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Community => JD Sports Forum! => Topic started by: Morgbug on September 24, 2008, 10:55 PM
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League ID: 11828
Password: berry
League URL: http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/11828
Blah, blah, frickin' blah. Info is at the site, sign up if you want. Got comments? Keep 'em to yourself, I really don't care anyway. :-*
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In.
Same deal as Hockey though - by sheer coincidence that Wednesday is next time that Marin is flying home for a long weekend - could you move it back to Tuesday?
Oh, and for ****'s sake, next time check with me in advance? Mmmmmmmmkay?
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How about I just delete the league and let you be commissioner?
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I better get a ******* wedding invitation, even if it ends up being something small or a civil ceremony. Cuz frankly I'm a little pissed at Marin right now. ;)
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In all seriousness, thanks Brent.
I didn't think it worth mentioning because Fantasy Basketball wasn't even on my radar, and what are the odds of that happening twice?
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In.
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Draft time changed to the Tuesday, same crappy time for East coast participants and too early for those on the west coast. Closer to ideal for those of us landlocked souls.
And no worries Rob, but I am serious about the invitation. ;)
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I want in on any weddings, and in return when I wed I'll reciprocate. 3 lb. stuffed lobsters. You won't want to miss it.
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i'm in.
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We're light in roundball teams right now, need at least 3 more and can take as many as seven more.
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I'm in as well. I forgot to join the NFL one this year, so I'll be in for hoops.
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Excellent news Brian, welcome back. Could still use two more to hit an 8 team minimum. More are welcome too, any newbs wanna join?
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I'll post an announcement in Watto's.
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I'm in! I'm a sophomore in this league now, so I hope to improve upon last year's results. May The Force Be With Me.
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In.
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I'm in if you still need people.
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If you'd like, we still have room.
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See you tomorrow night at the draft kiddie-poohs.
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dang... i can't believe i missed the draft. i am pretty happy with many of my players, but i don't think i would have selected any of the guys on my bench.
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Yeah, I missed the draft as well, but I'm fairly happy with my picks. Of course, I think I have a decent team every year for the most part, and never do all that well :).
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I really thought you were there Brian, especially when right after my pick your bot grabbed Garnett. LOL.
As for my team, I really don't know what to think. It's smaller than I think I'd want but I'm really happy with some aspects. I did completely get the first two guys I wanted when I saw where I was drafting, so that was really nice. Pretty happy with big Al in round three as well. Then it gets a lot more iffy. I need good years out of Kenyon Martin and Horford if I'm going to compete. That's risky.
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Yeah, I had planned on being there but got distracted with the kiddo and totally forgot. I had Garnett ranked first I believe, just hoping I'd get him - but I was sort of surprised when I did. I'm pretty happy with my big men (Garnett, Howard, Duncan, 'Sheed), but I probably could have done significantly better in other areas.
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I've got no idea what to make of my team. Most of the time the guys I was hoping would slip a pick or two didn't. So, I ended up drafting a lot of guys I'm not very familiar with based on projections and a look at last year's numbers. That's what I get for not following basketball all that closely though.
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Well as football always proves there is a huge luck component from year to year in any sport. If your guys stay healthy (cough*McGrady*cough) then you're in good shape. If not, buh-bye.
Brian, maybe you and I should talk. Nine of my thirteen guys are eligible at one or the other guard position. Not sure what I was thinking but I seem to be potentially loaded at the PG/SG slots. Mind you those last 3-4 rounds are just drafting for potential high returns more than anything else. I only drafted Derrick Rose in case he ends up replacing Hinrich and I can needle Dressel about it. ;)
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Brent, I waited too long to draft a PG, so if you've got a decent one you want to part with and there's something reasonable on my roster that you want, let me know.
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I'll take a look. :)
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I only drafted Derrick Rose in case he ends up replacing Hinrich and I can needle Dressel about it. ;)
Yeah I'd be pretty pissed if I had to drop my 5th bench player that would be the 1st or 2nd player I cast off when I see free agents I want anyhow.
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That much faith in Hinrich? LOL.
I know what ya mean though, those last 3-4 draft picks are immediately disposable. Still, Rose having that 30 point game (granted in preseason) is awfully interesting. I feel the same way about Posey, I think subconciously I only drafted him because I didn't have a Celtic (former) on my roster anywhere at the time.
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That much faith in Hinrich? LOL.
Zero. No faith whatsoever.
I could replace him with 20 guys off waivers right now and not miss him. He was completely insignificant to my strategy, and merely serves as a 98 degree mass of protoplasm for my bench, for the 1st 5 games until I see what the Rose-Hinrich playing time situation looks like.
I am excited about my team, and think it's the best one I ever drafted. I've got the rock solid core of Nash who anchored my previous 2 championship squads, with Nowitzki, Yao, Kidd supplemented with high upside youngin's Durant, Beasley, Thomas and Mayo. And of the young ones, I likey what I've seen in preseason.
We'll see how this unfolds but I'm likely to make Hinrich available for you by mid-November :D
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You'll probably be fine, but the fountain of youth crap is going to have to wear off eventually for Nash.
Kidd did squat for me last year, but then again he was stuck in NJ for most of the season, and then uncomfortable in a new situation for the last part. I thought about picking him up again this year, but obviously decided to pass. I have a bad habit of not drafting players after they screw me up the year before.
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Y'know, I had Durant on my roster last year and pretty much never played him. That's last year of course and he's a year bigger and better, so you may be right there. But I just don't have much faith in him. Beasley/Mayo/Thomas are pretty speculative too. Yeah, performing well for the most part but if we're going based on preseason performances, Rose is a stud too. But they are late rounders, so no harm, no foul regardless of what happens.
Nash will probably be as good as he ever is. Too much speculation on him dropping performance and I just don't think it will happen. I'd have taken him too, but I'll be ok with Iverson instead. Kidd I do wonder about slowing down though.
Nowitzki is a stud with across the board numbers, no question. I could've taken him or Garnett instead of Brand and been as happy. Jeez, I'd have been happy with Marion as well.
Yao, not so much. He scares me like McGrady scares me (but we're talking about 3rd vs 9th round). The potential is absolutely awesome, but at what point during the season does he miss 25 games? He's a better pure center than anyone I have no doubt, but too iffy for me. I don't see myself ever drafting Yao, at least not until he lasts a whole season (mind you Camby had the same rap last year too).
If I had to pick a "best draft" team from the start I'd probably go with Scott's. Davis/Artest/Allen are a bit iffy in that they might underperform, but I wouldn't count on it. Stoudemire/Lewis/Gay are great, plain and simple. Dalembert should be up for a much better year and if not, Oden could be ROY (if he still qualifies). Stojakovic is nice for the bench, Ginobili when he comes back and even Prince as a late pick is really nice.
As for Hinrich, I think I'll be ok without him, but thank you most kindly for the generous offer.
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Yao, not so much. He scares me like McGrady scares me (but we're talking about 3rd vs 9th round). The potential is absolutely awesome, but at what point during the season does he miss 25 games? He's a better pure center than anyone I have no doubt, but too iffy for me. I don't see myself ever drafting Yao, at least not until he lasts a whole season (mind you Camby had the same rap last year too).
i had mcgrady the past 2 years. he played plenty to be worth it to me. yao on the other hand i picked up in a trade after he sat out forever and he never played worth a damn the whole rest of the season. i don't think i would pick him.
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Yao, not so much. He scares me like McGrady scares me (but we're talking about 3rd vs 9th round). The potential is absolutely awesome, but at what point during the season does he miss 25 games? He's a better pure center than anyone I have no doubt, but too iffy for me. I don't see myself ever drafting Yao, at least not until he lasts a whole season (mind you Camby had the same rap last year too).
i had mcgrady the past 2 years. he played plenty to be worth it to me. yao on the other hand i picked up in a trade after he sat out forever and he never played worth a damn the whole rest of the season. i don't think i would pick him.
Well I would pick him. He's been good for 55 games for the last 3 years, and last year for those 55 games he was the BEST center in the NBA. 25 PPG, 2 BLK, 11 REB, 52% FG, 85% FT. Try finding that for a center. So even if you plug Yao in for 55 games at center and then your backup for the remainder, that's still an oustanding option. Trust me I know, I used Yao for 55 games last year and a combination of Kendrick Perkins and Ronnie Turiaf for the remainder. And I won.
The proof is in the pudding.
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Just when I was starting to think my team might be decent, I lost my starting PG and PF today. :'(
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And it continues.
Josh Smith is still out two to four more weeks with a high ankle sprain.
Tony Parker is still out with the same injury.
Shawn Marion broke his nose, missed some games with a pulled groin, and is wearing a protective mask.
Danny Granger got both of his front teeth knocked out in a game a few weeks ago.
Mehmet Okur's father is dying and he's in Turkey until further notice.
Leandro Barbosa's mother died and he's in South America until further notice.
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Would I be breaking any rule or etiquette if I asked in this thread or in the Yahoo league if anyone would like to trade for my player "X" with a player to help out in my team's weaker statistical categories?
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Not at all - work your trades any way you can and the league will veto it if there's anything inequitable.
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How does the vetoing work? Does it just take one vote to reject a trade?
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How does the vetoing work? Does it just take one vote to reject a trade?
I believe it has to be vetoed by majority of the league for the trade not to go through.
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Three vetoes are required to block a trade. It will only happen if a trade is seen to be unfairly favoring one party or another (stacking a particular players roster). Chris Paul for Delonte West probably wouldn't fly. Chris Paul for Chauncey Billups probably would, but I'd question the sanity of the player giving away Paul even though I'm a huge fan of Billups. It needs to be seen as benefitting both teams in some way.
The only trade thus far this year was Antawn Jamison for Brandon Roy. I was after a bigger body and offered up a point guard as I felt I had an abundance of them. It probably helped they went one after another in the draft too but I'd suggest it was a fair trade for players of reasonably stature. You can do the same with a two for one that appears fair or whatever works for you.
As Rob said, work the trade however you like and what works best for you. You can also just list players available by setting them to the trading block on your page. You can also specify what you're looking for and trade offers may come in that way. But this thread may get the widest response.
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Thanks for the info guys.
Morgbug, that trading block feature is exactly what I needed.
I haven't used Richard Hamilton this season and was going to drop him and add another player to help out my other not so good stats. I didn't feel like I was getting enough value in return on the drop/add, so that's why I posed the question. I was looking for some consistent help and boost in the 3pt, steals, rebounds, and/or blocks categories (probably in that priority too). My #1 concern should be my turnovers, but most of my team loves to give the ball away, and I'm not sure how I can stop the bleeding.
I've not done a trade before, so I'd love to give it a try...
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Can some more of my players get traded or injured please? I'm hoping the Richardson trade proves more beneficial than the AI trade was ::) Could my top two picks suck more? I don't think so. Note to self - it's ok to take Nowitzki. :-[
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Note to self - it's ok to take Nowitzki. :-[
You'll need to dig deep and summon the intestinal fortitude to endure 25 PPG, 9 RPG, a 46-50% FG, 90% FT, a few assists and about a trey, steal, and block per game.
It's really not for the weak of heart. If you want to be safe, you better draft Kobe, King James, or CP3.
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There goes Brand ::) :'(
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Well, seems we're very near the halfway point of the season, so I feel a need to complain.
I'll take full blame for taking Brand and injuries happen. I bought into the hype about him being a beast in the East and it never happened. He should be back this weekend but I'm finding it hard to get excited about that anyway. I'd be ecstatic with 20/10 but I don't think it's going to happen.
Iverson - I took him as a guy that would put up points, say 25 ppg or so. ::) I never thought of him as a true PG (that's why I took Roy/Miller). What I didn't see happening was a trade to a defensively oriented team averaging 90 ppg. Ouch. Iverson goes from second round scoring guy to also ran 7th rounder.
Speaking of trades, how'd you like to have a guy slotted for small forward that is the go-to guy on his team get traded into a slow down offense as a role player? Holy crap, could they make it any worse for Richardson? My fourth round, team scoring leader gets shipped off to the formerly high flying suns as a perimeter scorer where they weren't really short of that in the first place. Another kick in the nuts.
Traded away Roy for Jamison and I'm happy with the trade for the most part. In the end I don't think it makes much difference, it's just coming from a different position. Big Al Jefferson rocks, I love that guy. T-Mac is doing what I figured, being hurt, so no waste of a 9th rounder there. I can hope for more but I ain't holding my breath.
No, my hopes are resting with Mike Dunleavy and Monta Ellis :-X If, and a monstrous IF it is, they get back to their form of last season (say by the allstar break or so), all of a sudden I'm still in this. If that happens, I'm solid again and have to begin a long climb and hope some folks get hurt on other teams.
PG - Miller
SG - Ellis
SF - Dunleavy
PF - Jamison
C - Jefferson
Util - swapping in Brand/Hilario and some combination of scoring guards Bell/Richardson/McGrady/Ridnour/Rose (who I think ran out of steam about 1/3 of the way into the season)
I'm not liking the view from the bottom and I'll shoulder my share of the blame, but those two trades sucked arse. >:(
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Redd's gone for the year. Arenas is probably not coming back. Calderon, please stay healthy. David West, please get rid of those back problems.
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Redd's gone for the year.
I'll see your Redd and raise you an Elton Brand - gone for the season :'(
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Redd's gone for the year.
I'll see your Redd and raise you an Elton Brand - gone for the season :'(
Al Jefferson? :-\ :-\
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Sure, why not ::) Maybe we can add Mike Dunleavy to it as well.
Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
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(yeah, probably have been for a while but this cinches it)
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Yeah, I'm done. After practice today the Tpups announced Jefferson is out indefinitely with a torn ACL. I can't see any reason for them to bring him back this year, it would be stupid to do so. :'(
No news on Dunleavy at this point but really it doesn't matter to my team anymore.
Awesome stuff, I think I may just bench all my players and sit at the bottom of the league and see if I can't get the lowest possible score.
Draft recap:
1. Elton Brand - dud, but gone for the season with shoulder injury. Shoulda taken Nowitzki.
2. Allen Iverson - drafted him as a scorer, he gets traded to defensive minded Pistons (relative to Denver)
3. Al Jefferson - stud, gone for season with ACL injury
4. Jason Richardson - leading scorer on his team traded to the slowed down version of the Phoenix suns - some signs of life lately, but too little too late
5. Brandon Roy - traded for Antawn Jamison for more size, both are studs
6. Andre Miller - doing very well thank you, though many better PGs
Rest of draft matters little. Derrick Rose has been handy most of the time. Picked up Dunleavy and Ellis, the former hurt his knee last night, the latter has a sprained ankle. Both are the injured limbs that kept them out of the first half of the season.
Can't do much when you have little success until round 5. Good luck to the rest of ya, I'm concentrating on hockey. And golf.
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That's a bummer. Things you really can't control such as injuries and trades (especially ones that impacts the play and playing time of the individual) can really mess things up for a fantasy team.
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it drives me crazy that without hardly any injuries, i am still barely ahead of anyone.
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I think I just $uck as a manager. Take for example yesterday. Almost everyone I played (7 positions) basically decided to take a day off on the court. Richard Jefferson, who performed most positively, of course I sat on the bench. It sickens me.
Would anyone like to help me out with a trade? I need help in 3PTs, assists, steals, and blocks.
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Still no word on Dunleavy but......
ESPN rumor is T-Mac is done for season needing microfracture surgery on his knee.
Now, no great loss in certain respects given a 9th round choice, but I am getting a mite tired of this. Dunleavy is probably gone too, considering all the silence.
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Some word on Dunleavy - "out indefinitely" ::) The Pacers coach is quoted as saying he doesn't know what that means. Yeah, ok. :-X
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Some word on Dunleavy - "out indefinitely" ::) The Pacers coach is quoted as saying he doesn't know what that means. Yeah, ok. :-X
I feel for you when the likes of Al Jefferson or Elton Brand goes down. Those are real cornerstones of the team and makes things rough. I lost Yao and Kaman in February last year and barely limped to the finish line to hold on for the trophy when I should have won by 10-12 points.
But Dunleavy is really another story. He's not that valuable. He's really just a scorer (figure 17-19 PPG at his best) and doesn't really do anything else too well except maybe bang in some 3's. There's got to be 10 that I've claimed off waivers or are still on waivers that are more valuable than Dunleavy.
No doubt you got rocked and riddled with injuries on this team, this year. But Dunleavy really is just so easily replaced it hardly requires mentioning.
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the fantasy page shows kobe to be injured, but i don't see any reports of that? is it new news or a mistake?
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the fantasy page shows kobe to be injured, but i don't see any reports of that? is it new news or a mistake?
As far as I can tell he's fine.
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Arenas might start in tomorrow's game against Detroit. Wonder how he will fit in with the rest of team in a real game. I'm not sure why I even kept him on the squad this whole time. I could have really used another decent guard and some of his stats.
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You could have had Iverson. Oh wait, you said decent guard. My bad.
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Completing the trifecta of my first three picks - gone for the season: Iverson. Yeah, he's been 'gone' for some time and actually has been out since mid-late February, other than three games. Certainly his play didn't warrant a second round pick this year (biggest bust of the draft?) but this is the first time in fantasy sports I've ever had 1-2-3 go down and miss 20+ games each in a season. Looking forward to next year and thank goodness for hockey.
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Just took a gander at the stats overall and I don't think Dressel can lose, so congrats there. Real battle seems to be for third and very interesting it is. See y'all next season.
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It wasn't until 5:25 left in the 3rd quarter of tonight's Knicks vs Nets game that Wilson Chandler stole the ball from Brook Lopez, inducing JayDouble's 3rd turnover of the night and ending any possible scenario that could produce a tie for first.
And with that play, I completed the 3-Peat.
It was a great season playing with y'all and I managed day to day in the final month more than any other season to thwart JayDouble's late resurgence. Crazy stuff like benching Dirk Nowitzki and Kevin Durant in favor of Grant Hill and Boris Diaw to raise FG%.
I'll see you at the draft in October when I construct my "King Dressel 4peat" squad.
On to baseball, I owe Rob a little sumpin'...
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Congrats DR.
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Congrats DR.
Thanks! Nice job as well, tough fight right down to the last night.
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Congratulations Dressel on winning this season.
I'm trying my hand at Fantasy Baseball to keep me fantasy tuned until next basketball season. :)