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Title: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on March 30, 2021, 12:23 PM
The Bad Batch is coming back on May the 4th and the trailer just dropped (https://www.starwars.com/video/trailer-the-bad-batch).  It looks pretty sweet.

It looks like at least some of this takes place after Order 66 and The Clone Wars officially end.  And I had forgotten that Echo joined the crew.  Hopefully we're getting a 6" Bad Batch version of him soon too.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: JediJman on March 30, 2021, 03:23 PM
The Bad Batch is coming back on May the 4th and the trailer just dropped (https://www.starwars.com/video/trailer-the-bad-batch).  It looks pretty sweet.

It looks like at least some of this takes place after Order 66 and The Clone Wars officially end.  And I had forgotten that Echo joined the crew.  Hopefully we're getting a 6" Bad Batch version of him soon too.

This looks great!  Stoked for all the great Star Wars and Marvel content coming our way over the next few years. 
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 30, 2021, 04:03 PM
Looks really good!  I like how Ming Na is voicing Fennic Shand.  Looks like Rex is showing up as well!

I wonder if the control chips in CF-99 don't work or if they are going to have to get them removed like Ahsoka did for Rex.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on March 31, 2021, 12:12 PM
It's interesting to see Tarkin involved in the story.  And it looks like we might see some kind of a transition from the Clone Army to the Stormtroopers.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: McMetal on April 18, 2021, 03:41 PM
Whew, for a minute there i was worried there might not be a pointless, annoying kid character thrown into the mix, but the new poster has set my mind at ease.  :D
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on May 4, 2021, 04:09 PM
Iím looking forward to watching the show this evening.  Iíve been able to stay spoiler free so far, but I think the trailers have alluded to where the story is going. 

The one interesting detail I took from an interview with the producers has to do with the number of episodes.  I think this season is slated for around 16 episodes in total.  The pilot came out today and the following episodes are scheduled to drop every Friday after that.  At first I thought that Disney wouldnít want Star Wars and Marvel shows to run at the same time, but I guess thatís not a big concern.  Especially considering the number of shows that are going into production. 
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on May 4, 2021, 05:44 PM
Iím looking forward to watching the show this evening.  Iíve been able to stay spoiler free so far, but I think the trailers have alluded to where the story is going. 

The one interesting detail I took from an interview with the producers has to do with the number of episodes.  I think this season is slated for around 16 episodes in total.  The pilot came out today and the following episodes are scheduled to drop every Friday after that.  At first I thought that Disney wouldnít want Star Wars and Marvel shows to run at the same time, but I guess thatís not a big concern.  Especially considering the number of shows that are going into production.

Yeah.  Once all the production teams get ramped up in 12 months I think we'll have a near continuous stream of new Star Wars and Marvel shows broadcasting concurrently.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 4, 2021, 06:42 PM
I wasn't really thrilled with the bad batch episodes from season 7 of TCW, but I do like where this series is going.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on May 4, 2021, 10:34 PM
Don't want to post spoilers just yet, but did want to pop in here and say that I really enjoyed the first episode.

Will be interesting to see where they take this show and how certain characters (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=25255.msg623714#msg623714) are going to be received by the fan base...
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on May 5, 2021, 09:38 AM
It was a decent first episode, and wow was it long (that's what she said).  I think it clocked in at just over an hour.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on May 7, 2021, 09:56 AM
I think enough days have passed for us to discuss episode 1.  Spoilers (?) from Episode 1 below.




For the most part I thought the first episode was decent. 

I'll be interested to see if they explore the Bad Batch's loyalties and who they identify with.  They don't necessarily follow orders perfectly, but they must have historically been receiving orders from someone.  Was it the Jedi directly?   Was it Republic admirals like Tarkin?  Will that lead to any particular loyalties towards remnant Jedi (like the orphaned padawan) or are they off on their own trying to just survive?

I thought it was interesting that their base was on Kamino and not really associated with a Republic base, but really a vendor for the Republic.  Not sure exactly what to think of that or if that was just a plot device to add Omega to their crew.

The one thing that I'll be interested to see how they explain is how Omega is a Jango clone, but a female.  Not sure why they just didn't make Omega a male, but I guess they might be trying to appeal more broadly to viewer demographics.

They've got 16 episodes to tell whatever story they want, so it should be plenty of room to go wherever they want.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on May 7, 2021, 12:18 PM
Not sure why they just didn't make Omega a male, but I guess they might be trying to appeal more broadly to viewer demographics.

In my previous post, I linked to McMetal's comment because I had the same thought when I saw Omega -

a pointless, annoying kid character thrown into the mix

Really hoping they have something planned for her beyond "what if one of the clones was somehow a girl"!

In fairness, I kinda hated the whole "snips and skyguy" stuff from TCW movie - it took them a while to 'find' Ahsoka's character and that character really blossomed over time.  Maybe there is hope for Omega yet...
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on May 11, 2021, 12:35 PM
Spoilers for Episode 2





I thought episode 2 was a bit formulaic and boring.  It was the classic adult/orphan dynamic where the less responsible protagonist adult tries to leave the child with a family where they'll be better off.  The orphan rebels from the family, creates a crisis, and ends up staying with the protagonist. 

Now that we've got the fact that Omega is staying with the Bad Batch, hopefully they can move on and tell a more interesting story.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on May 11, 2021, 02:39 PM
I feel like I have to voice *SOME* measure of concern about one aspect of the series premiere.  Notably, the Jedi Master and her Padawan.  Having watched the entire Rebels series multiple times, you know that it's something that was part of Kanan's backstory.  But this came across like it was making the universe smaller, not larger.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on May 11, 2021, 03:10 PM
I feel like I have to voice *SOME* measure of concern about one aspect of the series premiere.  Notably, the Jedi Master and her Padawan.  Having watched the entire Rebels series multiple times, you know that it's something that was part of Kanan's backstory.  But this came across like it was making the universe smaller, not larger.

Oh wow, I didn't even catch this. 

I totally agree that it should have just been some random Jedi Master and padawan, unless its critical to the storyline later somehow.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 11, 2021, 03:26 PM
I'm enjoying the show so far.  The second episode was a bit on the slow side, but we're still in the set up stage so it's forgivable.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jesse James on May 12, 2021, 02:44 AM
Was able to watch this last weekend and itís ok...  I wasnít hyped for it like I maybe should be but itís ok so far for me.  Iím excited to see where it goes...  on the Padawan, at first it didnít click but the voice was.... odd.  Familiar I guess but didnít match the kid and stuff and it then clicked.  I liked clone wars fine but had my complaints and I feel this show will be similar for me.  Episode two was def slower feeling. 

I liked seeing that dude again though...  wondered what happened to him but I couldnít recall if thereís a reason we already knew that the Bad Batch knew of him and where he was. I feel like Iím forgetting that we saw that, at some point. 🤔

Love their ship...  loved seeing theyíre outcasts even among clones.  Omega is fine to me...  I mean, as widely different as the BB are themselves, I figure a female Jango is by no means absurd, haha. 

And of course Iíll be miffed we donít get a set of figures of the group. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on May 12, 2021, 10:30 AM
I liked the Clone Wars storyline about Cut Lawquane.  With an army of millions of clones who the Kaminoans said were taught to think creatively, that some would turn (like in the first season) or that others might desert.  But I also had the same thought - how would the Bad Batch know about him?

I also like the idea of Omega.  I could tell early on that she was almost certainly a clone.  The accent alone seemed like a bit of a giveaway.  Besides, the Kaminoans made the members of the Bad Batch different from the "regs" with genetic modification.  Making a female clone would just be a matter of changing a couple of chromosomes, so why not?  Plus she seems to have other skills, too.

It's also interesting to see the introduction of the chain codes, as well as the starship registration.  Those are nice nods to plot elements that came up in The Mandalorian, but they were introduced in a way that seemed relevant  to this story.  And I'm guessing that the Imperial officer in the hologram who was talking about the codes is Vice Admiral Rampart.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 12, 2021, 10:32 AM
on the Padawan, at first it didnít click but the voice was.... odd.  Familiar I guess but didnít match the kid and stuff and it then clicked. 

It clicked for me when we finally saw his lightsaber.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 12, 2021, 10:36 AM
I also like the idea of Omega.  I could tell early on that she was almost certainly a clone.  The accent alone seemed like a bit of a giveaway.  Besides, the Kaminoans made the members of the Bad Batch different from the "regs" with genetic modification.  Making a female clone would just be a matter of changing a couple of chromosomes, so why not?  Plus she seems to have other skills, too.
My guess is that she will be force-sensitive, perhaps the result of using the genetics of a Jedi combined with clones.  Leads us right to Grogu.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 12, 2021, 11:32 AM
I also like the idea of Omega.  I could tell early on that she was almost certainly a clone.  The accent alone seemed like a bit of a giveaway.  Besides, the Kaminoans made the members of the Bad Batch different from the "regs" with genetic modification.  Making a female clone would just be a matter of changing a couple of chromosomes, so why not?  Plus she seems to have other skills, too.
My guess is that she will be force-sensitive, perhaps the result of using the genetics of a Jedi combined with clones.  Leads us right to Grogu.

I really hope you're wrong.  I'm hoping that she's got some sort of knowledge on cloning or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on May 12, 2021, 02:07 PM
The headband/jewelry Omega wore is reminiscent of things worn by Shaak Ti and Ahsoka.  And Shaak Ti was assigned to oversee training on Kamino.  Little hints like that do make you wonder. 
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on May 12, 2021, 02:31 PM
Maybe Omega is Rey's mom?   >:D
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: McMetal on May 12, 2021, 02:37 PM
Not sure why they just didn't make Omega a male, but I guess they might be trying to appeal more broadly to viewer demographics.

In my previous post, I linked to McMetal's comment because I had the same thought when I saw Omega -

a pointless, annoying kid character thrown into the mix

Yeah, pretty much what I expected...a basic plot device to screw things up and add levity. I get they want kids to watch but the older I get it seems less whimsical and more grating.

I like the series fine overall, just wish it was a little less of her.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 12, 2021, 02:44 PM
I enjoyed both episodes so far. Glad to have some new SW, but I think live action Star Wars TV has ruined me ever being as into animated SW.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jesse James on May 15, 2021, 09:00 PM
Maybe Omega is Rey's mom?   >:D

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Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 21, 2021, 11:11 PM
It was fun having "her" in the episode.
I need a figure of the little maintenance droid.
But otherwise that was an ugh episode for me.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on May 23, 2021, 06:14 AM
It's kind of interesting to see these guys on the run.  They kind of fit in, but at the same time they don't.  And this transitional period from the Republic to the Empire definitely makes for some confusion.

I agree, it was definitely good to see "her" in the episode.  And even better that it's the same actor providing the voice.  I'm curious about who she's working for, especially considering the bounty.  Could it be the Kaminoans?

So far the show seems very much like a continuation of Clone Wars.  And considering that's precisely where all the characters came from it probably should.

The Walrusman nod was very fun.  And the droids?  Definitely some good comic relief along with Echo.   I'm kind of hopeful that Disney will offer some of those droids in one of their 4-packs.  Although I'm also hopeful that they might do a droid multipack from The Mandalorian first, but that might just be wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 23, 2021, 06:17 PM
I'm enjoying the show so far.  Fennic Shand this week was cool.  I have a feeling it's the Kaminoans who hired her to bring her back.

I like how the Bad Batch are on the run, and they're not used to this and they have to figure it out as they go.  They are also making mistakes, which is something you would expect.

The biggest reason I'm enjoying the show is because my oldest son and I are enjoying watching it together.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on May 27, 2021, 06:45 PM
I'm hoping the whole series doesn't revolve around Omega. 

I had hoped she would be an interesting plot driver and maybe some comic relief, but so far a lot of the show has been driven by her character. 

I'm hoping that it gets to be a bit more about the whole Bad Batch and getting Crosshair back in the fold.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on May 28, 2021, 11:04 AM
I just watched this week's episode.  And it looks like we're already getting a bit more of a look at how the criminal underworld of Star Wars functions.  And it also had some nice links between Clone Wars and the OT.  The new character, Sid, seems like she's going to be an interesting recurring character in the series.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 1, 2021, 09:11 AM
The most recent episode was the first one that I think was totally "fun" and what I was hoping for with this series.  It had little to do with Omega and was about the whole crew getting a mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 1, 2021, 09:12 AM
Big debate on the internet concerning the fate of Moochi.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jedi Idej on June 1, 2021, 01:36 PM
(edited to remove hints of spoilers)

People falling in love with Moochi and losing their mind at the possibility it is the one.

It'd be a pointless sidebar to the episode if Moochi isn't. His/her inclusion is an easter egg, not red herring.

Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 14, 2021, 01:44 PM
Pretty solid episode last week.  I liked connecting Rex in with the Bad Batch.  I think it would be awesome if the Bad Batch got hooked in with the Rebels somehow and were used as Stormtrooper infiltrators.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2021, 02:30 PM
I liked connecting Rex in with the Bad Batch.  I think it would be awesome if the Bad Batch got hooked in with the Rebels somehow and were used as Stormtrooper infiltrators.

I know this "small universe" stuff bugs quite a few people, but I don't mind that basically every episode has the Bad Batch bumping into someone from TCW, Rebels, The Mandalorian, etc.

I thought it was cool that it was Rex that helped them get rid of the chips, mainly so that the chips weren't a lingering plot point hanging over the Bad Batch heads making us wonder if/when they'd switch on.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 14, 2021, 02:44 PM
The small universe stuff does bug me a bit, but to me it seems natural for Rex to seek out the Bad Batch and vice versa. 
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on June 15, 2021, 07:41 AM
+1 on the concerns over the "small universe" concept.  But in this case Rex seeking out the Bad Batch works.  They had a full story arc together in season 7 of Clone Wars, and Rex had an even longer relationship with Echo. 

As for the Martez sisters showing up in the previous episode?  That seems like a little bit of a stretch.  But after bringing Rex into the series this past week, I feel pretty certain that Rafa and Trace reached out to Rex in the hologram transmission at the end of the episode on Corellia.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on June 21, 2021, 11:23 PM
I know this "small universe" stuff bugs quite a few people, but I don't mind that basically every episode has the Bad Batch bumping into someone from TCW, Rebels, The Mandalorian, etc.

Another episode, another TCW character shows up.   :D
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 22, 2021, 08:48 AM
I know this "small universe" stuff bugs quite a few people, but I don't mind that basically every episode has the Bad Batch bumping into someone from TCW, Rebels, The Mandalorian, etc.

Another episode, another TCW character shows up.   :D

Apparently there are only five bounty hunters in the whole galaxy, and they live for a long time, so yeah...
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on June 22, 2021, 09:17 AM
Or you hire the best when you have the money and the target is that important to you. There aren't five lawyers in world or sports agents but sometimes it seems like it.

You've got an excuse to get Cad back into our minds then sign me up Disney.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 22, 2021, 09:23 AM
I loved the episode.  I'm hoping that it takes a couple of episodes for Cad Bane to get to Kamino with Omega and he has a run in with Boba Fett and maybe Fennic Shand!
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 22, 2021, 09:52 AM
Don't get my wrong, I've enjoyed the last couple of episodes too, but sometimes the small universe thing bugs me a bit. 

I'm not sure if they bring back Cad / Fennic because they think its fun, or because they're lazy and don't want to sketch out a new character.  Probably some of both.

They went to the "trouble" of creating the Cid character when they could have had it be Jabba, Xizor, or maybe Darth Maul.  I'm glad they created the new character as it feels more original.  So I guess reusing some of the same characters when they don't need to sometimes just feels lazy.

Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on June 22, 2021, 10:26 AM
You've got an excuse to get Cad back into our minds then sign me up Disney.

It would be a nice reason for Hasbro to re-issue the 6" Cad Bane/TODO set as a deluxe item in the Bad Batch packaging too.  I know a lot of folks who missed that set when it came out...
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Corman on June 22, 2021, 12:33 PM
You've got an excuse to get Cad back into our minds then sign me up Disney.

It would be a nice reason for Hasbro to re-issue the 6" Cad Bane/TODO set as a deluxe item in the Bad Batch packaging too.  I know a lot of folks who missed that set when it came out...

This is a great idea that is fan friendly and would make a world of sense.

It'll never happen.

Corman
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 25, 2021, 01:07 PM
Good episode today.  The Rexin Around show on Youtube has a theory that the Disney+ series will be enhancing the sequel trilogy the way the Clone Wars and Rebels enhanced the Prequels.

There was a lot of evidence for that theory in this episode.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 28, 2021, 10:23 AM
One thing I'm a little confused on is the magic of Jango Fett's DNA. 

I just assumed he was a great athlete / warrior and was selected to be the clone DNA sponsor, but I didn't get the sense that there was anything galactically unique with his abilities.  In all the different books/comics, etc. did they ever explain if there was something super special about him?

I know they need a plot and some conflict, but I'm not clear on why Jango's DNA is so important.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on June 28, 2021, 10:56 AM
I was wondering the same thing. Why does it matter she has "first generation" or whatever they called it DNA? Just grab some other strong smart etc person.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on June 28, 2021, 11:03 AM
I know they need a plot and some conflict, but I'm not clear on why Jango's DNA is so important.

Yeah, it kinda makes no sense from a story point of view or a science point of view.  If Omega is somehow a female clone of Jango's X chromosome, then they'd have lost any/all detail from Jango's Y Chromosome.  Boba Fett would 100% make more sense to track down and find if they really need/want Jango's orginal donor XY DNA mix.

I guess I can ignore it for now and hope they explain what makes Omega so special a little better down the road.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on June 28, 2021, 11:05 AM
Cad Bane is one of those characters that you just love to hate.  And he's been pretty well developed over the course of the Clone Wars.  His involvement in the Bad Batch series in this capacity isn't too difficult to justify.  He's right for the time period since this is all happening weeks or months after the end of the Clone Wars.  His role with the Separatists was more as a mercenary than anything else.  And it seems like Lama Su wanted to hire the best for the job.

The competing interests of the Kaminoans seems unclear right now.  They seem to be at odds with the Empire over the future of cloning operations based on their interactions with Tarkin.  Lama Su seems to want Omega back, and dead.  Nala Se seems to want to protect Omega.  And poor Taun We got killed in the process!  In the Clone Wars the Separatists attacked Kamino in an attempt to secure the source DNA and destroy the cloning facilities.  I'm guessing that Omega's DNA is valuable because of what the Kaminoans said about Boba Fett and her - they were the product of pure genetic replication with no alterations.  She could be the potential donor for a new Clone army.  And given the proven nature of the previous Jango Fett clones, they seem to be a valuable commodity in general. 

It's also interesting that they referred to Boba as Alpha for a couple of reasons - the obvious Alpha to Omega concept (beginning to end);  and the name Alpha was used for an ARC Trooper during the Dark Horse comics Clone Wars titles, which pre-dated the Clone Wars animated series of 2008.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 28, 2021, 11:25 AM
The competing interests of the Kaminoans seems unclear right now.  They seem to be at odds with the Empire over the future of cloning operations based on their interactions with Tarkin.  Lama Su seems to want Omega back, and dead.  Nala Se seems to want to protect Omega.

I agree. 

This conflict got me thinking along with the statement that the Bad Batch is going to support the sequel trilogy.  I wonder if there are factions that are working for The Emperor on his cloning tech and there are others that are still aligned with the old Republic / Jedi and what it stood for, like Nala Se.

I've not seen any other story lines, yet, that seem to have any bearing on the sequel trilogy, so it'll be interesting to see if there are other plot lines that help develop some of that back story.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 28, 2021, 03:31 PM
Lama Su mentioned in an earlier episode that the source DNA they are currently using is degrading....so Omega being a "pure" sample of the source DNA makes sense as to why they want her back.  What's unclear to me is why Lama Su would want her killed after they got her back.  It would mean they would be facing the same problem in a few years.  I have a feeling there's something more to Omega's DNA that we just don't know yet.

BTW, Boba Fett has been mentioned...he's going to show up at some point.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on June 28, 2021, 03:34 PM
BTW, Boba Fett has been mentioned...he's going to show up at some point.

I wonder if that is where Boba and Fennic will first meet that makes Boba saving her in The Mandalorian make more sense.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 28, 2021, 03:39 PM
BTW, Boba Fett has been mentioned...he's going to show up at some point.

I wonder if that is where Boba and Fennic will first meet that makes Boba saving her in The Mandalorian make more sense.

I've had similar thoughts.  Also, the alternate facility that the meet up took place is interesting and could have ties to the Mandalorian as well as Rise of Skywalker.  I'm ok with them not completely explaining it, but just giving up hints along the way.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on June 29, 2021, 06:50 AM
The potential for that kind of linked backstory would definitely make the relationship between Boba Fett and Fennec Shand that much more meaningful.  Boba had been working with Aurra Sing as a kind of mentor, but that situation fell apart because he had significant differences with her because of her brutality.  Fennec Shand might be a bounty hunter, but she seems like she might have more of a code than Aurra, who just seems like an outright assassin.  That shared sense of honor, as it might be for bounty hunters, could be something that Fennec and Boba Fett share.

The Kaminoan facility on Bora Vio does seem like another clue about secret cloning operations.  The failed clone that came out of the one tank evoked thoughts of a certain Sequel Trilogy character.  Truthfully, it's nice to see some threads being sewn through the current entertainment that lead towards where the ST would be (where you don't have to read the Aftermath novels).
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 29, 2021, 10:05 AM
The potential for that kind of linked backstory would definitely make the relationship between Boba Fett and Fennec Shand that much more meaningful.  Boba had been working with Aurra Sing as a kind of mentor, but that situation fell apart because he had significant differences with her because of her brutality.  Fennec Shand might be a bounty hunter, but she seems like she might have more of a code than Aurra, who just seems like an outright assassin.  That shared sense of honor, as it might be for bounty hunters, could be something that Fennec and Boba Fett share.

The Kaminoan facility on Bora Vio does seem like another clue about secret cloning operations.  The failed clone that came out of the one tank evoked thoughts of a certain Sequel Trilogy character.  Truthfully, it's nice to see some threads being sewn through the current entertainment that lead towards where the ST would be (where you don't have to read the Aftermath novels).

The creature that came out of the toppled tank was a kaminoan.  Although I agree I thought it looked like something from the tank in either Chapter 12 of the Mandalorian or TROS.  My theory is that this facility was commissioned by Chancellor Palpatine during the war (the Kaminoans are pretty insular and it would be almost out of character for them to be on other planets) for the specific reason of making different strandcasts or something more.  Like I said, I'm happy with just hints of something bigger and leaving the rest up to the viewer.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: McMetal on July 11, 2021, 07:56 PM
That was a weird episode this week. Like they were guest stars in their own show or something.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2021, 11:05 AM
That was a weird episode this week. Like they were guest stars in their own show or something.

Yeah, it felt like I was watching the first episode in a Rebels prequel show and Bad Batch was the cameo this week...
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 12, 2021, 11:21 AM
I think you're going to have to look at last week's and this week's episodes as one episode.  There was a lot of setup and the BB is going to have to pull off some type of rescue this week.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on July 12, 2021, 02:06 PM
It's interesting to see the threads running from Clone Wars to the Bad Batch and on to Rebels.  Especially given Cham Syndulla's role in the two previous series.  But I feel like we keep on getting into this whole concept of making the universe smaller, not bigger.

That being said, Hera was one of my favorite characters in Rebels.  It's cool to see her again, and maybe I should have expected something like this after the way the series began
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2021, 02:13 AM
Yeah what Matt said.  I think a rebellion on Ryloth may become a bigger arc and Ryloth becoming an early alliance alligned group is old Legends stuff so thatís kinda neat to see it fleshing out. 

As always I wish I just had figures.

Seems like Chamís Clone buddy is gonna maybe turn?  Itíll be interesting to see how Clones react to fighting against friends who arenít really encompassed in their Order66 programming.  Maybe that doesnít impact them as much since itís not a Jedi.  Would be possibly why Bail was let go?🤔
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Dave on July 14, 2021, 12:41 PM
That was odd that The Bad Batch had such a small role, but I didn't mind it.  I haven't found the Bad Batch stories all that great, so mixing it up with some origin story stuff is fine by me.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 14, 2021, 01:32 PM
I find the things going on around the Bad Batch is more interesting than what is directly happening to them most of the time.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: McMetal on August 8, 2021, 11:48 PM
Great episode this past week. Kamino has always fascinated me, so to see all the inner workings was really cool I thought. Bittersweet too obviously.

Speaking of figures, I am now dying for 6Ē Pykes. They were in my top 5 Most Wanted list for the Clone Wars line, and it was so enjoyable to see them again recently.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 9, 2021, 10:25 AM
I'm really enjoying this show overall.  There are some episodes that are better than others, but that is to be expected.

We have gotten a good view of how the Empire took control of the Galaxy both separatist worlds like Raxxus and Republic worlds like Ryloth.

We're currently seeing how the clones are being phased out.  Still more to come on that one.

We've also gotten some more hints about what happens on Exegol setting up the Rise of Skywalker.  For the record, I don't want a full explanation of Clone Palpatine...just hints here and there.  Enough to keep the Fandom Menace flipping out that Disney has no plans to retcon the ST.   :D
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2021, 01:53 AM
I enjoy that trolling thought. 

Rubbing out more bad batch is welcome.  The show is pretty good...  didnít even start off terribly slow.  Loving the early TKs.  Itís solid stuff.
Title: Re: Bad Batch (Disney+)
Post by: Nicklab on August 10, 2021, 03:00 PM
Without even having seen the season finale, it has been a really solid first season for The Bad Batch.  The series has weaved a number of storylines together, from the prequels through the Clone Wars, and from there onto Rebel, the OT and those little seeds for the sequel trilogy.  It has also given a more complete picture of the underworld and how it would function during the Imperial era.

One thing that really caught my attention on Friday's episode?  The use of some of the Kamino music cues from the soundtrack for Attack Of The Clones.  It added to the atmosphere in a big way.   And seeing the not so bright and shiny details of Tipoca city was interesting too - especially seeing the lab where Clone Force 99 and Omega were created.

The twist involving Crosshair was well done.  The callback to the mirrors that he used in Clone Wars on Skako Minor required some attention to detail.  I think Crosshair taking out those droids in order to save the rest of the Bad Batch was intended to give viewers some false hop that he would reject the Empire.  But then to learn that he had his inhibitor chip removed, and that he really does view the Empire as the best option was eye opening, but not completely surprising.