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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Greivous' Cough?
« on: May 23, 2005, 11:22 PM »
According to the newest issue of Entertainment Weekly, Grievous's cough is a precursor to Vader.  Half-man, half-machine (even though Grievous certainly doesn't appear to be human), the trouble breathing, the mechanical legs and arms, the sinister mask, it all adds up.  Rob Coleman is quoted as saying, "He's like the Alpha version of Vader."

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Anakin's Immaculate Conception, Not So Holy?
« on: May 23, 2005, 11:14 PM »
Personally, I think Lucas left it ambiguous on purpose (This is mentioned in this weeks Entertainment Weekly by the way; check it out). I am hoping that, even though it's weird, Sidious took what Plagus (sp?) taught him, killed Plagus, and created Anakin. As ridiculous as that seems, it is much better than an Immaculate conception!   

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: So how many times have you seen it?
« on: May 23, 2005, 11:08 PM »
I've seen it twice, and my third viewing will be Friday night.  I'm almost hessitant to go too much in a short amount of time, as I don't want the "Wow!" factor to disapear.   :-\

Isn't it coming out on IMAX too?

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 10:58 PM »
Quote from: Chris on May 23, 2005, 10:37 PM
Seeing it my second and third time did it for me. Much, much better of a film. I think I was expecting too much. I am able to sit down and enjoy it, that is for sure. What really got me the first time is there were so many things I personally wanted to see and they just didn't happen. I needed to appreciate this as a SW movie and not what I wanted out of it, that just isn't realistic.

I know what you guys are saying.  I went into it thinking that it should be better than the first two, and thank goodness, it was.  I think that allowed me to really enjoy the film on my first viewing.  If anything, I was somewhat disturbed and saddened.  A lot of depressing (yet neccessary) things occur.   I avoided all spoilers, and had no idea what it would reveal, and what it wouldn't.

It would have been nice to see Dagobah, but I mainly wanted to see Vader ignite his red Lightsaber!

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 04:23 PM »
Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on May 23, 2005, 12:55 PM
I get that RS sensation where anyone who isn't raving about ROTS is dealt with as an outcast. ::)

Yikes!  Don't feel that way bud!  I sure didn't mean to imply that, so my apologies if that's how it came out.  We all love Star wars and are just sharing our oppinions.  Yours is just as valid as any of ours!   :)

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 04:21 PM »
Quote from: DoctorPadawan on May 23, 2005, 01:00 PM
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What became of the Sypho Dias mystery- ah, nothing?
This was "settled" in James Luceno's "Labyrinth of Evil" by the way.  Despite my intense hatred for the endless superweapons, Dawson's Creek Jedi, and invincible alien races who grow their ships, the book was pretty good, and I'm very curious to see how Luceno does with the rumored Rise of Vader book he's doing late next year.

Wow!  Nicely put Doctor Padawan!  I couldn't agee more.  I will never give any money to a series that kills Chewbacca, and the Dawson's Creek Jedi comment...classic!

I was debating reading Labrinth of Evil, and am very glad for the explanation of Dias.  I think I'll check it out.   ;D

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 10:35 AM »
Quote from: Darth Broem on May 23, 2005, 07:59 AM
What Lucas should have had Padme do was to grab baby Leia and put her hand on her head.  Then spread her index and middle finger apart from her ring finger and pinkie and say "Remember!" just like Spock did to Dr. McCoy (is that his name?) during the end of the Wrath of Kahn. 

Everyone would have been satisfied with that :)

Ha!  Nice one Brian!  You goof!  :)

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 10:34 AM »
Quote from: Jesse James on May 23, 2005, 12:53 AM
The classic trilogy had me wanting more...  AOTC only had me wanting more about the war, maybe a tie-in space battle (Such a missing aspect of these 3 films), but ROTS I could've sat through another hour of just MORE.  :)  After 3 screenings I'm set for a 4th with anticipation.  Just hearing my buddies walk out with me tonight (Casual fans, but not die-hards who have to be at premieres or collect anything) and they're raving about the movie...  That felt great.  Guys that usually were critical of the films were now asking me questions, and actually discussing stuff with me without making fun of SW in its current state.  That rocked.

Jesse, your post was so rich with good points, that I just have to piggy back on it some more!    ;D  Great points about wanting more.  I actually (for the first time in the history of Lucas fandom!) am looking forward to deleted scenes!  God help me, what have I become?   ;)  How cool that people actually wanted to talk about Star Wars instead of making fun of it!  I had a simillar experience with some members of my family.  Instead of complaining about the acting, or how much it wasn't like the originals, they talked about how cool the movie was, and we went out to eat and talked about Star Wars in a positive way!  It was great!

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 10:26 AM »
Quote from: Jesse James on May 23, 2005, 12:53 AM
I actually agree with Jedidz23's opinion on how Leia can remember her mother though it seems impossible...  I view it as a force thing mostly.  Potentially a difference in the way the two children are raised, or things they're told during childhood, form the visions they have through the force...

Totally.  How they focus affects what the Force "broadcasts" to them.

Quote from: Jesse James on May 23, 2005, 12:53 AM
But to me the explanation that first came to my mind (and which I offered my buddy tonight who surprisingly cited the Leia flaw right away, he impressed me being a more casual fan :) ) was that Leia's having sort of "dreams" she perceives as reality/memory of her mother... I don't take that as grasping at straws since my mind didn't even stretch to come up with an excuse, but rather that came right to me when my buddy asked about that. Why Luke doesn't have a memory... I suppose anything from the focus of his thoughts to the focus of his life in general could've had an effect on that. Luke only asks about their mother after he's seemingly had some time to reflect on who he was told his father was... Maybe Luke's lack of thought towards his family (since his Uncle had put something else in his mind) made him lose memory of her? Lose the connection that Leia perhaps retains because maybe Bail/wife raised her with more talk of Padme... Who knows.

I like this as well.  Good to know there are some people out there who will give star Wars credit, instead of instantly ridiculing.  It is far easier to criticize than it is to compliment.

Quote from: Jesse James on May 23, 2005, 12:53 AM
It's one of those loose-ends I'm sorta sad that the movie didn't tie off... That, the Qui-Gon thing, etc... There definitely was room for another hour's worth of footage. I feel that way about very little around the prequals. ROTS really won me.

Both of those things would have been nice to be tied up, but I kind of liked that they weren't.  Similar to the gaps in time between Episodes IV and V, and V and VI, respectively.  We never saw the Rebels move to Hoth, we never saw the confrontation with the bounty hunter on Ord Mandell, and we never saw how Vader discovered that a farm boy by the name of Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star.  In the same fashion, we never saw Lando infiltrate Jabba's palace, never saw Luke build his Lightsaber or continue with his training, and never witnessed how Leia got her Boush disguise.  Heck, how did they track down Jabba at all?  This is where the genius of Lucas as a storyteller is revealed; he lets the audience fill in some of the gaps with their imagination.  What a refreshing twist in our spoon-fed society!

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 10:17 AM »
Quote from: speedermike on May 22, 2005, 09:32 PM
"None if this is possible."   Your post was well said Jedidz23.   I am sick and tired of fans who think that they can decide which elements of fantasy are acceptable, and which aren't.

It is so insane to "believe" in the Force, yet not "believe" that in infant (in a fictional reality) can have a memory.  I'm all for talking about weak elements in the movies, and in the prequels there are many, but I have always accepted Lucas' word as gospel.  If he says that Leia remembers her mother, than she does.

Who knows, maybe the people who find these  flaws are the same people who consider the books, games, and comics to be more interesting than the movies.

I know what you mean, speedermike!  Thanks for the props, by the way.  :)

Some people can find fault in anything.  They are not going to be happy unless it's their way.  Oh well; don't let it affect your enjoyment of the film.  It is such a powerful movie!

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 22, 2005, 04:24 PM »
Quote from: Herbert_Ackermans on May 22, 2005, 11:50 AM
It is so over the top, those Clonetroopers blasting away, just to make sure she's dead.

I thought that was just to show brutality and an absolute lack of respect for the Jedi, as well as for life.

You should never laugh when someone that hot goes away dude.   ;)

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 22, 2005, 04:23 PM »
Quote from: Bob Crane on May 22, 2005, 12:03 PM
What became of the Sypho Dias mystery- ah, nothing?

I would sure like to know this as well.  Maybe it was Dooku using Dias's name as an alias.  That's what I always assumed.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 22, 2005, 04:18 PM »
Quote from: speedermike on May 22, 2005, 04:00 PM
"No, Leia remembering her real mother is just plain impossible."

So are Light Sabers.

Exactly.  None if this is possible.  However, it is a powerful narrative, and part of the beauty of the narrative is that while much of the informtaion is there on screen, some of it is left to the imagination of the audience.  That is much more effective to me.  I think Lucas has done a pretty good job of wrapping everything up nicely. 

I think it absolutely makes sense, as far as Leia being strong in the Force, but having no idea whatsoever as to how to harness her power.  Maybe the script in Empire doesn't have Luke or Leia knowing that they are siblings, but that doesn't mean she couldn't be more receptive to Luke sending her Force telpathic signals (as fas as where to go and pick him up) than someone else.  The intensity of emotion during the birth of the twins, and having Obi-Wan and Yoda present may have increased Force energy, and allowed Leia to get a sense of her mother.

Is this a stetch?  Absolutely it is, but so are talking robots, laser swords, Jedi Knigts with super powers, and casting terrible child actors to play a youthful Vader (Episode I).  I think Lucas may have been off on a lot of things concerning the first two prequels, but I think he nailed it with Revenge of the Sith.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: New JD Poll: Where does ROTS rank now?!
« on: May 22, 2005, 01:23 AM »
1) Empire (Duh! ;))
1 A) ANH-the first, the original, it changed our lives; come on, what else is there to say?   :)
3) Jedi- Especially after watching it a few weeks ago, the end sequence is so much more powerful after seeing Vader's fall to the Dark Side.
4) Episode III -Really, this film is in a class all by itself.  Finally a prequel truly worthy of the name Star Wars!  More drama, intensity, and epic feel than I ever dreamed a Star Wars film could provide.  Check out my review if you get a chance:
http://blogs.starwars.com/Jedidz23StarWarsBlog/5
5) Episode II-All of the reasons Darth Broem gave work for me as well, except I wasn't all that impressed with the big arena scene at the end.  The beasts were a bit lame to me, and I thought the Boga looked poor, plus I was waiting for years for a giant Jedi duel, and all they did was take batting practice with some laser bolts.  Kind of lame, but we did get Aayla to look at.   :P  Also, Count Dooku is a great character; how can you not love Christopher Lee?!
6) Episode I-The Phantom Casting Director, I mean Menace.  Again, I have to give the nod to Brian for my reasons as well.  I always hated that Anakin wasn't more sad for leaving his mother.  That was a collosal waste of a dramatic moment.  However, Qui-Gon is one of the best characters in any of the six films, and of course, the final lightsaber duel.  I did like Episodes I and II very much, but they do pale in comparison to the other four.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 22, 2005, 01:00 AM »
Quote from: Darth Broem on May 21, 2005, 03:11 PM
I did not even notice Padme's belly at the end.  My friend thought it was also an attempt to make it look like she was still pregnant.  So everyone would think her twins died with her as well.  Kind of cool if that was the intent. 

Not just any friend either...it was me!   ;)

I loved the film.  Check out my review if you get a chance.
http://blogs.starwars.com/Jedidz23StarWarsBlog/5


As far as Leia remembering her mother, she just remembers images of her.  If you recall, in ESB, she knows at the end to go back to Bespin to pick up Luke off of the Cloud City weather vane, and at the end of Jedi, she has a feeling that Luke wasn't on the Death Star when it blew up.  Essentially, she is strong in the Force, but doesn't have it honed by any means.   She probably got a sense of her birth mother in this way as well.   I suppse the same is true of Luke when he first gets to Degobah, he says there is something familliar about "this place."  He is probably just sensing Yoda, since Yoda was present for the birth.

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