that didn't have waves either?

Confirmed by Hasbro, but no wave assigned yet..
  2011 VCxx Princess Leia (RotJ Sandstorm)
  2011 VCxx Aurra Sing
  2011 VCxx Ratts Tyrell

Maybe they are going to sneak into this year's assortment. These plus the other five Jeff mentioned would make up the eight missing spots in the order. I highly doubt repacked "Revenge" variants would get a new number. UGH, First Day of Issue and the like were all just packaging variations that had the same numbers as the regular versions. Why would the 'Revenge' figures be any different?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2011, 10:23 AM
I highly doubt repacked "Revenge" variants would get a new number.

All of the on-line case assortments have them listed with the old number:

Examples from EE listings:
1x VC27 Wicket (Revenge)
1x VC41 Stormtrooper (Revenge)

Doesn't seem likely that the Revenge figures will have new numbers...

The more I think about it, the more it seems obvious that the "missing" 8 figures are the five figures from what should have been "Wave 8" and then probably the three figures that would have filled out Wave 9, but were bumped in favor of more "Revenge" repacks.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 11:51 AM
This has a little more creedence than a rumor:  Check out this JTA Q&A session with Hasbro (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8246).  Notably, this part from Hasbro:

Quote
Hasbro: We agree there are still some holes left to fill in the Vintage Collection.  By the end of 2012 some of these gaps will be filled, with, for instance, figures like Lumat

So, expect a Lumat figure by the end of 2012!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on July 22, 2011, 12:12 PM
 Vague info about Episode 1 figures and light-up features (http://rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_95th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_139694.asp)

I've got a bad feeling about this....
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: iFett on July 22, 2011, 12:24 PM
That's certainly not going to make the price on basic figs come down any.  Might be neat though!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 22, 2011, 12:29 PM
New Vos coming (http://echobase.d2i.net/index.php?topic=713.0)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Rob on July 22, 2011, 12:44 PM
A third Quinlin Vos?  What the hell is important about this guy?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Paul on July 22, 2011, 01:27 PM
New Vos coming (http://echobase.d2i.net/index.php?topic=713.0)

That is a pretty novel concept for a Forum to use folks real names.  Wonder if it will catch on.....
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on July 22, 2011, 01:33 PM
I don't care for Vos.  Hasbro must think we want him more over some more important updates (Hoth Luke comes to mind)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on July 22, 2011, 01:42 PM
Quote
2)  Since you asked so directly it's only fair to respond with a direct answer.

Is there some turn-around in how Hasbro is doing their Q&As?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 22, 2011, 01:44 PM
A third Quinlin Vos?  What the hell is important about this guy?

Nothing in my eyes. Just another fan-wank is all.  >:D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 26, 2011, 02:14 PM
What about the 'mini' Salacious and Mouse Droid figures from the SDCC Exclusive Revenge Wheel? Maybe the are actually a part fo the numbering system? But that would still only account for 2 out of 3 of the extra open spots...

As it turns out, Ryan was spot-on....

From the description on HTS re: the Death Star Revenge of the Jedi set:

VC66 SALACIOUS CRUMB - exclusive to the Death Star
VC67 MOUSE DROID - exclusive to the Death Star

So those two little guys are indeed part of the numbering system.

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2011, 02:14 PM
Good call Ryan.  Nice sleuthing. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 26, 2011, 02:18 PM
And since they are part of the numbering system, I'd bet good money that they will turn up again in some fashion. Perhaps not as part of the Revenge Death Star set, but perhaps as a different exclusive for another show. New York Comic Con perhaps?

Maybe a 2-pack deal like they did with the Vintage Kenner deco 4-LOM and Zuckass. Only this time, have the two little guys on "Return of the Jedi" cardbacks.

Just a thought...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 26, 2011, 02:31 PM
Good call Ryan.  Nice sleuthing. :)

I really hate Hasbro right now.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2011, 02:34 PM
Because it affects the numbering you mean?

Yeah I figured that'd annoy a LOT of folks.  Maybe Pete's right though?

I've never really cared about the numbering stuff like other folks do, I just tear into stuff, but I can see where that's a thorn.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 26, 2011, 02:42 PM
Because it affects the numbering you mean?

Yeah I figured that'd annoy a LOT of folks.

Yes. Why not offer those 2 special numbers like they did for the Exclusive 4-LOM/Zuckuss (VCP01 and VCP02) and the Mailaway Fett (VCP03)?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2011, 02:45 PM
I agree, that's something so completely unnecessary to do...  Just give an exclusive numbering to them, or simply don't even count them at all.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 26, 2011, 02:49 PM
I'm actually surprised/shocked, that these two little guys aren't VCP04 and VCP05 - that's what they should be - with the White Outfit Fett being VCP06.

Otherwise, what is the point of the VCP## designations?

This is going to be one of those situations where the holes in numbers of folks' collections is going to push them in the direction of making some more of the vintage carded Mouse Droid and Salacious Crumb.

One of the things that leads me to believe that this will happen is that I had always thought that Endor Han, Slave Leia, TIE Fighter Pilot and B-Wing Pilot were all going to be released on "Revenge of the Jedi" cardbacks in the Wave 8 assortments.

But based on the panel and some news I read on various sites, unless I misunderstood, it looks like if you find a B-Wing pilot case (for example), you have just as much chance of getting him on a "Return of the Jedi" cardback as you do getting him on a "Revenge of the Jedi" cardback. So if you can get Leia, Endor Han, TIE Pilot and B-Wing Pilot on "Return" cards, why not have an outlet for getting the Mouse Droid and Salacious Crumb on "Return" cards?

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on July 26, 2011, 03:06 PM
I guess that means that the Prototype Fett is the third gap (VC61?).
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 26, 2011, 03:36 PM
I guess that means that the Prototype Fett is the third gap (VC61?).

He might be in there, but I'm inclined to think that those spaces in the numbering are Nom Anor, the 501st Trooper, Aayla Secura, Dr. Evazan, Kithaba and a yet unknown sixth wave mate.

Since waves 6 and 7 had six figures each, it is a safe assumption that originally, they planned on the original Wave 8 having the same number.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on August 1, 2011, 12:36 PM
I guess that means that the Prototype Fett is the third gap (VC61?).

Yep (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=4653781&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&vc=1)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 1, 2011, 12:56 PM
And sure enough - the other five figures shown on the back of the card are Nom Anor, Kithaba, Dr. Evazan, Aayla Secura and the 501st Trooper.

Looks like the six figures in the "gap" have been identified!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 1, 2011, 01:03 PM
OK, so to recap -
  2011 VC56 - VC60 = pushed to 2012 (Aayla, Evazan, 501st, Nom, Kithaba)

  2011 VC61 Boba Fett (Prototype Armor) [Mail-Away]

  2011 VC62 Han Solo (in Trench Coat)
  2011 VC63 B-Wing Pilot (Keyan Farlander)
  2011 VC64 Princess Leia (Slave Outfit)
  2011 VC65 TIE Fighter Pilot
  2011 VC66 Salacious Crumb [SDCC 'Revenge' Death Star Box Set only]
  2011 VC67 Mouse Droid [SDCC 'Revenge' Death Star Box Set only]

  2011 VC68 Rebel Soldier (Echo Base Battle Gear)
  2011 VC69 Bastilla Shan (Knights of the Old Republic)
  2011 VC70 Ponda Baba (Walrus Man)

I am so glad that I am no longer collecting carded or I'd be even more upset about the HTS SDCC DS set fiasco last week...  :-X
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 1, 2011, 01:20 PM
I am so glad that I am no longer collecting carded or I'd be even more upset about the HTS SDCC DS set fiasco last week...  :-X

I think we will eventually see these two:

  2011 VC66 Salacious Crumb [SDCC 'Revenge' Death Star Box Set only]
  2011 VC67 Mouse Droid [SDCC 'Revenge' Death Star Box Set only]

In some other fashion - perhaps both the little guys will be released as a NYCC exclusives on "Return of the Jedi" cardbacks.

Since VC62 - VC65 are supposedly going to be released on BOTH "Revenge" and "Return" cardbacks in the Wave 8 and Wave 9 assortments, someone could focus on just getting the figures on "Return" cards since that IS what the movie was called. The "Revenge" stuff could just end up being extremely limited packaging variants.  :-\
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 1, 2011, 07:11 PM
I hope Colman's head didn't explode.   :-\
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2011, 03:11 PM
New DPCI/pricing from the Target computer from Yakface/BanthaSkull:

087-06-0269 Vintage Vehicles – $24.99
087-06-1732 Vintage Vehicle - $24.99
087-06-1736 CW Figure Collection - $19.99
087-06-1749 Vehicle Figure Scene Pack - $24.99
087-06-0320 Darth Maul double Lightsaber - $20.00
087-06-0765 Battlefields of Naboo - $29.99
087-06-0780 Attack Vehicles - $24.99
087-06-0920 Villains and Sith- $14.99

Lots of "Vintage" in there - more kenner box repacks? (Cloud Car?  X-Wing? Vader's TIE?).  Or maybe nice "generic" ID's for what will turn out to the Search for Luke Taun-Taun BP or something...  I'm guessing we'll get a little more to all this at NYCC.

Also, that "Villians and Sith" has me wondering if that is supposed to be some "bad guy" version of the old Order 66 sets - instead of a Jedi and a Clone, you get a Sith and a separatist?  Or maybe this year's version of the exclusive carded CW 2-packs they've had in the past or something.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 18, 2011, 03:28 PM
The Villains & Sith sets sound potentially interesting.  But will they deliver?  Just brainstorming through some of the possibilities...

Holo Darth Sidious & Nute Gunray
Darth Maul & Destroyer Droid
Count Dooku & Super Battle Droid
Asajj Ventress & Tactical Droid
Darth Sidious & Shock Trooper
Darth Vader & Stormtrooper
Emporer Palpatine & Royal Guard
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: warinthefloor on August 18, 2011, 03:31 PM
so help me if they put the new royal guard out that way so we have to end up with 6 emperors.....
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on August 18, 2011, 08:17 PM
Does this one correspond to anythjng shown at SDCC:

087-06-1736 CW Figure Collection - $19.99


I can't recall but am thinking not. Seems like maybe another exclusive BP?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 18, 2011, 09:13 PM
I'm vaguely intrigued by that vague pricing list.

I knew Naboo battle would be $30. If it includes 4 battle droids, a gungan, Tarpals and the Kaadu...not bad. Only 2 droids...wait for clearance.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on August 18, 2011, 09:30 PM
I am thinking that one of those vintage vehicles is the Naboo Starfighter. I am a feeling.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: iFett on August 19, 2011, 10:02 AM
I am thinking that one of those vintage vehicles is the Naboo Starfighter. I am a feeling.

Ya that thing hasn't been out in over 10 years which I find odd so I fully expect to see it back on shelves soon.  LEGO just put one out.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 19, 2011, 10:06 AM
I was talking about this with Derryl DePriest at SDCC a couple of years back, and he agreed that it had been a while since the N-1 starfighter had been available.  We talked about the possibility of one in blue deco since it appears that way in a video game, but that seemed like a non-starter.  And the notion of doing vac-metal was discussed too.  But that might be too costly of a process to do for a vehicle, especially since it's not the whole vehicle.  Doing vac metal parts can be tricky.  I don't remember if we talked about a functional droid socket, but the fuselage of the N-1 makes it kind of prohibitive.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2011, 11:49 AM
I am thinking that one of those vintage vehicles is the Naboo Starfighter. I am a feeling.

Considering that they have all-but already confirmed a new Naboo Starfighter for the E1 stuff, I wouldn't be surprised either. :P

From a recent Q&A session at Imperial Shipyards (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=192.msg115088#msg115088):

"Yes, Episode I in 3-D allows for a number of favorite vehicles to be added to the line.  Sadly, the Royal Starship and Emperor's Shuttle did not make the list.  But we think fans will be pleased with the line-up which includes a 100% newly tooled iconic vehicle.  We would be sharing too much information if we were to say that it is a yellow starfighter that rhymes with shampoo."
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 19, 2011, 12:00 PM
The Episode I line is probably how Hasbro is going to introduce the brown/green repaint of the current incarnation of the Vulture Droid.  Hasbro did say a while back that they would be repainting the Super Vulture Droid in Episode I era deco.

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87968lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: warinthefloor on August 19, 2011, 01:48 PM
fapfapfapfap
vac metal Royal naboo starship
fapfapfapfap
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on August 19, 2011, 11:02 PM
Can we get a Droid Battleship?  Yeah, I know the answer.  No.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2011, 11:50 PM
Vac-Metal/Electro-plating isn't cheap, and doesn't work on all plastic types, so I'd REALLY be surprised if they were even considering a vac-metaled Royal Starship.  Just my $.02 on that...  I could see a re-issue, maybe a better more shiney paint/deco on it or something, but Vac-Metal doesn't seem likely.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 19, 2011, 11:53 PM
They've denied the Royal Starship anyway.

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Sadly, the Royal Starship and Emperor's Shuttle did not make the list.  But we think fans will be pleased with the line-up which includes a 100% newly tooled iconic vehicle.


BONGO SUB!! WOOO

Oh, yeah...that's right...it's the Naboo Fighter.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 20, 2011, 12:50 PM
Another potential Episode I vehicle reissue:  the Sith Infiltrator.  It hasn't been on shelves since 2008, and that might have been enough of a break for Hasbro to consider giving it another go 'round. 

As much as I'd like to see the Sith Infiltrator given the BMF vehicle treatment, I think they will probably want to try getting more mileage out of the existing Sith Infiltrator tooling.  But the flipside is if Hasbro doesn't upgrade the Sith Infiltrator now, will they ever do it?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on August 20, 2011, 03:49 PM
The Villains & Sith sets sound potentially interesting.  But will they deliver?  Just brainstorming through some of the possibilities...

Holo Darth Sidious & Nute Gunray
Darth Maul & Destroyer Droid
Count Dooku & Super Battle Droid
Asajj Ventress & Tactical Droid
Darth Sidious & Shock Trooper
Darth Vader & Stormtrooper
Emporer Palpatine & Royal Guard

A new Gunray better be in one of them since he's the only villian other than Sidious to appear in all three prequels. (Unless you count the other Neimoidian in AOTC to be Haako.)

I like your idea with holo Sidious, and they should throw in the mechno-chair, with a new chair part for Gunray.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 20, 2011, 06:01 PM
Assuming those Sith and Villains are Vintage/Realistic and not Clone Wars packs. They'd either be one of the other.

I'd lean towards CW...they'd want to milk the new Savage Oppress sculpts...plus they could reissue Sidious...

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2011, 12:48 AM
Don't want to post this with its own thread yet, though if the powers that be want to they can.

Anyway, if you hate Jar Jar binks, the JD Front Page (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1316492996,75878,) has bad news for you, and 2012.  :-X
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Diddly on September 20, 2011, 01:12 AM
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO :D

Now get me an SA "normal" Anakin and I'm one happy collector
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2011, 01:50 AM
I'm betting yes on that too.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on September 20, 2011, 08:15 AM
Don't want to post this with its own thread yet, though if the powers that be want to they can.

Anyway, if you hate Jar Jar binks, the JD Front Page (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1316492996,75878,) has bad news for you, and 2012.  :-X

That's it. I'm done collecting if they are going to make the first new movie Jar Jar Binks since 2002. Of all the characters they could make or remake for the Episode 1 rerelease, they are going to make one of the lead characters who had a lot of screen time and hasn't been updated in 10 years?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Greg on September 20, 2011, 08:24 AM
I can't wait. Jar Jar is freakin awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth_sidious on September 30, 2011, 11:20 AM
In the most recent Rebelscum Force Cast Collector Edition (Sept 2011), DePriest mentioned that they have a Nightsister called Mighella sculpted, and she could be released in the vintage line. I'd be happy to welcome any Nightsister, whether it be realistic or animated, but I figured we'd see Mother Talzin first.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on September 30, 2011, 11:26 AM
Maybe she'll be packed with another Shirtless Maul (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:TheDeathofMighella.jpg) and sold in one of those rumor Sith/Villains Two Pack Target he supposed to get?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on September 30, 2011, 09:07 PM
I'd buy a Nightsister...not sure why they wouldn't make one for CW too though
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 1, 2011, 12:57 AM
I'd buy a Nightsister...not sure why they wouldn't make one for CW too though

Hasbro did say awhile back that they'd be making plenty of figures from the Savage arc of episodes. NY Toy Fair will tell, most likely.

I just hope that those Villains sets are realistically-styled. And not cheesy like the Toys R Us 2-packs from last year, which included Anakin/Vader, Lil' Boba/Bad-ass Boba, and Grievous.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on October 1, 2011, 08:39 AM
I'd buy a Nightsister...not sure why they wouldn't make one for CW too though

Well, exactly! What the hell? They are so hung up on "core characters" let them stick with those. If they put out cool characters in a realistic style that have NOT been done in the animated style, well that just utterly sucks.

Animated first, realistic next. Don't deprive fans of the animated line great character choices for the sake of marketing.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 1, 2011, 09:20 PM
I finally listened to the ForceCast, and I gotta say that what scares me the most is that the "distribution problem" seems to be only acknowledged for the Vintage Collection.

What about the massive amounts of older Clone Wars figures, repackaged in the SotDS packaging now clogging the pegs, keeping retailers from ordering more of the three Fall 2011 waves?

If it weren't for the display cubes that TRU got a few weeks back, I wouldn't have ANY of the figures from the three new waves.

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 2, 2011, 12:35 AM
I kind of like the idea that, if they're going to do more "sub characters" from TCW that they figure kids aren't as interested in, then realistic does maybe make a little more sense...  That's just me though maybe.  I like the strategy though.  I mean, would Yularren have tanked as badly had he been a realistic figure?  I tend to think not...  He probably wouldn't have been great, but with your core purchasers being kids, the "old guy with a table and brostache" probably would've just done better if he were not in the animated style.  I know I'd have probably army built him to a slight degree.  Hell, I got a few for the table on clearance.  Realistic, I'd have probably bought a few just to swap some Clone heads onto him even, and make realistic Clone Naval Officers.

I think of other figures I DID pass on though, since animated isn't my cup of tea, and I'd have gladly bought if they were done realistically.  The little scottish underbite alien general from TCW Movie for instance...  Cato Parasitti is everywhere here right now, but also strikes me as one I'd have gone for if done realistically (I got one cheap for customizing, but wouldnt' pay full price for her).  I'd buy a realistic Satine before I'd even remotely consider an animated figure.  Kids wouldn't care about her, but if she fits in with the movie figures, then I do I guess.  I just figure "I" am maybe what Hasbro's aiming for.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 5, 2011, 01:04 PM
I kind of like the idea that, if they're going to do more "sub characters" from TCW that they figure kids aren't as interested in, then realistic does maybe make a little more sense...  That's just me though maybe.  I like the strategy though.  I mean, would Yularren have tanked as badly had he been a realistic figure?  I tend to think not...  He probably wouldn't have been great, but with your core purchasers being kids, the "old guy with a table and brostache" probably would've just done better if he were not in the animated style.  I know I'd have probably army built him to a slight degree.  Hell, I got a few for the table on clearance.  Realistic, I'd have probably bought a few just to swap some Clone heads onto him even, and make realistic Clone Naval Officers.

I think of other figures I DID pass on though, since animated isn't my cup of tea, and I'd have gladly bought if they were done realistically.  The little scottish underbite alien general from TCW Movie for instance...  Cato Parasitti is everywhere here right now, but also strikes me as one I'd have gone for if done realistically (I got one cheap for customizing, but wouldnt' pay full price for her).  I'd buy a realistic Satine before I'd even remotely consider an animated figure.  Kids wouldn't care about her, but if she fits in with the movie figures, then I do I guess.  I just figure "I" am maybe what Hasbro's aiming for.

You're not alone on this Jesse - if realistic is how we get a Satine, then I'm totally okay with that, same thing goes with the Nightsisters. Same thing goes with Yularen - if he had been realistic, then I would have totally used him to make a few Clonetrooper Naval Officer headswaps - had thought about doing that with the animated one, but the damn figure is so damn skinny it just looks ridiculous so I never bothered.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 5, 2011, 01:51 PM
A realistic Yularren makes me think about all the random "That makes sense" headswaps I would've done too...  I could have seen Dodonna as a Republic Officer.  I'd have maybe swapped on a Tarkin head too since I like the idea of him as a young officer and stuff too from the finale last season.  A couple random generics would've been nice too since I envision a pretty good number of sentient guys who were in the Republic military prior to the war.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on October 5, 2011, 02:15 PM
I'd buy a Nightsister...not sure why they wouldn't make one for CW too though
Hasbro did say awhile back that they'd be making plenty of figures from the Savage arc of episodes. NY Toy Fair will tell, most likely.
If they put out cool characters in a realistic style that have NOT been done in the animated style, well that just utterly sucks.
I kind of like the idea that, if they're going to do more "sub characters" from TCW that they figure kids aren't as interested in, then realistic does maybe make a little more sense... 

Um, I'm a little late to this party, but I'd like to add that Mighella the Nightsister is not from the cartoon.  If its the same one that I am remembering, then she is from the Dark Horse Darth Maul comic series from shortly after TPM:

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090924041844/starwars/images/thumb/d/d3/MighellaGaryn.jpg/220px-MighellaGaryn.jpg)
linky to wiki page (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mighella)

Jayson's guess of pairing her with some sort of Darth Maul figure in those rumored 2-packs is a good guess and makes a lot of sense based on the source.

She is not a CW character made in the realistic style instead of the animated style.  I do not see how Hasbro making a realistic EU Nightsister figure based on an EU comic source can be any sort of basis to assume that they may give us a realistic Dutchess Satine or other CW something before making the animated version.

[/end party pooping] :P
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 5, 2011, 02:19 PM
It wasn't speculation really, more just daydreaming about how (if they do a nightsister from the toon animated), more of the secondary guys from the toon maybe would've been cooler and better received by the target audience that cares about them (IE: Not kids).

Though, i did think when a Nightsister is being tossed around like that, that it's from the toon and not a comic. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 6, 2011, 01:46 PM
I'm from the camp where I really don't care where the Nightsister figure basis comes from. It could be from the comics, it could be from the Clone Wars 3D cartoon, or it could be from the "Courtship of Princess Leia" novel. I just think they are a cool faction in the Star Wars universe that has never been represented as a figure. I felt the same way about the Bothans until they put one in a comic pack a few years ago...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on October 6, 2011, 02:38 PM
Hmmm.  A nightsister figure, done in a realistic style?  And if it is indeed Mighella , then I'm thinking it will probably be in those previously rumored Sith & Villain 2-packs.  And under those circumstances she'll almost certainly be packed with Darth Maul.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on October 6, 2011, 05:00 PM
I'm fine with them doing an EU-inspired Nightsister in realistic style, although it seems like sort of an obscure choice. I just hope that doesn't preclude them from doing the ones from the toon in the animated line. There's plenty of room for Nightsisters in both lines.  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 14, 2011, 03:13 AM
Wait, so Hasbro made a sculpt for that Nightsister - Mighella? That's shocking. She's an EU character, and from a comic, too, and Hasbro actually chose her over, say, Mother Talzin? I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on October 14, 2011, 09:45 AM
I thought there was something familar looking about Mighella...

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081205061530/starwars/images/thumb/b/bc/Mighella-tattoos.jpg/250px-Mighella-tattoos.jpg)

And then it hit me...

(http://robpetkau.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/peter-criss.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on October 14, 2011, 11:20 AM
Wait, so Hasbro made a sculpt for that Nightsister - Mighella? That's shocking. She's an EU character, and from a comic, too, and Hasbro actually chose her over, say, Mother Talzin? I'm shocked.
It just means that she was slated for a comic pack before the line was cancelled. And since they already had the sculpt they are putting her out. Just like Nom Anor.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on October 14, 2011, 11:30 AM
People are thinking that we are going to see Darth Malgus based on a glimpse of a lightsaber in some pics. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on October 14, 2011, 12:24 PM
And his shoulders, arm, and side of his head.

http://www.banthaskull.com/images/NYCC11/nycc11_043.jpg (http://www.banthaskull.com/images/NYCC11/nycc11_043.jpg)
Upper left corner.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on October 14, 2011, 12:35 PM
ah yes, I see it now that you pointed it out - before all I really saw when I looked at that pic was the lightsaber.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: ZevZev on October 15, 2011, 10:26 AM
People are thinking that we are going to see Darth Malgus based on a glimpse of a lightsaber in some pics.

And they were right. I wonder how much EU stuff will be TOR now.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on October 30, 2011, 10:12 PM
As posted by Stan at the otheR place:

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So let me speed you awaY AND SHARE SOME PRETY GOOD STUFF, great battle paks, you cant go wrong with Royal Guards, Weequay, Ree-yees, Grand Moff Tarkin, Han Carbonite, Bespin leia and lobot. Not foRget about the plantet of Yavin some great figures combo on its waY!!! LOOK LIKE HASBRO HAS FOUND A PARTNER FOR THE SLAVE-1 , WITH A BESPIN GUARD and other figures to make this set complete. Hear hoping for the snow speeeder of Wedge and Janson. Mesa look glad to Jar Jar on card later in 2012 . A yes there is a hint on the next BMF in what just report on!!!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on October 30, 2011, 10:31 PM
Bump...hey he did get that Lando Skiff and Luke Hoth were coming!

Just doing some stan math.... 7 out of 30 for late 2010-2011...that is less than 25% right...

Death Squad Commander
Emperor
Nien Numb
Nikto
Han in Carbonite
bespin guard
New Boba Fett
Grand Moff Tarkin
Captain and Adimeral Piett.
Uncle Owen
Logray
Luke(Dagobah Training)
2-1B
Rebel Fleet Trooper
EG-6 (Gonk droid)
Toryrn Farr
Lando in skiff disquise
Sim Aloo
Hammerhead
Sandtrooper
Yerka Mig
Sarissa Jeng
Sar Labooda
Anakin  (Arena)
Padme (Arena)
Luke (Hoth)
Wicket
Zam Wessel
Count Dooku
Widdle/Ochee
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on October 30, 2011, 10:32 PM
Also, Grand Moff Tarkin, Ree Yees and Weequay were all confirmed in the q&A already
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 31, 2011, 12:33 AM
Meh...I could be more accurate than him if I gave a damn.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2011, 12:38 AM
Is the Jar Jar rumor implying Vinty or what?  He's coming in the Movie Heroes line, which that figure jived pretty well (from what I saw) with our rumor report prior to NYCC.  Jar Jar is already coming out in 2012 though, as we saw at NYCC, so that's confusing.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on October 31, 2011, 09:45 AM
It's funny how much creedence whatever Stan says is given at otheR places.  Sometimes it does seem like he throws a bunch of s**t at a wall, and hopefully some of it will stick.  And there's always this caveat he offers up that "things are always changing from Hasbro" which is used to seperate himself from his prognostications.

Personally, I think that his account may very well be used by someone within Hasbro in order to send up trial balloons in a forum setting so that the Star Wars team can conduct some market research.  But it also seems like something that can be used to stir the proverbial pot, too.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on October 31, 2011, 10:58 AM
New Boba Fett

Maybe Boba is the Mail-Away? Unless he means Lil' Boba.

I'd love a Hammerhead on a Vintage card. I think all Star Wars figures need the vintage treatment.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on October 31, 2011, 02:15 PM
Is the Jar Jar rumor implying Vinty or what?  He's coming in the Movie Heroes line, which that figure jived pretty well (from what I saw) with our rumor report prior to NYCC.  Jar Jar is already coming out in 2012 though, as we saw at NYCC, so that's confusing.
I've been expecting there to be a vintage Jar Jar since I saw the MH one. We knew back in 2010 that there was Jar Jar planned for early 2011 but got pushed back because of the 3D release. I had assumed at SDCC when it wasn't shown to be in the 2012 TPM wave that it had been moved into MH but that one is obviously not it.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2011, 09:26 PM
Read this hooplah at the otheR Site, and kee-rist...  ::)

"tarkin's been rumored a while, but this pretty much seals it!"

Seriously?  This is what you needed for confirmation?

I see why there's such excitement over there.  Half the people seem a bit late to the party.

And will anyone honestly be shocked at a repaint of Slave-I or the Snowspeeder happening?  Isn't that easy to assume?  I didn't buy Slave-I, but wasn't it designed with a hold for a Carbonite block?  And the Snowspeeder's designed to have the removable armor panel and stuff.  :-\  Eh, whatever.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: stan on October 31, 2011, 11:42 PM
Hooplah!!!!! otheR Site, and kee-rist... ::)  I have to agree with everyone comments, you casn throw stiuff at wall eventually anything will stick!!! Jar is comng though on
regular card, take for what it worth...party invitation!!!! 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on November 2, 2011, 12:51 AM
I put no stock in the rumors (remember the non-Stan rumor list with Clone Wars stuff like Captain Tarkin?), and not even that much  in Hasbro's Q&A responses...because plans change. Look at how much got 2011 stuff shoved into 2012.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on December 19, 2011, 08:40 AM
1 + 2 = Sail Barge?

This probably just wishful thinking of me, but when I see 2 Jabba themed (Palace/Sarlacc) Lego playsets being debuted it gets my wishful thinking going...  Could we be getting a Sail Barge this year?

I realize this is the year of TPM, but maybe...  just maybe...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: iFett on December 19, 2011, 07:47 PM
I doubt it, but Hasbro has been taking note of LEGO vehicle releases as of late which is odd so who knows.  I'd still bank on 2018 or whenever that darned Jedi movie is supposed to hit theaters again.

I also see some Old Republic LEGO stuff coming out so hopefully Hasbro will bite on at least one or two of those.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on December 19, 2011, 08:00 PM
I can't see any video game vehicles being made.

We all know the big vehicle next year is the Gungan Bongo Sub.  :P
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on January 24, 2012, 11:03 AM
Sounds like Hasbro is going to unveil three new Vintage Collection figures at UK Toy Fair today...   anyone want to play "guess the figures?"

I'll go with Tarkin, Luke and a new Wookiee.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2012, 12:54 PM
Tweets indicate two are EU and one is ROTJ

Ree Yees, Ahsoka Realistic and Darth Plagueius
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 12:55 PM
I'll go with Vintage Nikto, Someone from TOR, and a Wookiee as well.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2012, 02:08 PM
Tweets indicate two are EU and one is ROTJ

Ree Yees, Ahsoka Realistic and Darth Plagueius

Sounds kind of cool.  I was sort of hoping they'd do a new Ree Yees (especially after seeing the detail they put into the Senator from ROTS), and a realistic Ahsoka should be a popular figure.  Not sure if I care much about Darth Plagueius, although I understand why they would make one.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 24, 2012, 02:58 PM
this sounds like a hint of the new figures from user Guardian over at RS:

Quote
I have not seen a reeyess or yaface, but they are putting out a new weequay, lumat, and 2 more rotj rebels. Both have been made before in POTF time. One has had his brother made in the BAF line. He had 2 eyes though.

Id say the EU figure they will show today is the Female bounty hunter from the new game as she was coming this year.

so one is pruneface if this is accurate
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 03:00 PM
Dressel Rebel just pooped his pants.  I'm down for a new Orrimarko for sure.  Be extra cool if the patch were removable and he had some funky scarring, but I can live without that too.  :)  It'll just be cool getting the other color cloak IMO.  Loved that last Dressellian Commando and army built the shizzle out of him.

Could the other Rebel be a human in the vest ala the Saga figure, but using Col. McCracken's upper body or something?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on January 24, 2012, 03:31 PM
Why all the UK eyewitness accounts but no pictures?

I know they try to be super militant about that stuff, but I seem to recall we got a lot of good shots of the AT-AT when they premiered that over there...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 03:35 PM
It's possible that these things are being said but not pictured.  UK Toy Fair generally doesn't have the same ammount of stuff to show, as US Toy Fair does anyway, so it's possible the reps there are just saying this figure or that figure are coming out.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on January 24, 2012, 04:03 PM
If we get a Prunce Face, Hasbro needs to do a whole new sculpt on the head.  That Legacy one was really bad compared to most other alien sculpts.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 04:07 PM
Really?  I rather liked it a lot...  Compare it to the mask stills and I think you'll be shocked.  I think it's more that the mask is ****, and the paintjob on the eyes was almost always off on that too.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 24, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dressel Rebel just pooped his pants. 

And I have been eating a crazy amount of fiber lately, it's really a hair trigger in the first place.  A new dresselian figure is overkill.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on January 24, 2012, 05:37 PM
Really?  I rather liked it a lot...  Compare it to the mask stills and I think you'll be shocked.  I think it's more that the mask is ****, and the paintjob on the eyes was almost always off on that too.

Yeah, I felt from the neck up, that it was a step back from the POTF2 eye patch one.  I got rid all my Legacy heads of this figure.  I might even have sent them to Dressel, I can't honestly remember.  Maybe if Hasbro had painted the head with a wash, I would have liked it better, I don't know.  I just feel like they usually hit alien head sculpts out of the park, but on that occasion they didn't do the figure justice, as least for what I'm used to seeing.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 24, 2012, 06:01 PM
here are the new figures....  http://www.jedinews.co.uk/

Vintage Nikto = awesome!  hopefully the finished product will give him a bit of a wash though - this one looks too clean
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 24, 2012, 06:10 PM
I am telling you, with all of the Jabba Goons  - I am putting down the bet that the Sail barge will follow the MTT!

I hope.....
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 06:38 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_JNUKReveal01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_JNUKReveal02_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/012Vin_JNUKReveal03_TN.jpg)

I like all three well enough, but really another Galen Marek?  Force Unleashed wasn't that great, not by a longshot.  Force Unleashed II was, by most accounts, far worse for one reason or another, or several.  I just don't get them going with this guy, yet again.  I am pretty much TFU'd out at this point.  It made some cool figures and I was happy if they'd have just packed up and moved on, especially since Hasbro themselves said they were moving on from TFU.

That said...

Now I want some bonus points. :)  I got the vintage Nikto and TOR as an EU figure right.  ;D

Vintage Nikto is all kinds of awesome and pretty well needed.  It really makes me hope for updates of the rest of the old Battlepack now, as they're all looking very dated next to my new goons.

Shae Vizla I'm pretty giddy to get.  I like Bounty Hunters (who doesn't?), and she was pretty rockin' in the trailers to the game, and her figure looks really impressive too.  TOR is the only thing I'm truly intrigued to see in 2012...  I really want them to delve into that, as it's pretty vast and I can handle lots of EU from an era so far removed from the films and main characters.

Marek's cool too, very "ultimate" with all that gear and most of it being removable, I just really didn't feel I needed that figure and could've easily stomached another new TOR character or OT update/new character.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on January 24, 2012, 07:07 PM
Hey, it's Aiden from  BEING HUMAN.

Nikto...yeah...can some one toss us a new skiff at least until the sail barge gets made?

I won't be getting Shae Vizla...because I'll never see one, never saw Bastilla Shan. Why would this be any different?

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
MMMMMMmmmmm  New skiff.

Maybe we'll get a new one ala the N1 when ROTJ3D rolls out.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scockery on January 24, 2012, 07:18 PM
MMMMMMmmmmm  New skiff.

Maybe we'll get a new one ala the N1 when ROTJ3D rolls out.

By then it'll be a $50 vehicle....$70 if it's a Toys R Us exclusive.  :P
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 07:24 PM
I think that's conservative.  ::)  And paint aps will be down to a "paint by number" thing with a little set of paints and a brush in the set, all watercolors.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darby on January 24, 2012, 07:39 PM
Cool all around.  The Nikto was a nice surprise.  Didn't expect him honestly.  Very excited to see the rest of the Vintage slate this year. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on January 24, 2012, 07:52 PM
The Nikto looks pretty cool.  Hasbro already confirmed that one, IIRC.  It's definitely a welcome addition to Jabba's goons. 

The new Galen Marek is a little bit of a surprise, but a cool new EU offering.  The accessories look pretty awesome.  Is all of that actually going to fit in a TVC blister?  My only gripe here is the timing.  I really think that Hasbro would have a lot more success with these EU video game figures if they could get their release schedule synced up with the game releases.

Which brings me to Shae Viszla.  Pretty awesome that Hasbro managed in this case to offer up a video game figure that IS well timed with the game release.  Granted, we saw Shae in that Deceived trailer going back close to 2 years.  And with the lead time on a new figure being about 18 months I'm glad to see that they took advantage of all of this lead time to get the figure ready.  I'm still surprised that it took LucasArts so long to bring this game to market.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2012, 08:53 PM
The Nikto is very cool, and like Darby mentioned, I'm really looking forward to learning more about the rest of the TVC slate for this year.  Seems to be shaping up to be a nicely rounded line.  I'm actually surprised at how many EU figures have been shown/announced so far (not even counting the deleted scene stuff), cool for people who are looking for more of that since the comic packs went away. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on January 24, 2012, 09:05 PM
Viszla and Marek are amazing and very welcome.  The Nikto is cool too, but I have to admit he's pretty bland by comparison.  But it's all good.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2012, 10:40 PM
Awesome on the Nikto...another one bites the dust
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 10:58 PM
Vizla and Nikto were my picks for coolness... I like Marek, I just don't see the point.  You've done umpteen of him, his games are either mediocre or weak efforts...  Time to put that one away.  Put taht kind of effort into Katarn.  He's about as relevant and his games/story were much more popular at their time.

He does come with cool stuff though.  That's about the minimum I'd want to be content between the price and all.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on January 24, 2012, 11:05 PM
I like all three well enough, but really another Galen Marek?

I like Marek, I just don't see the point.  You've done umpteen of him, his games are either mediocre or weak efforts...  Time to put that one away.  Put taht kind of effort into Katarn.  He's about as relevant and his games/story were much more popular at their time.

Yeah, that was my thinking too.  He looks great... but isn't this like Galen Marek #7?  Tooling dollars are sparse, costs are going up, "we need to be careful about choices", blah blah blah and they give us this guy in one of the EU slots in 2012?  Seems like such a strange decision when there are so many other male video game characters they could have picked - Kyle Katarn, Dash Rendar, Carth, etc.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2012, 11:12 PM
Yeah, Katarn's like a personal thing for me but a Dark Forces one would certainly rock...  That said, I'd be equally happy with Carth Onassi for sure, or another KOTOR party character...  Likewise I'd be into them looking at another popular sector of the EU too that isn't really touched, or Dash Rendar since SOTE figures are pretty dated at this point.

How bout that friggin' Noghri?  ::)

Marek's a neat effort, but I can't say I was really upset with his other figures though.  I thought they were all kind of neat, nice articulation...  Sculpts maybe not perfectly accurate, but not horrific.  For me it's like Mara Jade...  Maybe a Jedi one of her would be neat, but honestly I'm ok with that comic one we got and don't necessarilly feel like I have to have a new one that's 100% accurate to Shannon Baksa's look or whatever.  Some stuff I just hate to see them go to, so soon after they went to it already and didn't really waste the effort. 

Hell i'm even ok with Katarn as he is, and would only want a new Katarn if it was a purely Dark Forces looking Katarn, sans beard and with the coat and body armor.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 24, 2012, 11:26 PM
Sick of Marek to be honest.  I don't really mind EU but I really wish they would move past certain characters and produce some others on people's short lists.  Maybe Guri for instance?  Nomi Sunrider? Please not another damn clonetrooper either.  Anyway, love the Nikto!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 25, 2012, 12:19 AM
I like all three.  If I can find them, I'll buy them.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Diddly on January 25, 2012, 02:34 AM
Count me in on the Nikto-Loving Bandwagon, along with the "Galen Marek AGAIN?!?" Bandwagon. I'll probably pass on the TOR chick too, although if I ever play the game I might change my stance.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 25, 2012, 09:07 AM
She reminds me of a GI Joe.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 25, 2012, 09:50 AM
That Nikto is a nice surprise. Love checking exact characters off the vintage list.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on January 25, 2012, 10:26 AM
She reminds me of a GI Joe.

I was thinking Halo, but yeah...

I must be the only person who liked the Force Unleashed game.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 25, 2012, 10:40 AM
Somebody must have considering how many figures Hasbro made for that game.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: jedipurge on January 25, 2012, 04:20 PM
She reminds me of a GI Joe.

I was thinking Halo, but yeah...

I must be the only person who liked the Force Unleashed game.

make that 2 of us, i did a haleluyah-spelling-seeing that version of Galen.  sure the other one with all the straps and his sabers on his chest isn't far behind.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Paul on January 25, 2012, 05:19 PM
A female "Boba Fett' with red hair.  Wow, if they would have given her a bare midriff and tramp stamp, the fanboy-gasm would have melted the internet.

Total waste of plastic (as most EU and PT stuff is, sorry JJ).

Give me my Death Squad Commander and SA Hoth Luke and I can get off this roller coaster.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2012, 06:00 PM
I must be the only person who liked the Force Unleashed game.

I liked the first game, and most of the figures that have been made... apparently we're not the only ones when you consider the prices the TFU figures are now on ebay, and really none of the TFU stuff can be labeled as pegwarming, except perhaps the latest set, which was the weakest offering from TFU that Hasbro has put together. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 25, 2012, 06:01 PM
A female "Boba Fett' with red hair.  Wow, if they would have given her a bare midriff and tramp stamp, the fanboy-gasm would have melted the internet.


Just give me a second to jot this down in my notebook for custom figure ideas.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: EpicGon on January 25, 2012, 07:35 PM
Nikto is well depicted, good adaptation of vintage toy.

Galen shows lots of accesories

Shae looks accurated, but with her line of the game
comes again the problem of anachronism: the new characters
from the past wear more advanced armors than the Classic Trilogy
or even the PT.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2012, 09:00 PM
Give me my Death Squad Commander and SA Hoth Luke and I can get off this roller coaster.

No apologies...  I just like EU.  I'm not even as into PT stuff at this point...  EU is more interesting to me now actually.

But hold your horses on those other two being your lasts...  You cannot back out till:

-The Vintage Endor Rebel is updated
-The POTF2 Endor Rebel gets an update
-Rebel Ishi Tib gets an update
-Endor Home One Briefing Rebel Tech gets made
-Yavin Rebel Officers get made
-Captain Antilles (ANH) gets an SA update for a nice Fleet Officer figure
-Nik Sant gets a Rebel Commando figure
-Hoth Technicians/Taun Taun Wranglers get figures
-Fleet Troopers get head variations
-And we finally get some generic Stormtrooper Officers in black outfits like Praji

You're roped in there till the line's demise I think. :P
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on January 26, 2012, 10:30 AM
And the Tonnika Sisters.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on January 26, 2012, 10:52 AM
...and a Death Star playset.  Which means you'll die with your collection incomplete.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on January 26, 2012, 11:33 AM
and an updated Porkins!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Master_Phruby on January 26, 2012, 01:07 PM
An updated Ree-Yees, Nien Nunb, Lak Sivrak and Yak Face....

I still want my SOTE Guri !
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 26, 2012, 01:16 PM
Between the DS Playet and Tonnika Sisters Paul wouldn't ever be able to walk away.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: jedipurge on January 26, 2012, 08:37 PM
A female "Boba Fett' with red hair.  Wow, if they would have given her a bare midriff and tramp stamp, the fanboy-gasm would have melted the internet.


Just give me a second to jot this down in my notebook for custom figure ideas.

lmao if anyone could pull that off ur the man
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: jedipurge on January 26, 2012, 08:40 PM
Nikto is well depicted, good adaptation of vintage toy.

Galen shows lots of accesories

Shae looks accurated, but with her line of the game
comes again the problem of anachronism: the new characters
from the past wear more advanced armors than the Classic Trilogy
or even the PT.

i have a feeling there is some sort of DARK AGES between Old Republic and sometime before the OT, there just has to be right.  cuz really there's not much difference between the 2 era's
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on January 26, 2012, 08:54 PM
I want a Jabba's Palace Ishi Tib.  I think the Tonnika Sisters have a better shot than poor Ishi :(
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: jono on January 27, 2012, 06:21 AM
Wow! New Nikto!

Lumat, Weequay hunter and prune face are also rumoured for this year. :)




EDIT -Is anyone else getting a "We love ROTJ" vibe from the vintage collection?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Paul on January 27, 2012, 04:15 PM
Give me my Death Squad Commander and SA Hoth Luke and I can get off this roller coaster.

No apologies...  I just like EU.  I'm not even as into PT stuff at this point...  EU is more interesting to me now actually.

But hold your horses on those other two being your lasts...  You cannot back out till:

-The Vintage Endor Rebel is updated
-The POTF2 Endor Rebel gets an update
-Rebel Ishi Tib gets an update
-Endor Home One Briefing Rebel Tech gets made
-Yavin Rebel Officers get made
-Captain Antilles (ANH) gets an SA update for a nice Fleet Officer figure
-Nik Sant gets a Rebel Commando figure
-Hoth Technicians/Taun Taun Wranglers get figures
-Fleet Troopers get head variations
-And we finally get some generic Stormtrooper Officers in black outfits like Praji

You're roped in there till the line's demise I think. :P

Ah half that list would sucker me in a bit.  Remember it was the Hoth Rebel that kept me in a few years ago.

But also don't forget, I don't really care for the Cantina or Jabba's Palace scenes (I like them more than the PT) so Tonnika Sisters and Aliens are not high on my "stay in the game" list.. 

What you missed on the list though.. Super Articulated Biker Scout with Ball Jointed Hips to fit a proper Speederbike.  That would keep me in.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2012, 01:45 AM
Oh yeah!  Plus Hasbro did say to us they were into a new Bike complete with a floaty stand.

And you know that whole list would have you here.  Come on...  Lt. Sheckil didn't even make the list and you know that he'd make a cool figure too.

You'll be around.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 2, 2012, 12:49 PM
New rumor list from Hasbro UK via Curto over at RS...  link (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Vintage_Collection_2012_By_The_Numbers_143477.asp).

Quote
Here is a new list from Hasbro UK with the rundown of 2012's lineup for The Vintage Collection:
(figures in bold are NEW...from the best I can tell, anyway)

374994845
375144840 SW EPIII CLONE PILOT DAVIJAAN
375164840 SW EPIV GRAND MOFF TARKIN
375174840 SW EPVI NIKTO SKIFF GUARD
375184840 SW EU TFUII GALEN MAREK
375194840 SW EU TOR FEMALE BOUNTY HUNTER
385244840 SW CW AHSOKA
385254840 SW CW OBI WAN
396494840 SW EP1 JAR JAR
396504840 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
396514840 SW EPIII CLONE
396524840 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER
375124841 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA

37499484A
496894840 SW LANDO CALRISSIAN
375074840 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
396524840 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER
375124841 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA
396554840 SW EU REPUBLIC TROOPER
396494841 SW EP1 JAR JAR
396524841 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER
375124840 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA
396504841 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
396644840 SW EPVI DARTH VADER
396654840 SW EPVI ORRIMAARKO

37499484B
375014840 SW EP1 BEN QUADINAROS
496884840 SW PRINCESS LEIA
497044840 SW A-WING PILOT
375074840 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
385244840 SW CW AHSOKA
385254840 SW CW OBI WAN
396494841 SW EP1 JAR JAR
396504841 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
396644840 SW EPVI DARTH VADER
396644841 SW EPVI DARTH VADER
396514841 SW EPIII CLONE

37499484D
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375114840 SW EPV LUKE
985244840 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985254840 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985264840 SW VC60 501ST CLONE TROOPER
985274840 SW VC56 KITHABA
985284840 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
985294840 SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
985314840 SW VC71 MAWHONIC
985324840 SW VC73 AURRA SING
986924840 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
985334840 SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR

37499484E
375094840 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
985244840 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985254840 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985274840 SW VC56 KITHABA
985284840 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
985344840 SW VC51 BARISS OFFEE
985354840 SW VC50 BESPIN HAN
985364840 SW VC53 BOM VINDIN
985374840 SW VC54 ARC TROOPER COMMANDER
985394840 SW VC55 LOGRAY
986934840 SW VC21 GAMORREAN GUARD
985414840 SW VC52 REBEL FLEET TROOPER

UPDATE! New list below, with a few new figures revealed!


37499484G
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375094840 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
496874840 SW LUKE SKYWALKER
375074840 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375114840 SW EPV LUKE
985244840 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985254840 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985264840 SW VC60 501ST CLONE TROOPER
985274840 SW VC56 KITHABA
985284840 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
986924840 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE

37499484H
496874840 SW LUKE SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375114840 SW EPV LUKE
375134840 SW EU DARTH MALGUS
986924840 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
985344840 SW VC51 BARISS OFFEE
985364840 SW VC53 BOM VINDIN
375144840 SW EPIII CLONE PILOT DAVIJAAN
375164840 SW EPIV GRAND MOFF TARKIN
375174840 SW EPVI NIKTO SKIFF GUARD
375184840 SW EU TFUII GALEN MAREK
375194840 SW EU TOR FEMALE BOUNTY HUNTER

37499484J
985294840 SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
985314840 SW VC71 MAWHONIC
985324840 SW VC73 AURRA SING
985334840 SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR
985354840 SW VC50 BESPIN HAN
985374840 SW VC54 ARC TROOPER COMMANDER
385244840 SW CW AHSOKA
385254840 SW CW OBI WAN
385264840 SW EPVI LUMAT
385274840 SW EPVI ROYAL GUARD
396534840 SW EPVI NIEN NUNB
396544840 SW EPVI WEEQUAY HUNTER


37499484K
986934840 SW VC21 GAMORREAN GUARD
385254840 SW CW OBI WAN
385264840 SW EPVI LUMAT
396494840 SW EP1 JAR JAR
396504840 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
396514840 SW EPIII CLONE
396554840 SW EU REPUBLIC TROOPER
396524841 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER
375124840 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA
396654840 SW EPVI ORRIMAARKO
396644841 SW EPVI DARTH VADER
396514841 SW EPIII CLONE

374997380
269667380 SW EPI QUI-GON
375097380 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
269687380 SW EP1 OBI-WAN
269737380 SW VINTAGE FIG RATTS TYRELL & PIT DROID
307877380 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307917380 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375007380 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375017380 SW EP1 BEN QUADINAROS
375027380 SW EP1 DAULTAY DOFINE
375037380 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375047380 SW EP1 QUEEN AMIDALA
375067380 SW EP1 QUINLAN VOS


374997381
269667380 SW EPI QUI-GON
375097380 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
269687380 SW EP1 OBI-WAN
307877380 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307917380 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375007380 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375037380 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375077380 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375087380 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375107380 SW EPIV IMPERIAL NAVY COMMANDER
375117380 SW EPV LUKE
375137380 SW EU DARTH MALGUS


374997382
269667380 SW EPI QUI-GON
375097380 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
307877380 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307917380 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375007380 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375037380 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375067380 SW EP1 QUINLAN VOS
496877380 SW LUKE SKYWALKER
496887380 SW PRINCESS LEIA
496897380 SW LANDO CALRISSIAN
496907380 SW REBEL TROOPER
497047380 SW A-WING PILOT


374997383
985297380 SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
985317380 SW VC71 MAWHONIC
985327380 SW VC73 AURRA SING
986927380 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
985337380 SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR
985347380 SW VC51 BARISS OFFEE
985367380 SW VC53 BOM VINDIN
375147380 SW EPIII CLONE PILOT DAVIJAAN
375167380 SW EPIV GRAND MOFF TARKIN
375177380 SW EPVI NIKTO SKIFF GUARD
375187380 SW EU TFUII GALEN MAREK
375197380 SW EU TOR FEMALE BOUNTY HUNTER


37499738D
269667380 SW EPI QUI-GON
375117380 SW EPV LUKE
985247380 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985257380 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985267380 SW VC60 501ST CLONE TROOPER
985277380 SW VC56 KITHABA
985287380 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
985297380 SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
985317380 SW VC71 MAWHONIC
985327380 SW VC73 AURRA SING
986927380 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
985337380 SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR


37499738E
375097380 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
985247380 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985257380 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985277380 SW VC56 KITHABA
985287380 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
985347380 SW VC51 BARISS OFFEE
985357380 SW VC50 BESPIN HAN
985367380 SW VC53 BOM VINDIN
985377380 SW VC54 ARC TROOPER COMMANDER
985397380 SW VC55 LOGRAY
986937380 SW VC21 GAMORREAN GUARD
985417380 SW VC52 REBEL FLEET TROOPER

374994840
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375094840 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
269684840 SW EP1 OBI-WAN
269734840 SW VINTAGE FIG RATTS TYRELL & PIT DROID
307874840 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307914840 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375004840 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375014840 SW EP1 BEN QUADINAROS
375024840 SW EP1 DAULTAY DOFINE
375034840 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375044840 SW EP1 QUEEN AMIDALA
375064840 SW EP1 QUINLAN VOS


374994841
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375094840 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
269684840 SW EP1 OBI-WAN
307874840 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307914840 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375004840 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375034840 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375074840 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375104840 SW EPIV IMPERIAL NAVY COMMANDER
375114840 SW EPV LUKE
375134840 SW EU DARTH MALGUS


374994842
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375094840 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
307874840 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307914840 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375004840 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375034840 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375064840 SW EP1 QUINLAN VOS
496874840 SW LUKE SKYWALKER
496894840 SW LANDO CALRISSIAN
496884840 SW PRINCESS LEIA
496904840 SW REBEL TROOPER
497044840 SW A-WING PILOT


37499738H
496877380 SW LUKE SKYWALKER
375087380 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375117380 SW EPV LUKE
375137380 SW EU DARTH MALGUS
986927380 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
985347380 SW VC51 BARISS OFFEE
985367380 SW VC53 BOM VINDIN
375147380 SW EPIII CLONE PILOT DAVIJAAN
375167380 SW EPIV GRAND MOFF TARKIN
375177380 SW EPVI NIKTO SKIFF GUARD
375187380 SW EU TFUII GALEN MAREK
375197380 SW EU TOR FEMALE BOUNTY HUNTER


37499738G
269667380 SW EPI QUI-GON
375097380 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
496877380 SW LUKE SKYWALKER
375077380 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375087380 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375117380 SW EPV LUKE
985247380 SW VC58 AAYLA SECURA
985257380 SW VC59 NOM ANOR
985267380 SW VC60 501ST CLONE TROOPER
985277380 SW VC56 KITHABA
985287380 SW VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
986927380 SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE


37499738J
985297380 SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
985317380 SW VC71 MAWHONIC
985327380 SW VC73 AURRA SING
985337380 SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR
985357380 SW VC50 BESPIN HAN
985377380 SW VC54 ARC TROOPER COMMANDER
385247380 SW CW AHSOKA
385257380 SW CW OBI WAN
385267380 SW EPVI LUMAT
396537380 SW EPVI NIEN NUNB
396547380 SW EPVI WEEQUAY HUNTER
385277380 SW EPVI ROYAL GUARD

Not really sure what order they will come in, but lots of newness in there...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on February 2, 2012, 12:55 PM
Quote
Here is a new list from Hasbro UK with the rundown of 2012's lineup for The Vintage Collection:
(figures in bold are NEW...from the best I can tell, anyway)

37499484B
375014840 SW EP1 BEN QUADINAROS
496884840 SW PRINCESS LEIA
497044840 SW A-WING PILOT
375074840 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
385244840 SW CW AHSOKA
385254840 SW CW OBI WAN
396494841 SW EP1 JAR JAR
396504841 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
396644840 SW EPVI DARTH VADER
396644841 SW EPVI DARTH VADER

396514841 SW EPIII CLONE
 

I hope these aren't assortments. 3 Vaders? I guess another one has 2 Empire Leias.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 2, 2012, 12:59 PM
Hmmm... yeah, there are a number of figures that are showing up on there with different #s...  example:

396494841 SW EP1 JAR JAR
396494840 SW EP1 JAR JAR

396504840 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
396504841 SW EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT

396514840 SW EPIII CLONE
396514841 SW EPIII CLONE

396524841 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER
396524840 SW EPIV SANDTROOPER

375124841 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA
375124840 SW EPV PRINCESS LEIA

396644840 SW EPVI DARTH VADER
396644841 SW EPVI DARTH VADER

I wonder if that is just due to the way these things get entered into the computer or if it's some sort of sign that we're in for more "UGH" carded variants (or Revenge cards, or Foil Cards or whatever gimmick) this Fall?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on February 2, 2012, 01:01 PM
Yeah, I noticed the numbers were different. I understand them packing some double because they are popular. But you might be right, Jeff. Some kind of UGH promotion? Will be interesting to see. A question for Hasbro at ToyFair?

But I am definitely psyched about some of these!

EPIV GRAND MOFF TARKIN
EPVI NIKTO SKIFF GUARD
EP1 JAR JAR
EPV PRINCESS LEIA
LANDO CALRISSIAN (I wonder if these is the Skiff one or Empire?)
EPVI ORRIMAARKO
SW PRINCESS LEIA (Is this ANH?)
EPV LUKE
VC58 AAYLA SECURA
VC56 KITHABA
VC57 DR. CORNELIUS EVAZAN
SW VC72 NABOO PILOT W/DUSTER
SW VC71 MAWHONIC
SW VC73 AURRA SING
SW VC28 REBEL PILOT WEDGE
SW VC74 GUNGAN WARRIOR
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 2, 2012, 01:08 PM
Hmmm... closer inspection reveals that there are SIX with duplicate numbers (updated the list above).  And one from each movie...

EP1 JAR JAR
EPII CLONE LIEUTENANT
EPIII CLONE
EPIV SANDTROOPER
EPV PRINCESS LEIA
EPVI DARTH VADER

Hmmm.  A mystery, we have.


LANDO CALRISSIAN (I wonder if these is the Skiff one or Empire?)
SW PRINCESS LEIA (Is this ANH?)

These may just be carry-forwards of the delted scene sandstorm figures.  Same for "A-WING PILOT" that is on the list...  could be a repack of the mon cal version.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on February 2, 2012, 01:09 PM
Hey more sandtroopers!  ::)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on February 2, 2012, 01:18 PM
Forgot about the Mon Cal pilot... I'm excited!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2012, 02:12 PM
Interesting list(s) for sure, hopefully we'll get more clarification (and pics) at Toy Fair.  I wonder if this essentially covers the rest of the year (more or less) for TVC?  We already know the next few waves from the slides at NYCC/SDCC (if those stay in the same order and nothing switches around), and you would think those other TPM figures would maybe be hitting Fall-ish?  Looks like a pretty nice lineup overall though if true, with pretty good variety.  A little more Clone-heavy again the way it looks, but we'll see.  I figure the AOTC-themed line likely planned for next year would be another Clonestravaganza.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 02:43 PM
Sounding like a Colonel McCracken army, something you all should have, is gonna be hard to pull off.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 2, 2012, 03:32 PM
Looks like they updated to add more assortments...  I updated my post up above with the additions.

It's weird - a lot of those cases have the same contents, just different numbers.  If it's a Hasbro UK list, I wonder if some of those numbers are the US numbers, while others are the multi-language cards or something?  Or some other regional difference?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: bocrebjedi on February 2, 2012, 03:40 PM
I wonder if the EU Republic Trooper is supposed to be a TOR Republic Trooper.  That would make more sense.  Guess we'll see in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 03:54 PM
I can only imagine that EU Republic Trooper will be teh guy that kicks ass in the Alderaan Trailer for TOR.  That's my guess.

He's the badass of all badasses.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 2, 2012, 04:56 PM
That was quite a data dump.  Lots of interesting stuff to talk about.  But I can also foresee the inevitable comments that "there were no surprises at Toy Fair", too.

The EU Republic Trooper from TOR would be a nice addition to the basic figure line.  Although that character does seem to be based so much on the PT Clone Troopers that it's kind of funny.  As for TOR, I've been hoping that we'll get at least one of the Jedi from the trailers.  No luck there, yet.

BTW, since when did Odd Ball get this name Davijaan?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 2, 2012, 05:00 PM
A new Dresselian!!!!!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on February 2, 2012, 05:04 PM
exciting  :)

Lumat, Royal Guard, Nien Nunb, Weequay Hunter in same wave  :D plus Kithaba, and Nikto Guard in the same year  :D


EPV Princess Leia (Bespin Escape or Gown ?)
EPVI Vader (New Card ?)
EPIV Sandtrooper (New Card ? Orange Paudron? )
EPIII Clone Trooper (Barc Speeder repack ?)

Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 2, 2012, 05:55 PM
A new Dresselian!!!!!

I sense an Avatar update in the future...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 2, 2012, 05:56 PM
exciting  :)

Lumat, Royal Guard, Nien Nunb, Weequay Hunter in same wave  :D plus Kithaba, and Nikto Guard in the same year  :D


EPV Princess Leia (Bespin Escape or Gown ?)
EPVI Vader (New Card ?)
EPIV Sandtrooper (New Card ? Orange Paudron? )
EPIII Clone Trooper (Barc Speeder repack ?)

This Vader is the new upgraded one with BJ Wrists and Hips shown at SDCC.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on February 2, 2012, 06:04 PM

This Vader is the new upgraded one with BJ Wrists and Hips shown at SDCC.

Thats the EPIV version.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on February 2, 2012, 06:07 PM
Holy Balls! This is going to be an expensive year.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 2, 2012, 06:27 PM
so much awesomeness in those lists!!!!!
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 2, 2012, 06:28 PM


This Vader is the new upgraded one with BJ Wrists and Hips shown at SDCC.

Oh wow, I didn't realize Vader was getting those updates.  I MIGHT feel inclined to get a Vader.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darby on February 2, 2012, 07:29 PM
The Sandtrooper and Clone are ridiculous ideas so hopefully there's more to it.  Very impressive list overall.  Excited to see all the new figs at Toy Fair.  If this is it for 2012, then I'm only disappointed we will not get a new Slave Anakin from TPM.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2012, 08:57 PM
Trying to figure out how it all shakes out.  Not counting the current TPM wave, going from Hasbro's slides and this info, we've potentially got:

Wave 2
Luke Skywalker (Deleted Scene)
Princess Leia (Deleted Scene)
Lando Calrissian (Deleted Scene)
A-Wing Pilot (Deleted Scene)
Gen. McCracken (Deleted Scene)

Wave 3
Luke Skywalker (Hoth)
CW Anakin Skywalker
Imperial Navy Commander
Darth Vader (New)
Darth Malgus

Wave 4
Aayla Secura
Nom Anor
501st Trooper
Dr. Evazan
Wedge Antilles
Kithaba

Wave 5
Han Solo (Bespin)
Barriss Offee
Bom Vimdin
Rebel Fleet Trooper
Logray
ARC Commander
Gam. Guard

So that leaves the following (I think):

Clone Pilot Davijaan
Grand Moff Tarkin
Nikto Skiff Guard
Galen Marek
Tor Female Bounty Hunter
CW Ahsoka Tano
CW Obi-Wan Kenobi
Jar Jar Binks
Clone Lieutenant
Republic Trooper
Princess Leia (ESB)
Orrimaarko
Naboo Pilot
Aurra Sing
Gungan Warrior
Mawhonic
Lumat
Royal Guard
Nien Nunb
Weequay Hunter

Plus, a few that are questionable whether they are re-releases or new figures (Lando, Leia, A-Wing Pilot, etc.)  Overall, a nice lineup, if it holds up. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: McMetal on February 2, 2012, 09:49 PM
LOL, that's like 5 years of Clone Wars figures at the rate they are going now...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 09:54 PM
That's dreamy.

My favs on the list?

-Tarkin...  Long overdue.
-Doc Evazan...  Long overdue.
-Weequay Hunter...  Long overdue.
-EU Rep Trooper...  Pooping my pants for this.
-All realistic CW figures...  My shelf feels naked without them.
-TOR Bounty Hunter...  She's awesome.

Bear in mind that a lot of the figures listed there are really repacks too...  All the WM stuff.  That taken off there shorts that list tremendously.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JediMoses on February 2, 2012, 09:59 PM
Didn't they confirm 55 TVC figures for this year?  With the 12 TPM figs, this list gets them to 55, by my count.  But that includes the specific re-ship wave. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on February 2, 2012, 10:18 PM
A very nice looking list if it turns out to be true. Stoked for Nien Nunb finally, I've been passing for years on the old ones thinking they'd be making a new one anytime, that was a good couple years ago, hehehe. My only gripe is that it seems Evazan is the last Cantina dude for some time. Was hoping for 1 or 2 more. Jabba's Palace seems nicely represented though.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 2, 2012, 10:37 PM
This list gives me the willies now that I've read all the way through it.  It reads almost like a rock band's farewell tour.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on February 2, 2012, 10:49 PM
Nice!  I just hope they are not $15 price points by the time they come out. 
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on February 2, 2012, 11:47 PM
I wondering if Vintage will continue beyond 2012 ? or should it be the end to the Vintage Collection ?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 3, 2012, 10:41 AM
That's a lot of assortments. I'm really looking forward to all the new OT stuff, but am afraid pegs will get clogged with everything else before they're ready to hit retail.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 3, 2012, 10:51 AM
That's a lot of assortments. I'm really looking forward to all the new OT stuff, but am afraid pegs will get clogged with everything else before they're ready to hit retail.

I think once we get past Toy Fair these case assortments will make a good deal more sense.  Especially once the bigger etailers like BBTS and EE get the cases listed with official imagery.

But the inclusion of more Sandtroopers and Episode III Clone Troopers is a definite head scratcher.  The thing is, in most of that list with previously identified figures there were figure numbers next to each figure.  In the case of the Episode III Clone and Sandtrooper they were ID'd not with a TVC number, but the upc number.  Are we looking at different Episode III Clones and Sandtroopers in this instance?  It already seems clear that there's an Episode II Clone, but with the blue Lieutenant markings.  My guess is we'll get a Shock Trooper or Coruscant Clone from Episode III, and an alternate color pauldron for the Sandtrooper.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2012, 10:59 AM
I'm really hoping it is a different ROTS trooper as well.  And seriously, what is up with all the Sandtroopers all the time?  I like them and all, but I see they are listed in the Movie Heroes line again too.  It just seems funny that they don't release "regular" Stormtroopers with this much consistency, but the Sandtroopers are pretty much consistently on the pegs.

Anyways, other than that, the lineup looks pretty great.  In some ways, the list (beyond what we already knew about) seems a little "main character" light, aside from the CW figures.  Not that we don't appreciate the other characters, it is just surprising.  I guess that would give them an Anakin or Obi-Wan to "anchor" assortments (or carry overs) since there isn't a Luke, Vader, Han, etc. listed for the second half of the year really (or what I'm guessing is the 2nd half).  Overall, looks great though.  They are really knocking off a lot of requested figures, and continuing a great run for TVC.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 3, 2012, 11:46 AM
Won't they just keep pumping out the core characters in the MH line?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2012, 11:58 AM
In some ways, the list (beyond what we already knew about) seems a little "main character" light, aside from the CW figures.  Not that we don't appreciate the other characters, it is just surprising.  I guess that would give them an Anakin or Obi-Wan to "anchor" assortments (or carry overs) since there isn't a Luke, Vader, Han, etc. listed for the second half of the year really

No kidding.  The only Han Solo planned for 2012 is a repack of the Bespin figure?  Lame.  Don't get me wrong, I love the Bespin Han...  I was just hoping for a kick-ass NEW Han to make up for the POS "Yavin 4" Han and repack Endor Han they dumped on us last year.  ::)

And no Chewie?  WTF does everyone's favorite wookiee need to do to get on a VC card?  He hasn't had a VC card since what, 2004?  Poor Chewie is stuck in Legends/CW Hell I guess.  Seriously, we need a new Chewbacca on a vintage card dammit.   >:(


I'm not so mad about Sandtroopers - for $10 price now, I'd rather get Sandtroopers, who are really just Stormtroopers with extra gear, than Stormtroopers with just one blaster anyway.  I am annoyed with more Clone Troopers and Clone Pilots though.  Save that stuff for the AOTC and ROTS 3D launchs, don't make us suffer through them now AND again next spring.   
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2012, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I don't get all the Clones included here either with the AOTC 3D release on its way next year.  I'd just as soon they hold those off for then as well.  Honestly, I know they can improve little things on some of the figures, but overall I'm fairly satisfied with my clonetroopers at this point.

I don't get why we haven't seen a Chewie here either.  Putting the EB Chewie on a vintage card would be pretty cool, and easy for Hasbro.  Honestly, although people generally don't like repacks, if they had to put a wave out there later in the year (similar to the "Death Star" wave that hit retail) made up primarily of repacks - I wouldn't mind if they did an "Original 12" wave, with the new vintage cardbacks (front and backs, like the TPM wave) and included repacks from the VOTC/VTSC/etc. waves with maybe a couple of new figures (a new ANH Leia, for example).  I'd be ok with that, and it would get some nice figures (EB Chewie, VOTC Han, Resurgence Luke/R2, etc.) out there again.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on February 3, 2012, 02:03 PM
If my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of assortments of TVC Wave 3 too... I seem to recall something like 5 or more assortments of that wave listed at EE... I guess each assortment is limited for a wave, and all the assortments together equal about the volume of a regular wave with just one assorment... I could be way off on that though.

For the EPIII Clone, I'd be happy with the VC #45 body, with a NEWLY sculpted Phase II helmet, something not so big and bulky as the removable helmets Hasbro has given the "grunts" in the past.  They really NEED to do that... it's pretty lame they haven't yet.

For the Sandtooper, I hope it's a dirty variation of the previous one, with paint applied like on this version (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/tac/legends/sandtrooper.html).
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 3, 2012, 02:07 PM
I think there were 10+ revisions of wave 3 in TVC.  But I am pretty sure that was mostly due to the Wedge delay and Hasbro recarding Yoda
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on February 3, 2012, 02:11 PM
Odd that previous confirmation of Yakface or ReeYees is nowhere to be found...especially in that ROTJ heavy resculpt-a-palooza
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2012, 02:31 PM
Another thing to note is that a bunch of the stuff in those lists are essentially duplicate case packs - like this one:

374994841
269664840 SW EPI QUI-GON
375094840 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
269684840 SW EP1 OBI-WAN
307874840 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307914840 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375004840 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375034840 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375074840 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375084840 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375104840 SW EPIV IMPERIAL NAVY COMMANDER
375114840 SW EPV LUKE
375134840 SW EU DARTH MALGUS

and this one:
374997381
269667380 SW EPI QUI-GON
375097380 SW EPI DARTH MAUL
269687380 SW EP1 OBI-WAN
307877380 SW EPI BATTLE DROID
307917380 SW EPI DARTH SIDIOUS
375007380 SW EP1 ANAKIN
375037380 SW EP1 NABOO ROYAL GUARD
375077380 SW CW ANAKIN SKYWALKER
375087380 SW EPIV DARTH VADER
375107380 SW EPIV IMPERIAL NAVY COMMANDER
375117380 SW EPV LUKE
375137380 SW EU DARTH MALGUS

Same case pack, but one has 4840 ending, the other has 7380 ending numbers.  Since the list came from Hasbro UK source, I suppose there could be some doubling up - maybe some are US/english card assortments while others are "tri-logo"/EU style cardback assortments?  That would explain the doubles in the list...
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 3, 2012, 05:47 PM
I sure hope so despite it's problems this line is top notch. And as history repeats itself the mainline of SW always comes out on top. If the line up holds these will do well. I think the EP3 cloneTrooper will be the Shocktrooper using the VC45 buck like the 501st. I can also see the sandtrooper upgraded with dirt and the remote controlled 97 SE droid.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on February 3, 2012, 06:48 PM
Before this line ends they need to do the 12 backs  :)  and a Stormtrooper Han Solo on the TVC card.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2012, 08:48 PM
Before this line ends they need to do the 12 backs  :)  and a Stormtrooper Han Solo on the TVC card.

Agreed.  Definitely would like to see the Stormtrooper Han released on the Vintage cards, even if it was just a re-release of the previous one they did a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on February 3, 2012, 09:09 PM
That will be the final SDCC exclusive in 2018... just to piss people off.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 4, 2012, 10:56 PM
If I recall, Hasbro said they were getting away from "plain" and going with more colorful clones in the future...  I think that ROTS Trooper will then be one of the specific units from the films, and the Sandtrooper I'd suspect will have a bit of a deco improvement too.

Like Jeff, I'll take a "Sandtrooper" over a regular Stormtrooper anyday...  I stocked up heavy in 2007 because they were really versatile basic Imperial grunts.  That's cool by me, and with the Sandtrooper you almost always get some cool extra guns like the big Lewis Gun rifle, or the MG34 rifle, or last year's MG32...  I like that and a nice basic E11.  All of the above and an E11 would be nice too though. ;D

I'm wondering how well 2012's list jives with the "rumors" that sprang out of an ass here or there though?  Or are we going to cling to that Tarkin as a "See, I called that!" moment?  :D
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2012, 04:22 PM
Swatches of Bespin Leia's Cloth/Gown were shown at CV weren't they?
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2012, 11:58 PM
I can't recall that off-hand.  Then again I probably would've missed it anyway.  ::)
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 7, 2012, 08:10 AM
Swatches of Bespin Leia's Cloth/Gown were shown at CV weren't they?

yup - at least, that is what most people thought they were.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 7, 2012, 12:03 PM
Swatches of Bespin Leia's Cloth/Gown were shown at CV weren't they?

Courtesy of someone at RS:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Mrblight/sculpts.jpg)

There was a bit of discussion back then on whether that was really Bespin Leia gown material or just a coincidence.  Then, the Nov 2010 Q&A confirmed that both Bespin Gown Leia and Bespin Escape Leia were in the works... I think it was at SSG or something, can't find the linky. :(

I guess I can see them going either way.  Bespin Gown Leia would be a nice partner to the 2010 Luke and 2011 Han upgrades and tick another Kenner recard off the list.  Bespin Escape Leia could re-use parts from that 2010 Hoth Leia for an easy kit-bash (like they did with Dagobah Landing Luke) and would be a welcome upgrade over the 2001 PotJ version.
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on February 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
I'm hoping for Bespin Leia...with an easy Kitbash headswap to a Bespin Escape Leia on an Extra Hoth Leia I bought :P
Title: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2012, 02:19 PM
Just remember your Bespin Escape Leia has to have her pants out over her boots!  :-X

I'm hopeful for both.
Title: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 13, 2012, 03:09 PM
so based on the Vintage Figure Line Checklist that Jeff recently updated, we know that

VC61 is White Armor Boba Fett
and VC66 & VC67 are Salacious Crumb and the Mouse Droid

So what are VC71 - CV74?!?!

Can anyone who's still at Toy Fair with the ability to ask that question, ask it?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2012, 03:35 PM
Hasbro's not at the Javitz Center for people to ask stuff.  They're totally separate. 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jeff on February 13, 2012, 04:04 PM
So what are VC71 - CV74?!?!

I think those are the repacks of the Walmart DTF figures...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Official_Presentation_Slides/043.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Matt R. on February 15, 2012, 09:44 PM
on the yakface's facebook, somebody got a comfirmation on a item in 2013.  Does anybody know what this is ??
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 15, 2012, 10:41 PM
Saw that too.  Teasing stuff like that can be a double-edged sword.  Someone let it slip to me at Toy Fair in 2008 that the Turbo Tank was on the way, but I felt compelled to keep my mouth shut and be all ethical and ****.  I didn't want to blow up the guys spot, and wanted to maintain a good working relationship with Hasbro.

Fast forward a couple of years after that and a site that I used to be affiliated with got a full Hasbro marketing plan and confirmation of the big AT-AT.  They decided to publish it, despite my protestations that it should be dealt with cautiously.  What ensued afterward was intense, and included threats of litigation from Hasbro's legal representation.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 15, 2012, 10:44 PM
I'm hearing about new 3-packs which include Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan, plus some other multipacks... does anyone have any details about this?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 16, 2012, 09:43 AM
on the yakface's facebook, somebody got a comfirmation on a item in 2013.  Does anybody know what this is ??

yeah I saw that too, did they end up meaning the details on the yoda style packaging?

either way, there was some turd with what looked like a Madonna picture posting on the facebook thread.  what a turd....  Words cannot express how much of a turd he was being....  turd.  Madonna man - if you are reading this - you are a turd.

I probably should have said that last night in the facebook thread.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Jayson on February 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
on the yakface's facebook, somebody got a comfirmation on a item in 2013.  Does anybody know what this is ??

yeah I saw that too, did they end up meaning the details on the yoda style packaging?


Yes. Granted it's nothing earth-shattering, but for fans of packaging and general design, it was cool to see the rumor confirmed. It's not like we spoiled an entire TF presentation or anything. : P
Title: Re: Re: Re: Vintage Rumors
Post by: Scott on February 16, 2012, 10:08 AM
Saw that too.  Teasing stuff like that can be a double-edged sword.  Someone let it slip to me at Toy Fair in 2008 that the Turbo Tank was on the way, but I felt compelled to keep my mouth shut and be all ethical and ****.  I didn't want to blow up the guys spot, and wanted to maintain a good working relationship with Hasbro.

Fast forward a couple of years after that and a site that I used to be affiliated with got a full Hasbro marketing plan and confirmation of the big AT-AT.  They decided to publish it, despite my protestations that it should be dealt with cautiously.  What ensued afterward was intense, and included threats of litigation from Hasbro's legal representation.

We've had to deal with the same thing a couple of time here...most notably when Tom Hodges posted a bunch of EpIII Concept Art in a Rebelscum chat room and "someone" copied them all and sent them too us :P

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3555.30


Chris posted them right away and was greeted with LFL lawyers and threats and all that jazz.  We were all scared shitless but it was also a lot of fun!

The other time happened soon after.  We got the scoop on the EpIII design and look and actual mockups and the like (sort of like this Yak story)  We chose to do our own concept mock ups instead of just posting the info #1 to protect our source and #2 to not have LFL shut us down permanently :P

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=4539.45

Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scott on June 7, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sounds like TRU is getting the BAT-AT, BMF and the new Speederbike.

The Speederbike is hopefully the new one that we reported about many moons ago...
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 7, 2012, 11:14 AM
The TRU still has a few of the "Shadows of the Dark Side" packaged AT-AT's.

Dunno if this signals the upcoming end of Vintage or what, repackaging things out there in one last money grab, because they sure could wait on the AT-AT and the Falcon until closer to when OT movies are rereleased.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on June 7, 2012, 04:44 PM
I am interested to see if they give the AT-AT an Endor deco and what it will look like.  It's been awhile since the Falcon came out.  I guess they are not detoured by the ones that went on cleareance?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 7, 2012, 05:25 PM
Could it just be that TRU agreed to take receipt of some more Vintage Style-Packaged AT-ATs and more Legacy Collection BMFs and entries needed to be put into their computer system to accomodate then?

To me, for items this big - it is still WAY too soon for them to be coming out again...
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Ben on June 7, 2012, 11:15 PM
Sweet. I never bit on either the AT-AT or BMF when they were out, so I'll be sure to grab them now.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jeff on June 18, 2012, 02:36 PM
I see Rebelscum has more on the TRU exclusives for Fall (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Toy_R_Us_Exclusive_Vintage_Collection_Update_146397.asp).

I really, really, really want a new ESB Slave 1 with brand new Han Carbonite.  But I'm really, really worried it's going to cost like $100+ in this new overpriced era. :(
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 18, 2012, 03:07 PM
If it's paint really nice I would happily pay $80-$100 for the Slave 1. I am stoked of the OT attention and will support these like no tomorrow. I want to help send a message, keep the focus on OT an you will get a positve response.

I want a Sailbarge one day along with a retooled Skiff.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2012, 02:21 PM
Lots of new rumors this week, hopefully SDCC will be a good showing this year (or the combination of SDCC and C6).  Although I'm a little nervous about the price as well, I'm pretty psyched for the possibility of that ESB Slave 1 with the new Carbonite block.  Also, the speeder bike.  I've been waiting for one of those for awhile as well.  Hopefully both do end up being true, and we'll get some nice pics soon.  I'm almost a little surprised they didn't save the Slave 1 for the Empire 3D release year, but I guess that is a ways off yet (and we still haven't gotten confirmation on AOTC at this point).

The battle packs (Ewoks and Pilots) are both great too, and I can't wait for those.  So far, it looks like TRU is cleaning up on exclusives this Fall, it will be interesting to see what the other stores get.  I really like Scott's idea for the Cantina aliens 3 Pack, and I'm sort of glad to see those returning to Target.  I know the previous rounds have basically been repacks (and clearanced), but I guess the nostalgia of it is kind of nice.  And, for the most part, they have used pretty nice versions of the figures to fill out the packs.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 21, 2012, 11:17 PM
So we've seen what appears to be a variant AT-ST Pilot utilizing the Assault On Hoth BP's AT-ST Pilot sculpt, but there seem to be some deco differences and a totally new head that I can't place with any other figure.

It's unclear if it's a prototype, production figure (I lean this way), and it's unknown if it's a pack-in or basic figure as well.

Either way, seems like we're getting a quasi-new one by what was seen! :D

Chalk it up to rumor right now though.  :-X
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 22, 2012, 09:01 AM
I'm hoping for not a rumor. And that it's not so tall.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 22, 2012, 10:30 AM
awesome! I have 8 of the original ones from that hoth pack but I replaced all of their helmets with the previous ones to make them look better as the googles are attached to the helmet. The helmet he originally came with and the seperate goggles did not work well or look good at all. I hope that got corrected.
It's been a long time coming for this guys and about time.

JJ did they fix the helmet or is it a different head? the head he came with was great, I would love more to swap with rebels.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on June 22, 2012, 10:36 AM
This is great news, I'm really hoping he's not too hard of a figure to get a handful of for most people.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 22, 2012, 11:02 AM
Yeah!!! I only have two of this figure from the Hoth Target Sets - so I will happily get a bunch more for my old/new AT-STs...

Not surprising that he's in the pipeline with the AT-ST coming to K-Mart, it makes sense from a product coordination standpoint.

Hopefully he'll be easier to get than the Imperial Navy Commander figure...  :-X
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 22, 2012, 09:01 PM
Maybe he is the pack in with the new Endor AT AT. I mean it is a warmer climate, and we didn't see exactly what uniform was worn in the Hoth AS AT or even the Endor AT AT. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 22, 2012, 11:57 PM
He cud b a packin or basic.  We DO NOT know many details but for one so-so picture that seemed to only indicate a new head n some slight deco differences.

I'm hoping for basic figure.  Looks to reuse body exactly with no changes.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scott on July 14, 2012, 11:58 PM
Any new heads in this lineup?

http://www.toyark.com/news/san-diego-comic-con-58/sdcc-2012-hasbro-head-sculpts-6154/

Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2012, 10:00 AM
The Q&A at Yodasnews seems to hint that Hasbro really wants to get a female droid out there in the droid factory line.

So that sort of means Guri, EV-9D9 or BD3000...no?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on July 15, 2012, 10:03 AM
I don't think it'll be EV cause they said they'd be droids never offered before. (Unless they meant never offered as just a B.A.D.)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2012, 02:09 PM
Place your bets...

BD3000 is my pick.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Diddly on July 15, 2012, 02:29 PM
Female droid, eh?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/Crushinator.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: evenflow on July 15, 2012, 03:14 PM
I would buy a wave with a Guri BAF!
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scockery on July 15, 2012, 09:16 PM
A bot like the Crushinator you don't buy all of at once.
Title: Re: Defender Wishlists 2012 Discussion
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 16, 2012, 06:08 PM
didnt know where to post this.  do we have a rumors thread?

HK-51 revealed:  http://www.swtor.com/info/news/news-article/20120716

looks like he would be a simple repaint to make a toy out of him.  Maybe a B.A.D. candidate?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: speedermike on July 16, 2012, 07:50 PM
Is that Michael Cain doing the voice?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on July 16, 2012, 07:55 PM
I'm not seeing where it says we're getting a figure of the droid.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 16, 2012, 07:57 PM
it doesn't, I was just suggesting the possibility of a new character.  Plus the BAD starting back up.   Just speculation on my part

sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on July 16, 2012, 07:59 PM
Oh ok. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 17, 2012, 02:19 AM
I thought the one HK we got was HK-51...  I know one was HK47 from KOTOR I, but I thought HK-51 was from KOTOR II and that was his designation?

He clone himself?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: ZevZev on July 17, 2012, 03:25 AM
That's HK-50.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 17, 2012, 02:18 PM
Ah ok, thanks ZZ.

Well there ya go.  I'd certainly not turn my nose up at 51...  Actually I think it's a pretty solid bet this one's going to happen.  The parts are molded.  It sort of feels inevitable.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scott on August 26, 2012, 07:55 PM
JTA Q&A has word from Hasbro of a new Lobot and Hammerhead in the works
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 26, 2012, 08:17 PM
JTA Q&A has word from Hasbro of a new Lobot and Hammerhead in the works

I didn't read the report, but I have no doubt that Hasbro intends to have Vintage return when the OT is re-released in 3D and figures like Hammerhead and Lobot are high on the list for re-do and vintage carding.

Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 26, 2012, 08:21 PM
Hammerhead?  Well, the Hammerhead I want most is the vintage cantina 3-pack with Greedo and Walrusman.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 27, 2012, 12:19 PM
Hammerhead?  Well, the Hammerhead I want most is the vintage cantina 3-pack with Greedo and Walrusman.

Perfect excuse to have us shell out 25 more bucks for one figure.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on August 27, 2012, 12:25 PM
Since both of those are from the 3-packs I think that is were we will see them.
New Hammerhead with repacks of Greedo and Ponda and a new Lobot with repacks of Han and an ugnaught sounds extremely likely to be the next wave.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 27, 2012, 03:38 PM
Hammerhead?  Well, the Hammerhead I want most is the vintage cantina 3-pack with Greedo and Walrusman.

Perfect excuse to have us shell out 25 more bucks for one figure.

Actually, my thinking was the vintage Star Wars Creature Set with vintage looking Hammerhead, Walrusman and Greedo.  Scott posted a picture of it, I believe.  Anyway, that'd be three new sculpts.  ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Diddly on August 27, 2012, 07:35 PM
Does this mean that an update to Lobot's Duplex is in the works too?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 27, 2012, 08:50 PM
Seriously?  A new Lobot?  I can STILL find one hanging on the pegs at a local mom & pop shop near me.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2012, 09:50 PM
I liked the last Lobot but one that is poseable wouldn't irk me I guess...  Articulation is about the only way to improve that last one though.  It was pretty spiffy with its creatively sculpted/designed laptop, the little pager thing, and the clear with painted details head implant thing.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 27, 2012, 10:26 PM
That Lobot was too dated, but POTF 2-1B was somehow totally acceptable to reissue.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Force Guy on August 27, 2012, 10:28 PM
I'm with JJ...I liked the OTC version of Lobot quite a bit, but I guess an ultra-articulated Lobot is great, I guess, for displaying a Lobot figure breakdancing.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2012, 11:35 PM
I'm for almost anyone articulated to the nines, or at least I used to be...  Lobot SEEMS like he could be a badass if he wanted to, so I'm ok with that.  What makes me question it is just the current prices...  I'm reluctant to shell out $10 for just any old upgrade...  Some, like Cantina guys that need it, I'd do so gladly.  Some, like Army Builders, I'd probably do so gladly and a couple extra.  Some, like Malikili (at today's $10 price) would make me wonder if I was spending $10 wisely.

He's a cool update, but I got him for less than $8 I think...  For me I guess that's just the threshold I'm at.  $10 Lobot is something I'm kinda wishy washy on then...  I'd be happier with him at $8 for sure.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 28, 2012, 10:04 AM
I wouldn't turn my nose up at a better-articulated Lobot, but if we don't get it, I won't be bummed. he is cool though...

I actually like the Hammerhead we have now, from a few years ago. But a newer one with more articulation would be cool. I would love a Hammerhead that can sit.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 28, 2012, 10:05 AM
I wonder if Lobot would come with removable head phones / implant?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 28, 2012, 10:26 AM
We need a new Yak Face! We've only had one modern Yak Face and it sucked.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 28, 2012, 10:59 AM
I think Yakface was an affirmative by Hasbro reps during Celebration (via yakface.com), though I believe they were going to wait and put him on a Vintage card.  So it sounds like we'll have to wait a couple years for him.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 28, 2012, 02:11 PM
We need a new Yak Face! We've only had one modern Yak Face and it sucked.

Here, here!
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on August 28, 2012, 02:12 PM
I'd be fine with Lobot getting more articulation and costing around $10 - but that's mostly because I'd like to grab a few and pop them apart for customs.  He'd be great for Coruscant folk and average citizen-esque custom fodder.  I'd still keep one non-butchered though for my Cloud City dio.

As for Yakface, I definitely would buy several... one for the Palace dio, and several for customs. 
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Brian on August 28, 2012, 08:58 PM
It seems like there were a few figures from the OT where it sounded like they were on the way, but Hasbro wanted to "save them for the Vintage Collection".  I understand that, but it worries me that we won't see much from the OT for awhile if that is the case.  That might be why we're seeing a lot of OT characters next year that have either already been done on a vintage cardback (Biker Scout, Vader, etc.) or weren't in the original vintage lineup (Biggs, Ceremony Luke, etc.)  It might just be a concidence too.  I guess we should expect more of a prequel push with both AOTC and ROTS 3D on the way next year.  Hopefully we'll see vintage return for a big OT 3D extravaganza in 2014 :).
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 28, 2012, 09:43 PM
I'd think it's more OT figures who had Vinty figures that they'd really rather save for a return to the vinty cards...  Doesn't mean there aren't a plethora of other OT figures they couldn't or wouldn't do...  Just modern Lobot NOT being on a vinty card does make sense, as does Yakface, etc.

I'm a little surprised Biggs isn't being held back, actually.  Only because there's certain guys who were never in the vintage line that you raelly WANT that card for them...  Tarkin, Fleet Trooper, etc.  Biggs would be on my short list of those characters.  I'd also put Owen/Beru, Imp Technician, Chief Bast, Nik Sant, some of the Cantina aliens (many that could stand an upgrade), etc.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on August 28, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oh, I'm sure they'll re-card Biggs on a TVC cardback too.  Same goes for that Ceremony Luke, if they think they can get away with it.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scott on August 28, 2012, 11:14 PM
YOU FORGOT WILLROW HOOD ::)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 29, 2012, 09:15 AM
So are we going to be OT free for the next couple years while they hold everything back for TVC cards (aside from repacks)?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on August 29, 2012, 09:39 AM
that and resculpts no one ever really wanted....
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 29, 2012, 12:34 PM
Awesome. So maybe it will be like a sequel to the TPM Catastrophe of 2012TM. Interestingly enough, it will be with TPM's actual sequel, AOTC!

I can just see it now...Five Padme outfits! Queen Jamilla! Anakin and Obi-Wan repacks! Jimmy Smits! More clones! They should sell like hot cakes!

And the "B" surprise, the MTT with Geonosis red non-posable battle droids!
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 29, 2012, 03:02 PM
Don't forget, ROTS 3d is out a month later. That means we will also see at least six Vaders. One of which you will press his legs together, his arms will go up adn he will scream, "Noooooooo!"
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: iFett on August 29, 2012, 03:20 PM
That would be so rad....
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 29, 2012, 03:38 PM
I'm almost expecting to see repacks of the Saga figures from 2002. You know, the really ****** ones in action poses with no articulation? And action features galore?
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 29, 2012, 04:35 PM
I'm almost expecting to see repacks of the Saga figures from 2002. You know, the really ****** ones in action poses with no articulation? And action features galore?

You know... why not?  Hasbro said that they want to focus on kids more.  I'm actually surprised that Hasbro doesn't keep Vintage around for the collectors and make Legacy (or BAD) for the kids with those salt shaker sculpts.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on August 29, 2012, 04:37 PM
Don't forget, ROTS 3d is out a month later. That means we will also see at least six Vaders. One of which you will press his legs together, his arms will go up adn he will scream, "Noooooooo!"

not going to lie, there is a good chance I would buy that just cause it would be hilarious...
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2012, 08:38 PM
They probably reissue Office Duel Palpatine and/or deluxe switcho-change-o Sidious/Palpatine.

Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2012, 05:57 PM
YOU FORGOT WILLROW HOOD ::)

Oh I didn't forget.  I just waited for the right moment to say, "Yeah I second that!  I want that too!".  :)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2017, 01:45 PM
Some rumors circulating at JTA - sound like the "15 figures" a year is new figures and not total figures?  Anyway, JTA is "speculating" these for 2018...  I will leave it to you all to decide if it's fanboy speculation or actual rumoring. ;)

TFA First Order Stormtrooper (repack)
TFA Kylo Ren (repack)
TFA Rey - Jakku (repack)
SWEU Doctor Aphra *new*
ESB Hoth Rebel Trooper (repack)
RO Jyn Erso (repack)
RO Cassian Andor (repack)
RO Imperial Tank Driver *new*
RO Deathtrooper (repack)
TFA Finn (repack)
TFA Captain Phasma (repack)
TFA Princess Leia (repack)
TFA Poe Dameron (repack)
TLJ Luke Skywalker *new*
TLJ Rey - Jedi Training *new*
xxx Han Solo *new* (from new Han movie)
xxx Chewbacca *new* (from new Han movie)
RO Stormtrooper *new* (from RO Stormtrooper 3D scan)
RO Darth Vader *new* (rumored to be using scaled-down BS 6" 40th Anniv sculpt)
ANH Ponda Baba (repack)
ANH Momaw Nadon (repack)
RO Baze Malbus *new*
RO Chirrt Imwe *new*
ROTJ Yakface *new*
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 31, 2017, 03:26 PM
I hope that's true.  Some repacks I don't need, but plenty that I would buy again (ESB Hoth Rebel Trooper...I'm in for a bunch!)
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darby on July 31, 2017, 03:42 PM
They would line up with what's been speculated and also what Hasbro hinted at in some of their Q&A's, specifically the Stormtrooper / Vader. I still love the last Hammerhead, but I'm sure a new one would be epic, especially on the vintage card.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 31, 2017, 10:04 PM
I'd say ok if available by the case.  I'd say the lack of a shoretrooper sucks.  I'd also say some of those repacks are abysmal choices because some just didn't sell well.  I'm happy, sad, excited, and dejected all at one time.

So basically no clue how to feel other than I plan to order cases on EE and call it s day except on extras.

Btw can't say I care about another Stormtrooper.  I want the shoretrooper which was impossible to get.

I'd have liked to have seen more old TVC repacks but I get pushing the new media first.  I'm kinda cool with what I see mostly just scared by a few like Leia.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darby on July 31, 2017, 10:09 PM
Shoretrooper is a definite problem area, since I don't have any, SA or 5 POA. Never showed up.  :'(
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 1, 2017, 10:11 AM
I'm kinda cool with what I see mostly just scared by a few like Leia.

If they take the opportunity to fix her fugly face deco, then I'm all for another try at that TFA Leia, actually. 

The thing about this line is that we have to hope that there are enough TVC carded collectors out there who are going to buy Phasma or Finn on TFA TVC cards.  If those people aren't out there anymore, this TVC experiment is going to be over quick.   :-\


And yeah, I get why they picked Deathtrooper over Shoretrooper, but I think EVERYONE would be happy to see more of those in this line.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 1, 2017, 11:18 AM
I'm sure we'll see more shoretroopers.  If I've learned anything over the past few years, it's that patience pays off.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 1, 2017, 11:26 AM

And yeah, I get why they picked Deathtrooper over Shoretrooper, but I think EVERYONE would be happy to see more of those in this line.

I'm pretty sure that Steve Evans explained this in one of the SDCC interviews, and it had to do with wave building relative to storytelling.  That being the ROGUE ONE themed wave would be built more around the events on Jedha.  Hasbro's logic was that Deathtroopers would be more likely to have been present at Jedha than Shoretroopers.  And there will also be the Imperial Tank Trooper offered up.

The one thing I take from Hasbro's comments on this new incarnation of the Vintage Collection is that the tooling budget for new figures may be limited.  And we should probably expect more reissues of high quality figures built around a theme.

I'm sure we'll see more shoretroopers.  If I've learned anything over the past few years, it's that patience pays off.

+1.  Give it time.  I think we'll see Hasbro come up with a Scarif themed wave at some point.  The Shoretrooper fits in there perfectly.  So do Stormtroopers, and even Rebel Fleet Troopers.  For new figures?  I'd like to see an SA versions of K-2SO and Baze Malbus plus General Merrick and some of the Rebel ground troops.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darby on August 1, 2017, 12:09 PM
Evans also basically conceded the Shoretrooper was coming in those same interviews, so it's no worry there. I think the bah humbug sentiment right now is that this particular figure is in super high demand and super scarce. I'd buy tons of either the SA or 5 POA version if I had the chance right now, and baring any dumps at Wally World, it will be 2019 before I get one.

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If those people aren't out there anymore, this TVC experiment is going to be over quick.   :-\

Along those lines, Adam Pawlus basically declared TVC DOA in one of his recent Q&A's. I wonder if the market is there. I think there's enough interest given the huge response to the 40th anniversary figs, but then I don't how much of that is that Hasbro underproduced them. I also wonder how much of a deterrent #116 is to some collectors as opposed to a reward. Hopefully lots of new collectors come in. Some may - they may not - see that 116 and go WUT and realize there's no hope. I hope the line does well.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 6, 2017, 12:27 PM
There's absolutely a market for the SA "vintage" figures, I know I'm not the only one who will buy every one they make. The trick for Hasbro is finding the right production run balance to make the line worth the effort. They want to make them them, that seems clear from my chat with Steve and I can not wait until they start hitting the shelves again.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: Darby on August 6, 2017, 01:27 PM
Agree 100%, though I think Hasbro finding the right balance in production/distribution is the one area they consistently fall flat. It's clear they are hyper aware of it, so maybe they'll get to it once and for all, but going back to 09, this has been a major issue. I talked to Daryl DePriest at NYCC 2011 about volume/distribution, and it was getting fixed then.
Title: Re: Vintage Collection Rumors
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 6, 2017, 03:52 PM
I'm the market for sure. But if we don't either see a whole bunch of re-pack peg warmers or empty pegs I'll be shocked. I have very little hope for somewhere in the middle.