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Title: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Kill_Solo on January 15, 2006, 10:26 PM
Check this out. It's a supposed presell of the 2006 VOTC. Tell me what you guys think.

2006 VOTC Presell on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-VINTAGE-FIGURES-2006-CASE-LOT_W0QQitemZ6029895612QQcategoryZ101610QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: exjedi on January 15, 2006, 10:48 PM
Those are the 5 that are scheduled to be released, so I would have to say it's legit.  I wouldn't pay that much for them, but I'm sure someone will.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on January 15, 2006, 10:56 PM
Well apparently we are getting these figure this year as reported on RS.

Wave 2 VOTC (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/actionfigure/The_411_VOTC_95623.asp)

We also have an online store up in Canada that is also pre-selling them.

Star Wars 2006 Vintage OTC Set (http://www.goldenagetoys.com/c274641p16743698.2.html)

This wave will include:

Biker Scout.
Greedo.
Han Solo (Trench Coat).
Luke Skywalker (X-Wing Pilot).
Sand People.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 15, 2006, 10:57 PM
I would say it's legit, that guy is a power seller with tons of positive feedback.  But still there's no reason to pay $30 per figure, especially before you've checked your retail stores to see if you can pick them up at $9.99.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Kill_Solo on January 15, 2006, 10:59 PM
Well freaking awesome! I knew about which characters we were going to get via Rscum, but I just wanted to see if the cardbacks were legit. I guess they are. Awesome, just awesome.

My prayers have been answered, a SA Greedo AND Scout Trooper! I can't wait till March!
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Diddly on January 15, 2006, 11:12 PM
Those cardbacks are kickass! Too bad we can't get a closer look at them. I guess the rumor that they'd be using the old Power of the Force cards with the coin didn't pan out.

Another thing, between the high basic figure prices and the VOTC Tusken and Scout Trooper, I know I'll be broke throughout a majority of the year.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: SilverZ on January 15, 2006, 11:13 PM
Did Canadian VOTC cards have English and French on the cardback?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Kill_Solo on January 15, 2006, 11:18 PM
Those cardbacks are kickass! Too bad we can't get a closer look at them.

I actually emailed them for bigger scans of the cardbacks. I am just waiting for a reply.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on January 15, 2006, 11:39 PM
Did Canadian VOTC cards have English and French on the cardback?

Only the Yoda card front on the upper right where it mention "Ages 4 & up", nothing on the backs.

From what I can see, the Cromalin in the eBay picture is in French on the front and backs of the cards and also where the character name is on the front.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Cromalin%20VOTC%202006.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Morgbug on January 16, 2006, 12:11 AM
Well those look to be bilogo/bilingual ::)  Frankly that sucks, unless that's a duplication of the original cardbacks, but I seriously doubt it is.  I don't mind buying a set up here to open, but for a carded set, I'm going to have to locate a US set >:(
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: MetalJedi on January 16, 2006, 01:17 AM
Give me those Biker Scouts!  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Ben on January 16, 2006, 02:18 AM
Oh, ****.

I expect much hemming and hawing over the lack of Biker Scouts in everyone's armies, and I will do my part to add to this cacophony.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 16, 2006, 03:16 AM
Count me in for messing up the Pittsburgh area. :)  Though finding Stormies wasn't exactly what I'd call "easy" for me.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on January 16, 2006, 03:21 AM
In order of my preference:

Luke
Scout
Han
Tusken
Greedo

I guess with Greedo the POTJ one is ok with me unless the articulation AND other items make for a truly outstanding figure. Depends where I am with the collecting budget at the time.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: JediMAC on January 16, 2006, 03:34 AM
Interesting that no one's mentioned this little tidbit from the auction description:

Quote
Collect all 5 Vintage figures and mail-in for an Exclusive George Lucas figure!

Is that listed on those cardbacks somewhere?  I don't see it, but they're pretty hard to read...  Rumor had it that the supposed "Treasure Hunt" figures would have the George Lucas offer on them.  Are these VOTC figures going to be "Treasure Hunt" figures?  Sure hope not...

As for the VOTC selection here, the Biker Scout, Tusken and Pilot Luke are certainly cool.  But there's many other figures that I'd have rather seen get the VOTC treatment than Greedo and Endor Han.  Hell, Greedo didn't even move in ANH, so he doesn't need anything more than some knee articulation, if you asked me.

I just hope that they get the Tusken correct, and make it the ANH version, without melding it together with the prequel version of the Tusken again (with the PT scarfs around the neck, instead of the OT breathing apparatus silver canister neck gear thing-a-ma-bob).  Get that right, and include both a Gaffi stick and a rifle, and I'll be a happy dude.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darby on January 16, 2006, 04:28 AM
The selection is really random, and I'm not sure if these are supposed to be a new assortment (does this mean we'll see more?) or those bounty hunt things.  But I love the idea of a SA Scout Trooper, even if I have to plunk down $10 to get it.  I don't love the idea of a $10 Greedo.  They can keep him.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Reid on January 16, 2006, 09:46 AM
Can't wait for that SA Biker Scout!
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Brian on January 16, 2006, 10:01 AM
I'm happy to see some possible further confirmation that these are on the way.  It seems to be legit, and I can't wait to see some official pics.  I know many people don't get too excited about Han figures, but I've been wanting a nice, re-done Endor one for awhile now, so I'm looking forward to it.  The Biker Scout is probably the most anticipated of the wave, and I'd sure like to get several.  I'm not necessarily counting on it though, I only ended up finding two Stormtroopers, and would have liked many more.  The Tusken and X-Wing Luke are welcome additions too.  I'm not overly excited about Greedo, like many others, but I'm sure I'll end up picking him up.  It would be nice to see bigger scans of the cardbacks, since we could get a little bit of a view of the figures themselves then.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2006, 10:25 AM
I tried to see if I could blow the image up and mess with the levels and sharpness and contrast...

I can't tell if they're new or not, but the Biker Scout's arm looks an awful lot like the POTJ arm....  Other than that, who the hell knows.  It'd be an awful lot of work to fake all of these just to make $150.00 or whatever this is going to sell for.

Not much to see but here it is:

Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: CHEWIE on January 16, 2006, 11:50 AM
I'm sure we'll get hi-res pics of the figures before the end of the month. 

Sounds like a nice wave to me, but I do wish they had re-released the Stormtrooper in addition to this line.

For myself, here's what I plan on getting, all to open.

X-Wing Luke - 3-4 of them
Greedo - 2 of them
Han - 2 of them
Tusken - 4-5 of them
Scout Trooper - 10-12 of them

 :P

Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth Broem on January 16, 2006, 12:14 PM
I will be happy just to find one of each.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 16, 2006, 12:17 PM
This is the worst kind of tease. A picture where you can't make out any detail. :P

If the bounty hunt thing pertains to the VOTC, which I hope it does, I hope that Bounty Hunt is just a clever name and does not mean that these will be chase. Also, think about it, these can not ship in the same assortments with the basic figures due to size.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: speedermike on January 16, 2006, 12:18 PM
Was the Stormtrooper really that hard to find for some people?  I wish I had known.  I bought two, but saw them sitting many times.  Can't wait to see better shots of these.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2006, 12:52 PM
The stormtrooper was tough in some areas, easy in others.  I found dozens and dozens of them - some people didn't find hardly any.

As for this wave, but me down for 2 of each and maybe 20 to 30 of the Scout Trooper depending on availablility.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 16, 2006, 12:59 PM
I'm definately going to do some building with the Scouts, but not nearly as much as with the Stormies. Around 20.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Kill_Solo on January 16, 2006, 01:22 PM
Well I got a response from rose_productions about bigger scans of the cardback and this is the response I got:

Hi there. Sorry I can't. The photo is supplied by HASBRO. I do however have personal scans of vintage cardbacks from my personal collection. Let me know if you're interested.


Oh well, I guess we wait for Hasbro.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 16, 2006, 04:20 PM
This aution would seem to put to bed the rumor of The Ultimate Bounty Hunt Collection and the Lucastrooper promo. However, that leaves EE's marks regarding "Chase" type figures. Could these be two seperate promotions? Or would confusion seem to be the order of the day?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: SilverZ on January 16, 2006, 08:05 PM
Yeah, hopefull this is theanswer to the BH mystery. If it's just five UPCs from the VOTC (for a figure I'm not convinced is cool) then it's basically a free figure, since that's just one of each figure to open. Everyone interested will probably end up with a couple extra mail-in figures by troop building the Biker Scout. That's OK by me.

And if this all pans out I'll just cross my fingers that they're just planning paint variants on the regular figures without changing the cards. That's tolerable, but still not ideal.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: jadesfire on January 16, 2006, 09:06 PM
  I don't mind buying a set up here to open, but for a carded set, I'm going to have to locate a US set >:(

Gotcha covered buddy  :D.
I'll only need one of each to open so that should get me the George Lucas mail-away.  Any ideas on what that will look like?  Flannel shirt???
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Morgbug on January 16, 2006, 09:19 PM
Plaid is fine by me, I only need one of George.  And thanks Beth :-* (we need a pink bracelet again too, last one broke ;))

The stormtrooper was tough in some areas, easy in others. I found dozens and dozens of them - some people didn't find hardly any.


They were definitely tough up here, showed up one week, gone within three days.  That was all, story over.  My luck was excellent for the first run as they were here just at the right time, but many other collectors didn't like me much :-X
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: darth punkinhed on January 16, 2006, 09:35 PM
I haven't bought a single Saga 06 figure yet. Just burnt from the ROTS line I guess. I'm sure I'll pick something up at some point. These on the other hand. I'll be all over these regardless on if they're chase or not.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rune Haako on January 16, 2006, 11:21 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_411_The_Saga_Collection_VOTC_96590.asp
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 16, 2006, 11:26 PM
I was reading the story over at Scum...  I like how they start it out like there were people saying this was BS...  Not sure where they got that idea or if they're just wanting to sensationalize nothing, but whatever.

Sounds like some cool figures...  Greedo sounds like he's as bad as ever.  I don't get him as a choice really.  Hell, a 21 back Fett with ESB colors would've been cooler but that's me.

Then again, how cool would a Death Squad Commander have been?  I just don't get their choice of Greedo at all but Hasbro seems to have this hard-on for that character.  At least it's not the CT figure repacked.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on January 17, 2006, 12:06 AM
Oooooooooooooh... Canadian Exclusive VOTC cards!   :D
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: SilverZ on January 17, 2006, 12:24 AM
They'll be rare!

And in French!
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on January 17, 2006, 12:29 AM
They'll be rare!

And in French!

Oui et une demande élevée de nos collecteurs internationaux! :-*
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Morgbug on January 17, 2006, 12:38 AM
Yeah, right.  They'll be a pain in the ass to get for those guys, but I don't see the price going up much. 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Famine on January 17, 2006, 12:41 AM
They'll be rare!

And in French!

Oui et une demande élevée de nos collecteurs internationaux! :-*

Yes they'll be in high demand with the international collectors?

My French is rusty... :-\

Kevin
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on January 17, 2006, 12:42 AM
Bablefishers!  >:(
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 17, 2006, 02:32 AM
The descriptions sound great to me. I look forward to these, if I'm still in the hobby at that point. :P
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: ruiner on January 17, 2006, 09:21 AM
I'm noticing red "X's" over at RS, were there pictures at on time of the figures?

Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth Broem on January 17, 2006, 09:28 AM
That was what I was wondering?  I don't know?  They probably have the pics I would assume or the figures themselves. 

I really don't mind the choice of Greedo.  I want that cardback at least.  I just don't know why they are not making some more of these figure?  If they are then that is an odd choice for only 5 figures. 

I was thinking SA Snowtrooper and Luke Bespin for sure.  Who knows?  Maybe they have some evolutions sets coming later?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: ruiner on January 17, 2006, 09:35 AM
I'm disappointed in two of the choices:

Luke X-Wing and Greedo.

I'm fairly happy with my POTJ Luke release and Greedo was done pretty well in the Commtech line - good enough anyway.

I, too, would have rather seen a Snowtrooper, Luke Jedi, Darth Maul (yes I said it), or a Death Squad Commander.

Come to think of it, a VOTC Emperor might be kind of cool too.

Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Brian on January 17, 2006, 10:33 AM
I'm really happy that we'll likely be getting more of these now, hopefully everyone will be able to find what they need though.  The Han (Endor), Luke X-Wing, and Scout Trooper are all ones I've really been looking forward to...and the Tusken Raider sounds like it could be great too.  Greedo seems like an odd choice to me too, but I'll probably pick it up regardless.  I just always liked this entire concept, despite the higher price and some figures that were a little wonky the first time around, and if I didn't collect anything else I think I'd still get these.  I wish they'd continue doing more after this, and maybe they will, but the lack of an ESB wave seems strange.  It seems like the movie most (or many) people like the best, and there are more than enough figures to do from the Hoth sequence alone.  We'll see I guess.  Time for a new update Hasbro :).
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Morgbug on January 17, 2006, 11:04 AM
Bablefishers!  >:(

Hey, I'm Canadian eh?  I had to take that stuff in school, doncha know?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2006, 09:19 PM
I'd have said I was disappointed with the Luke X-Wing too if it weren't for the fact he's so short, and can't sit.  Those two things kill me since Luke does sit, and he's not that short...  Compared to other Luke's, he's even short, and when you put him with the other XW figures he's REAL short (Dutch was a tad tall, so it just looks awkward).  So with that, I'm kinda happy to see a redo on him.  Not the highest on my list, but I'll be happy to buy him now, and probably some extras if I can.

I wonder if these are gonna be $10 deluxe figures like the last VOTC...  That'll be interesting to see.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rob on January 18, 2006, 01:13 AM
I'm disappointed in two of the choices:

For me there are no disappointing choices.  I'd love nothing more than to see every single last vintage figure put onto a retro card with a super modern sculpt.  It would be awesome to have complete sets of both the VOTC and the actual Vintage counterparts.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: SilverZ on January 18, 2006, 02:30 AM
To me, X-Wing Pilot Luke is just as iconic of a figure/costume as his Tatooine garb, and is probably more nostalgic overall for me because it was a favorite figure as a kid. Getting an SA one that hopefully finally does the figure right will be a big deal.

The Biker Scout is another favorite of mine from vintage. And my favorite Imperial costume from the OT.

I'd say I'm happier with the potential of both of these figures over any of the 1st VOTC with the exceptions of Fett and the Stormie.

I understand the reasoning behind Greedo. He's definitely the defining alien of the vintage era. The Tusken is sort of there as a runner up, but so I'm a bit confused why these two were lumped together right now, especially at the expense of an ESB entry.

I'm sure Han will be great. No complaints there.

I hope there's another round of five later in the year. Remember when Hasbro decided to offer Deluxe in springtime as the $10 pricepoint entry, then VOTC as the $10 fall entry? Hopefully the lack of deluxe figures is indicating that these will be a year round release now. I could see ESB and perhaps POTF being the two card focuses for a fall round.

I'd nominate Hoth Han, Bespin Luke, and Snowtrooper for ESB, then the Emperor and like it or not, Anakin Skywalker with swappable Sebastian Shaw/Hayden heads on POTF cards. Using a POTF card would also be a great way to rerelease the VOTV Stormtrooper.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 18, 2006, 02:38 AM
I too agree this is the ideal "Deluxe" for me at this point.  I like big $10 items, but at the same time the Deluxe line's fell flat most every time it's brought out.  It's some of the only widely available clearanced ROTS items, and even high quality Deluxe seem to fall prey to shelfwarming due to price...

A VOTC Deluxe line can have similar things happen to it, but certain figures are going to move at any price, and army builders would be the most likely to do so.  I predict Greedo and Luke to maybe sit, Han too has that potential, but I bet the Sandperson and Scout move like they're limited to only 1000 of each made this year.  :) 

For me, I think if VOTC takes over the $10 Deluxe roll I'll be fairly happy...  Not totally as the price still sucks for one figure, but I'll be somewhat more content than some of what we've gotten for $10...  Amanaman was hardly worth it, and craptacular things like the Maul w/Droid, Obi w/Droid, etc., are all $10 figures that simply were hell to buy if you got them.

At the same time, I'm bummed the Evolutions idea seems dead...  It's Hasbro's best idea in ages and they're canning it.  I liked VOTC overall, but I loved Evolutions 10 x more.  Too bad that's not something they're running with this year too.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darby on January 18, 2006, 04:37 AM
The only problem I have with the idea of VOTC taking over the $10 price point (which I kind of figured was happening; I think I started a thread on it a while back) is that it has the potential to split the line in two.  Assuming (big assumption) this is an ongoing line, that it's successful, then we can assume that what's happening this year will only continue:

No SA main characters/troopers in the basic line.  Look at TSC so far; they're nowhere, and if they are, they're repacks.  It only really gets complicated with the PT; now if Hasbro intends to bring in the PT this time around (it is the TSC after all) then I'd be all for Qui Gon or Mace on vintage style cards. 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: spiderpumpkin on January 18, 2006, 08:19 AM
I can't wait to find these.  These are good choices of some of the greatest Star Wars figures of the vintage line.  Greedo was a great choice if they do a good job.  The Biker Scout and Sandperson are going to be the best for army building. 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Nathan on January 18, 2006, 11:49 AM
The only one I really want is the Tusken Raider, in multiples (2 - 4, especially if they're $10). I still don't have a Greedo, believe it or not, so I think I'll pick him up. I may also grab a Biker Scout if I ever actually see one. The others I don't need.

I just hope that they get the Tusken correct, and make it the ANH version, without melding it together with the prequel version of the Tusken again (with the PT scarfs around the neck, instead of the OT breathing apparatus silver canister neck gear thing-a-ma-bob).  Get that right, and include both a Gaffi stick and a rifle, and I'll be a happy dude.

Aha! I didn't think anyone else noticed that detail. ;D
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jeff on January 18, 2006, 12:26 PM
I could see ESB and perhaps POTF being the two card focuses for a fall round.

I'd nominate Hoth Han, Bespin Luke, and Snowtrooper for ESB, then the Emperor and like it or not, Anakin Skywalker with swappable Sebastian Shaw/Hayden heads on POTF cards. Using a POTF card would also be a great way to rerelease the VOTV Stormtrooper.

For a possible ESB/PotF release in the fall, I'd love to see:

ESB - Hoth Leia, SA Snowtrooper, SA Rebel Trooper
PotF - SA Endor Luke and that "Glowy Anakin" idea Jared had with the swapable heads.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: John C on January 18, 2006, 04:40 PM
I will continue to support VOTC as long as I am able to find them.  I will buy one of each.  I might buy one or two extra of the Tusken and Biker Scout.  I would like to see ESB in the fall wave as well.  My choices would be Hoth Leia, Hoth Han, Bespin Luke and a Hoth Stormie.  They could throw in a Hoth Rebel Soldier too if they'd like.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Morgbug on January 18, 2006, 08:52 PM
The Tusken is sort of there as a runner up, but so I'm a bit confused why these two were lumped together right now, especially at the expense of an ESB entry.





I can't suggest really why Greedo would be in there, other than your reasoning but the Tusken makes perfect sense to me.  He's one of the first 12 figures, that alone makes it iconic in my mind.  I still hold hope they'll finish the last couple of figures from the original 12 in VOTC fashion as I have two vintage displays to put them on, one for the vinty versions, one for the VOTC (lack of foot holes notwithstanding). 

That said I don't know what they could do with a Jawa to make it VOTC quality, but the Death Squad Commander could certainly use the treatment and would be a welcome figure IMO. 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Paul on January 18, 2006, 10:43 PM
Put me down for at least a Dozen Tusken Raiders and a Dozen more Biker Scouts.  If that means I have to buy cases from EE.com or elsewhere, then everybody get ready to get a Greedo for Christmas.

If these guys are SuPer ArTiCuLaTed like they SHOULD BE (ball joints for every movable part) then I may go to 2 dozen each.

This will put me 4 figures closer to my dream list of figs that need Super Art.

But I agree with Brent...DEATH SQUAD COMMANDER really needs this treatment.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2006, 01:22 AM
"Super Articulation isn't defined by anyone, so complaining about it is stupid, blah blah blah blah"

Sorry, I'm just venting about some of the blabbering I read at some other site, from some of their assumed recent massive head trauma patients.    ;)

Seriously though Paul, I figured you'd be on those two.  I'd probably settle for a handful of Tuskens to complement the impressive army I somehow accumulated of all the other scultps.  Not to say I wouldn't take a dozen, but 6 probably would make me happy.

The Scout Trooper though...  Ugh.  I want I think 20.  I want less than my Stormie army, however if I threw my CT's into that mix then I'm thinking I may want 30 or so Scouts if I can find them in that kind of abundance.  Stan (who shows up here from time to time) said a new Speederbike may be around the corner.  Could it be made with this figure in mind?  I dunno.

I'd like a hefty Scout army  though as they were in fairly heavy rotation with Stormies on Endor, and my Stormie army really shocked me as to how many I had when I tallied them up the other day, so now I know I want scouts to go with them.

I wish Hasbro would recirculate these VOTC figures that are prefection throughout the line.  The sculpt is there, use it.  Stormies need out on the pegs, that Chewbacca could be re-used with both its headsculpts, Han should be re-used.  I'd buy Leia again if they maybe put a hood-up head on her.  VOTC sculpts are as close to perfect as it gets generally, I wish we would see these re-used more often than they seemingly want to.  I mean, Cantina Han again!?  ****.  >:(
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Ben on January 19, 2006, 03:21 AM
Thankfully, I won't go near as nuts on the Scout Trooper as I did the Stormtrooper. I don't see the need for a great army of Biker Scouts, but I do wish they'd leave the SA army builders out of the VOTC range and just keep them in the basic line.

Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth Broem on January 19, 2006, 09:01 AM
I was reading at the other site where these MIGHT be $12 this time around instead of $10.  Man if that is true it kind of stinks.  I mean $10 is kind of pushing it as is but now $12?  Oh well I'd still buy it which is probably what Hasbro knows but still.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 19, 2006, 09:33 AM
Sorry Broem, I've heard !11.99 as well. :'(

At least there's only 5 of 'em.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2006, 09:48 AM
Quote
I wish Hasbro would recirculate these VOTC figures that are prefection throughout the line.  The sculpt is there, use it.  Stormies need out on the pegs, that Chewbacca could be re-used with both its headsculpts, Han should be re-used.  I'd buy Leia again if they maybe put a hood-up head on her.  VOTC sculpts are as close to perfect as it gets generally, I wish we would see these re-used more often than they seemingly want to.  I mean, Cantina Han again!?

I couldn't agree more.  I was thinking about this the other day, and Hasbro really doesn't have Stormtroopers out there and available nearly often enough.  Aside from the one included with the glass set last year, we haven't seen much of them for awhile now.  We had them in the OTC/VOTC, but never packed out the way they should be.  Being more of an OT enthusiast overall, it bothers me that my clone armies are much more impressive to look at right now than the OT troopers, and that's mainly because they just haven't been really available at the basic figure level.  If it wasn't for those TRU $2 commtech figures a few years back, I wouldn't have many Stormies at all.  The VOTC Stormtrooper is a figure that could (and should) constantly be reshipped, and so many others from the VOTC line (like Chewie and Han that you mentioned) could be reused as well, and I hope that they are.  Like some have mentioned, I really hope they pack out some more Stormtroopers in these new waves.

As far as these rumored figures, I'm going to do my best to army build a bit with the Tusken and Scout as well.  I can't afford to go too nuts (especially if the price is $12), but I'd like to get a few of each.  I wouldn't mind seeing this be the "deluxe" pricepoint product, as was mentioned earlier.  Get a wave in the spring and the fall, 10-12 figures a year, and that would be kind of nice.  The way prices keep going up though, and if the figures continue to be amazing, I might have to re-evaluate what else I collect from now on.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 12:40 PM
For a possible ESB/PotF release in the fall, I'd love to see:

ESB - Hoth Leia, SA Snowtrooper, SA Rebel Trooper

This could potentially devestate Jesse, let's hope it doesn't happen.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 05:28 AM
I have to admit, I think I climaxed a little just at the thought...

But we all know I'm one of those guys that takes his toys too seriously....  I admit it, I masturbate into a Darth Tater.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: John C on January 20, 2006, 09:26 AM
 :-X
WHOA!
Information overload!!!!
 :o
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 12:00 PM
I've said too much!
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: CHEWIE on January 20, 2006, 12:06 PM
I have to admit, I think I climaxed a little just at the thought...

But we all know I'm one of those guys that takes his toys too seriously....  I admit it, I masturbate into a Darth Tater.

Yeuck... I don't even want to know what you do with your Spudtrooper then.   :-X

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rob on January 20, 2006, 12:36 PM
I've said too much!

That's you in the corner, that's you in the spot.  light.  masturbating to Darth tater.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: SilverZ on January 20, 2006, 01:02 PM
As far as these rumored figures, I'm going to do my best to army build a bit with the Tusken and Scout as well.

If he's really nice, I'll want probably a good group of 10-12 of them too. Scouts I'm in for probably the same if not more.

What's really a tragedy is that there's potential for the Tuskens to be great, and I'll end up wanting at least one more Bantha to go with them. I'll bet money that updated speederbikes are going to be a big deal one it's obvious the Scout can sit properly on one.

If there ever were exclusives that would make sense as a companion to the VOTC06, these would be the ones.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2006, 02:55 PM
What's really a tragedy is that there's potential for the Tuskens to be great, and I'll end up wanting at least one more Bantha to go with them. I'll bet money that updated speederbikes are going to be a big deal one it's obvious the Scout can sit properly on one.


I've been sitting on a second Bantha boxed for a long time now (pretty much all my stuff is loose) but once we move, it looks like it will be set free. 

I know I'm ordering a case for sure of the figures (retail price from the cases is around $13 CAD after shipping, within Canada, four dollars better than the previous release) but now I'm thinking a second case could work as well.  Like the stormies, I'll need a pile of Scouts for my Ewok-roasting diorama. 

I have to admit, I think I climaxed a little just at the thought...


Just like a woman...
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Clone On Fire on January 20, 2006, 03:07 PM


Yeuck... I don't even want to know what you do with your Spudtrooper then.   :-X

 :P
 

Oh I bet that thing gets buttered up and rubbed all over his body after a good toy hunt like the rest of us.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: CHEWIE on January 20, 2006, 03:29 PM
VOTC style speederbikes, I like that idea.  In fact, maybe VOTC styled playsets.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 20, 2006, 06:24 PM
I'm excited about the Endor Han myself; I'll probably get 3 for diorama scenes: one for the rebel fleet meeting (to replace a Cantina Han I have there), one with cloak searching for Leia in the forest, and one without cloak to defend the bunker position.  Oops, I need a fourth one for my Ewok village celebration dio!  As for the Tuskens, I plan on 3 to replace my 2 repainted ones, and probably 2 scouts for the bunker scene.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: CHEWIE on January 20, 2006, 07:25 PM
That's what I like to hear Daigo-Bah, multiples for dioramas.  Spoken like a true fan!

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2006, 07:34 PM
I'm excited about the Endor Han myself; I'll probably get 3 for diorama scenes: one for the rebel fleet meeting (to replace a Cantina Han I have there), one with cloak searching for Leia in the forest, and one without cloak to defend the bunker position.  Oops, I need a fourth one for my Ewok village celebration dio!  As for the Tuskens, I plan on 3 to replace my 2 repainted ones, and probably 2 scouts for the bunker scene.

As much as it is going to hurt the wallet I'll being doing something similar too. And these look so go on their cards I may get a MOMC set too. And then there is custom fodder... man it is going to be a rough year. :-\
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2006, 01:33 AM
I've said too much!

That's you in the corner, that's you in the spot.  light.  masturbating to Darth tater.

Hah.   :D
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Nathan on January 30, 2006, 01:25 PM
I hope we get some pics soon ... I wanna see the SA Tusken Raider.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2006, 12:05 AM
I wanna see all of them but Greedo honestly. :)  Han, and Scout are probably highest on my lsit but the Tusken would be a close 3rd... 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jeff on February 1, 2006, 12:21 PM
I wanna see all of them but Greedo honestly. :) 

Greedo hater!  Doun't u no thet Greedo wuz the man, d00d!!1!!   >:(

(that was just for you Jesse since I know how much you enjoy that...  ;) :P)


Anyway, I find my self think more and more about these...  I can't wait to see them and it's starting to cause some really high expecatations I am worried I won't see fufilled.

Luke - I'd love a properly scaled Luke with all the bells and whistles of Duth Vandar, including a scaled helmet with chin-strap.

Greedo - he better be dang impressive to out do the previous CT version (which was actually pretty good).  I'm hearing he might end up with a SoftGoods vest... not sure how I feel about that.

Tusken - man, this has the potential to be the best of the bunch. Gaffi stick, sniper rifle, SG robe/wrap... could be amazing if done right.

Scout Trooper - same as the Tusken.  He could be phenominal if he turns out all jointed up like the Stormie was.

Endor Han - heck, even if it's just the vOTC Han with a new head, proper color pants and new trenchcoat, I'll still love him!  That vOTC Han was so good, they can't really improve on it much anyway...
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Brian on February 1, 2006, 12:24 PM
I hear ya Jeff, I keep finding myself looking forward to these more and more.  Probably my most anticipated release of the year, if these turn out to be true.  It is starting to look more and more like they will be released though, and that's great.  The Endor Han and Biker Scout are two in particular that I've wanted re-done, VOTC style, for awhile now.  Like you said, they could almost just modify the original VOTC Han and get a pretty nice figure.  The Tusken Raider could turn out to be a real nice figure too.  It will just be interesting to see these figures, and I'm really hoping they'll make an appearance at Toy Fair.  I really enjoyed this line the first time around, even with the few stinkers that were in there, and I'm glad to see it might be making a return.  Now if they could just get around to an ESB (and maybe POTF) wave this year too.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: CHEWIE on February 1, 2006, 12:30 PM
I'm really looking forward to these, but I'm mostly concerned about the Han... I wonder how they will do the trench coat?  I think soft goods could be cool, but it might look way too bulky.  I think it could work on the Tusken really well though...

For the Han, for reference here's a version I made a few months ago:

(http://www.thecustomalliance.com/cook/112305ENDORHANSOLO.jpg)

If they can do it, I'd like to see it with a plastic trenchcoat, but to have two sets of arms.  So the trenchcoat can be on with trenchcoat arms or removed and put on regular arms... like those 21st Century figures.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2006, 03:10 AM
I'm a big fan of cloth when done right, so a GOOD fabric could really turn into a great trenchcoat.  I'm hoping for that then over a plastic coat, however the 21st Cent. Toys XD German (Ardennes Offensive) is probably the best example of HOW to do a trench coat when sculpted instead of cloth.

The material is very pliable and more a vinyl or rubber than plastic.  It's able to flex with the figure's poses, that's cool. 

The scout I hope for, in addition to regular super articulation like on Clones and whatnot, that there's ball/socket hip joints like the AT-TE Gunner.  I'm not hopeful really, but I'd like it.  That would set up a GREAT sculpt for a figure you could pose on a bike realistically for once. :)

Quote
(that was just for you Jesse since I know how much you enjoy that...   )

Do not taunt Super Happy Fun Jesse
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: John C on February 4, 2006, 10:24 AM
They need to go with soft goods IMO.  Sure, the plastic looks a little better, but soft goods allows for more posability.  I am really looking forward to the VOTC.  I don't really care much for the standard Saga line.  I would get into them more if Hasbro wouldn't have gone backwards on articulation.  They also could have redone some figures instead of crapping out stuff like an old Snowtrooper and a Jango that was garbage when it originally came out. 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 4, 2006, 11:18 AM
I agree with that.  Plastic molded coats do look better I think (like Chewie's custom up there) but it wouldn't serve much purpose to make Han S.A. if he can't utilize it.  Plus, a trenchcoat is fairly simple; someone like Bib Fortuna is best with the molded plastic since his robes are so intricate.

I also think Greedo was a poor choice.  How much better would a Death Squad Commander or if they wanted to keep it an alien, Ponda Baba, have been?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 4, 2006, 12:48 PM
I think Hasbro has come a long way with their cloth goods. I agree that plastic holds much more detail, however, there's something about cloth done right that looks cool. For example, the cloth on the evolutions figures.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Rune Haako on February 6, 2006, 09:04 PM
http://www.yodasnews.com  :o

(http://www.kid4life.com/lukehunt.jpg)

(http://www.kid4life.com/hanhunt.jpg)

(http://www.kid4life.com/greedohunt.jpg)

(http://www.kid4life.com/bikerhunt.jpg)

(http://www.kid4life.com/tushunt.jpg)

 
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Paul on February 6, 2006, 09:16 PM
I like em.  I have to stare at the pics a little longer, but at this point I'll say I like em. 

Not sure why Greedo got in there....


Rune Haako is my favorite JD member now....

Ok I've stared and enlarged the photos.  Looks like ball jointed Elbows for the Biker Scout...being VOTC we'll hope knee articulation too.

The robes and trench hide Tusken and Solo, so I will wait and hope.

Luke almost looks like he has GI JOE RAH type elbow/swivel arms.  Which is fine with me. 

Looks like the George L as stormtrooper giveaway expires November 30, 2006.  These things should be hitting retail when?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on February 6, 2006, 09:27 PM
(http://www.kid4life.com/hunt1.jpg)

Lucas in a Stormtrooper diguise, only valid in the US! Well ****adoodle!  >:(

Whaaa, they make a special helmet for that extra cowl!  :-X
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: MetalJedi on February 6, 2006, 09:33 PM
Wow Im stoked for these to come out. Least favorite is the Greedo. The X-Wing Luke looks incredible. Mark me down for at least 20 of those Biker Scouts as well.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 6, 2006, 09:34 PM
My thoughts regarding the mail in GeorgeTrooper:

Valid in US only.  Bite my rooster Hasbro.   >:(  >:(  >:(


As for the figures:

Luke and the Biker Scout look incredible.  But the soft goods are iffy on Han and the Tusken - too "poofy".
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: MetalJedi on February 6, 2006, 09:35 PM
Don't worry Jesse I got your back on the GeorgeTrooper.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: DSJ™ on February 6, 2006, 09:41 PM
Tha Biker Scout is going to be a hot ticket, Han, Tusken & Greedo... meh. Luke is not too shabby but that Biker Scout! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/drool1.gif)

Oh, and Hasbro blows chunks! US only!  >:(
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth Broem on February 6, 2006, 10:05 PM
I will get them all.  However, I don't really care for the Tusken Raider's robe or Greedo's vest that much.  Han's coat looks great.  The Biker Scout and Luke XWing Pilot look fantastic!!!  Now we just need loose pics.

I see the Gaderfi Stick but what is the other weapon with the Tusken Raider there?  A rifle I'd assume?
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 6, 2006, 10:21 PM
I will help any JDer's outside who would need any help to get this Figure.  Hopefully its easy to find the VOTC and hopefully Hasbro doesn't make a mess of the Lucas Figure.
Title: Re: 2006 VOTC
Post by: Jeff on February 6, 2006, 10:26 PM
Holy crap!

Luke has a saber hilt on his belt AND a helmet with chin-strap!

Endor Han = FANTASTIC!

Greedo = meh.  SG vest is OK, but I'll buy him just the same.

Scout Trooper - love it.  Wow, wow, wow.

Tusken - Rifle and Gaffi?  Too cool... gonna need quite a few of those now.  Will be interesting to see what he looks like under the cloak.

George/Stormtrooper - guess the rumors were true!  :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2006, 10:50 PM
Great to see the carded pictures! However, I'd like to see them loose. As with the first round of VOTC figures, they look a little iffy in the package. Also, it looks like both Luke and Han use the old VOTC heads. ???
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Diddly on February 6, 2006, 10:51 PM
I love them all!

Luke looks like a ball jointed Dutch Vandar, really, but it's still fantastic. I love the helmet paintjob!

Han looks meh so far, but I have a good feeling he'll be as good as the original VOTC Han.

Greedo... not much to say, but I'll be getting one since I never bought one before.

What needs to be said about the Biker Scout? ;)

Tusken looks VOTC-Obi-Wan-ish in that robe, but I'm sure it will still be a great figure.

I'll try and use the POPs from the extra Biker Scouts and Sand People I get to help our fellow Canuckleheads get the GL Stormie. :-*
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 6, 2006, 10:54 PM
Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but these really aren't so great.  

The likeness on Luke is not so hot.  The face sculpt could be much better.

The Tusken Raider cloak is way too bulky.

The POTJ biker scout was sculpted with  a pin head.  The head was too small.  This one is not much better.  Yes, it's going to FLY off of the shelves.  The articulation is better obviously, but that pin head sculpt is still hindering this figure.

I do dig that Han.  Nice job there.

Greedo's okay.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2006, 11:04 PM
I've been unable to load Yodasnews main page. Do they mention if these are general release, or Target exclusives?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on February 6, 2006, 11:09 PM
Do they mention if these are general release, or Target exclusives?

No, they don't say anything either way...

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Yodasnews.com is proud confirm via the below images what many fans have been discussing at length the last few months! And that is how to get your hands on the Lucas Stormtrooper figure and how it will be offered. By looking at the images below you can see that they will at least be offered on the VOTC figures, it will be a mailaway offer and it will be valid in the US Only and only until 11/30/2006 of this year. We blew up one of the stickers as well! Also enjoy the high resolution images by clicking of the smaller images below,  Big Thanks to Master Spy for the images!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2006, 11:14 PM
Do they mention if these are general release, or Target exclusives?

No, they don't say anything either way...

Quote
Yodasnews.com is proud confirm via the below images what many fans have been discussing at length the last few months! And that is how to get your hands on the Lucas Stormtrooper figure and how it will be offered. By looking at the images below you can see that they will at least be offered on the VOTC figures, it will be a mailaway offer and it will be valid in the US Only and only until 11/30/2006 of this year. We blew up one of the stickers as well! Also enjoy the high resolution images by clicking of the smaller images below,  Big Thanks to Master Spy for the images!

Thanks Jeff!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2006, 11:15 PM
Luke and Han are phenomenal (although Luke's helmet is way way too white)

Greedo is big time blah.  I'd much rather have seen a vest like Evolutions Anakin from Episode II (Pleather)

Scout looks great as well and my only fear is being able to find 3-5 of them

Sand People...we'll see, hopefully the cloak is not akin to Obi-Wan's VOTC figure...can't pass judgement until I open one up

Can I hear a here here for Wave 2? :-*
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 6, 2006, 11:32 PM
Really, for me this is almost a big *yawn* - not too excited about these.  Honestly, these could be a lot better, and the more I think about it, we're getting ripped off on the prices on these.  These are just regular figures that should be in the regular line... because of MOMC collectors Hasbro is finding ways to charge more.  The only thing (other than the price and the clamshell) that makes these different from the standards of figures these days are the enormous blankets they are adding for softgoods.  They are so oversized, it's comical.  There are only two figure in this wave that I think are worth the money on - Luke and the Scout Trooper.  I think if someone like me who buys the number of figures that I do in mass quantity feels like they're gonna save some money here, then there's others out there thinking the same thing.  Anyways, based on the pics, here's my assessmtent.

Luke - Nice to see this figure finally get the royal treatment, count me in for 2-3 for openers.  A very nice figure, I'm surprised it took so long for them to do this.

Han - I think this is comical... the jacket to me looks like it would almost fit a He Man figure.  So oversized... again, I think they screwed up.  I was hoping for a 21st Century styled plastic flexible coat with two sets of arms (especially with a $10-$12 pricetag) and they pull this crap.  Funny.  And people are enjoying it.  Oh well, more for the people in my area.  I might pick up one, might not.  Depends on how it looks with the coat off.  I'm just glad that I customize for God's sake.  It's because of reasons like this that I'm glad I don't rely just on Hasbro.

Greedo - Now this is just laughable, is this some kind of joke?  I know they want to redo a vintage figure here... but why of a proven pegwarmer?  And with a piece of cheap underwear for his vest?  Pathetic.  I'll get one, and burn that piece of crap vest and replace with the OTC version.

Scout Trooper - Another figure that it took years too long to get an upgrade on... looks like it will have nice articualtion, but I wonder how well he can sit on a speederbike... regardless, I want about 10 of him.  They should double pack this guy.

Tusken - Seeing that I already have an army of 20+ of these guys, and that this one looks like it was wrapped in pantyhose, I think it's a joke.  Enjoy it if you like oversized soft goods, but for me this looks like a pass.

 :P


Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 11:41 PM
These aren't the best looking VOTC yet - but I'll still load up on Biker Scouts.

I'm mostly excited because of the propsects of the line continuing.  Hopefully these will sell well enough that they keep going.  I know it's a long long way off, but I really hope they make the entire vintage line in this fashion.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: DSJ™ on February 6, 2006, 11:42 PM
I know it's a long long way off, but I really hope they make the entire vintage line in this fashion.

Droids & Brent's fav... Ewoks!  :D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on February 6, 2006, 11:51 PM
Luke looks like the clear winner in this wave - I think that's a ballsocket torso joint just below the white chest portion of the suit. Is the head the same as the first Votc Luke? Han's head sure looks like it.

I'll do the same thing as CHEWIE and replace the soft goods vest with an OTC one on Greedo. That thing looks ass.

I won't comment on Han or the Sandperson until loose shots show up. Too tough to call on card.

So, what are the chances of the mail-away Lucas Stormtrooper being done right, and being a retool of the VOTC Stormie, with the head being a ballsocket, so we can pop off the Luke and Han heads to make easy custom SA Stormtrooper Lukes and Hans?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SpudTrooper on February 6, 2006, 11:52 PM
really dig Luke X-Wing and Sandman  8) han's Coat seems alittle big

but really excited on the Stormtrooper Lucas  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 6, 2006, 11:55 PM
My question is how many proofs of purchase will it take to get the mailaway.  I need two of these to open one and keep one carded (assuming it's on a card...) and will be pissed if I have to open an extra set of 5 VOTC figures to get the extra proofs.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: DSJ™ on February 7, 2006, 12:00 AM
Good question Rob, it might be a bit of buying to get this JorgTrooper.  :-\

Hasbro = hook, line & sinker!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 7, 2006, 12:02 AM
Hopefully it will be something like 2 proofs and $X.xx for 'shipping' which will really be a purchase price.


Wait a second, who am I kidding - I'll have no problems with this once I open up a bunch of Biker Scouts.

Hell, I might have enough proofs of purchase to spread them around here with all you guys.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 7, 2006, 12:09 AM
My question is how many proofs of purchase will it take to get the mailaway. 

1,000 Jedi Master Points, of course.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: DSJ™ on February 7, 2006, 12:19 AM
Just like back in the days with the vinty line, send in X amount of POP's and here's your figure tho I think they send them out in a white mailer in a plastic Kenner baggie if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 7, 2006, 12:26 AM
My question is how many proofs of purchase will it take to get the mailaway.

I'm hoping it's just 5 POPs to get the GeorgeTrooper.  I've preordered a case (2 of each figure) in order to cover "one loose & one carded", which will also get me the mailaway (many thanks for the mention Robb  ;)).
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 7, 2006, 12:27 AM
My question is how many proofs of purchase will it take to get the mailaway. 

1,000 Jedi Master Points, of course.

 :P

I wish that was the case.  I've got about 8,000 of the ******* sitting around collecting dust because each time I bid on something during those stupid auctions I was outbid in the end...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 7, 2006, 12:38 AM
I've been unable to load Yodasnews main page. Do they mention if these are general release, or Target exclusives?

It appears there's a little more info from Yoda027, the site admin:

Also, they will NOT be Target Exclusives according to our source and you will be able to buy them at brick and mortar and online stores. Also according to our source as of right now (and they did say this part could change) they will be 2 per case in equal distribution.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Stim on February 7, 2006, 01:13 AM
My question is how many proofs of purchase will it take to get the mailaway.

I'm hoping it's just 5 POPs to get the GeorgeTrooper.  I've preordered a case (2 of each figure) in order to cover "one loose & one carded", which will also get me the mailaway (many thanks for the mention Robb  ;)).

Where did you pre-order from?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 7, 2006, 01:40 AM
Where did you pre-order from?

It's a CDN site, GoldenAgeToys.com (http://www.goldenagetoys.com/c274641p16743697.2.html).  Their prices are in CDN funds ($140CDN = $122US), but they do ship to the US. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ben on February 7, 2006, 01:49 AM
I want about five of those Biker Scouts. That figure looks great.

I hope those stickers with the mailaway are on the outside. I'd hate to have them on the inside since it would make the carded set look like ass, which pretty much ruins the idea of VOTC.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darby on February 7, 2006, 02:30 AM
Biker Scout: YES!!!!  About ******* time.

Luke: Looks fantastic.  Great job.

Han: Okay, coat's kind of bulky.

Greedo: Whatever.

Tusken: Way too poofy.  Disappointed.

The mailaway is very blah.  I don't think we need another Lucas figure, but I do like them going back to mail aways.  I loved them in the old days and I miss 'em.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2006, 03:11 AM
My brief early opinions...

-Biker Scout...  How can I NOT want 20 of these?  I have 40 some Stormtroopers so I figure I want a 20 Scout squad to complement them.  If they're incredibly abundant and/or clearanced or some such I'd consider more but the 20 seems a round number I could be happy with...  Man, the more I keep thinking about this I'll want more, but 20's a goal.  I set a goal with Stormies, I'll set a goal with Scouties too.  20.

-Luke...  Depending on his height, if he comes a bit higher than Luke SHOULD be I'd consider picking quite a few up for customs.  Articulation's looking sharp, I like the helmet...  I'd be ok with the original head being used since it met the time frame and wasn't bad to me in likeness.  He looks sharp though I think...  I wasn't ever quite "content" with the Dutch sculpt though, it's a bit big and a bit under articulated in the arms so I'm looking forward to Luke as some bit of fodder anyway.

-Greedo...  The pre-destined pegwarmer of the line I think we can all agree, but is he bad?  Not by a long shot.  Neither was Lando and there's about 12 at my local Toys R Us too.  :)  Lando was cool but pegwarmed because he's Lando...  Greedo is great looking, looks to have the best articulation...  I don't personally mind the vest much but it could be better.  I'm not a stickler for hating cloth, and since I have a dozen Greedo figures I can swap a plastic vest on if I really want to.  I may not though, as I have always found new places to put my old Greedo's...  Rodians abound in the films in those outfits with different colored vests so that's cool.  To me he looks good and I like that we're FINALLY getting his correct pistol with him and a holster too.  Other Greedo's are gonna just wind up as Jabba goons for me now and this one will be my "top" figure rendition of Greedo on my shelves.

-Sandperson...  The Tusken looks pretty sharp I think, and packaged cloth figures are tough to sit there and judge.  I know I've cut down the seams inside cloth and made it tremendously less bulky and sit better on the figure.  For instance Palpy's Evolutions figure has a slightly thick cloak that doesn't sit right immediately, so with some work I got it to look pretty great actually.  Same with some other robes so I'm not too concerned on the Tusken...  Plus the material appears to be a gauzey material like the Jedi women's skirts were in 2005.  I like that we get two accessories with him too, I just hope he is super articulated under the robes, unlike say VOTC Obi-Wan who was pretty shoddy actually.

-Han...  Personally I don't think Hasbro would have ever delivered the quality 21st Century does.  They wouldn't have given us two sets of super articulated arms that pop on and off the torso to show Han with the coat on and off.  We'd have gotten maybe a pre-posed set and a poseable set if we were lucky, so I'm not expecting that and I'm pretty happy we got cloth personally.   I just hope Han's SA underneath...  The head it would be nice if it wasn't a reused one since Solo looks different in ROTJ than ANH quite a bit but whatever.  I'm glad to finally have a good Endor Han coming...  So far Saga and POTF2 versions have sucked, so it'll be nice to have something new and better.  And again I can't tell what the texture and feel of the fabric is by looking at it.  It could be very easy to make it look ok on the figure when you open it so I reserve judgment on its bulkiness till I open one up.

As far as pricing goes, I'm not happy with $10 and I think these are $5 figures on $5 packaging...  Hasbro's gotta spend a little on these special cards and the clamshells afterall, but at the same time I'd really prefer these figures were basic prices of course.  Since that isn't gonna happen though, I'm more happy to get a GOOD figure out of this line that embodies what the line should be striving for in every figure.

-Good sculpt
-Good paint job
-Good accessories/features (where applicable)
-Good articulation...  And that is compared with other toy lines, not Hasbro's own idea of what they feel is "good enough" for us.

Now, the basic line is most of those most of the time, but articulation (and to a lesser degree, accessories) tend to fall short of anything close to "competitive".  It's tough to look at the local toy shelves and say Hasbro is delivering quality there...  I'm not happy to pay $10 a figure to get it, but I'm happy to get these figures and some (if not all) of them in multiples...  I just wish Hasbro would take a look at the basic line and really improve it too instead of having it fluctuate in quality like it does.  One figure's great, one is ok, one is flat out terrible...  You just never know what you're gonna get and at the same time Hasbro's releasing plenty of old figures on new cards saving a lot in the process and we see price increases with qualty cut-backs. 

To me then the VOTC is a breath of fresh air at a horrible price though.  It's what I want, minus the packaging, but it is costing a lot more than it should unfortunately. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: John C on February 7, 2006, 07:16 AM
I can't add much to what has already been said, but here is my opinion:  I can't wait to see these in stores.  The X Wing Luke is my favorite.  It's about time Hasbro made a good version of him.  Endor Han looks good.  The coat looks fine IMO.  Hopefully he's a clone of the VOTC ANH Han underneath.  Greedo, well, I would rather have had a Death Squad Commander in SA mode, but this Greedo looks good.  The Biker Scout hopefully has articulated knees.  Then he'll be the most sought after from this wave.  I just hope the hoaders and scalpers don't screw everyone else over.  I just want two.  The Tusken looks good, too.  The cloth can always come off if people find it too bulky, as with the Han.  I'll buy two Tuskens.  Bring on an ESB wave now, Hasbro.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 7, 2006, 07:22 AM
Who thinks we need a retooled Speeder Bike to go with the SA Biker Scout!!!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Hemish on February 7, 2006, 08:34 AM
Offer only good in the US.
Well F%^& you too hasbro!!!
Good to see that we acknowledge that there is a collecting community outside the US.
The biker scout better be packed  in solid cases , cause they are gonna fly
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 7, 2006, 09:14 AM
Is it just me, or does Han look like the first VOTC version with a new cloak?

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Xander on February 7, 2006, 09:24 AM
I was most looking forward to Mr. Sandperson.  I'm curious to see what style it is, and if there is some good articulation, I'm happy. Yeah I've seen better robes, or whatever you want to call it, burka wrap, but I'm just glad to see the VOTC card.

If the Biker Scout looks good out of the package and posed, then hooray.

Luke looks the most toyish of the bunch.

Han will be the one you can find on clearance.

Greedo, I can't refuse another Greedo, even if his vest is kinda stylish.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 7, 2006, 09:43 AM
Is it just me, or does Han look like the first VOTC version with a new cloak?



Nope the VOTC ANH Han has a more open, undershirt.

I dig the Greedo vest… it looks very 70s ish
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 7, 2006, 09:47 AM
Who thinks we need a retooled Speeder Bike to go with the SA Biker Scout!!!

Only if the hips are articulated like the Tank Gunners. ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on February 7, 2006, 10:53 AM
Is it just me, or does Han look like the first VOTC version with a new cloak?



Nope the VOTC ANH Han has a more open, undershirt.



Plus this one's sleeves go all the way to his wrists, the ANH version was a mid forearm type.

I just hope they didn't un-articulate the Tusken Raider with the rationalization that they gave us such a "cool" cloak.

Also remember when VOTC came out wasn't there rumors or even pictures of a Han Endor.  Perhaps this one has been in the works for 2 years now. 

At least the next couple waves are Prequel waves so I can skip most of them and save up for the Dozen Scouts and Tuskens I am going to need.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Bobafett77 on February 7, 2006, 10:58 AM
Is it just me, or does Han look like the first VOTC version with a new cloak?



I thought the same thing although I don't have the first version to compare it to.

I'm loving them all! I just hope there's enough of them to go around  :-\. The competition for the Scouts and Tusken Raiders is going to be FIERCE!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 7, 2006, 11:03 AM
Don't worry Ray I'll help. Help get 'em all that is! 8)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 7, 2006, 11:07 AM

Notice the shirt…

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/VOTChans.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 7, 2006, 11:14 AM
Can someone refresh my memory... is there an expected time-frame when these should start showing up?  It'd be nice if it was after tax time...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 7, 2006, 11:16 AM
I assume we'll find out this weekend after Toyfair
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2006, 11:21 AM
Very nice surprise to see these pictures today.  I'm hoping we get some loose shots at Toy Fair this weekend, then we'll have an even better idea.  Overall though, I'm quite happy.  I'm just glad that we're seeing this line continue.  A few less than stellar figures aside (from the first wave), the overall line is probably one of my favorite parts of my collection...and I hope that this wave does well enough that we'll continue to see more of these in the future.  Sure, I'm not crazy about the likely $10 pricepoint either, but if we get really nice figures, I'd rather have them that way than not at all.  I'm one that wouldn't mind seeing the majority of the vintage line made in this fashion too, even though it could/would get pricey.  Anyways..the figures:

Luke (X-Wing) - One of the best of the bunch, and I can't wait to get him.  The sculpt, articulation, and accessories all look great and worlds better than the POTJ version.

Han (Endor) - This was my favorite figure as a kid, and I've really been looking forward to a new version.  I think it will be great, and probably articulated just as much as the first VOTC version.  The trenchcoat might look slightly large in the bubble, but as many have said, its hard to judge figures like this one carded.  A loose shot will give us a better idea.  Either way, I'm really looking forward to it.

Biker Scout - Wow.  What else can be said that hasn't been already?  It looks great, and I'm sure its going to be hellacious to get a hold of.  Hopefully everyone can find what they are looking for.  I'd like to get 5 or so of them, but I wanted a lot more than the 2 VOTC Stormies I have too ;).  Hopefully he can sit on a speeder bike...about time for Hasbro to put one of those out alongside these, isn't it?  The figure looks great to me though.

Tusken Raider - It looks pretty good to me.  Again, we'll have to see about the soft goods.  It looks sort of poofy, but it might not be as bad loose.  I know that the VOTC Obi-Wan looked that way on the card, but mine looks fine standing loose.  I've always kind of liked soft goods where appropriate anyways, so I'm optimistic.  Hopefully he's well articulated as well, which I would think he would be.

Greedo - Not too bad of a figure really, but I'm not overly excited.  The "felt" vest seems kind of unnecessary, but I guess its something different if nothing else.  I'll pick one up, but I'm guessing this is the definite pegwarmer of the wave.

Overall they look great to me, and I'm glad to see this line continue.  Hopefully we'll have another wave or something later in the year, with some Empire Strikes Back figures (or even POTF).  The $10 price does kind of stink, but like I said, I'd rather have them this way than not at all.  Heck, if the line scaled back someday to just being 20 or so of these type of figures each year, it wouldn't be so bad.  Hopefully we'll see more at Toy Fair.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 7, 2006, 11:26 AM
I was thinking since this is a non-movie year, are these really gonna stay at the $10 pricepoint or are we going to get bent over these?  ???
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: jedipurge on February 7, 2006, 11:56 AM
for those that say instead of Greedo we should've gotten a DS sqaud commander >:(  are you guys crazy.  sure it'd be cool to get an SA version of him but come on army building him and the scout trooper @ $10-12 a pop  :'(  han definately has potential, i'm not really one for the trench coat either plastic or cloth either way it's comin' off.  Greedo  :-\ scout trooper  ;D gonna have to start playing the lotto and recycling those cans and bottles to get as many of these guys as i want.  can anybody say BARC Trooper repaints?  and if Hasblow is smart they'll rerelease him in that paint scheme for $6.99 and we'll all be pissed that we army built him for $10-12 instead of waiting to get him for $6.99 and just repainting him ourselves.  sand dude-opinion at a later date.  Luke kicks ass, but is it just me or does he look super pissed.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on February 7, 2006, 12:04 PM
I was thinking since this is a non-movie year, are these really gonna stay at the $10 pricepoint or are we going to get bent over these?  ???

They are listed in the Target computer at $12, so I'd expect TRU to be the same and Wal-Mart to be back around $10-11 if the pattern on the regular figures holds.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/VOTChans.jpg)

Thanks Jayson for that pic, easier to see that way that at least Han is partially different.  His shirt is defintely differnt and his arms must be too because his shirt sleevs come down farther on this new one than the old one too.

Sure hope that he has the correct brown pants on under that coat.  I know some of you don't like Han that much for his coat, but he is a 1000% improvement over the last few Endor Hans that we got (PotF2 and Saga).  Plus, I am a total Han junkie, so any new Han that is not based on the 1999 Cantina sculpt is gold to me!   ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 7, 2006, 12:08 PM
My expectation for Han is that he'll look better once released from his plastic prison.  I think it's hard for soft goods to look as good on the card as they do when loose.  Hopefully this holds true for the Tusken as well.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 7, 2006, 12:31 PM
Well, I don't really have a problem with Greedo being made... but if he warmed pegs at $5.00 each, I'm sure one more than twice that price won't be an easy sell.  Probably the figure of the bunch that you'll see on clearance the most.

Woudl I have replaced Greedo with a different character?  Yes, no doubt.  I'd rather have seen a Death Star Trooper, or even an Emperor.  Or even a ROTJ Endor Leia (one figure that's really needs to be remade).

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on February 7, 2006, 12:36 PM
Whoops, missed a busy day of posting.  

- US exclusive, what a shock.

- Luke's ok, helmet suffers from MR disease as Scott indicated, head seems small

- Han's coat doesn't impress really, hope there's a functional holster

- Greedo's vest never was cloth, why is it now? :-\

- Biker Scout makes me nervous, looks ok, head's a bit small, kinda worried about the blaster from that pic, it looks wrong

- Tusken looks interesting, cloak sucks, but maybe with some trimming....


Ordered a case to cover my ass and then I'll go around town pissing people off by buying Tusken/Bikers. :P

Well, I don't really have a problem with Greedo being made... but if he warmed pegs at $5.00 each, I'm sure one more than twice that price won't be an easy sell. Probably the figure of the bunch that you'll see on clearance the most.

Woudl I have replaced Greedo with a different character? Yes, no doubt. I'd rather have seen a Death Star Trooper, or even an Emperor. Or even a ROTJ Endor Leia (one figure that's really needs to be remade).

 :P

Agreed, Greedo is the Kenobi of the series.  They really should have rounded out the original twelve to finish them off.  An SA Jawa would be a lot of fun and a really well done DS commander would have been an awesome army builder. 

Frankly they should give this whole treatment to a wave that includes figures that could be used for army building, so there'd be no dregs clogging the pegs:
Jawa
DS Commander
Snowtrooper
Rebel Fleet Trooper - do it well and it will sell
Death Star Trooper
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 7, 2006, 12:57 PM
Frankly they should give this whole treatment to a wave that includes figures that could be used for army building, so there'd be no dregs clogging the pegs:
Jawa
DS Commander
Snowtrooper
Rebel Fleet Trooper - do it well and it will sell
Death Star Trooper

I couldn't agree more about wanting SA versions of these army builders (especially the Jawa, that would be so much fun).  But for those that do army build, I can understand preferring them to appear on the regular TSC cards instead of the more expensive VTSC cards.

To be truly devil's advocate, perhaps Hasbro is cutting back on some of the articulation in the regular figures (such as knee articulation) so that they can justify the higher priced VTSC figures?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 7, 2006, 01:01 PM
Rebel Fleet Trooper - I agree, do it well and it will sell!  I'm wondering, isn't there some sort of Yavin trooper scheduled for late 2006 already? I wonder how similar it will be to the Fleet Trooper, or if it's an easy custom to make it look like the one we want them to make.

As for all army builders, it would be nice, but so expensive.  I'd like to see them on regular cards with nice articulation, and some sort of 3-pks like discussed in the Unleashed thread.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nathan on February 7, 2006, 01:26 PM
(http://www.kid4life.com/tushunt.jpg)

The Tusken is the only one I'm really excited about. He looks wicked awesome, except for the overly puffy cloak, as everyone already mentioned. Still, it's only one carded shot so I'm withholding judgment on the figure. Hopefully he'll look better in person. And if he doesn't, perhaps I can remove the softgoods and stick him in a plastic Jedi robe or something.

Greedo I will probably get, because I don't have any of the previous versions.

The Biker Scout is a "maybe" for me ... I doubt I'll ever actually see him on the pegs, but I won't go crazy if I can't find him.

The others I'm leaving behind.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 7, 2006, 01:32 PM

- Biker Scout makes me nervous, looks ok, head's a bit small, kinda worried about the blaster from that pic, it looks wrong

I think we are seeing a top view of the pistol… which kind of distorts the look of it. So, I think were ok on that.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 7, 2006, 07:39 PM
Can anyone confirm that Greedo wore a holster belt in the film?  None of the previous versions had him in that kind of belt.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 7, 2006, 08:16 PM
I don't know if he did or not, but it's a nice addition I think.  If you don't like it, I'm pretty sure it would be easy to remove.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: speedermike on February 7, 2006, 10:06 PM
The other Rodians in the scene with Jabba in docking bay 94 wore the same gun belt as Han, so I don't see a problem with that.

I like that the tusken raider comes with a gun and a gaffi stick.  Also, if you look closelly at the Tusken, he's weaing more of a cape that has sleeves than a cloak.  This one will look good out of the package.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2006, 01:52 AM
I think production shots of Greedo show no holster but you also don't see him in the film from the waist down to know or not...  I dig the holster so I'm ok with it.  I think the lack of it in production shots would be because it wasn't necessary for the shot so it was just cut out....  Kinda like his footwear.

I can buy that he had it though, and accept that.

What's funny is Dr. Evazan is seen drawing his gun from a holster but neither he nor Ponda have a friggin' holster.  Those are two I'd actually like redone modern style.

On the issue of SA army builders I obviously am all for that, and I'm all for it at a cheaper price...  I'm just concerned that if it was done at the $6 price we'd get a 10 points of articulation figure at best.  :(  I don't like the thought of building armies with $10-per figures though, not by a long shot.  Didn't really "like" it with the VOTC Stormie as much as I loved the figure...

If Hasbro would just offer these in white mailer boxes somewhere for a GOOD price (IE: Not Entertainment Earth's Clone army builder sets with their unnecessarilly spiffy packaging), then I'd be all for it...  Even if first released as $10 VOTC figures or whatever.

And I'd add to the list a Hoth Rebel Soldier too...  I'd replace the Jawa with this actually.  I love Jawas, I want drunk ones for outside my Cantina, but I don't want Super Articluated Jawas really bad.   ;D  I would rather have the Hoth Rebel Soldier (in all white uniform, not the brown vested vintage guy) done, and done right with super articulation or damn close to it.  Jawas just would be lower on my wish list is all.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darby on February 8, 2006, 01:57 AM
I think Hasbro may burn out collectors by targeting certain figs for this $10 treatment.  I'm one of them.  What difference is there, beyond packaging, between the #41 clone and the Scout Trooper?  Do I want or need $5 more in packaging for a fig I'm going to open 20 of?  Of course they don't care, but now is not the time to start gouging collectors for all they're worth.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on February 8, 2006, 02:43 AM
Honestly there's a part of me that would prefer a line of SA figures at $12 a fig, focused on 12-16 figure per year, where quality and detail were guaranteed, over a $6 a fig line of 80 mish-mashes with a dozen or so sorta-winners. I think I'll be more burned out on the current pace of the standard TSC than to these. There's something appealing about knowing that these 5 figures should ship for some time, and should dry up before another wave presumably hits in fall.

But like we've discussed in the past, the packaging is overkill and doesn't justify the price. They should trim it down to 8.99 or 9.99 tops. I really wonder how these will do at retail in a non movie year or without a video release to back them up.

Greedo makes me wonder about where this line will head -  niche characters had better be something incredibly special to survive being mixed in with core characters and army builders, and he's not up to par, I think. I think there's a very, very limited number of secondary character that will keep pace sales-wise with Hans, Lukes, and Stormtroopers. I mean, maybe Jawas, a Gamorrean Guard?

I want to see them round out the original 12, for sure, then I'd like to see some more ESB figures - Hoth Han, Bespin Luke, and a Snowtrooper being the key ones for me. But those, again, are core characters which I think can move at the higher price. I just worry that the secondaries is risky territory for the line.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darby on February 8, 2006, 04:58 AM
The viability of secondary characters is why I think this move towards a higher price point is worrying (for folks on a budget, like me anyways).  If Hasbro is going to reserve core characters and SA sculpts for this line, what comes of the basic line?  If the basic line becomes solely the domain of secondary and obscure characters (and the repacks) then it's really only a glorified Collection 2, and we know already what retail thinks of that.  And since Hasbro knows we'll pay up to $13 for a single figure, I feel like the line is being pulled in a more expensive direction.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2006, 06:55 AM
I've sorta pondered if a SA line at the high price point wouldn't just satisfy what it is that I want and if I should just bite the bullet as this is what I'd be most likely to get, if I got what I wanted...

I want SA figures, or even just slightly better than what we've seen through most of 2006 anyway, and for the basic pricepoint...  Army building would be what kills me at the $10-ish price is all.  I'd probably not mind as much if not for the fact I love to have multiples of most everything, especially these better figures like Pilot Obi-Wan for instance. 

Now the Obi that's great, he was cheap, but like VOTC Han I had a hard time justifying buying multiples for customizing until he was on sale...  And the Stormie I bought plenty of, few on clearance, but it stung and I hate to say it but even if I saw 200 of them I couldn't have bought them all simply because it would have been financially impossible to justify.  I'd want to, but $10 per would kill it as a possibility.

Hasbro can do better by us though I believe...  They can offer better articulation, I've seen nothing to indicate to me they can't and excuses offered are hollow to me when compared around the toy aisle, even with the license they have.  The more "in" on other lines I get, the more I learn about their hardships as organizations and what they put out there in terms of quality, I cannot accept Hasbro's "wha wha wha, we can't afford to deliver anything better" lines of bull****, I'm sorry.  Fact is Hasbro could profit off the line even with quality increases to the basic line overall...  Even more if they'd cease the dead-end spin-off crap like Choppers and Transformers...  and even more still if they'd capitalize by re-releasing definitive figures instead of odd choices, but that's my opinion.

This topic is really a tough one to grapple with as a collector though, no doubt...  VOTC's the best Hasbro offers (short of Evolutions) yet you want these things that you know you don't want to feel the financial burden with.  Figures cool, price horrendous, and we are torn...   ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Broem on February 8, 2006, 09:03 AM
Yeah, the $13 pricepoints are ridiculous.  I give them the benefit of the doubt with the $10 VOTC wave ther first time due to the cardback, clamshell, and nostalgic feel of the OT DVDs coming back.  I really wanted those cardbacks for Leia, Han, Chewy, Vader, Stormtrooper, Fett, Lando.  At that time it was kind of the first real attempts at making SA figures as well. 

Now it's another $2-$3 more?  That is really pushing it.  Hence the only reason I will only be picking up 1 of each.  As cool as the Biker Scout is I'm not going to be buying up 5-10 of them.  Hell I won't be doing that at $7 a pop either, sure won't at $12 a pop.  I still like the cardback and really that is my only incentive to spend the extra money.   

I don't really see a reason for them charging more on figures because they are SA.  I have heard that from them before.  I think it's BS.  Expecially when quite a few basic ROTS figures were SA at a much lower  pricepoint. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 8, 2006, 09:54 AM
I have to agree with what Jared was saying. There's a lot of stuff comming out of okay to decent quality. It's a lot of work to collectect and it takes up a lot of space. I would much rather pay twice as much for less figures of higher quality.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on February 8, 2006, 10:57 AM
You'll pardon the repetition coming from me I hope, but it is fascinating to watch the discussions from a Canadian point of view.  Prices are up, no doubt about it, and that's not good for anyone that collects.  But consider for a moment typical Canadian retail prices:

Basic figures $8.97-9.99
VOTC $14.99

Add to those 14-15% tax and you've a $17 VOTC figure.  That's pretty freaking awful, but it's what we've been paying up here.  Now three years ago I could accept it because the Canadian dollar was resembling a Peso more than a greenback with a value as low as $0.61 USD.  Currently though the $1 CAD = nearly $0.90 USD. 

Therefore I put to you that the real reason for the increase is a devaluation in the US dollars purchasing power relative to other currencies.  Canada is by no means a world leader financially for a variety of reasons.  Natural resources are currently very valuable and we have lots of those, but the US is in a funk.

Anyhoo, aside from that little tidbit I accept none of your moaning cuz you're just getting a taste of Canada now :P

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And I'd add to the list a Hoth Rebel Soldier too...  I'd replace the Jawa with this actually.  I love Jawas, I want drunk ones for outside my Cantina, but I don't want Super Articluated Jawas really bad.
I don't really want or need them that badly either.  I just want them to round out the first 12 vintage figures is all.  I think they can do them very well and I'd love to see them on the cardback with the case as well.  They'd be nice and not necessarily an army builder, though they have the potential.  Given it's more VOTC than army building I'd still prefer the Jawa. 

See I don't think Hasbro really even considers army building as a reality.  If there are indeed nuts out there with deep enough pockets or strong enough desire, to Hasbro that's just gravy.  They want to get these out there at a high price point and sell them.

Case, articulation and everything else be damned, they have a captive market and they know it.  Compare what else you could buy for that $10:
- A marvel legends figure - superior articulation, bigger and now an accessory to build a figure
- LOTR Trilogy figure - usually superior articulation, larger by far, ok accessories
- McFarlane whatever - a mini-statue for all intents and purposes, realistically it's a better value, if not having lower play value
- 10 Hot Wheels cars :P

Ok, the last one wasn't really serious, but you can get a lot of toy for your money relative to a VOTC or Target Exclusive.  Hasbro knows it, but they also know we're all stupid.  Sorry if that offends but it's true for almost all of us. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2006, 11:53 AM
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Honestly there's a part of me that would prefer a line of SA figures at $12 a fig, focused on 12-16 figure per year, where quality and detail were guaranteed, over a $6 a fig line of 80 mish-mashes with a dozen or so sorta-winners. I think I'll be more burned out on the current pace of the standard TSC than to these. There's something appealing about knowing that these 5 figures should ship for some time, and should dry up before another wave presumably hits in fall.

But like we've discussed in the past, the packaging is overkill and doesn't justify the price. They should trim it down to 8.99 or 9.99 tops. I really wonder how these will do at retail in a non movie year or without a video release to back them up.

Greedo makes me wonder about where this line will head -  niche characters had better be something incredibly special to survive being mixed in with core characters and army builders, and he's not up to par, I think. I think there's a very, very limited number of secondary character that will keep pace sales-wise with Hans, Lukes, and Stormtroopers. I mean, maybe Jawas, a Gamorrean Guard?

I want to see them round out the original 12, for sure, then I'd like to see some more ESB figures - Hoth Han, Bespin Luke, and a Snowtrooper being the key ones for me. But those, again, are core characters which I think can move at the higher price. I just worry that the secondaries is risky territory for the line.

This is what I think about sometimes too.  There is a part of me that wouldn't mind a VOTC-like line, more limited, with around 20 figures a year or something.  The higher price stinks, and honestly I could only afford it if the basic line was cut back as well.  Like Jared mentioned, at this point part of me would almost rather see a more limited line of "high quality" figures, maybe for a slightly higher price, than an 80 figure lineup with half of them being rehashes.  I'm a loose collector as well, so they could cut back on the packaging for all I care as well.  I do like the vintage-style cardbacks, but could take or leave the cases.  I could see how carded collectors might like them though.  Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the whole vintage line re-done VOTC style, but then again, I don't want to pay $13 for a Power Droid.  It seems like we can get great "secondary" characters in the basic line, such as the upcoming R5-D4, Hammerhead, and Garindan resculpts.  Its hard to know the happy medium, but I know that as much as I like new figures, if the breakneak pace of the basic line keeps up...I don't know if I can.  I'm definitely on a budget, and likely a lower one this year, so some other things I'd like to collect are getting the axe so I can keep up with the basic "core" line.  Like many have said, Hasbro should just cut the crappy offshoot lines like the choppers and focus more on their core.  Add knee articulation to more of these figures, and I don't think there would be nearly as many complaints.  I don't need Derlin and Veers to be "SA" necessarily, but knee joints on both would do a lot.  Anyways...that being said, I am a fan of the VOTC line...especially when it is somewhat limited in releases at a time.  It makes it a little easier to keep up.  The price is killer though, especially with so many basic figures out as well.  I'd like to get more into army building with OT characters...but how many Scouts can I justify buying if they are $13 per?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 8, 2006, 12:04 PM

Anyhoo, aside from that little tidbit I accept none of your moaning cuz you're just getting a taste of Canada now :P


Moan – Canada tastes like crap!  ;D

j/k :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Broem on February 8, 2006, 02:16 PM
Soon the problem will be that they just price everything out and retailers will whine because they don't sell.  I just see Hasbro and retailers shooting themselves in the foot here.  They got a good thing going right now but are going to get too greedy in the end.  That's what I fear. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on February 8, 2006, 02:18 PM

Anyhoo, aside from that little tidbit I accept none of your moaning cuz you're just getting a taste of Canada now :P


Moan – Canada tastes like crap!  ;D

j/k :P

NO, no kidding.  That would be correct ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on February 8, 2006, 04:35 PM
I'll definitly get the Scout.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2006, 05:07 PM
I have to say that I disagree about wanting to pay $10 or more for figures... they've proven over and over that they can make awesome stuff in the $5 price range.  Just because they make some stinkers in there doesn't mean they can't make great figures too for that price.  Heck, the VOTC figures are nice and all, but hardly warrant their retail price.  Not one of those figures is superior to some of the ROTS stuff we got... remember the SA Clone, Count Dooku, Ki Adi Mundi, etc. figures?  Does someone not think that's good enough quality?  Or the new AT-AT driver?  What's wrong with that?  I think the mix they are doing now is working pretty darn good... they're making some nice new resculpts, mixing in some new characters, and throwing in a few rehashes, but not too many.  And how many Baradas do you see sitting around?  Most of us, including myself thought that would be collecting dust for the entire year... yet from my area and others I've talked to, it's not.  Somehow even Rieken has sold.  Would you want to see a $12 version of Rieken instead of a $5 or $6 version?  Or for Veers to have had articulated knees but for his price to have doubled?  Not me.

If anything, I could stomach more of the Evolution sets priced in the low $20 range for really nice figures, but asking for $10 figures I think is asking for trouble and an early exit for the Star Wars line.

I'll take two SA Clones at $5 each over a $10 version anyday, and I think most people who buy this stuff (including parents - yes, parents) would too. 

Quanitity/diversity is one of the main things Star Wars has always had going for it.  If you increase the prices too much on these by making the mainstream line double what the current mainstream prices are, production and variety of characters goes down.  That's a poor idea I think.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 8, 2006, 05:25 PM
Hasbro once claimed that the "star case" on the VOTC figures was the reason for the price increase.

If that's true, then get rid of it.

It means **** to me.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2006, 05:59 PM
I agree... the clamshell should raise the price by maybe a dollar.

And I'm not saying to cancel the VOTC line, it's pretty cool.  But as a subline, not the main line.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on February 8, 2006, 06:39 PM
I think that we're talking about the price associated with different things. They've certainly proved that they can deliver SA at the $5 price point, and done so on some ROTS figures that probably didn't need them in the first place - like the Royal Guard - that was above and beyond expectations. But when you're paying $10, you expect that level of detail, instead of counting your blessings that you got it in the first place.

I'm not really arguing for $10 dollar figures but for a line of consistant quality expectations. VOTC/VTSC offers that. The price just happens to suck.  ;)

At the $5 point, we see a lot of folks shrugging off figures that had one really good shot at being done right as a resculpt, and have a pretty small chance of being revisited any time real soon. Not that they're bad, but they're not as good as the really could have been. To me, this is where the new Han Carbonite, Veers, and maybe Bib fall. They're a couple shots off from being great, great toys. Han and Veers would have been perfect with knee joints and Bib would be much better served with a soft goods undercloak. The chances of any of these figures being revisited now is iffy (though customizers might do with merging Han Carb with VTSC Endor Han to solve the problem).

Then you throw in the repaints and recards that are filling out the box. Those are there to make a couple extra bucks, but over time, will clog pegs. We'll reach a point where future good figures will see lower distribution because of filler figures along they way. I think that point is coming with the Geonosis wave.

I think I'd be comfortable paying a bit more to just have "premium" figures that get done up to a certain quality standard and aren't affected by a need for 20-30 other figures as filler along the way, which generates those stinkers.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2006, 02:16 AM
An interesting thing...  Knowing what I know about Wal-Mart, and knowing what I remember about VOTC there in 04...  I remember the first cut in price there dropped them to $7 right away...  That was pretty much nationwide, but not all at once, and they went lower than that at numerous stores over time, but the first big drop seemed to happen across the board to $7...

Now, retail isn't a place that often cuts prices to a loss right away, and WM doesn't unless the item was set for that fate like a loss leader, but SW toys are not those...  So, while it's a guess, I'd bet they still were making a tidy profit off $7 a figure for VOTC...  So I agree with CHEWIE that I don't WANT to pay $10 a figure and I do believe Hasbro can deliver high quality at a low price...  They don't always, but I believe they can "in general"...  Obviously I too dont' feel every figure needs the VOTC treatment in quality, like I'm ok with Bib Fortuna as he is mostly, but figures like Veers, Han Carbonite and others this year haven't met my standards or other even quite secondary characters standards from the past in this line.  I think Hasbro can deliver that VOTC (or near it, like the new AT-AT Driver) quality for on the cheapy cheap for most of the line.  I think the VOTC was a REALLY profitable sale for them, but that's me.

I don't think anyone is saying they WANT to pay $10 a figure though, I think there's just a look of realism on the situation in that Hasbro seems to NOT want to give us these high quality figures for $5 across the board (or the line in this case).  So if you can get it for $10, you bite the proverbial bullet...  Which I tend to agree with Jared, but it kills my army building habit...  And customizing to an extent...  But Hasbro's definitely saying "you can't have that for this".  Hell there's a huge gap between most of the VOTC quality compared to the basic line as of today...  The AT-AT Driver is, so far this year, the only actually "close" figure to super articulation out of the first two waves.  To me he's the only thing rivaling VOTC in quality...  2006 hasn't been real impressive thus far...  And testament to the point of this discussion, I hate the $10-ish pricepoint but ya know the most "excited" I got for a figure this year so far is the VOTC line...  And Cody who I'm hoping is more articulated than I fear. :)

$10 pricepoints are definitely risky things though and can cause consumer burnout so it's a risky thing, and I too can see Hasbro and retail shooting themselves in the foot on this potentially... 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 9, 2006, 02:56 AM
Who knows what will happen.  I agree that some of the new SAGA2 sculpts aren't exactly what we want... but I do think that there is also the argument that Veers is still a great figure (even without knee joints) and the Bousch Leia, don't see what more someone would want with that.  I'm glad she's NOT a VOTC figure, because of the potential they would ruin it with some sort of oversized cloth goods.  She seems to be the most overlooked figure so far this year.

Looking back a the VOTC before, Ben Kenobi didn't have articulated knees, and 3PO sucked... so for what was supposed to be the "best" line ever, almost 20% of them fell short.  And really the Luke didn't need soft goods so, that probably makes three figures I felt weren't done right.  And I don't think people are dancing on their rooftops over the new Greedo coming out, he could have been just a regular carded figure for that matter... as could all of these VOTC figures.  I'm beginning to lean in the direction of killing the VOTC line.  They're too overpriced.

And looking ahead to the Geonosis wave, we'll see if they pegwarm or not. We were wrong on the Carkoon wave, so I bet there's a chance these will sell better thank some people expect.  You have the carded completists, and some kids will see a Jango out in stores again for the first time in more than 2 years, yada yada. 

So I think things are going good with the regular line since OTC started actually.  Lots of figures, good variety, resculpts in the OTC/SAGA2 line, and we all know they finally did something right with the ROTS line. 

Once again, I'll be in the optimistic corner of the discussion.   But again, I'm beginning to dislike the VOTC idea continuing... I want the figures, but not to be double priced.  They're not twice as good as what else we're getting.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2006, 03:18 AM
It's tough to say they're not twice as good as what we're getting though when you look back and I think the majority wanted what we got...  3PO is undoubtebly the stinker of the lot, but as Ben's go the VOTC Ben is still considered one of the better ones by a lot, though it's lacking a lot too...  Still, it's the only Ben you can sit in a landspeeder and for me that meant a lot since that's where he's displayed.

Han though is twice as good as Han Carbonite by a long shot...  VOTC Stormtrooper trounced every Stormie to that point.  Chewbacca may be the greatest figure of all time arguably.  Fett's top-notch.  R2-D2 was nothing to snooze at though I personally don't care for it as much as the Bar2-D2 version.  Vader was the best till that point.  Lando's fantastic.  Leia's the best to that point and I'd dig her re-released with a hood-up head actually...

3PO sucked, Ben was so-so, and Luke I personally put in the sucked column only due to the unnecessary goofy shirt (he didn't have a removable shirt in vintage so that figure still strikes as a "huh?  ???" figure too...  But that means 9 hits and 3 misses or mediocres out of a short 12-figure line...  Then the next wave comes, and honestly I don't know too many people upset with them unless they simply don't like cloth which this line's obviously got a focus on using cloth...  I like it myself when it's done right and the two iffy ones are tough to tell how good the figure is underneath the coat, and the coat's tough to judge on a card, so I'm leaning towards really liking them just based on early photos...  The price sucketh though, no doubt.

Is Veers a good figure?  He's ok...  I've seen customs that were far superior though...  No back tot he armor, the goofy fit of the helmet over the hat-head, and lacking leg articulation on a body that, with the right leg articulation, would've been really REALLY good to reuse down the road....  And an argument can be made on his height being a bit odd looking too, but the other items I think are a bit more "substantial" to some people...  Veers doesn't strike me as even close to VOTC quality then. 

Carbonite Han is ok...  Veers is ok...  They're neither one near as good as the Cantina Wave in 2004/05 though, and those are basic figures, and background characters at that.  So it's tough to say they, or most of the rest of Saga 06 compare well to the VOTC in terms of quality...  VOTC isn't really double price quality to me though either, I don't care for the price at all, but if it's the only way Hasbro delivers then how else can you look at it?

As far as Leia goes, I gave her a good review...  She coulda been better, mostly with how her arms pose, but I like her.  She fills a hole, and I'd say she's sorta like the AT-AT Driver.  I think he's a better figure than Leia really, but she's a close runner-up.  She's still not VOTC quality to me...  Better than Ben and the line's worst like 3PO, but below Vader, Lando, etc...  If I were rating by comparison that is.  She has flaws like the somewhat static right arm due to sculpt, the sculpt's iffy on the face (I didn't mind it, but it's not their best by a longshot).  She's not a bad figure though, I kinda dug her.  I like VOTC Leia better though, I can safely say that.

So to that end, I think what people are saying is that they WANT that high quality that, most of the time, VOTC has developed...  They don't want that price that comes with it though, but I'd say most are to the point where they see Hasbro seemingly in refusal mode to really take the line to the "next level" as a standard...  Not even VOTC level, but a straight across the line overall standard increase that at least matches figures like the AT-AT Driver resculpt.  The VOTC seems to offer your best chance at your best figure (to most) but with a price...  The basic line is like a craps game though.  You'll see a figure listed on rumors, and when pictures finally surface, what are you going to get?  Sometimes you win with an AT-AT Driver, sometimes you lose with Scorch...  This makes some people happy irregardless because they just don't give a ****, this doesn't make others happy... 

Right now I have a tough time gauging how sales are going with Saga but I know I haven't seen much more than a couple cases out at a time so pegwarmers are tough to judge.  They're not dumping tons of cases on shelves right now though so it's tough to say Carkoon wouldn't pegwarm if it hit en masse...  I know Bib's a pegwarmer here, so that's one anyway and he's ok for what he is too, just not popular.  Tough to say...  Geonosis is a better mix I think so I'm not worried about it, Carkoon is the one with the earliest back-up potential if there happens to be a lot of that case out there in circulation I think.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 9, 2006, 09:54 AM
but I'd say most are to the point where they see Hasbro seemingly in refusal mode to really take the line to the "next level" as a standard... 

I wonder if that's s conscience effort to allow Hasbro to upgrads figures every so often.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 9, 2006, 09:58 AM
Hasbro has wised up since the days of POTJ and Saga.  They have realized that they CAN command higher prices and still sell product (without allocating new tooling for every figure).

They know collectors are keeping this line alive - how many of us bellied up to the bar and bought all 12 VOTC figures and the complete set of OTC figures?

How many of us bought the ROTS exclusive figures?  All of which were rehashes.



Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on February 9, 2006, 10:28 AM
Excellent points by everyone here.  I'm on board with what Jared and Jesse mentioned in their posts....I'm definitely not asking for $10 figures, but more so the quality that we (most of the time) got with them.  I think we know that Hasbro can bring that quality to the $5 line, they did several times in the ROTS line, but it just doesn't seem like they will do that.  The comments discussing having a larger, 10-20 figure VOTC/VTSC line (at a likely higher pricepoint) I think stems from not only wanting that type of quality, but also from burnout on the line overall.  Like I've said before, I'm always happy to get new figures...and as many as possible...but at the same time, for someone like me its hard to keep up with 60-80 basic figures, then VOTC, not to mention anything else along with those lines.  Like it has been said already, I think its more some of us saying "well, if this is the only way we can get this quality, then we'll have to pay the $10".  I sure wish it would be cheaper, even if it was around $7 if it had to be higher than basic figure price...because my budget is fairly limited, and will be moreso this year, and with the pace things are coming out it seems like its tough to keep up with things even if you only collect the basic figures and nothing else.

I can see the difference in quality this year too.  Like Jesse mentioned, if you compare the VOTC Han to the Han Carbonite figure...yeah, its probably twice as good.  I was happy to get the Carkoon Han, but knee joints would have went a long way towards improving this figure.  Same with Veers and Derlin.  I like them both plenty, but knee joints would have helped a lot too I think.  Hasbro can do nice knee joints (on human figures too), just looking at VOTC Han, Lando, Fett, and even Luke shows that...they just don't for some reason.  I agree that I think Boussh Leia is slightly under-rated this year.  I think most people like the figure, but no one seems to be talking about it too much.  I think the AT-AT driver is the best of the line so far this year, with Leia second.  Overall, I've liked this line, mainly because of the overall "theme" and the packaging is nice too (even though I'm an opener).  There has seemed to be a few figures that are "real close" to being perfect, and I think that can get frustrating.  I'm not overly disappointed by any means, but it would be nice if the majority of the figures (particularly the "new" releases) were more along the lines of AT-AT, Boussh, and the VOTC (and some ROTS) lines.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 9, 2006, 10:59 AM
Well I think we all agree that we want the highest quality of figures for a fair price.  I just don't want to see a $10-$12 line becoming the focus.  It's ok as a subline, but I'd rather the figures be at a more affordable price for us collectors and of course the kids.  There should always be a $5-$6 line of good figures.  Maybe they won't have 10+ points of articulation, but for what we're paying, I don't think we're getting a raw deal.  Would I have rather had Carkook Han with articulated knees?  Of course.  And they should have done that. 

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: jedipurge on February 9, 2006, 01:58 PM
great points, but if they can give a ROTS prisoner palpy articulated knees, even though he wears a robe that i almost tore to get off of him, for $4.99 and look @ pilot obi i think we all can agree that he's votc/evo and above quality without a doubt.  why can't this be done with these knew figure  >:( and the price is higher then anything we saw with ROTS.  if hasbro wants to make a figure that's at best should be $6.99 and charge an extra $4 for packaging that's fine, but at least release these figures on a normal cardback for us openers/army builders. basically for army builder/openers/customizers we are throwing away the $4 that we're being charged for the packaging by opening them.   ??? i just don't get it.  like another cantina han but it not being the votc version just on another card WTF??  it's almost enough to make me quit the line.  it just seems like hasbro is contiually giving us the shaft.  what about the BBi line how many vehicle have i seen compared to what we got with Rots and saga 2.  oh wait we don't even have any vehicles from saga 2.  the articulation/paint/and sculpt on the BBi figs and vehicles almost blow anything out of the water that hasbro throws at us and it's at a cheaper price.
 >:( :( ??? :-X :'(  sorry about the rant everybody, but this hobby is getting very frustrating and expensive, but thanks to my star wars OCD i just can't quit.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 9, 2006, 02:40 PM
Ha Ha, jedipurge, I think you echo the sentiments of most of us.  There's always the answers that Hasbro can't justify new vehicle molds (if that's true, it's the collectors fault for always waiting for them to go on clearance to buy them), but as for things like knee articulation, I don't see any way Hasbro can explain that without admitting they just cheaped out.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2006, 04:46 PM
The way I read the Hasbro blurb, it made it sound like the Lucas stormtrooper was going to require the sticker from  "1 of each" of the new VOTC. At $13.00 a pop, I didn't plan on buying 1 of each. I love the idea of mail-aways as a reward for collectors. A bunch of gimmiks that make collecting tougher and more expensive does not interest me very much. Like Jedijaybird said regarding some other Hasbro BS, "why don't you slap my grandma while your at it?"
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 11, 2006, 01:29 AM
Wow, that was fast.  SWS.com (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104816&ReferrerID=CJADBN-00001) has these listed by the case, 2 of each figure.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2006, 03:23 AM
Not a shabby price there either.

I'm a bit miffed they advertise the Lucas as "vintage style" when it isn't.  More out of principle than what it is they're offering.  I'm likely gonna get a case of these just so I'm covered on some of them, but I'm really REALLY hoping these are mixed in down the road so Scouts and Tuskens somehow outnumber the others in distribution.  Even cases are cool right now, but down the road we all know the two taht will be a big pain to find.  :( 

The new pics make Han look a ton better to me...  Albeit from a distance.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dan on February 11, 2006, 07:26 AM
That SWS.com price is pretty good, I was expecting 135-150 before taxes and shipping. The EE price is 120, and it isn't often SWS.com beats them. I put my order in, because I fear the "1 of each" factor is going to make finding bikerscouts and raiders even tougher. On another thread I expressed concern that a plan like that could not only encourage scalpers, but reward them. If you absolutely have to have 1 of each, they can effectively hold a figure hostage. I know some of the HW sellers around my area have connections at stores to cherrypick the cases. They will be sending the bikerscouts out the back door as well.  >:(
So.... I bite the case bullet for the VOTC clan. I don't give a rat's *** if I ever see a silver base or gumball toy accessory. If I see a foil carded AT-AT driver, I buy it as an anomoly to add to the collection.  :-\

And then I sit back and count the days til June, when the beautiful Kubrick people will again impress us with their creativity, ingenuity, and attention to detail. And thank Hasbro for convincing me to put most of my money elsewhere.(Choppers? Goofy robot ships? Tiny preposed junk packs for $10.00? Force Battler whats?) But there isn't enough capital to take a chance on a new ship.... ::) )
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 11, 2006, 06:44 PM
According to two separate reports at www.coreplanets.com, the new VSTC figures were found at a Walmart in Kansas today.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on February 11, 2006, 07:06 PM
According to two separate reports at www.coreplanets.com, the new VSTC figures were found at a Walmart in Kansas today.

 :P

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

TOO...MUCH...FIGURES...COMING OUT...AT....A...TIME...15 YEAR-OLD'S WALLET...TOO...THIN...GAHHHH!!!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 11, 2006, 09:04 PM
As I suspected, the loose photo's look a lot better than the carded. I still think Luke's stance is way too wide and I have a sneeky feeling that the Sandperson's arms are swivel joints.

Chewie, does the report say what the retail cost was at WM?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jim on February 11, 2006, 10:56 PM
My main concern was waiting for pics to show up of the upcoming VOTC Sandperson with soft goods.  I am so disappointed in how huge and poofy this looks.   Huge :o  I was looking forward to this figure thinking how cool this could (should) of been.  The version that came with the Bantha had the right idea .
 I'm sure that this will be the final version Hasbro will come up with since it is part of the VOTC line.  Im sure it will have excellent articulation.  But this poofy suit is bad IMO. 

The soft goods did not work on Greedo either.  Other figs should of been considered for the VOTC line. 

Did the Weequay from the Battle Pack have articulation on the right arm?  I like the way they repainted him, but am not going to buy this with all those other
that are still on shelves.  The Han Carbonite is the biggest pegwarmer in my area. 




Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Matt on February 12, 2006, 12:10 AM
Re: Sandperson

I'm gonna hold on to the hope that maybe--just maybe--the nimrods who set up Hasbro's booth somehow didn't put together the Sandperson right.  After all, several of the other figures look like they were hastily put-together for the set up, with gaps  at their shoulders, elbows, and wrists.

That can't be the way it's supposed to be, because it just looks gay.  Maybe there's a way that the bandoliers are removable, and go over the cloth or something.  (Realistically, I know that's not possible, with the amount of material there.)  They could have even done it like they did the Royal Guard last year, with the plastic arms poking out of the holes in the cloth robes.  Or, like Jim mentioned, like the Tusken included with the Bantha--top half plastic, bottom half cloth.  They did that with the VOTC Leia and Ben, and they didn't look too bad.

I know the VOTC is all about cloth, and I usually like cloth, too, but only to a certain extent.  And this goes way past that extent.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 12, 2006, 07:32 AM
My main concern was waiting for pics to show up of the upcoming VOTC Sandperson with soft goods.  I am so disappointed in how huge and poofy this looks.   Huge :o 




Oh my God.  What were they thinking?  It looks like he's trying to wear a fur coat or something.  I don't even want this figure anymore.

loose tusken raider (http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-HasbroTSC/image62.asp)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2006, 08:42 AM
Maybe it folds out into a Tusken tent?  ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on February 12, 2006, 09:42 AM
While I am a bit dissappointed in the VOTC Tusken Raider, I will find a way to make it work...With VOTC Lukes tunic, I found a way to adjust it so that it looked less Puffy and ill-fitting.

I just hope that under all that tentage he is super articulated.  I fear that we will end up with the VOTC Obi Wan problem...they substitute giant soft goods for articulation.

All in all I'll still be getting a dozen or so of him, I have a feeling that this is going to be the last Tusken Raider/Sandperson we see for a while.

Luke X wing looks good, I hope they tweek it a bit in the future for a Snowspeeder Luke (even though that one would really need to be a full on new sculpt)

Han Endor looks good to me.  I have a vintage Han Trench coat on an Extra VOTC right now, so at least this one will now have the right pants and shirt.  As long as he is sporting the same atriculation as VOTC Han, I'll get at least 4 for dios and maybe even try to talk some customizer into making a Bespin Han out of one for me.

Greedo....well at leas it is an OT figure.

So it looks like my budget will be blown on VOTC II this time.  I've already ordered 4 cases from various sources. (not sure what I'll do with all those extra Greedo's, but you never know)

And I didn't leave out my thoughts on the Biker Scout...it is just that I can't stop shaking in anticiaption over that thing....

So while I can see everyone's points about certain aspects being off or not as right as they could be, I guess I'm just too easy to please these days.  They are improvements over the previous version of each, so I consider them a worthy replacement.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 12, 2006, 01:03 PM
Paul, if your stuck with them and want to sell them for whatever they cost at Walmart, I'll buy a pair of Greedos (and Hans and Lukes if you aren't customizing them) from you instead of Walmart or wherever and then I'll just look for the Scout Troopers and Tuskens in stores. 

Edit:  Danny would also be happy to buy a Greedo (and 1 of whatever else you're looking to dump) from you rather than the stores.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 13, 2006, 02:56 PM
Too bad about the Tusken Raider...he looks fine sans the poofy Columbia coat.

The material needs to be thin....
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2006, 03:15 PM
The material does look pretty thin on the Tusken... I'm thinking if you dip the material into some sort of liquid you can partially solidify it to make it fit better.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2006, 11:03 PM
Well they have shown up for sure now at a Walmart in Kansas.  I posted a pic at www.yakface.com.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on February 13, 2006, 11:11 PM
God, this year is off to a frenzied start. No way I'll be to keep up at this pace... ::)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 14, 2006, 09:40 AM
Well they have shown up for sure now at a Walmart in Kansas.  I posted a pic at www.yakface.com.

 :P

Okay, I'm a little wierded out. You have to admit that this is odd. Usually there are other confirmed sightings and ususally they show up through other channels first (over seas dealers and e-bay.)

I can't make out what the recipt says. Does it list the figures names?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 14, 2006, 11:17 AM
What I don't like is ..doesn't he say he got them yesterday but the receipt shows 2 days ago( 11 feb 2006). Highly suspicious.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2006, 12:19 PM
I don't think it's legit.

We usually see new figures pop up on ebay a month or so before they hit the states.

Can anyone make out the price on the receipt?

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jim on February 14, 2006, 12:25 PM
Its fake.  Its convenient how wrinkled and unreadable the receipt is. 

I dont know why some people get such a woody lying there fat asses off. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on February 14, 2006, 12:30 PM
You can read the whole saga over at CorePlanets (http://www.coreplanets.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=63391&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1) where the sighting first originated.

Here is the original, unaltered, un-resized photo they posted over there:

(http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/54419/1140355009250_greedo1.JPG)

In it, you can make out the date (02/11/06) and sku number for the vintage greedo figure.  Easiest way to see if it's a fake or not is to have someone take that SKU number from the reciept there and have your local Wal-Mart see if it's in the computers yet.

The strange thing is that they claimed to find the new vTSC figures amongst a bunch of old vOTC figures and they rang up at like $5.00 each or something like that.  Something just doesn't feel right about this, but I just can't put my finger on it.

I have to imagine this is one of those cases where a box got put in the worng spot and accidentally shipped ahead of it's time.  Kind of like the one-off box of RotS figures that showed up in a MN Target in January alongside the Sneak Previews figures.  Just one box and months before anyone else found them.

I'll just set this aside as a really stange fluke since like everyone said previously, they aren't even on eBay or the e-tailers like ActionHQ or anything (and those guys always have stuff early).   :-\
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2006, 12:38 PM
I really don't think it's fake... kind of funny how sometimes people think anytime something shows up early, it's got to be a hoax.  Like Jeff said, check out www.coreplanets.com, or go directly to the thread here -

http://www.coreplanets.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=63391&page=&fpart=all&vc=1

Apparently the buyer was able to get the figure for $5.00, as the older VOTC figures they had there were marked at that price.  If anyone wants to be a skeptic, it's your right, but I don't think it's worth someone's time to try and fake something like this.  Some people there got really ugly over it, which is sad.

If anyone tries to enter the SKU number at their Walmart and it doesn't work, that doesn't mean that this is a fake.  I've found new figures at Walmart before on the pegs that weren't even in their computer yet.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2006, 12:55 PM
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong...and judging by that hi-res image...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 14, 2006, 12:57 PM
It doesn't matter where or how many of these showed up for me; I haven't seen a SAGA figure hanging on a peg hook in 2 weeks and rest assured I won't be seeing VOTC for a month at least.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nathan on February 14, 2006, 01:13 PM
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=16319&cat=4755

The Tusken looks ridiculous. Dang softgoods. >:( I'm guessing it's removable, so I would think he'll look OK without it. :-\
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2006, 01:32 PM
Yeah it's just so bulky. I wish I had been the one to find those figures at that Walmart... if so, I'd open them, and take as many detailed pics as possible to answer these questions, I really want to see what the Tusken looks like without that cloak on.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 14, 2006, 01:39 PM
I don't mind the outer robe... I'll chalk up the extra bulky look to the Hasbro reps. not being able to display the figure very well... comparable to trying to dress a corpse - it just doesn't look right.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jim on February 14, 2006, 03:20 PM
I stand corrected he aint a liar.  He just sucks ;D  Strange how no others leaked or any other figs were found. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 14, 2006, 03:37 PM
Luke found in Kansas

(http://www.yakface.com/2006/VTSCluke.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nathan on February 14, 2006, 03:51 PM
This is the first and probably last time I wish that I lived in Kansas. :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2006, 04:38 PM
Wow, talk about some awesome finds.  I can't wait until these start showing up more.  I wasn't overly excited about them at first, but now that they have been sighted, I can't wait to get them.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 14, 2006, 04:39 PM
I stand corrected he aint a liar.  He just sucks ;D  Strange how no others leaked or any other figs were found. 

I think it's safe to say that someone, who's maybe not a member of a SW forum, scoffed up the rest of that wave and left a pair of Greedo's from that 1 case that was put out behind.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2006, 05:21 PM
According to the thread at www.coreplanets.com others were found too, that was just the only one left when that person got to them.

I'm glad that people are finally startnig to believe it.  What would even be the point in trying to fake something like this?

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on February 14, 2006, 05:24 PM
Attention is usually the root cause of fakes.  Some people crave attention and notoriety.  15 minutes of fame and all that. 

Quote
I've found new figures at Walmart before on the pegs that weren't even in their computer yet.

Happens all the time.  A serious pain in the ass as they try and figure out what to do ::)  Just charge me regular retail from some previous star wars figure that IS in the system folks, it's highly doubtful you just raised the price.  The joy of computers telling us everything at retail. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 14, 2006, 05:40 PM
Yeah, most recently when the "Final 12" wave came out in ROTS, when I found them they weren't ringing up.  Fortunately I had a Royal Guard and the lady just rang that figure up a few times.  But I saw a few reports around that some people's Walmarts wouldn't sell them.  Man that would really fuel my fire.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Clone Commander on February 14, 2006, 09:38 PM
-Sigh-
America only...damn you hasbro.
That GL Sounds cool though.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 14, 2006, 10:46 PM
Can someone refresh my memory... is there an expected time-frame when these should start showing up?  It'd be nice if it was after tax time...

May 1st was the supposed release date.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Scott on February 15, 2006, 12:19 AM
Kansas is also where Exclusive Wal-Mart Marvel Legends were found, those too were not supposed to be out for like 3-4 months

That was chalked up to someone shipping a few pallates of toys to a sales meeting which were then put out for sale by mistake, I'm guessing these were part of that shipment as well

(From Jesse Falcon at ToyBiz)

Quote
Ok I wanted to check with out HK office before I posted this because I saw the images of the W-M wave last night on line and the person who posted states that they were found in the states. Apparently there was a sales meeting where 1 pallet (or) 5 of what's referred to as a PDQ were rushed to make this sales meeting and were not intended to be turned around to be sold at retail! I'm Not sure why this was done but that very limited amount of product is now at retail in that one state and probably at that one store.

What's really frustrating is that this lines not in production yet and that product that was rushed together ONLY for that sales meeting and does not represent the final working product. The deco articulation and function and fit of the product is NOT finished.

You will all see the FINAL product and much more on Sunday.

Best,

Jesse Falcon
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Matt on February 15, 2006, 12:22 AM
Yippee-ki-yay, Mister Falcon.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on February 15, 2006, 12:34 AM
So, now that all the dust has settled on this find and the info is coming together, I guess it really is a case of some Wal-Mart in the middle of no-where screwing up.

Let's see if I have this down correctly...

First, a bunch of product was shipped to some big Wal-Mart buyers to-do event.  This included Pirates of the Caribbean, Star Wars, Marvel Legends, and more.  Then, once the meeting was over, Wal-Mart screwed up by just sending the products to a store to sell when they were supposed to send the stuff back to the manufacturers or something.  As a result, some vTSC figures and some Marvel Legends and some other stuff that won't be out for months made it's way into the hands of comsumers.

Sounds to me like a total fluke where whatever higher power you believe in was just rewarding the poor bastards who have to live in Wicita/Kansas...  :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ben on February 15, 2006, 01:27 AM
I can foresee thousands of collectors starting to make yearly trips to Kansas every February and combing through every WM in the state looking for toys that aren't supposed to be out yet.

Pilgrimage for geeks.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Clone On Fire on February 15, 2006, 09:21 AM
Kind of odd that this product showing up almost beat the pics showing up.  Wouldn't it have been funny if the first we saw of these figures was not the preview photos from Toy Fair, but instead the first image being the purchased product with the receipt from Kansas?  That almost happened.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 15, 2006, 09:43 AM
I officialy stand corrected as well. After seeing that recipt and reading the core planets saga, it all seemed plausable. I'm also glad that these were a fluke and that they are still two months away.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 16, 2006, 01:46 AM
Pilgrimage for geeks.

Isn't that what Star Wars Celebration is?
Title: What Next?
Post by: Brian on February 21, 2006, 11:48 AM
Taking into consideration the figures we got in the initial run of VOTC, and with what is coming in 2006 with the first (only?) wave of VTSC figures, which figures would you like to see done next in this line?  Sticking to the "only done in the vintage line" rule, how would your next wave or waves be made up?  Here's what we've gotten so far:

Star Wars
Luke Skywalker (2004)
Princess Leia Organa (2004)
Han Solo (2004)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (2004)
Tusken Raider/Sandpeople (2006)
Luke Skywalker: X-Wing Pilot (2006)
Greedo (2006)

The Empire Strikes Back
Lando Calrissian (2004)
Yoda (2004)
Darth Vader (2004)
C-3PO (2004)

Return of the Jedi
Chewbacca (2004)
Stormtrooper (2004)
R2-D2 (2004)
Boba Fett (2004)
Han Solo: Trenchcoat (2006)
Biker Scout (2006)

With those out of the way, and continuing the "vintage line" tradition, there are a lot of options still available.  I'd probably go with an ESB wave, since we aren't getting one in the first batch this year, and stick with figures that really need the all-out, SA treatment.

Hypothetical - The Empire Strikes Back
Han Solo - Hoth
Snowtrooper
Rebel Soldier - Hoth

I have trouble with another slot, likely to be filled by either Han Solo - Bespin, Luke Skywalker - Hoth, or Luke - Bespin.  All three have fairly nice figures made in previous lines, but could probably still be improved up on a little, even with some elbow/knee articulation additions.  Aside from that, looking at the vintage ESB lineup, many figures (AT-AT Driver, Bossk, Dengar, FX-7, Lando, Lobot, etc.) already have pretty good basic versions and others (2-1B, Bespin Guard, 4-LOM) could probably be covered in the "regular" basic line.  Other candidates would be Leia - Hoth, Ugnaughts, or Zuckuss.  If I go beyond ESB, there are still great options from the other movies as well.

Luke Skywalker - Jedi Knight (ROTJ)
Luke Skywalker - Endor (POTF)
Leia Organa - Endor (ROTJ)
The Emperor (ROTJ)
Endor Rebel Soldier (ROTJ)
Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper (POTF)

The list can go on and on, but I'd like to see main characters and army builders get this treatment first and foremost.  Looking over the figures we've gotten over the past 2 years or so, combined with what was made in the vintage line and going with the rumor we heard at one time of the "entire vintage line getting the VOTC treatment", I can see that we might get there.  Between some very nice figures in the OTC and TSC lines, along with these VOTC/VTSC figures, we're getting quite a few of them covered in newly sculpted, nicely articulated versions.  Just using the first 21 vintage figures as an example, we'll have had 16 or so of them get all new versions in the past 2 years.  Anyways...long post, but the questions is, what would you like to see next?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JediShawn on February 21, 2006, 11:57 AM
Star Wars

Walrus Man
Death Squad Commander
Jawa

The Empire Strikes Back

Han Solo- Bespin Fatigues
Snowtrooper- Soft Goods Skirt
Luke Skywalker- Bespin Fatigues

Return of the Jedi

Princess Leia- Endor Fatigues
Emperor Palpatine
Luke Skywalker- Death Star Duel

The Power of the Force

Luke Skywalker- Endor Fatigues
Luke Skywalker- Stormtrooper Disguise
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: John C on February 21, 2006, 05:26 PM
Next Potential wave- late 2006
Empire Strikes Back
Han Solo(Hoth Gear)
Leia Organa (Hoth)
Luke Skywalker (Bespin Fatigues)
Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth)
Five figures to go with the early 2006 wave

Future Waves
ANH
Jawa
Death Squad Commander

ESB
Luke Skywalker (Hoth Gear)
Han Solo(Bespin)
Leia Organa (Bespin Gown)
Rebal Soldier(Hoth)
TIE Fighter Pilot
Bespin Guard

ROTJ
Leia in Endor Poncho
Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight
The Emperor
Rebel Soldier(Endor)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on February 27, 2006, 05:06 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/VTSCBiker.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 27, 2006, 05:27 PM
That Scout looks unbelieveable... and the Tusken looks great now too...

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/VTSCTusken.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on February 27, 2006, 05:31 PM
Wow, the Biker Scout looks awesome - too bad he won't be on the pegs long enough for me to find one!

The Tusken Raider looks better - but I bet he still looks "poofy" with his arms down.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on February 27, 2006, 05:43 PM
Do my eyes deceive me or is that a mid-torso joint on Han (Endor)...  :o

Wow.  I think Han is still my favorite of the bunch followed by that Biker Scout.  Still not sure on the robe on that Tusken or why they needed to do Greedo, but the others - Han, Luke, Scout - look fantastic!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nathan on February 27, 2006, 05:51 PM
Gadzooks! That Tusken looks awesome now that we can see the figure itself. So there is at least one position where the cloak doesn't suck. :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Kill_Solo on February 27, 2006, 06:55 PM
All of these look soo awesome, I cannot wait till I get my case!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 27, 2006, 07:45 PM
Those look great.  I'll be looking for at least 25 of the Biker Scout - so hopefully he's about 4 per case...  Han looks like the best of the bunch.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on February 27, 2006, 07:50 PM
I can't tell from the pic, either it's well hidden or not there - put I don't see ankle articulation. I hope it's just well hidden.

Han looks great, Luke looks like everything he should be (except maybe his headsculpt) and I'm starting to like the Tusken. I still don't get the point of Greedo, but, whatever.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2006, 08:09 PM
I hope that Gaffi stick is a tad stiffer when we get it, that thing has E.D. (Erectile Dysfunction)  ;D

And I wonder if the Greedo will have the blaster shot in the chest that the past 5 Greedos have had?

FYI: That chest box is on wrong that photo, it needs to be turn 90º CCW

http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/closeup.cfm?image=87060_pkg.jpg

Stoopid Hasbro Art. Dept.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 27, 2006, 08:52 PM
To me the inclusion of Greedo is an indication that Hasbro at very least intends to keep the VOTC line going.  If they were just making exciting main characters then I'd say the line is doomed, but if they're making Greedo now, maybe they're thinking that they need to save some of the excitment for later waves.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 28, 2006, 12:47 AM
Oh yeah, and now what we really need is a nice new speeder bike in a  vintage style box...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2006, 02:14 AM
I was gonna complain that the bike won't fit the scout like it should, but screw it I know I want a new Speederbike.

The old sculpt is so oversized and gangly...  They need a new one with a clear stand for it to "hover" on.  Sculpt it to-scale to the VOTC Scout...  I'd gladly buy this beast.  I'd buy dozens actually if the price wasn't outrageous on it. 

Anyway, on the new photos...

My opinions are pretty much all positive based on the early photos we've seen.  There is stellar articulation on each figure.  It appears to me they all got spared the Hasbro Quality Axe as I call it, which is a first for 2006.  ;)  I mean, a whole wave of hits?  How can you NOT love that?

The Sandperson looks like you can work with his softgoods, Han just looks good in that pic.  That really is a nice job done on that coat.  The Greedo is cool enough I guess but it does appear to indicate their continuation of this line...  Personally I preferred VOTC but that's me.

Luke, fantastic...  Scout, fantastic...  Han's my favorite right now though.  That's everything I ever wanted in a Han Endor figure.  Count me in for several.

I gotta get a case pre-ordered on these now, it's without a doubt a pile of stuff I want.

I wish they would offer us these at a lower price.  $8, and I'd be happy.  I seriously wouldn't complain about buying armies at $8, I would buy customizing bits at $8, i'd even keep the packaging at $8...  $10+, especially if they're really gonna keep this going, is gonna be hard.  I mean, $10 ewoks are hard to justify...  Same with Ugnaughts, Jawas, various astromechs...  Even the aliens it gets tough to deal with financially.  :(

The case ratio of 2x each figure really makes one wonder...  Will these reship in different mixes or is this it?  I want more Scouts and Sandies...  Finding them will be a bitch.

Hasbro's gotta get it in their thick heads at some point that some of this crap sells steadily no matter how many you put out.  #41's sold steadily even though they backed up.  AT-RT Drivers sold steadily...  They can't keep an AT-AT Driver on pegs around me, even at the $7 price.  I just can't believe they'd sink the $ into molding/tooling up a figure like that Scout then limit it in some ways...   :-\

The mold toolings are fixed costs that you only are able to limit through increased production and sales.  Granted some things are risky choices to recirculate in the line, but Stormtroopers and Scouts?  The way to drop those fixed costs is to put them back out there...  Same with the Evolutions Sandtrooper.  VOTC Han over Cantina Han...  It's the smart choice, and they're the figures more appealing to all buyers too...  Hell I'd buy another VOTC Han if I saw it on a basic card...  Paint his hands grey and put a headset in and I'm sold on that figure just for that little difference.  I could use it for customs even if nothing else.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 28, 2006, 09:53 AM
Those pictiures look awesome! Tuscan Raider looks tons better, as does Han. Luke was photograghed at agood angle, but I bet the leg stance is still going to be awkward. I don't think there's going to be a bad way to pose or photograph the Bikerscout.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on February 28, 2006, 10:21 AM
The Greedo is cool enough I guess but it does appear to indicate their continuation of this line...  Personally I preferred VOTC but that's me

Am I missing something?  You preferred the VOTC?  Do you mean you preferred the OTC?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on February 28, 2006, 10:39 AM
Nice to get some more pictures of this wave.  I really think the wave overall is looking pretty good.  The Tusken looks much better in this pic now, and might turn out to be alright.  The Han is my favorite of the wave as well, because I've really wanted an "ultimate" version of Endor Han, and this seems to have everything.  The Scout of course is close behind, and looks like a heck of a figure.  I'd like to get a handful of these, but it depends what can be found I guess.  I think the Luke X-Wing looks really nice too, and I look forward to retiring the POTJ version.  Greedo seems like an odd choice to me as well, but doesn't look too bad.  I think you guys hit it on the head when saying that the Greedo is a sign that they are going to continue the line.  I mean, otherwise, you'd think they would have thrown another main character or army builder in there.  Hopefully we'll be surprised by (at least) another wave later in the year.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on February 28, 2006, 05:23 PM
That sucking sound you hear is the black hole in my wallet where the VOTC budget used to be.

A dozen Biker Scouts, a dozen Tusken Raiders, 3 or 4 Han Endor, 3 or 4 Lukes!! 1 Greedo.

My question is this though...do you think the faces/heads on Han and Luke are Painted or Molded skin tones?  If they are painted, I'll drop my number to 1 Han and 1 Luke.  I don't like the painted flesh tones.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Broem on February 28, 2006, 09:11 PM
I will get one of each.  I can't imagine I'll find the Biker Scout at retail though. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on February 28, 2006, 09:26 PM


The case ratio of 2x each figure really makes one wonder...  Will these reship in different mixes or is this it?  I want more Scouts and Sandies...  Finding them will be a bitch.

Hasbro's gotta get it in their thick heads at some point that some of this crap sells steadily no matter how many you put out.  #41's sold steadily even though they backed up.  AT-RT Drivers sold steadily...  They can't keep an AT-AT Driver on pegs around me, even at the $7 price.  I just can't believe they'd sink the $ into molding/tooling up a figure like that Scout then limit it in some ways...

You'll forgive my innate cynicism and whopping experience in seeing Hasbro talk about this stuff in person (all of once at C3) but I really do firmly believe that the people making the decisions just don't get it.  You could see it at the C3 panel, the two dudes shuffled off the end on the right side were the guys away from the microphones, but you could see them smiling and nodding knowingly, in that I've worked for the government and it sucks but we call it Hasbro way every time someone mentioned something really cool.  They wanted it too, they understood it and they had heard it a million times and it had registered.  And they were low enough on the totem pole to have precisely zero influence. 

Hasbro doesn't get it and they've yet to prove me or anyone else wrong.  Seeing the Utapau clone and Scorch reshipping is a start but as Jesse said, it simply doesn't matter, clones/stormies sell.  Yes, they might back up on occasion, but they still move out and sell regardless, unlike a _____ warrior or _____ Jedi.  Even the incredibly populous white clone pilot moved along merrily. 

I'd love to see a 6-4 split, scout to sandpeople in a refresh case.  Or a 4 scout, 4 sandie, 1 Luke, 1 Han case.  Geez even drop a sandpeople off and throw in 1 Greedo (but I don't think there'll be a need). 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on February 28, 2006, 09:55 PM
That sucking sound you hear is the black hole in my wallet where the VOTC budget used to be.

A dozen Biker Scouts, a dozen Tusken Raiders, 3 or 4 Han Endor, 3 or 4 Lukes!! 1 Greedo.

My question is this though...do you think the faces/heads on Han and Luke are Painted or Molded skin tones?  If they are painted, I'll drop my number to 1 Han and 1 Luke.  I don't like the painted flesh tones.

I'm betting they've got the painted on skin
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 1, 2006, 12:56 AM
I will get one of each.  I can't imagine I'll find the Biker Scout  at retail though. 

I know I will see one
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darby on March 1, 2006, 04:50 AM
These look amazing.  Maybe the best single group of figs Hasbro has ever done.  I'm all in for the Scout, Luke, and Han.  I'm not too worried about finding them.  I actually saw the Stormtrooper VOTC several times in 2004.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JediMoses on March 1, 2006, 10:23 PM
In case you haven;t seen it yet, New force has the cases of VTSC up for pre-order, also sets.  Nice price.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 2, 2006, 12:08 AM
I've been waiting for Newforce since they mentioned they'd be putting them up. I ordered two cases. :-X
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JediMoses on March 2, 2006, 12:26 AM
I thimk they just went up tonight.  I ordered a couple.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 2, 2006, 02:32 AM
Rob, I think I was trying to say I prefer VOTC but know the price deters many...  Even though it's just Greedo, it's still so far superior to any Greedo that it's worth it...  I did a poor job writing that.

I keep hoping they get it at all levels...  Unfortunately the design team isn't the only ones that need talked to by the fans. :)  I still would love being a fly on the wall of any meetings regarding this line...  You know it's filled with great stuff that is clearly shot down.

This isn't even a risky concept for them, but it's still not acceptable to them. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on March 2, 2006, 09:26 AM
I thimk they just went up tonight.  I ordered a couple.

Yeah, they weren't there yet last night when I checked (8pm) but I was glad to see the pre-order up this AM.

$89.99 plus $9.95 shipping?   :o  That's about $9.99 per figure after shipping.  No way Wal-Mart or Target can beat that price.  :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 2, 2006, 09:44 AM
A little OT, but NewForce is one of those anomalies that make me scratch my head as to the whole pricing thing. They are obviously one of the smaller retailers and I know that, at least a few years back, they only got about 900 cases of each assortment ordered. They wouldn't bother if they weren't making some type of mark up. So why can they give us the cheapest price, period? You would think that EE, who boasts larger sales than WM during a non movie years, would have 'em beat.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on March 2, 2006, 09:55 AM
Maybe, they're just cutting they're margins a little to compete.  ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on March 2, 2006, 10:13 AM
I don't ever get that either, how smaller e-tailers can price compete.

It must be due to lower overhead or something I guess.   And I also think it just has to do with EE thinking of themselves as the "premiere destination".

Hell, they sold figures at the $8-9 each range for a looooong time before they finally came down in price to try to start matching the little guys.  From 2002-2004 I ordered from Rick because he has always been $10-15 cheaper than EE.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on March 2, 2006, 04:32 PM
Rick is just a cool guy.  He has never let me down - I think he enjoys helping out collectors - his margins reflect that rationale.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 4, 2006, 03:30 AM
Anton, I saw you mention that subject "elsewhere" too... 

The supposed "retail experts" at that dump though, I have found anyway, to be talking completely out their ******** about what they THINK they know about retail costs/prices.

For instance, I worked for JC Penney's around 98/99 and saw some costs on things via their catalogue department...  Figures cost a fraction to JC Penney's of what they charged, and their retail prices were comparable to Target/TRU at the time + shipping...  So I'd imagine that Target and TRU were probably getting even better prices out of Hasbro and still charging about what Penney's catalogue charged.  Especially because JCP wasn't a major buyer of these products and didn't carry them all year, or even carry point-of-sale items you could just pick up off the shelf.  I was friends with a guy at TRU corporate at the time and we'd compare crap routinely and basically TRU blew JCP's margins on the same items out of the water but that was to be expected due to the relationships the two companies had with Hasbro... 

JCP had enough leeway with figure costs to cut the price by like 50% and still profit off the figure.  It was generally set that you could use coupons and incentives from the store or the catalogue, and JCP still made a lot of money.  It was rare anything at all in the store was even clearanced to the point that something wasn't made financially off the item. 

Now, I can't imagine that, between 1999 and 2006, that all of a sudden figures have just jumped in their margins for the manufacturer and the retailer to the point that the item's price can barely be fudged to where anyone's profiting.  Total BS...

What I think Newforce does is give the best they can to be competitive while making the best they can while being competitive.  I think EE's like Jeff said, that to an extent it's maybe some overhead issues but also that they probably consider themselves "premiere" on some level, which they are recognized for certain, so they can get away with that...  They also maybe know that NewForce just doesn't do the same volume they do, and that they'll pick up those thousands of other sales that the limited NFC doesn't pick up (for whatever reason).

I have no doubt that Star Wars figures make retailers and Hasbro quite happy when they do well...  like right now.  I'm also quite sure these figures profit even when they're on sale, so I'm just glad to see New Force doing something for the fans by pricing stuff well...  I'm sure that with their relatively small size that competing with Wal-Mart was a stretch for them, but still profitable or they wouldn't have done it (like you said).

Thusly, I have my order in there...  I'm pondering a 2nd case from Rick even.  I just hope I get my stuff is all.  I haven't ordered for a while from there.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 4, 2006, 09:20 PM
Thanks Jesse. I knew my thoughts on the whole matter were more in line with the real world. Some of the gunk spewed over there made no sence from a business standpoint. Plus, the figures cost pennies to make, even with development. Hasbro's mark up to retailers is only so much.

And yeah, I guess the overhead issue is a pretty big deal. I forgot about that. I think Rik works out of his car hole, doesn't he? While EE has a wherehouse here in So-Cal, which ain't cheep.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on March 5, 2006, 01:57 AM
I spent a long time working in retail, no toy experience but a whole lot else.  Depending on how you phrase it, markup was either 50% or 100%.  Either way, if the retail price on a figure was $10, the cost to the retailer was $5 or perhaps a tad less. 

I know the suggestion north of the border is that Walmart sells these at a loss.  I have a wee tad hard time believing that.  I know they do loss leaders all the time, but I'd be amazed if TRU was selling something for $9.99 up here that had a wholesale price of $$8.97 ::)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 6, 2006, 09:13 PM
ok I have a bit of a quadry....I ended up getting a VOTC 2 Tusken Raider from that Kansas Wal Mart.....as I was taking photos to send to my friends here at JD.com, I noticed it doesn't have any information anywhere except the sticker that mentions the "Ultimate Bounty"....so...do I rip it free of it's plastic coffin, or do I leave it as is, in case one of my Mint on Card buddies needs it?  It is killing me not open it, but I respect the fact that somebody out there in JD land might actually like the thing missing the Ultimate Bounty thing still carded...or perhaps there ISN'T supposed to be anything in there and it is just a sticker...any thoughts from the gang?

To answer the questions in you mind..ebay...too much..yes I am ruining the hobby, but with just Prequel stuff between now and the Summer...I had to get my OT groove on and PayPal is not like real money...

I can probably hold out another 30 minutes.  What do you guys think? Open it or keep it in case...

FRONT
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BACK
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Pic of me and the Family at Disney as proof I really have the figure (and a wife)
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Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gatillo on March 6, 2006, 09:28 PM
I do not have it and cannot wait to open it. ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 6, 2006, 11:09 PM
ok could not wait...they are Toys..they are meant to be opened....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5474.jpg)

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Sorry the pictures are bad, my wife has a really good camera, but I don't know JACK about photography....if anybody has request shots let me know.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 6, 2006, 11:20 PM
Paul, nicely done man, nicely done...  Thanks for sharing these amazing photos.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 6, 2006, 11:26 PM
Bad photos?  I don't think so Paul - they look pretty sweet to me!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Diddly on March 6, 2006, 11:28 PM
Man, that's awesome. Too bad about the swivel elbows though. But the good news is that the coat is MUCH less poofy out of the package.

Thanks for the pics!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on March 6, 2006, 11:37 PM
 :o Wow, thanks for cracking him open and sharing pics, Paul. I'm much, much more excited to get this figure now.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: DSJ™ on March 6, 2006, 11:42 PM
Great pics Paul, he looks super.  8)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: R5Don4 on March 6, 2006, 11:53 PM
 :o :o :o

Cool pics. Thanks.

Too bad about the swivel joint elbows, I was hoping for ball joints.

Oh well I still need to get a half a dozen or so. ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 6, 2006, 11:55 PM
But the good news is that the coat is MUCH less poofy out of the package.

Agreed.  He looks really great here:

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Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 7, 2006, 12:35 AM
I knew it, swivel elbows. :(

Thanks for the photos. He looks soooo much better now.  :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2006, 12:42 AM
I'm sure you guys know I'm the biggest articulation champion out there probably...  Or the one who yaps about it the most anyway.  ;)  I'm not that bothered by Hasbro's use of the angle-cut elbow articulation here...  It blends with the folds of the shirt really nicely, so the joint's completely obscured by the choice of articulation and the savvy sculpting of the guy who made the figure by hand.

The ball/socket elbows would be better but I've actually come down on that over the past year to where I don't NEED it as much as I used to...  I think angle-cut elbow articulation is something Hasbro does really well, it's versatile for a number of great action poses and neutral poses, and it's something I am ok with...  

The rest of that beautiful sculpt is great though...  Ball joints everywhere else, sculpt that is simply outstanding...

Paul, is his bandoleir set a separate pice that's glued to the figure, or removable or something?  The sculpt is either so crisp and sharp that it looks like it's literally a separately sculpted piece stuck on the figure, or it actually is that and we just didn't know it.

If it is somehow removable, that figure shot up an additional point for me...  For customizing reasons that would just be amazing.

Eitehr way though, I have to say that I wasn't all that worried about the robe from early photos even though there were concerns voiced on its poofy qualities...  The pics you took show that it's a very managible piece of fabric though Paul, and looks incredible and realistic on the figure.  That's some of Hasbro's nicest use of "softgoods" ever, and that says a lot after the 2005 Jedi figures like the skirts on Luminara and Shaak.  

Thanks so much for the images Paul, nicely done man.  Where'd you nab that at again exactly?  
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on March 7, 2006, 01:09 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5466.jpg)

Wow, you managed to make the puffy cloak actually look good!

Thanks again for the pictures Paul.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 7, 2006, 01:48 AM
Well, I was about as wrong as one could be on this figure - it looks just about PERFECT.  That means I'm going to want about a dozen of them.  Geeze.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Matt on March 7, 2006, 02:32 AM
I take back all the bad things I said about this figure earlier.

And I also nominate Paul to set up all of Hasbro's Toy Fair displays from now on.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darby on March 7, 2006, 04:37 AM
Wow.  This looks perfect.  Right out of the movie in some of those pics.  I thought I was passing on him -- no way now.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 7, 2006, 08:01 AM
is his bandoleir set a separate pice that's glued to the figure, or removable or something?  The sculpt is either so crisp and sharp that it looks like it's literally a separately sculpted piece stuck on the figure, or it actually is that and we just didn't know it.


The bandolier is removable (from a certain point of view)  The "x" harness of ammo pouches is a separate piece but it does not have a tab or anything to make it easily removable..I think you could "pop" the arms off and it would slip right off.  BUT here is the problem...the "x" is molded in the chest and back making grooves so that it sits in the chest/back better.  So you could take it off but you would have a chest with an "x" shaped channel on it.

I'll see if I can get some good close up shots of it after work this afternoon.



Wow, you managed to make the puffy cloak actually look good!


The great thing about this coat is that you can put it in just about any pose you want and due to the "gauze" nature it will stick.  You can pretty much tuck it in anywhere you want and it stays.


And I also nominate Paul to set up all of Hasbro's Toy Fair displays from now on.

It is amazing what can be done when you've actually seen the movie the toys are based on. ;)


I think you can probably do a really good "sniper" pose with him too, but I could not figure out a way to do that, so that is why he is firing the rifle from a standing position.

The accessories are the really soft plastic stuff (hence the bent rifle barrel). 

I did not get any photos of it, but the waist is articulated in the standard fashion.  The waist ammo belt and skirt are removable as well.  But I think once removed they might be off for good, so I did not attempt it.

I have gone full circle on this one...I was really excited to see it listed on the VOTC list, then a little let down by the photos, because like most of us I saw the coat as too puffy.  Now that I have it, I am back to really liking it and wanting more. 11 more to be precise.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on March 7, 2006, 09:12 AM
Pretty cool - does he came with that stand or is it from something else?

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 7, 2006, 09:55 AM
That is an OTC stand.  I had to use it to keep him standing.  The peg holes in his feet are kinda small and did not want to accept the peg, but it was the only one I had that was handy.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on March 7, 2006, 10:55 AM
Thanks so much for the pics Paul.  I'll echo what everyone else has said, and your pictures really make this figure look great.  Much better than many of us originally thought the way it looks.  I thought that the soft goods might look better out of package (and with someone with actual Star Wars knowledge posing it), and it looks like that is most definitely the case.  I can't wait to nab a few of these, it looks like it turned out to be a heck of a figure.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 7, 2006, 11:00 AM
Yeah, I'm really glad I ordered a case of the VTSC figures - I can see now I'd really regret missing these figures.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 7, 2006, 11:53 AM
Paul= Hasbro corps marketing/advertising division expert :-*

Nice pics, damn that fig looks good!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 7, 2006, 03:32 PM
ok after the drama of open it/not open it and the euphoria of opening...I forgot to update the fact that aside from the Label on the outside that we have all seen regarding the Ultimate Bounty, there was nothing inside the Clamshell or inside the figure package that would give any clues as to the nature of the giveaway or the requirements.  The label merely said to visit StarWars.com for details.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 7, 2006, 03:41 PM
maybe they want a number on the packaging or a receipt?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 7, 2006, 03:41 PM
there was nothing inside the Clamshell or inside the figure package that would give any clues as to the nature of the giveaway or the requirements.

Strange.  Perhaps we'll just have to remove the UGH sticker on the front of the clamshell? 

...edit... I hope not, because people will just steal them off the clamshells in the store.  ::)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on March 7, 2006, 04:11 PM
We have to remember that the vTSC figures that leaked out (the "Amazing Kansas Wal-Mart" figures) were a special circumstance.  The figures were not intended for retail sale and were only late-stage samples that were sent to Wal-Mart by Hasbro.

It is entirely possible that the give-away info was not included with the Tusken that Paul opened because the mail-away details were not actually final at the time thsoe figures were sent out to Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: jedipurge on March 7, 2006, 04:32 PM
i'm suprised with how many people are back on board with the sandperson.  sure he looks cool, the legs definately have fodder potential, but the arms totally look as if they are from the massiff/sniper version of the t raider.  to me this is still an easy pass unless it gets discounted.  not to dog anybody's opinion on him or the fact that this just adds to the completion of the initial 12, but he seems no better then Greedo.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on March 7, 2006, 05:11 PM
We have to remember that the vTSC figures that leaked out (the "Amazing Kansas Wal-Mart" figures) were a special circumstance.  The figures were not intended for retail sale and were only late-stage samples that were sent to Wal-Mart by Hasbro.

It is entirely possible that the give-away info was not included with the Tusken that Paul opened because the mail-away details were not actually final at the time thsoe figures were sent out to Wal-Mart.

Jeff's right (at least I think so) - the figures that were shipped to that particular WM were pre-production mock ups.

You should not have opened it!

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 7, 2006, 06:50 PM
Early samples or not I disagree with Jeff. Perhaps it will be a receipt turn-in like the early bird mail away.  Thank-you/well played for opening the fig, Paul. If not we all would not be talking about it(how cool it is) and how some actually dislike(are not impressed with) it.

If Paul wouldn't have opened it then we'd all be not posting as much in here.  Alternative=boring.

Don't worry, I doubt it would be 'worth' anything more as an early sample considering yours was the only early release example I heard of. Typically one of a kind differences rarily raise the value if at all. :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 7, 2006, 07:01 PM
If it is an early production figure perhaps we can anticipate better paint apps.  It is hard to see in the photos, but it looks very much like a "wash" over white plastic on the upper legs and arms.  So I don't know..

And I am glad I opened it.  I have never been in the "value" side of our hobby, I just originally didn't know if somebody here needed it as their "holy grail"...I guess it just makes the others more rare..30 years from now I get to bea foottnote in a collector's guide about why there isn't a complete set of the infamous "Kansas Wal Mart 5"....

I am going to take some comparison shots with Tusky and the previous versions.  Just for grins.  Also I'm home now, so I might see if I can get the bandoliers off him as well.

OK here are the new pics...

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5476.jpg)

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5471.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5479.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5482.jpg)


Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 7, 2006, 08:31 PM
more pics
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5487.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5493.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5491.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5490.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_5496.jpg)

Ok unless there are any specific poses you want I am done burning up your bandwidth...Enjoy!!!

I am looking forward to 11 more of this guy!!!!  But I may substitue Vintage Gaffi Sticks..
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Flacksguy on March 7, 2006, 10:11 PM
Just wanted to say Thanks for the pics.
I usually post on Rebelscum, and had heard there were loose pics of this figure here. A better Tusken has been at the top of my wish list for a while, so I was really happy to see these pics.

Thanks again for opening and for the pics.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 7, 2006, 10:17 PM
Paul, that is awesome.  If I can bother you with one more request: is there any way that he fits on the Bantha to replace the POTF2 version?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 7, 2006, 10:38 PM
Paul, that is awesome.  If I can bother you with one more request: is there any way that he fits on the Bantha to replace the POTF2 version?

I would be glad to, except I don't have a Bantha..if anybody in the D/FW area has one let me know, I'll drop Tuskie off and however it needs to work.

I never had the bantha so I don't know did that Tusken Raider have wide straddle legs? 

I was wondering if I needed to snag one off of the Bay...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on March 7, 2006, 11:44 PM
Early samples or not I disagree with Jeff.

That's it, you're on my "naughty" list.  Plus, I'm going to tell on you...  :P

Uh, anyway, I expect there will be more/better info on the mail away once these figures hit in larger numbers.  I just think that this particular figure should not be considered as exactly what the "final" product may be.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: The Professor on March 8, 2006, 09:04 PM
That Tusken Raider is a great figure.  Thanks for posting pictures and opening it.  It looks a little pale compared to other Sand People, but the soft goods look really nice on this figure.  The big cloak compliments rather than distracts from it (ie. VOTC Obi-Wan).
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on March 8, 2006, 10:15 PM

I would be glad to, except I don't have a Bantha..if anybody in the D/FW area has one let me know, I'll drop Tuskie off and however it needs to work.

I've got one. :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 8, 2006, 10:36 PM

I would be glad to, except I don't have a Bantha..if anybody in the D/FW area has one let me know, I'll drop Tuskie off and however it needs to work.
/quote]

I've got one. :)

I was hoping you'd say that...I have stuff to drop off for you anyway....
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nathan on March 9, 2006, 03:40 AM
Paul, thanks for the great pics--particularly the comparison shots. :)

I am mightily looking forward to getting my hands on the figure.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2006, 06:41 AM
Just wanted to say Thanks for the pics.
I usually post on Rebelscum, and had heard there were loose pics of this figure here. A better Tusken has been at the top of my wish list for a while, so I was really happy to see these pics.

Thanks again for opening and for the pics.

Well get your ass over here and avoid the Jr. High lockeroom. :)

Seriously though Paul, very nice pics, thanks man.  The figure looks great to me...  The arms are definitely more poseable than the Tusken Sniper (and its other recard names), what with wrist joints and things...  The sniper's got (I'm going off the top of my head here) a left wrist and angle-cut right elbow and MAYBe right wrist?  It's pretty limited though, and this Tusken looks good with raised arms, or arms down too despite the baggy outfit.

The softgoods comparison shot you took with Obi-Wan is outstanding Paul...  It's like an ad for using cloth on action figures properly. :)  Very nice.

I don't mind the paintjob myself, though it's not fantastic.  The Sniper he's compared to is sort of too gold. 

Bummed to hear about the gummy weapons Paul but I figured that'd be the case.  I think Hasbro ran with cheap plastic on accessories in the VOTC line too (the Stormie blasters are noticeably more flimsy for instance).  Hasbro's probably cutting a corner with that to save $.  Yet they gave two accessories so that's weird, but whatever.  I can't wait to get this figure in droves.

Oh and thanks for the heads up on the Bandoleirs.  Definite customizing potential Paul...  A good part to reproduce for that hobby.

Great stuff man, I'm thinking I want about as many as you're looking to pick up. :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Flacksguy on March 11, 2006, 07:28 AM


Ha Ha Ha, Thanks Jesse.


Paul,
now that EE has posted that information about the mail away GL stormtrooper, did you happen to notice if your figure came with a "tab" and where in the package was it?
Thanks
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 11, 2006, 08:58 AM
I did not notice a Tab...but I did notice that the UPC had the old "cut around the dotted line" dots, but no scissors or instructions to cut it out. 

The upc is on the cardboard insert piece that is in the plastic clamshell.

I'll try to get pics up this afternoon!!!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2006, 04:15 AM
The figure is indeed great.

I was reading around forums tonight to play catch up from the weekend...  I really see a lot of anger, and I can understand a lot of it, but it's making the hobby just fill up with the less favorable these days...  People angry over nothing, people fighting over silliness...

The VOTC look great, they're what I'm really anxious to get this year because right now the basic figures just look like they're going to fill everyone with rage and hate in this hobby.

At least VOTC have SOME chance of maybe being findable.  The $10 pricepoint has always proven the slower seller, so maybe that'll work out for those of us wanting to unload heavy scratch on these figures.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on March 14, 2006, 10:20 AM
Super Articulated Sandtrooper?  This is the happiest day of my collecting life.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 14, 2006, 05:35 PM
The figure is indeed great.

I was reading around forums tonight to play catch up from the weekend...  I really see a lot of anger, and I can understand a lot of it, but it's making the hobby just fill up with the less favorable these days...  People angry over nothing, people fighting over silliness...

The VOTC look great, they're what I'm really anxious to get this year because right now the basic figures just look like they're going to fill everyone with rage and hate in this hobby.

At least VOTC have SOME chance of maybe being findable.  The $10 pricepoint has always proven the slower seller, so maybe that'll work out for those of us wanting to unload heavy scratch on these figures.

I agree totally ..lotta hate, name calling for silly reasons-it IS affecting the hobby.
My job is to share as many bikers as I can to make folks happier ;). Well..I know I'll score alot ..but for the happier part(not greedier) we'll see.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: jedipurge on March 16, 2006, 06:08 PM
has anyone checked out www.toynewsi.com, their pics of the votc figs are the best i've seen so far.  the one of Han is great all he needs is a cowboy hat and big a$$ mustache and he'd look just like wyatt earp.  the only thing is and i don't want to sound anal is that he has his anh blaster instaed of the rotj one.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 16, 2006, 10:57 PM
the only thing is and i don't want to sound anal is that he has his anh blaster instaed of the rotj one.

Wow, I would never have noticed. I don't even know the difference, what is it?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 17, 2006, 05:33 AM
The ROTJ blaster is noticeably shorter/stubbier Anton.

If you have access to your stuff readily, I suggest looking at your Saga Endor Bunker Han Solo (the one with the bombs), and his blaster...  Compare it to any of your Cantina Han Solo's or your VOTC Han Solo (they have the ANH blaster).  They're both accurate, and accurately show the differences in Han's brain burners from the films.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 17, 2006, 07:28 PM
I'll try to get some better pictures up in a bit, my wife and daughter went to see my inlaws and have the "Good" camera...I'm charging the other one right now.  We'll have live with these scans for now.

A message for the visitors/lurkers from other sites. Yes, I got them on EBAY, Yes I overpaid, Yes I am single-handedly ruining the hobby. 

For the guys here at JD.com...I look at it like this, if you average what I spent on the Biker with the total number of cases I have pre-ordered and plus what I HOPE to get a retail, it just adds a dollar a piece, and I am ok with that.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/luke.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/han.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/Biker.jpg)

This little brochure came with EACH figure. I'm going to get  a shot of where they are located.  I fear that RETAIL is going to have  a problem, any unsavory type could easily remove these and not have a problem getting the Lucas Commtech Stormie.  This one is from HAN, I will scan Luke's when I open it.  The little foil Token is what you have to affix to the Luke's brochure.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/mailin.jpg)

ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 17, 2006, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the great images Paul!

It seems the most important point is that you will need one of each of five different tabs from the figures in order to get the mail-away figure.  In other words, army builders that have multiples of one or two figures won't be able to get the figure unless they buy all five.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 17, 2006, 08:08 PM
I don't like the GL figure, but I do think it's cool that you need to buy all 5 figures in order to send off for it.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on March 17, 2006, 08:10 PM
Seems like collector abuse by the Hasbro marketing folks to me.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 17, 2006, 08:48 PM
Seems like collector abuse by the Hasbro marketing folks to me.

I would agree if the giveaway was something I wanted..but this particular exclusive is not really my thing...

Ok who is up for more photos...keep in mind photography is not my thing, as stated in earlier posts.

The location of the redemption rules and "tabs".

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4570.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4571.jpg)

And now Mr. Skywalker:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4573.jpg)

With Helmet

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4577.jpg)

He has a FULL saber, a saber hilt, a pistol and helmet...the helmet is VERY spongy and is kinda tough to get off.  The good news (to me at least) is the head is molded in skin tone, NOT painted.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4578.jpg)

Mr. Solo.....

WOW a surprise is in this one...but you have to wait till the last photo to see it...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4579.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4581.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4582.jpg)

IS that a removable vest??? WHY yes it is!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4585.jpg)

But WAIT, the belt comes off EASILY too...it is the Carkoon/Carbonite Han that SHOULD have been!!!! (in my opinion)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4586.jpg)


And now for Paul's vot for FIGURE OF THE YEAR....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4555.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4565.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4561.jpg)

HE FITS ON THE BIKE!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4556.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4562.jpg)

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on March 17, 2006, 08:53 PM
That Luke is simplying amazing. Actually all of 3 of them are great. Now Im gonna have to get a loose set. Besides the loose Biker Scouts I want.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on March 17, 2006, 08:54 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o

That Han kicks ass, but that biker scout and that Luke - its a four way tie for me so far!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 17, 2006, 08:54 PM
the Form inside LUKE's package

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/front.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/back.jpg)

The battery on the camera is out so I will charge it overnight, if anybody has any specific requests.

I got a request from somebody for a comparison shot:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4590.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4589.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on March 17, 2006, 08:57 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4556.jpg)

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!  That is such good news to see that he actually fits on the bike.   :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: roron corobb on March 17, 2006, 09:58 PM

The location of the redemption rules and "tabs".

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4570.jpg)


I hope that we don't see a number of thieft of these being that all you have to do is open the Star Case to get the tab and order form.

Awesome Biker Scout. The figure rocks. Thanks for the small review of them.
roron corobb
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dan on March 17, 2006, 10:26 PM
Excellent pics- Thanks for sharing the goodness. I'm more glad now that I ordered a case.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Flacksguy on March 17, 2006, 10:39 PM

Thanks for the great pics Paul!!!!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on March 17, 2006, 11:07 PM
Paul.. those look FANTASTIC. Thanks for taking the time to share.

What a surprise with the Han. That's a big leap from the first vOTC one. Nice, nice, nice.

So it looks like the Scout has ankle joints after all. Is that right?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 17, 2006, 11:26 PM
Thank you , thank you, thank you Paul! I'm not sure about the Luke x-wing, he looks a bit wonky. Hopefully my opinion will change once he's in hand, but the fact he has all of those accessories is outstanding. Han's looking to be a jem, the removable vest and belt is cool.

But I do have one question, does anyone think the uber-articulation is hurting the look of the figures?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on March 17, 2006, 11:32 PM
Hold on a minute, what the hell hilt is that with Luke that is rubbered to his waist? It sure looks like a Vader saber to me, what's the deal Bill McNeal???? Could Hasbro have F'ed the pooch again? Nah... Never.  ::)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 17, 2006, 11:34 PM
Paul.. those look FANTASTIC. Thanks for taking the time to share.

What a surprise with the Han. That's a big leap from the first vOTC one. Nice, nice, nice.

So it looks like the Scout has ankle joints after all. Is that right?

Yes Ankle Articulation.
Hold on a minute, what the hell hilt is that with Luke that is rubbered to his waist? It sure looks like a Vader saber to me, what's the deal Bill McNeal???? Could Hasbro have F'ed the pooch again? Nah... Never. ::)

I'll get close up photo's of it tomorrow next to the Full saber as a comparison.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 18, 2006, 12:42 PM

So it looks like the Scout has ankle joints after all. Is that right?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4602.jpg)

And  a few comparison Pics:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4591.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4593.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4598.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4603.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4608.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4609.jpg)

Lukes saber and the Belt Saber.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4595.jpg)

A quick custom for folks who didn't like the headsculpt:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4604.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 18, 2006, 01:10 PM
More great pics.  8)

Paul, is it just me, or is the VTSC Luke slouching to one side?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 18, 2006, 01:23 PM
He has that Torso/abdominal articulation so he is slouched in the picture he can stand up straight, I just got lazy with that photo.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CorranHorn on March 18, 2006, 02:30 PM
Excellent pics Paul, you've just made me really excited to find these 3 figures in stores. Cheers!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 18, 2006, 02:35 PM
Thank you for those awesome pics pmundheim - those look fantastic!

The Luke is obviously a huge upgrade as is the Scout Trooper.  Man you must be enjoying those figures.

The Han, I'm liking too.  If it wasn't so close to the ANH look, I'd get several.  As it stands, I'll probably get two of them to open.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 18, 2006, 03:09 PM
Man you must be enjoying those figures.


SO TRUE...My wife and daughter are out of town till tomorrow afternoon.....I've got the ewok village almost set up (I can't find rails for that thing) and as soon as I get it set up and find my other speeder bikes, it will be ON!!!!!

The biker scout really is the version of that figure I have wanted since seeing the VOTC line in 2004.  I am sure there are some "flaws" in it that somebody can find, but right now, I am too stoked.  Makes me glad I had some PayPal to burn.  And I almost wish I would have snagged the Greedo that the Red5Six had too, but I've ordered 6 cases from various e-tailers so far and I don't really want that many of him.

By the way if anybody wants the "tabs" from Biker Scout, Han and Luke and the order forms, let me know, I'll send to to you FREE.  I am going to end up with plenty.  Just PM me and they are yours. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Artoo on March 18, 2006, 04:58 PM
Hi,I'm the Artoo from Rebel scum for those of you over there.I can't wait for these to come out in Florida,especally that Scout,nice pictures!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mike S on March 18, 2006, 10:48 PM
Hello,
I've never posted here but I had to register to thank the people responsible for posting the magnificent VOTC pics.
These all look spectacular and I cannot wait to get them!
Thanks to all!




(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4603.jpg)

Seems to be a common problem with the Carbonite Solos;
I've noticed that the paint aps on the hair have been quite bad on some.
I had to look at three different Han's before I picked mine out.
Maybe they were painted on a monday morning?  ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on March 18, 2006, 11:55 PM
Nice photos Paul, thanks kindly for providing them :o :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 19, 2006, 01:30 AM
P- did you buy these from Red5six? Can I ask how much they were?
    They look great..thanks for the pics again! 8)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 19, 2006, 08:35 AM
P- did you buy these from Red5six? Can I ask how much they were?
 They look great..thanks for the pics again! 8)

I got them from him off of Ebay, I think they were $24 a piece, but I used PayPal that had been sitting for months in my account, and I don't look at PayPal like it's real money, it's like chips in Vegas....

The price is what kept me from snagging Greedo or another Tusken Raider.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 19, 2006, 10:35 AM
Han Shrunk! ???

Thank's again for the pictures. Great to see that Hans head scuplt is new afterall.

My guess Jesse, is that Luke is slouching due to his ball jointed torso.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Artoo on March 19, 2006, 11:41 AM
Can you post pictures comparing the scout to the the VOTC Stormtrooper & this year's AT-AT Driver? ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 19, 2006, 11:46 AM
Can you post pictures comparing the scout to the the VOTC Stormtrooper & this year's AT-AT Driver? ;D

Excellent idea!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Artoo on March 19, 2006, 01:50 PM
Can you post pictures comparing the scout to the the VOTC Stormtrooper & this year's AT-AT Driver? ;D

Excellent idea!
Thanks,I want to see all 3 of the most-SA imperial troopers together.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 19, 2006, 10:03 PM
Can you post pictures comparing the scout to the the VOTC Stormtrooper & this year's AT-AT Driver? ;D

Here you go, again, I apologize for the quality of the photos.  My wife is not back yet with the good camera....Also I am going out of town for business tomorrow early, so if there are more requests, they'll have to get covered Friday.   But I do plan on taking Biker Scout, Han Endor, VOTC Chewie and some VOTC stormies on the trip..

Here are the group shots:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4613.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4614.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4616.jpg)

and a bit of humor, the Imperial Version of "Hear no Eviil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil"

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4615.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Artoo on March 19, 2006, 10:21 PM
Thanks,dude! :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 19, 2006, 11:43 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4616.jpg)


That would make a great avatar...  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on March 20, 2006, 10:41 AM
Great pictures pmundheim, thanks so much for sharing.  All of the figures look great to me, and I really like the comparison/group shots as well.  The Han is even better than I was hoping, and everything looks new there as well.  I'm hoping to get a few of that one.  The Scout, is of course amazing, and I like the shot w/his other imperial "homeboys".  It really reminds me how we need a Snowtrooper done in that style as well too, to fit in with the rest :).  Thanks again for the pics, can't wait to get a hold of these (several I'm hoping).
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2006, 11:16 AM
Those are great pics.  I think you're ready for a photonovel now.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: jedipurge on March 20, 2006, 12:59 PM
those are great pics.  thank you.  thank you.  thank you.  seems if hasbro or customizer could easily repaint the arms and vest a dark blue and you'll have a perfect bespin han.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Zodach on March 22, 2006, 03:15 PM
Man, that Han Solo is like 3 figures in 1.  I definitely need to get 2 of him - 1 for Endor and 1 for the Cantina since I missed out on the original VOTC Han.  Right now the only figure I don't want doubles of his Greedo.  All the rest I want 2-3 of each. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 22, 2006, 05:06 PM
I agree... I think the Greedo will be a pegwarmer.  Han might too, to some degree.  The VOTC Han was a pegwarmer.

I wonder how much they will produce these.  With 5 figures in it, I think they will keep the run pretty high, but who knows. 

I'm surprised an Emperor isn't in this.  They could have used the Evolutions body w/ a new head/hands.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: John C on March 22, 2006, 05:54 PM
those are great pics.  thank you.  thank you.  thank you.  seems if hasbro or customizer could easily repaint the arms and vest a dark blue and you'll have a perfect bespin han.

Or you can just take the jacket off of the Princess Leia Collection Bespin Han and you're all set.  That's what I'm doing.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on March 22, 2006, 06:18 PM
I agree... I think the Greedo will be a pegwarmer.  Han might too, to some degree.  The VOTC Han was a pegwarmer.

Yeah, I think you'll be right with those two. I really wish they'd announce a refresh case with 1x Han, 1x Greedo, 1x Luke, and 3x Tuskens and 4x Scouts. That would compensate for what I think the pegs will look like after the first restocks happen and those Greedos, Hans, and Lukes start lingering.

I'd like an Emperor like that as well, but I'd want them to take another shot at the robes and correct the underscaled hood.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 22, 2006, 07:16 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4616.jpg)


That would make a great avatar...  ;D

I don't know guys, the head on that biker scout is a little small and out of scale.  I think that helmet should be about 25% bigger.  I'm not too nuts about it.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 22, 2006, 09:16 PM
I think the helmet might be a bit underscaled too... but the Stormtrooper one definitely is... or at least I think so.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 23, 2006, 01:59 AM
I dunno, it's smaller than stormtrooper helmets so I'm ok with it right now...  It's a snug fit on the actors from what I'd seen of "real" ones off the extras...  So I'm pretty content with that figure myself.

Paul, more awesome photos man.  Thanks for sharing.  You can't imagine my envy right now, haha. :)

The Han is great too because I agree, it's like 3 figures in one...  w/out the holster he's Carkoon Solo (as he should've been).  W/out the coat he's Endor Bunker Han (as he should've been).  Obviously w/the jacket he's the perfect Endor Landing Solo.

I'm all about buying multiple Solo figures at this point.  I'm gonna go broke as hell buying this series.

I'm not TOO concerned about pegwarming yet.  Finding the Scouts and Sandpeople I want I am concerned about.  For Han and the gang, this is one wave...  While ANH VOTC Han sat, I blame that in part because that was a staggered series of waves for each film...  Every store ordered assloads of ANH wave and they backed up the other waves.  It was silly.  Han was just a victim (as god knows we all are) of retail ignorance.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 23, 2006, 09:36 AM
I agree... I think the Greedo will be a pegwarmer.  Han might too, to some degree.  The VOTC Han was a pegwarmer.

Yeah, I think you'll be right with those two. I really wish they'd announce a refresh case with 1x Han, 1x Greedo, 1x Luke, and 3x Tuskens and 4x Scouts. That would compensate for what I think the pegs will look like after the first restocks happen and those Greedos, Hans, and Lukes start lingering.


I would agree, however, I think the mail way offer is definately going to force the sale of some figure that wouldn't normally sell. But, the question is, is it possible to remove the sticker for the offer and then return the figure afterwards? >:(
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 23, 2006, 09:39 AM
Any definitive word on whether the GL Stormie is the CT version, or the VOTC version?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on March 23, 2006, 09:46 PM

I would agree, however, I think the mail way offer is definately going to force the sale of some figure that wouldn't normally sell. But, the question is, is it possible to remove the sticker for the offer and then return the figure afterwards? >:(

EASILY.  I was amazed how easy the clamshells opened up.  And we are not even talking about taking home and returning it later....it could be done in the store and nobody would think you were doing anything other than "inspecting" the card.  I imagine the people who "collect to collect profits" will definately be using the old return trick.  The redemption "token" "tab" whatever is in the package with one piece of tape.  It is conceivable to even get the tab out without taking the "brochure" so as to appear that it was never missing. 


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4571.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4570.jpg)


Here is a size comparison shot, that is a US Nickel also a shot of what they look like in "captivity".

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/img012.jpg)

Those are great pics. I think you're ready for a photonovel now. :)

I don't know, those take more creativity than I have these days...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on March 26, 2006, 06:32 PM
This guy has loose Biker Scouts for 10 bucks. Just a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6046990157
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on March 28, 2006, 11:48 AM
Err, I know this has probably already been mentioned somewhere- I could've missed it in this thread even- but when exactly are these supposed to be released in stores? I've read "April," but does anyone know a date? Also, does anyone know of any places likely to carry them besides Toys R Us/Target? Will Wal Mart have them?

Personally I hope Han's a pegwarmer just so I can find one! Especially not having a VOTC Han yet, I really want one of these. Super-articulation, a nice trenchcoat, a removeable vest and belt... what more can you ask of old Han besides maybe a better likeness? Plus given a choice, I want a superb ROTJ version of Han more than an ANH one. Not that I won't still try to buy one of those for my collection... then I'd be in "Han Heaven" as it were. Well, except maybe Bespin Han... I guess you could buy the POTF2 "Princess Leia Collection" figure and steal his jacket at put it on VTSC Han? Hmm... EDIT: oops, sorry John C, missed your post when I said this.

Speaking of a better likeness though... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4604.jpg

Did you actually swap heads, or is that superimposed?? If a headswap is possible/easy even, I have a well-painted Carbonite Han head and the idea is very, very tempting...

I also need a/some Scout Troopers and one of those Lukes <3 You know what's funny is that even though Luke seems to come with a Vader hilt, I'd still find it useful because I don't have a Vader hilt. (I think the VOTC Vader is the only figure that came with one actually; sadly the Evolutions figure doesn't even have one! And then they packaged Anakin with two hilts and only one blade *scratches head* Maybe they meant to include a Vader hilt then and accidentally got another Luke/Anakin hilt?)

The Sandpeople and Greedo are cool, but I consider them extra and I'll only get some if I happen to find them in stores and have enough money after everything else I'm going to be buying for a while.

I'm really excited about this Han, though. I can't wait to have one of those and a VOTC Chewbacca... and the great thing is they'd both be in ROTJ mode!

Thanks for posting all these nice pictures!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on March 28, 2006, 12:26 PM
This guy has loose Biker Scouts for 10 bucks. Just a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6046990157

Thanks MetalJedi, I was able to get three of them.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on March 28, 2006, 12:49 PM
You greedy bastards didn't give me a chance!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2006, 07:41 PM
Mitsu,

Generally when things start popping up on Ebay, especially in Asia, you're looking at a month or so out before they're in the states...  Just a general round-about answer to your question.

They could be here pretty soon then...  They've been surfacing now for a little bit, so that means they're on the boats and maybe in the ports by now...  Get through customs, to distribution centers and out to stores.

VTSC isn't to be limited by anyone's estimation.  All retailers carrying Star Wars routinely are supposedly to be carrying VTSC...  KB, K-Mart, Target, TRU, Wal-Mart, and any of those goofy assed stores I've never heard of but which are in abundance elsewhere from where I live. :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on March 28, 2006, 08:04 PM
This guy has loose Biker Scouts for 10 bucks. Just a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6046990157

Thanks MetalJedi, I was able to get three of them.   :)

 :P

Anytime. Was able to get 2 myself.  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2006, 05:17 AM
Bastards.  :)

Good score though, I saw someone with 15 loose ones...  My god what a glorious photo.

I can't wait for this figure...  It's simply perfect...  or as close to such as is humanly possible for Hasbro.

I'm really hoping that, with only one wave, that the VTSC are pretty abundant and easy to find...  I reiterate early sentiments that we need a second refresher with the army builders outnumbering Han, Luke, and let's just leave Greedo off the next case. ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2006, 03:07 PM
For all you folks with deep pockets, it looks like ToyRocket has the 2006 "vintage" Saga Collection figures IN STOCK (http://www.toyrocket.com/jsp/catalog/productsfind.jsp?find=vintage%20saga).

They run $20 or $30 each, but if you just can't wait you can get them now...  ;)


So, they are on eBay and now the "import from Asia" e-tailers are starting to get them in-stock.  It should only be another couple weeks before they hit retail! 

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 1, 2006, 09:28 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/vtscscout.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Biker_Scout)

Are you ready for a little tease?

If so, then tonight's Image Database update is for you! Today, the JediDefender photography department added high-res loose photos of the first figure from Hasbro's The Saga Collection "Vintage" wave! Click on the thumbnail above to check out the photos of the Biker Scout figure (and prepare to drool)!

No April Foolin' here, this figure is freakin' sweet.   8)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 1, 2006, 09:35 PM
Nice pics. I can't wait to get my 2 Scouts in the mail.  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: iFett on April 1, 2006, 09:54 PM
Sweet pics of the Scout on his bike Jeff!!  Now we just need a speeder bike that's proportioned so the nose doesn't sit so close to the ground - always frustrated me..

Wasn't the CW one redesigned with alternate "handlebars?"  Other than that though, it used the same mold, correct?

Sorry for not saying more about the trooper, but what more can you say than AWESOME!!  Always been my favorite trooper out of the OT and this new scuplt has been well deserved for quite some time now.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 1, 2006, 10:11 PM
Nice pics. I can't wait to get my 2 Scouts in the mail.  ;D

Wangyonghai rules. :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 1, 2006, 10:18 PM
Nice pics. I can't wait to get my 2 Scouts in the mail.  ;D

Wangyonghai rules. :)

For hookin up collectors for basically retail and cheap shipping heck ya.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on April 2, 2006, 03:07 AM
Those pictures of Jared's are outstanding. 

The guy has the touch...  And those figures are amazing.  The Scout is easily (by image only of course) Hasbro's best work in the VOTC/VTSC line if you ask me.  Simply outstanding detail there.

I can't wait to own a couple dozen AT LEAST of that figure.  The way he sits on the bike...  I ALMOST could care less if I got a new bike...  almost.  I still want a new scale one. :)

Jared, my hat's off to you for the highest quality photos on the net, nice work.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 2, 2006, 12:06 PM
Those pictures of Jared's are outstanding. 

The guy has the touch...  And those figures are amazing.  The Scout is easily (by image only of course) Hasbro's best work in the VOTC/VTSC line if you ask me.  Simply outstanding detail there.

I can't wait to own a couple dozen AT LEAST of that figure.  The way he sits on the bike...  I ALMOST could care less if I got a new bike...  almost.  I still want a new scale one. :)

Jared, my hat's off to you for the highest quality photos on the net, nice work.

Agree with everything here. Thanks a ton Jared.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on April 3, 2006, 10:17 AM
Yeah, great pics Jared, and thanks.  The figure looks great, and I can't wait to get 4-5 of these (or more) if possible.  Honestly, from the pics, it looks to be one of the best of the line so far.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 4, 2006, 03:08 AM
Hey, I can't find the case pricing info I saw previously... What was the cheapest place to get these? How much was it on starwarsshop.com? I can't find the listing. Was that for members only? ???

I found it; Newforce. Anybody still need someone to spilt their case with? :-\
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on April 4, 2006, 02:04 PM
Err- I'm sorry, I don't mean to annoy but I think a question of mine got lost somewhere. In the photos a pack or two back there's one of a VTSC Han with a Carbonite Han on it- is that a real headswap or superimpose?

If a headswap is easy/possible I'm contemplating trying to do that myself since I have a good/nicely painted Carbonie Han head (his eyes are looking forward and not up, the hair's all good, etc.) I could use; if you repainted VTSC Han's hands and neck he'd look awesome I think, because I really think the Carbonite Han is one of the best likenesses of Harrison Ford that has been produced yet.

Sorry if this post is an annoyance or anything, but I'd really like to know. Thanks :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 4, 2006, 08:10 PM
Does anyone have the DCPI # for Target for these?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 4, 2006, 08:21 PM
Does anyone have the DCPI # for Target for these?

The answer you seek lies in the Target DPCI #s for TSC (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10562.0) thread...  ;)

3.75" vTSC Figures:  087-06-1511 - $11.99
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on April 4, 2006, 08:24 PM
Err- I'm sorry, I don't mean to annoy but I think a question of mine got lost somewhere. In the photos a pack or two back there's one of a VTSC Han with a Carbonite Han on it- is that a real headswap or superimpose?


Yup it's a headswap I did when I was taking comparison pics.  For once the head posts were the same size or close enough.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 4, 2006, 08:26 PM
Does anyone have the DCPI # for Target for these?

The answer you seek lies in the Target DPCI #s for TSC (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10562.0) thread...  ;)

3.75" vTSC Figures:  087-06-1511 - $11.99

Thanks Jeff  :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on April 4, 2006, 09:48 PM
Awesome, thank you Paul! I might very well be making that custom myself then :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dan on April 4, 2006, 10:43 PM
According to the scum, they are here....
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 5, 2006, 12:40 AM
According to JD, they're confirmed as arriving at Targets right now.  ;)

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JayDouble on April 5, 2006, 01:05 AM
What's the price on them Jared?   

Nice score too.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 5, 2006, 01:08 AM
11.99. The first Target I tried wouldn't bring them out because they're mark with a hold date of 4/29. Looks like they plan to take the May exclusives thing seriously.

Hey Paul, were your clamshell cases heat-sealed? I'm trying to open Han and the tabs are sealed at 7 points. There's no way I can see getting this open without trashing the plastic case.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ryan on April 5, 2006, 01:30 AM
11.99. The first Target I tried wouldn't bring them out because they're mark with a hold date of 4/29. Looks like they plan to take the May exclusives thing seriously.

Hey Paul, were your clamshell cases heat-sealed? I'm trying to open Han and the tabs are sealed at 7 points. There's no way I can see getting this open without trashing the plastic case.

Wait these are a Target exlcusive?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 5, 2006, 01:33 AM
Oops, sorry, I guess that was poorly worded. I was just lumping all of the UGH stuff together, and figured they'd be shooting for a weekend to do an endcap with the vTSC along with their exclusive Grievous figure and Skirmish Battle Pack.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ben on April 5, 2006, 02:14 AM
I hope they wait until May to release them. I have no cashage for them right now.  >:(
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 5, 2006, 02:50 AM
I hope they wait until May to release them. I have no cashage for them right now.  >:(

Me too. Too much damned stuff coming. These and Grievous... God knows when the Tatooine wave will show. And the Lucas Family set... :-\
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ryan on April 5, 2006, 03:02 AM
It'll be nice when the "Greatest Hits wave" hits, so I finally get a break. Don't get me wrong I love the stuff but I think 1 wave a month would be plenty in a non-movie year.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on April 5, 2006, 08:05 AM
11.99. The first Target I tried wouldn't bring them out because they're mark with a hold date of 4/29. Looks like they plan to take the May exclusives thing seriously.

Hey Paul, were your clamshell cases heat-sealed? I'm trying to open Han and the tabs are sealed at 7 points. There's no way I can see getting this open without trashing the plastic case.

The ones I got from Red5Sixx had 4 pieces of tape on each one (one on each side and 2 on top).  The Tusken that I got on ebay from the "Kansas Wal-Mart" had the same.

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 5, 2006, 09:21 AM
Heat seal is awsome! I was worried aout people ripping the POP's off. As for the hold date, that's interesting. I wonder if it's on the box.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 5, 2006, 03:27 PM
Heat Seal?

Well then, there goes my idea of trying to sneak the tabs out of my carded set to send away for a 2nd Lucastrooper.   :-\

I guess it's a good move if it's going to reduce theft/swaps though...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on April 5, 2006, 03:42 PM
I wonder if maybe the Target in the city I'm going to is more lax and either accidentally stuck them out, or would get one out if I asked :)

Doubt it, but I'll be trying. ;) I need that Endor Han!

But if they don't come out until May, I guess I can probably still get them then. Just need to make sure I can go out of town if our Wal Mart is too lame to ever bother stocking them...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2006, 03:58 PM
Holy ****, $11.99 is ridiculous.

These prices have gotten out of hand.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 5, 2006, 04:23 PM
So I guess that heat seal thing is a running change. Interesting.

Heat Seal?

Well then, there goes my idea of trying to sneak the tabs out of my carded set to send away for a 2nd Lucastrooper.   :-\

I guess it's a good move if it's going to reduce theft/swaps though...

Blows my plan too. There's no way of getting in there. I figured the exact same, and I'd just sneak in there, pull the pack out, and close it up again. Not happening though.

I put up the carded (with clamshell) images into the image database, and you can see the seal points around the outside of the shell.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Han_Solo_%28in_Trench_Coat%29/tn_vtsc_han_cardf.jpg)
vTSC Han Gallery (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Han_Solo_(in_Trench_Coat))
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 5, 2006, 04:28 PM
Man, I can't wait for you to get the Image Database updated with all of these...

Be sure to get a nice picture of Endor Han with vOTC Chewie in there for me.   :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 5, 2006, 04:32 PM
Comin' up soon.  :)

I was a little surprised to see that Endor Han is not 100% new. His legs use VTOC Han's legs/feet, holster, and head. The (c) 2004 is still on the bottom of the left foot. Not that it's bad, but a surprise none the less.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Diddly on April 5, 2006, 10:13 PM
Oh my, how Han kicks ass. I can't wait to get my hands on these figures.

Jared, how hard is it to get the vest off of Han?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 5, 2006, 11:22 PM
I tried to take it off for a pic but chickened out.  :-\ Maybe Paul has a good strategy.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on April 6, 2006, 12:00 AM
Well I got a chance to see Paul's VTSC figures the other day - and they really are as good as they look in the pictures, especially the scout.

Luke's legs are a big goofy to me, but it's a small complaint compared to the overall quality level...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 6, 2006, 12:11 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Han_Solo_%28in_Trench_Coat%29/tn_vtsc_han_cardf.jpg)
vTSC Han Gallery (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Han_Solo_(in_Trench_Coat))

Wow, once agiain your pictures are the best Jared.  I cannot wait until I get a chance to get my hands on these figures!   :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on April 6, 2006, 12:13 AM
I agree, thank you Jared for those outstanding pics of the Han.  Wow.  I was thinking I'd only get a few of these.  Damnit.  I know I'm going to want many more than I had planned.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 6, 2006, 12:14 AM
Great pictures Jared! Thanks.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: John C on April 6, 2006, 09:18 AM
Congratulations on the find, Jared.  Thanks for the pictures.  Hopefully they leak at more Targets.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on April 6, 2006, 10:47 AM
Great pics as always Jared, thanks for sharing.  Congrats on the find too!  Hopefully these will be showing up everywhere pretty soon, and it good quantities.  I can't wait to get a hold of a few of those Hans, not to mention the others.  I thought the first VOTC Han was the best figure I've ever owned, but this one looks like it could top that one even.  I really hope we see this line continue in the future.  Sure, the price kind of stinks, but I really like the overall concept of the line...and the great figures we get from it.  Good stuff.  Your pictures make the wait even tougher ;).
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on April 6, 2006, 10:57 PM
To paraphrase Captain Kirk:

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

Those are awesome pictures! Thanks!! And I really need a VOTC Chewie to go with him, too... although good ol' Falcon Mechanic Chewie can stand in if money doesn't agree with that sentiment. That is, he can stand in about three poses, but oh well :P He's sculpted good at least.

Yep yep, though, Hasbro's definately getting at least $36 from me with this line if I can find them :) Don't know if I need the Sandtrooper and Greedo- they're cool, but they're novelties to me. I need to catch up and get a VOTC Lando and such first.

I can't decide on that headsculpt, though. I might kitbash him... but maybe not. It's definately not the worst Han had out there, but I don't know if it really rivals Carbonite Han, either.

Has anyone else noticed that Hasbro seems to consider the VOTC Han head sculpt the greatest or something, though? They stuck him on a standard neckpost (which looks a little mishapen in the preview pictures... something I'm assuming they'll fix) for the new Cantina Han, as well. Guess they didn't like Carbonite Han :(
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 7, 2006, 03:42 PM
The scout's awesome. Like everyone else, I want a couple more.

Greedo's great! Finally the definitive Greedo. Thank God the OTC plastic vest fits over his big ol' fingers; I hate the lame cloth one. He looks great without a vest, too.

Tusken's neat. Really needs ball elbows, though. $12.99 and they had to half ass it?

Wow, Han's a colossal piece of ****! I'm shocked. How can a figure based almost entirely on the amazingly excellent VOTC Han be such a nugget? The torso joint is awful; with the vest off, it's quite visible in back. And what's wrong with the sculpt? It looks all bloated. ??? The legs are loose and wonky. This turd's going back to the store.

What saber did you guys get on Luke's belt? Mine has Vader's. ???
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on April 7, 2006, 11:27 PM
Colossal piece of ****?  ??? I guess he looks kind of funny because of his articulation- the ball shoulders aren't well-hidden, and the torso sculpting does suffer for having a swivel waist... but that brings up the question of which you prefer, sculpting or articulation. Me, the articulation doesn't really ruin his sculpting so it's kinda cool.

I guess with the two Hans out there, they cater to both sides of the argument. Then again, if you just want good sculpting we have the normal Saga line for that; Carbonite Han's sculptwork exceeds both VOTC/VTSC figures IMO, but his articulation is dull and very 1999ish.

Take your pick :P But personally, I crave one of the things.

I can agree about the elbow joints there, didn't know the Tusken Raider had those- angle cuts are fine on $6 figures, you can argue for it when the VOTC line was $10, but what the heck is a $13 figure doing with angle cuts that could just as easily be ball joints?? If he at least has ball shoulders I guess it might be okay for posing, but it still seems kinda lame.

I'm pretty sure Luke comes with Vader's hilt in this line. Oops. But, it'll balance out for my collection if I get one of those and an Evolutions Anakin set, since I can probably swap the saber hilts out and Vader can have a hilt :)

Not 100% sure but I think that hilt is identical to VOTC Vader's, the only time (I think?) Vader was produced with a bladeless hilt (except for Saga "Bespin Duel" vader and his metal hilt, which was identical to the metal Luke hilt) in 3 3/4" scale.

Vader's hilt is the most similar saber hilt to the Anakin/Luke hilt, which is probably why Hasbro made the mistake...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 7, 2006, 11:29 PM
Just tried the Greedo jacket swap as well, Ook. I'm now actually happy with Greedo!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Greedo/vtsc_gree_fcstm.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: starkid500 on April 7, 2006, 11:49 PM
grrrrrr i cant find even a speck of dust.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 8, 2006, 12:47 AM
Kudos to Jared once again... I can't wait to get my hands on these!   :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Greedo/vtsc_gree_ac11.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on April 8, 2006, 12:55 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Bobafett77 on April 8, 2006, 12:59 AM
I opened up the set that I found yesterday and I absolutely LOVE these figures. Worth every penny spent on them!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Diddly on April 8, 2006, 01:46 AM
Jared's pics are once again fantastic. Looks like I'll have to buy an OTC Greedo to switch vests with the VOTC2 one.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Matt on April 8, 2006, 05:39 AM
Re: Greedo

The thing that gets me is--look how good that 1999 sculpt is compared to the new version:

pic (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Greedo&image=vtsc_gree_comp.jpg&img=&tt=)

The head on the new one may be a tad more accurate, and the new belt/holster is obviously better than the old one, and of course the articulation is better, but that old vest is better than the new vest in every possible way (and I usually like soft goods stuff). 

It reminds me of the 2004 Saga Bossk vs. the 1997 POTF2 Bossk issue--other than some articulation, there were really no discernable differences between the two. 

I don't think I'll ever understand why The Big H decided to re-do Greedo in this set, when there were at least ten or twenty other figures that they could have gone with instead.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 8, 2006, 05:43 AM
My favorite hands down is the Tusken. I know that more people will like and probably want the Biker Scout, but I just love everything on the Tusken! Finally one that makes sense! Cannot wait to do a couple of diaramha's showing the Anakin scene in Ep. II as he emerges from the hut where Shimi has just died; and also a scene with Tusken's shooting in Ep. I AND the Ep. IV scene with Luke and the Tusken!
Guess I need to find my Bantha and see how these look next to that.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 8, 2006, 10:31 AM
Colossal piece of ****?  ??? I guess he looks kind of funny because of his articulation- the ball shoulders aren't well-hidden, and the torso sculpting does suffer for having a swivel waist... but that brings up the question of which you prefer, sculpting or articulation. Me, the articulation doesn't really ruin his sculpting so it's kinda cool.

I guess with the two Hans out there, they cater to both sides of the argument. Then again, if you just want good sculpting we have the normal Saga line for that; Carbonite Han's sculptwork exceeds both VOTC/VTSC figures IMO, but his articulation is dull and very 1999ish.

I totally want posability so long as it isn't rendered ridiculously (eg GI Joe, bleah). I guess I was just stunned that he looks so much less nice than VOTC Han, especially since he's almost an exact copy. ??? The legs are entirely reused, aren't they? Maybe mine just look bad because they're so awfully loose. They're all contorted. And I'm not sure I'm going to like the ball torsos on humans... They're great on troopers, but Han's looks bad to me. And my VTSC Luke's is a tad loose. Anyway, this Han is in awful shape. I'm going to take it back for replacement. I'll definitely give the fig another chance; hopefully I'll get a good one and discover that most of my disgust was due only to a bad production example.

In other news, I keep fretting over a wee paint chip on Luke's neck... ::)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 8, 2006, 10:31 AM
The Tusken is awesome. I wish these were priced along with the regular figures. I'll probbaly end up getting a few more Tuskens anyway.  :-\
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 8, 2006, 10:33 AM
The Tusken is awesome. I wish these were priced along with the regular figures. I'll probbaly end up getting a few more Tuskens anyway.  :-\

I might get a second. Three bikers would be cool.

I really love Greedo. :) I like the OTC plastic vest on him, but I keep posing him with no vest. He looks damn nice without it. Love that holster, too.

Just tried the Greedo jacket swap as well, Ook. I'm now actually happy with Greedo!

Great! :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 8, 2006, 09:03 PM
After popping open my set, I have to say I'm both more impressed and a tad disappointed.

Biker Scout, surpasses all expectations. I can't say enough about it.

Greedo, vest aside, is perfect.

Tuscan Raider, still exploring the figure, but it's a little better than I thought it would be.

Luke, actually looks much better in person than in pictures. As others have said, the stance is a bit weird, but I can live with it. What's with the blaster not fitting the hand BTW?

Han in the most disappointing figure in the bunch in my opinion. Same head sculpt, legs, holster and hands (modified for this sculpt) as the first VOTC and his shirt sculpt doesn't quite capture Han's look in ROTJ.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 9, 2006, 09:39 AM
Biker Scout, surpasses all expectations. I can't say enough about it.

Yes! ;D


Greedo, vest aside, is perfect.

Yes! ;D

(BTW, has everyone noticed he has ball-jointed ankles? I had no idea from the pics. They're completely invisible!)


Luke, actually looks much better in person than in pictures. As others have said, the stance is a bit weird, but I can live with it. What's with the blaster not fitting the hand BTW?

I was just playing with Luke, and I'm really appreciating the figure now. I've thought the body/suit sculpt was akward... Something about the joints and sculpting of the suit? He's a great fig, though. I think he'll take VOTC Tatooine Luke's place in my set-up. Never cared for the giant fabric shirt. Yeah, I noticed his gun not fitting right. Would've been nice to have a holster. What's the deal with giving him Vader's saber hilt? ??? Have they even scultpted the Anakin/Luke blue saber hilt (with or without belt peg)? I don't think they have. Maybe that explains it... ???


Han in the most disappointing figure in the bunch in my opinion. Same head sculpt, legs, holster and hands (modified for this sculpt) as the first VOTC and his shirt sculpt doesn't quite capture Han's look in ROTJ.

You may have noticed my comments on this guy. My biggest disappointment too. I dunno... I think the legs on mine are crippled. I'm taking him back for another and if that sucks too, that'll be the end of General Solo.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2006, 01:44 PM
Now that I have a few Biker Scouts, I have to admit I want at least a dozen more of the Biker Scout.  It's just unreal how well they made this figure.

Greedo - I agree that the old one has a great sculpt, but I love the articulation this one has.  It's worth VOTC price to get one like this to me, but I'll still swap out the old vest on this one.

Tusken - Each time I see a new pic of it, it looks better.  I am sure I will want about 8-10 of him.

Han - 3-4 of them and I'll be happy.

Luke - Again, probably 3-4 of them.

 :)

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ook on April 9, 2006, 07:28 PM
I got a second biker today, and his soft rubber belt is busted in back. Can't decide if I should bother exchanging it. Man, Hasbro had really better step up the quality control if they're going to continue to market $5-7 figures for $10-13. The first Han I got was paralyzed from the waist down. I found a decent one today, so I'll be keeping Solo. I also grabbed a second Luke to see if I could find one without the little paint flaws mine has. This one's head sits WAY lower on the neck than my first one. ??? And when I bent the elbows, the effing hands came right off! I think between the two I've found a decent Luke. I'll return all the ****** pieces in one convenient package. :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CorranHorn on April 9, 2006, 07:50 PM
Silly question that may have been answered, but I'd rather not go through 28 pages on the topic to find the answer. With Target selling the VTSC at $11.99, do we know what Walmart or TRU will be selling them for? If I recall correctly, when TSC started to appear in late December, it was Target who had the highest price, I'm wondering if that's the case here...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 9, 2006, 09:21 PM
A report a while back said they were in the Wal-Mart computer system for $10.96 or something like that. 

Not sure on TRU, but I guess they'd be in a similar $12 range as Target (maybe even as high as $13).
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Kill_Solo on April 10, 2006, 01:36 AM
I've seen the whole set of VTSC a couple of times (at TArget), but I've only picked up the Scout Troopers because I am waiting for my case from Newforce. The Scout Trooper is a figure from my Star Wars action figure dreams. It is so awesome I feel bad for the collectors in my area, because if I run across any, I'm going to buy them all. (I missed the boat for the VOTC Stormtroopers and I'm still pissed about that.)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on April 10, 2006, 01:48 AM
Han in the most disappointing figure in the bunch in my opinion. Same head sculpt, legs, holster and hands (modified for this sculpt) as the first VOTC and his shirt sculpt doesn't quite capture Han's look in ROTJ.

Different head sculpts.  Although I'd say I kind of wish they'd have just used the first head-sculpt in this instance, it looks better IMO.  With the coat on I'd say that the Han is my second favorite of the bunch.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4608.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2006, 03:51 PM
Once again, great pics of the VTSC X-Wing Luke there Jared.  Looks quite nice.  That group shot of all the pilots together kind of makes me want a resculpted Biggs.  Granted, I missed the first one anyways, but looking at this fellow pilots next to him, it looks like he could handle an upgrade.  Great pics.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on April 10, 2006, 05:10 PM
I just saw all of this wave at Target. I picked up a Biker Scout, and will probably pick up a Greedo later. The Scout is excellent, it is even better than the Evo Sandtrooper!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on April 10, 2006, 05:57 PM
I went out of town Thursday (the 6th) and didn't see any of these, so unless I go out of town again soon enough, I'll be waiting and hoping for these to pop up at our Wal Mart.

I'll have to be sure to check the whole aisle, since it seems the VTSCs are getting their own pegs at least in certain places, rather than mingling with the TSC figures.

I certainly hope that's right about the Wal Mart prices being $11; TSC figures have gone up to $6.60ish ("order 66 d00ds!" Sorry, bad reference to a refererence joke >.<) now it seems.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 10, 2006, 06:33 PM
Han in the most disappointing figure in the bunch in my opinion. Same head sculpt, legs, holster and hands (modified for this sculpt) as the first VOTC and his shirt sculpt doesn't quite capture Han's look in ROTJ.

Different head sculpts.  Although I'd say I kind of wish they'd have just used the first head-sculpt in this instance, it looks better IMO.  With the coat on I'd say that the Han is my second favorite of the bunch.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4608.jpg)

You know, I held both of mine up togeather and only noticed the paint difference. Must have had the lights down. I can see the difference now, but it dosn't seem all that much. I think I would have like the Saga Carbonite head better. :-X
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on April 10, 2006, 07:43 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/pmundheim/IMG_4608.jpg)



Apparently Han shrunk over time...  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CorranHorn on April 11, 2006, 11:04 PM
Has anyone else had problems opening the clamshells? I opened my first of two Biker Scouts and I had to tear apart the clamshell to get to the card. I see that the clamshell design is slightly different from the VOTC line in that there are indentations along the edges where there should be tape. I don't see any tape at all, so it's a bit more difficult to get these guys open. While I'm a loose collector, I've displayed all the VOTC cards in their clamshells as a sort of wallpaper and wanted to do the same with the VTSC. Any help here on this before I go opening the rest would be great. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on April 12, 2006, 09:53 AM
Has anyone else had problems opening the clamshells? I opened my first of two Biker Scouts and I had to tear apart the clamshell to get to the card.

I had to do that with my Biker Scout clamshell too... Apparently it's to prevent people from stealing the POPs and Redemption cards.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Bobafett77 on April 12, 2006, 11:48 PM
Yeah, there is definitely no salvaging these clamshells. I cut around the complete outer edge to get my figures out.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 13, 2006, 10:09 AM
I've actually cut the back portion on the clam shell. Not that I need to display them, or don't have extras from the stormie army, but It does allow one to remove the card and slip it back in if needed and have it look perfect from the front.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jeff on April 13, 2006, 10:54 AM
For those who don't always check the front page (shame on you!  >:(), I thought I'd let you know that Jared's worked his way though all five of the VTSC figures.  Click the thumbnails below to check them out if for some reason you haven't been checking already!   :P

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/vtscscout.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Biker_Scout)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-06/vtschan.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Han_Solo_(in_Trench_Coat))(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-06/vtscgreedo.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Greedo)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-06/vtscluke.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Luke_Skywalker_-_X-Wing_Pilot)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-06/vtsctusken.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Sand_People)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Matt on April 13, 2006, 11:08 AM
I hadn't noticed it yet (and I don't know if it's been mentioned yet), but I'm glad that they kept the "Sand People" nomenclature on all the packaging.

"Tusken Raider" is cool and all, but I kind of like the quaintness of the old school names. . .
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on April 13, 2006, 11:23 AM
Man, everytime I check out your images I want to go out and buy the props he uses!

This image rocks!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Vintage_Saga_Collection/Greedo/vtsc_gree_ac11.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on April 13, 2006, 11:51 AM
A lot of sweet shots in there Jared... I can't wait to shoot these guys as well!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: DarthAcroyear on April 13, 2006, 08:04 PM
Very nice pictures. 8)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 13, 2006, 08:28 PM
Annatar, a member here and fellow collector in Utah found the VTSC in Utah today at a TRU for $9.99! Good find!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 13, 2006, 11:13 PM
More awsome pictures, Jared! Thanks.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: starkid500 on April 13, 2006, 11:18 PM
i found them all.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on April 14, 2006, 11:27 AM
i found them all.


Which ones did you pick up? Just curious.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gregorbian on April 14, 2006, 12:24 PM
The Biker Scout is now my favorite figure of all time.  A perfect blend of super-articulation and great sculpting raised the bar for all figures for me now. 
...Must resist buying every one that I see...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on April 14, 2006, 12:34 PM
The Biker Scout is now my favorite figure of all time.  A perfect blend of super-articulation and great sculpting raised the bar for all figures for me now. 


My thoughts exactly... Though at the $12 pricetag I probably won't pick up a 2nd one.

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: starkid500 on April 14, 2006, 01:36 PM
i found them all.


Which ones did you pick up? Just curious.
biker scout ,luke,han,sanperson and greedo
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 15, 2006, 02:01 AM
The Biker Scout is now my favorite figure of all time.  A perfect blend of super-articulation and great sculpting raised the bar for all figures for me now. 


My thoughts exactly... Though at the $12 pricetag I probably won't pick up a 2nd one.

 :P

They are cheaper at TRU. $9.99. Im sure Target will come down in price. So has anyone found the clamshells without the heat seal? According to GH they are "available" with the tape and with the heat seal.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JayDouble on April 15, 2006, 01:36 PM
Picked up 3 of the 5 today at TRU.  The ones at TRU are taped and not heat sealed.  Time to go hunting you package freaks; Matt.   :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on April 15, 2006, 04:02 PM
I grabbed a set (heat sealed) from Target last night...

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/VTSCgroupsm.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2006, 01:46 AM
Picked up 3 of the 5 today at TRU.  The ones at TRU are taped and not heat sealed.  Time to go hunting you package freaks; Matt.   :P

Interesting...  At least though someone might get a nice, displayable loose set then.  I'm planning to use some of my leftover VOTC packaging I have lying around to display them so they all look alike, as my set was heatsealed.

Mangles the hell out of the cards, but the bonus is that perhaps people will feel they're less desireable that way and maybe those ones will be an easier find.

Of course, these could ship in droves and just be all easy to find since they're one wave released to (assumedly) all retailers.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ryan on April 16, 2006, 01:59 AM
I found the same tape sealed VTSC at Toys today, and the nicest part is that they are only $9.99 compared to Target's $12.99.

I'd love it if the VTSC heatsealed scouts were easy to find...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2006, 02:11 AM
Oh man, Target has a run for their money from TRU then.  Nice scores at the giraffe hangout guys.  :)  Time to put TRU BACK on the routine stops list.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on April 17, 2006, 09:50 AM
I'd rather have them heat-sealed than taped just because I'd be really pissed off if I got home and found out that my POP's were missing.   >:(
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on April 19, 2006, 12:39 AM
Well I wish I had tape-sealed for my openers - I've been collecting the star cases for eventual use with a vintage set and thought I'd be able to add 5 more to my pile of about 60 - but I had heat-sealed ones, didn't know there was a difference, and sliced them open.

Crap.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: MetalJedi on April 19, 2006, 01:16 AM
I'd love it if the VTSC heatsealed scouts were easy to find...

This evening they were easy to find at Walmart. I saw at least 10 of them.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on April 19, 2006, 01:18 AM
Just get them from overseas - even after shipping they were only about 11 dollars each

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/Scouts.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Kill_Solo on April 19, 2006, 01:16 PM
If you get them at Walmart or TRU today they will only cost you 10 bucks! That's what I did!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 21, 2006, 09:23 AM
With the quantity showing up at WM, I hope it takes the heat off interest in the Target reset.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on April 21, 2006, 10:26 AM
I wish my case from NF would show up.  I am looking forward to ripping open the whole set.

I am most interested in the Biker Scout and the Tusken Raider.  It hurts to see all these beautiful pictures in this thread (especially the Scouts)!

My son loves when we get figures in the mail.  I guess it's good that I'm an opener for the most part - how do you explain to a three year old that we can't open toys?

 :D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mikey D on April 21, 2006, 10:31 AM
Found my first vTSC figure yesterday - Han Endor.  It was the only one on the shelf, which is not suprising.  What is suprising is that Han was the left over figure.  I would have figured Greedo would be the "pegwarmer".  

Scanned it and nothing in the stockroom, either.   :'(
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jim on April 21, 2006, 03:02 PM
Just a question for you folks collecting a set of these MOC.  Does anyone else put these in different cases?  I remove mine and put them in Protecto Paks which are alot sturdier and give them a better look IMO.  Plus it works out perfect with this 2nd series because I can still keep a set MOC and score a 2nd mail-away without removing the figs from the bubble.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Rob on April 21, 2006, 04:31 PM
As far as I'm concerned the Star Case they come in is part of the item. 
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Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 21, 2006, 04:43 PM
I found the same tape sealed VTSC at Toys today, and the nicest part is that they are only $9.99 compared to Target's $12.99.

I'd love it if the VTSC heatsealed scouts were easy to find...

Holy cow...Target is charging 12.99 for VTSC?

I loaded up at Wally for 9.96.  TRU is 9.99
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Post by: Rob on April 22, 2006, 02:18 AM
11.99 around here - not 12.99
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Post by: CHEWIE on April 22, 2006, 02:23 AM
I must find these figures soon... damn the Midwest!!!!  (but only for finding figures)

 :)
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Post by: Spectre on April 22, 2006, 02:33 AM
I saw them at KB yesterday, they're nice and all, but I just cannot justify that kind of expense for what is basically a ROTS-era articulated figure with an extra $5 tacked on for a retro cardback that'll just go right in the trash anyway :(

Like I said earlier, I'll snag all of the Greedos and Sand People I want when Target inevitably markes them down to $1.24 each, just like last time :D
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Post by: Diddly on April 22, 2006, 11:05 PM
Found Han today... a good figure, but I dislike how the removeable vest keeps the right arm from going down all the way. I also don't dig hasbro gluing the Holster to Han's butt, preventing it from being moved up to his waist. Other than these two gripes, the figure is pretty damn good.
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Post by: Mitsukara on April 23, 2006, 02:51 AM
I see dead Major Bren Derlins and Bib Fortunas.... 4 each of them...

There was a coruscant wave there for a second but apparently it was some kind of mirage...

I hate small city shopping. :(

Fortunately though, I think I'm going out of town again in the next week or two- and this time not only do I stand a better chance of them at least having been stocked, but also I'll go with DPCI numbers and bug the customer service people if I don't find them. :) At least I'm getting a Han Solo, whatever happens with the rest of the line, surely I can get my hands on one of those. Right?

Speaking of V(O)TC, people talk about the tons of pegwarmer Landos out there, but I see $10-$25 for all the ones on eBay. Am I missing some kind of sect of people who would be willing to unload them for less?
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Post by: Gatillo on April 23, 2006, 08:09 AM
My TRU has 4 pegs full of VOTC Landos for 9.99.
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Post by: Mitsukara on April 23, 2006, 06:56 PM
I've never seen a VOTC figure in person... I should work something out with somebody to get one of those Landos. I looked at Toys R Us and just saw some ROTS figures- mostly Mon Mothmas- and a few TSC figures.
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Post by: Gatillo on April 23, 2006, 10:14 PM
I got some in clearance at Target and the rest for 5.98 each at Amazon.com.

I'll do the same this round.
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Post by: Roton7 on April 23, 2006, 10:16 PM
I got the Biker Scout a while back using the DCPI codes. He's my favorite figure ever!


I'm looking forward to getting the rest!
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Post by: Darth_Anton on April 24, 2006, 09:29 AM
For kicks and giggles, what's KB selling these for?
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Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2006, 10:40 AM
Here's a question -

Has anyone found Heat-Sealed VTSC figures at a store other than Target?  

I keep hearing from various sources that Target specifically requested the "heat-sealed" figures from Hasbro for "asset protection" reasons.  The thinking was that they would see less fraudulent returns and store theft (ripping the figures from the case in the store).

I also heard that this is why the Target VTSC cases actually say "Target Stores" on the box since they were made specifically for Target.  If this is true then the "Heat-Sealed" Variants will be pseudo Target exculsives.

I keep seeing folks say they found the taped versions at TRU and Wal-Mart, but has anyone actually found any Heat-Sealed at those stores? 

If the heat-sealed figures have showed up at other stores, then I can put this theory to rest and just ignore it, but I'm sure getting a lot of "tips" that say this theory is true (and some even say the heat-seals are why Target is charging more  :-\).

Thanks!

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Post by: Brian on April 24, 2006, 10:45 AM
I was fortunate enough to find 3 VTSC figures at TRU last week (Han, Luke, and Greedo) and they were all tape sealed.  They were the only ones there, and I haven't seen them since (I think they might have been put out the day before actually).  Also, we went to the Target across town from us this weekend - and this one still has the scanners you can type in the DCPIs.  So, I type in the VTSC DCPI number, and it says "In Aisle: N/A, In Stockroom: Yes".  So, after we check out with a couple of things I decide to stop by customer service and ask if they can look up this number, if they have any in the store or stockroom.  The girl working says sure no problem, and then looks it up, reads her screen for awhile and says "no, we don't have any in the store at all and I checked other area stores and no one in the area has them".  Seemed kind of fishy to me, but I wasn't going to push it.  Hopefully they'll all be out here in a week or so, and easier to find.  It seems like there are more reports of these showing up at Wal-Mart now too, might have to make a run there soon.
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Post by: jedipurge on April 24, 2006, 11:07 AM
Finally scored my first VTSC.  happily/luckily it was a scout and the only one left.  i have yet to see these at any store, i was able to score mine at disneyland.  greedo/han/tusken warmed the pegs while i saw 1 kid with the only luke and i scored the last scout.  these were tape sealed by the way.
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Post by: CorranHorn on April 24, 2006, 01:25 PM
Here's a question -

Has anyone found Heat-Sealed VTSC figures at a store other than Target?  

I keep hearing from various sources that Target specifically requested the "heat-sealed" figures from Hasbro for "asset protection" reasons.  The thinking was that they would see less fraudulent returns and store theft (ripping the figures from the case in the store).

I also heard that this is why the Target VTSC cases actually say "Target Stores" on the box since they were made specifically for Target.  If this is true then the "Heat-Sealed" Variants will be pseudo Target exculsives.

I keep seeing folks say they found the taped versions at TRU and Wal-Mart, but has anyone actually found any Heat-Sealed at those stores? 

If the heat-sealed figures have showed up at other stores, then I can put this theory to rest and just ignore it, but I'm sure getting a lot of "tips" that say this theory is true (and some even say the heat-seals are why Target is charging more  :-\).

Thanks!



Jeff, that's not a bad theory. A good way to test it would be to see what type of clamshell the Grievous exclusive gets. Since Target tends to be the only brick & mortar that gets exclusives with clamshells, it would make sense for them to want to protect against figure swapping. Granted then that gives them justification to bump up the costs, which hurts the honest buyers.
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Post by: ruiner on April 24, 2006, 01:48 PM
Hmm, it does makes sense in theory.  Although every single VTSC figure should be heat-sealed.

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Post by: Nooker21 on April 24, 2006, 02:03 PM
The first VTSC figures I saw in person were at a Wal Mart...and they were all heat sealed...I have yet to see the taped version, but I'm still looking...
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Post by: ruiner on April 24, 2006, 02:12 PM
Wow, I can't believe this is the first I've heard of this - the current Luke in X-Wing garb is being shipped with Darth Vader's VOTC lightsaber.

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tsc/VTSC/01/cf.jpg)
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Post by: Darth Broem on April 24, 2006, 02:18 PM
You had to bring that up didn't you?  Now the griping will commence :( 
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Post by: Nicklab on April 24, 2006, 02:19 PM
Wow, I can't believe this is the first I've heard of this - the current Luke in X-Wing garb is being shipped with Darth Vader's VOTC lightsaber.


I noticed it shortly after I opened mine.  I've been discussing it on some other boards, albeit briefly.
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Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2006, 02:28 PM
Wow, I can't believe this is the first I've heard of this - the current Luke in X-Wing garb is being shipped with Darth Vader's VOTC lightsaber.

I thought we knew that a long, long time ago...  ???


Hold on a minute, what the hell hilt is that with Luke that is rubbered to his waist? It sure looks like a Vader saber to me, what's the deal Bill McNeal???? Could Hasbro have F'ed the pooch again? Nah... Never.  ::)


that's the problem with the super-large threads, stuff tends to get lost after a while...  :-\
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Post by: Jayson on April 24, 2006, 02:41 PM
Jeff, that's not a bad theory. A good way to test it would be to see what type of clamshell the Grievous exclusive gets. Since Target tends to be the only brick & mortar that gets exclusives with clamshells, it would make sense for them to want to protect against figure swapping. Granted then that gives them justification to bump up the costs, which hurts the honest buyers.

The Target Grievous has a taped sealed clamshell...

JD 's Target Grievous Image (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Exclusives/Demise_of_Grievous&image=tsc_grevd_cardf2.jpg&img=&tt=)
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Post by: ruiner on April 24, 2006, 03:04 PM
My bad Jeff - it's difficult to track something down out of thirty one pages!

 :D
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Post by: JayDouble on April 24, 2006, 04:58 PM
For kicks and giggles, what's KB selling these for?

$11.99
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Post by: CorranHorn on April 24, 2006, 05:36 PM
Jeff, that's not a bad theory. A good way to test it would be to see what type of clamshell the Grievous exclusive gets. Since Target tends to be the only brick & mortar that gets exclusives with clamshells, it would make sense for them to want to protect against figure swapping. Granted then that gives them justification to bump up the costs, which hurts the honest buyers.

The Target Grievous has a taped sealed clamshell...

JD 's Target Grievous Image (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Exclusives/Demise_of_Grievous&image=tsc_grevd_cardf2.jpg&img=&tt=)

well there goes that idea, although I wouldn't be surprised that Target requested special clamshells just because they get a lot of those types of figures.
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Post by: SilverZ on April 24, 2006, 05:37 PM
The first VTSC figures I saw in person were at a Wal Mart...and they were all heat sealed...I have yet to see the taped version, but I'm still looking...

The Walmart ones I found this weekend were all heat sealed as well. The only place I've spotted taped ones are TRU. I have managed to put together a complete tape-sealed set, so I can get my second Lucas figure without eating the cost of a third set. That pleases me to no end.
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Post by: Diddly on April 24, 2006, 05:57 PM
I also saw heat sealed at Wal-Mart this weekend.
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Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2006, 06:08 PM
Thanks for the responses guys. 

Looks like I can ignore those Target conspiracy folks when they e-mail me from now on...  ;)
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Post by: Darth Slothus on April 24, 2006, 06:34 PM
The only places I heard of taped was TRU and KB Toys
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Post by: Jesse James on April 25, 2006, 02:47 AM
WM is getting them in around here too with taped bubbles Slothus, so you can add them...

Target's the only place I heard of heatsealed.  Which is really odd...  I wonder if it was an early production idea they decided to change, since Target started to get stuff first it seemed, or if it was something Target explicitly asked for...  Or if they even have the ability to make such a request.

Either way I prefer taped, though theft is so easily done,a s we've seen/heard of late.
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Post by: Vator on April 25, 2006, 06:59 AM
Wal-Marts in South Carolina, from what I've seen, are heat-sealed.
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Post by: Paul on April 25, 2006, 08:06 AM
Finally scored my first VTSC.  happily/luckily it was a scout and the only one left.  i have yet to see these at any store, i was able to score mine at disneyland.  greedo/han/tusken warmed the pegs while i saw 1 kid with the only luke and i scored the last scout.  these were tape sealed by the way.

Gotta ask...how much is the House of Mouse getting for these?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Paul on April 25, 2006, 08:09 AM
WM is getting them in around here too with taped bubbles Slothus, so you can add them...

Target's the only place I heard of heatsealed.  Which is really odd...  I wonder if it was an early production idea they decided to change, since Target started to get stuff first it seemed, or if it was something Target explicitly asked for...  Or if they even have the ability to make such a request.

Either way I prefer taped, though theft is so easily done,a s we've seen/heard of late.


Here is the Run-Down on the ones I've bought and or Opened:

Tusken from Ebay- Not heat sealed but Not even Taped (but it was one of those "Accidental" ones from Wal-Mart

Biker/Luke/Han  from Ebay Red5Sixx (about a month before they hit)- Taped

Cases from Target-Heat Sealed

Tusken/Han/Luke at Wal Mart-Taped
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on April 26, 2006, 01:35 AM
Have you been finding these down your way at retail much Paul?

Up here, I've yet to see a vinty out, but I heard tell Target and WM has both put out some of them.  nothing from TRU I'm aware of though.
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Post by: Reid on April 26, 2006, 06:59 AM
Aside from one time at Target (Where I got my VTSC Scout), I haven't seen the rest at retail after that.
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Post by: Brian on April 26, 2006, 09:47 AM
I was fortunate enough to find a whole bunch of VTSC at Wal-Mart yesterday afternoon.  They might have been there the day before, and I missed them, because they were set up in those cardboard displays on one of the "middle of the aisle" island things (on one side, with some lightsabers).  I picked up a few Scouts, another Han-Endor, and a Tusken.  I was tempted to get a few more extras, but I thought that $50 was enough for one day.  Also of note, all of the figures at WM were the heat sealed ones.  The three I found at TRU last week were taped.
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Post by: Master_Phruby on April 26, 2006, 02:36 PM
I went to Walmart this morning and found multiples of the endor han and greedo. All of the them were heat sealed but every one of them did not have their order forms and sticker. Most were damaged near the bottom corner of the calm shell and you can see the tape riped partially from the pack of the saga card. I think it will be easy to find the these votc figures but very difficult to find ones that have their order forms. I'm glad I have an case of these ordered from Andrewstoys.
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Post by: JayDouble on April 26, 2006, 06:25 PM
The only good thing I see from the whole POP thing is the market will be flooded with GL Stormies. 
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Post by: Darth Slothus on April 26, 2006, 11:02 PM
Oh Yeah? Well..


Does x5 GL stormie= x1 George Sacul Fig?

even better..

Does x20 Gl stormie= x1 Toy Fair Vader?
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Post by: Jim on April 27, 2006, 10:50 AM
I will be the first to say that I was a huge pessimist when it came to the Tusken figure. But once opened, you really can play around with the cloth to get really good poses.  This to me was the biggest improvement for a figure and passes the SA Scout in this wave IMO.  My only gripe is I wish the gaffi stick was a little longer.
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Post by: Brian on April 28, 2006, 04:22 PM
Looks like the VTSC are in stock at KBToys.com now, 9.99 each if you can't find them in your neck of the woods.
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Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2006, 04:34 PM
Looks like the VTSC are in stock at KBToys.com now, 9.99 each if you can't find them in your neck of the woods.

Stoopid KB and their won't ship to Canada or accept a Canadian credit card policy >:(
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Post by: Rob on April 28, 2006, 04:40 PM
I suppose the Heat-sealed are all from Target theory is debunked, but I'll add that the ones I found this morning at Walmart were heat-sealed.
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Post by: ruiner on April 28, 2006, 04:54 PM
Damn Biker Scout is sold out already.   :'(

But the good new is the vintage B-Wing pilot is still available:

Vintage B-Wing Pilot (http://www.kbtoys.com/genProduct.html/PID/4718953/ctid/17/INstock/Y/D/)
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Post by: MetalJedi on April 28, 2006, 06:00 PM
Damn Biker Scout is sold out already.   :'(

But the good new is the vintage B-Wing pilot is still available:

Vintage B-Wing Pilot (http://www.kbtoys.com/genProduct.html/PID/4718953/ctid/17/INstock/Y/D/)

Good lord, does Brian's Toys have to be everywhere? First Amazon now KBToys?  ::)
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Post by: Ook on April 28, 2006, 06:05 PM
Good lord, does Brian's Toys have to be everywhere? First Amazon now KBToys?  ::)

I was wondering last night how the hell it could be that KB was selling a Saga 12" biker for FIFTY dollars, then I saw that. I actually think I saw that Brian's was selling through KB's site a long time ago, I just forgot about it.
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Post by: CHEWIE on April 29, 2006, 11:23 AM
I found these at Walmart yesterday... I noticed the clamshell packaging is different from Walmart than it is at Target.  Target has the vacuum sealed sides, but Walmart is still packaged with the tape like the VOTC figures... anyone else notice this?

Edit - I needed to read back a bit.  I see this is being found like this elsewhere too.

 :)
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Post by: Darth_Anton on April 29, 2006, 12:44 PM
Got conformation that my NF order is shipping.
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Post by: MetalJedi on April 29, 2006, 02:47 PM
Saw the taped ones for the first time today at TRU. Weird that they would get them and the rest that Ive seen have been heat sealed.
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Post by: tonphanan on April 30, 2006, 02:51 PM
I've seen heat sealed and taped at Wal-mart and for some reason the taped ones sold out  ??? Also keep a look out, I found a Greedo laying on a shelf with the bottom torn open, most likely the sticker was missing.
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Post by: Jim on April 30, 2006, 08:41 PM
On a somewhat related note.  I just took the Cloak from the new SAGA Obi-Wan and used it on the VOTC Ben from last year.  This is how it should of been down.  It looks fantastic.  Goodbye poofy coat.  It also works fabulously on the ROTS Mace.
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Post by: Nirvana on April 30, 2006, 08:51 PM
The VTSC I found at TRU were tape-sealed...haven't found any at my Target so I can't say if they're heat-sealed.

I didn't find the Biker Scout anywhere but did pick up the Endor Han. Easily the best Han fig to date, I just love it.
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Post by: Brian on May 1, 2006, 10:31 AM
These showed up at our local Target on Friday, at $11.99 each.  I already found most of what I want (maybe another Scout or Tusken eventually) at WM/TRU (and cheaper) so I passed on them there for now.  Our local WM had a ton of these last week, and still have some leftover, although the Scouts are all long gone.  Luke/Han/Tusken have a few left, and there are a whole mess of Greedos sitting about there right now.

I got a chance to open one of each this weekend, and I really have to say this series seems to be pretty consistently good.  There were some complaints with the initial 12 figures that they were kind of inconsistent - some were great (Han, Stormie, Chewie), some weren't so great (3PO).  Even though Greedo wasn't maybe necessary in this line, after opening him up he is a pretty nice figure.  The cloth vest might not have been a must either, but the figure itself is well done.  The Scout and Han are amazing, and the Tusken and Luke are good too.  I thought across the five figures, this line was pretty good - they'd be better at the basic pricepoint - but the quality was good I thought.  What are your opinions on the VTSC?
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Post by: speedermike on May 1, 2006, 09:17 PM
Anyone else get ripped off on the POPs?  I opened my figs last week, but put the packaging aside for another date.  Tonight I opened up the little baggies and two of my silver stickers had been replaced by crudely cut out xeroxes!

Not a disaster, because I will buy another Biker and Tusken.  BTW, they were taped versions form TRU.

Figs are wonderful...
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Post by: Brian on May 4, 2006, 04:03 PM
These have been hanging about a bit at WM and Target, but not before selling through the majority of what they have/had.  Target just had a case or so on the pegs to begin with, and probably have 5 figures or so left.  WM at one time had just tons of these on an endcap display, but now the leftovers are stuck on a peg - away from the rest of the SW merchandise - actually next to the Marvel figures.

It really seems like the Luke X-Wing is a pretty good seller, at least around here.  Maybe that is due to his figure having the "redemption form", or just because he's popular.  There have been a lot of Greedos, quite a few Endor Hans, and just a couple Lukes here and there.  The Scouts are long gone of course, and aside from one Tusken at Target this past weekend, those are gone as well.  Hopefully we'll see some more shipments of these, I wouldn't mind picking up 1-2 more Scouts or Tuskens, but we'll see I guess.
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Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 4, 2006, 08:31 PM


It really seems like the Luke X-Wing is a pretty good seller, at least around here.  Maybe that is due to his figure having the "redemption form", or just because he's popular. 

I thought about that.  I don't think it's for the redemption form, because someone who cares about the redemption form for the Lucas Stormie also must have equal need for all 5 figures, since each has a necessary piece for the Lucas.  You can't just buy Luke for the redemption form and leave Han and Greedo, and still get the Lucas.


The funny thing is, I'm actually army building Greedo to a degree.  I'm sitting on 4, 1 for Han to blow away, and a couple at least for Jabba's confrontation of Han outside the Falcon in Docking Bay 94.  I watched the DVD, the rodians with Jabba in that scene are actually wearing the exact same outfit and vest as Greedo.

Must be a popular name brand jumpsuit on Planet Rodia or wherever the hell they're from.
Title: VOTC2 Endor Han
Post by: Clone Hunter on May 5, 2006, 08:15 PM
Can anyone who has one take a pic of him in Carbonite frozen position?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Scott on May 7, 2006, 12:32 AM
On a somewhat related note.  I just took the Cloak from the new SAGA Obi-Wan and used it on the VOTC Ben from last year.  This is how it should of been down.  It looks fantastic.  Goodbye poofy coat.  It also works fabulously on the ROTS Mace.
Thanks for the tip Jim, I bought a couple extra Obi's and gave them away to VOTC Ben and Mace, they do look great!
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Post by: Brian on May 10, 2006, 02:00 PM
I'm not sure if it is just an isolated incident, or hitting at the right time, but I was able to stop by our local Target both yesterday and today, and both times they had several of each of these figures on the pegs (even Biker Scouts).  I think there was a fresh stocking yesterday morning, and it looks like they may have gotten even more today.  The thing is, it doesn't seem like much - if anything - has sold yet.  I'm curious if the higher pricepoint (particularly the $12 at Target) is scaring people off a little more this time around.  Target seemed to have at least 3, if not 6 or more, of each of the 5 figures in this wave.  WM hasn't gotten any new stock since their endcap, and I'm not sure if they will.  The remaining figures (Greedos and Hans) are stuck away on a little hanging rack down by the car models.  TRU has about five figures (Han, Greedo, Luke), but I haven't been there for a few days now.

Again, like I said, maybe its just my area - or I just happened to hit the store at the right time and they'll be all gone by the weekend - but it seems like these have been easier to locate than the VOTC ever was in my area.  I've now seen the Biker Scout on four seperate occasions, and I only saw 1 VOTC Stormtrooper - 1 time, which I picked up.  Same with Chewie and R2-D2.  Bear in mind, I'm not complaining, its nice being able to find these great figures - and it makes it easier to possibly pick up extras down the road - but is anyone else seeing these more frequently than the VOTC figures, is price a factor?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Ryan on May 10, 2006, 04:30 PM
Neither of the Wal-Marts near me have had a single case of VTSC, there has been no endcap. The TRU has put them out once. They have gotten multiple other cases in but none have made it to the pegs. The employee I asked said that they had been selling them by the case rather then putting them out on the shelves. But supposedly they are stocking later this week because there are a few cases coming in that don't have holds. I see more of these at Target becuase they do seem to get it in fairly rgularly and it seels pretty well with the exception of a few Greedos and a Han or two.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on May 10, 2006, 06:37 PM
I've been a bit startled by the staying power of Han and the Tusken at my closest Target. There are at least 4 of each on the pegs, with about 6 Greedos, which is not a surprise to anyone to see sitting.

They were selling fine until TRU and Walmart started carrying the line at $9.99, so I'm inclined to think that the additional $2 premium for the priveledge of buying at Target is keeping them on the pegs. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on May 11, 2006, 02:27 AM
I noticed Luke is gone at all my stores locally too...  Even before the Scout, Luke seems to go.  My theory is it's people thinking that the form makes him worth more...  Holding him for scalper ransom basically.

The Scout I've seen one time.  There's locals picking him out routinely, which is to be expected, but I think it's maybe becoming overkill for some people's tastes.

I have seen the other 3 in the wave once, but then again Target is the only store stocking them routinely and with dedicated space for the VTSC, so the others could be getting them in sporatically or not at all.  Hell my WM just put figures out this week for the first time since about mid-April or so...  They'd be back to bare pegs for a few weeks at least.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2006, 11:24 AM
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but then again Target is the only store stocking them routinely and with dedicated space for the VTSC

That's something I've noticed here as well Jesse.  The first VTSC I found were at TRU, and at the time there was one peg for them labeled (vintage Star Wars).  Since they sold out, that tag was taken away.  They've gotten a few more in stock last time I was there, but there's no specific peg for them.  Like I've mentioned before, Wal-Mart has just stuffed their remaining Hans and Greedos on a hanging rack near the model cars (opposite end of the aisle from the Star Wars figures).  Target has three pegs (four if you count the Demise of Grievous peg - which just have VTSC on it) currently stocked full of the VTSC.  As I mentioned in a different thread here - despite the higher prices, Target has definitely treated Star Wars the best of the retailers in our area.  A nice, consistent dedicated space to them - and they've been stocking somewhat well this year - although the basic figure situation has been basically Bren Derlin and the Geo Bugs for a little while now.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 11, 2006, 11:28 AM
The Walmarts here had an endcap going with VTSC, and when the endcaps sold out, the Greedos and Hans just got tossed into the SW section.  There has been no restocking and there are no specific pegs for the VTSC.  I think it was a one shot endcap deal.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2006, 01:09 PM
Just read at Yakface that the VTSC (all five) are currently up at Amazon - $10.99 each, if you are still looking.

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There has been no restocking and there are no specific pegs for the VTSC.  I think it was a one shot endcap deal.

That's the same situation here, and I was wondering if it might be a "one and done" deal with Wal-Mart.  Maybe its just locally, but our Wal-Marts don't seem to really give much space/concern to the Star Wars lines.  If it wasn't for the Transformers, Choppers, and Unleashed Battle Packs, there would barely even be a Star Wars section.  I think there is two pegs for basic figures, and that's about it.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Broem on May 11, 2006, 02:12 PM
Well I just got back from Target on my lunch break.  I saw all of these except for of course the Biker Scout and Luke. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gatillo on May 11, 2006, 08:25 PM
Same here.  Luke and the scout do not stick around too long but some of my local Targets have 5 tuskens and Hans.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jim on May 12, 2006, 07:36 AM
My pegs at the closest WM's have stickers that say "non-replenishable"

Target is swimming with Han's, Greedos and Tusken's.  The Tusken surprises me a bit.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Broem on May 12, 2006, 08:51 AM
Yes, I am surprised about the Sand People.  Although I would assume people are just wanting to build up their Scout Troopers first and then hit the Raiders?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Roton7 on May 14, 2006, 12:08 AM
I got my tusken, he rules! ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Mitsukara on May 14, 2006, 12:57 AM
Oh, I totally forgot! I couldn't find any trace of the mail-away sticker in my VTSC Han. This is okay because I'm most likely not buying a whole set- or at least no time soon- but it is noteworthy. I bought him at Target, but the case was taped shut. There's a shall piece of tape on the inside of the "The Saga Collection" insert on the clamshell- is that where it's supposed to be?

Nothing on the card or anywhere else in the case. ???

But whoever was lame enough to steal it can have it, I guess :P I'd almost rather have a normal Commtech stormtrooper than a George Lucas stormtrooper anyway...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gatillo on May 14, 2006, 10:13 PM
Is it just me or does Han lean to the left?  He seems to have the right leg longer than the left one and his torso is leaning.  Almost as if he had too much at the cantina.  I passed on Greedo thinking he was the one that sucked. :-\

You can hide it with the trench coat but still...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nooker21 on May 15, 2006, 01:08 PM
So are the taped ones still available, or should I break down and open up those heat sealed ones?  I've never seen taped ones at retail, and I'm scared when I do they will have the stickers stolen anyways...

Has anyone come up with the least damaging way to get the heat sealed ones open? Going through the old replies, I haven't seen a surfeire way to get at this without destroying them, other than opening up the back...
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2006, 01:43 PM
I think your best bet is to go ahead and destroy the heat sealed cases, and use some of the old VOTC clamshells for displaying them.  It's just one more good reason to break open those extra VOTC stormies!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: SilverZ on May 24, 2006, 03:52 PM
(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tsc/VTSC/02/lf15.jpg)

Nice picks over at Yakface.com, Jayson. That's classic.  ;D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 24, 2006, 04:01 PM
Ha!  Well done.  :D
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on May 24, 2006, 04:01 PM
Thanks.. really puts things into perspective as to how far toys have come in 30 years.  :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on May 24, 2006, 04:18 PM
Great pic!  You're right, how far we've come.  Its funny, thinking back, that's what a friend and I thought when we first picked up some of those early POTF2 figures.  Sure, they are buff and some look silly now when compared to today's figures, but then we were marveled at the detail put into the Boba Fett compared to the vintage figure :P.  This latest batch of VTSC has been top notch I think, not really a stinker in the bunch.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on May 24, 2006, 04:21 PM
The only one I really have any issues with is the Tusken Raider. Those slash-cut elbow SUCK. Any time I tried to position him to hold a weapon for photographing, the forearms would pop out.  >:(

(Jesse acknowledged this in his review as well)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 24, 2006, 04:39 PM
The funny thing about VTSC, and it was the same with VOTC, is that if I don't absolutely love it at first (like the Stormie or Scout, which have nothing to dislike), they grow on me.  The Luke pilot was kinda 'meh' to me at first, but I'm starting to appreciate his poseability.  Take the POTJ helmet and give it to this Luke and he looks even better.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Diddly on May 24, 2006, 05:57 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/bikervariation2.jpg)

Sorry for the crappy pic, but check out my newest Biker, on the left. Notice how his midsection is darker than the right (which is the same color as the ones in the JD Images). Is this just a paint mess up? Running change? Variation? Has anyone else seen one with a torso that dark?
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jayson on May 24, 2006, 06:02 PM
I think it can be chalked up to paint op procedures rather than a legit variant/running change. All the one I've seen (here in the midwest) have all had the varying shades in the midsection. (I do like the darker/dirty version though)

Here's mine...
(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tsc/VTSC/05/lf13.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on May 24, 2006, 09:04 PM
My favorite VTSC figures in order:
1. Biker Scout
2. Greedo
3. Sand People
4. Luke Skywalker (X-Wing Gear)
5. Han Solo (Ewok Village)

 :P
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on May 25, 2006, 01:28 AM
I have, at this point, a lot of Bikers...  I'm gonna guess your paint variation is just a mix-up as well.  I like it's cleanliness look though. :)  Little variety in the ranks is a good thing.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Kit on May 25, 2006, 05:04 PM
This line rocks!!  Like a lot of people, I bought two sets.  One set to keep boxed, and one set to open for display, and of course for the lord Lucas figure.
I am currently at 10 and counting on the biker scouts.  I can't stop raving about this figure.  Hats off to hasbro, again.   

For me, the $11.99 price tag justifies what I am getting for the buck.  I am getting a little irritated of the kit-bashed repacks.  The idea of a SA figure with a vintage card and a clamshell to go with is just brilliant.  I hope hasbro ends up making all the figures from the vintage line. ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gregorbian on May 25, 2006, 10:18 PM
Sorry for the crappy pic, but check out my newest Biker, on the left. Notice how his midsection is darker than the right (which is the same color as the ones in the JD Images). Is this just a paint mess up? Running change? Variation? Has anyone else seen one with a torso that dark?

The ones that I ordered from Asia have a bright red stripe on the backpack whereas the ones that I bought at Target have a dull red stripe.  The ones that I ordered from Asia have the darker midsection and it looks like an alternate form of weathering along the boots and stuff. 
Not sure if that's because they were making these figures "after dark" or if it was just the first shipment of these figures.  I like the "store bought" versions better.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on May 26, 2006, 01:47 AM
Mark, a buddy of mine, sent me this image of a mock-up Han Solo VTSC that's pretty weird...  Check it out.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-06/tn_han_1.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-06/han_1.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-06/tn_han_2.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-06/han_2.jpg)

You can see it's lacking the UGH sticker and whatnot... 

Kind of weird, thought you guys might find it interesting, especially the funky coat.

edit: just dropping in to fix the images... Jeff
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gatillo on May 26, 2006, 10:19 AM
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Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 26, 2006, 08:16 PM
Sorry for the big pic...  Mark, a buddy of mine, sent me this image of a mock-up Han Solo VTSC that's pretty weird...  Check it out.

I love pre-production stuff like this, it's a great way to see one little piece of the production puzzle.

I guess his good coat was in the wash.  ;)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on May 26, 2006, 08:21 PM
It is quite funky the way they patchworked it together...  It's pretty far along in production though because a complete figure is there it seems, just not complete packaging and a funky coat...  Weird stuff.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 27, 2006, 04:48 PM
Can't see those pics for some reason; I'd love to check it out!  On a side note, I passed by my local Target today, and the only remnants of the VTSC wave are about 7 or 8 Greedos.  I hope people aren't skipping this great figure.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 27, 2006, 08:35 PM
As opposed to the long endcap displays Walmart had earlier this month, they are now receiving regular 10 figure cases a plenty.  Saw 5 cases today on the floor.

The endcap displays at Walmart had the taped figures, now the regular case shipments are heat sealed.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: ruiner on May 27, 2006, 09:33 PM
Jeez, I should have you pick me up some Biker Scouts.   8)  My local WM has one peg dedicated to VTSC....

Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on May 27, 2006, 10:38 PM
I wonder why they don't repack the Stormtrooper on an ANH card... and then ESB?  I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually do that.

 :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 2, 2006, 02:18 AM
NFC has filled my order for my second case.  Just letting everyone know in case anyone else was waiting for other cases.

On another note, I'm genuinely surprised how often I've been seeing Scout troopers on the pegs. Sure they don't last a day, but just seeing the quantity I've seen is a good sign.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Darth Broem on June 2, 2006, 09:11 AM
I wonder why they don't repack the Stormtrooper on an ANH card... and then ESB?  I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually do that.

 :)

I think they will do just that.  They liked using that body for the Lucas Trooper.  They will do it for the eventual Luke and Han Stormtroopers (they gotta put those out soon).  I think they will repackage that VOTC stormtrooper to in any form that can.  We'll probably see it for the next 3 years is my guess :)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on June 6, 2006, 01:13 PM
I don't recall seeing it mentioned here, but the Canadian VTSC are circulating at TRUs up north now.  Best part is they are Canadian vintage styled cards. 

(http://www.ncf.ca/~cn333/han.jpg)
(http://www.ncf.ca/~cn333/bikerscout.jpg)
(http://www.ncf.ca/~cn333/greedo.jpg)
(http://www.ncf.ca/~cn333/sandpeople.jpg)
(http://www.ncf.ca/~cn333/lukexwing.jpg)

The pic was originally posted by DarthVader77 over at snowtroopers.ca and the figures pictured are his, both original vintage and new. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on June 14, 2006, 03:31 PM
I've gotten a chance to stop by our local Target, TRU, and Wal-Mart during the past two days - and at least around here, the VTSC are really sitting pretty well now.  The Biker Scouts of course are not quite as easy to find (although I do see them on occasion), and Luke isn't overly common either (thinking about picking up another one), but the majority of them - especially the other three - are really sitting at all three stores at this point.  Its too bad really, because I think all 5 are great figures, but I don't know if they are over-shipped, over-priced, a combination of both - or maybe just slower moving overall.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2006, 12:17 AM
I think it's mostly the higher prices.  Deluxe pricing hasn't ever done terribly well in the past, and this basically is that line's temp replacement.  Then you have the fact that the figure itself isn't anything more than we should expect in the basic line save for the pricey softgoods bits and pieces...  The figures are what the line should be, or close to it though, so $10's going to make the average person's perception of value take a sharper focus I think.  If the packaging doesn't appeal to you you're gonna be pickier I think.

Then you have the fact these shipped evenly to every retailer in large enough numbers.  Even KB it seems (though I will say I have seen none at K-Mart).  I don't think they shipped overly heavily, just shipped fairly evenly and everywhere...  And even-packed cases too.

I bet if you'd have stacked the scout in the set, you'd probably have a situation where some of the others wouldn't be quite as pegwarmer-ish as they are right now.  But of course you'd have gripes then on finding certain main characters or Greedo or something if they got shortpacked.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nirvana on June 15, 2006, 08:39 AM


Then you have the fact these shipped evenly to every retailer in large enough numbers.  Even KB it seems (though I will say I have seen none at K-Mart).  I don't think they shipped overly heavily, just shipped fairly evenly and everywhere...  And even-packed cases too.



I don't know if anyone else has, but I've seen them once at K-Mart- They weren't on the pegs or anything, just on the bottom shelf...I think they were 11.99...I could be wrong. I considered picking up the only Scout there, but I just found a Scorch and Utapau Clone on the pegs, and I didn't have the money.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
You're the first around here I heard of finding them at KM there DN, so that's interesting.  I admittedly don't go there as often when things are generally easy to find at other stores...  I may have to pop in though just to see what's around.  Most of the JTA's had dried up too so I just didn't have reason to go...  And nobody mentioned finding VTSC there...

VOTC showed first at K-Mart though ironically.  They really did well with that line.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nirvana on June 15, 2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah, it was back on Memorial Day when I saw them. I haven't been to that K Mart since, so I don't know if it was just a one-time thing or they're being restocked.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Brian on June 26, 2006, 04:26 PM
You know, I was looking through the closet today for boxes/etc. I could get rid of, and thinking about packing up some things - did any of you keep the clamshells from the VTSC.  I kept the first VOTC ones (from my openers), and I will keep the tape sealed ones I found this time around (only 3 of them) - but I'm debating what to do with the rest.  I ended up having to cut at least two sides of the heat sealed ones to get them open, and I still have the bubbles for some reason.  I figure I should just throw them away, because they won't look "nice" to use to display anything in anyways - but for some reason I just haven't brought myself to doing it yet.  I was just curious if any of you kept them, or did you ditch them right away?  Maybe you were a little more skilled/patient in getting them open than I was :).
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Morgbug on June 26, 2006, 06:12 PM
Naw, I read the frustrations everyone else had online and just carved them up and threw them out.  All the Canadian carded versions are heat sealed.  Were they the taped versions, I'd happily keep them as quasi-star cases but these are just extra trash now. 
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 26, 2006, 10:50 PM
Just a couple things to add:
1) I also have seen a large amount of these at K-Mart since last week, but I didn't get a chance to see the price.
2) In most other places near me, the Luke is outselling even the Biker Scout!  I couldn't believe when I saw a kid grabbing one and handing it to his mother, all excited.  A kid!!  I should be happy that such a young generation is feeling the love too, but I have to admit I find it weird that kids can still be interested in a 1977 flick!
3)  The Tusken's poofy robes have bothered me since day one, but I recently put him in a pose I like, and doused him under a water faucet until he was drenched.  I put him on the shelf and the next day the robes had dried in that position and looked great!  I recommend trying this technique.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2006, 11:32 PM
Well, I decided to stop by my KMart just to see what was there, and I found two pegs full of VTSC!

Picked up a Biker Scout, and I did see something wierd...it was a VTSC Luke whose inner bubble (on the card) wasn't glued at all to the cardback...it had fell to the bottom of the case, lol.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: speedermike on June 26, 2006, 11:40 PM
I live right outside of NYC, and I saw a floor display of these at a Super Stop and Shop!  Not only that, but they were only 9.99. I had what I needed, so I left about 4-6 Bikers on the pegs.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Artoo on June 26, 2006, 11:48 PM
The Scouts are starting to warm,I may start picking them up more.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2006, 01:41 AM
In Pittsburgh I only see Scouts and Lukes sporatically...  Then Sandpeople, and then Han/Greedo tie for pegwarmers of the wave.

Great fodder on all 5 figures though if clearance comes on these...  I'm guessing Scouts aren't going to be real easy to find, at least for me, on clearance since they are dried up around here but the others I'd love to pick up tons at sale prices.  I already have more than a few sets of these figures from online orders, online buys, and from locals who just wanted the Lucas figure...  I'm coming out on top in that regard, so I'm happy.

Some stores around me don't have any of these...  KM's I go to don't have them, several WM stores have no space for them at all and either are holding them in the back or just never got any. 

Only Target is consistantly stocked with VTSC and their stock I see dwindles between my trips.  Even the pegwarmers sell to some extent.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Reid on June 27, 2006, 03:29 PM
Targets are swimming with pegs and pegs of VTSC... Even Biker SCouts are pegwarming.

The thing that sucks is that this is preventing Target from putting out cases of Tatooine... (Which I haven't seen yet)
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2006, 02:32 AM
The stores should be keeping the two lines separate and holding cases of VTSC in reserve...  All my stores are that way anyhow.  The basics aren't getting out because of the chokehold H&V remnants and figures like Lushros Dofine and Derlin are holding on the pegs...  VTSC shouldn't be impacting your basics getting out on the floor though unless the toy aisle is a shambles and VTSC have taken over the basic pegs.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: starkid500 on June 28, 2006, 06:24 PM
The stores should be keeping the two lines separate and holding cases of VTSC in reserve...  All my stores are that way anyhow.  The basics aren't getting out because of the chokehold H&V remnants and figures like Lushros Dofine and Derlin are holding on the pegs...  VTSC shouldn't be impacting your basics getting out on the floor though unless the toy aisle is a shambles and VTSC have taken over the basic pegs.
they have here  :'(
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: jedipurge on July 28, 2006, 06:41 PM
for those that say instead of Greedo we should've gotten a DS sqaud commander >:(  are you guys crazy.  sure it'd be cool to get an SA version of him but come on army building him and the scout trooper @ $10-12 a pop  :'(  han definately has potential, i'm not really one for the trench coat either plastic or cloth either way it's comin' off.  Greedo  :-\ scout trooper  ;D gonna have to start playing the lotto and recycling those cans and bottles to get as many of these guys as i want.  can anybody say BARC Trooper repaints?  and if Hasblow is smart they'll rerelease him in that paint scheme for $6.99 and we'll all be pissed that we army built him for $10-12 instead of waiting to get him for $6.99 and just repainting him ourselves.  sand dude-opinion at a later date.  Luke kicks ass, but is it just me or does he look super pissed.


Sorry I just had to quote myself on this.  I knew hasblow would go this route with the Barc's---tight asses
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 28, 2006, 10:09 PM
My Target has these on low clearance- but Greedo is the only one left.  I got him today for $3!
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Jesse James on July 29, 2006, 01:55 AM
That's sort of how it is here...  under $5 now and only Greedo and some others left.  Not much choice but eh, it's Target who hardly got much of VTSC in really.  They hit then if you missed the Luke's and Bikers you were SOL really.

WM stocked far more but only select WM's had them in my area...  I'd say only 2 I go to actually, out of like 6 or 7.
Title: Re: 2006 vOTC (or vTSC) - now with pics!
Post by: Gatillo on July 31, 2006, 04:17 PM
I have been looking around and truth be told 1 Greedo is all I can take.  I could use a second one of any of the other guys but I already made a sith lord and a jedi from old greedos so this has been played out for me.

To be, they might make it to 90% off. ::)
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 3, 2006, 01:00 PM
I wish Wm would hurry up and clearance the VTSC..I mean really clearance like to 4$ or less. That way all the scouts I stashed I can get for cheap!
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: MetalJedi on August 4, 2006, 03:43 AM
Jon you may wanna check out your WMs now. The one down the street from me clearance out its VTSC to $4.25. Not saying its happening everywhere but just a few days ago (monday) they were at 8 bucks.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: jedipurge on August 4, 2006, 03:40 PM
I seriously hope WM dropps the price on these, I've been to 3 different ones in the last 2 days and they all still ring up as full price.  I have 6 Scouts on layaway at WM and hoping to get the price reduction before I have to pick it up.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Artoo on August 4, 2006, 10:41 PM
I don't jave to hide Bikers they're warming anyway at WM/ :P
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: JediMoses on August 7, 2006, 11:55 PM
I just opened a set tonight - no reason for the delay since I have had them April.  But I have a question that some of ou may be able to answer - are the cards the same stock as the vintage figures.  My faded memory does not recall the cardbacks but these seem a bit flimsy. 

Any vintage collectors who can chime in?
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: BrentS on August 8, 2006, 04:04 PM
I seriously hope WM dropps the price on these, I've been to 3 different ones in the last 2 days and they all still ring up as full price.  I have 6 Scouts on layaway at WM and hoping to get the price reduction before I have to pick it up.

Will WM match the adjusted price on these if they go on clearance??
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 16, 2006, 01:12 PM
Wanted to show you guys an easy adjustment to make to the VTSC Tusken.  I did trim a little fabric away, but that isn't necessary; what you do is douse your robed Tusken under running water for 10 to 20 seconds.  When he's fully drenched, the fabric will hang properly and cling to the figure underneath.  At that point just manipulate the folds and creases the way you want, and when it dries it will retain the shape!  The pics here show the after version on the left and the out-of-the-package version on the right.

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p3c390aea8f9b91faae0cee9de2a40b81/ed788341.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pd95aaff20be15eec08327393c6ca967a/ed788403.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Darth Gamboa on February 5, 2007, 12:59 PM
The Super Wal-Mart is finally clearancing their Vintage figures for a buck. They only had Greedos and Hans, and after I left they only had Greedos.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: David on February 5, 2007, 07:54 PM
a buck? cool. i might get han for a bespin han custom, or some scouts if i can find some.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: MetalJedi on February 6, 2007, 07:21 AM
The only place that have these left around here is KB. Wish I could find Tuskens for $1.00.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2007, 09:26 AM
Diago-Bah, how does your Tuskin outfit manipulation hold up after all this time?
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2007, 04:14 PM
I saw a Scout, a Sand person, a Han, and Greedo, for clearance at WM the other night... 

Hold onto your panties because WM did a major rollback on these... 

$9.96.

Yeah...  I love those couple cent rollbacks.  Stupid smiley faced dick.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: iFett on February 6, 2007, 04:22 PM

Yeah...  I love those couple cent rollbacks.  Stupid smiley faced dick.

 ;D
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 6, 2007, 06:13 PM
They've been $9.96 at my Walmarts since the day they were released.  Same price today, none of those nifty $1 clearances in my NY hood.
Title: Re: 2006 Vintage Saga Collection (vTSC)
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 7, 2007, 12:01 AM
Diago-Bah, how does your Tuskin outfit manipulation hold up after all this time?

Absolutely unchanged!  It looks just the same, I think because the fabric is very coarse.