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Collectibles => The Vintage Collection => Topic started by: speedermike on August 1, 2011, 02:46 PM
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So Hasbro said they will be at NYCC this year promoting SW. They have been there in the past, but have not promoted anything SW. That being said, I wonder if they will have an exclusive?
I will be there. In fact, unless something business realted (at the Con) comes up, I will go to the Hasbro presentation and maybe even do a live blog or something. I've gotta use my ipad for something other than skecthing!---Mike
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I'll be there, but I seriously doubt I'll be doing anything but collecting comics all day, running to the car to empty the backpack, then collecting more comics.
At least that's how it usually goes for me.
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I should really make an effort to go to a con someday, especially this one since I live in the city. Plus, it'd be fun to meet some of the local JDers.
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JD.com will be there.
If we get enough of us that are going to attend, I will host a little "Function" for us.
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When is it?
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I'm thinking about going since I'm just 90 minutes away in NJ.
I'm kinda hoping that Hasbro is planning on having show exclusives. I know I should hit myself for thinking that, but it kinda goes hand-in-hand.
Would be cool to be able to get a sneak at some stuff early for a change.
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Ed...I think it starts Oct 13
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I'm almost definitely attending. Hasbro's Star Wars team being there sealed the deal for me. I've passed on this show the past few years but that's been due much more to scheduling conflicts than anything else. It's nice to have a show of this magnitude that's local.
And yes, the show begins on Thursday, October 13th, and runs through Sunday, October 16th.
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Cool that JD will be there, too. I'll have to convince the wife to let me have some geek time (along with some spending priviledges). Any days that people will be going?
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I already bought plane tickets for me and my wife.
She will be running around town while we do "geek" stuff.
But we are there from the 13th to 16th.
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Passed it along to my wife and she said, "Sure, we can go." Hmm, not sure if she'd be able to withstand the sheer geekness of it all.
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I will be there on and off all of the days. My graphic novels are coming out in January, and I will be doing some unofficial promotion work. However, I don't know what day Hasbro's panel will be but we should all try to get together for that.
Update. I won't be there saturday.
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I will be there on and off all of the days. My graphic novels are coming out in January, and I will be doing some unofficial promotion work. However, I don't know what day Hasbro's panel will be but we should all try to get together for that.
Update. I won't be there saturday.
I get professional credentials and will be there at least Saturday but, likely, all three days promoting. When the time is right, I'll let you all know what. Hopefully you'll all be interested.
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Seems like a good sized group is going and alot of you guys have "Business" there.
If we can get a headcount (and feel free to bring your "Plus 1"), I will have either a happy hour or dinner arranged if there is interest.
Heck even if JD.com buys the first Round, it would be worth it.
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The wife and I will probably go on Saturday. But whatever day works for meeting up for everyone else, I'm sure I can swing downtown to meet up (since I'm only about 20min by metro).
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Captain Piet...would love to know what you do and what you are promoting.
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Ok, I got my press pass.
What that means for the guys in the NYC area or that are attending the show? A JD.com get together of some sort with at the minimum the site buying the first round, maybe dinner. I'll need one of our "locals" to give us ideas.
What that means for the guys not in the NYC area wanting coverage? Sadly it is me and not one of the other guys with some photography training....so grainy pictures of stuff I like or find funny.
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We have plenty of time to teach you about the macro zoom, Paul! :D
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What that means for the guys in the NYC area or that are attending the show? A JD.com get together of some sort with at the minimum the site buying the first round, maybe dinner. I'll need one of our "locals" to give us ideas.
Depends on how pricey you want to get. ;) I'll defer opinions as I'm new to the area and really don't know the area of the Con.
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Should be fun.
I'm wondering what Paul's getting into at the show. :-* Watch out for Howard Stern's crew doing mock interviews, is my advice. ;D
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They need to watch out for us doing our own mock interviews.
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heh
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Going by the SDCC schedule, Hasbro presented on Friday. I'm hoping they do the same this year. I will look around for some places close to the Javitz center, then send them around. I really would like to meet some of you this year.---Mike
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Would Hasbro have it stuff on Saturday, too, or is it a one day deal? I was thinking stuff might happen on Friday and maybe I'd be able to slip down then (since Mom-in-law will be in town to watch the kids) to see it.
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Let me know when you guys are around. I'm not sure if I'll be attending the show this year, but I'm definitely interested in grabbing a drink or two.
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Would Hasbro have it stuff on Saturday, too, or is it a one day deal?
If Hasbro has a display, then it's usually there the whole weekend. But presentation/sildeshow/Q&A deal (if there is one) would most likely be Friday based on the past cons like a few others have said...
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Would Hasbro have it stuff on Saturday, too, or is it a one day deal?
If Hasbro has a display, then it's usually there the whole weekend. But presentation/sildeshow/Q&A deal (if there is one) would most likely be Friday based on the past cons like a few others have said...
Thanks, Jeff.
I also remembered about this website my wife was recommended: www.menupages.com (http://www.menupages.com). Might be useful in finding something.
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Wow! Mark Hamill on the guest list!
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Has there been any official word on what those exclusives mentioned in their press release will be? I'm guessing they just made more of the SDCC stuff and are hesitant to say until the last possible moment.
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Hey P-siddy,
Thanks for the email. Did you get my response?
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Hey P-siddy,
Thanks for the email. Did you get my response?
Yes, I did. I'll reply soon. Glad to see you found the thread.
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Has there been any official word on what those exclusives mentioned in their press release will be? I'm guessing they just made more of the SDCC stuff and are hesitant to say until the last possible moment.
Nothing I've seen. And we're less than a month out from the show, so I think the chances of a Star Wars Hasbro exclusive might be on the slim side. But it will be cool to see what's new from Hasbro while we're there. I'm going on the weekend.
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Mark your calendars!
Hasbro Star Wars Action Figure Panel
Date: Friday, October 14
5:00 pm - 6:00 pm (Eastern, obviously)
Location: 1A23
Join members of Hasbro’s STAR WARS Marketing and Design team as they discuss current and upcoming toys and action figures and reveal some never before seen upcoming figures!
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I knew that Hasbro would probably have their panel on Friday but I was really hoping for Saturday as I won't be there till then. The Transformer and MU panels are on Sat, though, so maybe I'll cover those.
E...
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Hasbro revealed the first NYCC exclusive today... but it's not Star Wars. It's the Nerf N-Strike Barricade RV-10 Special Edition Transformers Bumblebee Blaster, a companion piece to the Optimus Prime nerf blaster they had at SDCC.
If there is going to be a Star Wars excluisve, I'm guessing the reveal will be pretty soon...
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I'm shaking with anticipation at what I can neither afford, nor wait online for! ;D
I'm honestly thinking it won't be anything flashy, but I also do not believe it'll be more SDCC exclusives.
Vinty ROTS Clones? You betcha. They have a special NYCC Exclusive green (or yellowish, depending) helmet. It's designed to match the urine on the subway.
When their supply runs out, they plan to give away random figures from Wave 1 and 2 of the Vintage collection. :-X PR baby.
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Urine on the subway? Don't get all John Rocker on us. =) Maybe in the 70s, but NYC is pretty clean and tidy these days. So, I guess we should all at least get together for the Q&A on Friday afternoon.
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Yeah anybody wanna help me out at the show?
As JJ and Jeff and Rob can attest I am pretty useless at Show. And factors have conspired against us getting more than just me there.
I had a Hot Dog from a Street Vendor the first year, Pizza at a Pizza place last time.... this year I don't have mapped out, but certainly some "toursity" "cliche" thing... Carnegie Deli?
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Yeah anybody wanna help me out at the show?
As JJ and Jeff and Rob can attest I am pretty useless at Show. And factors have conspired against us getting more than just me there.
I might be able to help out... what do you need help with? (Perhaps I should phrase this with the question first, and then volunteer). ;)
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I had a Hot Dog from a Street Vendor the first year, Pizza at a Pizza place last time.... this year I don't have mapped out, but certainly some "toursity" "cliche" thing... Carnegie Deli?
If you want a good deli, I'd recommend Katz's, which is downtown on Houston Street (at Ludlow). The place has been there since 1888, and it's a New York institution. But it's not any kind of walking distance from the Javits center.
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Urine on the subway? Don't get all John Rocker on us. =) Maybe in the 70s, but NYC is pretty clean and tidy these days. So, I guess we should all at least get together for the Q&A on Friday afternoon.
A guy I follow on Twitter loves to post his morning (albeit very early morning) commute to work pictures from time to time... The pictures are comical, but disturbing most of the time. :) NYC's subway isn't alone by any means... The DC one has its moments too, and I got to witness some fun stuff on the el in Chicago too first-hand. I think it's just something you sometimes have to deal with.
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I'll be in NYC that week and attending Comic Con. I'd love to meet up with whoever from JD will be there, and also get some pointers, because this is my first trip to the city. :)
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I'll be in NYC that week and attending Comic Con. I'd love to meet up with whoever from JD will be there, and also get some pointers, because this is my first trip to the city. :)
What day are you showing up at the Con (and NYC)?
I guess my pointers are if you want to see the 9/11 Memorial, you have to get tickets (free) in advance. To be sure they don't 'sell' out for the time you're gonna be here, I suggest reserving your time now. If you want to do other touristy things like go up the Empire State Building, tickets are a bit cheaper online, and the ESB tickets are good for a year, so it's not like you have to worry about when you are getting there. The Statue of Liberty is pretty much an all day affair and tickets go fast for the morning times. Plus they are going to close down the statue at some point soon (don't recall the date) for a year.
I think Paul's going to arrange a get-together on one of the nights.
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Sorry I can't help with the touristy stuff. I did take my boys to the Empire State Building recently. It takes a long time to get through all of the lines, but on a clear day it's worth it.
Would friday night after the Hasbro presentation be good for people to get togteher?
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Hasbro revealed the first NYCC exclusive today... but it's not Star Wars. It's the Nerf N-Strike Barricade RV-10 Special Edition Transformers Bumblebee Blaster, a companion piece to the Optimus Prime nerf blaster they had at SDCC.
If there is going to be a Star Wars excluisve, I'm guessing the reveal will be pretty soon...
Getting closer... today's reveal was a Marvel one - NYCC Compound Hulk (http://marvel.com/news/story/16720/new_york_comic_con_2011_hasbros_exclusive_compound_hulk_toy)!
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Friday would bel great for a get together. I got my ticket for the memorial. Trying to plan the rest...
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Cental Park is also pretty cool. It's huge, but I like the area around the Boathouse personally with the lakes. Brooklyn Bridge is about 40 minutes if you want to walk it round-trip.
Another thing about the Statue of Liberty is that all the tickets to the crown are sold out until it closes. I think that'd be the only way to go. I went when my parents were here and just went up the pedistal. I guess the museums interesting, but the pedistal just gives you a view of Manhattan/Brooklyn and Jersey. You could save some money and just do a boat tour of the area.
The Met is a bit of the way from the Center (along with Guggenheim) but might be worth checking out if you're into art. A show? Depends on the time and money you have.
Are there any ideas that you have?
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The museums are definitely of interest. I write, so any bookish ideas would be up my alley. I'd love to see the statue of liberty... Might be ok without the crown.
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Getting closer... today's reveal was a Marvel one - NYCC Compound Hulk (http://marvel.com/news/story/16720/new_york_comic_con_2011_hasbros_exclusive_compound_hulk_toy)!
Hate to jump in here since I'm not attending, but I might be begging one of you to snag this for me. ;)
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Not sure if I can make the Q&A, but I'm definitely interested in hanging out Friday.
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Perhaps a loot swap would be good, if anyone finds new figure outside of Manhattan?
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If there is going to be a Star Wars excluisve, I'm guessing the reveal will be pretty soon...
According to Derryl Depriest (via the Forcecast (http://www.forcecast.net/story/home/Collectors_Edition_September_2011_140819.asp)), there is no Star Wars exclusive for NYCC. One less thing for folks to worry about I guess...
Also in that podcast, Derryl confirms that NYCC will have a LOT ("a ton") of TPM3D reveals - movie line, vehicles, a new previously unmentioned sku, etc. It sounds like they arer pretty much showing all their Spring 2012 cards at NYCC and rendering 2012 Toy Fair meaningless for the most part.
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Wow, I wonder if that's going to be the norm from now on with Toy Fair, or what? I'd be fine with changing from February to October if for no other reason than traveling should, in theory, be better.
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Well, I would have been willing to help people out if there had been an exclusive.
Since this is my first con... what should I expect? Long lines...
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Probably, but from what I gather, the Hasbro stuff's easy enough to get into if you're going to that.
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I guess vendors selling comics is obvious, some celebrities.
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Yeah, can't say I've ever been to a big CC to give you that scoop... I just always think of it like the lines at Celebration though, when I picture it. Long, boring, and making you think you're missing something better going on somewhere else, haha.
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Also in that podcast, Derryl confirms that NYCC will have a LOT ("a ton") of TPM3D reveals - movie line, vehicles, a new previously unmentioned sku, etc. It sounds like they arer pretty much showing all their Spring 2012 cards at NYCC and rendering 2012 Toy Fair meaningless for the most part.
Depends on what 2012 looks like... I mean, all that TPM 3D stuff probably will be on-shelf with the post-holiday reset at all the major stores.
They can still show off SDCC exclusives if they feel like doing that again, whatever Vintage waves got bumped from the end of 2011 that they didn't reveal yet, new Clone Wars, whatever new exclusives will be hitting in the Spring (if any)...
...and a lot of Avengers stuff. So much Avengers stuff.
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I was thinking maybe Hasbro is looking at abandoning Toy Fair some?
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Also in that podcast, Derryl confirms that NYCC will have a LOT ("a ton") of TPM3D reveals - movie line, vehicles, a new previously unmentioned sku, etc. It sounds like they are pretty much showing all their Spring 2012 cards at NYCC and rendering 2012 Toy Fair meaningless for the most part.
No love for the Clone Wars line? There's gotta be something new they can show off, even if it's the next 1-2 waves of figures after Wave 12. There's no way Hasbro doesn't have that stuff planned out already.
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But they said they'd mostly be core characters from the series, so who wants 5 more different Obi-Wans and Anakins? If not more.
The rest being clones, and their 2d cousin.
Absolutely no new Separatists, you can count on that.
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It's a kid-focused line... Like Legends/Whatever this new one is with light-up figures that walk/talk/act as a flash drive/take your SAT's for you. The cores are the way of the world. Hell, core guys are anchors/necessities in the Vintage line... Just look at any wave for that.
A wave of weirdness probably wouldn't do too well, it's tough to argue with that. But CW will probably go on as it has, with the odd "Seripas" or "Baddie of the moment" tossed into the line, while mains and clones anchor any given wave... and some Battledroids so they have something to shoot.
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I got a chance to listen to the Collectorcast on the way to work today as well, pretty good info there. I'm interested to see the Movie Heroes line, just to see what it is, and it also sounds like there will be a pretty good amount of reveals at NYCC.
As far as CW, from what I gathered Derryl made it sound like it would continue to be kid-focused and "core character" oriented. He also said that next year would be even more focused than this one, so it sounds like figures like Seripas will really just be a here and there thing from now on. Probably similar to this year, or maybe even a little more streamlined. They did actually ask about the Nightsisters as well, and it didn't sound real likely (although they mentioned possibly as a realistic figure in the vintage line).
He did mention vintage through 2012, but wouldn't confirm anything for 2013. Not that it means anything, as he said they are just planning that year now, but he did mention that eventually it may get a rest so they can bring it back again later without it getting stale (or something like that). Definitely looking forward to NYCC though, and curious to see what next year will offer. It sounds like these next few (six?) years will really be focused on the 3D release of the year.
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Bought my Friday ticket today. Do you still need help, Paul?
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Less exclusives next year for all Hasbro brands. Maybe a good thing? On the other hand, maybe not...since their picks for mainline offerings are rigid.
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I dont mind the vintage line going on hiatus, I actually think there should only be one movie line at a time. Either vintage should fill the pegs, or another movie line to replace it like this upcoming Heroes line. I also think its great that exclusives will be reduced in 2012 - there is simply way too much out there as it is, so I'd enjoy seeing everything scaled back.
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I don't mind the scaling back either, at least for the most part. I noticed that Derryl did mention that although we usually get around 36 figures in the Vintage line in a given year, next year would probably push past 50 since they will be re-releasing some of the harder to find stuff. I can't say I'm a big fan of multiple lines either, and sort of wish things could/would be condensed down. That being said, it would be boring if we just had CW (which is a nice line) and this new Movie Heroes line on the pegs full of action features. We've yet to see how obstrusive they might be, but from the sounds of things so far they won't be as "collector targeted" as TVC.
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According to Derryl Depriest (via the Forcecast (http://www.forcecast.net/story/home/Collectors_Edition_September_2011_140819.asp)), there is no Star Wars exclusive for NYCC. One less thing for folks to worry about I guess...
Also in that podcast, Derryl confirms that NYCC will have a LOT ("a ton") of TPM3D reveals - movie line, vehicles, a new previously unmentioned sku, etc. It sounds like they arer pretty much showing all their Spring 2012 cards at NYCC and rendering 2012 Toy Fair meaningless for the most part.
Well - that's good news, now I just have to decide whether or not I even want to deal with the headache of going to a convention...
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As of today, I will be at the show on Friday. So, how do we all recognize each other. I'm easy to spot at a convention, I never wear t-shirts! I'm looking forward to the Hasbro panel, as I've never been to one before.
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Well - that's good news, now I just have to decide whether or not I even want to deal with the headache of going to a convention...
Wow, you have the opportunity to go to a convention and consider it a headache? That's too bad.
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I'll be there as well with full press credentials. Hope to meet some of you guys and get you interested.
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We should makea tally and see what days people will be there:
Friday
Paul
P-Siddy (Steve)
speedermike (Mike)
Saturday
Sunday
Paul, any more word about the meet-up? Or are we just going to be spontaneous?
Mike, I think I'm going to wear my gray Tee that says Champcar on it. I don't think too many people there will have a shirt that has a defunct racing series on it.
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I will be there Saturday, but will be in town starting Thursday.
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I'm going to try to meet up with you guys on Friday. As I said, if I can't make the show, I'll meet you guys after for a drink (or whatever the plan is).
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I'm going to wear a black tshirt with Wolverine on it and not bathe... I should stand out right?
Or, I'm getting a shirt printed up that says Jedidefender.com on it. If you find me you get drink tickets.
Who knows....
Yes once we get a list of who is going to be in and around I will PM you guys my Cell Phone number (feel special yet?) and we will try to hook it up.
I was going to try to set something up at a bar, but instead we can just figure it out when we get there.
Michael Rex, be warned my wife wants to meet you.... and she will probably come to the Happy Hour so everybody feel free to bring a plus 1....
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Mike! You charming scoundrel! ;)
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I'm going to wear a black tshirt with Wolverine on it and not bathe... I should stand out right?
Or, I'm getting a shirt printed up that says Jedidefender.com on it. If you find me you get drink tickets.
Who knows....
Yes once we get a list of who is going to be in and around I will PM you guys my Cell Phone number (feel special yet?) and we will try to hook it up.
I was going to try to set something up at a bar, but instead we can just figure it out when we get there.
Michael Rex, be warned my wife wants to meet you.... and she will probably come to the Happy Hour so everybody feel free to bring a plus 1....
I just don't know what my availability will be guys given the amount of work I'll be doing. I will try to meet up though.
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Looks like Transformers gets another NYCC exclusive (http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/7/3/8/6/3/NYCC-2011-Exclusive-Transformers-Prime-Special-Edition-Collectors-Set_1318348691.jpg)...ugly as hell, but ya...nice packaging and the lil NY t-shirts are um, ok. Better then a Nerf gun though I suppose,
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So, you saying you want one, Mikey?
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Anyone planning on waffleslappin Hasbro for not delivering on their promise of lots of new product?
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Hey guys,
Our weekly Ph.Geek.com podcast went up today and it is really a prequel to our coverage this weekend of the New York Comic Con, so you may want to check it out. Last weekend we went to the Garden State Comic Con to kick off the con season before it peaks locally with NYCC. Anyway, feel free to check out the site and maybe answer our weekly question or participate in Weekend Free Writes. Podcast can be found through a link on Ph.Geek.com, through iTunes or at http://phgeek.podbean.com/. Look for us at Comic Con in our Ph.Geek polos for stickers and other geeky things to get excited about.
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Looks like the JediInsider (http://jediinsider.com/images.php?mode=view&album=2011_New_York_Comic_Con%2FHasbro%2FPre-Event&pic=IMG_6382.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0&sl=) crew was able to get some preview pics...
- "Movie Heroes" Light-Up Saber figures
- Hoth Luke!
- some sort of funky mini-figures (?)
- closer look at TVC Wave 11 - deleted scene figs
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Methinks Paul is "back" now that there's a new Death Star Trooper coming.
:P
Love the deleted scene guys still.
Light up saber figures are really bad looking on the light up arm but nothing unexpected IMO. Nice Obi headsculpt though. Really sharp. Since I have an "ultimate" (or close) Obi and QUi Gonn, I'm not terribly disappointed in the light-up figures.
They're a novelty, and at today's prices, one that I can easily pass on for the most part and not really regret it at all.
Hoth Luke = incredible looking even though you can't see his head. I'm geeked for him regardless. He's long overdue in this line, at this level of quality. Another great hat to swap on some Troopers too.
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Hoth Luke :D
Light Up Figs ::)
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Luke looks awesome, although it kind of looks like he suffers from WSMSS (Weequay Skiff Master Shoulder Syndrome) :P.
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Death Star Trooper...nice. No wonder they drug out the current mold twice this year, last milking of it. Something to look forward to...when it's actually released...this time next year. :P
Is there another new kiddie line? How many do they need?
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My son will be all over those light up figures.
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Yeah the shoulders on Luke are kinda disappointing. I'm much more excited for the Death Star Trooper. Looks way more proportionate than the original, and really makes that old one look like a mess. And I actually like the 30AC Trooper!
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Bearing in mind they're prototypes too... most likely.
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Looks like Hoth Luke has a ball joint in his torso... could be good for hunched riding positions on the tauntaun.
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Well with those shots and The GI Joe 7 packs, my trip to New York just got superfluous. Canceling the flight to save for Death Star Troopers. I may take my 30th AC version for size comparison.
And those little things are "squenkies" if I had to guess.
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Maybe the little figures tie into that Superhero Squad type cartoon they are making.
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Wow! I actually like the current DST, but I plan on getting a bunch of the new ones!
The light up saber figures suck. But whatever, I'm not the target demographic for those.
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I'm leaving for NYC today - PM me with details on a JD get together. Looking forward to it!
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Sitting on the runway. I guess there are issues about landing up I the NYC area, something about traffic.
Assuming my socks stay dry when I get there, should have some day 1 photos tonight.
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Sitting on the runway. I guess there are issues about landing up I the NYC area, something about traffic.
Assuming my socks stay dry when I get there, should have some day 1 photos tonight.
Hey Paul, Could you please do what you can to find out what is underneath the Hoth Luke's scarfs. Thanks and love your board.
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I bet those little guys are made to cash in on the cute collectable stuff like Trashies, or even Mighty Beans.
See you guys friday.---Mike
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That DST is cool and all but I really wish they would have went with a Death Squad Commander instead :'(
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Like the Battlemat game and how jazzed they were for that? :)
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Wasn't there some Hasbro thing planned for 5-6pm today? Or is that tomorrow? Seems like some new stuff is starting to leak out already, Adam P had some good scoop on the new Naboo fighter.
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Hasbro had a get-together if you were in town last night.
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A few more Hasbro pics (http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/nycc-first-photos-hasbro-booth) are floating around out there...
- looks like both Ani's and Sebulba's Pod Racers are making a comeback
- was anyone out there asking for a Vintage packages AT-AP from RotS? ???
- looks like we'll see Maul/Speeder and Droid/STAP in a TPM packaged DLX sets
- Some new 2-packs are being shown... I wonder if these is what were meant by those "sith 2-packs" that were rumored a while back?
And from Adam Pawlus Twitter:
- the new 2012 Naboo Fighter has an Astromech socket
- there will be a TPM Astromech Battle Pack
- and there will be a Dewback in a TPM box
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Those 2-packs look like easy passes... Same with a couple other things. Could be a relatively inexpensive spring for me. I can't see buying more STAPS when the original is so cheap ya know?
I'm more intrigued by the TPM packaging. I won't buy the repack QGJ and Obi unless there's some kind of sale (or unannounced price drop), but it'd be swell having their cards handy if for nothing more than a nice "complete" look of cardbacks ya know?
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Looks like a lot of money to be saved with those E1 vehicle reissues, movie heroes (repacks) and 3 figure battle packs.
I already don't like the CW figures on the Maul card. What a blended mess those pegs will be.
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Yeah, I was having a little trouble figuring out what the deal was with those cards/CW. Odd looking. I think CW will be taking such a backseat for a while though it almost makes a little sense, but yeah... should be messy pegs. They're a mess now though anyway so what's the difference I guess.
Oddly, I talked to a TRU guy last month and damned if he didn't know the different card colors and what they meant. Go figure.
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Over at Toyark they some pretty good pics. like
Podrace battle packs with Anakin, Sebulba, 3PO, Pit Droids and Flags
Royal Starship Droids BP with R2, R2-B1, R2-A6, Red R2 w/ Droid ports
Dewback
Ric Olie with Trenchcoat :D
Anakin and Selbulba's Podracers
and more
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Hear the new Naboo Fighter has a droid socket now.
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THe Maul on Sith speeder...the one in the Legacy battle pack that TRU can't get rid of even with the occassional $13 sale. :P
Hasbro still thinks some the 1999 molds hold up well. I do, too...which is why there's no need to buy them again. ;)
I saw the Geonosis Battle Pack box at Galactic hunter...looks like more terrible molds return! On that box there's a small image for the Rebel Heroes one with what looks like the 2006 Han Solo....yes, the COMM-TECH mold returns! ::)
The 3D glasses part is a brilliant marketing move, if you have them on, it almost makes this junk look good. (Nothing can make the packaging look good.)
Some Republic Clone Trooper set with what looks like the bomb squad clone, and 2 others, not sure its Clone Wars or not.
The display 501st trooper has a super sized helmet...hope that's not the final product.
I forget they were even making Nom Anor.
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I'm back at the Hotel, posting Pics.
Probably stuff you've seen before, but who cares, I took pictures and you guys are gonna look at them and like it.
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^^ That's cool because JD always posts detailed pics of stuff like articulation that you never get from the other sites. I always attributed that to Jesse James' articulation fetish. :P
Anyway, I'm pretty insulted by those battle packs and Sith 2-packs. Mainly the Battle Packs. I haven't bought a BP in years, but that Geonosis set is just unacceptable. There is no excuse for a BP with a Jango and an Obi-Wan sculpted in 2002 to be released in the year 2012. The 2 packs aren't as bad, but they're still going to clog pegs. Were they store exclusives or not?
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Head to our Facebook page for my pics. It was the fastest upload option.
I will take reshots and requests tomorrow.
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That DST... Wow. Lots of potential there.
Scott, you may get your wish on that one because I'm thinking repaint is inevitable. He even has the code things in his pockets, which the Death Squad Commander had (not so sure on the grunts having those).
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The Luke has the face/hat scultped together on this one. The giant scarf is removable as well as the goggles.
I will try to engage someone tomorrow to see if he is scarred or not.
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"Imperial Navy Commander"? What are the chances they pack him with an alternate hat like they did the RFT so they can card him like the Kenner Imperial Commander? Though that looked like Veers on that old Kenner card, it would be super-cool if we get the regular Navy hat with him too. Even more army building potential that way...
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Yeah I'm really geeked to (hopefully) get a hat with him. Like their 12" figure was, ultimately.
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Cracken was demoted to Colonel.
Why do the Dewback and droid fighter say 2 of 2 and 1 of 2? Exclusives?
The under the cloth Battle Droids has a game stand...hopefully an Episode 1 battle droid 2-pack is coming. If it's not a two-pack...then >:(
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Why do the Dewback and droid fighter say 2 of 2 and 1 of 2? Exclusives?
Yes. Everything on that shelf is an exclusive.
http://www.banthaskull.com/images/NYCC11/nycc11_043.jpg (http://www.banthaskull.com/images/NYCC11/nycc11_043.jpg)
Darth Malgus in upper left corner.
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The Luke has the face/hat scultped together on this one. The giant scarf is removable as well as the goggles.
I will try to engage someone tomorrow to see if he is scarred or not.
I am hoping he isn't scarred, but I wish he would with a second head with the scars.
does anybody know if Maul is new or a kit-bashed evoutions with new head, arms and soft goods ?
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that Naboo Droid set is pretty cool, as is the Podrace pack with finally a removable Podrace Helmet Anakin
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I don't know why they didn't do a new Anakin on the card with his Naboo Helmet and Pod race Helmet, but instead used the POTJ sculpt with new accessories in BP and a Vader 2-pack
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The display 501st trooper has a super sized helmet...hope that's not the final product.
No kidding. If they'd size the helmet down to look good, I'd get a dozen. But if that's the final product, I won't get any.
I wonder why in the hell they don't scale the helmet down for the Phase 2 grunt helmets? They did it years ago for Cody and the Airborne Trooper, and they look great! I wish someone would get in the face of the Hasbro reps and ask them this. :-\
Of note, on that display piece for the 501st trooper, you can actually see a hint of yellowing already on the helmet.
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Of note, on that display piece for the 501st trooper, you can actually see a hint of yellowing already on the helmet.
I will see if I can get a couple good lighting shots of that for you.
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May I make a suggestion? If the picture is blurry, don't post it.
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I'd love to see a picture of the new Slave Leia head sculpt, if they happen to take off the mask/coverings.
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I agree Slave Leia head improved since tlc version
I regret Hoth Luke doesn´t have removable hat
What I see about the navy commander is that he shows more straight legs
and the torso is corrected in a more solid appearnce than the tac version.
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May I make a suggestion? If the picture is blurry, don't post it.
They aren't "blurry" they are the beginning of a "Dream Sequence"......
This is what happens when I am taking photos and not Rob, Jesse or Jeff.
Also for the HangOut/Happy hour, why not that Bar in the Lobby at Javits. We will all be there anyway and don't have to spend time travelling.
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Also for the HangOut/Happy hour, why not that Bar in the Lobby at Javits. We will all be there anyway and don't have to spend time travelling.
Would some of the guys be able to get in if they don't have tickets for tonight but want to hang out?
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Yes, it is prior to te security portion iirc.
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Of note, on that display piece for the 501st trooper, you can actually see a hint of yellowing already on the helmet.
I will see if I can get a couple good lighting shots of that for you.
No worries, I appreciate it but I think I saw a couple now that show it's turning green already.
But - what is just as aggravating to me is that it appears as though they're still using big fat helmets. I don't get it. What a letdown. If that's the case, I went from buying about a dozen of each Phase 2 clone with the new body sculpt to zero.
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- was anyone out there asking for a Vintage packages AT-AP from RotS? ???
I'm betting this is just the first in some already released vehicles making their way into vintage packages. That part of the line doesn't seem to be doing so well from my small smaple of store checks, so maybe this is how they plan to liven it up a bit. I do think the packaging looks kind of cool.
Overall, I'm most impressed with most of the vintage wave figures. In particular, Mon Cal Pilot, Dust Storm Leia, Luke Jedi, Lil' Ani, Cracken, the Navy Commander, and Naboo Royal Guard are all fantastic. I didn't see the pictures of a vintage Dewback box, but that would be a must have for me as well.
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- was anyone out there asking for a Vintage packages AT-AP from RotS? ???
I didn't see the pictures of a vintage Dewback box, but that would be a must have for me as well.
It's not in a vintage box. (http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/hasbro/p40253-star-wars.html) It's packed in the "Maul" packaging and exclusive to Walmart.
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I like most of the vintage figures shown. I am hoping the make a grey Death Squad Commander figure someday and preferably on a vintage cardback. I like about anything with a vintage cardback so I'm in for Luke Hoth, Deleted Scenes figures, and even Maul, Kenobi, and Jinn on the TPM vintage cardback style. Of coure Kithaba and the others are nice to look forward to.
I am kind of surprised they did not show off their Naboo fighter. I want to see what it looks like. I was sort of hoping, wishing, dreaming they would make an all new podracer of some other character. Obviously they need to focus on Sebulba and Anakin, I am kind of shocked they did not throw in the figures as a pack-in though.
The light up figures are something my oldest kid will go for. I don't mind those. They look better than those Power of the Force versions. Although I always like the Emperor figure with the Force Bolts light up feature.
I'd like to get that Dewback. The Royal Starship Droics 4 pack is pretty cool IMO. I may get that for the hell of it.
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The Naboo Fighter is there, it's just under cover until tonight.
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Under the robes of the upcoming Sidious is it a clean Palpitine head? Thanks
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So, there are some pics floating around out there of the Walmart TPM figures (Ric, Aurra, Mawhonic, etc). I know there aren't too many carded collectors left out there, but the ones that are left have to be rolling their eyes at those Walmart basic figure packages with the 3D glasses attached to the cardback (http://flic.kr/p/avBF4k). ::)
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Wow...anyone notice this little gem of a battlepack (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=6707&text=&imageid=43363&box=&shownew=), using the Obi Wan Outlander club figure? Talk about a step backwards...
That aside, there's a lot of figures that I'm excited about. The Naval officer is awesome and I'm chomping at the bit for that new Jedi Luke (though I wish they'd fix his cloak...there shouldn't be sleeves). The deleted scenes figures are outstanding as well.
Is there supposed to be a new vehicle reveal?
***side note, I probably won't be able to meet up with you guys tonight, but have a blast!
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Wow...anyone notice this little gem of a battlepack (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=6707&text=&imageid=43363&box=&shownew=), using the Obi Wan Outlander club figure? Talk about a step backwards...
The thing is, in it's time that was the best AOTC Obi-Wan from that period. And in keeping that retro theme it looks like that Jango Fett may be the AOTC preview figure, too. If Hasbro wants to offer 10 year old figures in battle packs, it makes it far easier for me to ignore them.
So far things look okay. We'll obviously see more after the panel. I caught up with the SWAN folks last night after they had been in the hall and they seemed underwhelmed with what was on display then. The revisions on the pod racers look a bit better, but I was never a big fan of those vehicles in general.
The electronic Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon figures are predictably bulky. That's what comes with electronics in a figure, though. I guess we're likely to see more of this MOVIE HEROES line a little later on.
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I get the logic of adding a battlepack out there of those characters. But at least put out the most up-to-date figures of those characters. The same with this re-release of the Maul Sith Speeder. I understand putting out the Sith Speeder again but with that same Maul figure from 1999? I guess it's a cost thing.
I knew they were going to so something with 3D glasses. That did not surprise me but it is kind of funny to now see it.
Good I just want to see what the Naboo fighter will look like. I am hoping it's not a straight repack of the 99 version. I mainly want one since my son trashed it when he was younger. Yeah, I see they are going to trickle out carded figures to. Galactichunter has some images of a vintage carded Queen Amidaala and everyone's favorite podracer.....Ben Quadrinaros!!! I am sure the haters are going to be stoked to see his carded image. You are in for a treat :) LOL!
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I get the logic of adding a battlepack out there of those characters. But at least put out the most up-to-date figures of those characters. The same with this re-release of the Maul Sith Speeder. I understand putting out the Sith Speeder again but with that same Maul figure from 1999? I guess it's a cost thing.
That one actually REALLY bothers me. Hasbro could really draw some collectors in on the Maul with Sith Speeder if they just used a more up to date figure mold and some new deco on the speeder.
And they add insult to injury by including that same sith speeder Darth Maul in the 2-pack with Darth Sidious. #FAIL
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Good I just want to see what the Naboo fighter will look like. I am hoping it's not a straight repack of the 99 version. I mainly want one since my son trashed it when he was younger.
The Naboo Fighter is all new and rumor has it that it has a function droid socket which will be odd considering the design of the actual ship necessitates a special consideration for the head and legs. I wonder if the astros will enter through the bottom as well?
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I already don't like the CW figures on the Maul card. What a blended mess those pegs will be.
They're a mess now though anyway so what's the difference I guess.
So... it's looking like red inserts for the Movie Heroes and slightly differently shaped blue inserts for the Clone Wars figures is how they are going to differentiate the lines. I guess I should have picked up on that from the "works with" logo/colors on the back of Anakin's Pod Racer box (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=6715&text=&imageid=43423&box=&shownew=). At least the inserts are larger and more noticable than the current orange stripe that separates them.
The Naboo Fighter is all new and rumor has it that it has a function droid socket which will be odd considering the design of the actual ship necessitates a special consideration for the head and legs. I wonder if the astros will enter through the bottom as well?
Hmmm... would that maybe tie into the fact that the "Royal Starship Droids" box set droids all look like they are using the BAD sculpt? Maybe you'll have to yank the legs off to get the astrodroid in there. :P :D
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Isn't a portion of the Naboo Starfighter shown on the back of Ric's cardback? Or was that the old version..or something else?
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May I make a suggestion? If the picture is blurry, don't post it.
You could suggest that I guess, if who is at the show were dedicating 100% of his time there to show coverage. However Paul is there on his own dime and time, and hadn't even eaten supper yet at 9 pm so he could anger people with a blurry pic here and there. ;)
Plus Paul isn't used to doing everything by himself either since he usually has us with him but I couldn't attend due to things at home. He just uploaded what he had and was running to eat, so I think it's fair to give a pass ya know?
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Panel photos are online.
Looks like movie heroes will be worse than Legends in terms of bad repacks. The ROTS Super Battle Droid...really? (Hopefully a stock photo, like the CW Battle Droid shown). A Maul that's either new or the Saga Sith training one recolored/retooled. If the photos are accurate, lots of action feature molds that we never wanted to see again. :P
Some new molds besides Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan...but are they very articulated? Doesn't look like it.
AAT, Sith Infiltrator, Naboo Fighter (Still in Starfighter asst)...no surprises...though the AAT is said to be new. Another Fighter Tank repaint for some reason.
Scant few CW additions through early spring...not surprising. Commando Boss and Phase 2 Rex.
Movie Battle packs are as bad as thought (they dug out the Saga Bespin Escape Chewie). CW one has Cut-Up in training gear, bomb squad clone and Hardcase.
Realistic CW seasons 1-3 1/2 Anakin. Meh.
Vintage boxed V-19....uh...why vintage box an EU item? ???
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OMG Aurra Sing comes with "briefcase" for lightsabers
http://www.banthaskull.com/images/NYCC11/nycc11_3_066.jpg
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Can I be the first one to say that I'm not at all impressed...repack repack repack
Like I said during SDCC, the Ep1 stuff is cool and fills a ton of holes but this show really didn't reveal anything else...no Jar Jar! Sales really must suck ass right now
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One good thing is that some of those Walmart exclusive TPM figures will be available in the Vintage line later.
New R2 spouts out 32 lines!
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Can I be the first one to say that I'm not at all impressed...repack repack repack
Like I said during SDCC, the Ep1 stuff is cool and fills a ton of holes but this show really didn't reveal anything else...no Jar Jar! Sales really must suck ass right now
A new Jar Jar is in the Movie Heroes (http://www.rebelscum.com/nycc11/hasbropanel/image11.asp) line
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One thing's for sure, they're holding stuff for Toy Fair. And they are going to have a Big Ship next year.
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Good I just want to see what the Naboo fighter will look like. I am hoping it's not a straight repack of the 99 version. I mainly want one since my son trashed it when he was younger.
The Naboo Fighter is all new and rumor has it that it has a function droid socket which will be odd considering the design of the actual ship necessitates a special consideration for the head and legs. I wonder if the astros will enter through the bottom as well?
I saw it from afar, but it appears that there is a section that flips open forward so that you can access the socket and the cockpit. Once close, I believe it's supposed to hold the droid... And the cockpit will slide open as well.
A highlight for me was turning around and almost brushing up against Eliza Dushku. >:D
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Thanks Jayson...missed that one...but, again with all of the doubling up? Seriously? That is one of their biggest problems right now with Legends/Vintage
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For instance...
Darth Maul Vintage
Darth Maul Movie Heroes Wave 1
Darth Maul Movie Heroes Wave 2
Darth Maul w/ Sith Speeder
Darth Maul Discover the Force
Darth Maul Emergence of the Sith
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So, is it just me, or does it seem like the guy/gal who ran the SW line during 2002-2003's dark days is back in charge? There is an assortment of crap that was trotted out today that makes me wonder if Hasbro even realizes what their market is anymore. Sure, the basic vintage figures look great, but if Saga Legends was "The Human Centipede" of action figure line-ups, the Movie Heroes line is easily the sequel to that film: horrible, pointless, and destined to make people vomit after only seeing brief summaries of it, much less seeing the full thing in action.
A lot of redundancy (as Scott pointed out, six Mauls at one time; there weren't even that many when TPM was first released in 1999!), a lot of rehashes (95% of which are completely useless; who among the world actually wanted a version of the 2002 Sith Training Maul in movie colors?), and a whole lot of material to warm those shelves at Wal-Mart, Target, and Toys R Us next year, while I trot over to the other side of the store and spend my money on Lego stuff, since Vintage will obviously be the red-headed-stepchild of the Hasbro SW lineup once again, and, as with this year, I won't be able to find anything new hanging around.
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The thing Hasbro made a point of was that 2012 was the year of Maul . TPM is coming out and he's returning in Clone Wars (I'm sure he'll be shown at Toy Fair for Clone Wars, so make that a seventh Maul). I think most of this is aimed at the kids collectors.
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I didn't realize that not only would they add new action feature figures, but they'd DOWNGRADE previous Legends offerings by going to worse older versions.
Lets see, I might get a repacked 30th Super Battle Droid to boost my army, but I'd never pay any real money for a ROTS one. I'm doubting that's a place holder now.
The Jet Pack Clone trooper...a mold that should've been retired permenantly. But hey, it's like getting a ROTS deluxe for only $8! :P
For future offerings, they'll bring out hunch back ROTJ Luke and screaming Mace Windu (or save that for AOTC' 3D).
These aren't for us, they are for the kids...of 6 to 8 years ago. ::)
Also, I really, really don't care what kids want. At all. Just saying.
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Jesus H. what a snoozefest!! Hasbro really dragged up a whole bunch of old crap for the legends "movie heroes" line. Not too much exciting for vintage, just a few I guess.
Hasbro's Marvel stuff has just been killing star wars lately.
That said there were a few nice vintage figures on deck for the spring, Evazan and Kithaba and the Imperial navy figure and a couple others. Guess not too exciting if I can't remember them. Maybe just because it's midnight I don't know. Oh Ben Quadinaros and Mawhonic are good.
But Marvel Universe has like 30 fantastic figures coming over the next half a year like Scarlet Witch, new Hulk, new Punisher, She-Hulk, Angel, Beast etc. which just thrashes the star wars lineup.
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I really can't get upset with Hasbro for trying something different (Movie Heroes figures with action features).
Maybe in the eyes of the average collector it does seem like a return to the "bad" days of 2002-2004 with all the action features and pre-posed nonsense, but honestly why not let Hasbro try something different? It's not like they are setting the world on fire with the current Legends set-up.
All anyone ever does around here is bitch and complain about how ****** Legends sell - "the pegs are overflowing with this crap!" If Legends are so ****** and don't sell, then why not try something different? Why not swing the pendulum back to "action features" and light-up sabers and see if that brings in the kiddos. If Movie Heroes figure sales suck ass, they can always dump it and go back to pure repacks a la Saga Legends.
I guess I see it this way. In the past two years, I've picked up at least one (if not more) of every new Vintage Collection figure and just one Saga Legends figure (Hoth Han, for my carded collection). In 2012, I'll keep buying at least one (if not more) of every new Vintage Collection figure and I'm already thinking about picking up a couple of the Movies Heroes figures, so technically Hasbro is ahead of the game with me as a buyer. :P
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I get both sides, but I'm leaning towards Jeff's thoughts mostly...
Legends sucks now, everyone hates it, and it hasn't really "worked" for some time. Why not give something new a whirl, ya know?
But overall with NYCC I was a little deflated... Moreso than the previous shows this year. I was excited by some news, but it was limited. Exclusives do appear to be scaled back now, stuff just isnt' as interesting or at least plentiful or something.
Maybe that's for the best though. This is getting way out of hand some years. Just too much junk, and so to be honest, the less I feel compelled to buy, the better I think. I'm glad to see figures returning that people want. Hasbro's acknowledging a lot by putting out figures that were tough to get, and making it a part of the presentation.
I love the E1 stuff geared at collectors too. So many gaps filled. That line may have had the aesthetics down pretty well but their figures lacked a lot of umph, and the new ones make up for it immensely.
I Tweeted pics of the Naboo pilot and Ric Olie, and will be doing a little review after the weekend, and let me say, they are superior quality IMO. The skirt flexes well by the way, so those afraid he won't fit in a naboo fighter will be pleased to learn that he easily does. It's slit up both sides, and made of very pliable plastic. All plastic skirted figures shoudl have this IMO.
But that's only some of the "good" and these are just two random early figures. There's a lot more good I think to come yet out of the other "collector-targeted" E1 figures. I think htat movie's going to get wrapped up nicely.
There was stuff to like though, regardless. I'm geeked on that...
But there was also a lot of the line shifting to kids, and in a way I didn't care for way back when. At this point it may be good, or at least less painful, since most of the new figures they do already have pretty superior sculpts out. So a bulky and dumb looking light-up figure doesn't sting so bad since he has a hyper articulated realistic counterpart. Maybe 2002 wouldn't have hurt like it did, had there been something similar at the time.
It's a lot to digest and I just got home so I'm going through stuff yet, but yeah, I'm not all doom and gloom with the line at this point. Just maybe underwhelmed, and yet somehow relieved a little bit too?
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So, there are some pics floating around out there of the Walmart TPM figures (Ric, Aurra, Mawhonic, etc). I know there aren't too many carded collectors left out there, but the ones that are left have to be rolling their eyes at those Walmart basic figure packages with the 3D glasses attached to the cardback (http://flic.kr/p/avBF4k). ::)
That's me. ::) ::) ::)
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On the whole - like that the line seems "scaled back" in comparison to recent years. Definitely a lot of stuff I can either grab only one of to have in the MIB collection (like all the re-released vehicles). Here's my thoughts broken down by sub-line...
Vintage Collection:
The good: Hoth Luke, Death Squad Trooper, Darth Malgus - nice reveals. The stuff we were shown at SDCC is still cool - love the focus on EP1 this year. Lots of ultimate versions being offered and some nice gaps being filled.
The bad: Where's Ponda Baba, Bastilla Shan & Echo Base Hoth Rebel on those "They're back" slides? Why is Barriss Offee on there? There's one of her just sitting at my local Target right now, she has NOT been hard to find. Same goes with Bespin Han, I love the figure, but he has not been hard to get either.
The huh?: Vintage Collection Vehicles - gonna wait on these, probably going to completely pass unless I find out the decos are new and improved. The paint aps on the Torrent Starfighter could have totally been improved, so here's hoping.
Clone Wars:
The good: I personally like that we're getting one more of the Training Armor clones for the squad, would be cool to see them finish them off eventually. Like the Clone Wars version of Republic Commando Boss. Good to see Aayla coming back - she was a hard-to-find figure.
The bad: Not pleased that we're not being given more opportunities to get some of the Fall '11 figures again and with all of the releases of Shirtless Savage, you mean in 2012 Wave 1, it couldn't have been the armored version instead? Also there didn't really seem to be too much "new" in there. Oh - and if you're going to give us Cody w/the super-huge backpack and a Phase 2 helmet, why didn't the recent Rex just come with a Phase 2 helmet? Why did you need to have yet another Rex release just for the new helmet?
The huh?: The Obi-Wan and Anakin figures look to be soft-goods/better articulated versions of the ones that currently clog the pegs, not sure why these versions couldn't have just been the versions they released in the first place, maybe they'd be clogging the pegs less. Also why isn't the new version of Ahsoka also making a come back? She should be consistently in rotation IMHO.
Saga Legends Movie Heroes & Discover the Force:
The good: The idea of the light-up lightsabers is cool, so gotta give Hasbro credit for trying it again.
The bad: We're going to be swimming in Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Darth Maul figures - there will be FOUR versions of each figure out there at once (MH Wave 1, MH Wave 2, TVC Wave 1, DtF Wave), I guess they've learned NOTHING from the Anakins and Obi-Wans we're constantly swimming in now between the CW and Legends lines. Also, not sure why the new Anakin and Padme sculpts couldn't have just been in the Vintage collection. These outfits are iconic to those characters and really should be represented at some point in the vintage line - hopefully they will be in the vintage collection keeps going...
The huh?: The entire concept of the "Discover the Force" wave has me scratching my head. This looks like the same thing as the Dark of the Moon Optimus Prime that came with 3D glasses only expanded out to a 12 figure wave. But why? With there already being so much cross-over between characters in the Movie Heroes wave 1 and this (five figures), it almost seems to me that WalMart would be insane for even carrying the Movie Heroes Wave 1 case. And out of the six new figures, why only put four of them on Vintage cards later in the fall? With how bad WalMart has been lately, I cringe at the idea of even being able to find all 12 of these, let a lone doubles of Ric and G8-R3 to open. And like Jman, I am totally rolling my eyes at this cardback design with the 3D glasses attached.
So all-in-all - not really wowed by anything shown, again, glad the line seems rather dialed back compared to previous years. Almost looks like they're "winding down" Clone Wars, with this being the second-to-last season, I can see them being totally out of the Clone Wars animated line by the time the 3D version of ANH hits.
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Does anybody like the Movie Heroes Jar Jar, Anakin (Podrace) , and Queen Amidala (Theed). Jar Jar looks pretty good, Amidala looks like a great sculpt except no legs articulation, and Anakin is whatever.
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Does anybody like the Movie Heroes Jar Jar, Anakin (Podrace) , and Queen Amidala (Theed). Jar Jar looks pretty good, Amidala looks like a great sculpt except no legs articulation, and Anakin is whatever.
I commented previously that the Tatooine version of Anakin and the Assault on Theed version of Padme are much more iconic versions of those characters and definitely belong to have been included in the Vintage line. So yeah, I do like them - nice improvements over the 1999 versions. I also like the new Jar Jar, I had left him off 'cause for some reason, I thought he was in the Vintage line EP1 wave, but I just looked again and saw that he's not, so yeah, I wish all three of them had actually been given the Vintage treatment instead of the "Movie Heroes" one. :-\
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Looking at some of the images of the Theed Padme, and I think I know why she's in the Movie Heroes line. I think there's an action feature with a rapelling line, harkening back to the ascension gun scene. When I see it in person tomorrow I'll be able to confirm that particular suspicion.
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Lately I've been considering hopping off the bus, so to speak, of Star Wars Hasbro collecting, and if this reveal is any indication, next year will be the perfect time to stop.
I do like the new TVC figures and the Movie Heroes Padme/Jar Jar/Anakin, but the rest? Meh overall, but I'm just flat out insulted by some of these figures. Why would Hasbro expect ANYBODY to hand over nearly $10 for a figure that was originally made in 2002, TEN YEARS after the new release? Light up saber figures aren't my cup of tea, but at least they're interesting. I can't find any positives in rereleasing crap like Sith Training Darth Maul (which most people only purchased way back when for the awesome metal lightsaber), Saga 02 Bespin Vader, Kamino Escape Jango, etc. And I can't add anything to the discussion about character overlapping between lines that hasn't already been said. Pete hit the nail on the head in regards to the Movie Heroes/Discovery lines. Wal-Marts are going to be clogged with so many Mauls, Qui-Gons and Obi-Wans that I might have to cross them off my search list like I have TRU.
I don't know, collecting hasn't been as much fun the last few years, and I'm starting to get the LEGO bug again, because they're products are actually interesting to me now. I've also been getting into buying/reading comic books lately, and not only is it more fun to me, it's cheaper too. These prices and distribution, if anything, are pushing me away.
Sorry for the personal rant, and I'll try not to let the door hit me on the way out, but I just don't see how Movie Heroes is going to magically solve the line's problems when it isn't really doing anything differently.
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Sorry for the personal rant, and I'll try not to let the door hit me on the way out, but I just don't see how Movie Heroes is going to magically solve the line's problems when it isn't really doing anything differently.
You'll be back.
They always come back.
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All anyone ever does around here is bitch and complain about how ****** Legends sell - "the pegs are overflowing with this crap!" If Legends are so ****** and don't sell, then why not try something different? Why not swing the pendulum back to "action features" and light-up sabers and see if that brings in the kiddos?
Yeah, but why not just do away with that garbage altogether? This line is an anachronism. I don't know anyone who likes it. They make poor figure choices, use poor sculpts, and command entirely too much real estate on the toy aisles. In the past 3 years I have NEVER seen anyone buy one of these figures. I can't tell you how sick I am of having to clear this dreck off the Clone Wars pegs every time I go into a store.
I know it's a pure cash grab that Hasbro always claims helps to finance their other lines but that's not compelling to me as a consumer. I really wish Walmart or Target or even TRU would start cutting back on their orders for this line and the amount of peg space dedicated to it. TVC and TCW should have at least 3 rows each and no more than 1 for MH.
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Yeah, I see Movie Heroes as a kid-target figure line and Vintage is more for the hard-core collector. Why not go for that route with action figures when you are releasing the movies in theaters again. The kids who love the movies are in the 70s and 80s are now parents that want to share the enjoyment with their own kids. So it gives something for the younger generation to buy.
The only bad thing about the light-up features is that once the batteries are dead, you can't replace them. :-\ They did say it's a long-lasting battery, though.
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Echoing what others have said....overall I'm a little underwhelmed as well. There is a lot of stuff on the way that I'm pretty excited about (new TVC figures in particular), but I'm a little worried about the amount of TPM stuff coming next year. It is nice to see the focus on a movie that doesn't get it very often, but at the same time I'm not entirely convinced that the 3D release is going to be this huge smash that all the kids will be lining up to get toys from. The nicer figures in the Movie Heroes line (Wave 2 Anakin, Jar Jar, etc.) could be tough to find if we have a ton of Wave 1 stuff shipping. I could see those easily slipping into the TVC line instead, but oh well.
The re-releasing of really old stuff just seems silly though. It seems like they had gotten away from that for the most part for awhile, but it looks like we're seeing really old version of Obi-Wan, Jango, Chewie, and Han in those battle packs, not to mention some of the other stuff shown. They have better (perfect) versions available of all those figures, why not include those? We've always complained about "repacks" over the years, but it seems like it hasn't been as bad recently. This is a return to some badness, and I could see those Battle Packs clogging the shelves quite a bit. Not a huge deal, as they are more kid focused as well for the most part, but I just don't get it. Like Scott mentioned, I wonder if sales are struggling a bit or something.
I can't remember where I read it now (it may have been a play-by-play of the Panel somewhere), but I thought they said something like 15 new CW figures for 2012 (that number may be off, but it was low). I know they can cruise on repacks for a lot of that line, but it is really getting pushed aside for the TPM push (and TVC, if that 55 number holds up - even with re-releases). Seeing as TPM is fairly universally the least liked movie of the Saga, I wonder how things will look each year as another movie is released (if successful). Might be some slim times for CW collectors.
Overall, some neat stuff shown that I'm still excited for, but it will be interesting to see how the line does in the coming months/years. Like it was said, Legends wasn't exactly tearing things up, so I don't fault them for trying something new either - and the light up saber things (although obviously not for collectors) is something kind of cool for kiddos. My main worry is that they are putting a little too much TPM stuff out there, and it might not move for awhile. They seem to think it is going to be more popular this time around or something.
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You guys are glossing over the big news...
The Squeeknie Battle guys. We got a good 10 minutes of this stuff and a preview of the commercial and were told how exciting this new segment was for us. They did assure us that this would not supplant the 3.75in line.
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Jedi Force, squeeknies things...movie heroes....everything to get the kids back...yet, CW seems to be an after thought now?
Some more lapses in logic:
Selbulba's pod is a main line release but its pilot is thus far only coming with an exclusive battle pack.
The Naboo fighter is mainline release, but its pilots are initially exclusives, and the fighter's opponent, The Vulture droid is also an exclusive.
Season 3 Ahsoka not in the CW waves. Why reship a main character?
No ARC trooper reshipping, despite CW Arc being retail gold.
The Blu-Ray 4 packs used mostly current molds, but the 2012 value battle packs will be using stuff from 8 to 12 years ago?
A battle pack saying that Jango Fett battles clone in the Geonosis Arena.
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You guys are glossing over the big news...
The Squeeknie Battle guys. We got a good 10 minutes of this stuff and a preview of the commercial and were told how exciting this new segment was for us. They did assure us that this would not supplant the 3.75in line.
LOL!
but seriously though, I showed my 8 year old and he thought they looked cool
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You guys are glossing over the big news...
The Squeeknie Battle guys. We got a good 10 minutes of this stuff and a preview of the commercial and were told how exciting this new segment was for us. They did assure us that this would not supplant the 3.75in line.
Hey, it's 130 figures in a year! I don't recall if those included the hidden/chase figures. It's funny that the panel said they didn't want to get into chase figures, but then say some pods will be 'dark' so you don't know who's in said pod and that the figure would be random.
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where is the search for Luke skywalker BP ?
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That's what I want to know too. Where is it?
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I'm thinking because it's going to be out fairly soon (found overseas already) that it just wasn't brought maybe to NYCC? Cool set though even if Han's in blue. :P
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And where is the Mandalorian Attack Transport? Is it still coming?
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It wasn't in the display case. But on the vehicle front, the Naboo starfighter looked AWESOME. So much of an improvement from the original Episode I version!
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At the Hasbro panel, they talked about the Join The Jedi contest. First thing I thought of: Star Wars Kid. Dude should win that retroactively.
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is 3PO in the Mos Espa BP new ? or a repaint ? I can't tell
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Guess I'm going to have to wait another couple of years, when the OT starts coming out in 3-D, before I'm excited about all the new product getting released. Don't get me wrong, everything from TFM looks fantastic, but I don't think I can support the PT anymore.
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Given everything else in that battle pack, I'm thinking repaint. All of those figures look like a reissue of some sort.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/nicklabatearthlinkdotnet/sw/NY%20COMIC%20CON%202011/DSC_0013.jpg)
The Pit Droids are the only thing that looks a little different, as I think they may have a new paintscheme.
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Our NYCC Image Database is updated...
New York Comic Con Image Database (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars)
Lots of fun to check out, and good shots too. Thanks to P-Siddy and Darby both for helping take pics at the show, and giving Paul a hand (he'll have more pics soon I believe). This was so last minute for us even attending ultimately, that it was nice to have some friends in NYC already to help out.
My fav thing I think is the N1 fighter. Looks to-scale... With those awesome pilots, I'll be stoked to get a couple of it if that's true.
Some early hints at the big vehicle too... Could the MTT be a reality? With a wink and a nudge it was possibly being hinted at to P-Siddy! :)
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Decent if slightly retread presence for Hasbro Star Wars at NYCC. If anything, I think they could've create more buzz with an exclusive. Obviously they care more about pushing same other lines right now, even though the 3-D stuff will hit before The Avengers, etc.
Was nice meeting a bunch of you and look forward to possible contribution and interaction at PhGeek.com.
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So why does the vintage cardback show CW Obi-Wan starfighter, but the vintage boxed vehicle is Kenobi's ROTS Starfighter. (I'd point out the irony that they are reissuing that vehicle now that they are discontinuing the ROTS "pilot" Kenobi figure from Legends/Vintage, but Hasbro does things like this all the time...)
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I'm really surprised at how much CW is getting put on the backburner it appears. I was reading through a report at JTA, saying that there are 19 figures planned for the line next year - 14 of which we've already seen (and only 5 of those are "all new"). Pretty poor showing it seems, adding in that it appears the "deluxe with vehicle" line (or whatever it is called now) is gearing more towards TPM stuff as well. Personally, I'm more into the movie stuff anyways - although I do pick up some CW here and there - but it is just surprising how little of it appears to be on the way in 2012. With TPM being the poorest received movie of the Saga, I can't imagine it will get much better in coming years with the other 3D releases.
Otherwise, some neat stuff shown at the show. TVC continues to look great, and I hope its pegs don't get overrun with movie heroes next year. I'm pretty excited about the new Naboo Starfighter, and there's some nifty other stuff here and there that looks good too. Although we don't know everything for 2012 yet, things look fairly light on the OT as far as vehicles and everything go. But, I guess we also have the other "3D" years for that - and possible Fall/Exclusive stuff. With all the repeat stuff coming, I should be able to save some money at least (or spend it elsewhere more likely - Marvel I'm looking at you).
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Even Movie Heroes is getting 24 figures, with some 18 announced already.
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So why does the vintage cardback show CW Obi-Wan starfighter, but the vintage boxed vehicle is Kenobi's ROTS Starfighter. (I'd point out the irony that they are reissuing that vehicle now that they are discontinuing the ROTS "pilot" Kenobi figure from Legends/Vintage, but Hasbro does things like this all the time...)
co-sign. And why was the Clone Wars V-19 Torrent pictured in a Vintage style box either?
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co-sign. And why was the Clone Wars V-19 Torrent pictured in a Vintage style box either?
The cynic in me says that Hasbro took note of how well the TIE and Snowspeeder sold at Target in the Vintage packaging, and they probably feel that putting old vehicles into Vintage style-boxes will sell no matter what.
My hope is that the vehicles will get a new paint ap - especially the V-19, that vehicle was way too clean in the original release.
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I'd absolutely love V-19 repaints... Different squad colors/decoes, and even just a dirty republic red one would be nice.
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So are they abandoning the whole idea of having line-specific vehicles? I don't see that the new packaging actually identifies these things as Vintage or Clone Wars related. If so, I think this is a HORRIBLE idea. The lines are already blurred too much as it is. I think a lot of collectors like the differentiation.
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We updated our NYCC Image Gallery (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/New_York_Comic_Con_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Official_Presentation_Slides) with the Hasbro Star Wars Presentation tonight.
Nice clear shots of the presentation are helpful for sure. Can't wait for some of the figures! :) Others, well, I could probably wait a while. :-X
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And where is the Mandalorian Attack Transport? Is it still coming?
I found the Mando transport at Forbidden Planet in NYC. It's coming.
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Now I'm back I can put some thoughts down.
Overall I was actually impressed with the TPM offerings. The line is sizable given this is a modest re-release and this is the least popular of the SW films overall. I think Hasbro is banking on the kids that came in with TPM getting hit by that nostalgia bug so many of us did back in the 90's. It's a gamble, but from my perspective, they are taking the opportunity to do some really cool things.
The Naboo Starfighter is pretty cool. I got to play with it a little bit when I was talking to Daryl DePriest about another possible vehicle (something very big from TPM will be at TF - we discussed specifically MTT but no official confirmation). I loved that the pilots have the trench coats. I actually geeked out over this. They are finally catching up to Ratts, Mawhonic, the last Naboo R2, just a lot of great stuff. Mawhonic is terribly underscaled though, unless I am forgetting something.
We talked a bit about the WM wave, which Daryl said would be in heavy distribution. He then showed me the other carded samples which weren't out yet (Naboo Pilot, Gungan, etc). He mentioned something about WM having a Ultimate Force FX Qui Gon saber but that wasn't at the show I don't think.
I really like the vintage offerings, especially Luke and the Navy Officer. I didn't even realize Vader was new. Daryl really insisted on the vintage distribution problems being solved going forward.
CW - I mentioned my thoughts in a CW thread, but the slim pickings are temporary. I liked what I saw, but I'm ready for more.
Movie Heroes - I liked the new TPM stuff in general. The light up figs are what they are. Maul wasn't possible due to some reason, so they went with a wrist action thing. Couldn't tell if Anakin was new, but I liked him. Padme and Jar Jar were very nice.
I'm a bit mystified by the vintage boxes. This is a separate line from the other ships - is the Naboo FIghter going to be vintage?
All in all, it was a good show and there is lots to look forward to.
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Nice run-down Darby... I wasn't terribly disappointed by the show myself, but I really wanted a lot of this E1 stuff updated, haha. I wanted a nice Jar Jar (for once), new Naboo soldiers/pilots (I'm really hoping the guy in yellow with brown hat gets updated at some point too, as well as Panaka), a new N1 Fighter that's clearly increased to its proper scale...
I'm into that stuff.
And you'd mentioned to me the "rumor" stuff and I'm geeked.
Plus seeing Malgus and CW Ani (realistic) were both awesome.
If I had one major disappointment it was Hoth Luke's hat being apparantly molded one. WTF? You've been doing removable hats on Hoth guys for a while now, but now suddenly you can't do Luke's? Why? At this price it's inexcusable.
That's all though I was really annoyed with. I liked what they showed generally otherwise... Movie Heroes, I get the point of it. I question if it'll work, but I get what they're doing. It's sort of a necessary evil.
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I noticed the new packaging for the Dewback indicates a posable tail, my version of the latest release didn't have this feature... do you think it's a retool, a repack of the POTF or a packaging error?
... you can see I'm stuck for news.
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I think the old one sort of promoted that didn't it, but it's really not functional at all? Or I thought Hasbro mentioned that it's poseable or something, but clearly it's not.
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I just had a chance to look through some of the pics. Besides Mawhonic and the new Aurra, I am going to have a pretty easy time ignoring all of the exclusives.
I like the deleted scenes Vintage figures, but other than those, I won't be hunting for much, even with all of the EI stuff. Are any of the Mauls being released supposed to be a new SA version?
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I've been AWOL for a while out here. It was nice to meet everyone in NY, and I'm sorry that my schedule didn't allow for more time together.
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I wish I could have met up with folks too. I ended up meeting someone in Brooklyn and spending most of my time there. :)
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Yeah, it was fun to meet everyone. Darby, sounds like you have a story to tell/write (names changed to protect the innocent (or guilty), of course) ;)
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I do have a bit of a story. I'll say NYC was very eventful for me in a lot of ways. :)
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Well, since we didn't get together in NYC, perhaps in Waterloo around the holidays? Are you around?
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I will be around. Ben too.
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I do have a bit of a story. I'll say NYC was very eventful for me in a lot of ways. :)
Lost your virginity, eh?
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I do have a bit of a story. I'll say NYC was very eventful for me in a lot of ways. :)
Lost your virginity, eh?
You did not just go there.
But yeah, there was a hot Starfleet chick (with her okay Starfleet friend) running about.
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I do have a bit of a story. I'll say NYC was very eventful for me in a lot of ways. :)
Lost your virginity, eh?
That would have been 20 years ago. Or before you were born, I suspect.
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Meh, you'd suspect wrong.
(Relax)