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Title: 2024 TVC Wave 2 (New TVC Wave 34) [Fan Channel]
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2023, 10:24 AM
Starting up a thread for this wave...  Reminder that this wave is intended for specialty shops and is "Fan Channel" (meaning no Target or Walmart). 

Also, this wave has a weird "case pack of 4".  Not sure if that is related to the "fan channel" nature of this wave or if this is a sign of things to come for the TVC basic figures?

 - 2024 VC130 Captain Cassian Andor {photo-real repaint w/new cardback}
 - 2024 VCxxx Finn (Starkiller Base) {photo-real repaint; 1st time on TVC card}
 - 2024 VCxxx Phase I Clone Trooper {VC269 clone sculpt with a Phase I helmet}
 - 2024 VCxxx Count Dooku {all-new!}

You can order the full case of 4 at EE here -> https://ee.toys/ISADPG #sponsoredlink

And the individual pre-order links:

2024 VC130 Captain Cassian Andor
- Amazon -> https://amzn.to/3tLKdMJ #sponsoredlink
- EE -> https://ee.toys/ISADPG #sponsoredlink

2024 VCxxx Finn (Starkiller Base) {photo-real repaint w/new cardback}
- Amazon -> https://amzn.to/49caap9 #sponsoredlink
- EE -> https://ee.toys/5A187C #sponsoredlink

2024 VCxxx Phase I Clone Trooper
- Amazon -> https://amzn.to/3QDMS4k #sponsoredlink
- EE -> https://ee.toys/JB56AS #sponsoredlink

2024 VCxxx Count Dooku
- Amazon -> https://amzn.to/3QedJCB #sponsoredlink
- EE -> https://ee.toys/T4T3UP #sponsoredlink
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2023, 01:33 PM
I ended up pre-ordering 1x Dooku and 2x of the new Phase I Clone Trooper.  Just can't bring myself to spend $17 to upgrade Finn or Cassian (the first issue VC130 was enough of an improvement from the 2015 Walmart figure for me).
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 30, 2023, 02:52 PM
Thanks for the links! I grabbed 3 Dooku, 8 Clones and 1 Cassian...I've actually been wanting an upgrade to his face apps, so I figured I should put my money where my mouth is. I'll use the extra Cassians I have to make custom rebels.

Do you get referral credit now or when the orders ship?
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2023, 03:55 PM
I'll use the extra Cassians I have to make custom rebels.

Yeah, that is the nice thing about that figure.  If you do upgrade, the old one is a great base for customs.  You can toss his head on the new Imp body for a custom Scariff Disguise figure and then use the body for a general Yavin IV Rebel Officer figure.


Do you get referral credit now or when the orders ship?

We get paid 30 days after things ship.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Brian on October 30, 2023, 04:21 PM
Did anyone else notice that (I think) every figure announcement for TVC and Black Series are listed as either fan channel or Pulse/Shop Disney exclusives? I don’t recall seeing that before, for every release. Not that many actually are able to collect everything at retail these days, but I wonder if that means anything for the makeup of waves that go to retail (or if that is lessening).
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Ryan on October 30, 2023, 04:34 PM
Thanks for the links! I grabbed 3 Dooku, 8 Clones and 1 Cassian...I've actually been wanting an upgrade to his face apps, so I figured I should put my money where my mouth is. I'll use the extra Cassians I have to make custom rebels.

Do you get referral credit now or when the orders ship?


I was similar and grabbed 13 Clones, 3 Dookus, 2 Cassians, & 2 Finns. I'm happy with the new Dooku, even though I always liked the older Sith Evolutions version, and somehow am not entirely Cloned-out yet.

Finn is the only one in the lot I wasn't particularly thrilled with and may cancel later.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2023, 04:36 PM
Did anyone else notice that (I think) every figure announcement for TVC and Black Series are listed as either fan channel or Pulse/Shop Disney exclusives? I don’t recall seeing that before, for every release.

They have done "fan channel" waves before so it's not new.  In fact, at this same London MCM panel/show last year was when Hasbro announced the "fan channel only" wave of Jabba Goons repacks - Yakface, Kithaba, Nikto, Wooof. 

It could be a portent of things to come in the basic figure line that these are all "fan channel" or it could just be the result of these being announced at a European convention where the notion of "retail" is markedly different than here in the USA.  Maybe they just picked all fan channel things to reveal based on the audience/location of the show?
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Ryan on October 31, 2023, 01:46 AM
Did anyone else notice that (I think) every figure announcement for TVC and Black Series are listed as either fan channel or Pulse/Shop Disney exclusives? I don’t recall seeing that before, for every release.

They have done "fan channel" waves before so it's not new.  In fact, at this same London MCM panel/show last year was when Hasbro announced the "fan channel only" wave of Jabba Goons repacks - Yakface, Kithaba, Nikto, Wooof. 

It could be a portent of things to come in the basic figure line that these are all "fan channel" or it could just be the result of these being announced at a European convention where the notion of "retail" is markedly different than here in the USA.  Maybe they just picked all fan channel things to reveal based on the audience/location of the show?

If I remember correctly, I think most of these "Fan Channel" waves have been primarily repacks/repaints (which aside from Dooku and the clone is the case here).

Does that sound right?
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on October 31, 2023, 10:03 AM
If I remember correctly, I think most of these "Fan Channel" waves have been primarily repacks/repaints

Yeah, for the most part the 'fan channel' waves have been photo-real repaints or straight repack waves.

I guess we should also note that in the past the "fan channel only" waves have made it to Target/Walmart because despite being tagged as "fan channel" by Hasbro, they used the same assortment number as the regular figures.  That is again the case here.  These figures all have assortment #F6878, which is the same assortment number for the Bunker Han/Weequay wave, the Jerjerrod/Tusken Fett wave, and the Krennic/Chopper wave. 

This whole fan channel thing could be nothing or it could be a sign that Target/Walmart don't want this stuff anymore.  There is good and bad in that.  I get 90% of my stuff from Pulse/Amazon so it's not going to change my habits as all.  BUT, without big retail, we may miss out on some exclusives or bigger things.  I guess we all just need patience to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2023, 11:09 AM
Yeah I didn’t think of the fact these were revealed overseas, that might have had something to do with it. I knew that we have had fan channel/repack waves before, it just caught my eye that these and all of the Black Series reveals were listed as fan channel or Pulse/Disney exclusives (even the ROTS Palpy, which I think would be considered at least new-ish), and I think maybe even Anakin and Palme? I’d have to go look at the slides again. Probably nothing, just that in combo with what Star Wars sections look like around here, I was wondering if we would start seeing less or disappear eventually.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 1, 2023, 08:04 AM
Overall?  I think the reveals are a mixed bag.  I am very excited about Count Dooku.  He has not been in the line in a long time, and I think that the updates look good.  Having him on a TVC card is really cool, and I like the artwork.  And I'm hoping that Dooku sells well, because if he does I hope that would motivate Hasbro to take on him from Tales of the Jedi.  One of those 2-packs with Jedi Master Dooku and Yaddle would be tremendous!

The Clone Trooper looks reasonably good, but that's because of the body.  The helmet looks a little bit deformed, and I think Hasbro really needs to go with the swappable heads here.  I think they can get away with the removable helmet with a bald character, but it seems problematic with almost everyone else.  Finn looks about as good as that figure can be.  I had hoped that Hasbro might present him with the lightsaber when he fought Kylo Ren in TFA, but that wasn't meant to be.  As for Cassian Andor?  The figure looks good, and the photo real paint apps make a big difference.  But Hasbro's inability to judge the market seems problematic since its quite easy to get a hold of both the 3.75" Black Series and TVC releases.  Could this version of Cassian be relevant to season 2 of ANDOR?  Potentially, since I've heard Tony Gilroy state that ideally season 2 will end with Cassian getting on his ship to begin the adventure that unfolds in ROGUE ONE.

The Fan Channel only thing really struck me from all of these reveals.  Target and Walmart both hold tremendous sway over the way Hasbro operates because of their buying power.  I don't think Hasbro is checking out on brick and mortar retail stores.  And that's because Hasbro got Target to buy in on the Mandalorian N-1 starfighter.  You don't stock 3 or 4 x $130+ toys on prime shelf space if you're considering diminishing the relationship.  But I do think that Hasbro is mindful of what collectors are asking for and are trying to steer those things to fan channel retailers.  The puzzling part of that is why Hasbro would put Cassian and Finn there in light of the response to those announcements.  However, I think it's very likely that the ANH wave with Vader, the Stormtrooper reissues, X-Wing Pilot Luke, R2-D2 and the new TVC Leia are likely to be very present at brick & mortar retail.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2023, 11:55 AM
I am very excited about Count Dooku.  He has not been in the line in a long time, and I think that the updates look good.  Having him on a TVC card is really cool, and I like the artwork.  And I'm hoping that Dooku sells well, because if he does I hope that would motivate Hasbro to take on him from Tales of the Jedi.  One of those 2-packs with Jedi Master Dooku and Yaddle would be tremendous!

I guess I'd agree that at least Dooku is the most interesting thing out of what the showed... but (and I know I'm an outlier here compared to the whole of people who collect this stuff) I have no fewer than 13 Dooku figures already.

I don't need 14th when there are so many other characters who need to be made... no matter how nice it looks.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Dave on November 1, 2023, 12:04 PM
I am very excited about Count Dooku.  He has not been in the line in a long time, and I think that the updates look good.  Having him on a TVC card is really cool, and I like the artwork.  And I'm hoping that Dooku sells well, because if he does I hope that would motivate Hasbro to take on him from Tales of the Jedi.  One of those 2-packs with Jedi Master Dooku and Yaddle would be tremendous!

I guess I'd agree that at least Dooku is the most interesting thing out of what the showed... but (and I know I'm an outlier here compared to the whole of people who collect this stuff) I have no fewer than 13 Dooku figures already.

I don't need 14th when there are so many other characters who need to be made... no matter how nice it looks.

I'm with you Rob.  I get it if they're just cashing checks with easy kitbashes, repaints, photo-real paintjob upgrades, etc.  Lazy cash grab.

For the life of me I can't understand why they would devote new sculpting resources to a *insert figure here* that we've already got piles of like Dooku.  If they're going to do a new sculpt, why wouldn't they do something new, and relevant in this decade?  Something new from Andor?  Something new from Rogue One?  Something new from the sequel trilogy?

I love our rank order wishlist stuff, but if I'm being honest, I don't need another figure from the OT or PT.  Even an all new one.  Ever. 

I'm probably an outlier too with you Rob.  Just give me something all new.  Not a new version of something I already have.  Something actually all new.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 1, 2023, 01:12 PM
I agree that Hasbro has covered Count Dooku extensively.  But the last time Hasbro touched on the figure in a live action form in the 3.75" figure line was 12 years ago.  The Black Series version that came out a couple of years ago put the likenesses of all of those figures to shame because it actually looked like Christopher Lee.  And some of the figures from 2002 really look like trash.  Add in the modern paint apps and articulation?  I think Count Dooku deserves that kind of presentation.

As for relevance?  I disagree there.  Because Dooku is an important character in Clone Wars, which has proven to have some long legs in terms of coming back for season 6 on Netflix and then season 7 on Disney+.  And then Dooku was a focal point in Tales Of The Jedi.  Most recently he factored in somewhat to the long and complicated lineage of Jedi that would end with Anakin Skywalker and Ahsoka Tano -  Baylan Skoll mentioned that as a significant plot point in the AHSOKA series.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2023, 01:19 PM
All of us here, in this antiquated forum, are the outliers. 

Why Dooku?  Because he won a fan choice poll over on Instagram (https://www.banthaskull.com/story/news-congratulations-to-count-dooku-for-winning-swtvcs-2023-march-madness/).

Instagram seems to be Hasbro's go-to source for "what do the fans want" these days.  Try as I might, Hasbro doesn't really care about us "forum folks" anymore. 
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 1, 2023, 01:44 PM
The timing of the release suggests that Dooku was almost certainly in the works before the March Madness tournament even took place.  And Dooku had placed pretty well in the previous year's March Madness.  I think he was on a short list.  I heard Chris Reiff mention checking forums during a livestream and was genuinely surprised.  But I think the social media segment of the collecting community is definitely getting more of Hasbro's attention these days - likely because Hasbro can scrape more data about the customers from those platforms.  And data is everything.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Dave on November 1, 2023, 01:56 PM
All of us here, in this antiquated forum, are the outliers. 

Why Dooku?  Because he won a fan choice poll over on Instagram (https://www.banthaskull.com/story/news-congratulations-to-count-dooku-for-winning-swtvcs-2023-march-madness/).

Instagram seems to be Hasbro's go-to source for "what do the fans want" these days.  Try as I might, Hasbro doesn't really care about us "forum folks" anymore.

Wow.  I read the Bantha Skull Post.  I guess I'm not much in to social media so I missed this, but it clearly wouldn't have mattered with their final four:
- Luke Skywalker
- Count Dooku
- Sabine Wren
- Asajj Ventress

Lame.

I hope somebody at Hasbro has some fresh ideas as the Instagram masses clearly don't.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 1, 2023, 05:12 PM
There’s definitely layers to that conversation.  The audience here might be a bit over the criteria that’s become important in some circles because most here have seen so much over such a long time.  Among the criteria that’s important with a lot of that crowd?

-FINISH THE 96 - In terms of Hasbro having re-made the Original 96 Kenner figures in modern form.  Some have expanded on the idea, and want all of the O96 figures specifically within the Vintage Collection.  That’s where they lose me in some respects.  Because the conversation gets fractious because they don’t consider VOTC or VTSC to be the Vintage Collection.  SMH….

-DEFINITIVE VERSIONS OF CORE CHARACTERS - Hasbro has touched on most core characters.  But with a good deal of them their most recent versions could be 10, 15 or 20+ years old.  Another aspect of this is how well have previous versions of the character represented them in figure form?  I know that Hasbro really struggled with Mark Hamill’s likeness for a long time. And only in the past few years have they gotten pretty good at delivering figures of Luke that look like Luke.  Farm boy Luke has stuck out in the social media crowd because he really hasn’t been done well compared to current standards. 

-LOST CAUSES - This one irks me to a degree.  When I was reporting for a couple of collecting sites there was all sorts of talk about the Tonnika sisters.  I think I figured out what the deal was, and I maintain that it seems like a lost cause, no matter how many petitions circulate. 

-CHARACTER CAMPAIGNING - Sometimes this actually works.  Because there was a pretty substantial petition for Velken Tezeri that got some traction in the community.  Lo and behold, now we have him.  And numerous people on social media have been trying to find that next character to launch a social media campaign to get them made.

-OBSESSING OVER SOME DETAILS - In some of these crowds it seems like some people think they’re design engineers.  And the obsessive focus on hyper articulation is over the top.  The conversations about hip joints have been farcical.  When the TVC Endor Leia was released you would think that Hasbro had committed a war crime because the figure didn’t have wrist articulation, but did have swivel forearms. 

I think part of the reason that the conversations have evolved along these lines is because of how the line has been shaped during the Disney era.  5POA figures were launched as a cost cutting measure, but also to keep prices down.  We also learned at that time that backgrounders were far less likely to sell with casual buyers.  The trooper focus has gotten pretty crazy.  And tooling dollars seem to be scarce, so we get more repaints and reissues.  But we have also gotten some amazing figures.  I didn’t think Hasbro could really improve on Darth Vader.  But then the version from the OWK series came out and it was a game changer. 

I don’t think all of the social media conversations are ridiculous.  Some are definitely out there, and they’re missing the forest for the trees.  But some of it has brought some positive developments.  Yet I agree with a core point here - the line lacks the richness of character selections that we got pre 2013. 
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: P-Siddy on November 1, 2023, 05:22 PM
-LOST CAUSES - This one irks me to a degree.  When I was reporting for a couple of collecting sites there was all sorts of talk about the Tonnika sisters.  I think I figured out what the deal was, and I maintain that it seems like a lost cause, no matter how many petitions circulate. 

I would love to have the Tonnika Sisters in TVC, but I think the BTS photos of them being called Star Whores probably makes it tough for Hasbro to touch...  I do wonder if the two showed up on a D+ show if that would change that, but that history might be hard to wash away.  You are probably right that it's a lost cause, Nick, but one can only hope.  I suppose that's why I still pick them in my wishlists.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2023, 06:02 PM
I maintain that it's so absurdly dumb to have that be the reason.

They can write anything they want about those two and what they're doing... make them ambassadors, undercover agents, bounty hunters just like everyone else...  All they have to do is put a bio on the package or a website and voila, that's what they are.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 1, 2023, 06:09 PM
To me the Tonnika situation comes across more as a workplace harassment incident linked to one of the most important movie franchises in history, and far less about an EU backstory that was seedy.  Why expose the Star Wars IP to that kind of potential PR problem in order to make an insignificant amount of money on two action figures?  I’m not even in risk management and I can see that it’s an avoidable issue. 

If people want them in a collection?  There are people making custom kits of them.  I would be okay with going that route.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2023, 06:20 PM
We are straying way off topic but...

I think the BTS photos of them being called Star Whores probably makes it tough for Hasbro to touch...

(https://jedidefender.com/jsmentek/cantina_aliens/tonnika_sisters_mugshot.jpg)

This pic makes me laugh every time...

make them ambassadors, undercover agents, bounty hunters just like everyone else... 

They already did - even gave them the classic EU connection to OT main characters....
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-sisters

"The duo worked odd jobs for anyone who would hire them. They were in the cantina that fateful day on an assignment from Jabba the Hutt to bring in Han Solo. (The sisters were well-acquainted with the smuggler, as well as another infamous scoundrel, Lando Calrissian.)"

I think they even had them in the most recent EU book with Han and Leia getting married, whatever that was called.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2023, 08:11 PM
Ok fine I give up. 

I’ll get the Stan solo ones in a few months and that’ll be that.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on November 3, 2023, 10:03 AM
And tooling dollars seem to be scarce, so we get more repaints and reissues. 

This is not just with 3 3/4.  As a Black Series helmet collector, the repaints are pretty frustrating.  Potential repaintability definitely factors into their choices.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 3, 2023, 10:13 AM
And tooling dollars seem to be scarce, so we get more repaints and reissues. 

This is not just with 3 3/4.  As a Black Series helmet collector, the repaints are pretty frustrating.  Potential repaintability definitely factors into their choices.

I can definitely appreciate that.  I have to think that the Scout Trooper helmet will eventually lead to an Ezra Bridger helmet. 

Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 3, 2023, 10:16 AM
Ok fine I give up. 

I’ll get the Stan solo ones in a few months and that’ll be that.

I got tired of figuratively banging my head against the wall on the topic.  And I think it’s time to try to find a custom builder that might offer a good Tonnikas kit.  It would give a sense of closure on the topic. 
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 3, 2023, 10:22 AM
Ok fine I give up. 

I’ll get the Stan solo ones in a few months and that’ll be that.

Can you elaborate on that? Are they 3d prints?
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Muftak on November 3, 2023, 11:49 AM
Ok fine I give up. 

I’ll get the Stan solo ones in a few months and that’ll be that.

Can you elaborate on that? Are they 3d prints?

Stan Solo makes vintage Kenner style figures, both characters we didn't get back in the 80s and bootlegs.

His figures are factory made in relatively small runs.

For the Tonnika Sisters he is using another creator's designs that are available to 3D print (I forget who, but think maybe it is the Trash Compactor design?) and putting them through his factory process.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on November 3, 2023, 12:47 PM
Yeah they'll be factory produced and will slot in with the Kenner stuff perfectly. 
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 6, 2023, 08:37 AM
We are straying way off topic but...

I think the BTS photos of them being called Star Whores probably makes it tough for Hasbro to touch...

(https://jedidefender.com/jsmentek/cantina_aliens/tonnika_sisters_mugshot.jpg)

This pic makes me laugh every time...

make them ambassadors, undercover agents, bounty hunters just like everyone else... 

They already did - even gave them the classic EU connection to OT main characters....
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-sisters

"The duo worked odd jobs for anyone who would hire them. They were in the cantina that fateful day on an assignment from Jabba the Hutt to bring in Han Solo. (The sisters were well-acquainted with the smuggler, as well as another infamous scoundrel, Lando Calrissian.)"

I think they even had them in the most recent EU book with Han and Leia getting married, whatever that was called.

I stand corrected regarding my theory!

I went to Providence, RI over the weekend for Rhode Island Comic Con.  When I was at one of the hotels for a party I recognized someone in the lobby who was taking part in a GI Joe podcast.  Lo and behold it was someone who used to work at Hasbro and has a lot of experience with the topic.  He and I had a reasonably good relationship when I was reporting on Star Wars for a couple of sites, and at SDCC 2009 he made a point of showing me Hasbro's pitch for a Funeral Pyre Darth Vader that never came to pass. 

Having said all of that...I put forth my theory about the possible reasoning behind the ban, along with talking about the scrubbed Official Site article.  He was able to say definitively that was not the reasoning behind the ban on the T sisters.  The hold on them is definitely coming from Lucasfilm.  While the team at Hasbro has completely changed over the past dozen years, the licensing people at Lucasfilm have not, and the position does not appear to have changed.  And Hasbro's goals of releasing 1 Cantina alien per year have been dashed by the shifts in the industry.  He also mentioned that a  big part of what has hurt the line was the demise of Toys R Us.

He was also aware of the current push from some segments of social media for the T sisters.  And we discussed just how prominent they are in the scene, as well as having been in the famous Adidas commercial.  But I think the point stands that they are are still a lost cause.  All of that being said, it was great to run into someone who was such a driving force behind the line during what was a golden era for Star Wars collecting, and has always been really friendly and helpful.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 6, 2023, 10:08 AM
Ugh...that stinks. It just makes no sense why they wouldn't ever create them. Every time I start planning my own customs of these two, I pull back because I stupidly assume Hasbro is juuuuuuust about to announce them. This has been going on since the mid '90s.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on November 6, 2023, 10:27 AM
I would go ahead and do it.

This customizer came up with an amazing formula!

https://customsforthekid.blogspot.com/2019/07/tonnika-sisters-created-by-elias.html?fbclid=IwAR1uHDcRW-LtjYYTaaISyX0R96jZdPEhV6idst9r9YNqS_v8YunXlLdGMz8


Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 6, 2023, 03:54 PM
Ugh...that stinks. It just makes no sense why they wouldn't ever create them. Every time I start planning my own customs of these two, I pull back because I stupidly assume Hasbro is juuuuuuust about to announce them. This has been going on since the mid '90s.

They're waiting for you to finish your customs.  Please get going on them.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2024, 09:47 AM
Pulse charged me for Finn and Cassian today. 

I’m so excited.   :-\
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 22, 2024, 05:15 PM
Got Finn and Cassian today.

Hooray.

By my count, this Finn is the first sequel trilogy figure since I moved into my house, which is just under three years ago.

Hasbro really hates those movies.


Edit… also just got shipping notices from Amazon and Pulse on the Clone and Dooku.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: McMetal on March 23, 2024, 01:49 PM

Hasbro really hates those movies.


They really do. The fact that we still don’t have a Zombie Emperor in any scale after all these years is outrageous
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on March 23, 2024, 03:04 PM
Got Finn and Cassian today.

Hooray.

By my count, this Finn is the first sequel trilogy figure since I moved into my house, which is just under three years ago.

Hasbro really hates those movies.


Edit… also just got shipping notices from Amazon and Pulse on the Clone and Dooku.

How's the Finn head? I didn't order him but I might if he's a decent enough improvement.

Super rough though...there's so few actual scenes you can even set up with the ST stuff. I actually took them out of my display shelves until they eventually make some connective tissue there, scene-wise. Poe's orange x-wing is such an awesome ship too, so it's a shame.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2024, 09:07 AM
Got Finn and Cassian today.

Hooray.

By my count, this Finn is the first sequel trilogy figure since I moved into my house, which is just under three years ago.

Hasbro really hates those movies.


Edit… also just got shipping notices from Amazon and Pulse on the Clone and Dooku.

How's the Finn head? I didn't order him but I might if he's a decent enough improvement.

Super rough though...there's so few actual scenes you can even set up with the ST stuff. I actually took them out of my display shelves until they eventually make some connective tissue there, scene-wise. Poe's orange x-wing is such an awesome ship too, so it's a shame.

Bossk's Bounty had a decent side-by-side comparison in their review.

I still think it would have been a much better release if Hasbro would have included the Skywalker lightsaber with Finn, and used a still of him from Starkiller base for the filmout.  It would have been a much more compelling image.

As for Cassian?  The new paint apps seem to be a major improvement over the original release.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 24, 2024, 11:58 AM
How's the Finn head? I didn't order him but I might if he's a decent enough improvement.

Super rough though...there's so few actual scenes you can even set up with the ST stuff. I actually took them out of my display shelves until they eventually make some connective tissue there, scene-wise. Poe's orange x-wing is such an awesome ship too, so it's a shame.

They're fine, just unnecessary. They straight up changed Finn's shoe color too.

Here's comparisons, the old ones are on the left... new ones on the right:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZTgKjjF.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QIVw1dl.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on March 25, 2024, 12:16 PM
Edit… also just got shipping notices from Amazon and Pulse on the Clone and Dooku.

Just got my notice that Dooku is now arriving on Wednesday... 
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on March 26, 2024, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the photos Rob!
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 26, 2024, 04:44 PM
Yup!
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 27, 2024, 04:06 PM
Just got the Phase I clone.  Definitely an improvement on the legs compared to before even though I can't see myself wanting too many of these.  I still like the Evolutions one and have tons of those. 
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2024, 05:52 PM
Just got the Phase I clone. 

How does the helmet look on the head in-person?  Some of the press photos made it look oversized, but others it seemed OK.

I only pre-ordered two of these until I could see better pics of the helmet.  (Hoping that the eventual troop builder 4-pack of these Phase 1 clones gets new non-removable helmet heads like Hasbro did with the Phase II troop builder set).
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 27, 2024, 06:21 PM
I didn't think much of it but now that you say it, yeah maybe it's a little large looking.  I don't think it's too bad...

(https://i.imgur.com/iQOOPKV.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Jeff on March 28, 2024, 10:27 AM
I didn't think much of it but now that you say it, yeah maybe it's a little large looking.  I don't think it's too bad...

Thanks for the pic.  Maybe a little big, but not as bad as TVC DLX Sabine's helmet.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2024, 12:42 PM
Totally, it's not egregious and the legs are a huge improvement over that last clone body.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2024, 05:20 PM
And done... Dooku just got here.  Very nice overall even though I thought we already had perfectly good Dookus.  The lightning hand is a nice touch.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Ryan on March 28, 2024, 07:00 PM
Thanks Rob. The helmet definitely looks a bit large, but like you say, not egregiously so.

I was going to cancel a few of mine based on that pic but it looks like Amazon will only let you cancel an entire pre-order and won't let you edit the quantity, lame. Oh well it's not so bad that I can't live with it on a few clones.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Nicklab on March 29, 2024, 03:52 PM
Agreed on the size of the helmet.  But I think a removable helmet will almost never look quite right since all of the AOTC troopers were digital characters - there was no need for the helmet to be functional and for an actual person to wear it.  If you look at some of the close up shots of troopers during the battle of Geonosis, it looks as if there's no way that helmet could be removed unless it split apart somehow.

But the one thing that's notably better here?  The visor on the helmet!  I don't know how Hasbro dropped the ball so badly on the phase II armor's visor.  Thankfully this looks a hell of a lot better.
Title: Re: 2024 TVC Wave 3 (New TVC Wave 35)
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2024, 05:46 PM
Agreed on the size of the helmet.  But I think a removable helmet will almost never look quite right since all of the AOTC troopers were digital characters - there was no need for the helmet to be functional and for an actual person to wear it.  If you look at some of the close up shots of troopers during the battle of Geonosis, it looks as if there's no way that helmet could be removed unless it split apart somehow.

But the one thing that's notably better here?  The visor on the helmet!  I don't know how Hasbro dropped the ball so badly on the phase II armor's visor.  Thankfully this looks a hell of a lot better.

I just wish they'd commit to doing swappable heads on any figure that needs a removable helmet. That way they can get both the normal head and the helmet in scale. Swappable heads also helps keep the helmet from getting warped and distorted. With the exception of maybe the Clone Commandos and the Boba Fetts, none of the other removable helmet figures haven't had some kind of an issue.