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Title: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on October 23, 2009, 09:54 PM
Wooof previously confirmed is now uber confirmed...

Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/8492-wooof_input.jpg)

Wow is all I can say!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on October 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
Yeah, that looks like it could be a heck of a figure - definitely looking forward to it.  The recent Giran/Nikto figures from the ROTJ wave were outstanding I thought, and I can't wait to see more of what Hasbro can do with Jabba's goons.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: evenflow on October 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
AWESOME!!!!! Gives me hope the legacy line will continue in some way
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 23, 2009, 11:44 PM
From the sounds of it Hasbro is going to make a strong effort to get Collectors back on board Legacy next year (Sirstevesguide):

H: Many collectors simply stopped collecting last Fall and have not yet come back (if they will). We are working hard to get them back, and we think that what we have lined up next year will be our best attempt. As long as the economy is looking better, and the folks on the sidelines feel they can join the hobby again, we promise incredible satisfaction with what we have coming up.

That was the most promising Q&A in my opinion, it shows Hasbro is trying to identify the problems and make a great stride to address issues and continue the line. The rest can be found here:
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=1934
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on October 24, 2009, 12:21 AM
Woof was my first ROTJ figure I bought back in the day and so I'm looking forward to him.  Another home run judging by the articulation count and accessories.  I can't wait to see how they do the skirt, because I really always felt the vintage was flawless.  Can it be improved?  Duplicated?  I'm anxious to find out.

The figure's certainly 10x better.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on October 24, 2009, 02:12 AM
From the sounds of it Hasbro is going to make a strong effort to get Collectors back on board Legacy next year (Sirstevesguide):

H: Many collectors simply stopped collecting last Fall and have not yet come back (if they will). We are working hard to get them back, and we think that what we have lined up next year will be our best attempt. As long as the economy is looking better, and the folks on the sidelines feel they can join the hobby again, we promise incredible satisfaction with what we have coming up.

That was the most promising Q&A in my opinion, it shows Hasbro is trying to identify the problems and make a great stride to address issues and continue the line. The rest can be found here:
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=1934

Thanks for posting that... maybe we can let go of all the gloom and doom nonsense around here now.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 24, 2009, 10:35 AM
Yeaaaaaaa! And yes, wow. Nice upgrade.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth Broem on October 24, 2009, 10:41 AM
Definately looking forward to Wooof.   ;D
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on October 24, 2009, 12:14 PM
Wow, that looks amazing.  Thanks for sharing Scott!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on October 24, 2009, 01:39 PM
Woof!  I bet he reuses the head from Giran (one of my all time faves).

I appreciate Hasbro's honesty about the retail situation, and the fact they are streamlining the line.  It's too big for the moment.  They seem to really be looking to rebound next year and I hope they do.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2009, 06:51 PM
From the sounds of it Hasbro is going to make a strong effort to get Collectors back on board Legacy next year (Sirstevesguide):

H: Many collectors simply stopped collecting last Fall and have not yet come back (if they will). We are working hard to get them back, and we think that what we have lined up next year will be our best attempt. As long as the economy is looking better, and the folks on the sidelines feel they can join the hobby again, we promise incredible satisfaction with what we have coming up.

That was the most promising Q&A in my opinion, it shows Hasbro is trying to identify the problems and make a great stride to address issues and continue the line. The rest can be found here:
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=1934

This was good to read/hear.  I mean, I didn't necessarily think the Legacy line was ending in the next couple years (Hasbro obviously has plans at least through 2011), but it is always nice to hear of a collector focus.  I hope that means lots of OT goodness, and several much-requested characters will make it out.  It does sound like they are really putting a lot into next year as a big collector push, so I do wonder what that will mean if Legacy continues to "struggle" - at least in Hasbro's eyes.  At any rate, I look forward to what they have planned, I wonder what we'll be seeing.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 24, 2009, 11:13 PM
Impressed ... Hasbro mentioned the 2010 realistic figure lineup would be exciting ... hopefully 2010 will be a good year in realistic figure sales.  :) And I like that Woof ... like him alot
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 25, 2009, 10:37 AM
Hasbro always says that the next line-up is going to be exciting. What else are they going to say?  :P
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on October 25, 2009, 12:37 PM
Hasbro always says that the next line-up is going to be exciting. What else are they going to say?  :P

If they're as good as the figures from about wave 5 of this year on have been, I believe it.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on October 29, 2009, 08:39 PM
From everything we've been seeing in the Q&A's, these figures appear to be a lock:

-Wooof
-Gamorrean Guard
-AT-ST Driver
-Wicket

As for the rest of the wave?  I'm thinking these are strong contenders:

-Admiral Ackbar
-R2-D2 - exploded (different from the battle pack version)
-Yoda - Force Spirit (new)
-Rebel Trooper - Nik Sant (totally wishlist item)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 29, 2009, 09:00 PM
Hasbro's gonna need some anchor figures for this wave - it can't be purely made up of collector-oriented figures without at least a few core characters ...

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe new takes on Emperor Palps or Yoda are made.  :o
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth Broem on October 29, 2009, 09:07 PM
Did they ever confirm that ROTJ Jabba was coming out in 2010 or 2011?  I know he would not be a figure in this wave but maybe along side this wave?  Just guessing.  Anyway I wish they would either add an updated Weequay or Skiffmaster Weequay.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on October 29, 2009, 09:30 PM
Hasbro's gonna need some anchor figures for this wave

Definitely, especially in this new "collector cut back" world they keep talking about.  I could go for a new Endor Chewie with "meat on a stick" accessory.   :D


Did they ever confirm that ROTJ Jabba was coming out in 2010 or 2011?

The official stance is that, assuming the new Dewback sells well, we'll probably see the new Jabba next Fall (2010)...

We do not have details yet, but we're hopeful it will be out in Fall 2010. If we do get the greenlight, it will be all-new. We'll have updated at Comic Con 2010 if such a beastie does materialize.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on October 29, 2009, 09:44 PM
I'd throw General Lando into the contender list.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on October 29, 2009, 09:46 PM
Sim Aloo would be a nice addition (and another vintage figure off the list).
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on October 29, 2009, 09:58 PM
I'd throw General Lando into the contender list.

They did drop a hint about Lando in the most recent Q&A.  A good ROTJ Palpatine is definitely worth pursuing, too.  They also hinted about Chewie and the Ewok hijackers, but that's supposed to be part of an exclusive multipack.

It just seems that Hasbro has covered SO MUCH ground with core characters in ROTJ that it's tough to keep those fresh.  Especially since we just got the DS2 Luke and Slave Leia.   I think we got the sandstorm figures last year because the ROTJ core character cupboard is getting a bit bare.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on October 29, 2009, 10:36 PM
I think for ROTJ, there's some key characters (or at least popular ones) that are dying for resculpts...

- Emperor Palpatine
- Gamorrean Guard
- Admiral Ackbar
- AT-ST Driver
- Endor Rebel
- Royal Guard

These ones are also ones I'd like to see them resculpt somewhere down the line:

- Weequay Skiff Master
- Mon Calamari Trooper
- General Lando
- Mon Mothma
- Nien Nunb
- Yakface
- Wicket
- Ishi Tib
- Oola

They could also look at some more all new characters as well.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on October 29, 2009, 10:57 PM
There are virtually no core characters (Luke, Han, Leia) they can do outside of repacking them.  I think Lando is likely, though I don't think we need a new one. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on October 29, 2009, 11:12 PM
For core characters I'm still looking forward to:
- Jedi Luke with Sith Lightning accessories
- Vader with Sith Lightning accessories
- New Sail Barge R2 with bar tray
- Ewok Guest/Endor Celebration Leia
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on October 29, 2009, 11:34 PM
I'm not sure how "core" a character needs to be, but I like the suggestion on the Endor Rebel Commando and we have been in need of a revised Ackbar for quite some time.  More ewoks would make sense - we're still missing some of the core vintage ones like Lumat, Warok, and Paploo, right?  I'd like to see an upgraded Ree-Yees, and General Lando would be a nice addition as well.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on October 29, 2009, 11:47 PM
we're still missing some of the core vintage ones like Lumat, Warok, and Paploo, right?

Better keep up - we just got Paploo in the recent 2-pack and we're getting Warok in the '09 Battle of Endor BP.  ;)

I'd go for a new Wicket/Logray or a Wompus/Lumat 2-pack though.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on October 29, 2009, 11:54 PM
we're still missing some of the core vintage ones like Lumat, Warok, and Paploo, right?

Better keep up - we just got Paploo in the recent 2-pack and we're getting Warok in the '09 Battle of Endor BP.  ;)

I'd go for a new Wicket/Logray or a Wompus/Lumat 2-pack though.

Yay!  That's 2 of the 3 down at least. I'm just thinking another Ewok 2-pack of some kind would fit well with this wave.  Didn't realize those two were already coming though - thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2009, 12:47 AM
Endor Commandoes, there's 3 I'd like to see...  Sergeant in Trenchcoat ala the SS 12" figure, the blonde bearded Trooper to get a resculpt of the under-articulated vested Trooper we've now gotten twice, and the vintage Trooper with the camo coat (opened) would make a nice update to that trooper.  One could also argue the POTF2 Trooper with the closed camo coat/hood makes a good candidate as well.

For me, call me crazy but I wouldn't mind seeing Han Solo...  Yes, Han Solo.

I don't care for the ball-socket torso on him from the vintage figure, so I'd happily buy an updated figure...  He could:

-have retooled legs so his holster fastens to his thigh
-retooled torso so he's not so awkward looking with the giant hole in his back
-use the new Han likeness from the Endor battlepack to get it out a bit more.

Proper blaster would be cool as well.

The torso would be the big fix though, in my view.

Leia's a needed do-over.  I could see the Biker Scout getting more articulation if they felt like putting another one out with minor tweaking to get people to buy more of the same.

I'd not mind seeing the IMperial Scanner Tech decoed in black with a generic headsculpt and a Death Star Trooper helmet as well, for the DST's on Endor that are seen running about as well.

I think like Jayson said though, General Lando's a good bet.  And Nein Numb Falcon.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on October 30, 2009, 12:56 AM
I'm okay without another Nein Nunb for a while.  I know his outfit is different, but we just got one with Wave 9 and he's one of the weakest figs in the wave IMO.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2009, 12:58 AM
I'd agree he's not a great character, but as Dressel's said, to many he's just another guy, and Nein's flying the Falcon in that other outfit, and shorter.  I agree with that, and so it's a figure (resculpt) I'd like to see, probably ahead of some Jabba goons... 

Then again, I'd really like to see some human goons from Jabba's Palace AND the Cantina/Bay94...  And they get no love at all.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on October 30, 2009, 01:06 AM
I'd go for a new Wicket/Logray or a Wompus/Lumat 2-pack though.

I would too. It's odd, but I never cared at all for Ewoks, but all the sudden I'm beginning to feel the love for the cuddly critters. Could it be I'm getting sentimental?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on October 30, 2009, 01:07 AM
I'd go for a new Wicket/Logray or a Wompus/Lumat 2-pack though.

I would too. It's odd, but I never cared at all for Ewoks, but all the sudden I'm beginning to feel the love for the cuddly critters. Could it be I'm getting sentimental?

Could be.  Or maybe you just feel like you're getting two figs for the price of one.   ;)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth Broem on October 30, 2009, 01:56 AM
Oh, I forgot about the vintage Barada.  I know they made the one with the white shirt for the Cinema Scene way back in the day.  It would be nice to get the yellow shirt version or the white one with SA like Giran and the others. 

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 30, 2009, 10:08 AM
New At St Driver? AWEsommme!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 30, 2009, 12:19 PM
I think a new Wicket is long overdue, what with being the main ewok dude and all. I'm actually surprised he hasn't seen a resculpt already considering how dated the old POTF version is at this point.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on October 30, 2009, 12:21 PM
I think a new Wicket is long overdue, what with being the main ewok dude and all. I'm actually surprised he hasn't seen a resculpt already considering how dated the old POTF version is at this point.

Yeah, but what would you do differently with him?  He's so small, there's just not a lot to offer or get excited about from a new version.  I guess you could articulate his wrists and ankles - I'd personally rather see new Ewoks than a redo of Wicket.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greg on October 30, 2009, 12:36 PM
I was also hoping that Wicket would be in the next round of Ewoks. A remake of the POTF2 2-pk with Wicket and Logray would be awesome, but it seems unlikely as Wicket would probably require a new mold. Perhaps Wicket will be considered by hasbro as an anchor character for a future wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 31, 2009, 11:12 AM
I completely agree about wicket. At this point, the vintage is a better version than the POTF2 one.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: evenflow on November 5, 2009, 10:55 PM
I saw give us a Wicket and Princess Kneesa 2-pack! That would be ultimate.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on November 6, 2009, 10:57 AM
I saw give us a Wicket and Princess Kneesa 2-pack! That would be ultimate.

Seems like there's actually a lot of love for that figure - I'm surprised she never makes the fan choice polls.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 6, 2009, 11:51 AM
I think the POTF2 Logray is actually pretty nice still. But Wicket definitely needs an overhaul.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 7, 2009, 10:42 AM
I'm not opposed to POTF2 Logray either, but wouldn't mind if he got updated after Lumat and Wicket.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 9, 2009, 03:01 PM
I still have yet to see the ewoks. I need a set to finish off the build a droid, and I like having more and different color ewoks.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on December 10, 2009, 04:33 PM
Add Oola on to this wave...so far I think we have:

AT-ST Driver
Wooof
Wicket and another ewok
Gamorrean Guard
Oola

I know Ackbar has been heavily rumored for a long time...holy POTF2!!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 10, 2009, 04:56 PM
Add Oola on to this wave...so far I think we have:

AT-ST Driver
Wooof
Wicket and another ewok
Gamorrean Guard
Oola

I know Ackbar has been heavily rumored for a long time...holy POTF2!!


I hope that is the lineup all much needed resculpts. So would Ackbar or Wicket be the anchor of the wave? ;)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 10, 2009, 08:13 PM
Ackbar could be the anchor figure, but since Hasbro's slogan these days is "For the kids," they may go with a more recognizable character. Perhaps the long-overdue evil Emperor himself?  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on December 10, 2009, 08:39 PM
Maybe Endor Han or Leia could be in there. Seems the others have been done recently.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on December 10, 2009, 10:33 PM
I'm going to say Oola is coming with Jabba, since they said she will be coming 'if all goes to plan.'  I'd say the ROTJ wave is pretty set, but exclusives are probably still up in the air somewhat.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 10, 2009, 11:52 PM
I'm going to say Oola is coming with Jabba, since they said she will be coming 'if all goes to plan.'  I'd say the ROTJ wave is pretty set, but exclusives are probably still up in the air somewhat.

I really doubt that as the Jawa with fan and dais are coming with him already according to Hasbro. For $40-$50 your are most likely not getting more than that. Do not get me wrong, I would not mind it at all as I would happily retire my POTF2 one. I would be ecstatic if we get her at all.  I really want to purge the last of the POTF2 stuff from my collection, it's too dated now. So for a slim picking year, as it's sounding to be, I really hope they redo more figures than do never before done figures for the mainline. Ackbar, Yak, Oola, Gammorean, Numb, Wicket all seriously need resculpts. Add a dash of Wooof and other newbies then I would feel satisfied. I think EV-9D9 as a BAD is coming, he would be perfect. They have the legs for him in the EU Wave Jabba Droid already. Even 8D8 would be cool as a BAD.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on December 11, 2009, 12:00 AM
I think EV-9D9 as a BAD is coming, he would be perfect.

EV-9D9 would be a cool one, but I think the plan is for B-A-D to die with the EU Wave...  from Dewback Patrol (http://dewbackpatrol.com/phpBB4/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=160l):

"there will be one EU-focused wave to close out the red/white line look, and then a gap until August when the new movie-focused line will debut. This wave will feature the last of the buildable Droid Factory figures."

Makes me wonder what (if anything) we'll be getting with those Late 2010 figures?   ???
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 11, 2009, 12:20 AM
Man, the news just keeps getting worse. The devil is in the details I suppose, good bad news catch.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on December 11, 2009, 08:37 AM
I would absolutely love the future ROTJ if it had a figure selection like JACKOFTRADZE posted 3 posts above mine.  that would be great!!!

Seriously sucks about the end of B.A.D. - best pack-in ever.  Hasbro, this pack-in got me to buy WAY more figures than ever before.  If there is gonna be no B.A.D. then Hasbro you better seriously mark down the MSRP because no other pack-in I could imagine is worth the current cost.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on December 11, 2009, 08:57 AM
Yeah, the BAD thing really sucked the cash from me this year, I bought so many figures that I probably wouldn't have otherwise just to get those droid parts.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 11, 2009, 09:19 AM
I have to agree, the BAD part made buying these figures at a higher cost, more palatable.  Buy 4 figs get an astromech, that essentially cost $4 (@ $1 a part) or $6(@ $1.50) a part depending on how you want to think about it. Buy 6 figs and get a protocol (or other 2 legged) droid for essentialy $6 (@ $1 a part).

If Hasbro plans to do away with the Build A Droid pack in, then they also need to do away with $1 off the price. These figure really should get back to the $6-$6.50 price range or lower on a daily basis and not a sale price from stores.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on December 11, 2009, 10:57 AM
I'd be pretty happy with the wave Scott posted, even if Ackbar is in the final slot.  A lot of those cover some much-needed POTF2 resculpts, and ones I've been hoping we'd see for awhile now.  It does seem like it needs some sort of "main character" anchor, but maybe that will be the "Greatest Hits" side of things and they'll repack a VTSC Endor Han, the recent Jedi Luke, or something else.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 11, 2009, 12:03 PM
I have to agree, the BAD part made buying these figures at a higher cost, more palatable.  Buy 4 figs get an astromech, that essentially cost $4 (@ $1 a part) or $6(@ $1.50) a part depending on how you want to think about it. Buy 6 figs and get a protocol (or other 2 legged) droid for essentialy $6 (@ $1 a part).

If Hasbro plans to do away with the Build A Droid pack in, then they also need to do away with $1 off the price. These figure really should get back to the $6-$6.50 price range or lower on a daily basis and not a sale price from stores.


This falls into my theory that one of the reasons Hasbro has cut back on the Legacy line this year is because it's probably a higher cost to them.  They can't have as much invested per figure in repacked Legends and less detailed sculpted/articulated Clone Wars figures as they do in the Legacy line.

Very frustrating.  Looks like we can look forward to about 6 months of no new Legacy figures next year, and a cram full of things near the end of 2010.  Hasbro's strategy is starting to really turn me off.  I love Star Wars of course, but might start spending my dollars on other things if they keep this up.  They are alienating people like myself.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on December 11, 2009, 10:22 PM
I really doubt that as the Jawa with fan and dais are coming with him already according to Hasbro.

Where did you hear that?  Now that would be awesome!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: David on December 12, 2009, 12:12 AM
Oola is great news! I wonder if they'll be giving her alternate "sitting" legs like they did with the new Slave Leia?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 12, 2009, 12:54 AM
Oola is great news! I wonder if they'll be giving her alternate "sitting" legs like they did with the new Slave Leia?

Seriously wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro went in that direction.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on December 12, 2009, 10:23 AM
Here's my guess at the wave (because it's Saturday morning and I don't really want to work):

For sure:
AT-ST Driver
Wooof
Wicket/Ewok #2
Gamorrean Guard

Debatable:
Ackbar
Oola

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 13, 2009, 09:37 AM
My number one want for this wave is Wooof, hands down. Lumat would be awfully nice too.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jim on December 13, 2009, 10:39 PM
Wasnt Nien Nunb (Falcon Co-Pilot) rumored for this wave? Also, I didnt notice anyone make mention of Ree-Yees.  Seems like a no brainer since the ROTS Sculpt could partially be used.  I for one am overjoyed with the light load of new OT figs next year since I have cut down to strictly EP4-6.  So from a cost standpoint this makes me very happy.  In all honesty we are nearly done with all the major OT figures minus about a 12-15 resculpts. Now if Hasbro could just go back to the vintage cards and put the best of the best on them it would be the perfect way to wind down the OT collection.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 13, 2009, 10:50 PM
Wasnt Nien Nunb (Falcon Co-Pilot) rumored for this wave? Also, I didnt notice anyone make mention of Ree-Yees.  Seems like a no brainer since the ROTS Sculpt could partially be used. 

Uh...who's Ree-Yees?  :(
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on December 13, 2009, 11:52 PM
Going back to a September '08 Q&A, it seems that Hasbro was keeping a Sandstorm Leia in mind for 2010.  This might be our core character for this particular wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on December 14, 2009, 09:29 AM
Wasnt Nien Nunb (Falcon Co-Pilot) rumored for this wave? Also, I didnt notice anyone make mention of Ree-Yees.  Seems like a no brainer since the ROTS Sculpt could partially be used. 

Uh...who's Ree-Yees?  :(

This guy:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/28/ReeYees.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 14, 2009, 08:55 PM
Thanks ... I'd like to see that mean sneer incorporated into a future Ree-Yees figure.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 6, 2010, 03:49 AM
I'm still betting my clone cash on an all-new Palpy.  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: stan on February 6, 2010, 06:40 PM
Woof
Gammorean Guard
At-St Driver
Wicket
Adimeral Ackbar
r2-launching ligthsaber

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 6, 2010, 07:56 PM
r2-launching ligthsaber

Hasbro's positive comments on this guy in a recent Q/A are pretty much an indication that they'll get around to him.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: David on February 6, 2010, 10:41 PM
I hope we're getting a new Ackbar! LONG overdue.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 8, 2010, 12:18 PM
Woof
Gammorean Guard
At-St Driver
Wicket
Adimeral Ackbar
r2-launching ligthsaber

If this is the wave of new I am very happy. I would love to see the followwing refreshed figures be:
Legacy Obi-Wan Ghost redeco
VOTC Yoda Ghost redeco
Luke DS2 Duel
Legacy 2 part helmet Vader
Legacy Slave Leia
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt R. on February 8, 2010, 04:34 PM
my prediction

Wooof
Admiral Ackbar
At-St Driver
Gamorean Guard
Wicket
R2-D2 (with all tools including saber hilt) w/ pop up saber r2 vintage image
Wedge Antilles (TLC x-wing repack)
Luke DS2 (TLC repack)
Darth Vader (TLC removable helmet repack) on second vintage card
Slave Leia (TLC repack)
Biker Scout (TLC Shield Generator BP repack) w/ new head
Boba Fett (VOTC repack) on second vintage card

possibilities

Jedi Knight Luke
Boushh Leia   
Lumat
The Emperor
Royal Guard
Nien Nunb
Yak Face
Endor Rebel Commando
Trenchcoat Han Solo
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on February 8, 2010, 08:31 PM
Ackbar or I quit.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth Broem on February 8, 2010, 11:43 PM
If they really do want collectors back in the game Ackbar would be a no brainer on a vinty card back. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2010, 01:33 AM
Hasbro's mentioned a lot of ROTJ figs in the Q&A, most of which have been mentioned, so I think a lot of the names being soothsayer-ed are kind of locks.  I believe Ackbar's come up in the mix as well.  I was really hoping he'd come with his chair but not on these cardbacks I guess.  Maybe in 2007 but not anymore I guess.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on February 9, 2010, 08:52 AM
They should get a new Ackbar out there, and  then do a battle pack with his chair.  Add in a retooled Ackbar as a Calamari Officer, and perhaps an A-wing or B-wing pilot, and you'd be set.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 9, 2010, 11:34 AM
They should get a new Ackbar out there, and  then do a battle pack with his chair.  Add in a retooled Ackbar as a Calamari Officer, and perhaps an A-wing or B-wing pilot, and you'd be set.

IT'S A SET!!!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on February 9, 2010, 12:18 PM
I'd be pretty happy with the list stan posted earlier, and I think most (if not all) of those have been talked about in Q and A's or at least strongly rumored.  It takes care of three of my most wanted resculpts from this movie (Ackbar, Wicket, and Gam. Guard), the long requested Wooof, an AT-ST driver, and an R2 they haven't gotten around to remaking yet since that POTF2 abomination.  A little "main character" light, aside from R2, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jedi or Endor Luke, the VTSC Han Solo, or the Biker Scout packed in here as well.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 9, 2010, 12:56 PM
It takes care of three of my most wanted resculpts from this movie (Ackbar, Wicket, and Gam. Guard), the long requested Wooof, an AT-ST driver, and an R2 they haven't gotten around to remaking yet since that POTF2 abomination. 

Seriously I am so happy to see these resculpts, I duitched my Ackbar, POTF2 Gamorreans, Most AT-ST Drivers a long time ago. I cannot wait to ditch my two OTC Gamorreans, Wicket, Widdle and Oochee soon. I really want to purge the last of the 90's out of my collection. I prefer to see a 60-40 ratio for awhile. 60% resculpts and 40% new. I am really stoked about the Gammorean I will egt about 6-8 of them alone.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: EpicGon on February 14, 2010, 08:38 PM
I hope the new gamorrean wouldnīt be so shorter than the potf2 version (this happened with Malakili LC / POTF2).

a challenge for this figure is the articulation, to hold the vibro blade axe or spear

Is Hasbro wants to sell this guy, better they include the two weapons axe and spear to make it more poseable.


For the atst driver?

Well a look more like the imperial technician from LC (Articulation is a must)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2010, 04:04 PM
Jayson posted an answer from this round of Q&A over at Yak Face.com (http://www.Yakface.com), and Hasbro confirmed a new Endor Rebel and that it will be the Rebel Sergeant in the trenchcoat seen in a few scenes in the movie, and which Sideshow did an outstanding figure of when they put out their 12" Endor Rebel set.

I can't wait.  Probably THE figure I am now most looking forward to in 2010. :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 29, 2010, 04:22 PM
I would have preferred the vintage one but this version is welcome. I just hope he is beardless no facial hair please.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on April 29, 2010, 04:38 PM
So...where does that leave us on this wave:

Wooof
AT-ST Driver
Endor Rebel Soldier
Gammorrean Guard
R2 w/ Saber
Wicket
Admiral Ackbar ??
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on April 29, 2010, 04:54 PM
These are mixed in this wave too...

2010 VCxx Yoda (with Hover Chair) {repack}
2010 VCxx Jedi Luke Skywalker (not sure if it's Palace or DS2)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 29, 2010, 05:03 PM
These are mixed in this wave too...

2010 VCxx Yoda (with Hover Chair) {repack}
2010 VCxx Jedi Luke Skywalker (not sure if it's Palace or DS2)


The Luke may be both. It could DS2 Luke with cloth robes like the Legacy Endor Battle Pack.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on April 29, 2010, 05:10 PM
Ackbar has never been confirmed or heavily hinted at has he?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on April 29, 2010, 05:23 PM
At one point, the middle of 2009, Hasbro said -
"We're hopeful that before 2010 is out you will have the famous Admiral updated and ready to command the ever growing army of Mon Calamari forces"

But that was a while ago... 


Also, there was some sort of comment about Wedge on a basic card in the Fall, but I'm not sure if he's in this wave or not...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on April 29, 2010, 05:43 PM
Ackbar has never been confirmed or heavily hinted at has he?

SNOWTROOPERS (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=0735a736efbd92ae79485ccc3be5e23c&topic=19263.new#new) got the response that Jeff quoted back in April of 2009.

And in this Nov '09 Bantha Skull session (http://banthaskull.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3574) Hasbro stated that 5 out of these 8 characters were set to have figures made over the next 2 years.  On that list?  Admiral Ackbar:

-Admiral Ackbar resculpt
-Barriss Offee resculpt
-Admiral Piett resculpt
-Nein Nunb resculpt
-Weequay skiff guard resculpt
-Wooof
-Visas Marr
-Komari Vosa
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 29, 2010, 10:36 PM
Hasbro stated that 5 out of these 8 characters were set to have figures made over the next 2 years.  On that list?  Admiral Ackbar:

-Admiral Ackbar resculpt
-Barriss Offee resculpt
-Admiral Piett resculpt
-Nein Nunb resculpt
-Weequay skiff guard resculpt
-Wooof
-Visas Marr
-Komari Vosa


Well, Hasbro just confirmed that Barriss Offee is along the way for 2011. I was surprised to see Komari Vosa on this list, because I never expected Hasbro would make her when she's limited to only one source. As for Ackbar, it's a mixed bag, because we obviously have not been receiving hints, like Zam Wesell has been, that he is coming soon.

I'm also confused as to why Hasbro would re-release DS2(?) Luke so soon after his initial 2009 release.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2010, 11:06 AM
I'm also confused as to why Hasbro would re-release DS2(?) Luke so soon after his initial 2009 release.

Yeah, I was sort of surprised by that as well - but I guess we're seeing more of that in the realistic line now.  The same thing was said about some of the ESB and ROTS wave figures as well.  It seems like Hasbro is taking any "main" character that fans have found a couple things wrong with and trying to fix them, and that way they can have a strong "anchor" figure for each wave now.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on May 1, 2010, 11:19 AM
(http://images.marketworks.com/hi/63/63398/rebelsergeant_1.jpg)

Here what the Endor Soldier should be based on...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on May 2, 2010, 07:24 PM
Is that Jeff?   ???
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on May 3, 2010, 01:34 AM
I kind of thought the Hoth Rebel looked like Jeff a little.    :D

He's got a lot of great fodder to make figures of himself.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on May 5, 2010, 11:29 AM
Y'know, I was waiting for Sideshow to get SW for years, and when they did I was very excuted.  But I just don't like their products.  That guy looks all lumpy and loose and goofy.  For 30-40 bucks, yes.  But 80?  No.

There a cooler pick of the trench coat rebel in the SW chronicles...he has a dark beard, and is very tough looking.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 30, 2010, 02:05 PM
From Yakface.com:

Quote
The Vintage Collection Wave 3
1x Gamorrean Guard (21482)
1x Ackbar (21483)
1x Jedi Luke (21484)
1x Skiff Guard - Woof (21485)
1x R2 with Pop-up Lightsaber & Drink Tray (21486)
1x Rebel Commando (21487)
1x Yoda with Hover Chair (21481)
1x Wicket & Kneesaa (21488)
1x Rebel Pilot (Wedge) (21489)
1x Clone Trooper (20833)
1x Sandtrooper (20832)
1x Darth Vader (97580)

Ackbar fans, rejoice! It's also great to see that Hasbro is doing another Ewok 2-pack (or maybe its last?), considering that Hasbro itself said that it would no longer continue 2-packs. :( R2 should be an exciting release - Hasbro made this pretty fast, considering that only a few months ago Hasbro had said in a Q/A that they would consider this figure. Proves that Hasbro really does listen... sometimes. ;) Glad to see Wedge is in this wave (but will he be a repack from the Target exclusive?).

I'm pretty disappointed Emperor Palps isn't here, but bets are that he'll make an upcoming ROTJ wave. And I don't get why Sandtrooper and Vader are going to be repacked in this wave and the following AOTC wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on May 30, 2010, 08:58 PM
I know that there isn't much "all new" here, but I think this lineup is pretty great.  Ackbar, Wicket, and Gam. Guard were high on my resculpt want list, and I'll bet Hasbro could really do something great with these now.  I'm interested to see what they can do with this version of R2, as it could be nifty too.  I can't remember if Hasbro said if this Jedi Luke would be new/different (I thought it was), or if it was a repack of the last one.  For some reason I was thinking they said they were going for "ultimate" once again, or a few tweaks to the last version.  I'm psyched to see a general release, single carded Wedge (particularly on these vintage cardbacks), that should be nice.  Hopefully it is the X-Wing version from last year's exclusive.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jono on May 31, 2010, 12:19 PM
I think Ackbar,Gam Guard,Wicket,and R2 will be all new sculpts.

With Luke and Endor Commando likely tweeked.

Woof will be flat out new.

Thats my guess anyway.

Wonder about Wedge and from which film we will get him?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 31, 2010, 01:07 PM
I agree Brian. Everything on that list is a much needed re-sculpt. Though the Yoda with hover chair seems out of place unless it's just an accessory to ad Value. Wonder how they're going to handle the Wicket as well.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: evenflow on May 31, 2010, 01:22 PM
1x Wicket & Kneesaa (21488)


If this is true i think this may be the most exciting news since they finally announced Yarna!! Finally a Princess Kneesaa figure. I have wanted one since a little kid watching the droids and ewoks cartoons. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on May 31, 2010, 02:37 PM
Another exciting list from Yak...  These seem to be the rumors that have been fairly solid too, so I can't wait to see this wave.  The Endor Rebel's my top want after Hasbro announced who it is.  I just hope he has a softgoods coat.

The rest is just gravy to me.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: iFett on May 31, 2010, 06:06 PM
1x Wicket & Kneesaa (21488)

Should be interesting how they pull off the cardart for 2 figures and I assume they'll be stacked in the coffin.  duh.   :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on June 1, 2010, 10:25 AM
the Yoda with hover chair seems out of place

He is a "greatest hits" repack... I think he was just slipped into this wave instead of the next one (AotC) to help balance the manufacturing cost of the wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: EpicGon on June 1, 2010, 10:29 AM
The gamorrean is expected to be a new mold, different sculpt

The Jedi Luke needs to come with brown cape

r2 with tray and lightsaber probably will be the same mold as votc r2 d2
in r2 d2 I expect the paintjob will be updated, lights, trims on torso, etc.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: John C on June 1, 2010, 11:06 AM
I am excited for this wave.  It looks pretty solid.  Hopefully the Wedge is new and the Luke has his vest and cloak.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on June 1, 2010, 11:52 AM
Looking over the past year+ of Hasbro's Star Wars Q&A's I'm really surprised that they let as much get out about this wave as they did.  At some point almost every one of these ROTJ figures was mentioned or confirmed via the Q&A's.

The only figure on this list that really comes as a bit of a surprise is the Princess Kneesa that's packed with Wicket.  And even then, Hasbro hinted pretty heavily at a new Wicket.  I had actually been thinking that with the move to the vintage style cards that we should expect a single packed Wicket.  But this is actually something of a pleasant surprise.  But I also suspect that this might be one of the only nods to the Ewoks animated series that we might see.

As for the AT-ST Driver that was also confirmed in the Q&A process?  I get the feeling that it's bound for one of a couple of places:  an unthemed wave in 2011, or as a pack-in with a Hoth version of the AT-ST.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on June 1, 2010, 12:30 PM
Ahh, this wave sounds refreshing, much more interesting that the 2 Prequel waves IMO. Despite the fact that all of the waves contain resculpts and little new, I think this one stands out because a lot of these figures really needed resculpts and haven't had a figure release since the POTF2 days. Plus, it's got cool aliens.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 1, 2010, 12:53 PM
the Yoda with hover chair seems out of place

He is a "greatest hits" repack... I think he was just slipped into this wave instead of the next one (AotC) to help balance the manufacturing cost of the wave.

Oh. Makes sense. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on June 1, 2010, 03:47 PM
Exactly what Yoda with hoverchair are we getting? I don't recall ever seeing this figure - is it the 2003 CW Yoda with that floating thingy??
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2010, 07:21 PM
Yes, as that's really the only Yoda with hover-thingie unless you count the Clone Wars figure, so I'm sure that's what this will be.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on June 1, 2010, 08:03 PM
Exactly what Yoda with hoverchair are we getting? I don't recall ever seeing this figure - is it the 2003 CW Yoda with that floating thingy??


It's probably this one (http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0315yodachian.asp) which also included the Nikto youngling Chian.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on June 1, 2010, 10:36 PM
Oh, no - I really hope it isn't this one! How could Hasbro include such an under-articulated, old sculpt into such a premium line like Vintage?! This is a terrible choice! I hope Hasbro repacks the Episode III tin Yoda (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TAC/TACtinROTSyodapose.jpg) with the hover chair.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on June 2, 2010, 12:20 PM
Oh, no - I really hope it isn't this one! How could Hasbro include such an under-articulated, old sculpt into such a premium line like Vintage?! This is a terrible choice! I hope Hasbro repacks the Episode III tin Yoda (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TAC/TACtinROTSyodapose.jpg) with the hover chair.

Oh no.  They're probably going to take the under-articulated, old sculpt in a premium line and remove the Chian figure at a premium price.  (Hey, they did it to OTC Wicket, minus the premium price.)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on June 28, 2010, 11:16 PM
Finally a Princess Kneesaa figure. I have wanted one since a little kid watching the droids and ewoks cartoons. 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...   but you'll need to keep waiting.  :(

From the Q&A this week:  Unfortunately, Kneesaa was dropped due to some production issues; we did not replace Kneesaa with another figure.  Instead, Wicket is comes with his movie version poncho as well as a version inspired by his animated series appearance.  He is a very cool figure.  (http://droidsandewoks.weebly.com/index.html).
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on June 28, 2010, 11:41 PM
That's too bad. A lot of people wanted her... but at least Wicket will be a very cool figure!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 29, 2010, 02:12 AM
That's pretty lousy news, I was actually looking forward to actually getting a Kneesaa.

It also sets a precedent that they can get away with one Ewok per card. So I guess Chief Chirpa and Logray would be individual purchases as opposed to packed with other Ewoks we never got in the original Kenner vintage line.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: evenflow on June 29, 2010, 03:23 PM
Yeah that answer really REALLY hurt. "production" issues? I hope that she is in the mix for next year at least.  :-\
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2010, 04:28 PM
They already have set the one-ewok-per-card precedent with Chirpa, and Teebo.   :-\
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on June 29, 2010, 10:27 PM
They already have set the one-ewok-per-card precedent with Chirpa, and Teebo.   :-\

Exactly.  Didn't Wicket come that way in the OTC line too?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2010, 11:37 PM
Wicket came with logray in the POTF2 line, but if you wanna go real oldschool...  Technically Vintage Kenner set the precedent. :)  And that Vintage Wicket was diminutive.  Like to the point he'd get his own show on TLC now if Wicket were popular.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 30, 2010, 09:34 AM
  And that Vintage Wicket was diminutive.  Like to the point he'd get his own show on TLC now if Wicket were popular.

They should. They gave one to a guy who was a background Ewok in one of the TV movies.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Hobbie on June 30, 2010, 01:23 PM
Collecterstation has a Q&A in which Hasbro says that the upcoming R2 will be significantly smaller in size than the past astromechs mold, smaller even than the BAD molds.  I'm guessing the same size as the CW astros.  They say that this is more in scale, and will be this size going forward.

I am not happy because now any new droids will look ridic against the old, for example an eventual R5-A7 will look totally out of place alongside the other droids that have been released from the Queen's starship.  This also means that due to having to tool up additional dome molds, we are back to square one with only R2's out for te next few years, followed by R5s, and then R4s, and maybe R3's 6 years from now.  Not happy.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 30, 2010, 02:01 PM
I am not happy because now any new droids will look ridic against the old, for example an eventual R5-A7 will look totally out of place alongside the other droids that have been released from the Queen's starship.  This also means that due to having to tool up additional dome molds, we are back to square one with only R2's out for te next few years, followed by R5s, and then R4s, and maybe R3's 6 years from now.  Not happy.

I concur.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: John C on June 30, 2010, 02:40 PM
Any size changes=bad.  I also dislike how small the Lukes are now vs then.  It just looks bad IMO.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Keonobi on June 30, 2010, 03:19 PM
Booo.  The new size might be more accurate when R2 is next to Luke, but then again I haven't heard people begging for a more accurately sized R2, they wanted a better sculpt, or a new paint job, but height isn't a problem that I've ever heard mentioned.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2010, 03:31 PM
They're right on the scale issue, but I gotta say I'm content with the army of astromechs I have, and if they are only going forward with smaller ones, I'm at a bit of a dilemma.  That's a LOT of repainted astromechs to replace, and I think I'd rather just say "screw it", and keep the larger ones.

I like Luke being smaller, he should be.  Same with leia.  Han and Lando should be average height for the most part, Chewie very tall...  I like the direction Hasbro went with that, but waiting till the 15th year of collecting to make astromechs smaller?

Dumb.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on June 30, 2010, 03:35 PM
I agree, especially when they continue pumping the cost of producing new tooling well. Resculpting/rescaling astromechs is dumb. It could be worse I guess, they could have went bigger.  ::)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2010, 03:40 PM
I give them credit for taking a long hard look at scaling things right.  There were gripes on things, but they're doing it right.  But seriously, the 15th year of collecting after you milked repainting astromechs for eons, doing some of the most obscure ones ever, and NOW you want to redo their size?  That's just kind of insulting in a way.  Collectors should maybe backlash on that one. 

Unless the R2 comes with some significantly cool accessories, I may just pass on him.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on June 30, 2010, 03:50 PM
Speaking of height/scaling issues, I hear that the latest ESB wave C-3PO is pretty short, compared to other 3PO figures.. how short, I don't know yet.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Hobbie on June 30, 2010, 03:55 PM
It's especially insulting since they just did a dozen new ones for the BAD line, plus all those that came out in the DF 2-packs.  At least the CW ones are in a different line, but I really wish they would have gotten their stuff together on this 2 years ago.

We should have seen this coming since they finally did the uber-R2 with brush silver dome in the R4-G9 mold that everyone had been begging for.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on June 30, 2010, 04:08 PM
Speaking of height/scaling issues, I hear that the latest ESB wave C-3PO is pretty short, compared to other 3PO figures.. how short, I don't know yet.

I think he's about as tiny as the first VOTC C-3PO.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Peakob1 on June 30, 2010, 05:47 PM
He is just a bit shorter then the first VOTC version it doesn't look that bad
I just picked him up at my TRU. He is smaller though for sure!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2010, 07:06 PM
To be fair though, Anthony Daniels is a pretty tiny guy actually.  I guess 3PO is to be Luke-ish in size...  Someone posted Daniels' height here and it was remarkably short I remember.  I met him just last year and honestly didn't realize he wasn't very tall at all, but he was sitting down so I guess I wouldn't have noticed that.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on July 21, 2010, 05:21 PM
Gammorean Guard (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5926350&id=135697147436&ref=mf) via JTA on Facebook
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on July 21, 2010, 05:23 PM
Gammorean Guard (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5926350&id=135697147436&ref=mf) via JTA on Facebook

Just saw that....wow, looks great.  One of the resculpts I was most looking forward to.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 21, 2010, 05:25 PM
 :o

at work - cant see facebook - leaving in 35 min - can't wait!!!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on July 21, 2010, 05:43 PM
Wooof (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image6.asp), Endor Trooper (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image8.asp), Yoda (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image9.asp), Wicket (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image17.asp), Ackbar (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image19.asp), Luke (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image34.asp), Gam Guard (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image36.asp), Party Barge R2 (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/image21.asp)

Wedge appears to be the guy next to Woof, but no good shots of him yet...

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/IMG_0112.JPG)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on July 21, 2010, 05:55 PM
Oh my goodness. Best wave ever? :o
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 21, 2010, 06:27 PM
Whoa! Did someone throw vanilla pudding in Wickets face or somthing? Very nice looking wave though, I'm super pumped about this one. Tha Gamorrean Guard is excellent and Ackbar is also brilliant. I can't wait!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on July 21, 2010, 06:38 PM
I like most of these. Yoda, Wicket and R2 are a little tough to swallow as a single figure @ $10 a pop though.  Hoping Target and others will have them down in the $7-8 range before long.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2010, 07:05 PM
Endor Trooper = greatness...  I can see him coming with the vest now as well.  Love that he's sporting the removable trenchcoat, which looks to be basically Han's, which is pretty accurate.  It should be greener, like Leia's poncho should be greener, but we'll see.  I'm geeked regardless.

Ackbar, Wicket, and GGuard all look fantastic.  I'm happy to have Wedge available on a basic card since he's fairly generic and I'd hoped to nab a couple to customize.

Woof's cool.  He was a favorite of mine as a kid because of the skirt.

Can't really see R2 there...  Good stuff though.  I'm pleased.  Luke almost looks like they changed him up a little, as well.  Maybe I'm just seeing things there though.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 21, 2010, 07:07 PM
I think he's got ball hips now and better proportions than the previous Luke. Not sure about the headsculpt though, I thought the last one was better. Hopefully they're swappable.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on July 21, 2010, 08:14 PM
Something seems off on the Gam Guard...not fat enough?  He must be missing the soft goods

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/7/79/Gamorrean_Guard_with_Vibro-lance.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/IMG_0154.JPG)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2010, 08:16 PM
He has a removable hat...  A removable hat.  That's neat, and not something I was expecting them to go through with.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on July 21, 2010, 08:27 PM
Like the hat, but agree with scott that the proportions look a little funny.  Maybe a custom, baggie soft goods onesie is called for...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on July 21, 2010, 08:28 PM
I can see what Scott is saying about the Guard as well, but aside from that, I'm really digging this wave.  A lot of resculpts that I've really been looking forward to (Ackbar, Wicket, and G. Guard), plus a nice mix for the rest of the wave.  They all look kind of shiny to me, but I think that will be changed in the final product.  Really nifty wave though overall.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2010, 08:33 PM
The face looks long to me...  A "horseface", if you can have that on a guy that looks like a big pig.   :-\

I'm happy with it, don't get me wrong, but I see some of the issues.  I think a skirt's coming and just not there for whatever reason (they don't often have people setting this stuff up, who are up on what each figure should have on and stuff).  I see something odd in the sculpt too.  I'll happily add a small army of them though.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 21, 2010, 10:10 PM
The Luke looks much, MUCH better than the LC version! Ball-hinged hips! YAY! Much better proportions, and, although the facial sculpt isn't quite dead-on, his hair is sculpted more wavier, which looks more true to the movie.

The only thing I don't get is that Yoda was supposedly supposed to be a repack, but he is obviously a new sculpt. Also, he comes with that blast effect, which doesn't match him to ROTJ.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 21, 2010, 10:29 PM
What's with wickets extra green hood? Is that an EU thing?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on July 21, 2010, 10:48 PM
Pretty good wave.  Ackbar, the Guard (agree - the skirt thing is missing?), Wicket and Luke all really shine.  The Trooper and Woolf - wow.  I'm also glad to see the Sandtrooper card - it's exactly as I imagined it would be.   ;D
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 21, 2010, 11:07 PM
What's with wickets extra green hood? Is that an EU thing?

Yes, from the Ewoks cartoon.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2010, 12:55 AM
Very happy with this wave. Can't wait for Wicket, Ackbar, and the Guard.  :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Morgbug on July 22, 2010, 12:08 PM
Something seems off on the Gam Guard...not fat enough?  He must be missing the soft goods

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/7/79/Gamorrean_Guard_with_Vibro-lance.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbro_Star_Wars_01/IMG_0154.JPG)


Government anti-obesity policy creeps into the funniest places.  BMI was too high.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 22, 2010, 05:52 PM
I really like what they did w/ the prequel cardbacks... Anakin, Sidious, and Grievous are probably my favorites, the way Hasbro fitted the character image looks great. And the image of Sidious and Clone Trooper against the background look great.

I'm wondering what Hasbro will do w/ Jedi Luke for the ROTJ wave... he didn't get a "Jedi Outfit/Final Duel" cardback in the Vintage days, did he?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt R. on July 22, 2010, 08:22 PM
In the vintage days, they did luke from jabba's palace... other than that no. I think the new luke cardback photo will be the scene when luke throws his lightsaber away then he refused the emperor offer.   I want to see Wedge's cardback the most, I am sure it is my icon photo.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt R. on July 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
I am excited for this wave.  Ackbar, Wooof, Gam. Guard (the missing fur is annoying) are fantastic.  Wicket is finally redone.  Luke, R2, Endor Commando are ok.  Wedge is Wedge but excited he is coming on vintage card.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 22, 2010, 08:55 PM
In the vintage days, they did luke from jabba's palace... other than that no. I think the new luke cardback photo will be the scene when luke throws his lightsaber away then he refused the emperor offer.  

Although that would be a great picture, I personally would like to see this image of Luke

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/v95E1iyprA8/0.jpg)

Especially since we got a really crappy action figure based on this image way back in 2003.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 22, 2010, 08:58 PM
Gam. Guard (the missing fur is annoying)  

I wouldn't be surprised if the final sample includes plastic/softgoods fur. Besides, all we've seen so far are prototypes.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on July 22, 2010, 09:10 PM
As cool as this wave is, seeing Wedge on the card finally will probably top everything.  I expect the photo they use to be the one Matt has as his icon.  This and the Sandtrooper really make this line for me.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Morgbug on July 22, 2010, 09:27 PM
Interesting picture choice.  Essentially the point where Luke is farthest from being a Jedi and closest to taking Vader's place at the Emperor's side. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt R. on July 22, 2010, 09:53 PM
is it my eyes or is wedge using x-wing luke body ? because he looks different than the one that came with the x-wing.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 22, 2010, 10:14 PM
is it my eyes or is wedge using x-wing luke body ? because he looks different than the one that came with the x-wing.

It would appear so judging by the belt hole for the saber. He also has the new SS Luke style helmet as does Dak. I hate that body, I hope this was a mistake. If so I will buy it for the helmet upgrade.

Photo from Galactic Hunter:
(http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/comic-con_international_(2010)/hasbro/vintage/SDCC2010_Hasbro_57.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on July 22, 2010, 10:40 PM
Well according to Wookiepedia Wedge and Luke are both around the same height, so I think it's actually more film accurate than the "normal" pilot body. I do want to know which Wedge headsculpt they used though, as the eyebrows on the Target X-Wing one make it look pretty bad.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 23, 2010, 02:58 PM
According to the slideshow, Wedge will be removed from the ROTJ wave because Hasbro's still perfecting his facial sculpt. Oh well. :(
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 23, 2010, 03:00 PM
Interesting picture choice.  Essentially the point where Luke is farthest from being a Jedi and closest to taking Vader's place at the Emperor's side. 

True that, but many kids/collectors won't be taking that into consideration. They might take a quick glance at the picture before eventually brutally ripping open the package.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on July 23, 2010, 06:16 PM
According to the slideshow, Wedge will be removed from the ROTJ wave because Hasbro's still perfecting his facial sculpt. Oh well. :(

Yeah, that's a little disappointing, but as long as we get him eventually (and hopefully a better one with the changes), I'm ok with it.  I suppose he'll be in one of the 2011 waves, since I believe they are switching to "mixed" waves at that point.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on July 23, 2010, 07:43 PM
Wicket with alternate gear:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4822505746_5a66d14687.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 23, 2010, 08:21 PM
Sorry, I'm just not feelin' it....

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 23, 2010, 09:16 PM
They had a pic of the Gam Guard in the slide show presentation and he does have the fuzzy stuff there. Looks waaaaaay better with that. So does Wicket for that matter, heres hoping the actual release has a more natural paint job like that one.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2010, 09:36 PM
Naturally, Wedge is the one figure who's delayed.   ::)  Every year, it's the same thing.  The piece I'm looking forward to the most (last year it was Ratts Tyrell) vanishes into limbo.  I know he'll come eventually, but what's the deal - aren't they just repacking the one that came with the X-Wing?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 23, 2010, 10:27 PM


Government anti-obesity policy creeps into the funniest places.  BMI was too high.


Fear not, the Gamorreans have been enplumpened by Hasbro:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbropanel/Slide19.JPG)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 23, 2010, 10:30 PM
P.S. That Gamorrean and Ackbar look like they were lifted right off the movie screen.

Amazing work this Vintage stuff.  Really stellar.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2010, 10:31 PM
That is truly amazing.  Wow.  Kudos to hasbro.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on July 23, 2010, 10:40 PM
Wow those are some of the best figures EVER.  Makes all of the resculpt wishlist votes very justified and has me jonesin for Nein Numb, Ree Yees, Yakface, Ewok Leia and updates to the skiff guards...Weequay, Kithaba and Nikto
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on July 23, 2010, 10:54 PM
P.S. That Gamorrean and Ackbar look like they were lifted right off the movie screen.

Amazing work this Vintage stuff.  Really stellar.

Agreed.  That Ackbar is probably my favorite thing they've put out in the last few years. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2010, 11:14 PM
Love the GGuard...  Very cool.  Softgoods skirt is more than was hoped for.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 24, 2010, 12:01 AM
Just took a look at the VTC ROTJ wave slide from the slideshow and noticed two interesting things.

First, the slide identifies this wave as Wave 5.

And it comes in January!

This is very confuzzling. Being that the Ep.III wave comes in late August, what in blazes is going on here?! Are there a few "mystery waves" that Hasbro has yet to tell us of? Maybe a CV reveal?

I did notice though that the little tags underneath the ROTJ figures labeled this wave as coming in November. What's going on? Are there a few waves in between the ROTS and ROTJ waves?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 24, 2010, 07:06 AM
Just took a look at the VTC ROTJ wave slide from the slideshow and noticed two interesting things.

First, the slide identifies this wave as Wave 5.

And it comes in January!

This is very confuzzling. Being that the Ep.III wave comes in late August, what in blazes is going on here?! Are there a few "mystery waves" that Hasbro has yet to tell us of? Maybe a CV reveal?


Yeah I think that was a typo.  ESB wave 1 is out now, 6 weeks later is ROTS wave 2 in mid-September, and then by November 1st-ish we should be seeing ROTJ wave 3.

I think we'll find out about waves 4/5 at CV.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Captain Piet on July 24, 2010, 10:15 AM
Just took a look at the VTC ROTJ wave slide from the slideshow and noticed two interesting things.

First, the slide identifies this wave as Wave 5.

And it comes in January!

This is very confuzzling. Being that the Ep.III wave comes in late August, what in blazes is going on here?! Are there a few "mystery waves" that Hasbro has yet to tell us of? Maybe a CV reveal?


Yeah I think that was a typo.  ESB wave 1 is out now, 6 weeks later is ROTS wave 2 in mid-September, and then by November 1st-ish we should be seeing ROTJ wave 3.

I think we'll find out about waves 4/5 at CV.

Yeah, which makes Hasbro's math fuzzy if it's 37 figures in 2010.
Does that number count TLC?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2010, 11:07 AM
Yeah, after looking at the slide pictures, the figures are all the more impressive.  The Gam. Guard and Ackbar are two of my favorite figures we've seen out of the line, if they look that way when they hit the pegs.  Just great work there, and like Scott mentioned, has me ready for some more resculpts.  Even figures that were decent before seem to be able to be improved on so much today.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on July 24, 2010, 11:46 AM
I really like the Luke, too, which is odd considering I didn't really want one or think they cared after the version they did last year.  This one appears to be the version we've been waiting for (very little buzz about it, though).  Same for R2 - this is a brand new tricked out R2 that appears to have very different proportions.  Almost no one is talking about it.  For as much excitement for vintage as there is, a lot of the actual figures (some of the ROTJ wave, virtually everything in the ROTS wave) has gone without much comment.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 24, 2010, 11:47 AM
I agree, the Gommorean 'pig' guard as me and my friends used to call him looks great as does Ackbar. Jedi Luke looks pretty decent too. Endor trooper is cool too. So much cool stuff and very well done! The two Hoth battle packs are great, gonna be hard with def getting the Bat-at whether I can get either hoth set, though my son will want it ALL! LOL. I def need to get Dengar and the Zuckess, but part of me wants the CV 4-LOM/Zuckess exc package eventhough I still have both my original figs of them and I got 4-LOM last year.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on July 24, 2010, 12:11 PM
It seems from Hasbro's panel that the photo for Luke will be the vintage Jabba's palace one.  Kind of a bummer as I was looking for something new here.  I suppose they could always fix it later (oh wait, they will). 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 24, 2010, 10:20 PM
We have come a loooooooonnnngggg way from monkey Leia.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbropanel/Picture2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 25, 2010, 11:11 AM
Wow I was fooled by that picture. I thought it was a movie one until I saw the elbow joints.

THESE are the figures we are looking for!

Greta job Hasbro. (Now let's hope the manufacturing plant doesn't screw something up...)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 26, 2010, 01:12 AM
That Gamorean Guard is outstanding!  Same with the Admiral Ackbar!  Those are must haves...even for someone who doesn't collect much anymore!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2010, 02:27 AM
Nobody's talking about the R2 because Hasbro already said they reproportioned it...  If anyone else is like me, they're not pleased about that seeing as how Hasbro did a bajillion Astromechs one size, and now with this R2 they're doing one that is going to be very oddly sized by comparison I am afraid.

The Luke...  Eh.  I wasn't that bothered by last years ROTJ Luke.  Some were flipping lids, but to me I liked it.  This is far superior looking in proportions, but maybe it's the fact it's coming out so soon that people are just maybe irked they bought last years?  It's a mostly mish-mash of parts, isn't it?  Not really a lot of new tooling.  At least I thought it looked like a mix of parts and a new head to me.

For me, the top 3 figures were GamGuard, Endor Rebel, and Ackbar...  Not much else compared, even though it was still nice...  The GamGuard is one of their finest figures I think.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 26, 2010, 01:06 PM
The Luke...  Eh.  I wasn't that bothered by last years ROTJ Luke.  Some were flipping lids, but to me I liked it.  This is far superior looking in proportions, but maybe it's the fact it's coming out so soon that people are just maybe irked they bought last years?  It's a mostly mish-mash of parts, isn't it?  Not really a lot of new tooling.  At least I thought it looked like a mix of parts and a new head to me.

It appears the head and torso downward are all-new. I like the look of this one very much more than LC because that one was somewhat too short and disproportioned. This one seems taller. But it would help if Hasbro didn't release him so soon and replaced his slot with somebody else.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 26, 2010, 01:13 PM
Excellent looking wave. Hasbro really outdid themselves.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2010, 03:33 PM
I don't know, the torso doesn't look much different to me than the Rancor/ENdor pack Luke toso...  Which that figure is actually a hair shorter than the Legacy Collection figure (Luke IS short, and I don't expect them to make this one any taller than the Legacy figure from last year).

In the slideshow image, the head doesn't even look terribly different from last year's figure.  It's a different torso from last year's, but it's tough to tell if it isn't that Endor body re-used.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on July 26, 2010, 04:11 PM
I think the Luke appears to be all new.  Maybe I'm wrong though, but it looks great to me and is very welcome as I thought the last one was terrible.

As for R2, I'll just pass.  If he's shorter, oh well.  I've got enough of him already that I like...

The Gamorrean obviously is amazing, as is Ackbar.  Can't wait to get several of each, perhaps even a dozen of the Gamorrean. 

The Endor guy is nice, though I don't think it comes close to the aliens... I kind of think the Luke looks better too.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 26, 2010, 04:20 PM
^ no mention of Wicket?   :P

I think Wicket looks really good.  Those pics from the show room floor with the green hood on makes me consider buying a second.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2010, 04:24 PM
So small he's almost forgotten.

I'm considering a 2nd one as well Smash, just not sure I want to spend the money on two given the size of the figure.  That may be a gametime decision.  :D  I'm going to see if the extra hood fits other figures first as well.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on July 26, 2010, 11:41 PM
Wicket does look good... I guess after so many Ewoks, he's kinda low on the list.  But, he does look fantastic and I'm sure I'll get a couple.  He's the least interesting one to me out of the wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2010, 03:12 PM
You know, looking at the pictures again - and although he isn't in the official slideshow (and there isn't a lot of talk about him) isn't the AOTC Yoda w/chair included in this wave new (or partially new?).  It at least doesn't look like the previous "Yoda w/chair" that I have from the SAGA line.  It looks like it is at least partially new.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2010, 04:49 PM
The figure they showed definitely isn't the same one that came with the hover chair in the past.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: David on July 27, 2010, 04:56 PM
New, or least partially new this Yoda figure appears to be. Knee articulation he has. :D


(If talking about the same Yoda we are)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 27, 2010, 09:05 PM
New, or least partially new this Yoda figure appears to be. Knee articulation he has. :D

Holy Christ he has knee articulation??!!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2010, 12:10 AM
We have come a loooooooonnnngggg way from monkey Leia.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc10/Hasbropanel/Picture2.jpg)

That's beyond phenomenal.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 28, 2010, 10:11 AM
I think that Gam Guard is the first figure that I have to do a double take to make sure it isn't a picture from the movie.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: 501ST on July 28, 2010, 10:39 AM
I think that Gam Guard is the first figure that I have to do a double take to make sure it isn't a picture from the movie.

It's also the first Gam Guard I'm actually very likely to purchase and add to my collection.

Not a completist by any means and only buy figures I like the look of or the character themselves therefore before now I've not gotten any Gam Guards of Jabba's Palace themed figures (bar Slave Leia and Skiff Guard Lando)

This figure looks so amazing it's too good to not buy.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on July 28, 2010, 11:30 AM
(http://www.megatoothpastemammals.com/gamevo.jpg)

Works for me.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 28, 2010, 12:56 PM
I had no idea Kenner had made a Vintage Gam.Guard. Wow.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on July 28, 2010, 03:12 PM
(http://www.megatoothpastemammals.com/gamevo.jpg)

Works for me.

You can practically see where he crawled from the sea.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 28, 2010, 03:36 PM


Not a completist by any means and only buy figures I like the look of or the character themselves therefore before now I've not gotten any Gam Guards of Jabba's Palace themed figures (bar Slave Leia and Skiff Guard Lando)


wow, thats just crazy to me - but probably because I love the Jabba scenes at the beginning of ROTJ - probably my favorite moments in all SW.  Personally, I think the figures from this section of the saga are some of the best made SW figures there are.

but to each their own, right?   :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt on July 28, 2010, 05:24 PM
I had no idea Kenner had made a Vintage Gam.Guard. Wow.

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3633/suicide2ex9.gif)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 28, 2010, 05:56 PM
I had no idea Kenner had made a Vintage Gam.Guard. Wow.

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3633/suicide2ex9.gif)

 ::)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Biffette on July 31, 2010, 02:10 PM
Just ignore the grumpy old-timers, of course you wouldn't know about the vintage toys.  What I think is neat is that with each iteration I (and others) think "eh, I don't need a new Gam, the one I have is fine and probably couldn't be improved upon anyways.  And then wham-pow!  Hasbro knocks it out of the park with an impossibly good-looking figure, wayyy better than the old "just fine" stuff.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on August 20, 2010, 08:53 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/wv3.jpg)

Carded shots
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 20, 2010, 09:03 AM
Good thing I'm at work because otherwise there may have been an awkward intimate moment between me and that shot of Ackbar.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on August 20, 2010, 09:25 AM
Thanks Scott!  Wow those look great!  I really want know the case breakdown of this wave - it may be the first ever SW complete case I purchase...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on August 20, 2010, 09:35 AM
Wow, I totally called R2's card (can't remember what thread that's in now).  Don't like that what is apparently a Senate Duel Yoda has the ESB pic on a ROTJ card.  Hmm.  Otherwise, all kinds of awesome.  Still wish Luke had a new card.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jono on August 20, 2010, 09:38 AM
Lovely.

I can see a few "Tastefull" alterations to the card art of Gam Guard and Woof -tolerable though.

Can't wait for these -A+
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 20, 2010, 09:56 AM
Yeah, not digging that R2. I understand it, but can't get behind it.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on August 20, 2010, 10:03 AM
I had no idea Kenner had made a Vintage Gam.Guard. Wow.

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3633/suicide2ex9.gif)

 ::)


AND they re-used the figure's body for Friar Tuck from Kevin Costner's Robin Movie, plus other DC superhero figures Kenner/Hasbro made at the time.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: iFett on August 20, 2010, 10:53 AM
Sweet.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: John C on August 20, 2010, 10:56 AM
If they're using that picture of Luke, give him his vest and cloak.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt on August 20, 2010, 11:15 AM
Don't like that what is apparently a Senate Duel Yoda has the ESB pic on a ROTJ card.  Hmm.

Me either.  It's sacrilege.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jedi Learner on August 20, 2010, 12:12 PM
Interesting that Hasbro is using the exact same vintage card photos for the Gamorrean Guard, Wooff, and Rebel Commando, but they don't seem to be heavily airbrushed/colorized like the original Kenner versions.

Wicket's nameplate now reads just "Wicket" and not "Wicket W. Warrick" (which is probably for the best because I never understood why he got a full name anyway except that it was undoubtedly a tongue-in-cheek reference to Warwick Davis).

I agree that Yoda with a lightsaber on a ROTJ card is a little bit of sacrilege.  Why isn't Hasbro releasing him with a brand new card in the ROTS wave???  It would make more sense to pair him with the Senate Duel Sidious.

Luke looks almost naked without a cloak on that card... I wish they would have found a different photo and made him a Death Star Duel version (which everyone wanted in the vintage line but never got).

Ackbar is incredible and is definitely the update we've all been waiting for--same with the Gamorrean.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on August 20, 2010, 12:35 PM
Looks good - I hope to see some HD quality pics soon
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 20, 2010, 01:19 PM
Best Wave ever? Possibly...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on August 20, 2010, 02:12 PM
Have to agree, definitely one of the best waves Hasbro has done - and I can't wait until it starts showing up.  The Gamorrean, Ackbar, and Wicket all look great - as do the Endor Soldier, Wooof, and even the Luke and R2 look like nice updates (curious to see the R2 in person).  I'm a little confused on the Yoda as well.  I'd have rather seen a new OT version or even Spirit version included here, if they were going to have a Yoda in this wave, and/or shift this one to the ROTS wave.  Something just off about seeing Yoda w/lightsaber on an OT cardback (aside from the whole ESB picture and ROTJ cardback issue).  Other than that though, these look great - and I'm still loving the return of these cardbacks.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: EpicGon on August 20, 2010, 02:59 PM
Nice wave, realism on gamorrean guard is amazing!! Canīt appreciate the Yoda details, hope he comes with trousers like the 1980īs release. Ackbar is a cool update, also a must for collecting. I wish Luke card was different, perhaps a photo of him with Vader on the bridge, where they talk in rotj. He could be called "Endor Capture Luke Skywalker (Jedi Knight)".

 About Rebel commando, is not clear whereas he is bald or not, but his outfit on previous photos is decent and nice.
Woof looks as the evolution of Klatu, perfect figure.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on August 20, 2010, 04:19 PM
The Rebel Commando bears a striking resemblance to one of the folks at Hasbro.  And it's also very reminiscent of a previously released Endor Rebel in one of the collectible tin sets.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 20, 2010, 10:10 PM
You know what this wave needs? Special chase cards that say "Revenge of the Jedi" on them.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on August 20, 2010, 11:02 PM
Beautiful wave, with only Yoda and R2 being the real stinkers. Have we even seen any detailed pics of Yoda from any of the recent conventions? If so I missed them.

I wish Hasbro would do a case with 2x the G Guard, 2x the Commando and 2x the skiff guard (slipping on the name at the moment) and 1x everyone else. But I'm sure they'll find a way to sneak more Vaders, Anakins and Obi-Wans into the case assortments. ::)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 20, 2010, 11:08 PM
Don't like that what is apparently a Senate Duel Yoda has the ESB pic on a ROTJ card.  Hmm.

Me either.  It's sacrilege.

I'm with you.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 21, 2010, 12:11 AM
Same thing with ROTJ Vader figure on a ANH card for an ESB wave, huh? Gosh darn this will be an interesting year 2 years for cardbacks.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: darth broem 2 on August 21, 2010, 10:08 AM
I hope the cardbacks go longer than 2 years myself but that's because I'm old.  They really did need to give Luke a different picture on the cardback but sort of figured they would use the old one.  I thought they were going to give Yoda the ROTS cardback since clearly they are going for that with the figure.  Or even AOTC. 

At any rate there are some solid figures in the wave.  I don't think it's the greatest wave ever but that Gamorrean Guard has to be one of the better figures they have ever made.  They have done some nice Jabba's Palace/Skiff figures over the years now.  Ephant Mon, Hermi Odle, Gam Guard, and some others.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 21, 2010, 01:40 PM
I personally think the Luke figure looks too plain on the card - maybe he would have looked better actually holding his saber. Same with Wooof, but he actually takes up more of the bubble than Luke, so it isn't as empty looking.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Morgbug on August 21, 2010, 08:29 PM
Don't like that what is apparently a Senate Duel Yoda has the ESB pic on a ROTJ card.  Hmm.

Me either.  It's sacrilege.

I'm with you.
Hai.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 25, 2010, 09:26 AM
PHOTO FROM YAKFACE, THEY HAVE A SLEW OF THEM IN.
This Luke is friggin awesome! I love how close they matched the real Vintage Jedi Look. This wave is hands down amazing! Notice the wrist articulation.

(http://www.yakface.com/2010/august/luke_loose.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on August 25, 2010, 09:55 AM
Best Jedi Luke EVAR1!!!1

I wonder how the accessories from the Battle for Endor Battle Pack with look on him.  8)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt on August 25, 2010, 11:38 AM
That loose Gamorrean (http://www.yakface.com/2010/august/gamguard_loose.html) looks totally different from the prototypes we've seen.   :-\
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on August 25, 2010, 11:43 AM
That loose Gamorrean (http://www.yakface.com/2010/august/gamguard_loose.html) looks totally different from the prototypes we've seen.   :-\

That's usually the case. I wonder if the water treatment or some hair styling product will work to tame the furry wrap.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 25, 2010, 11:46 AM
Best Jedi Luke EVAR1!!!1

I wonder how the accessories from the Battle for Endor Battle Pack with look on him.  8)

Agreed. I am glad I have several of that Battle pack. I will be retiring a lot of my custom Jedi Lukes soon. This figure is the perfect base to use the Jedi Soft goods and the Poncho soft goods. This one looks like he will have no issues riding a Speederbike either.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on August 25, 2010, 02:48 PM
I'm actually using the TLC Jedi Luke from last year as my Endor Luke. I recently redid my OT shelf and retired the Endor Luke from the Saga Collection. Gave all his accessories to the new Luke. Looks pretty good since the cloak covers up the horrible shoulders and upper body.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 25, 2010, 08:17 PM
Holy crap, this Luke is awesome! The jointed wrists are a tad unneccessary to me, but, boy, will they make some great lightsaber-dueling poses! 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2010, 08:39 PM
I'm wagering the final figure will have a little better softgoods on it...  The Hasbro photos are usually still prototypes, so I'm not concerned (yet).

Love Luke...  I'm not abandoning my old ones though.  I liked the 30AC figure a lot.  I enjoyed the shirt options, and the ball/socket torso.  I may do a hand-swap, but I'll still have that figure displayed.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: EpicGon on August 26, 2010, 06:59 PM
Rotj Yoda from this wave lacks his utility belt, which may go around his coat.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: 77Skywalker on September 5, 2010, 09:05 AM
Finally a vintage-style Luke Skywalker from Return of the Jedi.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 6, 2010, 12:23 AM
So when are these supposed to "officially" hit?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 6, 2010, 09:24 AM
Early November, I believe.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 6, 2010, 01:09 PM
Oooh, thanks, I kept getting mixed up by Hasbro's screwy slides that claimed this was wave 5 and it was due for January 2011.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on September 6, 2010, 08:03 PM
i still really want to see what this case assortment looks like.  it just may be the first case ever that I order...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 8, 2010, 02:49 PM
I am surprised these have not appeared on preorder yet on the etailers sites. Now that Wave 2 is in ample supply and shipped I find it weird they do not have the next wave up for presale, I have been buying by the case since 2006 and this is the first time I can remember a wave only 2 months out not up for preorder (sans the summer hiatus). I will be buying at least two cases and many extras of this wave for sure. I need a lot Lukes and Gamorreans.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on September 9, 2010, 10:21 AM
I am surprised these have not appeared on preorder yet on the etailers sites. Now that Wave 2 is in ample supply and shipped I find it weird they do not have the next wave up for presale, I have been buying by the case since 2006 and this is the first time I can remember a wave only 2 months out not up for preorder (sans the summer hiatus). I will be buying at least two cases and many extras of this wave for sure. I need a lot Lukes and Gamorreans.

Yeah, I keep checking for this one as well - but haven't seen it available either.  Probably my most anticipated wave of the year, so many nice figures included.  I wonder if the wave is slightly delayed, or they just haven't gotten them up for some reason.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on September 10, 2010, 02:16 AM
I am surprised these have not appeared on preorder yet on the etailers sites. Now that Wave 2 is in ample supply and shipped I find it weird they do not have the next wave up for presale...

AMPLE SUPPLY?

I haven't seen one bit of the ROTS wave yet, and mind you I don't live in the sticks.  NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION of a wave takes a little bit of time.  And based on Hasbro's comments at both Comic Con and CV, it sounds like they're scrambling internally to get the ROTJ wave to market.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on September 29, 2010, 04:47 PM
BBTS has 2 ROTJ wave assortments up for pre-order. One includes 2 Gammorean Guards (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19536&mode=retail), the other, 2 Rebel Commandos (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19537&mode=retail). Nice.  8)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on September 29, 2010, 05:28 PM
Where's Yoda?   

We knew Wedge was getting pushed back, but I thought Yoda was supposed to be in this wave too...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 29, 2010, 05:58 PM
AMPLE SUPPLY?

I haven't seen one bit of the ROTS wave yet, and mind you I don't live in the sticks.  NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION of a wave takes a little bit of time.  And based on Hasbro's comments at both Comic Con and CV, it sounds like they're scrambling internally to get the ROTJ wave to market.

They are all over the Chicago area so here they are in ample supply. I see them everywhere, the only one that seems harder to track down is Cody.

BBTS has 2 ROTJ wave assortments up for pre-order. One includes 2 Gammorean Guards (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19536&mode=retail), the other, 2 Rebel Commandos (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19537&mode=retail). Nice.  8)

I bought a case of each plus extra Gammorean. Lukes and Rebels. I cannot wait for this wave. I only hope they place the ugly batch numbers in more discreet locations. I am concerned about this.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on September 29, 2010, 08:18 PM
Nice to see these up for pre-order now finally.  I can't wait for that Rebel and Gam Guard...  And Ackbar, and Luke and and and...  *sigh*  Well suffice it to say I'm pretty geeked for this wave.  I'm hoping for a good number of Rebels and Gam Guards though.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on September 29, 2010, 08:34 PM
AMPLE SUPPLY?

I haven't seen one bit of the ROTS wave yet, and mind you I don't live in the sticks.  NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION of a wave takes a little bit of time.  And based on Hasbro's comments at both Comic Con and CV, it sounds like they're scrambling internally to get the ROTJ wave to market.

They are all over the Chicago area so here they are in ample supply. I see them everywhere, the only one that seems harder to track down is Cody.


A couple of weeks can make a significant difference.  I've seen the ROTS wave at WalMart in quantity within the past week.  But it's only dribs and drabs at TRU.  And I haven't seen it at all at Target.

It's definitely remarkable that the preorders are finally starting for the ROTS wave.  EE is starting to list this wave as well.  The delivery dates are putting it out in November.  If Hasbro can hold to that schedule there is a CHANCE that wave 4 MIGHT get out before the holidays.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 29, 2010, 10:16 PM
I too haven't seen any ROTS figures. Makes me worry for the ROTJ wave in my local area, and, if this keeps up, the AOTC wave will be doomed. :-\
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt R. on September 30, 2010, 04:52 AM
In my area walmart and TRU are getting plenty of ROTS wave (I have actually seen all of the ugh foil cards), but Target isn't, I hope that target skips the ROTS wave and go right to ROTJ.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on September 30, 2010, 08:46 AM
I popped in the RS forums this morning before leaving for work and saw a post from Curto where I believe he said the EE is going to have 11 different assortments of the ROTJ wave...   :o    definitly due to the scrambling on Hasbro's part to move out Yoda and Wedge imo.

also, I am hoping EE puts these up for preorder today.  I remember reading a while back that there is a $5 off coupon that ends today - the code is "Rebelscum"

today just may be the day that I make me first order for an entire case of SW figures.

edit:  EE has them up.  Rev 4 has the 2 Gams.  I am currently scouring the internet for a code better then $5 off - which is merely a wash with BBTS as EE is charging more for shipping than BBTS
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on September 30, 2010, 09:47 AM
EE has them up. 

Wow - 11 different assortments.  That is crazy.  Looks like it's the same 11 figures in each case, you can just choose who you'd like doubles on -

Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Darth Vader
Wave 3, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C1&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Anakin
Wave 3, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C2&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Sandtrooper
Wave 3, Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C3&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Clone Trooper
Wave 3, Revision 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C4&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Gamorrean Guard
Wave 3, Revision 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C5&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Admiral Ackbar
Wave 3, Revision 6 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C6&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Luke Skywalker (Jedi Knight)
Wave 3, Revision 7 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C7&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Skiff Guard Wooof
Wave 3, Revision 8 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C8&id=HA-807301583) = 2x R2-D2
Wave 3, Revision 9 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C9&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Rebel Commando
Wave 3, Revision 10 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568C10&id=HA-807301583) = 2x Wicket
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on September 30, 2010, 10:41 AM
Yeah I couldn't find anything more than the $5 off code - so I just put in my order for the Rev 4 case.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: iFett on September 30, 2010, 10:46 AM
Are 11 revisions normal for a typical wave  ???
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 30, 2010, 05:03 PM
See - this is what I'm talking about - why pack Anakin, Vader, the Sandtrooper, and the Clonetrooper in this assortment at all?!?!

That means it's a wave of seven figures, make the cases 2x of Woof, Gamorean Guard, Ackbar, Wicket and Rebel Commando and one each of Luke and the Bar2-D2.

And then in the rev case, drop Ackbar and Wicket down to one per case and have Luke and R2 doubles instead.

Stupid stupid stupid.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on September 30, 2010, 11:12 PM
...and a missing Yoda?  ??? I wonder what's up with that?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 1, 2010, 12:38 AM
All these duplicate/repackaged figures in one case are just a scam to make money. What happened to the good old days when you could simply get all the new figures without all the old repacks in just one case?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 2, 2010, 04:20 PM
All these duplicate/repackaged figures in one case are just a scam to make money. What happened to the good old days when you could simply get all the new figures without all the old repacks in just one case?

Unfortunately, long gone - I miss those days, when things would get busy at work, I could just order by-the-case and not worry about hunting for new stuff.

The Clone Wars line is impossible to purchase cases of - you end up with so much product you don't need.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 6, 2010, 05:01 PM
Yeah, Hasbro doesn't care, they are catering to the big box places solely now and forget we collectors.

All I can say is that backfired on me. I haven't bought a full case of figures in years. In fact, This year, I haven't bought a full wave of figures from any SW line.

Lamo, shlamo. But Hasbro doesn't care about us. So I give them this salute: mlm
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 6, 2010, 06:59 PM
That's a little melodramatic don't you think?  OK, so maybe the case ratios aren't ideal, but I wouldn't say they don't care.  They're willing to hold a Q&A for us collectors, and definitely want our feedback.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 6, 2010, 11:04 PM
I'm not sure what they're thinking on some of these case ratios either, though I don't think it's got anything to do with not caring about collectors so much as them just trying a new approach and not really knowing what they're doing yet. It's the same across the board with all their lines too, Transformers, Marvel the works, they're all suffering from really stupid repack syndrome. I don't mind them repacking figures in cases, but does it have to be the exact same ones every single time? Repacking popular troop builders is a good idea, like the clone and Sandtrooper, but keeping those main characters constantly available in this particular line is kind of foolish if you ask me. They don't need to repack Anakin again, he's available in Saga Legends and Clone Wars for any of the kiddies  or parents who want him. Vader too is available in Saga Legends. Pack them in 2 per case there and replace his empty slot in this wave with the Magnaguard.

I'm hoping they get the hang of these case ratios and try to improve them as the line goes on.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on October 6, 2010, 11:18 PM
Yeah. repacking main characters in a collector line makes no sense.  Put them in Legacy, and leave room in the Vinatge line for more interesting characters, and cool army builders.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on October 7, 2010, 09:46 AM
Agreed. I don't see any reason to release another "new" Vader. He should be warming the pegs in the Legends line.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: DoctorPadawan on October 17, 2010, 02:36 PM
...and a missing Yoda?  ??? I wonder what's up with that?

I'm wondering if, given the rather vocal complaints about the Yoda figure (a ROTS figure on a ROTJ card with an ESB logo), Hasbro didn't delay this one so they could put it on a more appropriate card.  Just speculation on my part, but I'd personally be happy if they went this route.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on October 21, 2010, 04:03 PM
As per our front page...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010TVC_Wave3R2D2Loose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
First Bar2-D2 Production Image surfaces....  Clicky to enjoy!

He looks sharp.  I'm still sketchy on the smaller astromech sculpt, so we'll see I guess, but he does look very nice.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 21, 2010, 05:42 PM
I am very impressed. He may replace my Resurgence R2's... I may have to buy one off of him.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: 77Skywalker on November 6, 2010, 09:10 AM
When will this wave be available?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 6, 2010, 09:15 AM
all internet sites point to...   dramatic pause.... November
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 6, 2010, 01:40 PM
November? YES! If these get out by this month, then that means there's a better chance of the AOTC wave coming out next month, December!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 8, 2010, 12:20 PM
November? YES! If these get out by this month, then that means there's a better chance of the AOTC wave coming out next month, December!

I am not sure I am too confident with the release schedule. I think these sales will make a nice dent in the Vintage line to make room for this wave but I am surprised this wave did not appear on eBay yet. I am dying for this wave and something new...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on November 8, 2010, 03:26 PM
In stock at SWshop.com - use code "SWSCABIN" for $5 off your order
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Master_Phruby on November 8, 2010, 04:50 PM
Not there anymore. The monkey must have pushed the wrong button again.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 8, 2010, 04:55 PM
Not there anymore. The monkey must have pushed the wrong button again.

Agreed!
I do not believe it, trust but verify. Until I see a sold out message I agree it was a mistake.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on November 8, 2010, 05:19 PM
Pretty sure it was real as people did get orders placed. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=4389067&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1#Post4389589%234389067)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 8, 2010, 05:45 PM
Pretty sure it was real as people did get orders placed. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=4389067&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1#Post4389589%234389067)

I stand corrected, I hope BBTS get them in this week.

Man this wave is going to hurt my Paypal account, I have two cases, several Gammoreons, Lukes and Rebels as well. I am very much looking forward to this wave, glad this is real!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 8, 2010, 08:11 PM
Yeah I had a long time I could've slapped an order down when I was writing our story up, so I'm sure orders at least slipped through...  Not that it isn't unheard of for stuff to get cancelled, but it was going for a while.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: McMetal on November 9, 2010, 09:24 AM
So how do HTS and SWS not have basically unlimited amounts of inventory? I honestly don't get why either site should ever sell out of anything, at least as far as new stuff. They get first dibs on everything and have a direct pipeline to the factories.

I half-suspect that this is some kind of marketing ploy to limit the initial offerings in an attempt to jack up consumer interest.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2010, 10:17 AM
Hasbro has agreements with the retailers that limit how much they can sell direct to consumers via the HTS site.  TRU, Walmart, and Target don't want Hasbro opening a pipeline and cutting out some of their retail business...

So yes, in theory Hasbro should be the first to get them and should have an unlimited supply... but that would tick off their 3 major buyers, so they don't do it.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 9, 2010, 12:03 PM
Great wave, but I'm through paying for cases online.  There's too many figures these days packed in that I don't need... and I no longer have the urgency to get figures right when they first come available... besides, the $6.00 price at Wal-Mart is looking really good.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 9, 2010, 02:44 PM
Great wave, but I'm through paying for cases online.  There's too many figures these days packed in that I don't need... and I no longer have the urgency to get figures right when they first come available... besides, the $6.00 price at Wal-Mart is looking really good.

completely agree.  I just cancelled my order for a case of these - it would have been my first case order ever.  I really only want the 7 new figures, but the repacks, coupled with the high price, is making me look back towards the hunt.  

$110 for a case of figures in which I only want 8 of them.  Or, the 8 (at least a 2nd Gam Guard) figures I want at retail for $6 each...

edit:  ps - anyone know how many Gam Guards there were in the movie?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 9, 2010, 03:51 PM
A lot...

There's several in the palace chamber, some in the dungeon, several on the barge, several in the entrance...  there's a lot.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 9, 2010, 05:40 PM
FYI - BBTS  has them in, they are processing my order but not my extra Lukes and Gammoreons. I also picked up Embo and the Droid Gunship those are in stock too.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on November 9, 2010, 06:47 PM
Yeah, my order at BBTS is processing now as well, really excited to get this wave.  Now I'll just be able to focus on picking up all the extras I'd like to get from this nice group of figures.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on November 11, 2010, 10:18 AM
These are definitely starting to hit Targets out there, as our local store stocked a case of them as well this morning.  Nice that they hit during the sale, and hopefully they'll be out in good numbers.  I have a feeling many people will want a number of those Gamorreans.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 11, 2010, 04:32 PM
I just missed them this morning, I backed out from going last minute then saw local reports. I should have trusted in the Force...

Still waiting for my ship notice from BBTS. I will try my local Target tomorrow. I would not mind getting the sale price on extras.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: McMetal on November 12, 2010, 03:09 PM
I came across this Wave at 3 different Targets as well as a K-Mart, of all places. The cheap Target prices can't be beat though. I only bought the 4 I was interested in - Wooof, Wicket, Ackbar and Gammorean Guard.

Initial thoughts:

You gotta be choosy with the Wooofs, there are some funky looking ones where the helmet/cowl/whatever doesn't fit right. I'm sure it's fine if you open it and jimmy it around, but I had to go through a couple before finding a good MOC version.

The Wicket is pretty underwhelming, it just seems like not much there, especially compared to the Gammorean, which is about the heaviest figure I have ever seen on a cardback. What a sweet sculpt that is, a great achievement.

Ackbar is just plain terrific. I love the facial detailing and all-around effort they put into this one. Winner of the bunch, IMO. But then I loves some Mon Calamari.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 12, 2010, 09:33 PM
Can't wait to crack some of these open. They all look fantastic.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 13, 2010, 01:18 PM
I got 6 of the 7 at Target yesterday at lunchtime (Wicket was long-gone, oddly enough), and I have to say that this might be the best single wave of figures that Hasbro has ever done.  Every individual figure hits it out of the ballpark, and I can honestly look at each and say, "There's nowhere left to go" in terms of improvement.  The Gamorrean Guard is huge and incredible, Ackbar is outstanding, Wooof is great, Luke is probably the best Jedi Luke we've ever gotten, the Endor Rebel is the perfect army builder (although alternate heads would be great), and even R2-D2, who seems to be the "meh" figure in the bunch at first glance, is perfect, with all those accessories that integrate so well into the design.

Hasbro really hit it out of the ballpark with this wave.  After the repack/retool-a-rama in the ROTS wave, they've redeemed themselves. :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: EpicGon on November 14, 2010, 12:21 PM
Hi guys, just to look at the evolution of this wave! Great job Hasbro
Jedi Luke has got slim and taller than tlc version, he looks elegant.

This is teh way we want Hasbro to evolve Hoth Luke, Dagobah training Luke and Dagobah Landing Luke.

Ackbar is the guy we want to see seat with his console, near his Mon Calamari officers. Good caught from rotj scenes.

the Gamorrean guy would be an expert in kung fu, cause this buddy comes with three weapons ( 2 axes and the staff)
 Superb!!
I have been looking the reviews on galactic hunter and jedi-business, and expect to buy these figures.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on November 14, 2010, 12:35 PM
Found this wave today at Walmart for $6 each...cant beat that....anyways, love the G.Guard, but his skirt is HUGE....

please forgive the phone camera quality but a quick 'before and after'

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/006-4.jpg)

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/006-5.jpg)
BEFORE: cute skirt, dude!!!!

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/005-5.jpg)
AFTER: this aint your daddy's gammorean guard...this guy is packin!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 14, 2010, 04:01 PM
Ackbar and G. Guard STILL look great, for the final products. The skirt on the G. Guard is kinda poofy, though, but it's still a great presentation.

GH says that the cards are coming in unpunched. I personally don't care whether or not they are (since I'm an opener), and I bet retailers will be frustrated with unpunching every single one as they are put on the pegs...

Took a look at Luke on GH's photo archive. Man, what a great figure, Hasbro! I thought it was interesting though that in every single carded picture we've seen shows him in the bubble with the two lightsabers next to him, while the final product has him actually holding the lit lightsaber diagonally across the bubble.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 14, 2010, 04:45 PM
AmanaMatt, your skirt mod looks really nice.  thanks for the pics!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on November 14, 2010, 09:45 PM
AmanaMatt, your skirt mod looks really nice.  thanks for the pics!

Thanks! In the end, I probably went a tad too short with it....the real issue is the poofiness of the material...........I should have meantioned that I found the whole wave unpunched - except for the R2, so yeah, they are apparently shipping that way.......not a real issue for me - if I can find them that way, great...if not, great too
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 14, 2010, 11:50 PM
I should have meantioned that I found the whole wave unpunched - except for the R2, so yeah, they are apparently shipping that way.......not a real issue for me - if I can find them that way, great...if not, great too

So I'm guessing they weren't hanging from the pegs, right? Were they on some sort of display?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on November 15, 2010, 01:20 AM
Found this wave tonight when a friend wanted to do a late night WM run. I scored Ackbar, Wooff, Endor Commando and the G. Guard. Left Wicket and Bar2 on the pegs. Luke seemed to be the only one missing. Rang up at $6.96 despite the pegs saying $6. I also had unpunched cards, but they were hanging from the pegs - someone just punched the card enough to where it could hang on the pegs, but the little thingy was still hanging on.

I'll open em up tomorrow, but I can already tell these are gonna be great.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on November 15, 2010, 02:07 AM
I should have meantioned that I found the whole wave unpunched - except for the R2, so yeah, they are apparently shipping that way.......not a real issue for me - if I can find them that way, great...if not, great too

So I'm guessing they weren't hanging from the pegs, right? Were they on some sort of display?

I cracked open a case, but same thing for the punched ones on the shelf...the punched thingee was still attached to one side
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: MisterPL on November 15, 2010, 08:01 AM
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/006-4.jpg)

Hamscaping?

Now I've seen it all.

(I'll be using my beard trimmer.)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on November 15, 2010, 10:14 AM
Hey, made the front page........! Awesome...!!!!! If you use some water and get the skirt nice and wet, it tends to dry with the material looking a little less poofy!!!!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2010, 11:56 AM
Took a look at Luke on GH's photo archive. Man, what a great figure, Hasbro! I thought it was interesting though that in every single carded picture we've seen shows him in the bubble with the two lightsabers next to him, while the final product has him actually holding the lit lightsaber diagonally across the bubble.

I found this wave (aside from Luke) at our Target this weekend as well, but after looking at the Luke in GH's pictures - it really does look pretty great.  When you see that side by side shot with last year's Jedi Luke, it is almost like night and day.  I didn't think that figure was horrible by any means, but this one really takes it up a notch.  Continuing the nice run of Lukes we have gotten over the past couple years.  I hope it continues with a new Hoth Luke in 2011 or 2012.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 15, 2010, 03:29 PM
I've seen them all at retail except Luke... from the pics I've seen, he's excellent.  Can't wait to get a couple.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: richalot on November 16, 2010, 12:29 AM
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/006-4.jpg)

Instead of trimming it, pull down the black belt over the skirt. That lengthens the upper torso so it doesn't look as awkward. Also, you can pinch the skirt in the back to tighten it up front. Then using fabric glue, seal the pinch together (from beneath the skirt) and hold it for a minute. The glue dries and the skirt will look much better without a need for cutting or trimming.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on November 16, 2010, 02:24 AM
Great advice, and soo true...

THis is not my pic, full credit goes to rebelscum poster, Spookymufu. This is the best mod Ive seen so far:

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/Spookymufusmod.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 16, 2010, 09:17 AM
I'm slow getting to open this wave, but I did pop open a Rebel Commando and am very impressed. They got just about everything right with this figure. My only nit-picky gripe is the belt/bandoleer being one piece. Can't wait to start swapping parts and making some customs.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: AmanaMatt on November 16, 2010, 10:09 AM
The endor trooper is near perfect far as trooper building/modding is concerned....they did a good job on him - the cartoony head is a bit off, though
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on November 16, 2010, 12:08 PM
Just curious...will a little hair spray or gel help with the poofiness?

I have yet to see these...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 16, 2010, 02:28 PM
My thoughts on this wave so far:

Endor Rebel - A nice upgrade, but has a couple drawbacks I think though because I feel the head sculpt is really weird, as his face looks animated to me... I might actually be being too kind by saying that.  It's borderline horrid.  Also, his legs have great articulation, but he really isn't too poseable. I have two of these guys now, and both fall over if you move his legs about too much... I don't usually care for ball jointed hips, but this figure might have benefitted from that. His sculpt on the body though is great, and the upper body really has some fantastic potential for customs... essentially, it's a sweatshirt. Very plain, but a customizer's dream. I'll get a few more, but he might be the worst figure from the wave...

Ackbar - Other than a lack of ankle articulation, the good admiral is damn near perfect. The sculpt seems right out of something from Sideshow, and is well above anything we've seen from Hasbro for this species in my opinion, though the Mon Calamari warrior was a good figure.  It's just amazing how natural Ackbar looks... the articulation is also great and the way his head turns just seems so life-like.   I'll gladly purchase some more.

Woof - I have two of these and already customized one into a Rodian, could not resist as this is a great figure overall. I don't feel there's any drawbacks on this one, and the soft goods works quite well. I'll probably grab 3-4 more and actually passed on a couple today at Target because I'd rather pay Wal-Mart's price.

Gamorrean Guard - This is easily the figure of the year as far as I'm concerned... if not ever. This is the best thing I've ever seen Hasbro do. The soft goods might seem bulky to some, but I dig them and don't feel a need to make any alterations. They did such an unreal job on this figure, thank you Hasbro - THANK YOU. I want at least a dozen of this guy.  This is what Hasbro can do, and it's truly a work of art. The sculpt... articulation... accessories... paint scheme... everything. There is nothing about this figure that I'd change.

Luke - Wow, if not for the Gamorrean, I'd say this is Hasbro's best effort to date.  It's just an amazing rendition of Luke, the body proportions are so accurate looking, his head is amazing, the articulation works great with the ball joint wrists and hips... I could go on and on.  Hasbro nailed this one, finally.

Wicket - For a little furball, pretty damn good.  And I don't even like Ewoks.  The additional hood is fantastic!  I think this is well worth it and the best Ewok yet. 

R2-D2 - Haven't bought yet, passed twice at Target.  Will get at Wal-Mart later for a bit cheaper.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: iFett on November 16, 2010, 03:30 PM
Ackbar - Other than a lack of ankle articulation, the good admiral is damn near perfect.

Really?  It's been how many years since the last version and Hasbro neglected ankle articulation on Ackbar?  That's going to tick me off if I ever decide to open my figures.  Well not really, but ya...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 16, 2010, 03:43 PM
Thanks for all of the pics and reviews. Man, I feel so left out as I do not have this wave in hand yet. My BBTS orders will be here tomorrow but after seeing and hearing how great this wave is I have been on the hunt almost everyday...to no avail. I really want to get a lot of extras of this wave.

I remember when online retailers used to get stuff first and well before the box stores, now it seems they get the waves the same time. This fact almost makes me want to go on the hunt again but coming up empty handed 6 times in a row quickly squashes that thought.

Glad to here WM is getting these in too. I need to find that Tie Bomber, I have more reason to go there.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 16, 2010, 03:49 PM
Ackbar - Other than a lack of ankle articulation, the good admiral is damn near perfect.

Really?  It's been how many years since the last version and Hasbro neglected ankle articulation on Ackbar?  That's going to tick me off if I ever decide to open my figures.  Well not really, but ya...

They did the same thing with Hoth Leia from Wave One...

Would be nice to have articulated ankles on Ackbar, but if you ever have one open, I don't think it's that big of a deal actually.  At least not on this guy.  The rest of him is so nice, I hardly even noticed.

(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/Chewie/111510ackbar.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 17, 2010, 09:32 AM
I agree with Chewie on the Ackbar ankles, it's really not a big deal.

I just scored this wave this morning, all I can say is wow. My 2 cases from BBTS is also coming today so I am flooded with the Jedi wave. The nice thing will be that I can return the 8 extra figures from the two cases I do not want to Target with zero problems.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 17, 2010, 06:58 PM
I found three of these figures: Ackbar, Woof and the Gamorean Guard.

All three are excellent!

BTW...has anyone seen the Wedge figure yet?  I want two of him.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 17, 2010, 07:06 PM
Wedge is delayed - no final word on when he will be making it out.  He had issues with his head/neck area according to Hasbro and they wanted to fix him and get him right.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on November 17, 2010, 07:27 PM
I don't know if anyone has noticed yet, but Wedge and his card are pictured on the back of the Ackbar card.  The pic they chose is perfect. 

I found this entire wave today and can't say how impressed I am.  The guard and Ackbar in particular are hall of fame figures. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 17, 2010, 08:51 PM
Personally, I'm glad Wedge is pushed back.  I'm still having a headache from seeing so many orange flight suits in the line the past couple years... I guess if I didn't still see old comic packs at Wal-Mart of Rebel pilots, I might feel different though. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greg on November 17, 2010, 09:06 PM
Personally, I'm glad Wedge is pushed back.  I'm still having a headache from seeing so many orange flight suits in the line the past couple years... I guess if I didn't still see old comic packs at Wal-Mart of Rebel pilots, I might feel different though. 

Damn, is it the set with the Quarren pilot? Those actually sold quickly by me, and it's one of the few holes in my collecion.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 17, 2010, 09:20 PM
Unexpectedly saw this wave at Target for the first time, picked up Luke. Distribution has been on the spot compared to the red phase of LC. I honestly didn't expect to see these so soon.

Luke is absolutely great - Hasbro never needs to re-visit this sculpt again. Unless they do a DSII version over again. I am so impressed with this figure beyond words, I was reeling it over in my head on the way to the register if I really wanted this guy, or if I should just not buy it.

All that were missing was G.Guard and Yoda... is Yoda supposed to be in this wave? What happened?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on November 17, 2010, 09:33 PM
Yoda is dropped for now and will be released later (next year) on a Prequel-theme card.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2010, 11:09 PM
Personally, I'm glad Wedge is pushed back.  I'm still having a headache from seeing so many orange flight suits in the line the past couple years... I guess if I didn't still see old comic packs at Wal-Mart of Rebel pilots, I might feel different though. 

Damn, is it the set with the Quarren pilot? Those actually sold quickly by me, and it's one of the few holes in my collecion.

Same with me.  Those were long gone here.  The last WM exclusives lingered here though (Mohc/Battledroid guy and Weir/Storm Commando Scout guy), and I even saw those not long ago for $11, and still not selling.  The series with the Ewoks didn't blow out the door from the previous wave though, but then again nothing blows out the door in the line anymore.  And the Ewoks even sold slower than the Rebels, though slightly, around here.

The Evolutions sets were beat to death, but Hasbro's saying Rebel Pilots have done well, and continue to do so...  I think it's a situation like repaints, at least a little, and that they know people like army building Rebel Pilots and we'll be seeing more...  especially pilots with lines, or "unique" looks or something.  Just the last Q&A even said something about that, IIRC.

Wedge I'd have liked a couple of.  There's other pilots I'd like more though.  Like I'd enjoy a new Biggs Pilot...  The one we have is absurdly tall.  Garrick Hagan's really not that much taller than Mark Hammil.  I could stand a new Porkins too, though that's one I'd probably equally live without since out of Rebel Pilots he's probably one of the lamer, due to his girth. 

Wedge is up there with Dak though, for relative genericness...  And Dak flew (no pun) off pegs here.  He only started backing up once the ROTS wave was out a good while and the ESB Wave reshipped.  And after Target's sale, and WM's $6 price,  Dak is once again gone here...  unless you count TRU, which I've written them off as a fair comparison since they're even absurdly priced compared to K-Mart now. 

A new head, new helmet...  new figure, I guess.  It's an easy formula to fill out a wave for little money, and squeeze in some new tooling obscurity too.  I certainly like that over a random Clone repaint I guess. :)

No more 3-packs it seems, but I wouldn't be shocked to see pilot/droid sets, or more of the Endor-type sets, at some point.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 17, 2010, 11:24 PM
Yoda is dropped for now and will be released later (next year) on a Prequel-theme card.

Aaw, I was really looking forward to this figure. But I can understand why he would be getting a new card, the figure itself is too PT for an OT card.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 18, 2010, 12:39 AM
Yoda is dropped for now and will be released later (next year) on a Prequel-theme card.

Aaw, I was really looking forward to this figure. But I can understand why he would be getting a new card, the figure itself is too PT for an OT card.

Exactly. Happy to see the delay.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: McMetal on November 18, 2010, 09:25 AM
Are the POP's from the figures in this wave eligible for the various mailaway promotions? (Bric and Boba) The numbers do not seem to match up to the ones listed on the forms. Are only Vintage figs from the first wave eligible?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 18, 2010, 01:22 PM
So yeah, I grabbed one of each of these from this wave last night.  my quick impressiosns:

Gamorrean Guard:  awesome.  I wish his helmet stuck on better or didn't come of at all, but that is not a biggie.  I tried replicating what the guy did over at RS.com to his but I couldn't move that belt around so much.  I ended up soaking his soft goods in water to de-poof him.  This stuff retains water a lot, I soaked him last night and as of this morning he was still pretty wet.  Gonna have to set him some place else to help him dry more or else he might start to smell like he looks...

Ackbar:  pretty great all the way around.  Mine looks like he is leaning slightly to the left from the torso up.  Quick question, what are his accessoires, do they have names?

Jedi Luke:  wow!  the hips are perfect imo.  I am not too certain how I feel about the look of his wrist articulation - but everything else about him is great.

Woof:  I was really excited about this one since I never had him as a kid.  But when I picked him up and opened him I wasn't as "wowed" as I expected I would be.  His skin tone seems too light - I think he should be the same skin color as the one we got in the Legacy collection last year.  I also wish his helmet fit better - or possibly didn't come off at all.

Bar2-D2:  pretty neat.  as I expected.  Not going crazy over him.  took a min to figure how to lower the middle leg.

Rebel Commando:  I like him a lot.  I have read a lot of complaints about the head sculpt.  the sculpt doesn't bother me at all - I think his skin tone is a touch too pink.

Wicket:  He looks great - love the lil bugger.  For some reason mine has a looser left leg and if you move it around a bit it will fall out.  I like both of the head gears but prefer the ROTJ look - it just looks better imo, and I am a fan of the cartoon.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 18, 2010, 03:10 PM
I loved this Luke figure so much that I made him my standard ROTJ base for all of his outfit changes. FYI - I will be changing out Jedi Lukes gloved hand soon

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/LUKEJEDILD.jpg)

I also modded a few of the Rebel commandos to have some variety:

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/REBELCOMMANDOLD.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 18, 2010, 03:16 PM
Personally, I'm glad Wedge is pushed back.  I'm still having a headache from seeing so many orange flight suits in the line the past couple years... I guess if I didn't still see old comic packs at Wal-Mart of Rebel pilots, I might feel different though. 

Damn, is it the set with the Quarren pilot? Those actually sold quickly by me, and it's one of the few holes in my collecion.

Yeah - two Wal-Marts in my area had to clearance those out for $4.00 to get about a dozen of them to move.  Another still had a couple for $11.00 as of a month ago in the clearance aisle. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2010, 03:51 PM
So how badly does the vest restrict the arm movement, JACK?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 18, 2010, 04:34 PM
So how badly does the vest restrict the arm movement, JACK?

JJ, It restricts to a great extent but the movement is still better than what it was previousl on the old troopers. It looks decent and I think it's worth trying. You can always swap them back. Until we get different styles this will hold me over and gave me an excuse to retire the Saga ones. I am still keeping the Saga2 ones in the mix.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 18, 2010, 05:08 PM
Looks like you're already enjoying those Rebels... looking at that picture makes me appreciate the tin set head one even more, it looks like the best of those four heads by far.  I'm glad I have a couple of that head still.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 18, 2010, 05:35 PM
Looks like you're already enjoying those Rebels... looking at that picture makes me appreciate the tin set head one even more, it looks like the best of those four heads by far.  I'm glad I have a couple of that head still.

I am having fun with this whole wave, it's the best! The tin head fits a little loose but will not fall off either, it works well and sure looks better off of that dated body. I am going to experiment with a few more head that will not need to be dremmeled. Despite me making tons of customs I like to have clean swap with the stuff I keep in my collection. I may have to make a Nik Sant though...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 18, 2010, 07:29 PM
I picked up Wicket, Luke and another Gammorean today.

The Luke is great...although an articulated chest (ala AOTC Obi-Wan) would have been great...although it probably would have hurt the sculpt.  Minor gripe.

I'll have to get another Wicket to display in his "Frodo" garb.  I really like the ball-jointed hips!

I will need two more Gammoreans for my Jabba's palace display.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: iFett on November 18, 2010, 07:38 PM
Picked this wave up this morning at Target and loving all of them.  My Ackbar has a worker's hair in the bubble though - at least I assume it's from a factory worker.  First carded figure I've seen this in since I started collecting.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2010, 08:00 PM
I got Luke and R2...  All that I could find tonight.  Luke is nice, but I'm still not disappointed in the last Luke personally.  I like the hips though, and it's very accurate looking.

R2's not nearly as different, so I'm happy.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 18, 2010, 08:23 PM
R2's not nearly as different, so I'm happy.

I agree, I really though he was going to be noticeably smaller but thankfully he is not. I like him more than I thought I would. I am torn at which R2 should be my standard this one or the Resurgence.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on November 18, 2010, 08:33 PM
I'm actually very taken with this R2.  As much as I love and wanted the Sneak Preview version, this one actually is better.  The fact that he's smaller is barely noticable at all.

Luke is nearly perfect.  he destroys all previous versions.  The likeness is pretty good, not nearly as good as some of the more recent Luke's, which is the only real drawback for me.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 18, 2010, 09:12 PM
Luke already has a variation. (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7197/#details)

Funny, I just scored the figure yesterday (sans peg for the lightsaber hilt). ::)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2010, 09:16 PM
Mine I just bought has the pegged hilt it seems.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: iFett on November 18, 2010, 10:23 PM
Glad to hear that R2's smaller size isn't really that big of a deal.  Not that I open my figures, but I was disappointed when I heard the news for some reason after accumulating so many different droids over the years....
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 18, 2010, 11:13 PM

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/REBELCOMMANDOLD.jpg)

Thank you, thank you. Been thinking about doing those mods myself. Glad they work.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2010, 11:20 PM
I think I'll do one of the vested troopers.  I'm sure I have a vest here somewhere.  Thanks JACK.  I figured it'd be better than the previous verison.  Most of the troopers on Endor are rocking the vest.  I hope Hasbro redoes them (and then gets to a nice blonde Nik Sant).  Then I'd like to see the POTF2 and/or Vintage Trooper redone too.  They're different, but mostly only minor...  I'd at least like the POTF2 Trooper redone.

I'd dig an homage to the vintage with the camo hooded coat on, but opened too though.  It's a neat possibility I think.

Love the Endor Rebs...  I'm a little disappointed in him being bald is all.  The Sergeant was done perfect for Sideshow's 12" figure.  Very accurate to the guy in the coat.  Hasbro's is close in the face actually, but he shouldn't be bald, so I'll be at the least headswapping.  I have a military figure with a perfect sculpt I think, that I'll use someday.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: darth broem 2 on November 19, 2010, 08:58 AM
It's probably mentioned somewhere in this thread.  Is Hasbro going to release Luke on a different cardback later on?  I'm buying both versions if they do, but was just wondering if anyone knew? 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 19, 2010, 09:36 AM
It's probably mentioned somewhere in this thread.  Is Hasbro going to release Luke on a different cardback later on?  I'm buying both versions if they do, but was just wondering if anyone knew?  

From what they said in a Q&A, yes.

Thank you, thank you. Been thinking about doing those mods myself. Glad they work.

No problem! Glad you and Jesse found the pics useful, I was hoping some would.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 19, 2010, 10:06 AM
Can't wait to get this wave.

Is there any place that breaks down the kinds of troopers on Endor? I know there's the trenchcoat guys, the vest guys and the fatigues guys. Were there any more?

And on the same topic, were they supposed to be the Rebel's special forces team? I would assume they didn't just send grunts to take out the shield generator.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 19, 2010, 12:07 PM
Can't wait to get this wave.

Is there any place that breaks down the kinds of troopers on Endor? I know there's the trenchcoat guys, the vest guys and the fatigues guys. Were there any more?

And on the same topic, were they supposed to be the Rebel's special forces team? I would assume they didn't just send grunts to take out the shield generator.

Here ya go:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Endor_Strike_Team
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on November 19, 2010, 03:01 PM
http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByCategory.htm?CD=121&BR=495

In stock at Hasbrotoyshop
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on November 19, 2010, 03:09 PM
...plus Family2010 apparantly gets you 25% off plus free shipping if you spend over $50 (after the discount).  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 19, 2010, 03:14 PM
Also, from what's implied in ROTJ, Han picks the team himself...  That leads me to believe they're definitely special forces despite any EU materials.

By the way, I just placed an order, and only allowed me 2 Gams and 2 Endor Rebs.  Just incase anyone's curious.  Thanks for that code Jeff. :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Paul on November 19, 2010, 03:46 PM
Well I had 2 Gam Guards in my cart and while I was trying to make it to $50 and free shipping, they sold out.

Endor Trooper is the Pegwarmer in my area shockingly enough.

How many were actually on Endor, I may stop at that number.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on November 19, 2010, 03:51 PM
Endor trooper has been the easiest to find in my area too (so far).

I wonder if that horrid face has something to do with it... just doesn't look nearly as good as what we've seen Hasbro do as of late.  Also the coat hides his new upper body sculpt/articulation.  A friend of mine thought it was just the older sculpt with a new head and passed... not everyone sees pics online.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 19, 2010, 04:25 PM
Well, I was able to order everyone except the Gammorean Guard. I grabbed a couple Endor rebels. Maybe I'll try to do a headswap on those guys.

I like the idea of a rebel commando squad. I also like the fact that they're wearing rag-tag fatigues...it gives them the look of WWII freedom fighters. And it's much more realistic than the commando armor that we see Luke wearing in the comic pack from last year...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2010, 12:11 AM
Well I had 2 Gam Guards in my cart and while I was trying to make it to $50 and free shipping, they sold out.

Endor Trooper is the Pegwarmer in my area shockingly enough.

How many were actually on Endor, I may stop at that number.

It's a fair many it seems...  Especially throwing in the Dressellians too.

The infamous picture around Vader gives a number, but I don't think it's the accurate number of troops.  Plus then they split up...  It's one number that's a real pain to tack down specifically.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on November 20, 2010, 03:56 PM
I found this wave at WM this morning, and picked up a few.  Only one Gam. Guard there, but lots of the Endor trooper here as well (somewhat surprisingly).  Picked up some extras of some of the others as well though (Luke, Ackbar, Wicket), just a great wave overall.  It is really full of some "ultimate" versions of many characters, so it is tough not to grab some each time you see them.  One of the best waves in a good while I think, with several "figure of the year" candidates.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2010, 04:07 PM
Found these at my local WM today. Best wave in years. Had to hold back on some carded figures, but couldn't resist picking up a few for my carded collection- Gam. Guard, Luke, and Wicket.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 21, 2010, 06:45 AM
6 AM on Sunday, woke up and found these back in stock and shipping in 1 business day at hasbrotoyshop.com

Limit 2 of each figure per customer, and don't forget Family2010.  You need to spend $50, but you'll have this whole wave shipped to your door for $7 each.

Glad these are back up, I've been annoyed for 2 days since Gamorreans went out of stock while they were in my cart/checking out on Friday.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JediJman on November 21, 2010, 08:31 AM
...plus Family2010 apparantly gets you 25% off plus free shipping if you spend over $50 (after the discount).  ;)


Jeff, thanks for finding the bargain as usual!  I ordered a set of 8 figures this morning - can't go wrong at $6 per figure instead of $8 at retail.  I'm still going to try to get my second set locally because I like the hunt and want to make sure I get nice cards/bubbles, but very happy to at least have 1 of each secured!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 21, 2010, 04:30 PM
got another set of these guys plus some extras at KMart with the BOGO   ;D
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 22, 2010, 07:58 PM
I loved this Luke figure so much that I made him my standard ROTJ base for all of his outfit changes. FYI - I will be changing out Jedi Lukes gloved hand soon

Jack,

I'm curious how you'll do this with the way his wrists are articulated.  To my knowledge, they haven't done this type of articulation on a wrist before.

One thing that would've made this Luke perfect, and a nice vintage nod, would've been a softgoods cape.  :D
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2010, 09:17 PM
Clone Wars Clones have that style articulation Matt, but I think in general the pegs are about the same size as average figures, and ultimately you could fill in the hole and retap it (like a stripped screw in a board) to a smaller diameter incase the regular wrist pegs are smaller.

Just squirt some epoxy in there, and tap it with a small drill bit.  It'd work perfectly.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 23, 2010, 09:06 AM
I did some Ewok hood swapping last night and it came out ok.  I bought 2 Wickets of course, that way I could have one in each hood (just what Hasbro wanted me to do).  In doing so I ended up with 2 extra hoods (1 movie, 1 cartoon).  I ended up digging out an extra Paploo/Nho'Apakk set that I had from the legacy line to see what the swaps would look like. 

I ended up giving Paploo the extra cartoon version hood and Nho'Apakk the extra movie hood.  Nho'Apakk looked decent imo with the ROTJ hood - kinda making it look like more of a feminine Ewok.  Paploo looked ok too with the cartoon hood; however, since he is pretty close in size and fur color to Wicket he didn't look that much different than Wicket with the cartoon hood.  I did leave his Paploo's belt on.  I will up a pic later if I remember.

Wicket is great and all - but doing all of this swapping last night made me miss the whole 2 Ewoks in a pack thing...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 23, 2010, 12:40 PM
Ordered this wave on HTS Sunday morning, and just got the box 48 hours later.

What an outstanding wave.  I can't get over how awesome the Gamorrean is in particular.  I'm getting a dozen of these guys.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt on November 23, 2010, 05:10 PM
Don't like that what is apparently a Senate Duel Yoda has the ESB pic on a ROTJ card.  Hmm.

Me either.  It's sacrilege.

From HH: (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/11/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-32.html)

Quote
1) What happened to the Vintage Collection Yoda that was shown this summer? He was shown with the RotJ wave, but hasn't been listed in any of the case assortments for either the RotJ wave or the AotC wave. Was he postponed into 2011 like Wedge or was he dropped altogether?

** We actually pulled him out of the waves to redo the card art to be reflective of the Senate Battle Yoda from Episode III that we first envisioned. He will find his way back into the line in early '11.

Whew.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 24, 2010, 12:05 AM
From HH: (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/11/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-32.html)

Quote
1) What happened to the Vintage Collection Yoda that was shown this summer? He was shown with the RotJ wave, but hasn't been listed in any of the case assortments for either the RotJ wave or the AotC wave. Was he postponed into 2011 like Wedge or was he dropped altogether?

** We actually pulled him out of the waves to redo the card art to be reflective of the Senate Battle Yoda from Episode III that we first envisioned. He will find his way back into the line in early '11.

Whew.

I'm happy we're seeing him in early '11 and not sometime in early/late '12. I'm honestly surprised they're putting him back in the line so fast.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt on November 24, 2010, 12:19 PM
I'm happy we're seeing him in early '11 and not sometime in early/late '12. I'm honestly surprised they're putting him back in the line so fast.

Oh, I don't give a **** when, or even if that prequel abomination comes out at all.  I'm just glad that when he does, it won't be on that classic vintage cardback.  That's what I was whewing about.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: ruiner on November 24, 2010, 01:10 PM
But Matt, he WILL be on a classic vintage cardback, it will just be ROTS instead of something cool like ROTJ or TESB.

Which begs the question, why wasn't he released on an OT cardback?  We still don't have a decent version of Yoda from TESB.

(http://www.guidedbyyoda.com/images/yoda_in_swamp.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2010, 03:42 PM
I was thinking they were avoiding characters already released on vintage cards...  Snowtrooper slipped into Legends with Bossk, and IG-88, no classic Han or Luke, etc.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: EpicGon on November 24, 2010, 03:46 PM
I think a new tvc Yoda (from esb or rotj) must depict an utility belt over his cloak.
Other requirement would be a neutral facial expression (aotc Yoda figure shows a fighting expression), plus a better paintjob to match his skin tone.

His head in modern line is medium size, perhaps the most accurate.

Head dimension improved in tvc gamorrean version, cause potf2 figure was kinda "papaya head"; then it diminished and sculptors sharpened his profile.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on November 24, 2010, 07:30 PM
Got this wave today (no guard...) and man these are some great figures.  And I jumped up and down when I opened Wooof beccause it was an actual NEW FIGURE!!!

However, if all resculpts were this good, I'd be fine with almost anything being redone.

And, there's some reuse of parts in this wave that are done very well.  The rebel's legs, Wooof's face.  This sort of thing doesn't botehr me at all, and Hasbro should plan to use parts this well in the future...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2010, 08:26 PM
Woof's face is re-used?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on November 24, 2010, 08:33 PM
I've read a number of people who have said that Wooof and Giran had the same head, but they look pretty different to me...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2010, 08:44 PM
I just did a comparison, as I'd forgotten about Giron.

They're different headsculpts...  First the neckpegs don't fit each other, but there are subtle differences in the 2 chin spikes, the ears, etc.  The expression is even almost identical but has a slight difference.

It's incredibly subtle, but it is a different sculpt for sure.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on November 25, 2010, 12:17 PM
Yeah...they do look different, but man, they are close.  I assumed they tiny differences were the tooling and paint, but yes...there are slight differences. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 26, 2010, 04:06 AM
So Giran and Wooof are the same alien species? I had no idea of that before, it kind of makes me regret not picking up Giran now...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on November 26, 2010, 03:15 PM
So Giran and Wooof are the same alien species? I had no idea of that before, it kind of makes me regret not picking up Giran now...

I just opened this figure today and it ranks near the top of what Hasbro's done for action figures in recent years. They couldn't have chosen a better fabric for the soft goods. It's too bad they didn't design the heads pegs for Giran and Wooof to be interchangeable. It would have been very cool to be able to make both the green and gray face version of "Klaatu" from the '83 Vintage line.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 26, 2010, 03:35 PM
I'm hoping it's not a slim chance, but hopefully Hasbro can repack Slave Leia on a Vintage card in one of the upcoming waves... I never once saw that figure in the wild during the LC days...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on November 26, 2010, 04:45 PM
I'm slowly but surely making my way through this wave... so far I've opened Wicket, Bar2 and the Endor Commando.

Bar2 is one of those figures that I didn't have ANY interest in but I'm really glad I ended up picking him up. The size difference is noticeable when compared to the Resurgence R2, but not that much. He's about the same height as the animated CW R2 but he's not as wide. He just seems like a slightly smaller version of R2. The features are built in so well, he has the sensorscope that's seen when the Skiff picks the droids up from the sand, and the electric thing he uses to free Leia with. The popup feature is pretty cool too. Honestly I'd probably buy a "normal" version of this R2 with no gimmicks.

Wicket is cool, but he's another Ewok. Love the improved articulation and the sculpt is great. Second hood is worthless to me but it's cool to have.

Endor Commando, the only downside I'd say is the face. Everything else is perfect. I'm going to fool around with the other Endor soldiers I have and try to do some headswaps. The black Endor soldier's head is a little too small for the Commando body.

Overall, a great wave, and I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greg on November 26, 2010, 07:37 PM
So Giran and Wooof are the same alien species? I had no idea of that before, it kind of makes me regret not picking up Giran now...

I've got a Giran for $5.00 shipped if you would like a friend for Wooof. He's opened, but still in the bubble tray. PM me if you're interested.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 27, 2010, 02:16 PM
I've got a Giran for $5.00 shipped if you would like a friend for Wooof. He's opened, but still in the bubble tray. PM me if you're interested.

Thanks, I'll definitely keep that in mind. :)

Visited Target yesterday, and you can tell the holiday season is kicking in - toys scattered all over the place, Star Wars figures falling off the shelves and the best ones hidden at the very back of the shelves... ;)

I'm pleasantly surprised that it's not very hard at all to find the ROTJ wave. Yesterday I saw Rebel Commando, Wooof, and Ackbar. Just two weeks ago I had encountered 2 cases of the entire wave, minus the Gam. Guards. If anything, the ROTS wave is harder to find. :o Besides Anakin, Obi, and Sandtrooper, I haven't seen any of the others in the wild.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Crackbrick on November 28, 2010, 08:17 PM
Found R2.

cb
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: David on November 28, 2010, 10:13 PM
Picked up my first Rebel Commando of many at Walmart the other day. Still looking for the pig guard.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2010, 01:30 AM
Just found the full wave for the first time at WM tonight...  One of each that I wanted.  They had 2 or 3 Lukes, 2 or 3 R2's, and some Ackbars.  Some of these were from multiple cases because there were lingering figures the other night at the same store.

Only one Wicket, one Gammie, and one Rebel, so I started my quest to get all those guys. :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scockery on December 5, 2010, 07:58 PM
I found Rebel Commando and Wooof at Wal-Mart for $7, then found them again at Target for $6. So I will be returning a Wooof to Wal-mart. I don't know why only those guys were left. Not like one of each, either. Target had three Klaatu and four commandos...Ackbar and R2-D2 bartender really are more popular than them? REALLY?

I dislike the Commando's hunched neck, they took a page from 1996 and the Tusken Raider who liked to stare at the ground. Also, I accidently puched a hole through his trenchcoat with the packback peg. Sucks that his head isn't swappable with hoth rebels, not without carving or whatever.

Wooof is  pretty awesome.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Rob on December 5, 2010, 10:20 PM
I'm thinking I'm going to stock up on these Gamorrean Guards.  3 so far, looking at maybe 6 total...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on December 5, 2010, 10:52 PM
Yeah, the Gammorean Guards kick all types of ass.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 7, 2010, 05:59 PM
Guys, do not mind this post, it's meant for Dressel Rebel. I was modding some of my troops and merged Major Panno with the new Rebel Commando. I was thinking it's something he may dig. Here is the result of a simple pop and swap:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TANU1UtGTjQ/TP65Xp_HMjI/AAAAAAAABro/dft8PaKSWss/s400/DRESSREB+2.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TANU1UtGTjQ/TP65YLRLDBI/AAAAAAAABrs/AN95H9oGA1o/s400/DRESSREB+1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 7, 2010, 06:15 PM
I'm totally mindin that post!

Nice work on the custom work though...even if it is something simple to do.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 8, 2010, 04:58 PM
I can't afford AOTC wave yet... not with Christmas so close.  I kind of hope they start hitting in early-mid January... but at the same time, I don't feel ROTJ has shipped in sufficient numbers yet... Gamorreans are too hard to come by I think.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2010, 07:50 PM
AOTC wave's had sightings in Asia, so I think we'll see them either early January or by the end of December.  Not far at all.

I agree though, ROTJ hasn't shipped well enough yet for my liking either.  Luke, Endor Rebel, and Gammies are hard to find, and Wicket's a close second, and then Woof, Ackbar, and R2 are the only things anyone sees routinely at this stage.  The $6 price is making stuff fly too.  It's easy to say, "Eh, what the hell", on picking up a Sandtrooper or Clone... 

At Target here, Sandtroopers have become almost impossible to pick up, actually, as has much of the ROTS Wave which had some pegwarmers for a while there like Anakin.

They're down to pretty much nothing interesting these days.  WM's getting there too.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on December 8, 2010, 09:57 PM
I agree...I've only seen the ROTJ wave once!  And I never got the GG.  So I assume there will be more.  I don't think they have even shown up at TRU, have they?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2010, 10:59 PM
Wow, that's shocking!  At $9.99 a figure, you'd think they'd be blowing out the door there. :)

I don't think ROTS wave even showed up at TRU around here.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 9, 2010, 12:02 AM
JTA has a front-page report that EE.com is entirely out of ROTJ cases, and they won't be getting any more shipments. Does this mean that ROTJ cases will begin to dry up at retail? They've only been out for a little more than a month...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on December 9, 2010, 09:00 AM
No.  There's a lot of cases in the pipeline, and too many new tools in that assortment to make a small run.  EE might have sold out becaus eit was such an awesome case/wave that people didn't want to miss it.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2010, 09:34 AM
I disagree...I think you had better buy these up ASAP, because there will not be many around in the weeks to come. They have been flying off the shelves around here. TRU has been unable to order ANY cases whatsoever in advance of the holiday rush.

I don't think they made a small run, the demand has just exceeded their expectations wildly.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on December 9, 2010, 02:48 PM
How do you know that TRU will not get this wave?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 9, 2010, 03:21 PM
I don't know about the run numbers, but I've seen evidence that the ROTJ wave hit in full force at a lot of stores - mainly Wal-Mart and certain Targets... I mean, when at a lot of stores I see 8-10 each of Endor Rebels, Ackbars, and Woofs but not a single of the other figures from the wave?  That indicates to me that they might not get too many more cases in.

So, this wave might be exceeding Hasbro's expectations... their solution?  Overproduce the hell out of the ANH wave, which sucks.  And then we get a bottleneck that hurts the vintage line, which Hasbro blames on collectors.  And Hasbro then takes shots at collectors in the Q&As.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2010, 03:48 PM
How do you know that TRU will not get this wave?

I didn't say that they would NOT get it, I said they have been unable to obtain any of those figures around here so far, despite trying. I have a friend who works there that happens to be an avid SW buff, and he was just voicing his frustration about this the other day. The local store is literally right next to Wal-Mart, which has stocked at least 5-6 cases of the ROTJ Wave over the past few weeks. TRU just cannot get any of these into inventory.

TRU is pulling in huge numbers of shoppers right now, and around here the pegs are an atrocious wasteland, 1 wave behind on Vintage and at least 2 waves behind now on TCW. I suspect that is not just an unfortunate coincidence. (Maybe this is Hasbro's payback for ignoring the "street date" back in August - my friend has wondered this aloud as well)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on December 9, 2010, 04:07 PM
How is your local TRU store's Vintage stock?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2010, 04:12 PM
Yeah, my stores don't have much ROTS in even.  It's all wave 1 because they're grossly overpriced.   It's not a real shock then that they can't get the latest stuff in and WM/Target/KM can.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jeff on December 9, 2010, 04:26 PM
It's all wave 1 because they're grossly overpriced.

Agreed.  My local TRU is loaded with ESB/RotS stuff (including the UGHs) and it's been the same since early September.  I just don't see how they will get rid of them at $10 each.  What collector wants to pay $10 at TRU when Target/Walmart are down to $6 now?  What parent/grandparent is going to buy a $10 "star wars guy" when they've had a bunch of "2-for-$11.99" or "2-for-$9.99" sale opportunities on the CW/Legends over the last few weeks?
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2010, 04:58 PM
Yeah, the sales weren't even on my mind, but they're not going to help the sales of Vintage at all either...  Why buy $9.99 Anakin, when $5 Anakin can be had with a Clone for $5?

TRU's shot themselves in the foot completely with Vintage.  I don't know if whoever did their purchasing and price-setting said, "Well we sold them on these cards for $10 before, so let's try it again!  They're for collectors afterall!", not really anticipating that the other retailers actually give a **** about MSRP's and sticking close to them so they can compete.

TRU is the new Kay-Bee at times though.  I'm not really near TRU anyway so it doesn't impact me a lot, but it's frustrating.  I'm glad I didn't buy one vintage figure off them though, out of principle.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2010, 05:57 PM
How is your local TRU store's Vintage stock?

Mostly ESB, a smattering of ROTS, and available space for more on the pegs. Their vintage stuff is not moving at all right now, it's been the same batch sitting there for weeks seemingly. More or less the same at the other TRU across town as well.

Yeah, I think it will be an unusually epic fail if they go all the way til X-Mas with the current stock. They do have about 50 Boba Fett UBP's if you need 'em though.  ::)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 9, 2010, 05:58 PM
I would think that TRU just might not be ordering ROTJ because their overpriced Wave 1 and Wave 2 stuff isn't selling? 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on December 9, 2010, 10:19 PM
TRU really shot themselves in the foot with their Vintage pricing.  I'm amazed that they haven't adjusted considering what the competition is doing.

JTA has a front-page report that EE.com is entirely out of ROTJ cases, and they won't be getting any more shipments. Does this mean that ROTJ cases will begin to dry up at retail? They've only been out for a little more than a month...

I would not take this as gospel.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 10, 2010, 06:14 AM
TRU really shot themselves in the foot with their Vintage pricing.  I'm amazed that they haven't adjusted considering what the competition is doing.

Well said, Nick.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: jono on December 10, 2010, 06:19 AM
I have to say -without wishing to offend anyone who works on that site - i find it rich that they sound the alarm bell about soon to be gone jedi wave,then just  a few posts down theres an indulgent (parr for the course in this hobby i supose.) article about how they can't stop army building pig guards!

Things look bleak for us in the UK the wave is Pre-Pre sold out without any of it hitting retail. There is an exclusive deal with T R us over here ...but wether Hasbro USA has alloted stock for that -Feck Knows!

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on December 10, 2010, 10:09 AM
Here's my take...TRU breaks the street date in Aug with TVC.  They sell really well becasue we all want new figs, despite price.  TRU orders more of the TVC.  However, it's still so early in the game that when the orders are filled, they are still all the ESB wave.  While they may have many more waves on order, and that includes ROTJ, they can't get them to the stores because the computers see the pegs as full.

Maybe. I don't know.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2010, 11:26 AM
Here's my take...TRU breaks the street date in Aug with TVC.  They sell really well becasue we all want new figs, despite price.  TRU orders more of the TVC.  However, it's still so early in the game that when the orders are filled, they are still all the ESB wave.  While they may have many more waves on order, and that includes ROTJ, they can't get them to the stores because the computers see the pegs as full.

Maybe. I don't know.

Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on December 10, 2010, 11:34 AM
Finally found the GG after finding the rest of the wave a few times.

He's a very strong figure.  While the skirt is very poofy, if you don't want to cut it, it can be turned around with  the shorter part in front.

However...I am sick of removable helmets.  It was never something I ever wanted in my figs and I hate them.  Why?  Because they just fall off!  Sure, if there's  chin strap or a tight fit, I'll go for it, but this guy's helmet is just placed on.  Crazy glue here I come again...(Don't get me started about Cad Bane...)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on December 10, 2010, 11:40 AM
However...I am sick of removable helmets.  It was never something I ever wanted in my figs and I hate them.  Why?  Because they just fall off!  Sure, if there's  chin strap or a tight fit, I'll go for it, but this guy's helmet is just placed on.  Crazy glue here I come again...(Don't get me started about Cad Bane...)

I was sort of thinking the same thing.  Don't get me wrong, I think removable helmets are cool and a neat feature, but that is the one drawback to the GG to me, his helmet falls off way too easily.  It would be even more frustrating for a kid, who actually plays with these things.  You know that would be getting lost awfully quick.  I've noticed that with more of the removable helmet type things lately, they seem to fall off a little too easily - at least the non-trooper ones.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 10, 2010, 03:02 PM
Guys, do not mind this post, it's meant for Dressel Rebel. I was modding some of my troops and merged Major Panno with the new Rebel Commando. I was thinking it's something he may dig. Here is the result of a simple pop and swap:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TANU1UtGTjQ/TP65Xp_HMjI/AAAAAAAABro/dft8PaKSWss/s400/DRESSREB+2.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TANU1UtGTjQ/TP65YLRLDBI/AAAAAAAABrs/AN95H9oGA1o/s400/DRESSREB+1.jpg)

Awesome!  This is a really good idea to change up the ranks a little bit.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2010, 03:08 PM
I like removable helmets, except on Clones and Stormtroopers... Hasbro makes those too damn bulky and the details are often quite horrid.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 10, 2010, 03:10 PM
I like removable helmets, except on Clones and Stormtroopers... Hasbro makes those too damn bulky and the details are often quite horrid.

Yeah A-Wing, X-Wing helmets have been really good.  Endor, Hoth too.  Most really.  Even some of the clone helmets are good.  Airborne clones and Galactic Marines for example. 

I have also not liked any of the removable phase II or III clone trooper helmets or stormtrooper helmets.  With the exception of the felucia clone, 327th Star Corps for some reason.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on December 10, 2010, 03:17 PM
I'm not particularly bothered by it, but I could see them changing the sculpts to improve them as well.  Maybe enlarging them slightly would help.  The Phase 2, or 1, or whatever the first style helmet from AOTC is, looks fine to me though.  The ROTS style helmet is the one that generally doesn't look good.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2010, 04:54 PM
Yeah, it's primarily the basic ROTS removable helmets and the Stormtrooper removable helmets that have had issues in terms of appearance.

I'd be happier if they just left them alone and didn't make them removable or made it to where they came with an alternate head, like on the first Clone Wars Kenobi that is still in circulation to this day.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 23, 2010, 01:02 PM
I picked up the Bar-2 last night and I have to say I'm underwhelmed.  I don't like how the sensorscope piece fits in.  Basically, you cannot have it in the lowered position without the center leg being out.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on December 31, 2010, 11:23 AM
The fight for figure of the year has begun!
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5511/dsc00849ho.jpg)

Hulk rises from the piggy pile!
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/98/dsc00851nu.jpg)

Hulk, leader of the piggy people!
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3026/dsc00852c.jpg)

There's a new piggy in town!
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5620/dsc00853ti.jpg)

**credit for the head swap in the last pic goes to Toonimator from rebelscum.com  I read it in a post of his and thought it was a pretty cool idea.  Note the head is just resting on the ball joint, it does not fit - the socket is way too big.

Ps -Hasbro just needs to sell cases of the Gamorreans.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scockery on December 31, 2010, 08:33 PM
Finally found a Gamorrean Guard today. Paying *gasp* $7.99, actual retail, really sucks after holiday sales.

No offensive to its fans, but it's probably the most overrated Star Wars figure of the year.

-Ball jointed shoulders with 90% of their ball-movement restricted. Ummm...why'd they bother? I know they are capable of having shoulder armor and allowing some ball-socket shoulder movement, they've done it before. With GG you have to force it, risking paint rubs and loose joints. Not cool.
-Swivel hips that can't really swivel. If they are hidden by the skirt, why the heck did they restrict them? This is a STEP BACKWARDS from both previous 3 3/4" versions of the character. It reduces the benefits of the knees and ankles, too.
-The helmet that falls off constantly.
-The skirt mess.

That said, it's not a bad figure. The three weapons are nice. The sculpting is good (except where it restricts movement). And at least he doesn't have a goatee. It's just a few bad calls by Hasbro that kept GG from being truly great.

I probably won't be picking up another one, unless there's a good sale or I actually get the new Jabba the Hutt (Fat chance...ha...of that, as the only Wal-Mart here that carried him, sold out.), and want to round out his court. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 31, 2010, 11:33 PM
Drugs!  Vintage gamorrean a step backwards?! Best likeness of a star wars character in a figure ever period.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on January 1, 2011, 03:50 AM
Scockery, I'll keep an eye out for Jabba for you.  There had been some lingering here for a while that came in the second shipment.  Not sure if they're still floating about or not.

And I don't know that I'd be so harsh on the GG, but he's not flawless, and I do think the "overrated" applies in some ways (sorry Dressel).  He's a great figure to me, but flawed in some ways too, and I'd still gladly put VTSC IG-88, VOTC/EB Chewie, and others a notch above.  I think I like him better than you do though, Scockery. 

But I think the gushing over him is deserved in one way, but in another way I think we've seen as good or better in the line before.  Even some characters that mean something more to me would place higher in my scale of how much I like them over the GG, though I'm 100% positive I'd be in the minority too, haha.  But I do think there are figures that could easily be argued as superior to the Gammie.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scockery on January 1, 2011, 01:09 PM
Drugs!  Vintage gamorrean a step backwards?! Best likeness of a star wars character in a figure ever period.

I said the hip joints were a step backwards, not the whole figure. The likeness is the best GG ever and worthy of its praise (gushing), but I'd like more functional poseability to go with it. That's why I say he's overrated.

He is growing on me...and I'm pleased there's a popular army builder that's not a clone. Who'd have thought that sandtroopers and clone troopers would be massed on pegs while a green pig man was hard to find? 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on February 2, 2011, 05:54 PM
Wave 3 Case Rev 11 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS97568C11)

If this is how they release Wedge...color me pissed :-X
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 2, 2011, 08:24 PM
Yeah, that wouldn't be too cool. However, I'm sure he'd find his way into other assortments.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 2, 2011, 09:27 PM
At least it'll be another way to give us the ROTJ wave!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on February 2, 2011, 10:19 PM
I think because of certain marketing rules, they had to release him in a ROTJ wave asst.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Diddly on February 2, 2011, 10:32 PM
No need for more Vaders and Sandtroopers to be clogging the pegs. I wish those would be taken out and replaced with more G. Guards.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 03:14 AM
Vaders aren't really pegwarmers here, but I think they could do without a lot of those choices for sure.  Hell, the Klaatu's the only guy I see from the ROTJ wave anymore.  He's it.  One.  He's at K-Mart.  He has his own peg and everything.

The assortment definitely stings though.  Double up on Endor Rebels, Gammies (hell, triple those), 2 Wedge's, 2 Wickets, 2 Duel Lukes, etc.  I'd probably order a case.  :-\
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 3, 2011, 11:40 AM
The ROTJ wave sold through so fast each time it was stocked in my area, I have no issue at all with these figures being restocked... the only stinker is the Clone Trooper in my opinion. Even if they get the helmet painted better and fix the yellowing issue, it's still weird looking.  But other than that, I have no problem at all with this wave coming out again...

As for Wedge, maybe they're thinking that they need to limit his production, like they did with Dak.  I personally am fine with that because I'm burnt out on orange flight suits and up until recently, was still seeing Dak at Target and the Rebel Pilot comic packs at Wal-Mart... and the Evolutions pilots are still collecting dust at TRU, even marked down to $14.98... maybe that's just my area... but wow.  I am a bit burnt out on the color orange.  But for those that are craving Wedge, hope he's not too rare.  But I will get one, or none.  Just not interested.

Regarding Vader, yeah he's not needed at this point but I can't recall the last time I even saw one.  He always sells... and man that Gamorrean really should be packed heavy.  At the very least he needs to be carried forward in more waves in the future.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2011, 02:16 PM
Yeah, the ROTJ wave flew off the pegs here pretty quickly as well, with only an odd Ackbar, Wooof, or Endor Soldier hanging here or there.  For the most part, the stores have been at a stand still with figures lately.  Target's vintage section has been empty and starting to get taken over by CW/Legends, Wal-Mart is jammed full (but most of it is Clones and Sandtroopers), and TRU has basically nothing but a Dengar or 4-LOM that have been hanging there since they first got them.

I'd be happy to see more ROTJ wave out there, as it is such an outstanding wave and I'd always take more Gamorrean Guards if I could find them.  Personally, I hope Wedge is easy to find.  I can understand the lack of enthusiasm for more pilots from some, but to me Wedge is one of the main "supporting" characters of the OT, and we all know how well represented he has been in the lines.  He never even got a vintage figure back in the day, and we're still waiting for a non-exclusive modern one.  I'm glad it worked out that he will appear on a vintage card, and I'll be picking up a couple unless he turns out horrible for some reason.  One of the unsung heroes of the Saga, and I'm glad he's finally getting a regular release.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 3, 2011, 03:24 PM
Yeah, he does deserve to be in the regular lineup... if Dak can make the cut, then Wedge certainly does.  Could even put that Wedge head on a Dak body I guess and give yourself a Hoth version of Wedge...
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 3, 2011, 04:13 PM
Yeah, he does deserve to be in the regular lineup... if Dak can make the cut, then Wedge certainly does.  Could even put that Wedge head on a Dak body I guess and give yourself a Hoth version of Wedge...

Agreed. BTW - The CP Steakhouse Waiter Wedge head fits perfectly on the Snowspeeder body, all you have to do is get an extra helmet.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Morgbug on February 3, 2011, 04:18 PM
Still waiting for the ROTJ wave to show up locally. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: RichardTheBloody on February 3, 2011, 06:01 PM
Still waiting for the ROTJ wave to show up locally. 

I just found it at Polo TRU this morning, so you should check it out. :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 07:35 PM
Except Wedge is rocking the hood...  And I'd say it's only your area with all the Daks, CHEWIE.  Everyone I've talked to anywhere said he was one of the better sellers out of wave 1. ;)  Even K-Mart and TRU sold out of him and they were higher prices.

I see the same 2 Evolution Rebel sets (the last ones that were general release) at TRU.  Of course though, since I could've counted probably 30 of just THAT set at one point at my TRU, I think that's actually pretty good sell-through.  At least here.  I'd probably buy those last two if I wasn't buying other stuff, but 2 are lingering on here.  The only other orange I've seen routinely is Hoth Luke Pilot...  He's around. 

I think Wedge would do just fine doubled up in the case then.

First, he's getting his first basic carded figure, ever.  He's one of the rare background guys to make it into all three films so that's kind of amazing he's getting his first basic carded figure in 2011.  Second though, it's also putting a "Vintage Wedge Card" out there which is up there with a Vintage Fleet Trooper, Tarkin, Han Stormtrooper, etc., that people may buy just for the carded aspect of him.  And then of course he's an army builder to some degree.  He's fairly generic in the most common Rebel pilot uniform (short of the helmet deco) in the films.  It's debatable by a pretty big margin as to how well pilots sell, but Hasbro says they do and have kept putting sets out because of it, and so far I know I've seen nothing to disagree with that.  So I think doubling up on him would be a fine thing since Wedge has been long overdue for a basic carded figure.  I know I'd probably actually keep a carded one of him if he's easy enough to find.

ROTJ wave sold here, so I think the assortment isn't horrible, but floatching chair Yoda and the Clone have to go, so there's two slots.  I'd remove the Sandtrooper too (I like him, but he's around).  That is the first three cards on the list even!  :)

I'd also pull Woof and R2 w/Tray.  I'd also consider pulling Ackbar actually.  Woof, Ackbar, and Bar2 (saw Bar2 the most by far) were the three of Wave 3 that I saw linger at all, despite ROTJ's selling pretty well.  Those three still started to stagnate, and like I said, one Woof is even hanging around for some reason.  Why not squeeze in more of the army builders and such from Wave 3 that really would be nice to have in some more abundance.  I'd triple up on the Gammie, 2 Wedge's, 2 Endor Rebels, 2 Lukes, 1 Vader, 2 Wedge.  I'd probably buy 3 cases right now of that. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scockery on February 3, 2011, 07:55 PM
4 Wedges a case, huh?  ;)

I've never seen R2 from that wave. I may have seen Luke once. I can't remember. I rarely buy Lukes; they always look bad to me. The ROTJ ones that lingered here, barely, were Wooof and the Commando.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 08:07 PM
No, 2, I duplicated that when I was deleting stuff (didn't delete enough and wound up losing count)...  2 Wedge, 3 Gammies, 1 Vader, 2 Endor Commando, 2 Luke...  Fill the last two slots with whatever then.  Ackbar and Bar2?  Woof and Ackbar?  Whatever.

4 of just about anyone will pegwarm.  You could ship 4 Gammorean Guards in the case, and I have a feeling you'd see saturation fast if the case is ordered in any abundance.  As it is, 3 gammies is a risk.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Darby on February 3, 2011, 08:46 PM
I think more ROTJ is what everyone's asking for and will do fine.  I hope Wedge sees further distribution than this, though, since most of us will be interested in mainly him at this point.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 3, 2011, 09:10 PM
And I'd say it's only your area with all the Daks, CHEWIE.  Everyone I've talked to anywhere said he was one of the better sellers out of wave 1. ;)  Even K-Mart and TRU sold out of him and they were higher prices.

Success or lack thereof can definitely be regional as I seem to recall you saying Star Trek was hot in your area, while the rest of the country the entire line seemed to flop and couldn't even get past the first wave.

The Targets in these parts went nuts with Vintage Wave 1, and those assortments all seemed to be the one with Dak in them - for a while it was an army of Daks vs. 4-LOM in the vintage section.  I believe he was only in a revision case in Wave 1, making him essentially a short packed figure which probably helped him sell through at other retailers. And all indications from what I can tell shows it was a fine decision to keep Dak in what appeared to be a lower production, as I don't see requests for people ever looking for him or a high asking price for him on ebay.  I know you're a bigger fan of pilots than I am though, I'm just burnt out after what seems like dozens of them and Hasbro can't even keep the damn plastic orange the same color for uniformity.  I really want to see more of an emphasis on ground troops by Hasbro, and for that reason I'm also a bit biased I admit.  The number of Rebel Pilots we've seen vs. Rebel Troops is staggering.

Back to Wedge though... is it really going to be that head sculpt?  

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WedgePackInLoose2_TN.jpg)

I always thought that face looked a bit cartoony and deterred me from buying the X-Wing with him at Target.  I hope that's not the head we actually get on the figure.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 09:42 PM
I thought they said they were doing a new headsculpt for Wedge and that was partially why he's been so long delayed in the first place...  IIRC.

During the film's release, Star Trek did sell well here...  It stagnated here like everywhere else eventually though and a LOT was in the pipeline it seems because even where they sold out, more fresh cases wound up surfacing.  You could always tell that if you saw Spocks and Uhura's miraculously turn up.  So ultimately my area was the same there eventually.  But during the Summer and into the months leading into Christmas stuff was moving through for that line.  You could always tell because new stuff would turn up after pegs sat empty.  Now, there's still a few of both playsets lingering on at Big Lots here.  Such is life I guess.  I like to hope a 2nd film will have new figures but maybe toned down dramatically.

The Rebel pilots are in abundance because they've got the molds, and no real reason beyond that I think.  I'd like to get what we can, especilaly from the films, while Hasbro's willing to crank them out...  I'm hopeful Rebel ground troops come out in abundance too, but so far Hasbro's not reissuing them like I'd like to see.  Since I've kind of championed Rebel Troopers since going back when it was considered almost blasphemy to a lot of people to even request it, I think it's pretty established I've been anxious for new grunts on the ground.  I'd like to hope that once they're all done, Hasbro maybe re-issues some of them.  Maybe new heads too.  I'd like to see some of them make the Legends assortment.  I'd buy more if they were made available routinely.  I'm pretty ok on anything in white armor right now unless they update the Scout Trooper with hips and a removable helmet or something.  Unfortunately they're not going that route right now, for one reason or another.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: P-Siddy on February 3, 2011, 10:00 PM
I can still find Commandos on pegs around here. I'd say take one of him out and put in a pig-guard.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 10:42 PM
I've not seen a Commando since the wave first hit here.  It varies by the area I guess.  Some guys didn't see Bar2 and we had a TON of him.  The wave sold through almost completely though here too.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Morgbug on February 3, 2011, 11:24 PM
Still waiting for the ROTJ wave to show up locally. 

I just found it at Polo TRU this morning, so you should check it out. :)

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 3, 2011, 11:39 PM
I'd say that in rank of what was hard to find in the ROTJ wave, it went like this in my area:

- Gamorrean Guard
- Wicket
- R2-D2
- Ackbar
- Luke
- Rebel Commando
- Woof

Basically, the Gamorrean and Wicket were so hard to find that it was almost ridiculous.  I don't see how anyone who didn't go on toy runs very consistently ever even saw them in my area.  R2-D2 was also rare... you can find an occasional Ackbar at some Wal-Marts, and a handful of Luke, Rebel Commandos and Woofs... but by no means would I say those are easy to find either.  That whole was was just amazing and I think it's great they are going to do a revision case... I just hope that they find a way to get the Gamorrean and Wicket into more case assortments later on in the line, and perhaps Ackbar too because he's such an amazing figure.

As for Rebel Troops Jesse, I really hope we see Hasbro give them more attention... the upcoming Fleet Trooper looks so good, I would really be disappointed if we don't see them not only in abundance, but also with other head sculpts before too long.  We've seen a somewhat decent approach to this with the Hoth Rebel, so many they'll do the same for this guy.  And a Legends repack would be awesome for 2012... and heck, I'd be all for them putting a couple of them in a new version of the Tantive IV Battle Pack with two good Stormies too.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 11:46 PM
The only thing in the way of that is that the Hoth Trooper's head/hat were tooled.  When we'd posted the test shots of them way back they were all tooled up and hasbro just canned the running variants.  :(  It sucked hard then, and still does.

So I don't see Hasbro giving us that kind of treatment with a head variant...  At least not right now.  Maybe they'll warm up to it on unmasked army builders though because they really could pull in extra.  Again I'd love to see Legends get Endor, Hoth, and Fleet Rebels with different heads...

though the Endor Rebel has a lot of costume variation they can run with.  Vests, camo coats...  I'd like to see those too, but then again I'd like seeing them retool the neck first if they're going to update the figure at all for some variety. 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Paul on February 4, 2011, 08:17 AM
Plus all the Goatee variations they can do.
Brown
Light brown
Sandy brown
Auburn
Dark brown

That's 5 right there.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Keonobi on February 4, 2011, 10:01 AM
I was at WM last night and the pegs were packed (with massive helmet clones and Woof).  Of the 60 TVC figures they had on the pegs 20 were Woof, about 15 were the ROTS clone, they had about 15 Sandtroopers, 5 Anakins and then a handful of Ackbar and Endor Rebels.

IIRC wasn't Woof packed at the same ratio as the Gamorrean Guard?  (Who I saw exactly once and didn't buy  :'(  )  I know Hasbro sends stuff out in fixed case ratios, but why, oh why, did they use the same ratio for those two?  I guess Hasbro could claim they didn't know how well the Gammy was going to sell, but Wicket was also at the same ratio and Hasbro knows that Ewoks (in most instances) sell pretty well.  I can't imagine that they thought Woof was going to be as popular.

Still, Woof was just striking to me because of it being a fairly obscure character (compared to the Clone and Sandtrooper) and being very well represented on the pegs, but even if Hasbro had packed that figure more lightly, there would still be white armored troopers just sitting in the store.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2011, 10:38 AM
I think it's a given that they need to get that Gamorrean back on the pegs... Wicket too.  I'd think that they could pack the Gamorrean at one per case in each assortment in 2011, and he'd still be moving great.  The figure is simply that good.

As for the Fleet Trooper, I am hoping that Hasbro finds some sort of way to get that figure readily available.  Because I can see it being as hot as the Gamorrean Guard... if tunghori gets the Fleet Trooper in, I'm going to probably buy a dozen just to guarantee I have at least a decent size group of them.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 4, 2011, 01:10 PM
I only saw this wave in whole (excluding the Gam.Guard) at Target once, the rest of the time Klaatu was leftover. Even R2 was hard to find. Maybe releasing Wedge in an entire ROTJ case is a ploy by Hasbro to get this wave out there again.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on February 4, 2011, 01:21 PM
It's really funny.  Collectors clamored to get Wooof made in the modern line, and when we saw that the figure was coming out there was genuine excitement.  And the figure really has not disappointed.  

But then what happens?  Wooof quickly became the biggest pegwarmer of the ROTJ wave.  The irony is staggering.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on February 4, 2011, 01:46 PM
In my neck of the woods, it's Ackbar and Rebel Commando that hold pegwarming bragging rights from the ROTJ wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2011, 02:41 PM
I wouldn't call Wooof a pegwarmer, at least not in my area.  He's just not very scarce... I mean, if I went on a massive toy run this weekend, I could probably find perhaps a dozen of him across 20 stores (compared to hundreds of Phase 2 Bucket Helmet Clones). 

And in the St. Louis region, nothing in this wave constitutes pegwarming status of what we saw from some of the Wave One and Wave Two figures.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: speedermike on February 4, 2011, 02:42 PM
It's really funny.  Collectors clamored to get Wooof made in the modern line, and when we saw that the figure was coming out there was genuine excitement.  And the figure really has not disappointed.  

But then what happens?  Wooof quickly became the biggest pegwarmer of the ROTJ wave.  The irony is staggering.

Yeah.  That's something I don't get.  If you collect SW, you must have this figure.  It's one of Hasbro's best.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 4, 2011, 03:07 PM
I have like 0 ROTJ figs period at my Walmarts, Targets and TRUs.  Actually, nothing but Sandtroopers and EII clones with the yellowing helmets.

At lunch today I did find AOTC wave at Target for $8.99 each.  I didn't buy as many as I would have if they were cheaper, I just don't like the idea of $9 basic figures.  Got a few though that I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2011, 03:24 PM
Regarding Woof, I bought 3 or 4.  I did my part... but is he really pegwarming that badly?  Most of us could probably go on a toy run and find a few, but is that a bad thing?  Do we want him to be long gone already like the Gamorreans?  And it is a nice figure, though the skin tone is a bit more of a lime green than I'd like. 

Also that's great you found the AOTC wave at Target Dressel... I had only heard of them hitting at Wal-Mart so far.  Guess it's time to start looking at Target again, despite their price hike.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 4, 2011, 03:53 PM

Also that's great you found the AOTC wave at Target Dressel... I had only heard of them hitting at Wal-Mart so far.  Guess it's time to start looking at Target again, despite their price hike.

I was in there looking for Marvel Universe and the new Wave 4 G.I. JOE, negged on both, but then saw the $9 AOTC figs.  "Dammit.  Okay you got me."
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 4, 2011, 04:58 PM
Keonobi said he saw 20 Woof's...  I'd call that a pegwarmer, at least for him and where he lives.  I'm more in Dressel's position where nothing from ROTJ pegwarmed really, but the first figures to back up for me went sorta like this:

-Bar2
-Woof
-Ackbar (kind of the same as Woof)
-Wicket
-Endor Rebel (Wicket and Endor Rebel were pretty equal)
-Luke
-Gammie Guard

Now that was when they were hitting in some quantity.  Ironically Woof is the only one I see now.  One here, one there...  I don't see any other figure from the wave, ever.  It sucks because I probably would've picked up 40 Endor Rebels, and 20 Gammies all told.  I have absolutely nothing near that.  I figure if they're getting more of both into circulation due to demand, I'll get to them.

I maintain though, you pack the Gammorean too heavily, and he too will pegwarm.  That's just how the hobby goes.  People can deny that and say there's no way he will because he's such an awesome figure, but it's always been that way no matter how good a figure is.  Eventually every character can hit a saturation point.  I think there's just not been enough ROTJ wave out to really know who's going to do that poorly and who isn't, though Keonobi's experience has to make me think Woof's probably the top contender to perhaps cut out of some future reshipments.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2011, 05:17 PM
I'd cut Woof out too, from future assortments if they're going to get these figures out in more circulation because as nice as he is, he is probably the slowest seller of the group. 

And every figure does have a saturation point for sure... as for Endor Rebels, you can still find one here or there in my area, but it's not easy.  If/when they get that one back out again, I hope they give him a new head (and a new neck too, like you suggested, but I think that's unlikely compared to the head). 
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Keonobi on February 4, 2011, 05:23 PM
Regarding Woof, I bought 3 or 4.  I did my part... but is he really pegwarming that badly?  Most of us could probably go on a toy run and find a few, but is that a bad thing?

True.  And I'll be the first to admit that my experience is VERY anecdotal.  I haven't done a lot of shopping lately, so aside from this WM I think I've only been in one or two other stores that carry toys since Christmas.  So it could very well be that the people of Glenville NY that shop at Walmart just don't like skinny green spikey faced guys.  So my comments earlier may have been a bit strong in regards to the case ratios, and Wooof could be fine figure, but I don't think anyone thinks he's the equal of the Gammie in terms of quality or the demand for the figure.

But in my experience the figure is pegwarming and even if Walmart were to accidentaly do one of their localized fat-finger sales (I'm thinking the ones were through a glitch all SW figures get repriced to $4.00 for a week) the Sandies, and probably the clones, would clear out a lot faster than Wooof.

Basically if Hasbro really does have an A, B, C, etc. system for figuring out waves I think the Wooof is further down on that scale and I wish the cases that had come to the Glenville WM had been packed to reflect that.  Also Hasbro should've checked with me first.    ;D
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 4, 2011, 08:13 PM
I don't think the head change is likely either but it'd be nice.  Something much more generic...  and with hair.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2011, 04:31 AM
So I was pissing around with some Endor Rebels tonight, kind of tallying up the troops as it were (I have a friend who the soldier's headsculpt is identical to, to the point it's creepy).  Anyway, I tried some of the Saga vests on him...  It's amazing how you can actually slip the vest on without taking the figure apart even.

While pictures looked ok, they didn't quite impress me in person...  the vest basically still negates the arm articaultion (I thought the sturdier design and better poseability of the new sculpt would make the vest more useful...  I was wrong).  Also the vest flares out a bit, it was to accomodate pockets and things on the Saga figure, but it's awkward on the new figure...

I think elements of the Saga figure combined with the new one could be cool, but ultimately I don't like how the vest swaps.  I hope Hasbro does something to make poseable guys in the vests...  A softgoods vest would be my favored route honestly.  It's cool and the most common outfit, so I hope they try something.

Anyway though, still love the figure, goofy neck and all...  It's customizable for sure.  I'd like to see updates to the other Endor outfits, with this as a base at least.  Hopefully Hasbro doesn't abandon them because that Vintage figure could sure use an update, and I'd not turn down the POTF2 trooper getting updated either...  They're pretty close to each other but the original 1980's figure was based on one specific guy that enters the bunker with Han, so I'd like to see him updated despite the specificness of him.  I'm not holding my breath though.

And Nik Sant would make an awesome vested guy update.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: darth broem 2 on February 27, 2011, 02:49 PM
Nik Sant is the only Rebel Commando I'd really want honestly.  However, I'd go for a few variants if they come our way.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on February 27, 2011, 04:57 PM
(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/HS97568Flg.jpg?Lo0P=b2ff5c359563fa5db8528664566a203a84383)

Does the Rebel now have hair?  Or are my eyes playing tricks
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2011, 05:05 PM
It looks like a different deco. Even the helmet is packaged separately.


Edit: I think is just a mockup image. In fact it was shown (http://yakfaceforums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=20&pid=893#top_display_media) that way at CV, but obviously it changed upon release.

I think the "hairline" we see in the photo above is actually the bubble tray insert.

(http://yakfaceforums.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/commando_card.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: 501ST on February 27, 2011, 06:51 PM


Does the Rebel now have hair?  Or are my eyes playing tricks

I though the exact same thing when I saw this image (tried to zoom in but no cigar)
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Scott on February 27, 2011, 08:09 PM
Yeah, you're right Jayson...thanks!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2011, 02:00 AM
Boy I wish he had some hair, haha...  My buddy I grew up with looks just like that guy and it creeps me out.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on March 12, 2011, 03:45 AM
Pleasantly surprised to see that this wave is still shipping.  I found 3 sealed cases of the ROTJ wave tonight.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 12, 2011, 09:27 AM
Pleasantly surprised to see that this wave is still shipping.  I found 3 sealed cases of the ROTJ wave tonight.

Was it one of the older case packs or was it the new one with Wedge in the mix?

I'm really hoping that Wedge ships in at least one of the mixed-movie waves (we know it can't be Wave 7 since that case has been revealed) - he is at the top of my list of OT characters that I finally want to get on a Vintage-style card.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Nicklab on March 12, 2011, 10:36 AM
No Wedge's in the cases I found.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on March 15, 2011, 05:05 PM
Other than one instance at a Target about a month ago, I haven't seen any signs of this wave being stocked since mid December.

But, I did score a Gamorrean Guard at a collector show over the weekend for $10.00 - shocking!
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 15, 2011, 07:12 PM
My Walmarts have been putting this wave out the last couple weeks.  I found a Gamorrean Guard on 2 occasions a week apart.  That figure is worth $10.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on March 15, 2011, 07:20 PM
Wave 3 came and went here really fast, so more of it would be welcome...  It's a shame when it first showed up it was $7.99 and now, not so nice.  I'll keep my eyes peeled though for more when I'm out though.

Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Brian on March 16, 2011, 12:13 PM
Yeah, this wave really came and went quickly here as well - more so than any other recent wave really.  Hopefully we'll see more of them again, or they are incorporated into Legends or something.  So many nice, "ultimate" versions of characters here between the Gam. Guard, Wicket, Ackbar, Luke, etc.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 19, 2011, 03:34 AM
I'm surprised to see Endor Rebel making a return - yet no sign of any other of the ROTJ figures. Even Wooof is gone, and he was one of the lingering figures.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on March 19, 2011, 05:20 PM
I'm surprised to see Endor Rebel making a return - yet no sign of any other of the ROTJ figures. Even Wooof is gone, and he was one of the lingering figures.

He's repacked in Wave 6 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS97568F).  You probably saw him as a remnant of that wave.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 19, 2011, 06:36 PM
Really? Hmm, that's interesting, I hope that's the case here. The only thing, though, is that the shelves haven't been restocked for like a month in my area... hopefully Wave 6 will start to trickle in, but I'm hoping I'll see some of Wave 4 first. I could really care less if I miss that horrid Wave 5.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on March 19, 2011, 07:21 PM
Well, I've seen remnants of Wave 6 a couple times now.  At different TRU stores, no sign of new figures in a while, then all of a sudden each store had one Endor Rebel, one Obi Wan, one orange Clone, and one R2-D2.  All four of those are carry forward figures in Wave 6. 

Funny, because it's been a week later and the Obi Wan and the orange clone are still at both stores as of this morning.  God, that clone sucks.  I hate every aspect of that figure, and something tells me if they had just repacked the 2006 version both would have sold right off the bat, or if they had used the new mold they're using for the AOTC body, with a nice helmet, they would have sold fine.

This (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TVC/basicfigures/VC15/head3.html) is easily my most hated sculpt of the past decade, on anything.  There are other figures that suck, but this mold seems to be the bane of the entire vintage line and one of the worst pegwarmers I've ever seen.  Everywhere you go, you see that damn mold (usually all white version, of course with the green helmet)... it makes Yarna seem like a rare find.  If they had just put the investment toward a better figure, it wouldn't be a problem... if they had made it look like my proposal below, I don't think this figure would have been a pegwarmer at all.

(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/Chewie/032011clonecompare2.jpg)



Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Greg on March 20, 2011, 12:48 AM
Good news Chewie... (http://www.banthaskull.com/images/news/feb2011/tf02.jpg)

There will be an Ep. III clone with the new body this year. I'm sure the helmet will look good on the final figure, judging by what we've seen with the Ep. II clone and Commander notFordobutcomeonreallyweknowitisFordo. I'm sure ALL of the clone repaints won't be too far off. Quite frankly, I welcome them with this new body sculpt.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2011, 02:53 AM
Yeah it's sorta funny they did the 212th on the old body and now this guy will have the new body...  Seriously though, is everyone going to replace armies they've amassed with the new sculpt?  I doubt many do.  I mean, it's all about the price at that point.  I can't justify more army building at a point when the line's too expensive as it is.  If anything I've cut my army building down to a stand-still really.  *shrugs*

I probably would've picked up 20 501st Troopers using the new tooling a couple years ago...  Not now.  I'm into the one I'll get in a case I order and call it a day again.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2011, 10:49 AM
Yeah, I know the 501st is coming out with that body, but I'm not convinced on the helmet looking right (though it's a lot better)...

I wish that Hasbro would send reps out to gather those clones that are pegwarming, wash those helmets so they are white, and then distribute them to kids for Christmas... and that Wave 7 repack, pull it from the assortment and replace with a Gamorrean or Magna Guard.

Then, bring us a NEW Phase 2 clone using the body, and a good helmet.  Doesn't need to be removable.

As for replacing my armies with the new sculpt?  I think, if the figures look like a step forward, I'm willing to.  But it won't be having 20 of each squad, or anything like that.  I'd buy about 5-6 of each Phase 2 clone color scheme if they looked right, but about a dozen all white ones.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2011, 03:22 PM
I'm opting to keep voting the price-hikes down...  Improvements are improvements and all, but at this stage of the game I'd rather just tell Hasbro to piss off with at least 50% of my business.  I've probably got 40 501st Troopers using previous sculpts I'm going to keep.

Same on the 212th and others...  The price-hikes have killed my interest in "updates" unless they're one-off characters I think.  Even then...  it's a tough pill to swallow, ever, if it's only minor.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2011, 05:56 PM
I can't fault you at all for that Jesse.

What I'm doing is saving some of each army builder I replace and putting them in a box - that way if my son ends up liking this stuff, he's got an instant army.  I did that with GI JOE, which is cool because at least 50% of what he has, I already had boxed up from 2007-2009 and gave to him.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: Keonobi on May 12, 2011, 03:14 PM
I was at WM last night and the pegs were packed (with massive helmet clones and Woof).  Of the 60 TVC figures they had on the pegs 20 were Woof, about 15 were the ROTS clone, they had about 15 Sandtroopers, 5 Anakins and then a handful of Ackbar and Endor Rebels.


So I was in the same Walmart I mentioned in the above post from March, and they had 19 Woof, so apparently it'll only take another 40ish months for them to work through this backlog of Woofs :)  I know its just a freak thing about this store (or someone bought up Woof/Clonetroopers/Sandtroopers and dumped them all at Walmart), but its funny to see this particular backlog.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 4, 2011, 11:49 AM
I went to K-Mart in NYC (one of the few places that has SW figures in the city) and their pegs were cleared out, with a tag stating they were "out of stock." Hell, even Forbidden Planet didn't have anything new past the Legacy collection. Distribution is crappy right now, it seems.

I'd like to support brick & mortar stores, but they make it difficult. I ordered wave 7 online.
Title: Re: 2010 "Vintage" Collection Wave 3 - ROTJ
Post by: 77Skywalker on December 6, 2014, 11:34 PM
The figure that I was just so really excited for in this entire toy wave was truly Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker.  I especially liked there was a place he could hang his lightsaber.