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Title: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2008, 08:53 PM
As mentioned at Toy Fair, you can now consider this line fully confirmed... from Hasbro:

** There will indeed be a third basic figure line this Fall, once again called "Saga Legends". Unlike previous Saga Legends, this one is kid-focused around the animation and will consist of hero characters who are prominent in the animation, but who will not have an animated version for their character right away or who we are looking to get out there in greater numbers to take advantage of the excitement that the movie and TV show will generate. The lineup consists of figures you might expect: Anakin, Obi-Wan, R2-D2, Yoda with Kybuck, C-3PO, numerous Clones and droids, and others.

All of the figures will be existing. It's too early to say whether the line will continue longer than through Spring. Because this line was created to complement the animated line, and be particularly kid-focused, we aren't planning on doing any particular fan-request figures in this line like we have done with past Saga Legends.


Everyone excited to see more repacks on the pegs this Christmas?   :P
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2008, 08:59 PM
Sweet, I can't wait for this.  I was just thinking today...  I'm sick of seeing wave 1 and 2, 2008, because it's keeping all those Legends figures off the pegs.  I can sleep easy tonight.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: CHEWIE on March 21, 2008, 12:24 AM
The good news is they're movie style at least. 

I understand them wanting to have movie styled versions of these characters on the pegs though, so I guess this shouldn't come as much of a surprise.  And it's always good to have army builders readily available.

Also, the Legends figures have sold damn well this year it seems.  I can't count the number of times I've seen my Walmart and TRU restock with them to the max, and then a few days later half of them already be gone.  These are an easy money maker for Hasbro.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 21, 2008, 09:16 AM
As long as they sell well, they can re-pack what they want. I don't have to buy them.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 21, 2008, 10:15 AM
I think this is kind of where many of us thought this was going, and I guess I can understand it.  Like we've all said before, I don't mind as long as we don't see pegs clogged with these new "Legends" and we can't find things like the Legacy waves because of it.  Sure, seperate SKUs and all that, but we all know how that goes :).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 21, 2008, 07:33 PM
Sure, seperate SKUs and all that, but we all know how that goes :).

I think they were pushing their luck with 2 different SKUs, but 3?  That's definitely going to cause stocking issues, no doubt in my mind. 

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rob on March 22, 2008, 12:25 AM
The good news is they're movie style at least. 

I'm on pace to spend less this year than I have in any of the last 6 - and it's getting easier and easier with all the animated things and repacks.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 23, 2008, 01:17 PM
I think they were pushing their luck with 2 different SKUs, but 3?  That's definitely going to cause stocking issues, no doubt in my mind. 

Well, they did it before in 1998 and 1999 with POTF2 and Episode I, and it was a smashing success (sarcasm HEAVILY implied there), what with the multiple full waves shipping all at once across the different cases, the mass clearance blowouts (remember the 2 dollar off stickers on all the figure cards at the end of 1998?), and the massive gluts of some assortments with nothing from others. 

Note to Hasbro:  No matter if they're a different SKU or not, no matter if you call them "Saga Legends" or "30th Anniversary Collection" or "Saga Collection" or "Heroes and Villains" or "Greatest Battles" or any of the other multiple names for these assortments, the only thing retailers see is STAR WARS.  In the eyes of retail, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE between Saga Legends and 30th Anniversary figures, and I would go so far as to say that the same will hold true with the Clone Wars and Legacy Collection lines.  As long as Star Wars is on the pegs, they couldn't care less what SKU/DCPI/Collection it is.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth Broem on March 23, 2008, 01:59 PM
I actually like the Legends stuff.  It gave me a chance to get some stuff that I missed or plain passed on.   I am hoping they re-release the Snowtrooper.  I only got one of those from the vintage line.  Same with the Biker Scouts in Legends.  I was able to get quite a few of them from Legends that I was not able to from vintage.  Plus, at a slightly cheaper price. 

I just hope they do not go nuts and re-release 30 figures in Legends form.  Just a couple waves would do I think. 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 24, 2008, 09:24 AM
Well said DocPadawan. It's a classic quixotic notion.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 24, 2008, 03:28 PM
I liked LEgends this past year too...

I bought AOTC Clones, ROTS Clones, Sandtroopers galore (still want more white clean ones), Imp. Officers, Darktroopers, and all that crappola.  I think I could do with more re-releases too of certain figures (some of the upcoming O66 Clones, or maybe some of the Republic Commando figures they've done now like the white ones).  I'm actually likely to pick up some of the upcoming Clones too like the shadow and covert clones.

The new Legends line though, sounds pretty dull and aimed at kids instead with main characters I neither want, nor need more of.  I'm guessing these'll be $8 a pop too, and no droid part...  That alone's probably reason enough to avoid them.

If they'd included droid parts, randomized, for solid color astromechs...  I'd almost consider it I think, or at least try to get enough army builders to build the droids.  Otherwise this one sounds like it'll be an easy enough line to avoid.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 24, 2008, 03:45 PM
I kind of enjoyed the last batch of Legends as well, just because it was pretty easy to pick up more of the SA AOTC Clone(s), which I only had one of previously - as well as things like the Biker Scouts (for less than $10 a pop), shocktroopers, and things like that.

It will be interesting to see what type of figures they put in this new figure line.  Like we've talked about before, aside from "all new" characters, we've got a lot of the lineup from the upcoming Clone Wars series in "realistic" style already - so they could get a pretty good lineup together.  Thinking along the lines of the Evolutions Anakins, Comic Pack/ROTS Pilot Obi-Wan, Yoda w/Kybuck, clones (plus commanders like Cody/Gree/Bacara/etc. if necessary), ARCs, Jedi, Padme, R2, 3PO, Battle Droids/SBD/DD, and others.  I'll likely be passing on most to all of these, and like its been mentioned, I just hope these aren't clogging the pegs and keeping Legacy (or Clone Wars) stuff off the pegs.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 24, 2008, 05:50 PM
Legends costing the same as new figures in the other line is definitely a hard pill to swallow.  I also am not sure I like the sound of main characters being in this new line.  If I could choose, though, I'd like them to offer a few versions like VOTC: Luke, Leia, Han, C-3PO (I was one of the few that liked this non-articulated version), Yoda, and Chewie.  I'd also like another shot at Dagobah Luke with interchangeable arms/head, EB Chewie, and maybe even another R2 if they mix some of the better parts.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 24, 2008, 06:20 PM
Ok - so like I just posted about this in the Clone Wars board...

I think this is PURE CRAP.

They state in their answer:

Quote
Unlike previous Saga Legends, this one is kid-focused around the animation and will consist of hero characters who are prominent in the animation, but who will not have an animated version for their character right away or who we are looking to get out there in greater numbers to take advantage of the excitement that the movie and TV show will generate.

So which is it Hasbro? You make the Clone Wars line animation styled so a kid will see a tie between the animation and the toy, but then you're going to re-release figures that were done in the "realistic" style to get out characters that haven't been done for the animated line?!?!?!

If the Animated Line had been done in a realistic style to begin with - YOU COULD HAVE RE-RELEASED THOSE SAME FIGURES AS PART OF THE CLONE WARS LINE!!!!

Also - they state in their answer that they will include Anakin, Obi-Wan, R2-D2 & Yoda - excuse me, but I have no doubt that those four figures will be happily warming the pegs from July on. Is this so the realistic versions can fight the animated versions for peg superiority?

The folks running the Star Wars line have hit an all-time high of stupidity with this move. Why not just come out and admit that you've boxed yourselfs into a corner by making the Clone Wars toy line incompatible with the library of parts you've built over the past 13 years of making Star Wars figures?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Phrubruh on March 25, 2008, 11:03 AM
Maybe its time to start hiding these things under the shelves.... :-\
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: IshiTib on March 25, 2008, 12:18 PM
oh no, bad news, more repacks of figures i don't need :o
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on March 25, 2008, 03:04 PM
I'm actually hoping they do a chop shop job with Gree and turn him into an ultimate EPII clone.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 25, 2008, 03:28 PM
Great, so kids will now have a mismatched figure line! That makes so much sense! ???
What a waste of tooling and shelf space for items that would sell far better.

I really hope the CW cartoon figures at 7.99 rot on shelf to remind them the lesson they never seem to learn - cater to the core audience! This was the stupidest decision on Hasbro's part to go this route. (Their own words in the Q&A's about realistic styling sells better vs. cartoonish only make this decision more mind boggling)) Their strategy of catering to kid's is a steaming pile of blue nosed baboon crap at best. Kid's today do not care about figures, all they want are some sort of screens to stare at. They may get a few figures but they will never buy to the level we do and it will show after a few months.

Everyone here knows the types of people (or C.H.U.D.S. in some cases) that scrounge the SW aisle and they are not young kids. My prediction is that this line will change after 9 months and go to realistic style after they see the backlog of figures. They will sell great the first 2 months when the show premiers then drastically slow down.

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/madness2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: ctonra on March 26, 2008, 04:49 PM
I sure hope they re-re-rerelease the C-3PO with battle droid head. 
Maybe they are hoping for the Saga Pegwarmers Legends.

But hey we all know that Each line will be kept seperate at retail and it will not effect replenishment on the others .  and we will all be able to pick-up the Legacy line with ease. 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on March 26, 2008, 04:59 PM
I'm personally hoping for recards of Jerjerrod and the Naboo Flight dude.   :-X
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JediJman on March 26, 2008, 06:24 PM
I'd give my left nut if they'd just do more Darth Vader figures.  Please please please just make all of the new Legends figs versions of Darth Vader throughout the years.  That way I don't have to buy any of them.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 27, 2008, 09:22 AM
Please please please just make all of the new Legends figs versions of Darth Vader throughout the years. 

That would be funny.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Phrubruh on March 27, 2008, 04:59 PM
Hasbro rep: "Hey, kids love Darth Vader! Let's make a solid case of him and make the stores buy three cases of him to every one case of our other lines."

Hasbro rep2: "Sounds like a winner to me!"
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 27, 2008, 10:01 PM
Please please please just make all of the new Legends figs versions of Darth Vader throughout the years. 

I'd buy.  :P

But seriously, Vader is the most identifiable character from Star Wars.  Don't you think it makes sense to have him on the pegs frequently?  (I'm not aiming this specifically at you Jman, just JD'ers in general).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JediJman on March 27, 2008, 11:33 PM
Please please please just make all of the new Legends figs versions of Darth Vader throughout the years. 

I'd buy.  :P

But seriously, Vader is the most identifiable character from Star Wars.  Don't you think it makes sense to have him on the pegs frequently?  (I'm not aiming this specifically at you Jman, just JD'ers in general).

LOL - I know you would!  I do think there's something to be said for re-releases of the main characters despite collectors already having 20+ versions.  These are the most popular characters for kids, so makes sense to have them available in some form most of the time.  I didn't buy any of the common characters in the Legends line this last year (Vader, R2, Chewie, etc.), but they all seem to sell, since none of those are on the pegs at the store I'm shopping now.  That means somebody's buying them, so kudos to Hasbro for trying to satisfy everyone.

All that being said, I would be totally fine with them never releasing another Darth Vader ever again.   ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 28, 2008, 09:35 AM
Although the Vaders have been a little crazy, particularly since ROTS, I'm one of the collectors that feels like the main characters should be out on the pegs periodically every year as well.  I just wish Hasbro would use the best versions more frequently (VOTC Han, Evolutions Vader, EB/VOTC Chewie, etc.)  I've often said that if they needed to have a Legends line I would just as soon they fill it with those "ultimate" versions of characters, so the ones on the pegs are at least the best they can offer for each figure.

I know I'm in the minority on this most likely, but I think I still get most excited when we hear of a new "ultimate, end-all be-all" version of a main character on the way (particular in the vintage line).  After seeing what has been done in the vintage, evolutions, and now even basic line - there are some improvements that can still be made to many of the main characters (Bespin Han, Hoth Luke, Jedi Luke, TPM/AOTC Obi-Wan, etc. come to mind), and I like seeing those new versions released throughout the line.  I really enjoy the background characters as well, and get excited for those too - but I honestly think if there were two "final" figures I had to choose between and could only buy one - SA, "ultimate" Bespin Han Solo or a background character like Wioslea, I'd pick Han every time.  Not that I don't want Wioslea or other background characters, because I do, but I'd like to see the line continue to be a mix of new characters and "ultimate" versions of the big guns.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: CHEWIE on March 28, 2008, 11:25 AM
Please please please just make all of the new Legends figs versions of Darth Vader throughout the years. 

I'd buy.  :P

But seriously, Vader is the most identifiable character from Star Wars.  Don't you think it makes sense to have him on the pegs frequently?  (I'm not aiming this specifically at you Jman, just JD'ers in general).

Yes, while I don't need any more Vaders - Vader is probably the one character in the Star Wars line that should always be available.  I'm not saying pack him in each case, but a 2-3 case assortments per year seems about right.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 28, 2008, 07:36 PM

I know I'm in the minority on this most likely, but I think I still get most excited when we hear of a new "ultimate, end-all be-all" version of a main character on the way (particular in the vintage line). 

I'm in that minority too!  Nothing more exciting to me than VOTC/VTSC/VTAC quality versions of the main characters in various outfits.  I'd take those over obscure aliens any day.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 30, 2008, 09:16 AM

I know I'm in the minority on this most likely, but I think I still get most excited when we hear of a new "ultimate, end-all be-all" version of a main character on the way (particular in the vintage line). 

I'm in that minority too!  Nothing more exciting to me than VOTC/VTSC/VTAC quality versions of the main characters in various outfits. 

I don't know why you guys think you're in the minority. I think lot of collectors like definitive versions of characters. I do.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 30, 2008, 12:45 PM
Hasbro rep: "Hey, kids love Darth Vader! Let's make a solid case of him and make the stores buy three cases of him to every one case of our other lines."

Hasbro rep2: "Sounds like a winner to me!"

And remember:  these solid Vader cases will IN NO WAY keep stores from ordering more cases of the Legacy Collection as they will be under a separate SKU!  Those 400 Vaders on the pegs for Legacy and Clone Wars are IN NO WAY delaying new products from coming in because Hasbro put them under a different number and stores pay oh so much attention to that type of thing!  ::)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Diddly on March 30, 2008, 01:16 PM
Yes, while I don't need any more Vaders - Vader is probably the one character in the Star Wars line that should always be available.  I'm not saying pack him in each case, but a 2-3 case assortments per year seems about right.

Hasbro tried this in 2006 and failed miserably. Remember when they repacked the 500th Vader 3 times in the year? Each newer Vader sold even worse than the previous one, mainly because it was the exact same figure with a new accessory. Just shipping the original Vader would have been good, but no, that's not the way Hasbro operates. I don't see Hasbro trying that for a while, or until they learn how to do it right.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 30, 2008, 03:36 PM
I think the idea of having Vader's out is a sound one...  The problem is too many shipping simultaneously.  That's bad at times.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 31, 2008, 05:44 PM
Agreed, JJ- there should always be one Vader shipping every or every other case, but only one type, short-packed, of the very best sculpt only.  I'm not sure which is considered the best these days, but I'd vote for VOTC or Evo style.  But just that one!  We shouldn't get another Vader in the regular line that year too.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on March 31, 2008, 06:51 PM
Couple weeks ago I went to the local Target Greatland, and counted exactly 41 various Vaders collecting dust on the pegs along with 1 Rieken and 2 Poggles.  Needless to say I haven't been back.  It was like somebody had taken them all to the stockroom for a while then dumped them back out, for a while there it was the only good Target that I could find new stuff then there was a bit of a dry spell then the crap load of Vader's.  I'd be happy if I never saw another Vader again.  Sorry for the rant.  :-\
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on March 31, 2008, 06:52 PM
I don't think Vaders have been too annoying in the last several months, at least in my area. There are usually only a couple, if any, whenever I'm checking the pegs.

If Hasbro does plan on keeping a Vader in every case until 2018, I would want to see an updated Evolutions Vader with the new hip and wrist articulation. If they were to make that one 'ultimate' Vader and keep re-releasing it again and again with an interesting new accessory every time (ROTS-esque 'environment' display base, crate, railing, mouse droid, doesn't have to be too much) then I'd be fine with that.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2008, 07:07 PM
No matter what, we're going to continue to see Vader in the line.  He's the main character in the entire SAGA.  And while there are times and areas where there are build-ups of him, he continues to sell... Vader is Star Wars.

Robo-Quack, I love the idea of adding the new hip articulation to him... would be great to see his waist get the ball joint too.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth Broem on April 2, 2008, 09:50 AM
Yep, even my 3 year old loves Vader.  Whenever I have him with me to check the aisles he asks me "Where is Darf Vadaar?"  I am sure he is not the only kid.  If a kid is into Star Wars chances are they want a Darth Vader.  Hasbro wants any version of Darth on the pegs so the parent will buy one for him/her.  The only version I see on the pegs now are that hologram and some Legends version.  They don't seem to hang around for long. 

It does get nauseating as collectors to see Vaders all the time and all the versions but I understand why. 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 19, 2008, 10:27 AM
Scum has posted pictures in their forum of several packaged legends figures. Shown:

Obi-Wan (Rots)
Darth Vader (Rots)
Mace Windu (Rots)
General Grevious
Clone (Aotc)
Super Battle Droid
Destoyer Droid (non shield)
Plo-Koon
Yoda w/Kybuck
C-3PO - Ewok Deity

Also interesting to note - there's a "clone locker" in each package.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on May 19, 2008, 10:33 AM
I guess these are prequel legneds as the only OT character is 3PO. Not that I'm clamoring for more repacks  ::)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: evenflow on May 19, 2008, 11:55 AM
I wonder what is in the clone lockers? I could use another Kybuck. so at least i will get one locker.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Nicklab on May 19, 2008, 12:32 PM
How about some link love for the site that originally posted the images?  POTF2.COM Forums (http://www.potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13369).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JediJman on May 19, 2008, 12:56 PM
How about some link love for the site that originally posted the images?  POTF2.COM Forums (http://www.potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13369).

Well technically he found them on RS and when you go to RS, they reference POTF2.com, so I think we're all legally covered.   ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on May 19, 2008, 01:07 PM
What, no C-3PO with battledroid head?  What is Hasbro thinking?  But seriously, I think its cool that they are keeping Gree and Kashyyyk trooper in rotation for a little while, check back in August though.  The otheR Site suggested that they clone locker had an extra rifle in it, or perhaps a piece for the build a droid.  Not sure how I feel about that.  Is that there way of satisfying the fans who wanted accessory packs?
I like the concept of keeping core characters in circulation, but no matter how much I like Plo Koon, he's not a core character.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on May 19, 2008, 01:12 PM
What, no C-3PO with battledroid head?  What is Hasbro thinking?  But seriously, I think its cool that they are keeping Gree and Kashyyyk trooper in rotation for a little while, check back in August though.  The otheR Site suggested that they clone locker had an extra rifle in it, or perhaps a piece for the build a droid.  Not sure how I feel about that.  Is that there way of satisfying the fans who wanted accessory packs?
I like the concept of keeping core characters in circulation, but no matter how much I like Plo Koon, he's not a core character.

Actually they speculate the rifle being included with the locker. The droid parts would come with Gree and the Kasshyyk clone as they aren't a part of the Legends line.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on May 19, 2008, 01:33 PM
I wonder what is in the clone lockers?

Hasbro said in the Q&As that the Legacy Saga Legends "clone locker" contains 5 clone weapons... though we don't exactly know which 5 weapons.

From Hasbro:
Each cardboard weapons locker (similar to the little box that houses the relic in the Indiana Jones line) will have 5 clone weapons - the same weapons in every single Saga Legends figure.

The otheR Site suggested that they clone locker had an extra rifle in it, or perhaps a piece for the build a droid. 

Like Jayson said, the regular Legacy Collection repacks will have various build a droid pieces, while the "Saga Legends" repacks (they have the blue Saga Legends logo on the bubble insert) will have the extra weapons clone lockers.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on May 19, 2008, 01:38 PM
Why do we need 5 clone weapons per each basic figure?  That seems quite excessive, no?  At least it's good reasoning for the $1 bump we're going to get.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rune Haako on May 19, 2008, 01:40 PM
Nice to see the SBD back with no holes.

I hope the Separatist Droids and Jedi don't come with clone trooper weapons, that'd be stupid.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on May 19, 2008, 01:46 PM
Nice to see the SBD back with no holes.

I hope the Separatist Droids and Jedi don't come with clone trooper weapons, that'd be stupid.


But you know they will.

As for the weapons, I'd guess:
1x Clone Wars Rifle (skinny sculpt)
2x Clone Blasters
2x Clone Pistols

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rune Haako on May 19, 2008, 01:51 PM
But they don't use them, it makes no sense.

But then again when has Hasbro made any sense?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: ruiner on May 19, 2008, 02:08 PM
I like the idea.  We're always losing weapons.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: CHEWIE on May 19, 2008, 02:10 PM
I'd like to see 2 thick rifles, 2 blasters and a thermal detonator...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: evenflow on May 19, 2008, 02:49 PM
Well if the lockers are made of paper like the indiana jones crates then i dont need them, i had assumed they were made of plastic.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 19, 2008, 04:11 PM
Nice to see the SBD back with no holes.

I hope the Separatist Droids and Jedi don't come with clone trooper weapons, that'd be stupid.


But you know they will.

As for the weapons, I'd guess:
1x Clone Wars Rifle (skinny sculpt)
2x Clone Blasters
2x Clone Pistols



That's my guess exactly.

Though I'd rather see 3 clone rifles and 2 blasters.

We've had enough clones with blasters that should have received the rifle treatment.  So I'm hoping there's more of the rifles to fix that oversight on Hasbro's part.

Hasbro did say that they are doing this to help replace missing guns. Though that only covers clones and not OT era characters. Han's style of gun was used by several people for instance.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on May 19, 2008, 04:19 PM
From what is shown so far, it looks like I'll be able to pass.  I guess I can see why Hasbro would put these characters out with the big Clone Wars push - and these are obviously aimed towards kids - but most of these have been out plenty (or are out there right now) so you would think kids have had ample opportunity to pick these characters up already.  Plus, it almost seems like "in case the animated style doesn't fly, we have these on the pegs" plan of action - but who knows.  Like I said, from what is shown so far, I'm passing.  I thought they mentioned this would mainly focus on Clone Wars, so its strange seeing the "throne" with 3PO in there - oh well, at least there is one OT character.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 20, 2008, 09:04 AM
How about some link love for the site that originally posted the images?  POTF2.COM Forums (http://www.potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13369).

Well technically he found them on RS and when you go to RS, they reference POTF2.com, so I think we're all legally covered.   ;)

Believe me, if I had noticed that they didn't originate from 'scum, I would have referenced POTF2.com.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on May 20, 2008, 07:29 PM
Why do we need 5 clone weapons per each basic figure?  That seems quite excessive, no?  At least it's good reasoning for the $1 bump we're going to get.

First I'd ref the $1 bump for sure as good reason to get a bunch of accessories, but mostly I'd say that getting extra clone weaponry has been a pretty hefty demand by people.  Is it enough to buy Legends figures nobody wants though?  Eh, I dunno, but if there's a handful of the Clone rifle in there, I'm digging it...  I would dig if it were mixed up a bit and we got the sniper rifle that came with the Jetpack Clone, the "gatling gun" from the Battlefront pack, the Rocket launcher from the battlefront pack...  Those would be cool to me, to see packed in with these Legends figures, and honestly they could probably push me to buy some.  I'm short on rifles for sure. :(
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on May 21, 2008, 09:35 AM
Actually, if it is like you hope Jesse, a kind of grab bag of weapons, that'd be pretty cool.  I hadn't really considered they'd do that, but I guess it makes as much sense as putting just a couple clone rifles in.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 21, 2008, 11:30 AM
Actually, if it is like you hope Jesse, a kind of grab bag of weapons, that'd be pretty cool.  I hadn't really considered they'd do that, but I guess it makes as much sense as putting just a couple clone rifles in.

As pointed out, Hasbro has already said the weapons would be the same from figure to figure in the clone locker. Unless they backpedal on that (which they've been known to do), there will be no reason to think there will be different accessories with each locker.

Sorry, not trying to burst the bubble here, but I also don't want a frivilous rumor to be started by someone's hopeful wishes, only to be trounced later on, then people getting mad at Hasbro for something that wasn't their fault *.

*They have enough to answer for with their treatment of GH over the Falcon.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on May 21, 2008, 11:40 AM
I'd like to see 2 thick rifles, 2 blasters and a thermal detonator...

PM'D you Chewie.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on May 21, 2008, 01:57 PM
Yeah, there's no rumor there, just a "neat idea" if they were to branch out clone weaponry as some of those pieces aren't easy to come by.

As it is though, I'm happy with rifles considering I don't have near enough, so I'm still pretty content on the extra weapons as they'll likely turn out to be.  It's something I asked for a long time ago, and it's working out, so yay.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: ctonra on May 21, 2008, 02:44 PM
It is good to see they have decided to rest Battle Droid head C-3PO this time around
But even the Ewok C3-PO warms the shelf here in NJ
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: IshiTib on May 22, 2008, 04:30 AM
Plo Koon is the best one of Saga Legends, but the rest, not very interesting I think
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 22, 2008, 02:13 PM
The funny thing about the C-3PO is that it's a fantastic sculpt of a core character, but that Ewok throne (awesome though it was) seems to relegate this figure to pegwarmer status.  He seems to be scene specific, even though he's not!  What they should is paint up that version of 3PO like the one from the purchase of the droids cinema scene (dirty and oily) and pack in a repainted treadwell or Gonk with a new paintjob.  Another idea is to make an R2 from the R4-G9 mold with excellent paint apps and put him out there in this line.  These are "Legends" after all, so they should represent the best of the core characters.  One other I wish I'd see is VOTC Luke (perhaps with a better headsculpt) in this line.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on May 22, 2008, 02:59 PM
The funny thing about the C-3PO is that it's a fantastic sculpt of a core character, but that Ewok throne (awesome though it was) seems to relegate this figure to pegwarmer status.  He seems to be scene specific, even though he's not!  What they should is paint up that version of 3PO like the one from the purchase of the droids cinema scene (dirty and oily) and pack in a repainted treadwell or Gonk with a new paintjob.  Another idea is to make an R2 from the R4-G9 mold with excellent paint apps and put him out there in this line.  These are "Legends" after all, so they should represent the best of the core characters.  One other I wish I'd see is VOTC Luke (perhaps with a better headsculpt) in this line.

Or they could've made the silver leg gold and he'd have fit in w/the rest of the PT wave, minus the throne of course.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 23, 2008, 09:09 AM
The funny thing about the C-3PO is that it's a fantastic sculpt of a core character, but that Ewok throne (awesome though it was) seems to relegate this figure to pegwarmer status.  He seems to be scene specific, even though he's not!  What they should is paint up that version of 3PO like the one from the purchase of the droids cinema scene (dirty and oily) and pack in a repainted treadwell or Gonk with a new paintjob.  Another idea is to make an R2 from the R4-G9 mold with excellent paint apps and put him out there in this line.  These are "Legends" after all, so they should represent the best of the core characters.  One other I wish I'd see is VOTC Luke (perhaps with a better headsculpt) in this line.

Or they could've made the silver leg gold and he'd have fit in w/the rest of the PT wave, minus the throne of course.

I would think they would have done this. Of all the OT characters to repackage, this one does stick out as odd, especially be the odd man out.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on June 6, 2008, 05:51 PM
Looks like we'll be getting the weapons from the Battlefront II battle pack.  That'll be the chain gun, missle launcher, & EMP launcher are the only one that haven't seen wide spread release.

from:
www.yakface.com

Q2: Dear Hasbro - Imagery of the Legacy "Legends" Wave has shown up online and the pack in accessory shows "Clone Gear" lockers. What is the breakdown of the "gear" – Rifles? Blasters? Pistols? Armor? Binoculars?

A2: They are all blasters, taken from the Battlefront II Clone trooper figure packs. Not all of the blasters will be included, but some very basic and very cool ones will be included.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 7, 2008, 10:06 AM
 :(

Not excited about that at all. Good thing I'll be passing on just about all of them.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 7, 2008, 10:50 AM
So this just dawned on me - with the Legacy collection we're going to have to deal with BOTH repacks of TAC figures in Legacy Collection packaging w/Build-a-Droid parts AND repacks from the past few years of Star Wars figures in "Saga Legends" packaging w/Clonetrooper Gear Lockers.

Where the heck is the room on the pegs going to be for the actual NEW figures that are being released.

If you think about this past year where half the pegs were dedicated to Saga Legends and the other half were dedicated to TAC - what does that mean for a breakdown of Clone Wars vs. Legacy Collection vs. Saga Legends? And if Hasbro already has a mechanism/method in place for re-releasing old figures in "Saga Legends" packaging which is a variation of the Legacy Collection, why bother putting OLD figures in with Build-a-Droid parts?!?!

Are there going to be Build-a-Droids where you have to re-buy old figures just to get the droid? I certainly hope not.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on June 7, 2008, 10:33 PM
Are there going to be Build-a-Droids where you have to re-buy old figures just to get the droid? I certainly hope not.

Hasbro said in the Q&As at some point that the straight repacked "greatest hits" figures would not contain "new" B-a-D pieces, but rather recycle the existing pieces for that wave.  So, for example, if a Repack/Greatest Hits figure ships in "Wave 2" it should have one of the existing Wave 2 Droid Parts. 

It's nice that loose collectors won't be forced into buying repacks to get droid pieces... but man are the carded collectors going to take it in the wazoo with the current plan of repacking old figures and changing the droid parts as figures are carried forward from wave to wave.   ::)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 8, 2008, 12:48 AM
Hasbro Receptionist: Mr. DePriest, I have product Overload on line 2 for you...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on June 13, 2008, 09:17 PM
Hmmm... an anonymous source e-mailed me today with a picture of what appears to be the contents of the "Clone Gear" locker...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-08/clonelocker.jpg)

I have no way to verify the source at the moment, so please just consider this a "rumor" for now...   ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Greg on June 13, 2008, 09:45 PM
If that rumor proves true, then that is a really disappointing arsenal. I was really holding out for the bazooka, at the least. Looks like I'd be better off tracking down 4 BF II Clone sets like I'd originally planned.
Title: Re: Clone Gear
Post by: Jesse James on June 14, 2008, 01:33 AM
I gotta admit, the idea of the Clone Footlockers is really growing on me.  I know a big thing I wanted, but wouldn't pay for, from the Battlefront sets was weapons.  I'm wondering if these are the guns we're gonna see then?  It's an interesting photo and clearly has the "******" there in it.  I was hoping for the rocket launcher, but I dig seeing the sniper rifle, regular Clone rifles, and the EMP rifle from the battlefront set.

I can use more battledroids too for sure.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 14, 2008, 10:27 AM
One weapon per locker or all six?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2008, 10:50 AM
In an early '08 Q&A, Hasbro said to expect 5 weapons in each locker...

Each cardboard weapons locker (similar to the little box that houses the relic in the Indiana Jones line) will have 5 clone weapons - the same weapons in every single Saga Legends figure.

So I'm guessing it's all 6 guns... the little pistol must be a bonus! ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 15, 2008, 11:07 AM
A pleasant surprise. Now where's the OT one with OT blasters?  ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Diddly on August 18, 2008, 10:17 PM
Ugh. I was running some errands today and stopped by two of my local Wal-Marts. Both restocked the pegs with TONS of Saga Legends figures, probably 75-80% of what was on the pegs were Saga Legends. Looks like this set of Legends figs are going to take up all the peg space, preventing me from getting the new stuff. Just like 30AC... just like TSC...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on August 18, 2008, 10:25 PM
Ugh. I was running some errands today and stopped by two of my local Wal-Marts. Both restocked the pegs with TONS of Saga Legends figures, probably 75-80% of what was on the pegs were Saga Legends. Looks like this set of Legends figs are going to take up all the peg space, preventing me from getting the new stuff. Just like 30AC... just like TSC...

Get used to it.  Hasbro seems to think that retailers can distinguish between the lines, but thats never been the case at least in my part of the country.  Lucklily I haven't seen an influx of Legends as of yet, but I'm sure it's coming.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 18, 2008, 10:38 PM
I'm still fighting the urge to pick up all of the figures in this line MoMC.

I did that with the Saga Legends line from last year. It is very disheartening to see that they're going to pull the same b.s. this year with four versions of the Clone Trooper Officers and Battle Droids.

I picked up a Super Battledroid only 'cause a friend of mine pointed out that it's not quite a re-release of the TAC figure since they filled in the holes that were the chest to accomodate the "flames".

The Clone Weapons Locker is a nice touch, and I was happy to have a set of different types of weapons that I could give my 12 member squad of SA 501st Troopers. It's cool to have each of them sporting a unique weapon.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Diddly on August 19, 2008, 12:06 AM
Ugh. I was running some errands today and stopped by two of my local Wal-Marts. Both restocked the pegs with TONS of Saga Legends figures, probably 75-80% of what was on the pegs were Saga Legends. Looks like this set of Legends figs are going to take up all the peg space, preventing me from getting the new stuff. Just like 30AC... just like TSC...

Get used to it.  Hasbro seems to think that retailers can distinguish between the lines, but thats never been the case at least in my part of the country.  Lucklily I haven't seen an influx of Legends as of yet, but I'm sure it's coming.

Oh, I'm used to it, but up until today Wal-Mart had managed to keep the Legends figs to a minimum and actually stock the new figures. Now they're rivaling Target and TRU for "most Legends figures on the pegs". Although at least Wal-Mart has restocked since 7/26...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Ben on August 19, 2008, 02:31 AM
I thought this area was the only one getting inundated with Legends. I've already written off finding wave 3 here at retail, since it's so bad.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 19, 2008, 09:38 AM
I thought this area was the only one getting inundated with Legends.

Heck no. These have been peg warming since day one around here.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Ben on August 19, 2008, 12:36 PM
We had quite a bit at first, but nothing like what's out there now. Target really seems to like their Legends assortments.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JediJman on August 19, 2008, 01:37 PM
Is anyone from here buying these? I don't think I've seen them selling at all.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 19, 2008, 02:46 PM
Well, they did retool the Super Battle Droid to not have the holes in its chest, so I picked up one of those so far.   The rest I figure are probably *only* being bought by kids and the 173 collectors who still collect every variant of every figure on every card.   It seems a pretty safe bet that they're going to repackage this group of figures every year between now and when the line becomes unprofitable,
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2008, 02:51 PM
Mostly for the weapons sets, but I picked up an AOTC Clone (never too many of those) and a SBD, and may get some more SBD's as that's just a great figure overall and the extra weaponry is nice to have.  Beyond that, and unless i have the spare cash, I'm not buying Legends stuff.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: evenflow on August 19, 2008, 02:55 PM
I picked up the Yoda w/ Kybuck just for another Kybuck. Its a great figure. I didnt realize about the SBD so i will pick up one of those but thats it for me.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Reid on August 19, 2008, 03:21 PM
I've so far only bought the SBD, and it's pretty nice. The BFII weapons are top notch. Might get an AOTC Clone.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on August 19, 2008, 03:34 PM
I debated buying one for the clone locker, but I decided to wait...  I figure it's only a matter of time before they put some new repaints in the Legends assortment, so I'll just wait for those.  ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on August 19, 2008, 03:46 PM
I figure it's only a matter of time before they put some new repaints in the Legends assortment, so I'll just wait for those.  ;)

You hush   >:(
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 20, 2008, 09:33 AM
Well, they did retool the Super Battle Droid to not have the holes in its chest,

I didn't know that. I'm looking for an excuse to pick up at least one Legends, that might be it.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Scott on August 21, 2008, 09:30 PM
I always rearrange the pegs at the local Target and Wal-Mart to put the CW, BAD and Legends figures on the right pegs...I've also stolen the shelf tags for the Legends at both stores.  I don't think they order by scanning the tag anymore but a guy can at least be passive aggressive
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on August 21, 2008, 09:34 PM
Pulled the trigger on a Legends fig today, the Super Battle Droid. He's "just different enough" for me to justify the purchase and other than the Yoda w/Kybuck I'll be skipping this sub-line this year. Unless there are some deep discounts to be had somewhere.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 22, 2008, 09:40 AM
Think I saw wave 2 on the pegs. Battle Droid 2-pack, Darth Maul, Vader...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 28, 2008, 09:43 AM
Picked up my first Legends figure, the Super Battle droid, just because it doesn't have the flame holes.  :P
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on August 28, 2008, 11:51 AM
Well, they did retool the Super Battle Droid to not have the holes in its chest,

I didn't know that. I'm looking for an excuse to pick up at least one Legends, that might be it.

I think the minus flame holes, came originally with the TRU Geo battlepack, silver version
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2008, 09:22 AM
I think the minus flame holes, came originally with the TRU Geo battlepack, silver version

Actually (and this might just be mine), the silver on in the STAP Attack BP still has the flame holes on the chest.  The "Raiders" SBD in the "Battle on Mygeeto" BP doesn't have the holes, however, so I think that's the first appearance of the non-holey sculpt.  Unless there was a running change to the STAP SBD that I haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 29, 2008, 09:42 AM
I think the first non-holed SBD was the gold cmic pack one.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on August 29, 2008, 09:49 AM
I think the first non-holed SBD was the gold cmic pack one.

No, it had holes for grenades to attach to it.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 29, 2008, 09:50 AM
I think the first non-holed SBD was the gold cmic pack one.

No, it had holes for grenades to attach to it.

Crap. You're right.  :-[
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on August 30, 2008, 10:11 PM
I saw the second wave of SL today: ARC & BARC Troopers, Maul, 501st, Shocker, E2 Clone Captain & Battle Droids.

I didn't pick any of them up but I did notice that pack in Clone Locker is different as it no longer has the blue striping on it or the Republic insignia. It's essentially plain white with minimal weathering and the faux venting. I wonder if the contents of the lockers are the same?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on September 1, 2008, 11:38 AM
I'm looking forward to finally getting to army build SA 501st, because they were pretty non-existent around here last year. I'll probably also pick up a few BARC Troopers.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth Broem on September 3, 2008, 09:55 AM
I kind of wonder if everyone is going to build the 501st and they will be non-existent again?  Oh well it's another crack at it.  Heck, I still want to pick those up and the red shocktroopers and AOTC troopers. 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rob on September 6, 2008, 12:46 PM
Do these SA 501st clones have any of that crap on their boots?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rune Haako on October 2, 2008, 09:49 PM
Saga Legends Wave 3,

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C)

 1x R2-D2
1x Clone Trooper
1x Clone Trooper Officer (Yellow)
1x 501st Clone Trooper
1x ARC Trooper
1x Sandtrooper
1x Luke Skywalker (X-wing Pilot)
1x ARC Trooper (Red Commander)
1x Tri-Droid
1x Snowtrooper
1x Saesee Tiin
1x Clone Trooper (Episode III)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on October 3, 2008, 02:15 AM
Snowtrooper eh?

Vinage style?  I hope so...  If it was the Ultimate Battlepack paintjob, more the better!
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Nicklab on October 3, 2008, 02:58 AM
It was mentioned in the latest Q&A that Hasbro was looking to get the vintage Snowtrooper back into circulation.  I guess this might seal it, and the second 2009 TESB wave will have an open slot for something other than a Snowtrooper.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 3, 2008, 09:03 AM
VOTC Luke X-Wing pilot as well? Looks like there are a couple of good choices in that list.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on October 3, 2008, 09:52 AM
Definitely happy to see the Snowtrooper on the list.  Hopefully it will be as plentiful as the Biker Scouts seemed to be in last year's assortment.  I never complained about those pegwarming at our local WM, it was always tempting to pick up another one.  I'm also glad to see something like X-Wing Luke in there (hopefully/likely the VTSC version).  These Legends assortments always seem to be so prequel/clone dominated, and its nice to see some OT love for once.  I've always thought that if we have to have a line like this, they just as well put things like VOTC Han, EB Chewie, VOTC Leia, Stormtroopers/Biker Scouts/Snowtroopers, and other figures like that in there too.  They want the "big names" out there, so why not put the OT cast in this assortment too and use the "best of the best" while you're at it.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on October 3, 2008, 09:56 AM
I wonder if the black pauldron Sandtrooper will be in this wave?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 3, 2008, 10:00 AM
I will be a happy collector if the VTSC snowtrooper is released on a regular card. I only have a couple of those guys, and I'd love to set up a nice group of them.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on October 3, 2008, 10:00 AM
Oooh... good question Jayson.  I hope we finally see that clean, black pauldron Sandtrooper in there.  I'd gladly buy a few of those.  :)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JediJman on October 3, 2008, 03:42 PM
I wonder if the black pauldron Sandtrooper will be in this wave?

I don't need anymore snowies, but would be nice to see the black sandie at long last.  I wouldn't mind more SA X-wing Lukes either, though the $8 price tag on these isn't that appealing.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: jedipurge on October 3, 2008, 05:45 PM
I wonder if the black pauldron Sandtrooper will be in this wave?

I don't need anymore snowies, but would be nice to see the black sandie at long last.  I wouldn't mind more SA X-wing Lukes either, though the $8 price tag on these isn't that appealing.

Ya Luke is almost the same price as when he originally came out in VOTC which is sad.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on October 3, 2008, 06:49 PM
A Snowtrooper re-release (hopefully with a cleaner deco) is very welcome news indeed. :)

I would've actually preferred if Luke was being re-released in the Snowspeeder Pilot outfit, but the X-Wing Pilot is still a great choice for a Legends wave and I may pick a couple up for customs.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on October 4, 2008, 01:14 AM
I'd dig seeing a VTSC Luke hybrid with the new Snowspeeder Pilots from the Evo sets.  That could make one really ideal Snowspeeder Luke...  The current "best" Snowspeeder Luke is very lackluster due to height and articulation to me.   :-\
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 4, 2008, 10:07 AM
The current "best" Snowspeeder Luke is very lackluster due to height and articulation to me.   :-\

Yeah, but it's paint job is perfect.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on October 4, 2008, 01:55 PM
Paint's fine, but his boots are inaccurate I think, his height's incredibly off...  Lots of things wrong with him too.  Paint isn't something people shouldn't usually expect to be right, as that's a simple quality issue.  When paintjobs are bad that's simply a lack of quality control generally.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on November 24, 2008, 11:44 PM
I wonder if the black pauldron Sandtrooper will be in this wave?

New pics at RS reveal that it is indeed planned to be the Black Pauldron, Clean Trooper - Yay!  :)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/SL21sandtrooper1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on November 25, 2008, 04:32 AM
I'm pretty happy about the Clean-Black Sandy.  He'll go well with the Clean stormies I picked up earlier this year.  I'm also excited they are keeping the tridroid for a while longer.  Its just a monster figure, even if its a bit bendy.  Its good to fill in the ranks of my Seps a bit.

When are they going to aim the Clone Lockers at OT weapons?  I'm sure its been suggested before, but OT figs need some equipment as well....  The variety of different weapons we see stormies carrying alone would be enough to fill the locker.  There is the E-11, the BFG that some of the Sandies had this past year, there is the long rifle that I think Han ends up carrying in the DS, of course there is small blaster that the Scout Troopers carry, and there is the so called Rebel Blaster, which seems to be standard equipment for the Death Star Troopers.  Hasbro could be nice and sculpt a rocket launcher or something....
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 25, 2008, 09:48 AM
Where's the stripes on the clone locker? Mock-up package?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on November 25, 2008, 09:51 AM
Where's the stripes on the clone locker? Mock-up package?

Don't the stripeless lockers indicate that the weapons within aren't painted?  Ie, no wooden looking stock on the rifle, etc?  The all black weapons are the ones pictured on RS, which aligns with the non-striped lockers.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 25, 2008, 09:53 AM
Where's the stripes on the clone locker? Mock-up package?

Don't the stripeless lockers indicate that the weapons within aren't painted?  Ie, no wooden looking stock on the rifle, etc?  The all black weapons are the ones pictured on RS, which aligns with the non-striped lockers.

I've never heard that before. Interesting.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on November 25, 2008, 10:03 AM
Where's the stripes on the clone locker? Mock-up package?

They've been like that for a while now. The most recent wave with the clones started phasing in the stripe-less lockers.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2008, 11:08 AM
When are they going to aim the Clone Lockers at OT weapons?  I'm sure its been suggested before, but OT figs need some equipment as well....  The variety of different weapons we see stormies carrying alone would be enough to fill the locker.  There is the E-11, the BFG that some of the Sandies had this past year, there is the long rifle that I think Han ends up carrying in the DS, of course there is small blaster that the Scout Troopers carry, and there is the so called Rebel Blaster, which seems to be standard equipment for the Death Star Troopers.  Hasbro could be nice and sculpt a rocket launcher or something....

I agree.  Although I can certainly see the focus on the PT/clone stuff with Clone Wars, as well as the probability that kiddos are more familiar with/interested in the prequel movies and clones in general - this is just another example of the OT really getting the short end of things these days.  Don't get me wrong, we still get some really nice figures - and surprises like an all-new Falcon, the Sarlacc, etc. - but overall there is just so much more attention on the prequel era of things.  I guess many could say that the OT had its "day in the sun" through the combination of the vintage days and POTF2 line, but with the product being so improved since then, I wouldn't mind seeing more of an even split between the two at this point.  With the recent rumors, it sounds like the figure line might be a bit better with that in 2009.  One area that I always think seems really light on the OT is the $20 starfighter vehicle assortment.  We don't see much in there outside of Vader's TIE anymore, and it would be nice if a few more OT offerings were sprinkled in here and there.  There has to be a few more that would fit that pricepoint.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 27, 2008, 09:54 AM
Where's the stripes on the clone locker? Mock-up package?

They've been like that for a while now. The most recent wave with the clones started phasing in the stripe-less lockers.

I just noticed that in the stores with the later wave. Haven't been keeping up on legends since I've been passing on them.  :P
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on November 27, 2008, 06:32 PM
Haven't been keeping up on legends since I've been passing on them.  :P

Me neither, but it's nice to see figures in new packaging on the pegs that I've never seen before.  TAC killed me on this - especially 3-PO and all the other variants. 

Rot in hell Legends...Rot in hell.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 29, 2008, 06:22 PM
Does anyone know how many versions of the Battle Droid 2-pack there is? I have a set that's got two tan droids and a set that's got two red droids.

Neither set matches what's pictured on the back where one of the two droids is painted to look like a BD Commander.

Is there a third set or is this just a Hasbro packaging screw-up?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 1, 2008, 09:14 AM
No third set has been released yet, and as far as I know, a third is not on the way. Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on December 3, 2008, 04:33 PM
I didn't necessarily want to start a new thread for this, but what are some of your suggestions for the Saga Legends line?  It seems like we're always going to have some sort of repack heavy line at retail, alongside the normal line(s), but it seems like a lot of the figures continue to get repeated.  Are there any other figures you'd like to see appear in the Legends line?

Here's a few, off the top of my head:

VOTC Han Solo
VOTC Princess Leia
VOTC/EB Chewbacca
VOTC/Tantive BP Stormtrooper
Evolutions Anakin Skywalker (AOTC)
Evolutions Darth Maul
Evolutions Jango Fett
Evolutions Boba Fett
Evolutions Qui-Gon Jinn
TSC Utapau Clonetrooper

There are other figures that have been used before that are good choices (AOTC Clone, Biker Scout, etc.), some that are on the way soon (VTSC Snowtrooper, VTSC Luke), or even really recent figures (TLC Grievous, etc.) and I think - for the most part - that almost any of the Evolutions and/or VOTC/VTSC figures are pretty decent candidates to get out there again.  It just seems like we've been seeing a lot of the same figures (or clones), and I wouldn't mind seeing a few more new ones sprinkled in (OT characters in particular would be nice).  I can understand consistently having figures like the Evolutions (ROTS) Anakin and ROTS Pilot Obi-Wan out there like they do as well, as they are pretty much the best versions of each of those characters.  Anyways, I know I'm forgetting several, but any other suggestions?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on December 3, 2008, 05:05 PM
Probably just me, but the TAC Galactic Marine was pretty sweet.  I'd like to see that again.  That might be a bit too specific for most people's tastes though, I think they'd prefer best versions of main characters or plain army builders.

I could see Hasbro adding more variety into their Saga legends.  How about R2, R3, R4, R5 units in various paint schemes.  Kind of like they've done with the AOTC clone officers...  Or the often requested Rebel Pilots in a couple of different headsculpts...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 4, 2008, 09:14 AM
High on my list:

Shadow Bikerscout
Stormtrooper commander
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: DoctorPadawan on December 4, 2008, 06:54 PM
I think that the "Saga Legends" concept needs to be retired completely at this point, and just reissue figures that people are actually having difficulty finding as "Greatest Hits" figures in the Legacy line (like with Gree, EVO Trooper, etc).  Everywhere I go, SL is clogging up the pegs, and not even the post-Thanksgiving rush for Christmas gifts was helping to clear them.  No animated CW to be seen, but all the SL figures a person could possibly want.

I think that a third assortment is really overextending the line right now (I'm even in the apparent minority who thinks that Hasbro is overdoing it with the number of figures in both the CW and Legacy lines themselves at this point), and SL would be the easiest to cut completely with very few people missing it.  Take high-demand figures that are already planned for SL (such as the VTSC Snowtrooper, red ARC, etc) along with some other high-demand figures (Stormtrooper Commander), insert them as repacks in the regular Legacy/BAD line, and be done with it.  The market is saturated with now-out-of-date Grievouses, electronic R2-D2s, Endor Threepios, and shoddy Battle Droids, and SL isn't helping matters.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 5, 2008, 08:00 AM
I totally agree DoctorPadawan - when I heard that Hasbro was doing BOTH Greatest Hits figures in the BAD line and a Saga Legends line, that really confused me. Why not just stick with inserting GH figs in with the BAD assortments like you suggest.

Heck that would have been much better than re-packing a figure from a previous wave in a new wave with the new droid part. Take six SL figs and pack them with the silver RA-7 droid parts and put them out that way.

There was no need to be getting the Clone Officers again or the Battledroids again. The upcoming Sandtrooper and X-Wing Luke SL figs could have been GH insertions in the upcoming ANH wave just as easily.

Hasbro's reasoning for this line was to help put out characters that weren't going to be out in the other lines. So how does that explain Anakin, Obi-wan, Yoda, R2, Grievous, and the the basic AotC style clonetrooper. Did I miss something or aren't ALL of those characters in your first Clone Wars wave?!?!

The only buyers for this stuff are nut-job collectors like me who pick up 1 of each for the packaging variation and the desperate parents who are going to grab the SL Obi-wan when their kid really wanted the CW one, but couldn't find it 'cause it's sold out.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on December 5, 2008, 09:19 AM
I think that a third assortment is really overextending the line right now (I'm even in the apparent minority who thinks that Hasbro is overdoing it with the number of figures in both the CW and Legacy lines themselves at this point), and SL would be the easiest to cut completely with very few people missing it.  Take high-demand figures that are already planned for SL (such as the VTSC Snowtrooper, red ARC, etc) along with some other high-demand figures (Stormtrooper Commander), insert them as repacks in the regular Legacy/BAD line, and be done with it.  The market is saturated with now-out-of-date Grievouses, electronic R2-D2s, Endor Threepios, and shoddy Battle Droids, and SL isn't helping matters.

If you're in that minority, I'm there too.  Although I really like what we've been getting from the SW line(s) lately, for me, its just getting to be too much.  Granted, we can always just buy what we want, but like I've said before, its more tempting when its out there.  I really think Hasbro could scale back with the releases overall through the course of the year (and number of product lines) and still have great sales, and maybe wouldn't have some collectors feeling overwhelmed.  Anyways, that's a different topic.

I agree with what you guys are saying, as far as I'm concerned they could ditch the Legends assortment as well, and just insert the figures mentioned in the regular TLC waves.  That being said, I was just bringing up suggestions since it seems like Hasbro really likes to have this assortment at retail.  Although all of the SW stuff has been selling like crazy around here lately, it often does seem to be the Legends figures clogging things up at retail when something is not selling.  On the other side of things, I do understand the need to have the "big guns" out there at retail - particularly for parents/kiddos.  There have been several times I've seen parents frustrated because they couldn't find a Luke or Han on the pegs at certain times of the year (and there are other examples), and I could see that being frustrating as a parent/gift buyer.  Heck, using another example, a woman remarked to me in the toy aisle just yesterday that she was looking for a Captain America figure for her nephew (it was top on his list), and she can't find one anywhere (unless he wants a Mighty Muggs version).  She said she'd just be going online, and its nice that option is there, but I can kind of see where its nice to have the popular characters out for any given line.

Again, if we have to have an assortment like this, I think it would be better to keep it limited and to use the best versions possible.  Heck, you could even just put it out around the holidays primarily, as that seems to be where a lot of the casual buyers and gift givers come out in full force.  You could probably get a pretty good representation of what kids would maybe want in a dozen figure assortment or so, consisting of a Han, Luke, Chewie, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Vader, the clones/stormtroopers, and maybe a few supporting characters like Yoda, the Fetts, Maul, and the recent Grievous and call it good.  Overall though, I agree with the sentiment that there is just too many lines/stuff at this point.  I'm probably in the minority as well that I'm actually buying the Animated stuff alongside the Legacy Collection, but I wouldn't mind seeing just one line at retail eventually as well (realistic styled of course).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on December 5, 2008, 09:41 AM
I think for Hasbro the reason they keep this third line out there is they make a lot of money with it.  Time and again in Q&As they've mentioned the huge costs they have to create a new figure.  SL just lets them keep pumping out that same C-3PO without changing anything.  Meaning the development cost is spread over a much larger cost pool.  Same thing with that electronic R2, was ROTS the first time that came out, or do I remember a release prior to that?

I'd be happy with Hasbro rolling this into their regular releases.  Seems like the original idea that I was kind of sold on was to keep the main characters in circulation, but since then has gotten side tracked to keeping highly profitable figures in circulation...  But Hasbro is a business....
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on December 5, 2008, 09:51 AM
Here was Hasbro thoughts (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3511) when probed about the need for the SL subline:

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Q2: I know a lot of collectors are becoming a more selective these days in their purchases considering the price hikes in most of the SW line coupled with the big ticket items like the Falcon and AT-TE. As a result, the repacks (Legends) were the first to go. Granted business is about making money, but would it be a cost savings from a packaging development/printing and figure production standpoint for Hasbro overall if this repack subline was dropped in favor of having the Legacy and Clone Wars line only? It might make the higher prices an easier pill to swallow for collectors.

A2: In fact, the impact of dropping Saga Legends would be the exact opposite! By being able to re-release our most popular figures for the kid audience, it allows us to maintain our focus on newness in the Legacy and Clone Wars lines. Our take on Saga Legends has always been that it is not for the core collector, since the figures in the lineup are unchanged from their previous release (with a very few exceptions such as the 501st upgrade figure). As such, collectors can "ignore" them if they choose and concentrate on the Legacy and Clone Wars lines. If MOC collectors feel "compelled" to get Saga Legends to keep their collections intact, then we are sorry for the burden, but then carded collectors are used to working against some fairly sizeable numbers as we continue to have success with the line.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on December 5, 2008, 09:58 AM
Here was Hasbro thoughts (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3511) when probed about the need for the SL subline:

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Q2: I know a lot of collectors are becoming a more selective these days in their purchases considering the price hikes in most of the SW line coupled with the big ticket items like the Falcon and AT-TE. As a result, the repacks (Legends) were the first to go. Granted business is about making money, but would it be a cost savings from a packaging development/printing and figure production standpoint for Hasbro overall if this repack subline was dropped in favor of having the Legacy and Clone Wars line only? It might make the higher prices an easier pill to swallow for collectors.

A2: In fact, the impact of dropping Saga Legends would be the exact opposite! By being able to re-release our most popular figures for the kid audience, it allows us to maintain our focus on newness in the Legacy and Clone Wars lines. Our take on Saga Legends has always been that it is not for the core collector, since the figures in the lineup are unchanged from their previous release (with a very few exceptions such as the 501st upgrade figure). As such, collectors can "ignore" them if they choose and concentrate on the Legacy and Clone Wars lines. If MOC collectors feel "compelled" to get Saga Legends to keep their collections intact, then we are sorry for the burden, but then carded collectors are used to working against some fairly sizeable numbers as we continue to have success with the line.

Basically SL makes it so we can afford to keep basic figures under $9 and still have them be great like the new big Grevious.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on December 5, 2008, 10:01 AM
It makes sense, and I can see that the past couple years of having the Legends line at retail has largely eliminated straight repacks from the main line.  Sure, there has been the annual "repaint" wave, which this year almost had straight re-releases in it, and there's also been some slightly retooled figures here and there - but overall it hasn't been too bad.  It seems like we were just complaining about the endless repacks in the main line, and now they have their own line and we say put them back.  I don't think we'd mind the Legends line as much if it wasn't taking up all the space at retail, as it seems to be in the majority of places.  If it keeps the new figures from making it to the pegs, then it becomes a problem.  I know Hasbro will say "different SKUs" and all that, but at least in my areas, all the stores just stock "Star Wars" - not Legacy, Clone Wars, and Legends seperately.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Daigo-Bah on December 5, 2008, 10:34 AM
What I love about that Q and A answer is that they basically make fun of carded completists without actually sounding like they do  :P.  I personally would love the SL line if it was just frickin' cheaper!  I could always use an extra OT figure like a Biker Scout or throne C-3PO for dioramas, but I don't need them $7 badly.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on December 5, 2008, 11:18 AM
Agreed on the price.  If Legends were a more toned down line and a cheaper price, I'd probably be buying stuff.  I'd take more scouts, or BARC Troopers, or ARC Troopers, or even custom fodder...  And given they have the molds ready and able, these figures are (for all intents and purposes) cheaper for Hasbro to make.  The fixed costs are in, it's just the operations costs to crank them out, and those are usually absorbed immediately.  These figures are gravy for Hasbro...

The only problem with a decrease in price on these is that people (casual folk) would buy Legends over Legacy/Clone Wars then, probaby, since they would just see a random figure with a lower price.  Competing with yourself then in the toy aisle, more or less. 

I also think some of their figure choices, year-in-and-year-out, are horrible...  I mean, Grievous shouldn't have been offered if you're offering the new one in Legacy...  The Destroyer Droid shouldn't be in Legends if it's going to be out in Clone Wars, and so on (not to mention the Legends DD sucks balls).  Why not put more effort into getting CW Yoda on the pegs instead of the Kybuck Yoda in Legends (since that was, according to Hasbro, the audience they were going for by getting another Yoda out).  It just makes little sense to me.

I get the repaint waves we get...  They help fund new obscurity.  That's great...  But Legends should be special in at least their price, if nothing else.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on December 5, 2008, 11:34 AM
I also think some of their figure choices, year-in-and-year-out, are horrible...  I mean, Grievous shouldn't have been offered if you're offering the new one in Legacy... 
This is pretty much true of all the figures in SL.  There is a C3PO, R2, Grevious, Clone Troopers, Anakin, ObiWan, Plo Koon, Windu, SBD and DD in the Clone Wars line.  And there are a couple of the other legends in the Legacy line.

I'd like it if SL was basically the most popular, hard to find figures from the previous year or so.  Right now I'm thinking Evo and Jump Troopers, Gree, Revan and Malak, the McQuarrie figs, etc.  But I guess that's the point of Greatest Hits, which is filling in a couple waves....
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on December 5, 2008, 12:14 PM
Although Hasbro would never do it for the reasons Jesse listed (competing with themselves, etc.), I think the lower price point, "bare bones" approach to Legends wouldn't be so bad.  Like others have mentioned already, bring the price down to $5 - and maybe even differentiate the cardback more to make sure they don't get "mixed in" with the regular line, causing all sorts of headaches with price differences, stocking and all that.  You could do a basic, silver and black cardback with just a "Star Wars" logo on the top and "Legends" below it.  Heck, you could even narrow the cardback (I'm thinking of the old Super Powers days, where they had the regular line and then the "slim" cardback where it was basically just larger than the width of the bubble).  That way, it would really be different from the main line (other than just the SKU) and we could hopefully avoid the stocking troubles there.  Like its been mentioned, these are mostly figures that have been in circulation awhile - and are all repacks - so this line has to be gravy to Hasbro even at the lower price.

Next comes the figure selection, which has been poor in some cases.  Like Jesse mentioned, we don't need that crappy, underscaled Grievous in that line when a nice new one is out in the Legacy Collection (as well as Clone Wars).  We don't need three of the character in the same get up on the pegs at the same time.  Plus, its an example of an old figure that now needs to be retired.  I'm sure there are reasons why we still see some of these older figures, but to me - using Grievous as an example - once we have this vastly superior version out, retire all the ROTS ones.  From now on, if you repack a Grievous, or "tweak" him, use this TLC version.  Same goes for other main characters and troops.  No more Cantina Hans, SAGA Cloud City Chewies, 300th or action feature Fetts, etc.  Use the best versions, and leave those others in the past.  We don't see the He-Man Luke repacked, start treating these other oldies the same way.

Then it comes the issue of if you want rare figures included or popular figs for kids/parents/casual buyers included.  I can definitely see why collectors would want some rarer figs repackaged, but at the same time when I think of a title like "Star Wars Legends", I'm not thinking of Sio Bibble.  I'd almost rather see figures like that sprinkled into the "greatest hits" portion of the main line, and really make the Legends line (if it is a lower pricepoint, targeted at kids and army building) just focus on the big guns and troops for the most part.  I mean, even if they were repacks, I think a line filled with VOTC (Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Fett, Stormtrooper/Snow/Scouts, Yoda, etc.), Evolutions (Maul, Jango, Qui-Gon, Vader, Anakin, Padme, etc.), and random others (Clones, Pilot Obi-Wan, ARC Troops, TLC Grievous, etc.) would look pretty good as a lineup, and probably sell well - particularly around the holidays.  Again, they'll never do this, but its fun to talk about.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Nicklab on December 5, 2008, 10:07 PM
I'm still not totally crazy about the concept of Saga Legends.  Ideally I would like to see a line with as few reissues as possible.  But some figures that could bear being reissued?

-Clone Pilot - AOTC Evolutions sculpt
-Clone Officer - AOTC blue markings from EPISODE II commemorative tin set (also the Evolutions sculpt)
-Destroyer Droid with shield - 30AC line
-Chewbacca - Early bird - hands down this is one of the best Chewbacca's ever
-Luke Skywalker - VOTC ANH
-Han Solo - VOTC ANH
-Princess Leia - VOTC ANH
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 6, 2008, 10:04 AM

-Destroyer Droid with shield - 30AC line


I'd just like to see that on a Legacy card.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 6, 2008, 05:56 PM
I think Legends is a missed opportunity to give us the VOTC type figures without the vintage cards and protecto paks that jack the price up.
Title: Re: Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 12, 2009, 11:55 AM
I have a good question:

For what wave would be the ESB snowtrooper and when we would be be able to see it in stores?

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/TLCSLsnowtrooper1.jpg)

Also it looks very articulated, can possibly be the  Saga 2007 Vintage with removable helmet?
rebelscum report to be seen at stores after christmass but I hadn't seen any...

I want to make a big army of them, i hope they wouldn't be so hard to find as the TFU Shadow Guard  was.

Good pairing with the snow patrols.

I wonder if we would see AT-AT & AT-ST again?  ::)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Picture107.jpg)
Title: Re: Legends
Post by: Jayson on January 12, 2009, 11:59 AM
The packaging says "Saga Legends" so it's for that line. It is the SA version and he's out now alongside X-Wing Luke (Droidfactory repack), ARC Trooper Commander (Red), Tri-Droid, ROTS Clone Trooper (plain white) and Saesee Tinn.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on January 12, 2009, 12:34 PM
IIRC the Clean Sandtrooper with the Black pauldron is in that same assortment, well, I found the Sandtrooper, saw the Luke, ARC Commander & Tri-Droid, but not the Snowtrooper, which seems to be what others are finding as well.  But since I posted that, I'm sure the next post will be someone with a picture of the squad of Snowtroopers they found at Target this morning.....
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on January 12, 2009, 12:38 PM
Oops, forgot to mention the Sandy, thanks Keonobi
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 12, 2009, 12:44 PM
Thanks guys & mod for moving my post to the right place....

I look foward to find these guys hope you as well...

I will like to do some dioramas for Hoth figures as this genius does  :o

http://www.thenewsandcrawlerworkshop.com/Shelves/EchoBaseShelf/tabid/145/Default.aspx
http://www.thenewsandcrawlerworkshop.com/Shelves/HothBattle/tabid/64/Default.aspx
http://www.thenewsandcrawlerworkshop.com/Shelves/EchoBaseccPlaysetII/tabid/129/Default.aspx
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 14, 2009, 12:04 PM
I was in two Targets this morning, one right as it opened, the other within 20 minutes of it opening and they had clearly both received the "new" Legends this morning as they had none yesterday. No sign of the Snowtrooper though. Has anyone heard anything about anyone actually finding the Snowtrooper? Could it not be in the newest case even though its pictured and numbered in the middle of all the stuff that is in stores now.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on January 14, 2009, 12:24 PM
I was in two Targets this morning, one right as it opened, the other within 20 minutes of it opening and they had clearly both received the "new" Legends this morning as they had none yesterday. No sign of the Snowtrooper though. Has anyone heard anything about anyone actually finding the Snowtrooper? Could it not be in the newest case even though its pictured and numbered in the middle of all the stuff that is in stores now.

It because some stores are getting this case revision (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C2) that doesn't include the snowtrooper. The other three assortments (HS87995C (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C), HS87995C1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C1), HS87995C3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C3)) do.

Of these 4 cases the Tri-Droid looks to be the one that short packed. Only shipping in the HS87995C (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C) case.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 14, 2009, 01:02 PM
Thanks Jayson.

That figures that the case that is hitting around here has to be the one without the fig I really want. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JDH1173 on January 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
Dang!  There is going to be ALOT of clone troopers on the pegs.  Army builder dreams do come true!  Too bad I'm so broke I can't even pay attention. :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on January 15, 2009, 01:39 PM
If those are the only four assortments, the Snowtrooper ought to be somewhere out there.  I personally saw the Luke SL figure and I know I've read that others have as well.  Which is really strange because I haven't read anywhere that anyone has seen the Snowie.  Must be a couple someones at Walmart and Target central have an awesome Hoth battle going on right now...
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 16, 2009, 11:09 AM
Everyone love the Snowees.

I hope this is not the case of  employees  that work just temporaly to get the best toys & collectibles for themselves as happen all year.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: darkksith on January 16, 2009, 09:55 PM
I was in two Targets this morning, one right as it opened, the other within 20 minutes of it opening and they had clearly both received the "new" Legends this morning as they had none yesterday. No sign of the Snowtrooper though. Has anyone heard anything about anyone actually finding the Snowtrooper? Could it not be in the newest case even though its pictured and numbered in the middle of all the stuff that is in stores now.

It because some stores are getting this case revision (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C2) that doesn't include the snowtrooper. The other three assortments (HS87995C (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C), HS87995C1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C1), HS87995C3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C3)) do.

Of these 4 cases the Tri-Droid looks to be the one that short packed. Only shipping in the HS87995C (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87995C) case.

I can confirm that something is up with these case assortments. At 2 different Target stores today I spotted the case with the Tri-droid (HS87995C case) but no Snowtrooper. They had 1 extra of the AOTC clones instead. Both of these stores had no Legends figures the day before but had a total of 12 (normal case pack total) today.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darby on January 18, 2009, 11:44 AM
I saw this exact same thing at my Target.  The Snowtrooper is not in the case it's supposed to be.  It's either late, or maybe as I kind of suspected early on, it will turn in the TLC Hoth wave as a GH fig instead.  Or maybe it's just late.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Force Guy on January 21, 2009, 12:54 PM
I already have my fill of Snowtroopers.  I'm just glad I was able to find a red ARC Trooper.   
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 22, 2009, 04:53 PM
I picked up a SL Sandtrooper for my little Sandtrooper display.  I like how you can make him a normal stormtrooper by removing the pauldron and backpack and putting the small canister on his belt.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2009, 10:02 PM
I already have my fill of Snowtroopers.  I'm just glad I was able to find a red ARC Trooper.   

Is he different than previous Red ARCs?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Force Guy on January 22, 2009, 10:16 PM
I already have my fill of Snowtroopers.  I'm just glad I was able to find a red ARC Trooper.   

Is he different than previous Red ARCs?

Well, he's the same Red ARC Trooper as the one included with the Target exclusive Order 66 2-pack, which I passed on.  That's precisely why I was glad to pick him up. 

Is he different than the versions released prior to that Target exclusive 2-pack?  He's certainly different than the Red ARC Trooper released during the Clone Wars line.  I'm certain of that.  But you should know better than I, being that you own practically every SW figure released by Hasbro, no?   ??? 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Nicklab on January 22, 2009, 10:21 PM
If it's the Order 66 version I may buy it.  But the whole reissue thing is getting old to me.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: JediJman on January 22, 2009, 10:24 PM
I saw this exact same thing at my Target.  The Snowtrooper is not in the case it's supposed to be.  It's either late, or maybe as I kind of suspected early on, it will turn in the TLC Hoth wave as a GH fig instead.  Or maybe it's just late.

There are actually a couple different versions of that case.  I think I saw a case on EE that didn't have the snowtrooper and that seems to be the one that's hitting most stores right now.  IF I recall correctly, there are at least two other cases that had the snowy, so hopefully it's just a matter of time before these start showing up.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 22, 2009, 11:38 PM
If it's the Order 66 version I may buy it.  But the whole reissue thing is getting old to me.

Since I have 26 ARC's from Order 66-2, I can confirm you, that the Yellow & now Red Arc of  TLC is the same, its not the Captain Fordo from " Hunting for Grievous pack".


Today I was at my 24 hr Warmart, I saw the pile of boxes & started to open the cases of SW BF, no sign of Snowtrooper, everywhere I go, its not there.

Its true all store have the stinky revision without the Snowtrooper.  :P

We have:

Basic Figures

 AOTC, Yellow,Blue,Green,White clone troopers,clean Sandtrooper, electronic RT-D2, 3-Droid, Red ARC Trooper Commander , Saesee Tiin, Luke Pilot, ROTS Clone.

Battle Packs

1) Clone Attack On Coruscant
2) Jedi Trainning On Dagobah
3) Jedi vs Darth Sidious

I just picked up: TLC Jedi vs Darth Sidious battle pack since I pass out last yr; SL Luke, SL Sandtrooper & Stass Allie.


Cant' wait to see the Snoweetroopee  :)...maybe in few weeks or months?  :-\
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: EpicGon on January 23, 2009, 01:27 AM
 Saga Legends snowtrooper ok, great acquisition, and cheaper than vtsc release

The Luke Pilot is the same from droid factory, nice paintjob, but they must have included his blaster.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Rob on January 23, 2009, 01:35 AM
Is he different than the versions released prior to that Target exclusive 2-pack?  He's certainly different than the Red ARC Trooper released during the Clone Wars line.  I'm certain of that. 

Right.  I've got that Order 66 one.

But you should know better than I, being that you own practically every SW figure released by Hasbro, no?   ??? 

It's getting to the point where I can't keep all of it straight anymore.  Partially because I don't pay as much attention as I used to, and partially because the changes are so minuscule sometimes that I don't notice them.  I'm trying to maintain a set of every sculpting change / kit bash, and every paint variation that is substantial enough to be really noticeable, or turn a trooper into another trooper.

And it's entirely possible that there are a few that I don't know of.

My strategy with Legends has been to just ignore them, but it seems like I may have missed a few that were worth picking up.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 23, 2009, 10:42 AM
Has anyone noted, that Walmart rised up the price for Basic Figures? Now I hardly would buy one at Walmart & Kmart ,TRU at less I have cupon discount.

Target is the one that rocks, basic fig is $6.94

The only thing is that Walmart has the vehicles at good price $19.99 not $22 or $25 & up like Target or TRU and ripping Kmart.

Now I would have a good battle in my mind to buy snowtroopers if I see them at almost $8 plus tax.... hopefuly Target get a good selection of them.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on January 23, 2009, 10:45 AM
I bought a black pauldron Sandtrooper the other day.  I feel so dirty.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 23, 2009, 10:49 AM
I bought a black pauldron Sandtrooper the other day.  I feel so dirty.

Huh!  ???  :)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on January 23, 2009, 11:12 AM
This is the first full line of carded figs since POTF2 that I'm not picking up.  Felt bad I "had to" pick one up.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on January 23, 2009, 11:58 AM
This is the first full line of carded figs since POTF2 that I'm not picking up.  Felt bad I "had to" pick one up.

Dont mind to trade? I have these but some incomplete http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Comerus%203/Picture111.jpg , you can open the pack, pm if interested.  :)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on January 23, 2009, 12:51 PM
no no - I'm a carded collector, plus I could care less for those POS figs.  No offense though.   ;)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 24, 2009, 10:17 AM
I've seen the new Sandtrooper on the pegs. Although I never bought this version, I think the one I made is just as good.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on January 24, 2009, 05:58 PM
I've seen the new Sandtrooper on the pegs. Although I never bought this version, I think the one I made is just as good.

Ya - but it would have looked better on a TAC card to go with the others where it should have been (at least in my case)  Oh well.   :-\
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on January 31, 2009, 10:23 AM
So far, this line seems to be doing very well with the exception of Plo Koon, at least in my area. It hasn't rotted on the pegs like it has in previous years. I think it all has to do with better figure choices. Anyone else seeing this line sell better than usual in their area?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2009, 09:15 AM
I don't think we've gotten new stock for awhile around here, but I'm not seeing much of Legends anywhere either.  I was really hoping to find the recently released Snowtrooper and pick up a couple more, but I haven't seen anything but CW figures on the pegs here (and Yarna/Breha).  I do agree though, this Legends assortment seems to have sold much better than the previous incarnations.  It even sold out here at Christmas, and haven't seen anything new really since then for the most part.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Theta 288 on February 2, 2009, 02:59 PM
Neither me, I have not seen the Snowtrooper and the new Droid factory set as well... but last week I saw that walmart is deleyed with figures on the pegs... so sooner of later we would see both hopefuly.

I only have 12 Votc and I feel its not enough... but that price $7.99 now, would be hard for me to build a large army of them if I get any, I know that Employees and people who go early to the store are the first that get it. I now its sick to feel that you need more.
 
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/HothSpy1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 16, 2009, 12:28 PM
Since apparently Hasbro is going to continue to force the Saga Legends line down our (and retail's) throats this summer and fall, I found myself wondering what figures could stand to be reissued and which ones should never be reissued again.  After seeing the Turbo Tank, I couldn't help but wonder why Hasbro hadn't released the 2005 ROTS AT-RT Driver figure again (in its original green/brown colors).  I can easily see myself buying another 3-4 of that figure to man the cockpit of the Turbo Tank, and would love to see a new, non-motorized AT-RT in the so-called "deluxe" assortment. 

It'd be nice to see some different figures get mixed into the SL lineup instead of the same old, tired choices over and over and over again.  Maybe even a kitbash like the AT-TE Gunner gear on an SA Clone body would work.  It's just that, at this point (and I can't believe I'm saying this given how the situation was pretty much the exact opposite before 2005), the market seems to be saturated with SA non-animated Phase I Clone Troopers and their respective officers.

But, given Hasbro's history, we'll probably get the same old Obi-Wans/Anakins/Vaders/Maces/Plo Koons/etc with the odd interesting figure thrown in for good measure.

Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on February 16, 2009, 12:35 PM
I'd like to see some of the post-OTC figures (Feltipern Trevagg, Myo, etc.) thrown in, VOTC Princess Leia, Ephant Mon, and the Felucian Warrior from the Force Unleashed Rancor. Any of those would be cool to have a second chance at. I really like the Felucian Warrior so it'd be great to be able to army-build it and maybe get some paint variations.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 17, 2009, 08:39 AM
I almost never buy Legends figs. But I think people are missing the boat with these. The reason you get so many Vaders/Obis/Anakins/Lukes, etc. is kids want a chance at those figs more often than just when a wave with them is out in the "regular" line. And as much fun as it would be to get more variety like some of the characters previously mentioned, if a little kid can get a Luke he wants and fall more in love with SW meaning the franchise will continue to thrive, I am all for that.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth Broem on February 17, 2009, 09:12 AM
I am kind of surprised they do not throw out a VOTC Han or Luke in these Legends/Greatest Hits lineups.  Especially when they keep adding Saesse Tiin to the mix each time.  No big deal but just interesting. 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2009, 09:18 AM
I am kind of surprised they do not throw out a VOTC Han or Luke in these Legends/Greatest Hits lineups.  Especially when they keep adding Saesse Tiin to the mix each time.  No big deal but just interesting. 

That is exactly what bothers me about the Legends lineup.  It seems like its been essentially the same for the past few years, and I'd like to see a few more "ultimate" OT figures get added to the mix.  Whether it is through Legends or with the "Greatest Hits" figures that ship alongside certain waves, I'd like to see figures like VOTC Han, Luke, Leia, Early Bird Chewie, Stormtrooper, and others ship in this lineup as well.  Its great seeing the Scout Trooper, and now the Snowtrooper (although I haven't seen any yet) - but I'm hoping to see more if they aren't going to release them in other places.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 17, 2009, 09:22 AM
I'd complain if the line wasn't selling though, but the line seems to be doing well enough.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on February 17, 2009, 10:35 AM
I'd complain if the line wasn't selling though, but the line seems to be doing well enough.

I can't even tell unless I went through peg by peg to check.  All three lines are just jumbled together EVERYWHERE I go.  Not that I'm complaining though.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 18, 2009, 09:13 AM
Same here, but when I look for new figures, I usually do have to check to make sure I'm not buying a Legends figure.  :P
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on February 20, 2009, 10:57 AM
Found a single SnowTrooper in Scotia NY.

I think this line does well, just wish they would incorporate more of the HTF figs from the previous year.  That way if you didn't get the Evo trooper or something, you'd be able to find it later on.  Overall, its a good concept though, kids always want to be able to get R2 or Chewie and I have picked up quite a few Sandtroopers over the last year, simply because I liked the figure and it was available, I might not have bought anything if it was only new releases on the pegs.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 4, 2009, 08:28 AM
I see a new assortment (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_sku=SWHB09SLW3R1&rid=CJADPL00001) of Legends - or at least one I hadn't previously heard about - is up for preorder at SWShop.  Some new figures included in this grouping are the CW Quad Gunner, and Han and Chewie with Mynock Hunt masks.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 4, 2009, 09:14 AM
Wow, POTJ Bespin Han. That's old.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 4, 2009, 09:23 AM
Wow, POTJ Bespin Han. That's old.

Yeah, I was a little surprised to see that figure as well.  Its actually one of my favorites of the modern line, but it is starting to seem outdated by today's standards (mainly the articulation).  I keep hoping Hasbro will come out with the "ultimate" re-do of this version of Han soon, but it seems we'll have to wait at least another year.  It sometimes seems like Hasbro is saving at least one version of those main characters to do later (Bespin Han, Hoth Luke, Hoth Leia, etc.).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth Broem on March 5, 2009, 12:18 AM
I would actually buy the Evo Maul if they repacked it.   For some reason it seems Hasbro always repacks that Maul with the Sith Speeder.  At least I think it's that version?  They repack the SA Snowtrooper, Shocktrooper, 501st, Biker Scout, Sandtroopers, etc.  But when it comes to Maul they go with an inferior version.  I mean it's allright but with all the emphasis on SA stuff lately it just seems odd to me. 
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Matt R. on March 12, 2009, 06:18 AM
Wow, POTJ Bespin Han. That's old.

I still like the POTJ Bespin Han Solo, I am not going to get this figure because I already have 2 of them and I made my own Mynock hunt Han.   I am going get Mynock Hunt Chewie (you can't have too many EB Chewie)

I would have pick better choices like Pablo-Jill, Sio Bibble, Feltipern, Myo and Harder to get figs, VOTC  Leia, VOTC Lando, VOTC Han, VOTC Chewie.

Speaking of VOTC Han, didn't hasbro say he was coming in one form or other this year ?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2009, 09:24 AM
Wow, POTJ Bespin Han. That's old.

I still like the POTJ Bespin Han Solo, I am not going to get this figure because I already have 2 of them and I made my own Mynock hunt Han.   I am going get Mynock Hunt Chewie (you can't have too many EB Chewie)

I would have pick better choices like Pablo-Jill, Sio Bibble, Feltipern, Myo and Harder to get figs, VOTC  Leia, VOTC Lando, VOTC Han, VOTC Chewie.

Speaking of VOTC Han, didn't hasbro say he was coming in one form or other this year ?

I've always been a big fan of the POTJ Bespin Han as well, although I can't wait for it to get then "all-new, ultimate" treatment at some point (hopefully soon).  I thought Hasbro had said that the VOTC Han was coming in some form (I think it was last year even), and that's why he was "taken off the ballot" in the last fan vote.  Its really a shame that more of those VOTC figures haven't seen a re-release (or released more often).  I have a couple of that Han, but I'd gladly buy a few more if they put it out in the Legends or even as a "Greatest Hit" alongside the next ANH wave.  It sounds like there is a Han rumored/confirmed for the next wave, so I don't know if it will utilize this sculpt or not.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on March 12, 2009, 11:40 AM
It sounds like there is a Han rumored/confirmed for the next wave, so I don't know if it will utilize this sculpt or not.

Hopefully it's VOTC Han with a medal. :)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on March 12, 2009, 11:52 AM
Anyone else seeing a derth of Saga figures?   There is a TRU near me with about a dozen Plo Koon, but that's the only Saga Legends figures I've seen lately, at any of the 3 Targets and 4 Walmarts that I've been to in the last couple weeks.

The Snowtrooper wave hit, and then was gone and I haven't seen anything since.  Is it just a coincidence of the stores I'm visiting, or is a larger trend?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on March 12, 2009, 11:56 AM
It sounds like there is a Han rumored/confirmed for the next wave, so I don't know if it will utilize this sculpt or not.

Hopefully it's VOTC Han with a medal. :)

I know it's off-topic for this thread, but in a recent Q&A answer (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2009/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-7.html), Hasbro squished the Yavin IV Han in 2009 idea/rumor...

An Imperial/Academy Han would be interesting and there is comic reference for it; the chances this one could come to light some day in comic form are slight but not out of the realm of possibility. The other two [new Yavin IV Medal Ceremony and new Mynock Cave/Mechanic Han Solo] are likely over the next few years. They may not be in the lineup any time soon but they remain good figures to upgrade.

So, they say eventually, but not "any time soon" (unless of course, for some reason, they are "misdirecting" us again).



Is it just a coincidence of the stores I'm visiting, or is a larger trend?

Target here is still getting new stuff.  My local store put out new cases last night (Snowtrooper revision cases).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 12, 2009, 12:11 PM
Wow, POTJ Bespin Han. That's old.

I still like the POTJ Bespin Han Solo, I am not going to get this figure because I already have 2 of them and I made my own Mynock hunt Han.   I am going get Mynock Hunt Chewie (you can't have too many EB Chewie)

I would have pick better choices like Pablo-Jill, Sio Bibble, Feltipern, Myo and Harder to get figs, VOTC  Leia, VOTC Lando, VOTC Han, VOTC Chewie.

Speaking of VOTC Han, didn't hasbro say he was coming in one form or other this year ?

I've always been a big fan of the POTJ Bespin Han as well, although I can't wait for it to get then "all-new, ultimate" treatment at some point (hopefully soon). 

Didn't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the Bespin Han as well. I'm just a little surprised it wound up back in production. I'm also hoping for an upgrade as well though.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2009, 12:58 PM
Anyone else seeing a derth of Saga figures?   There is a TRU near me with about a dozen Plo Koon, but that's the only Saga Legends figures I've seen lately, at any of the 3 Targets and 4 Walmarts that I've been to in the last couple weeks.

The Snowtrooper wave hit, and then was gone and I haven't seen anything since.  Is it just a coincidence of the stores I'm visiting, or is a larger trend?

It depends on the store, but we usually do most of our shopping at Target - and there hasn't been much of the Legacy figures there in awhile (aside from a couple remaining Yarnas).  There has been plenty of Legends and Clone Wars stuff going through there it seems though.  I've seen Legacy Wave 5 at TRU (and now they are gone), and they've stocked a couple of times at WM (sold through once, but they're packed to the gills again now).

As far as the Han figure, I'm wondering which one we'll get.  There has been one "confirmed" for the 2nd ANH wave, right?  I thought I remembered that from a Q and A, and like Jeff mentioned above they pretty much said we aren't getting the Yavin one.  We just got the Stormtrooper one, and the "Gunner" version from TAC (and the Falcon), so I'm not sure what else is left.  Like I've said though, I'd be fine with a straight repack of the VOTC version.  That's one of the best figures of the entire line to me, and it could stand for a re-release.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on March 12, 2009, 01:06 PM
I know it's off-topic for this thread, but in a recent Q&A answer (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2009/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-7.html), Hasbro squished the Yavin IV Han in 2009 idea/rumor...

That guy at Han's Hideout is always asking questions about Han Solo....
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: iFett on March 18, 2009, 01:31 PM
Why are we getting repacks in the Legacy line?  Shouldn't the bottom 4 (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Whats_Next_For_The_Legacy_Collection_121810.asp) be in the Legends line? 

What's going on here  ???
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on March 18, 2009, 01:34 PM
It's confusing to say the least. They're even called out as BAD figures so I don't get it either unless they're looking for wave filler through the package switchover.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jeff on March 18, 2009, 01:52 PM
The reason that these four figures are in the Droid Factory line is that they are "repacks for collectors" and not "repacks for kids", which is what the Legends line is intended to be. 

According to Hasbro, "repacks for collectors" are figures that some collectors may have missed the first time around or weren't able to buy multiples of because they were previsouly part of a larger box set (like Battle Packs or Evolutions sets). 

Don't get me wrong, they know kids will buy Anakin and Jango figures, but these four are included in the Droid Factory line because they are primarily SA figures with good "fan cred" (whatever that means). 

Expect to see more repacks happen in the main Droid Factory line as they try to help the bottom line with some extra cash from the carded collectors by putting out more repacks like this - for sure you'll see the SA Biker Scout in the RotJ wave and potentially a few more according to Hasbro.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 18, 2009, 02:33 PM
I'm ok with this personally...  I'd like more ROTS Pilots gladly.  It's also nice to see more creative ways to get droid parts out, as to me personally I'd like to complete a lot of the random droid parts I have.  It'll make droid part trading a little easier and perhaps a little more likely to complete extras you've got.  That's a good thing to me...

I'm wondering if Jango's a little less purple by the way?  He seems more true to the movie...  If that's the case, that's an easy buy for me.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jayson on March 18, 2009, 02:42 PM
That would be a welcome change Jesse, but I think it's the same color as the previous TAC/TLC Evo releases.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 18, 2009, 03:05 PM
Yeah, GH's pics seem to imply that.  Oh well...  Guess when they recolor and re-release him I'll just buy it then. ::)  Ya know it's gonna happen.

Maybe his range finder will move with that release at least.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on March 18, 2009, 03:58 PM
He's being re-released in the Greatest Hits line as well as the Target Arena 2-packs. One of them is bound to be different from the original (hopefully).
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2009, 02:47 AM
I truly hope so, as that color still disappoints me on anotherwise outstanding figure.  Correcting the color would only leave me with disliking his holsters being "loose" on his thighs instead of strapped down.  Too many Han's have that same issue.

Every holster should be like the new Bespin Luke's.  It's perfection!
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on March 19, 2009, 11:06 AM
When Hasbro repacks a figure like the Jango.  Do the start a whole new production run of this figure, or is it the case that they made X million figures and only sold half in the Evolution sets, now they are inserting the rest into single cards.

Just wondering if they have these already completed, or if they have the ability to correct something like this.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on March 19, 2009, 11:49 AM
I truly hope so, as that color still disappoints me on anotherwise outstanding figure.  Correcting the color would only leave me with disliking his holsters being "loose" on his thighs instead of strapped down.  Too many Han's have that same issue.

Every holster should be like the new Bespin Luke's.  It's perfection!

Yeah, it's one of my favorite figures but there's undoubtedly room for improvement.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2009, 02:20 PM
To the best of my knowledge it's a new production run, but under the same "orders", so the figure doesn't change.  It takes specific requests/orders toc hange things, which often doesn't happen I guess.  Just my understanding of things anyway, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: EpicGon on April 8, 2009, 01:28 PM
a small wish list for saga legends

1. Boba Animated Debut
2. Evo Boba (legacy of the fett)
3. Obi Wan Kenobi tlc anh
4. Vtsc Bespin Luke
5. Dark trooper (potf2)
6. dark trooper (bad tlc)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Keonobi on April 8, 2009, 02:17 PM
I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen the Galactic Marine or Airborne Trooper molds reused in the Saga Legends line.

But that's a nice list EpicGon, it does contain the one A character that Hasbro mentioned (Luke).  I could see each of those figures flying off the shelf.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on July 18, 2009, 06:50 PM
Just found Han and Chewbacca at Target with all their mynock huntin' gear.

(http://www.echobaseforums.com/stuff/chewhan.jpg)

Oh and they fixed Chewbacca, now it's the VOTC version instead of the stupid looking TLC sandstorm version with the blowing hair and bandage. ::)
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 18, 2009, 08:53 PM
Nice find David.  Great news about the Chewbacca!

Is it the POTJ Bespin Han?  I'm 99% sure from the pic but it's kinda hard to see.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: David on July 18, 2009, 09:33 PM
Is it the POTJ Bespin Han?  I'm 99% sure from the pic but it's kinda hard to see.

Yep.
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 19, 2009, 09:52 AM
Hey David - did you happen to notice if the Shocktrooper and/or Plo Koon on the pegs when you found these?

Also - what numbers are these two? Are they SL#15 & SL#16?
Title: Re: The Return of Saga Legends
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 19, 2009, 10:57 AM
Then I wasn't crazy. I could have sworn I saw newish Saga figures on the pegs.