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Title: SDCC 2011
Post by: speedermike on June 21, 2011, 04:12 PM
Alright.  We're about a month away from Comic Con.  If I remember correctly, all sorts of stuff started leaking about this time last year.  Maybe I'm wrong.

Either way, what are your SDCC expectations.

I'm hoping to see a few more Vintage waves, and what they have planned for the 3D E1 release.  Maybe that Tuantaun. I know, I think, that I kinda remember hearing something about there maybe being some possible surprises and stuff.  Any guesses?

Will we get a sneal peak at the next BMF?  Or will that be at Toyfair?
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on June 21, 2011, 04:52 PM
I doubt there's much BMF'n going on...  Hasbro's going to want to push the Attack Shuttle.

I'm itnerested in seeing maybe more Deluxe Fig/Vehicles, more Vintage...  The exclusives for the remainder of the year will be nice to see too, and see if it's a clean sweep of me not giving a poop about them (which it so far has been, at least for the most part).
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Mister Skeezler on June 22, 2011, 09:19 AM
I'm hoping for a great showing of new vintage stuff. There seems to have been a lull in the news, so I'm hoping we'll see some stuff to get excited about. I just don't want to see any awesome exclusives at places that make them impossible to get...that's always nerve wracking.

A new BMF would be awesome, but I see Jesse's point about the attack shuttle. When does that thing come out?
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2011, 09:26 AM
It would be nice to see a little more upcoming TVC (and CW for that matter), and I agree that I'd like to see what the exclusives for the last four months are going to be.  It always seems like we just get a ton of stuff towards the end of the year anymore.  I'd definitely like to see more about the Taun Taun (which is apparently an exclusive), and hopefully another nice surprise.  I know at one time it was sort of rumored that there might be a repaint of the BMF Slave I on the way, but I could see that getting pushed off a little bit further (our local TRU still has the original one on the shelves).  It seems like we know the majority of what is left for this year for the TVC figures (and CW to some extent), but hopefully we'll still get some surprises and maybe a peek at 2012.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Sybeck1 on June 22, 2011, 10:32 AM
Looking for what's past the Walrusman wave in vintage. No BMF for me as I still need a Falcon. Maybe the tauntaun, A wing, Y wing, new Landspeeder etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on June 22, 2011, 08:10 PM
There were claims the Attack Shuttle would be out by now, but that didn't seem to pan out.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 23, 2011, 11:38 AM
I think we we see a lot of exclusives in lieu of the Blue Ray push. Every retailer will want something special. Outside of not being able to find squat at retail I am very happy with the Vintage line and really look forward to see what left for this year plus the usual small sneak peek at 12'.

I am hoping for a BMF surprise but I know it's very unlikely. I am jonsing for some new stuff and more Han Bespins & Rebel Fleet troopers to complete some scenes.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Brian on June 30, 2011, 02:26 PM
I'm actually sort of surprised we haven't seen a few more leaks heading into Comic Con.  Granted, we got a peek at the Taun Taun and a few re-released/tweaked vehicles (like the B-Wing), but unless I'm forgetting there hasn't been much more.  You know there has to be several exclusives for both the holiday season or the blu ray release that are on the way as well.  Hey, maybe SDCC will actually hold some surprises this time around instead of us all finding out before hand.  I know I'm looking forward to seeing a better look at the Taun Taun, hopefully some more OT exclusives (like the Target Landspeeder, even if it is a repack), and maybe a peek at 2012.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: CHEWIE on June 30, 2011, 04:38 PM
Every year my hopes and dreams are destroyed when we don't see a Death Star playset or a Sail Barge.

So this year, I'm setting my wish list much lower...  TVC army builder sets announcement where you can get 4 Gammies, 4 RFTs, etc. for $30.00 via HTS or some other avenue, with enough sets to go around. 

Not gonna happen though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on June 30, 2011, 05:51 PM
So - what in the world are the exclusives for Star Wars?  Either I am losing interest and have forgotten or are they still not announced?

edit:  Dur.  Forgot about the Giant Death Star set thingy.  Will there be anything else?  I am totally not interested in that giant set.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt R. on July 1, 2011, 07:24 PM
I am planning in getting the Indy set, G.I. Joe Zarana. I am looking foward to seeing the Tauntaun w/ Hoth Luke and beyond Walrus Man wave.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 2, 2011, 08:39 AM
I kind of forgot but is the Indy set going to be online?  I do want that Death Star Revenge of the Jedi set but I will not.  I will just get what I can at the stores or online.   I am pretty much looking forward to anything that came from the films on the vintage cardbacks.  I would like to see Walrusman with the flipper hands, Doctor Evazan, and hopefully some upcoming figures we have not seen yet.  I am sure they will present or at least tell us the what the "deleted scenes" figures will actually be.  I to hold out no hopes of ever getting a decent Death Star playset(s).  As idiotic as I think that is, but oh well.  At least we will always have Woodrow and Yarna (yes I am happy we have both of them so don't anyone get mad at me). 

I am looking forward to see what they come up with from Clone Wars.  I really liked this last season so I hope maybe they have something up their sleeves from it that I may enjoy.  I guess they don't want to make Trandoshans which quite frankly rubs me the wrong way.  I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to get several.  Just one battle pack full of them be nice.  At least get Bossk on a single card!

I am interested to see what kind of tie-ins they are going to have with the Blu-Ray sets.  I hope it's not going to be all repacks.  We'll see.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 4, 2011, 11:31 PM
So this year, I'm setting my wish list much lower...  TVC army builder sets announcement where you can get 4 Gammies, 4 RFTs, etc. for $30.00 via HTS or some other avenue, with enough sets to go around.

Oh man...that would be awesome.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: EpicGon on July 5, 2011, 01:08 AM
Hope to see more of the taun taun, perhaps the definitive version, not the prepainted
I to fond on medium ships, and I haven´t lost the hope of a bigger X Wing Fighter, with lights on the wings,
a sculpt decorated cockpit, taller to make the ladder of the toy "usable". With a Luke pilot of course, an update of the tlc snowspeeder one.

I am not sure, but 3 months before more or less, JTA showed an spoiler where Sim Aloo was scheduled, with a softgoods robe, the hat, pale skin, etc. That wave must be ready to appear on display.

Think this could be very much for Hasbro dudes, but if they are going to launch more Revenge of the Jedi figures, they can sell the tvc atst driver, from 2010 Attack on Hoth battlepack. This figure is the current evolution on at st drivers, and would be offered to collectors that can´t afford the whole pack yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 18, 2011, 10:58 AM
I want photos/details on any of the following, if in fact they exist:
            
Assassin Spider Droid & Clone exclusive?            
                        
Maridun Defense (Commander Bly, Lok Durd, Tee Watt Kaa, Wag Too)            
Kamino Leaders (Commander Colt, ARC Trooper Commander, ARC Trooper Captain, ARC Trooper Lieutenant)   
Vassek Infiltration (Kit Fisto, Commander Fil - other figures unknown)            
            
Clone Trooper R7 (Exclusive - Possibly Walmart)            
Echo in Bric Armor (Exclusive - Possibly Walmart)            
            
Wat Tambor (Exclusive - Possibly TRU)            
            
Baron Papanoida and Ion Papanoida (Exclusive - Possibly TARGET)            
Padmé Amidala and Moogan Soldier (Exclusive - Possibly TARGET)            
            
Vehicle and Figure Pack (Deluxe)            
Republic Stun Tank And Mace Windu            
BARC Speeder And Luminara Unduli      

All of those have been recently rumored but otherwise unconfirmed. I think many of these would dovetail nicely with the TCW line.    

I'd also like clarifications on the ACTUAL waves for the Deluxe sets, Battlepacks, and Mid-Size Vehicles due out for the line for the rest of this year. (Like, where are the Obi-Wan and Boba Deluxe sets? Which wave is the Mini Y-Wing part of? etc)

I would think they would HAVE to show us the new Mandalorian Gunship. I mean, outside of the Republic Artillery Cannon, this is the only other midsize vehicle we have even whiffed this year so far. And that Cannon thing is out already. (overseas)

I'd like to know what happened to the Flitknot Speeder TRU Exclusive that was show at ToyFair but never materialized.

Probably the thing I care least about is new figures, mostly because I don't think they will show us a damn thing we haven't seen already. They completely missed the boat on Savage Oppress and totally lost the heat of that reveal. There's already 3 whole waves yet to hit retail which we have seen, so I don't expect we will get much beyond that, unless maybe on a slide.

Pie in the sky? Twilight. T-6 Jedi Shuttle. Trandoshan/Wookie Battlepacks. Ziro the Hutt. Zillo Beast. Citadel Playset.

We can dream, right?

   

Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 18, 2011, 01:58 PM
I'm curious to see what, if any, 2012 teases they show.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt R. on July 18, 2011, 04:25 PM
I think they will show TPM group (new Maul, Jar Jar, Ratts, etc.) , Tarkin for sure.  maybe they will show the new Weequay Skiff Guard and the realistic CW figures and the deleted scenes figure (like ROTJ Luke).  They will show great stuff.  Here stuff I would like to know at SDCC.

Ewoks battle Pack (have they figure out how to get them out)
if Wedge will get to be in more cases ?
hopefully Gamorrean Guard in Legends in 2012
the next BMF
The reason for lack of TVC at retailers.




Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2011, 12:50 PM
Pre-Preview night pictures are starting to hit the 'net... from SuperHeroHype (http://www.superherohype.com/gallery/comic-con/comic-con-2011/134899-comic-con-2011#joomimg).  Hopefully the hotlinking will work...

(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/Comic-Con_4499/comic-con_2011_7795/comic-con_2011_20110720_1290803170.jpg)

(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/Comic-Con_4499/comic-con_2011_7795/comic-con_2011_20110720_1989098736.jpg)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Paul on July 20, 2011, 01:07 PM
Awesome, I am all about some early peaks.

On the exploded view, the shelf above the Vehicle 2 pack is the Blu-Ray figure packs, so nothing new and exciting yet.

And the Vehcile Pack looks to have the Silver "R" of the TRU exclusive type.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2011, 01:29 PM
Yes, this set was listed in an overseas TRU computer so it's more of a confirmation than "new".  Seems to be TRU's Ultimate Battle Pack for this year (like the CW Slave 1 set last year) - X-Wing, Luke, R2, Vader's TIE, and Vader.  Not anything to get too excited about just yet...
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2011, 01:31 PM
Does R2 (in the Trench Run set) look like the battle damaged one from the first Droidfactory 2 packs to anyone else???
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 01:33 PM
Does R2 look like the battle damaged one from the first Droidfactory 2 packs to anyone else???


The R2 from the shot of the figures on the top shelf?  I got the feeling that those might be the figures from the DVD 4-packs.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2011, 01:39 PM
Does R2 look like the battle damaged one from the first Droidfactory 2 packs to anyone else???


The R2 from the shot of the figures on the top shelf?  I got the feeling that those might be the figures from the DVD 4-packs.

No, the R2 with the DS Trench set.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 01:46 PM
I think we might have to wait for some better images to determine that.  As for the set, I wonder if they've re-done the cockpit in the Vader TIE?

Also, this seems to be an indication that there's going to be a REVENGE variant of Vader

(http://cdn.superherohype.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/Comic-Con_4499/comic-con_2011_7795/comic-con_2011_20110719_1779003275.jpg)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2011, 01:54 PM
Also, this seems to be an indication that there's going to be a REVENGE variant of Vader

The fact that he's in the SDCC mega-pack (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/07-11/sdcc_box.JPG) is a pretty good sign too.  :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2011, 01:55 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the R2, Jayson, by what looks to be opened panels on him or something.  Surprising how they crammed that stuff in that box.  Doesn't look all that large, and also doesn't appear to slap people with something new they were hoping for like a Death Star Turret or something.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt R. on July 20, 2011, 02:51 PM
Trench Run pack is cool but I have both so no biggie... unless they mod both the cockpits. still a pass
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 20, 2011, 02:59 PM
Trench Run pack is cool but I have both so no biggie... unless they mod both the cockpits. still a pass

I smell a new head on Luke too. I think the cockpit mods are very probible, it that is the case I am in.
The package looks really nice and sells the product even without seeing good shots. If the package formet has more of that look that would help sales, it make it look more exciting.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 03:05 PM
Also, this seems to be an indication that there's going to be a REVENGE variant of Vader

The fact that he's in the SDCC mega-pack (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/07-11/sdcc_box.JPG) is a pretty good sign too.  :P

Silly me.

All in all it's a slightly underwhelming first look.  I'm sure we'll see some more in a few hours. 

Security for the SDCC floor is relatively tight, and exhibitor badges are the only thing that will get you on the floor before Preview Night kicks off.  Those are tough to come by.  I managed to get one for SDCC coverage a couple of years ago and wound up pretty surprised by just how much I was able to photograph before the crowds came in for Preview Night.  I am very surprised to see that Superherohype was able to get in THIS early.  But unless we see a SW fan site get in early I think we won't see anything appreciable until about 8-10 PM ET tonight.

SDCC in person really is something impressive, and seeing it firsthand is the only way to completely grasp just how massive of an event it's become.  Almost all of the exhibitor booths are being built and setup right until the moment the doors open.  And word has been filtering in that some people already started lining up outside the convention center as early as Monday.

I also continue to be astounded by the fact that they're still managing to stay in San Diego.  When I went in 2009 I heard that there were an estimated 200,000 people in town for Comic Con.  It's a great city and I would definitely visit there some time other than Comic Con.  But the Con seems to be outgrowing the facility.  There's been talk of moving to another city, but San Diego seems committed to expanding to meet the growth of Comic Con.  LA seems to be contending for the Con, since so many movies are being promoted at the show.  But only Las Vegas may  have a big enough convention center and accomodations to host the show.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Paul on July 20, 2011, 04:04 PM
Yes, this set was listed in an overseas TRU computer so it's more of a confirmation than "new".  Seems to be TRU's Ultimate Battle Pack for this year (like the CW Slave 1 set last year) - X-Wing, Luke, R2, Vader's TIE, and Vader.  Not anything to get too excited about just yet...

I don't shop overseas, so I must have ignored that part.   
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 20, 2011, 05:54 PM
Vintage boxed Landspeeder pic at Sir Steve's Guide Facebook (no figure included).

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/284221_193673634023914_148167331907878_528052_6698092_n.jpg (http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/284221_193673634023914_148167331907878_528052_6698092_n.jpg)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JDH1173 on July 20, 2011, 06:50 PM
Is that a pilot pack in front of the speeder? 
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 07:00 PM
Is that a pilot pack in front of the speeder? 

It looks like one of the Battle of Endor sets that are currently TRU exclusives.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Phrubruh on July 20, 2011, 07:07 PM
I wonder if that is the bigger retooled landspeeder from a few years ago or just a repainted vintage mold.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt R. on July 20, 2011, 07:14 PM
I wonder if that is the bigger retooled landspeeder from a few years ago or just a repainted vintage mold.

Its the Saga Landspeeder but repainted.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2011, 07:16 PM
Yeah, definitely the Saga updated sculpt Paul.  Looks like the deco may be a little more accurate but the Saga wasn't bad.  Cool pic.

And that Pilot pack does look like the Endor set for sure, but that last word is so garbled and blurry it's tough to see.  :-\
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 07:23 PM
Sandtroopers preview night gallery (http://www.sandtroopers.com/events/sdcc2011/preview_night/pics/index.html) is live.  Nothing terribly surprising
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt R. on July 20, 2011, 07:25 PM
no hoth luke with tauntaun.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: CHEWIE on July 20, 2011, 07:32 PM
So far, very underwhelming outside of the Taun Taun, Landspeeder and Mando ship.  Hopefully it picks up.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 07:33 PM
no hoth luke with tauntaun.

According to the pics the Tauntaun is an exclusive.  No info on the place card about the retailer though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 20, 2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah, the Mando Gunship was nice, and the Trench Run set, but nothing else had much of a surprise factor. Kind of a letdown really.

Props to Sandtroopers for getting their pics up so quickly.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2011, 08:00 PM
For me, right now, the Taun Taun and Landspeeder are my only big "Oh I gotta have that!" toys.  The rest I'm not so hot on...  I had hoped maybe the Death Star set had something new in it, but it really appears not to, so I'll happily pass to save the moolah, but still a DS Gun would've probably gotten me to buy it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Diddly on July 20, 2011, 08:20 PM
I'm still kinda iffy on the Tauntaun... it's going to have to be significantly different from the one in the Hoth Battlepack (which I'm sure it will be).
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 20, 2011, 08:30 PM
The Landspeeder looks fantastic!  Love the box.  Let's hope some new stuff is revealed though. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: CHEWIE on July 20, 2011, 08:31 PM
Same here on the Death Star turret Jesse... I've got a pretty cool one made for me by a good customizer, but I've love to see Hasbro release one.  It would probably do a lot better at retail than they are thinking.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 09:23 PM
I think the Tauntaun priced out at $16.99, so it's not such a bitter pill to swallow.  As long as this one is specific to Luke, and the battle pack version is specific to Han, I'm fine with this.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Sybeck1 on July 20, 2011, 09:39 PM
I rate this a D minus so far. No new vintage figures yet, so what can you say.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2011, 09:47 PM
I rate this a D minus so far. No new vintage figures yet, so what can you say.

It's only preview night, more stuff is coming. How much of it do we already know about is the question.  :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2011, 09:54 PM
Yeah, it's too soon to rate it...  If Friday comes and goes, and there's nothing positive really, then yeah I'd say D ratings are even high.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: P-Siddy on July 20, 2011, 09:55 PM
Heck, there are even figures displayed that are considered "available now" that I've never seen in stores.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 20, 2011, 10:10 PM
Yeah, I had to LOL at the placard for Savage Oppress: "Available: NOW"

Sure it is. In Bizarro-world!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 20, 2011, 10:12 PM
Yeah, I had to LOL at the placard for Savage Oppress: "Available: NOW"

Sure it is. In Bizarro-world!

Where figures still cost $5 and the Tonnika Sisters were made in 2000. Also, the prequels were good.  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2011, 11:14 PM
Ooh, I like the Landspeeder and Luke's Taun-Taun.  I'm not a package collector anymore, but those are tempting anyway...  definitely panning on pick up Luke's Taun-Taun (unless there ends up being another, non-Kenner packaged version someplace).

Also like that Mando Shuttle from the CW vehicles.  Kind of nifty and a great place to cram all the Mandos from that Battle Pack I bought...  :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2011, 11:25 PM
Also like that Mando Shuttle from the CW vehicles.  Kind of nifty and a great place to cram all the Mandos from that Battle Pack I bought...  :P

I was thinking the same thing - a seat for Pre Viszla, the 4 Mando Warrior battle pack figs and the one that came with the speeder bike.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 11:30 PM
What, you passed on the single carded Mando warrior?  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2011, 11:38 PM
What, you passed on the single carded Mando warrior?  ;)

Crap. I only seem to remember the figures I've actually opened.  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 11:39 PM
What, you passed on the single carded Mando warrior?  ;)

Crap. I only seem to remember the figures I've actually opened.  ;D

Hey, I forgot to pick up the Mandalorian battle pack.  And now that's scarce as all get-out.  ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: jono on July 21, 2011, 04:40 AM
judging by cardbacks look like the Nom wave has merged with the Ponda wave. My hunch is the wave after this will have Kithaba, Evazon
,As well as -R2 A5,Maul and Jar Jar.  But we will find out soon enough.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 21, 2011, 10:18 AM
I found it shocking and pathetic that Hasbro actually had the Target TCW 2-packs on display, the exact same two sets that are currently being clearanced around the country.

I don't see the point in showing off stuff that has been out for months, like the Endor Pilot sets and Kit Fisto's Jedi Starfighter.

I get that they move some stuff around and may hold stuff back until after the slideshow, but there has to have been something more current they could have thrown in there. I did not see the new B-Wing for example.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediJman on July 21, 2011, 10:39 AM
The Mando Shuttle is my favorite new item thus far.  A cockpit that holds 6 figures?  Very cool.  I'll probably pick up the Taun Taun too.  Not happy about the price, but it's not that far out in a world where basic figures are $10 or more.  Jury is still out on the Landspeeder - it looks good and the vintage box is pretty spiffy, but this is one of those vehicles that has really stood the test of time.  Unless they're adding lights and sounds, I don't really need an upgrade.  Pretty underwhelmed at some of the new figures as well.  Bastilla Shan for example looks awful.   :-\
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JDH1173 on July 21, 2011, 11:03 AM
I have to agree with McMetal,  they have stuff on display that you can find at TJ Maxx and Ross.   ???
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Phrubruh on July 21, 2011, 08:18 PM
Sad thing is I was looking at pictures from Comic-con 2010 and still havn't seen some of these things for sale!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Paul on July 21, 2011, 11:25 PM
I guess we know why there was not the usual glut of Pre-SDCC leaks.... There was nothing to show.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2011, 01:10 AM
So I got off the phone with my friend out there at the show...

So far, he said they still had Death Star boxed sets, Indy figure cases, the Commando sets, all the GI Joe exclusives, and this was 2 days INTO the show that they had all of it.

He said the Hasbro Ticket system is just how they do things at SDCC (like Jayson said), and that the "lottery" rumor is something nobody's willing to cop to, and Hasbro had no clue where it came from even, and that it seems to have just originated at the Hasbro store among the people in line or something.

They've got all the exclusives though, so that bodes well for people hoping for these to turn up.  He said Hasbro's limiting the more limited stuff to 1-per, and stuff like the Indy cases to 2-per...  They're really controlling the flow so people aren't leaving with entire cases of stuff in one swoop, etc.

He said EE/TRU's Commando set was there in bulk and the EE rep said TRU's handling any post-show stock that may be left over, which leads me to believe TRU has their own stock for online right now and will have more when the show's done...  Little speculation there, but you never know.

Sounds like panic isn't quite necessary right now, and that Hasbro hasn't damned the collecting community for all eternity.

It sounds like things like the Death Star may sell out before show's end, but as of tonight it hadn't yet, so that's interesting.

I hope everyone who wants these sets can get them at some point.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediJman on July 22, 2011, 08:46 AM
This is really great to hear, especially on the vintage set that was supposedly going to be impossible to get outside the show just 24 hours ago.  Thanks for posting the straight scoop.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 08:57 AM
Does anyone know what time the Hasbro Slide Show presentation starts? I was thinking 11am but I can't recall if that is EST or PST time...

I actually took time off work to watch this. Yes, I am a huge nerd.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: David on July 22, 2011, 09:13 AM
11am PST.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 09:36 AM
If past years are any indication, we will probably see people live blogging the event, as well as the possible webcast.  THAT is one of the things that I was very proud to help get going at SDCC in 2009.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 02:03 PM
Hasbro Panel webcast = http://www.swactionnews.com/

I'll try to blog along as things get announced (work permitting of course). ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 02:05 PM
2011 Clone Wars... 
- first slides show the figures that are in the case now: Savage, Sno-Koon, Seripas, etc
- Rex comes with 2x backpacks, mega jetpack and regular
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:06 PM
thanks Jeff, Now I can follow in 2 places :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 02:08 PM
What's the other one? (in case the one I'm watching craps out ;))
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 02:10 PM
What's the other one? (in case the one I'm watching craps out ;))

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jeditemplearchives



I can't watch either stream for whatever reason.  Probably firewalled.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:10 PM
Scum is live blogging it as well, I can't get the swactionnews.com stream to come up...
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 02:12 PM
More from the panel...
- CW JarJar is a repack (by popular demand?)
- 2nd Savage (armored) was designed with vehicles in mind (able to sit in the in other words)
- DLX mini-Y-Wing, etc
- Mando Shuttle
- the $80 Attack Shuttle

Vintage Collection:
- through 2012
- inventory/distribution = we KNOW there are some issues out there (too many Dengar, Clones), they are working with retail trying to improve the situation.
- Many of the HTF 2011 figures will be re-issued with no changes in 2012 (ie, more Wedge is on the way!)
- "2011 Wave 4" (aka Wave 8; Evazan, Aayla, etc) is moving to 2012!
- "2011 Wave 5" = Revenge Wave is coming as scheduled = Revenge 12 plus Ponda, Echo Base Rebel, Bastilla
- 2012 Mail-Away Boba Fett
- Kid-aimed FX Sabers (shown at Toy Fair)
- www.jointhejedi.com = promo for kids - giving away free toys and a chance for kids to win another Clone Wars contest on lightsaber moves
- SW TFer Update: Anakin/Vader Star Destroyer,
- Jedi Force Updates: same as shown at Toy Fair

Exclusives:
- More Walmart Clone Wars DVD 2-Packs (with repacks)
- Walmart BARC and AT-RT
- Walmart Clone Wars team pack (repacks)
- More Target Kenner retro 3-packs (Wave 2 shown already in booth)
- Target gets the Kenner packaged Landspeeder / Taun-Taun assortment ($17)
- K-Mart Kenner packaged B-Wing (out now)
- TRU Commander Blackout Spec Ops Trooper ;)
- TRU Force Unleashed and Rep Commando box sets -
- [these were one last chance to hit these games before they move on to SWTOR focused sets for 2012/2013]
- TRU Kenner packaged Y-Wing (out now)
- TRU Clone Wars Assassin Spider Droid plus 2x Clones!
- TRU "Big Book Item" = Trench Run UBP; X-Wing has indeed been updated/refurbished with new fuselage with features


2012 Sneak Peek
- NEW Cardback Format = matches classic KENNER BOXES style
- 2012 Wave 1 = TPM QuiGon, Maul, Obi-Wan, Battle Droid, Rats/PitDroid, Tey How?
- Typho, BenQuadrineros, Padme, Naboo Dudes
[argh - stupid ustream commercials  ::)]
- Bluray deleted scene figures in Spring 2012 instead of Fall 2011= Luke saber-builder, Leia, Lando, Mon Cal Pilot
- Walmart TPM in fancy deluxe packages - Aurra, R3unit, Gungan, Pilot
- Naboo Droids/Gungan Battle Pack
- TRU Pod Racer Pilot super-pack with flags
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:14 PM
That's it?!?!

Did they even run slides for new battlepacks or the other Class 1 Fleet sets?
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:21 PM
So they finally address the distribution problem, and the solution is to reship them all in 2012?

How does that get rid of the 10 million clones and sandtroopers clogging the pegs?

Case assortment needs to be part of the fix as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 02:22 PM
That's it?!?!

Did they even run slides for new battlepacks or the other Class 1 Fleet sets?

There's always the big reveals at the end.  Wait.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:27 PM
More Walmart TCW DVD (Re)Packs...yee haw
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediMoses on July 22, 2011, 02:33 PM
So only one new wave of Vintage figs for the remainder of the year?
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:35 PM
Ahhh, Quadrinaros uber alles~
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 02:37 PM
Post Senate Padme, Darth Sidious, Naboo Royal Guard, Ratts Tyrell, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Maul, Ben Quadrinaros, Daultay Dofine, Battle Droid, Quinlan Vos, Padawan Anakin

http://t.co/INVGFrW

http://t.co/NS7a0s3

http://t.co/SvgtRe0
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediJman on July 22, 2011, 02:37 PM
So only one new wave of Vintage figs for the remainder of the year?

Sure sounds that way...unless the other stuff is early? 

Deleted scene figures?  Hmmn.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 02:38 PM
Mon Cal A-Wing Pilot, Gen Cracken, Jedi origin Luke, Sandstorm Leia, Sandstorm Lando

http://t.co/Gk34pHA
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 02:39 PM
bump to the new page...

More from the panel...
- CW JarJar is a repack (by popular demand?)
- 2nd Savage (armored) was designed with vehicles in mind (able to sit in the in other words)
- DLX mini-Y-Wing, etc
- Mando Shuttle
- the $80 Attack Shuttle

Vintage Collection:
- through 2012
- inventory/distribution = we KNOW there are some issues out there (too many Dengar, Clones), they are working with retail trying to improve the situation.
- Many of the HTF 2011 figures will be re-issued with no changes in 2012 (ie, more Wedge is on the way!)
- "2011 Wave 4" (aka Wave 8; Evazan, Aayla, etc) is moving to 2012!
- "2011 Wave 5" = Revenge Wave is coming as scheduled = Revenge 12 plus Ponda, Echo Base Rebel, Bastilla
- 2012 Mail-Away Boba Fett
- Kid-aimed FX Sabers (shown at Toy Fair)
- www.jointhejedi.com = promo for kids - giving away free toys and a chance for kids to win another Clone Wars contest on lightsaber moves
- SW TFer Update: Anakin/Vader Star Destroyer,
- Jedi Force Updates: same as shown at Toy Fair

Exclusives:
- More Walmart Clone Wars DVD 2-Packs (with repacks)
- Walmart BARC and AT-RT
- Walmart Clone Wars team pack (repacks)
- More Target Kenner retro 3-packs (Wave 2 shown already in booth)
- Target gets the Kenner packaged Landspeeder / Taun-Taun assortment ($17)
- K-Mart Kenner packaged B-Wing (out now)
- TRU Commander Blackout Spec Ops Trooper ;)
- TRU Force Unleashed and Rep Commando box sets -
- [these were one last chance to hit these games before they move on to SWTOR focused sets for 2012/2013]
- TRU Kenner packaged Y-Wing (out now)
- TRU Clone Wars Assassin Spider Droid plus 2x Clones!
- TRU "Big Book Item" = Trench Run UBP; X-Wing has indeed been updated/refurbished with new fuselage with features


2012 Sneak Peek
- NEW Cardback Format = matches classic KENNER BOXES style
- 2012 Wave 1 = TPM QuiGon, Maul, Obi-Wan, Battle Droid, Rats/PitDroid, Daultay Dofine
- E1 Vos, E1 Sidious, 'lil Anakin, BenQuadrineros, QueenPadme, Naboo Guard
[argh - stupid ustream commercials  ::)]
- Bluray deleted scene figures in Spring 2012 instead of Fall 2011= Luke saber-builder, Leia, Lando, Mon Cal Pilot
- Walmart TPM in fancy deluxe packages - Aurra, R3unit, Gungan, Pilot
- Naboo Droids/Gungan Battle Pack
- TRU Pod Racer Pilot super-pack with flags

Hopefully we'll have the slides later tonight...
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:40 PM
Where's Evazan?????

 ???
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 02:41 PM
Where's Evazan?????

Vintage Collection:
- "2011 Wave 4" (aka Wave 8; Evazan, Aayla, etc) is moving to 2012!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:42 PM
Ahh, here comes the Q&A, for the love of God somebody please get a pair of grapes and ask one of the hard questions.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Sybeck1 on July 22, 2011, 02:46 PM
Hoth Luke is on a road to far it seems.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt R. on July 22, 2011, 02:50 PM
Luke's Tauntaun coming and no Hoth Luke = FAIL, Hasbro dropped the ball again.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 02:51 PM
New speeder bike in 2012 according to GH
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Diddly on July 22, 2011, 02:58 PM
LIL ANAKIN. 1000 times YES. :D
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediMoses on July 22, 2011, 03:04 PM
Pretty cool stuff, but that makes 2011 in terms of basic carded figures a serious mess.  Waves 4-6 hit early, with poor distribution, Wave 7 now.  The we get Wave 9 with endless revision cases for the Revenge cards and that's it?  Am I missing something? 

Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediMoses on July 22, 2011, 03:07 PM
And I will be curious as to how they define a HTF figure.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 03:08 PM
we get Wave 9 with endless revision cases for the Revenge cards and that's it?

Pretty much... going to be a slow Fall for basic figures.  Unless of course they try to push the TPM stuff out a little early (Nov/Dec).

And I will be curious as to how they define a HTF figure.

Pretty much everything from Wave 4-6, plus Wedge.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediMoses on July 22, 2011, 03:22 PM
Would be nice if they tried to gauge demand some how other than just re-releasing the waves.  We are not going to need any of the ones that carried over - the AOTC Obi and Clone are sitting around a good bit, Jango is starting to as well.  I suppose they have production numbers and can go off of that at least a bit.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 03:40 PM
Very surprised to see that Hasbro is going to hold something back until NY Comic Con in October.  I may actually get to see something in person for once!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: P-Siddy on July 22, 2011, 03:57 PM
I hope Sandstorm Lando has his helmet... doubt it, though.

And re-releasing Daultey Dofine? Really? Seriously? A peg-warming Saga2 figure? If they're going to release a Neimodian, please do Tey How or Nute Gunray... a Neimoidian people really want. (I know they're probably saving on tooling cost by releasing this guy, but he'll just join the ranks of Clones on the pegs)

A new TPM Anakin! And the last TPM Padme! I'll be curious to know which pilots are included with the TRU Pod Racer Pilot super-pack.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jayson on July 22, 2011, 04:00 PM
The new Anakin is the Padawan version  :'(
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: P-Siddy on July 22, 2011, 04:01 PM
The new Anakin is the Padawan version  :'(

That one's dated, too, but yeah, he only has like, 10 seconds of screen-time compared to Tatooine Ani.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2011, 04:03 PM

And re-releasing Daultey Dofine? Really? Seriously? A peg-warming Saga2 figure? If they're going to release a Neimodian, please do Tey How or Nute Gunray... a Neimoidian people really want. (I know they're probably saving on tooling cost by releasing this guy, but he'll just join the ranks of Clones on the pegs)

You're mistaking Daultay Dofine (from The Phantom Menace) with Lushros Dofine (from Revenge Of The Sith).  Lushros Dofine was the pegwarming figure from 2006's TSC line.  Believe it or not, Daultay Dofine has *SOME* people who want him since he had some dialogue.  I'd prefer him to another Nute Gunray or Rune Haako.  But in the same regard, this figure is THE REASON why some characters should be shortpacked.  The Neimoidians have been historic pegwarmers and the way you prevent a figure from being a pegwarmer is by shortpacking them.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: P-Siddy on July 22, 2011, 04:05 PM
Ahhh, okay. Dofines are all over the place then. Then I'm cool with him if he's new.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Brian on July 22, 2011, 05:10 PM
Although the TPM stuff for next year looks nice and all, and I'll pick up many (or all) of the basic figures, I think I'm a little bit let down by what was shown today.  Not really much new for the rest of this year (outside of exclusives), which I guess is ok budget-wise - and basically all TPM stuff for the first part of 2012.  I guess that is expected with the 3D release, but hopefully they don't overdo it.  It isn't like it is the most popular movie in the world with people, although we haven't seen much in the way of TPM product in quite some time which could help.

The ROTJ deleted scenes figures look nice, and I really hope they toss a helmet in with that Lando because it looks (from the early pics) that it could be a nice "ultimate" Skiff Lando.  The Mon Calamari Pilot and others are neat too.  Still probably most excited about the new Taun Taun and repainted Landspeeder, and at least we'll have plenty of time to find Ponda Baba and others for the rest of 2011.  Hopefully they make some good choices with "re-releasing" some of this year's waves in 2012.  Still, just didn't seem like they showed a whole lot - even counting the usual pre-show leaks and rumors.  I guess they have a showing at NYCC coming up which might bring more.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 22, 2011, 05:39 PM
Luke's Tauntaun coming and no Hoth Luke = FAIL, Hasbro dropped the ball again.

Makes the Search For Luke Skywalker set a hopeless quest, huh?  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 22, 2011, 07:08 PM
It really does.

(Debbie downer alert) For the first time ever I can honestly say I feel let down and not impressed by the SDCC slide show. I am also really bummed that a wave I was really looking forward to Aayla, Evez and 501st have been bumped to 12. Did they confirm after the Ponda wave that's it until January? did they ever say when that wave will be out?

All of the TPM figures look great but what happened to Jar-Jar? Too many Pod guys in my opinion. And a WM exclusive wave with army builders, that will be fun to get.
They really botched this year up.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2011, 07:41 PM
I guess I'm in the minority who thinks a few exclusives and some cutting back on getting new basic figures is a nice respite.  Stuff's too costly, the line's needing a breather to sort its **** out, and this is something that may be a very good thing for it.

Hunt for some exclusives, not worry so much about the basic line because it's only going to have a short ammount of new stuff through fall...  I'm ok with that.

And TFU/Rep Commandoes getting cranked out so they can get to TOR boxed sets?  I just toy wanked!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 22, 2011, 08:08 PM
I can say for sure is that Ben Quadrinaros finally getting made is proof that 2012 is the end of the world.

I think the Evazan wave getting bumped and the exclusive Wal-Mart wave are irritating consider they gave us a filler wave earlier this year. 

I'm a bit surprised that more updated Clones using the new body aren't coming that soon. All you who sold off your 501sters...enjoy the wait.  >:D
 
Wal-Mart CLONE WARS DVD 2-packs containing one new figure each remind us that China-based ebay sellers are a gooood thing.

Hasbro's weirdness gives us Mando gunships with virtually no Mandalorians in stores, save the stray deluxe set and nigh-impossible to find battle pack. Luke's tauntaun and no Luke. Clone Wars Chewbacca with no one to interact with from his episode besides Ahsoka.  A spider assassin droid with its intended target non-existent in figure form. Pod racers with no pods (okay, that's not so surprising). A battle pack to stop a Zillo Beast that only exists as a backdrop. Remake of a deleted scene character but no JAXXON.  ;)

Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Darby on July 22, 2011, 08:20 PM
Very nice to see the TPM stuff.  The rest of this year is a flame out.  They should at least take the opportunity to hit up the market with some revision cases of HTF guys, Wedge, etc.  Very lackluster and even for CW, which is where the line is right now. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2011, 08:24 PM
What has me excited is that they will continue this each year with each movie as it comes out, which means to me that almost everything we have ever wanted will eventually get made.  These figures all look amazing and while most people are TPMed out it fills a ton of much needed holes.  It is also odd they ignored 2 figures from the ToyFare 09 poll when choosing this stuff in Tey How and Kitster/Wald
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Darby on July 22, 2011, 08:54 PM
Those, and also you know, 3-PO.  3-PO and Jar Jar are way overdue and they would have been better than say Vos or Pilot #2.  I agree, very good point: the next six years will be the victory lap, and if you wanted it you will get it.

Except Tonnika Sisters.   :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2011, 08:58 PM
Its been said that TPM C-3PO was the most expensive figure ever made by figure from a tooling and paint standpoint...that may explain his absence...I'm not sure if I do believe that or not

(http://www.rebelscum.com/episodeI/e1c3poloose.jpg)

To me...the original 3PO is fine.  Sure it can probably be a little more articulated but I'm OK with it.

Jar Jar though is a must
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Brian on July 22, 2011, 09:05 PM
What has me excited is that they will continue this each year with each movie as it comes out, which means to me that almost everything we have ever wanted will eventually get made.  These figures all look amazing and while most people are TPMed out it fills a ton of much needed holes.  It is also odd they ignored 2 figures from the ToyFare 09 poll when choosing this stuff in Tey How and Kitster/Wald

That is exactly what I was thinking as I was going through more pics/info here today.  One of the best things about this is that we could get a little "mini" push for each movie for the next six years.  Like Scott said, so much could be covered - and it could be a nice chance for new or long unseen vehicles, beasties, etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2011, 09:43 PM
yeah there could be insane **** coming, if TPM's any indication.

Just think about it...  they did a generic Naboo pilot, Naboo Royal Guard, Ric Olie...  There could be really REALLY cool figures on the way.  From the iconic to the odd, they could knock out some really good stuff.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Matt on July 22, 2011, 10:05 PM
You all are presuming that every movie's gonna get a 3D release.

Quote from: Rick McCallum
We’re doing 3D versions of all six films, one a year, starting in February of next year. We start with [episode] one and go all the way through six, totally chronological. One a year, if they work. If they don’t, then there will be just one [episode converted to 3D].

The 3D ‘Star Wars’ Conversions Could End After ‘The Phantom Menace’ (http://www.slashfilm.com/3d-star-wars-conversions-the-phantom-menace/)

And who knows if 3D will still be as popular four or five years from now as it is today.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediMoses on July 22, 2011, 10:08 PM
But I would really like to know the story behind why 2011 is essentially getting the shaft on figures.  I forgot that the AOTC wave was a 2010 wave after  the TPM wave is postponed a year   We get a lackluster Wave 5, a decent Wave 6, a great Wave 7 and a stripped down Wave 8/9.  It would be nice to have the real story as it might alleviate some of the frustration.

I just wonder what they are going to push for the holidays as there does not seem to be enough product.  Unless they just plan to let the pegs languish with clones and sandies.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2011, 10:37 PM
The other odd thing is that there were no new CW waves shown...again maybe NY CC but that is sort of weird...its not like there are any more spoilers on Season 3 and they should really try and get out some Season 4 stuff this fall
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2011, 10:45 PM
I'm thinking it's a reshaping of the line, personally.  Taking a step back, and looking at where they've got to adjust things, and giving some of the previous waves time to catch up maybe, while getting the Revenge stuff out.

Just a guess, could be completely wrong.  It just sort of fits though, to me.  Everything's in disarray, they're aware, and right now SW isn't the forefront of the toy aisle, so it's maybe a good time to just attempt to right the ship internally and use 2012 and TPM 3-D as a clean slate somewhat.

And Matt brings up a good point, but I can't see anything SW failing at the box office to the point that they'd shelve it.  Even The Clone Wars did ok when it came out I think, and a lot of people were dumping on it from the gate.  I thought it was good, but I'm a LFL whore at this point.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 10:55 PM
I'm not ready to dump on this presentation too much because we really have no idea what or how much they saved for NYCC.  For example, apparently they are cranking out an all-new Naboo Starfighter for TPM3D.  So that's a NYCC reveal I guess since they didn't mention it. 

They showed us three waves of CW to get through the early Fall, maybe they saved the other new stuff for NYCC?  I'm going to hold off on the "this was a terrible panel" talk for now.  It reminds me a lot of last year, where SDCC was sort of a let-down and then C-V had a lot more reveals.  Maybe it's the same thing now - early Fall at SDCC, Late Fall/Christmas stuff at NYCC?
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediMoses on July 22, 2011, 10:57 PM
GH has the images of loose 2012 figs.  Looks like everyone gets their wish for Skiff Lando.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 22, 2011, 11:12 PM
Mon Cal pilot looks to be all new tooling?

One thing I recall, the one EU figure per wave in 2012 thing seems to have been....delayed?

And no one is ready to admit what they secretly wanted to see at SDCC: what's coming in 2012 for Jedi Force.  ;) 
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scott on July 22, 2011, 11:14 PM
Well...Quinlan in the TPM wave and I suppose all of those ROTJ figures are technically EU
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2011, 11:16 PM
I can't dump on the panel at all...  I thought it was great what we saw that's new, and I'm actually excited about the hobby.

Was there a Q&A?  I figured that'd be the only thing people were truly pissed about.

I don't see a break in figures for a while as a bad thing though.  They're going full bore now for way too long.  Breaks don't bother me as much as they maybe once did.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2011, 11:20 PM
Was there a Q&A?

Yeah, but it was lame:  Why did Jet take a long time; [little kid asked] why was the DS box set so hard to get; why no star cases for vintage at HTS; why so many different lines cw/tvc/legends.

Nothing really worth mentioning...
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2011, 11:38 PM
Wow.

Well, people can't bust on the Q&A online anymore.   :P   :-*
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 23, 2011, 12:21 AM
I am hopeful that they actually do re-release figures from previously waves.  I wonder what they mean by it though?  What would they re-release?  Two figures?  Ten?  Which ones?  I am not that excited about one wave being exclusive to Wal-Mart but at least it's the biggest retailer in America.  So, the chances are hopefully good at getting them.  We'll see.  I really liked the deleted scenes figures.  I thought maybe they would end up being crappy or uninteresting.  I guess they will make ones from the other films???  I enjoyed looking at the presentation today.  Good stuff.  Although I have been more impressed with Sideshows 12 inch offerings.  That IG-88, Boba Fett, and Rainbow Battle Droids army looked great.  I can't really afford any of it but they look fantastic!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 23, 2011, 12:29 AM
All this Phantom Menace stuff is actually making me a bit nostalgic. It's a pretty great line up, a good mix of old and new. I'll be looking forward to the lot of them. I also agree that it bodes really well for the future films 3D releases if we can get a small push like this based on each one, we'll have several holes filled in for each film by the end of the 3D run.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Ryan on July 23, 2011, 01:42 AM
Wow.

Well, people can't bust on the Q&A online anymore.   :P   :-*

Only guys in pink sweaters can do that... Duh. ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Diddly on July 23, 2011, 01:52 AM
Sounds like they were only answering questions from planted crowd members. :P

while most people are TPMed out

Honestly I don't know how anybody could be TPMed out... we've had what, 2 waves of figures featuring TPM characters since the end of POTJ? If anything, TPM is the movie we need the most from, and it looks like Hasbro is delivering.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 23, 2011, 02:54 PM

while most people are TPMed out

Honestly I don't know how anybody could be TPMed out... we've had what, 2 waves of figures featuring TPM characters since the end of POTJ? If anything, TPM is the movie we need the most from, and it looks like Hasbro is delivering.

TPM seems to be getting a second wind with fans.  It took a long time for people to get over the retail disaster that was Episode I.  Retailers bought into that line SOOOOO heavily that it wound up being a regular fixture at retail for 3 - 4 years.  And with the movie, people are only starting to warm up to Jar Jar some 10+ years later.  And since we're now over 5 years past ROTS, I think fans are a little more ready to embrace the whole Prequel Trilogy with some level of nostalgia.

From a toy standpoint, we really have seen such marked advances since 1999.  The figure aesthetics of sculpt and articulation have come a long way, and I think there's a desire to get TPM characters done with a modern treatment.  I remember how hot the first Darth Maul figure was back in 1999, but that figure has not held up.  Hence the resculpts and newer versions. 

If the 3D re-releases go well, perhaps we'll see all the films get this kind of focused treatment from Hasbro.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 23, 2011, 07:36 PM
Sure most of them are dated, but some people make the old Episode 1 figures to be worse than they are, IMHO. There's few that are embarassing/awful as some of the early POTF2 releases or some of the later AOTC Saga era stuff. 

TPM was the only Prequel that felt like it got a real, as in old school Kenner era, toy line of its own. AOTC was a mess that didn't get its own packaging. ROTS was better, but was planned to end at the end of 2005, parts of its toy series felt rushed/half hearted.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2011, 07:56 PM
I agree - from my perspective, TPM toys in general and a lot of early 2000's toys get a lot of flack that I don't know is deserved.  Good example is Skiff Guard Lando - the 2004 (?) one is actually very good.  Ditto the General Lando.  When the new version of the Skiff Guard was announced yesterday, I saw quite a few leaped on the idea of replacing the Saga one.  Obviously this one is better - but I don't feel myself the last one is lacking.  This goes to a lot of other figures, too, including some TPM and POTJ ones.   A lot of those figures, the original Plo Koon, K-3PO, and on into the excellent Saga pieces (post AOTC) are still very good.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2011, 09:36 PM
It's like the Fleet Trooper to me...  The POTJ one was visually ok, but that's it, more or less.

Skiff Lando was a pretty figure, and neutral which was nice (for the time especially), but at this point I want one that actually can be posed to look like he's fighting, or standing around in the palace revealing himself for no reason, or whatever.

There's a ton of figures like this...  From Cantina aliens to army builers.  Nice to look at, but kind of meh for being an "action figure".  Major articulation upgrades of older figures almost always have me happy, unless it's something bland in the first place like a Senator or something.  I could easily live without a new Chancellor Valorrum for instance, and even Senate Palpy isn't high on my list.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Rune Haako on July 23, 2011, 10:36 PM
The MTT a possibility?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9N8GJJ4PiEY
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Nicklab on July 23, 2011, 10:57 PM
The MTT a possibility?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9N8GJJ4PiEY

I'd love one, but I don't see it happening.  I think the closest thing anyone is going to get to a toy MTT is the Pepsi MTT cooler from back in 1999.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 24, 2011, 01:05 AM
Most all of TPM figures looked great to me that were shown.  Now I can't tell on some of them because the pics were crap like Kenobi, Maul, and Jinn.  I was pretty excited to see Vos getting made myself.  Aurra Sing looked good, the Naboo pilots, Anakin, and yes my personal fav Ben Quadrinaros.  Even though he pissed me off initially when I saw him in the films.  He is the most absurd alien design in the entire Saga and yet somehow Lucas approved him.  LOL!  His figure actually looks pretty damn great to me. Now, that does not mean I will rush out and buy up all TPM figures but I'll probably get several of them.  Hell, even Daulty Dofine looks great! 

I am a bit miffed Dr Evazon is not coming out until later next year.  I was really looking forward to putting him by Ponda Baba ASAP (assuming I can find him that is).  I am assuming we are going to be getting more Deleted Scenes figures from the rest of the film in 2012?  Maybe we'll find out when Hasbro goes to that New York con in October?  Anyway, cool stuff I thought from Comic Con.  I do prefer the OT thought so it's not as good as say last year but still good to gaze at.  Again I can't believe the stuff coming out of Sideshow.  I can't afford any of their stuff but crap some of their stuff was awesome - IG-88, Boba Fett, all the Battle Droid variations, environments, General Greivous, whew!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: P-Siddy on July 24, 2011, 11:15 AM
It's like the Fleet Trooper to me...  The POTJ one was visually ok, but that's it, more or less.

Skiff Lando was a pretty figure, and neutral which was nice (for the time especially), but at this point I want one that actually can be posed to look like he's fighting, or standing around in the palace revealing himself for no reason, or whatever.

There's a ton of figures like this...  From Cantina aliens to army builers.  Nice to look at, but kind of meh for being an "action figure".  Major articulation upgrades of older figures almost always have me happy, unless it's something bland in the first place like a Senator or something.  I could easily live without a new Chancellor Valorrum for instance, and even Senate Palpy isn't high on my list.

Exactly. There are a lot of figures I'd like to see (like finishing off the Imperial Dignitaries), but they don't do too much in the movies but stand around, so I'd be happy if Hasbro would make them with limited articulation to fit in with the other 2. Or the dress Padmes.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Darby on July 24, 2011, 11:21 AM
That MTT answer was awfully non-committal.  That would be awesome if we saw that next year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 24, 2011, 03:18 PM
Awesome! That would really be the only way to display those rubbery battledroids effectively.  ::)

I do like the idea of the MTT, and I thought it was awesome in the movie. I just hate the rubberiness of the battledroids. And I don't see it changing with the new sculpt.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2011, 03:23 PM
The more I look at the pictures, I'm sort of excited for next year.  The past couple years I've been more interested in the OT stuff (well, that's always been the case I guess), and haven't been nearly as excited about PT stuff for the most part (although we've gotten some nice stuff).  I've still been picking much of everything, but I have to say that I'm starting to get a little excited about the TPM release and retail push.  As long as it isn't too overdone, and the figure quality stays as high as it looks in these pics, it could be a nice run.  I do hope we see the return of some more OT figures next year (outside of the cutscene ones, which look great), and really hope we'll see that new Hoth Luke sometime.

As far as the rest of 2011, it might be on the lighter side.  Like Jesse mentioned somewhere here, it might be kind of nice not having as much to chase.  I don't think I'll be going after all the "Revenge" recarded stuff, so outside of a handful of figures and the Landspeeder and Taun Taun exclusives, that might be almost it for 2011 - barring any surprises at NYCC.  It would be kind of nice to not have to spend all that money right before Christmas once :).  I am wondering if we'll see a "gap" next year as well like we have in previous years.  We'll have the big TPM push at the beginning, then the summer brings Avengers, Amazing Spidey, and GI Joe for Hasbro, so I wonder if we'll have a break until Fall-ish again or not?
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 24, 2011, 04:18 PM
  And with the movie, people are only starting to warm up to Jar Jar some 10+ years later. 

No. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 24, 2011, 05:22 PM
If this is the buzz created for TPM for the 3D release, I'm pretty hyped for the next couple of years for each movie re-release. Each SDCC should be pretty exciting.

However, I'm really disappointed by the lack of figures Hasbro put up for display. They put up figures we all knew were coming. I'm glad they did put up the 2012 TPM figures, but they didn't even put up the whole wave. I'd say I'm looking forward more to NYCC now.

Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Ryan on July 24, 2011, 07:16 PM
  And with the movie, people are only starting to warm up to Jar Jar some 10+ years later. 

No. 

If anything I only get more and more annoyed by him...
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: JediJman on July 24, 2011, 10:41 PM
  And with the movie, people are only starting to warm up to Jar Jar some 10+ years later. 

No. 

If anything I only get more and more annoyed by him...

Agreed.  I'm still hatin'.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2011, 10:36 AM
Poor JarJar.  Meesa feelin' soso sad yousa boys be bombad hatin on him-sa.   :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2011, 08:49 PM
And with that, Jeff is officially banned.

Thank you, please drive through.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 25, 2011, 08:53 PM
And with that, Jeff is officially banned.

Thank you, please drive through.

HA!

This made me laugh out loud! (Sorry Jeff)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2011, 11:03 PM
What yousa guys sayin?  Meesa say boom de gasser, den banished.  :(

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/07-11/jar-jar-binks.jpg)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2011, 11:10 PM
I don't know if we should ban you or call an intervention.  :-\

Oh ok, you know I'd take an SA Jar Jar in a heartbeat.  ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: speedermike on July 25, 2011, 11:13 PM
I must admit...I call my two boys "boyos" all the time.

Anyway, WTF?  Four new vintage figs the rest of the year?  (Ponda, Hoth Rebel, B-Wing Pilot and the EU girl)

Wow.  That flat out sucks.  Hey Hasbro, I have money and I want to spend it!!

On the other hand, the TPM figures look awesome.  Hopefully they will show up by the holidays. 

I'll be at NYCC, so I'll go to the panel and see whats up.---Mike.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 25, 2011, 11:31 PM
I'll make it even worse for you I think...  The B-Winger isn't new.  Unless I missed something on that.

He's the Keyan Farlander B-Wing figure from the Evolutions sets.

NYCC, that'd be fun to attend.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 26, 2011, 09:15 AM
Overall, I was underwhelmed this year. Sure, the vintage packaging stuff was cool, but only seeing a couple of new figures in the display case and seeing only TPM figures as the 2012 tease, pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: McMetal on July 26, 2011, 09:16 AM
So where is all the exclusive swag at HTS this morning? They don't even have a teaser up yet!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 26, 2011, 09:17 AM
New speeder bike in 2012 according to GH

Thank our own Bikerscout1 for asking that question and getting it confirmed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 26, 2011, 09:32 AM
I have to say, I kind of agree with Jeff. At this point, Jar Jar is so lame I kind of laugh at how lame he is. Don't get me wrong, I'm still rolling my eyes, but I'm not as angry about him as I am with Anakin...I hate that little bastard!
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2011, 12:45 PM
Agreed, totally.

I've hated Ani far more than I ever disliked Jar Jar in that movie.  Ani was such an unnecessary character in it even.  And annoying as all get out.

Like has been said before...  Make Episode 2's plot and time-frame the start of the prequals.  Make that when they introduce/find Ani (helping to push the, "too old to train" stuff from ESB)...  That's just a smarter use of that character to me, and would've avoided all the "Yippee!" crap.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Phrubruh on July 26, 2011, 09:21 PM
Agreed. Also make Count Dooku Obiwan's master instead of Qui-Gon. That would mirror Anakin turning to the darkside later.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 26, 2011, 10:59 PM
I always felt that he was trying mirror ANH with TPM....

Qui Gon = Ben Kenobi - both die at the end
Obi-Wan = Han Solo - the more "mature" hero
Anakin = Luke - the wide-eyed younger hero
Amidala = Leia - the heroic female
Jar Jar = Chewbacca - the non-human in the party bound by a life debt to a member of the party

If Anakin had been Luke's age and Jar Jar had been the quiet exiled warrior who had been banished for leading forces on the loosing side of a Gungan civil war, the overall plot of TPM would have worked MUCH better IMHO.

Move the events of TPM closer to AOTC and have the Sith Apprentice be Count Dooku from the beginning - as much as folks like Darth Maul, he was ultimately a distraction.

With this change up you get the added bonus of initially the Jedi thinking that Dooku is the Sith Master when he reveals to Qui Gon and Obi-Wan that he's a Sith and that deflects from any suspicions that might have existed regarding Palpatine and it's not until Dooku is killed that he reveals himself to be the Sith Lord pulling the strings all along.

So at the end of EP1, just have Dooku defeat his former apprentice (the reverse of what happens in ANH where the apprentice defeats his former master) and Obi-Wan force Dooku to flee. With Anakin being older and an accomplished pilot (as already established by Obi-Wan in EP6), it makes putting him a Naboo fighter make all that much more sense and the fact that his latent force powers helps him win the day (again just like Luke did with the Death Star) and that is what ultimately convinces Obi-Wan to start training him.

All of the rest of the plots could have flowed from that point on. Dooku could have still moved on to forming the Confederacy. Palpatine/Sidious could have still played both sides. The Clone Army could have been something that they started working on in the past as a part of their grand plan. Palpatine could/would have still been elected Supreme Chancellor out of sympathy for the fact that his system was invaded.

I'm not saying that that re-write is the be-all/end-all awesome plot, but it at least helps get rid of the over-the-top kiddie elements that even my 8 year old son at the time thought were ridiculous.
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Scockery on July 26, 2011, 11:04 PM
Jar Jar was useless to the movie. Oh, he leads the two Jedi to the Gungans, who loan them a sub to go to Theed.  Most of which was filler, really. It was like the KING KONG remake taking 45 minutes to get to Skull Island...we all know they are going to  get to the island...they have to,  or no big gorilla.

Qui-Gon Jin may have been an unneeded character. Make a full fledged knight Obi-Wan find Anakin, and thus he bears the great blame for the Republic's fall. Proof in point how unneeded two Jedi were....while Qui-Gon is in Mos Espa....Obi-Wan does almost nothing for all that time. It would be like having ANH character who stays on the Falcon the whole time they are on the Death Star.

This all belongs in another forum.  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2011, 11:17 PM
This is all pretty much in another section here, actually.  I know I've had this conversation with everyone before.  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 26, 2011, 11:21 PM
This is all pretty much in another section here, actually.  I know I've had this conversation with everyone before.  ;D

Very true.

You know, I'm really looking forward to the day after Geoge Lucas has passed on and someone at LucasFilm has taken over and decided that any and every Star Wars story should be made into a movie and as grumpy old men we sit around talking about how awesome the original six movies were when compared to the 20+ that had come out since Lucas' death...  :-\
Title: Re: SDCC 2011
Post by: speedermike on July 27, 2011, 11:29 PM
Y'know, I thought that B-Wing Pilot looked familiar.

And...they didn't even show any new Clone Wars figures.

Total bummer.  On the other hand, I've got my "Lost" Raiders figures coming home with a friend soon.