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Title: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: chris solo on June 8, 2003, 11:58 AM
Does Jar Jar Binks suck or am I alone on this one?
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Obi-Wan on June 8, 2003, 12:11 PM
No, your not alone everybody thinks he sucks. :P
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Batman on June 8, 2003, 01:21 PM
Yep, Jar Jar definitely sucks >:(
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: obi_robz on June 8, 2003, 03:04 PM
I too think Jar Jar was a really stupid character, but there are many other, and far more serious, problems with the OT besides old amphibian features.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: JediMAC on June 8, 2003, 05:34 PM
Big time.   :-X  Even more than Ewoks, and that's really saying something!   :D

Jar Jar must die.  Very soon...
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 8, 2003, 07:26 PM
I don't think that Jar Jar sucks, I think Best and Lucas screwed the character by making his voice like that and act the way he does at times.  Jar Jar is in a way a important part of the series of movies since he helps the Jedi get to Amidala and got the Nabooians and Gungans together to work towardss a better Naboo.  He then gives Palpatine the power that he needs to end up beoming Emperor.  So I don't really hate Jar Jar but more the actor and director ways of playing the character.  ;D
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 8, 2003, 07:39 PM
Even more than Ewoks, and that's really saying something!
Did you think I wouldn't find this?  >:( Well I found it and I can find you, too!
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Batman on June 8, 2003, 10:21 PM
Big time.   :-X  Even more than Ewoks, and that's really saying something!   :D

Jar Jar must die.  Very soon...

The Ewoks were not that bad.....they were cool characters and really went along well with Endor since it was a forest planet.  The only thing majorly wrong with the Ewoks is that they WON the battle of Endor!  They hit well armored stormtroopers with pebbles and the stormies were knocked out cold ::)  This disturbed me in ROTJ. >:(
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 8, 2003, 10:51 PM
Jar Jar would be easier to eat than an ewok because there is less shaving involved prior to preparation and consumption.

Plus, Jar Jar is more dispensable because he sucks  :P
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth Broem on June 11, 2003, 01:59 PM
Are you kidding me?  Jar-Jar is the schiznit!!!  LOL!  Yeah, they made Jar-Jar just a tad bit too annoying.  Oh well, he is not in the story line much anymore.  God willing.  
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Jesse James on June 11, 2003, 05:43 PM
I can tolerate Jar Jar, but had I been in charge he'd have been much more subdued.

I'd also either have given him subtitles w/less dialogue, or he'd have been like Chewie and R2 where you understand what he's saying by the context of replies from other characters.

He's a well-drawn character though, that's for sure...  One of the best CGI effects in modern film IMO.  Just the concept fell a bit flat on how he'd behave.  Could've been improved though, and he'd be an OK character then.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: chris solo on June 11, 2003, 08:24 PM
Fantastic opinion Jesse. I never thought about Jar Jar that way but your right. If they also eased up a bit on the comedy act, it would help blend it in with the OT.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Hung Solow on June 13, 2003, 02:37 AM
Sure, he sucks now, but in 20 years everyone will be wanting Jar Jar T-shirts for the nostalgia value.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 14, 2003, 02:38 PM
I recently viewed the Battle of Naboo portion of my EI DVD again.  Jar Jar should have been shot about 50 times in that scene.

I wonder if gungans smell like fish filet after a blaster bolt connects.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: dustrho on June 14, 2003, 08:50 PM
Jar Jar Binks was one VERY annoying character, but I really liked the Gungan species though.  If Jar Jar was just a normal Gungan (something similar to Captain Tarpals), he would have been a good character.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Sith Bounty Hunter on June 15, 2003, 08:34 PM
I don't think that Jar Jar sucks, I think Best and Lucas screwed the character by making his voice like that and act the way he does at times.  Jar Jar is in a way a important part of the series of movies since he helps the Jedi get to Amidala and got the Nabooians and Gungans together to work towardss a better Naboo.  He then gives Palpatine the power that he needs to end up beoming Emperor.  So I don't really hate Jar Jar but more the actor and director ways of playing the character.  ;D
No Binks is just plane stupid.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Lemon-Viper on June 18, 2003, 03:23 PM
I just hate the fact that in Attack of the Clones, Senator Amidala leaves him to vote against an army of the republic being formed.   Then he's stupid enough to fall for one blatently obvious attempt to persuade him to bring up the issue in the first place!

Either Amidala thinks Jar Jar Binks is smart, or she's just as stupid as he is.  Which may be why she falls for Anikin in the first place.  How do you fall in love with a whiny, slaughterer of woman and children, bad acting looser?  Oh, it was written into her script!  ::)

Oh, Jar Jar does stink!  Most of the people who said he could have been a lot better if they'd just have changed a few things, are completely right.  But don't worry, 10 years from now Lucas will re-release the films with new lines and acting for Jar Jar and all will be ok.

Just my humble, yet correct opinion ;)

Lemon-Viper
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Sith Bounty Hunter on June 29, 2003, 08:21 PM
Either Amidala thinks Jar Jar Binks is smart, or she's just as stupid as he is.

Honestly I think Amidala thinks Jar Jar is smart so that makes her stupid
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: chris solo on June 29, 2003, 08:25 PM
Now that was a deep thought. ::)
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 29, 2003, 09:14 PM
As far as Jar Jar giving Palpatine the emergency powers while Padme was away he did what he thought was in the good of the Republic.  Obi Wan gives the Jedi and the Republic leaders (Palpatine and others) information that there will be a war no matter what and it will be coming shortly so they was no time to recurit an Army.  With the other information that was giving by Obi Wan about the clones (who no one knows whoordered them) the fact is that the Republic needs to use this Clone Army.  
At this point is when alot of people's views may of change and maybe Padme would of being one of them but she was one of the first casuilty of the war being captured by the Enemy.  Jar Jar is then hears Mas Ameda talking about what would Padme do and decides that since she would of fought to save her people in EP1(Battle of Naboo) then she would of propably decided that war was inavatable so they should do something now before they get attack.  Jar Jar does do what he thinks is right giving Palpatine the Emergency Powers to order the Clone Army useage; powers which all Jar Jar and alot of other think he will give up after the war is over (Not knowing the whole situation with Palpatine).  
We don't know what Padme would of done had she been in the Senate but I have a feeling with what we seen of her in Ep1 that she would of eventually voted for the Clones once it came out that the Confedency was preparing to attack.  
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Snively Bandar on July 15, 2003, 08:56 PM
Does Jar Jar Binks suck or am I alone on this one?

Yep, he sucks.  Big time.

If you thought you might be alone in this observation, then obviously you haven't been paying much attention over the last four years!   :P
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: chris solo on July 16, 2003, 01:03 AM
I'm new to the computer world. Since February or so. It appears its just common sense to know that Jar Jar is as useful as the act of milking a dead horse. :-\
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Jango Fettish on July 16, 2003, 01:18 AM
Milking a dead horse, or beating a dead horse? I don't think you can milk a horse though. It has no TEETS!  :D

Ya know, David (Boba Binks) can testify that Jar Jar actually plays an important part in the SW Universe. Not only is he a kid movie viewer appeasement, he's the one that pretty much said yes to the creation of the Clone Army by giving Palpy the power. Thus leading to the end of the Jedi Order.

Gotta love Jar Jar..
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: chris solo on July 16, 2003, 01:27 AM
Milking a dead horse, or beating a dead horse? I don't think you can milk a horse though. It has no TEETS!  :D

Ya know, David (Boba Binks) can testify that Jar Jar actually plays an important part in the SW Universe. Not only is he a kid movie viewer appeasement, he's the one that pretty much said yes to the creation of the Clone Army by giving Palpy the power. Thus leading to the end of the Jedi Order.

Gotta love Jar Jar..

A horse has teets. Birds and lizzrads don't. You wouldn't want to breast feed a bird anyway (beek). The analogy is my own and you can see the lack of usefullness in milking a dead horse (wierd but the point is notable).

Jar Jar might have had a bit of a purpose but in appeasing the children they upset a large amount of OT fans with high expectations. He didn't need a "hip hoppish" accent, but I can sort of put up with Jar Jar's general poor humour stupidity.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: E.Z. on July 19, 2003, 10:49 AM
Every now and then I go through my figures and ask my wife who she thinks looks cool. I try to get her involved in something that uses a lot of my spare time.

Yesterday I showed her these and this were her reactions:

FX-7: "I don't really find him that cool, I don't know why" (after I had said "look at how cool he is")

Blue Coruscant Guard: "Wow he's cool"

Biker Scout: "Yah he's alright"

Jar Jar Binks: "Ugh, he's crap"
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: dustrho on July 21, 2003, 10:00 AM
Shawn, love your wife's reaction to Jar Jar.   8)
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Valtar on December 11, 2003, 10:39 PM

Jar Jar Binks: "Ugh, he's crap"


LOL! couldn't of been better said.  If you still don't know what I think of him HE SUX!
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth Delicious on May 11, 2005, 05:11 AM
I just watched Episode I again tonight, and I have to agree...Jar Jar sucks, in a big way.

However, I have noticed that Jar Jar doesn't ruin my enjoyment of Episode I quite as thoroughly as young "Manakin" Skywalker, Jake Lloyd. Every line he delivers makes me cringe even more than when Jar Jar says "Pee-yoosa."

"I'll try spinning! That's a good trick!" Oh god, please kill me.

I wonder why Vader didn't say that in the Death Star trench when Han came roaring up his backside in the Falcon? Might have changed the whole course of the war in that one moment.  :P

-DD
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Jesse James on May 24, 2005, 02:12 PM
Young Anakin's my beef with TPM as well...  Jar Jar's not the best, but you could've made him a tolerable character.  That Anakin though...  That kid's future is toast.

Like I always say...  "Was the 6th Sense kid busy or something?"

Of course, I'm now completely to the conclusion E1 wasn't a necessity even...  E2 = E1, an E2 that is central with the Clone Wars (the toon era), and E3 then.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: SilverZ on May 24, 2005, 08:41 PM
Someone asked me last night if they should watch TPM and AOTC before seeing the new movie. They'd previously attempted to watch TPM and fallen asleep, then never bothered with AOTC at all.

I recommended that she actually skip both, as I don't see much information in either movie now that would prevent an average movie-goer from enjoying ROTS. Not midiclorians, not the Anakin-Padme romance, not the Clone Wars, and not even Anakin's sweet-kid origins story. Nothing at all. I told her to jump into ROTS and remember what it was like with ANH, where it brings you into the story just when things are getting good.

Jar Jar is just as bad as Jake Lloyd to me. Curse Rob Colman, and the naive animators that felt every time the character was on-screen it needed to move. Not with subtlety, either, but with a CG sledgehammer. They animated him so that he competes for attention full-throttle through the whole movie. He rips me out of the movie more than Lloyd's awful acting, to me.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Jesse James on May 25, 2005, 12:41 AM
I thought he was animated well actually, but the dialogue and manner in which he was present in scenes was what killed him.  You subtitle him, or have 3PO interpret (Or have Padme interpret as if she can speak their language from living on Naboo, and obviously limit some of what he's saying) and I think he'd have been better...  Loyd I think's just a bad actor start to finish.

I agree wholeheartedly with not having to watch TPM and AOTC...  Though I would like my gf to try watching AOTC before this weekend, but that's not going to happen.  TPM though, it really is useless overall.  E2's story sorta helps...  It gives some "beginning" to things as they are ending in E3...  TPM does nothing.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on June 2, 2005, 10:17 PM
Yep, I don't much care for Jar Jar either.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 3, 2005, 02:02 PM
Here's my thoughts on Jar Jar, and I have a feeling a lot of you are going to slap your head and scream "of course" after you read this:

Was Jar Jar annoying? Yes? Was he a clown? Yes. But, this is the reason why Jar Jar was a total failure as a character - he did not follow any type of heroic arc. Jar Jar was introduced as a screw up, and he remained a screw up through out the entire film. Jar Jar would have been much more succesful (as a character, purely on a story level) if he had actually learned something durring his journey and then applied it while in battle to help take out some battle droids. He still would have been annoying, but in the end, I think somewhat tolerable with some redeeming quality.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Nathan on June 13, 2005, 02:58 PM
Recently I re-watched TPM twice (once in preparation for ROTS and once after) .... it might just be the 6 years of people bitching finally having an effect on me, but I must say, Jar Jar wears thin a lot faster now than when I was 13.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: speedermike on June 13, 2005, 10:48 PM
Darth Anton, that is the best Jar-Jar observation I have every read.  I've often felt the same thing.

I remember seeing some picture from TPM of Jar-Jar on the Naboo battlefield,  the caption was "Jar-Jar saves the day."  I was like, "huh?  When?"
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: VadereX on June 19, 2005, 09:14 PM
Ehhh, he doesn't ruin the movie at all or anything, but by the end he is kind of annoying. He's not that bad IMO though.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: dafoo on July 5, 2005, 10:35 PM
Heh, Just take away the moronic way of talking from him and it would have been a LOT better!  There you still have goofy for the kids and not mindrattling annoyance for the adults.

Yeah Anakin acting stunk too.  Just a simple cutting back of his lines would have helped greatly.

Lucas just SUCKS at dialogue, no ifs ands or buts about it.  Lucas needs help with dialogue. IT was much better in the OT before Lucas become the unquestiond diety of all things. He needs someone to tell him the truth. "George your dialogue sucks, my 6 year old could do better, seek help!"
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 7, 2005, 12:28 PM
He needs someone to tell him the truth. "George your dialogue sucks, my 6 year old could do better, seek help!"

He did, his name was Gary Kurtz. Lucas fired him for it.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: dafoo on July 8, 2005, 12:20 AM
LOL AH, the almighty Oz has decreed no criticism!
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Ben on July 18, 2005, 10:56 PM
Heh, Just take away the moronic way of talking from him and it would have been a LOT better!  There you still have goofy for the kids and not mindrattling annoyance for the adults.

Yeah Anakin acting stunk too.  Just a simple cutting back of his lines would have helped greatly.

Lucas just SUCKS at dialogue, no ifs ands or buts about it.  Lucas needs help with dialogue. IT was much better in the OT before Lucas become the unquestiond diety of all things. He needs someone to tell him the truth. "George your dialogue sucks, my 6 year old could do better, seek help!"

It's hard to write good dialogue. Especially when your story is populated with armed hippies, planet-destryoing superlasers, and Ewoks, and it's set in a galaxy far, far away.

Some of the best-written dialogue also doesn't sound like the way people talk. Witness Kevin Smith's movies (except Jersey Girl, of course). Sure, it reads well, but you can just see the guys who played Dante and Randal are reading cue cards occasionally.

Not saying Jar Jar and Anakin are excused from anything, just saying it's damn hard to write effective dialogue.  :)
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: dafoo on July 19, 2005, 02:53 AM
When I can come up with better lines on the spot, yeah that's a sign for improvement.

Lucas and dialogue don't get along
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 16, 2005, 04:56 PM
**** the dialog side track.......

JarJar= hated IT >:(
         = wanted to see him assasinated after the funeral
             by a betraying ANNAKIN slicing him in half from
             between neck and shoulder to down by hip...watch
             top half slide off while he makes that dumb little
             surprised sound he makes. ;)
          = if this happened I would hear several adult males
             in the audience snickering in delight and I really
             think it would help jusify a PG13 rating and darken
             the film more! ;D
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: blaster_e11 on October 7, 2005, 07:15 AM
hey guys as i've already done on other boards, i have to confess something about jarjar, and i'm not proud of it : my wife love the guy (she still calls him "jajar" though) and she makes me buy jar jar toys  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Ryan on October 9, 2005, 05:30 AM
Weird as it may seem I think I am one of the only people who is NOT bothered by Jar-Jar. I don't know why but for some reason I can tolerate him and almost like him.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Mr.el lucco on October 19, 2005, 07:21 PM
How could you hate him he has a major involment in the story. But it is belaved he died on alderaan after the death star blew it up.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 19, 2005, 09:50 PM
How could you hate him he has a major involment in the story.

And that's exactly why I hate him.  >:(
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Joe on November 9, 2005, 10:00 PM
Yeah Jarjar can get annoying but who Said they Hate ewoks..........yeah Im With angryewok we'll find where you live.........
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 9, 2005, 11:14 PM
Meh. I'm too lazy for that, anymore... I'll just erase my opposition's profile and claim it was a mistake.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Joe on November 9, 2005, 11:39 PM
ahh Its good to ana masdbn av.......o sorry no jiberish time its good to be on your side then....
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: Greg on November 11, 2005, 01:22 PM
I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I really think that Jar-Jar is a cool and funny character. I liked him in TPM and AOTC, but I'm glad he only had one line in ROTS, because his humor wasn't needed, especially with R2's humor in the beginning.
Title: Re: Jar Jar Binks
Post by: David on November 14, 2006, 09:31 PM
But it is belaved he died on alderaan after the death star blew it up.

yay i hate him