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Community => JD Sports Forum! => Topic started by: Matt on July 4, 2008, 04:09 PM
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Do I get to start the NBA 2008-2009 thread?
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Yes.
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Sweet.
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I didn't miss anything overly pertinent in this thread in the past month or so, did I...? :-X
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Pardon my language but holy ******* crap :o It's alive!!!
Nice to have you back buddy.
And no, you didn't miss much.
(http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Boston-Celtics-Photograph-C12270819.jpeg)
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The new season tips off tonight. Anyone else care?
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Enjoy the season, Go Lakers, and hopefully my fantasy league players do well.
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The new season tips off tonight. Anyone else care?
I do.
Hopefully the Lakers can win it all this year.
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The new season tips off tonight. Anyone else care?
Professional basketball still exists?
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The new season tips off tonight. Anyone else care?
I do.
Hopefully the Lakers can win it all this year.
I guess that will depend on whether the league decides they are due or not. Still really, really happy the Celtics won last year. Still can't shake the feeling that the end result was predetermined.
Otherwise yeah, I'm interested, but as with most sports more from a fantasy perspective than anything else. I prefer college basketball with all their quirky whatchamacallit, yeah, rules.
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It looks like Allen Iverson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3679931) is headed to Detroit, in exchange for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess.
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It looks like Allen Iverson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3679931) is headed to Detroit, in exchange for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess.
I caught that as a rumour earlier this morning :o
I could care less what happens to either team, but it could mean a monstrous impact for me for fantasy. I know AI has PG by his name, but I just don't see him as a true PG. I'd figured Carter would step in as the starter in Denver at PG and shift AI to SG with JR Smith coming off the bench. Oops, guess Carter is back to the bench period with Billups going PG and probably putting Smith into the starting lineup for good.
Naturally I just traded away Brandon Roy in the effort of getting bigger because I figured I was ok with AI as a hybrid SG/PG and Miller as my pure PG, so I wanted to get bigger. I still think the trade is beneficial, but whereas two weeks ago I felt loaded at PG, now I'm a little more anxious to say the least.
I'm not seeing AI as a good fit in Detroit. Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
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It looks like Allen Iverson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3679931) is headed to Detroit, in exchange for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess.
:'(
Man it has been a ****** couple sports days here in Denver. The Broncos got embarassed (again) yesterday, The Avs dropped their game to the Sharks last night, and then this...
I like Billups, and I think he should hopefully be a good fit for this team but I'd still much rather have Iverson here. It sounds like McDyess probably won't ever even play here and will likely just get cut and resign with Detroit after 30 days. The Nuggets need to be looking at their coach, not all their players as the source of a great deal of thier problems...
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When did AI leave the Sixers?
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Remember when I was all pissed off at Kevin McHale for trading OJ Mayo for Kevin Love and Mike Miller...yeah, still pissed off, maybe even more so.
**** you Kevin McHale >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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So ... is anyone in the league playing better than Wade right now? He's currently in the top five in scoring (2nd), assists (5th), steals (3rd) and blocked shots (5th). The fact that he's 5th in blocked shots as a 6'4" guard is just ridiculous. He's doing everything for that team. Too bad it isn't going to end up meaning anything.
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Wade is kicking booty; he's putting up some awesome numbers. I don't know how he's blocking all those shots, but that does seem to be amazing as a guard. He commits a lot of turnovers (2nd in the league with 51 so far), but I guess guards are more prone to do that.
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He commits a lot of turnovers (2nd in the league with 51 so far), but I guess guards are more prone to do that.
Yeah ... especially for one that has the ball in his hands as often as he does. Check the top ten in turnovers. There are some pretty decent players on the list.
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**** you Kevin McHale >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Minnesota Timberwolves fire coach Randy Wittman, name Kevin McHale as replacement (http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_11168154)
The only good thing I read from that article is...
"McHale, Wolves vice president of basketball operations since May 11, 1995, will step down from that job to concentrate on coaching, the team announced." It almost reads like Taylor said it's your mess so you coach them. :P
Since McHale is stepping down as vp, maybe that means they can fire him free and clear after the Wolves continue to suck the rest of the year? Scotty, would you be willing to trade a 21-61 season knowing it will get rid of McHale for good?
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Melo dropped 33 in the third quarter last night! That's just nuts.
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Anyone watching the Lakers at Celtics today? I'm curious as to how the Lake Show will perform in Boston. Lakers then play in Cleveland on Sunday. Can they hang with the beasts in the East?
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Anyone watching the Lakers at Celtics today? I'm curious as to how the Lake Show will perform in Boston. Lakers then play in Cleveland on Sunday. Can they hang with the beasts in the East?
I'm definitely intersted to see Kobe vs. LeBron on Sunday ... especially after what they both did to MSG this week.
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Great show put on by Nate and Dwight. I think if Dwight switched his dunk order the outcome might have been different. The free throw line one was a downer. It might have been different had he taken off from the free throw line, but he was so far in. His off the side backboard dunk and 12 foot dunk was very spectacular and fun to watch. Props to Nate though. For his height, I wish I had some hops like his 8).
I also really liked Rudy Fernandez's dunk, but it took so many tries for him to get it done.
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Great shootout between Wade and LeBron last night. I'm still pissed about the outcome because the Heat had that game won, but what can you do? LeBron has teammates that respond when he needs them, and for the most part, Wade doesn't. Ah, the joys of a young team. Regardless, it was still fun to watch them play against each other.
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Great first day of playoffs.
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I guess I'll go on record here with Lakers over Cavs in the NBA Finals.
I just don't see how a healthy Lakers team with Kobe, Gasol and Bynum is going to lose a 7 game set to LeBron.
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I guess I'll go on record here with Lakers over Cavs in the NBA Finals.
I just don't see how a healthy Lakers team with Kobe, Gasol and Bynum is going to lose a 7 game set to LeBron.
I have to agree. In fact, I'd be completely shocked if it wasn't the Cavs and Lakers in the Finals. Boston was the only other team that had a legit shot at the title ... until Garnett went down. So ... though it appears that their may be some drama in the early rounds, it's going to get a bit predictable after that.
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I realize that the Heat don't match up well against the Hawks, but ... wow. I couldn't even watch the whole game last night. Watching that team completely suck ass made me realize even more why Wade should get strong MVP consideration. If you take him off of the team, the Heat are easily the least-talented team in the playoffs. How he managed to get them to 43 wins during the regular season baffles me. And he played like **** last night as well. This could be a short series if they don't make some adjustments quickly.
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As others have said, I think a Lakers-Cavs Finals matchup is pretty likely at this point. With Garnett likely out for the playoffs, I don't see anyone in the East standing up to Cleveland. The Lakers look pretty strong at this point as well, and I don't know that the West has anyone that can beat them. If Ginobli was playing for S.A., I would maybe give them a really outside shot, but otherwise I don't see it happening. As much as I'd rather Kobe not being able to win a ring "on his own" :P, I think this might be their year.
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I realize that the Heat don't match up well against the Hawks, but ... wow. I couldn't even watch the whole game last night. Watching that team completely suck ass made me realize even more why Wade should get strong MVP consideration. If you take him off of the team, the Heat are easily the least-talented team in the playoffs. How he managed to get them to 43 wins during the regular season baffles me. And he played like **** last night as well. This could be a short series if they don't make some adjustments quickly.
Wade is a strong candidate for MVP, and so is King James.
The Cavs are just about equally talentless as the Heat would be, if you removed James the same way you removed Wade from his squad. Both are first round fodder without their star.
Kobe's case is not the same, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom could more than carry their team to a .500+ record. And there are a host of other above average players there too.
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Wade is a strong candidate for MVP, and so is King James.
The Cavs are just about equally talentless as the Heat would be, if you removed James the same way you removed Wade from his squad. Both are first round fodder without their star.
Kobe's case is not the same, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom could more than carry their team to a .500+ record. And there are a host of other above average players there too.
Oh, I know ... but LeBron is going to win it. The Heat don't have a good enough record for Wade to win.
At least the Cavs have another All-Star. The Heat really don't have much. Their most talented players are rookies. They are good, and will get better, but they're not there yet.
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The Bulls / Celtics game was really good tonight. It always appeared as though one team was going to go on a big run, but the other always found a way to get back into it. When the Bulls were up 6 or so in the last minute+, I actually thought they had a chance to pull it off. Ray Allen was just lights out in the second half though for the Celtics.
So did anyone else notice what a punk Garnett was making himself out to be tonight? What was with the facial jestures and the swearing at the Bulls bench? He really showed no class tonight IMO...
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Way to come back strong, Heat. You got the split in Atlanta that you needed.
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Ummmmm.... ****....I'm still speechless.... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Al5ZQ5SA7UB_dIXYziFeltw5nYcB?gid=2009042703)
:o :o :o
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Yeah, that's insane. This was in New Orleans too. The fans probably want their money back.
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It looks like Allen Iverson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3679931) is headed to Detroit, in exchange for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess.
:'(
I like Billups, and I think he should hopefully be a good fit for this team but I'd still much rather have Iverson here. It sounds like McDyess probably won't ever even play here and will likely just get cut and resign with Detroit after 30 days. The Nuggets need to be looking at their coach, not all their players as the source of a great deal of thier problems...
By the way... choke on your words DUMB ASS. ::)
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The Bulls/Celtics series is an instant classic. Hopefully tomorrow's game isn't a blowout.
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Based on how this series has gone, hopefully, it'll be another overtime extravaganza. Rose, the 20 year old rookie, has really stepped up as well as others on both sides. Fantastic basketball so far.
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Best NBA play-off series I have ever seen. And this is coming from someone who lived in Chicago during the Bulls previous two 3-peats...
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LeBron James easily takes NBA MVP
(http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AkcMSCgxYj0zInSzRBHdAQ.8vLYF?slug=ap-nbamvp&prov=ap&type=lgns)
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Best NBA play-off series I have ever seen. And this is coming from someone who lived in Chicago during the Bulls previous two 3-peats...
Blasphemy!
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How hilarious is it that the NBA and WWE are having a fight over the Nugget's stadium. I hope there is a steal cage match between the two.
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How hilarious is it that the NBA and WWE are having a fight over the Nugget's stadium. I hope there is a steal cage match between the two.
I can guarantee someone at Kroenke is getting fired for this. ::)
Honestly though, I'm surprised that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often, or it at least isn't shown in the media. It seems like it would be really difficult to coordinate hockey, basketball, and indoor lax playoffs along with the other arena uses (concerts, WWE, and that kind of stuff.) I don't think that there is any way that the Nuggets/Lakers game won't be at the Pepsi Center on Monday night. It will be interesting to see what that lawsuit looks like though. :-X
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The conference finals have been awesome so far.
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I agree...I still cannot believe Lebron hit that shot the other night. It was one of those moments that reminded me of when I actually cared about the NBA. :-\ A lot of that apathy is due to the local squad but man, I just find it hard to watch any more. These conference finals have started to suck me back in (just a little)
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Honestly though, I'm surprised that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often, or it at least isn't shown in the media. It seems like it would be really difficult to coordinate hockey, basketball, and indoor lax playoffs along with the other arena uses (concerts, WWE, and that kind of stuff.) I don't think that there is any way that the Nuggets/Lakers game won't be at the Pepsi Center on Monday night. It will be interesting to see what that lawsuit looks like though. :-X
i can't believe the nba didn't check the schedule there and just push it to tuesday. since its the finals its not like there is alot of other games to schedule around.
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Lakers back in the finals. Hopefully they win it this year.
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Hopefully, these 3 rounds have toughen them up. Their offense has got to be one of the best (if not the best) in the NBA. Their defense can be strong. They've responded after each loss so far in the playoffs. Whoever comes out of the East will present their own set challenges for the Lakers I'm sure. It's all about the matchups and adjustments in playoffs. For now, I'm going to enjoy the rest of the Cavs/Magic series.
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Most assuredly cheering for the Magic.
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It would be something if the Magic channel the '03-'04 Pistons and really take it to the Lakers.
That would be another colossal upset to be sure.
I still gotta stick with my original prediction of Lakers as champs. The Magic do not have the D that the Pistons had when they beat the Lakers.
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It would be something if the Magic channel the '03-'04 Pistons and really take it to the Lakers.
That would be another colossal upset to be sure.
I still gotta stick with my original prediction of Lakers as champs. The Magic do not have the D that the Pistons had when they beat the Lakers.
I think the Magic will beat the Lakers in 6. The Lakers struggle in pick n roll defense and guarding the 3, both of the Magic strengths.
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I think it will be a tough series for the Lakers since the Magic have both an inside and outside game. Can Gasol and Bynum slow down Superman? Defense will be key for both teams. The Magic won both regular season games and got pretty balanced scoring from their starters. Jermeer Nelson was a huge factor in both games, but since he's not around for the playoffs, it'll be interesting to see how that impacts the matchups. The Lakers need to get both at home to start this 2-3-2 Finals format.
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Jermeer Nelson was a huge factor in both games, but since he's not around for the playoffs, it'll be interesting to see how that impacts the matchups.
It's being thrown around but seems unlikely. Magic mull possible return of Nelson for finals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-nbafinals-magic&prov=ap&type=lgns)
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Great victory by the Lakers, apparently D-Fish still has something left.
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Since when has Kobe started chewing gum during a game? I saw it for the first time yesterday. Wanna be like Mike?
Fisher was clutch when it was needed. Fisher, Ariza, and Gasol were my MVPs for game 4. Kobe couldn't hit FTs in game 3. The Magic couldn't hit FTs in game 4.
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It kills me that millionaire basketball players can't make free throws. Have a good summer knowing you cost your team a championship.
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Woohoo! Lakers are the NBA Champs.
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Mission accomplished! Congrats to the Los Angeles Lakers.
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**** you Kevin McHale >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Minnesota Timberwolves fire coach Randy Wittman, name Kevin McHale as replacement (http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_11168154)
Since McHale is stepping down as vp, maybe that means they can fire him free and clear after the Wolves continue to suck the rest of the year? Scotty, would you be willing to trade a 21-61 season knowing it will get rid of McHale for good?
Finally (http://www.twincities.com/ci_12607391).
(I should note that McHale did manage to out do my prediction and go a whopping 24-58 instead of the paltry 21-61 I guessed. :P)
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Man, I can almost hear Scott crying with joy over that. Guess it's back up to Hibbing and some fishing.
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Yes, I was happier than a pig in slop today. McHale made two great picks...Garnett and Starbury. He traded both though for nothing and has made terrible picks and free agent signings. Marbury turned out to be a punk but man oh man those first 3 years they played together was fun as hell. Hitting on Garnett though gave him free reign to dig this team in to the ground which he further did by trading him. I could go on and on...not resigning Cassell and Sprewell, forcing out Flip Saunders, getting rid of Chauncy Billups, Joe F'n Smith, continually failing to land or develop a big man to play alongside KG
It is a good day and there is at least now a glimmer of hope again...maybe :-\
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Don't forget that you have Al Jeffereson, who is one of the best young big men in the league. I know that he has to recover from a torn ACL, but reports say that he's ahead of schedule.
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Don't forget that you have Al Jeffereson, who is one of the best young big men in the league. I know that he has to recover from a torn ACL, but reports say that he's ahead of schedule.
Al is alright but on a good team he's a #2...plus he's sort of not a Center or a PF which makes for some bad moments on Defense
The Wolves need a Center and PG which has been their problem since they started playing in 1989 (outside of the Steph years and the one year with Sammy C)
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Wolves need a Center and PG which has been their problem since they started playing in 1989
You're not trying to dis Felton Spencer or Luc Longley are you? >:(
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Wolves need a Center and PG which has been their problem since they started playing in 1989
You're not trying to dis Felton Spencer or Luc Longley are you? >:(
Yes...and...the following:
Michael Olowakandi
Sean Rooks
Rasho Nesterovic
Mark Blount
Dean Garrett
Cherokee Parks
Randy Breuer
Marc Jackson
Brad Lohaus
Gary Leonard
Stanley Roberts
Trevor Winter
Steve Johnson
Nikoloz Tskitishvili
Paul Grant
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Wolves need a Center and PG which has been their problem since they started playing in 1989
You're not trying to dis Felton Spencer or Luc Longley are you? >:(
Yes...and...the following:
Michael Olowakandi
Sean Rooks
Rasho Nesterovic
Mark Blount
Dean Garrett
Cherokee Parks
Randy Breuer
Marc Jackson
Brad Lohaus
Gary Leonard
Stanley Roberts
Trevor Winter
Steve Johnson
Nikoloz Tskitishvili
Paul Grant
You forgot the " Great " Stacy King. ::)
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A couple of trades so far, leading up to Thursday's NBA Draft:
Spurs Get: F Richard Jefferson
Bucks Get: F Bruce Bowen, F Kurt Thomas, F Fabricio Oberto
Wolves Get: #5 Overall Pick, possibly F/C Etan Thomas, F Darius Songalia, F Oleksiy Pecherov
Wizards Get: G Randy Foye, G Mike Miller
I think that gives the Timberwolves four first round picks this year, including the fifth and sixth selections.
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I really hope they aren't done yet and can package something to move up to 2 or 3 to nab either Thabeet or Rubio
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Wolves Get: #5 Overall Pick, possibly F/C Etan Thomas, F Darius Songalia, F Oleksiy Pecherov
Wizards Get: G Randy Foye, G Mike Miller
I think that gives the Timberwolves four first round picks this year, including the fifth and sixth selections.
I really hope they aren't done yet and can package something to move up to 2 or 3 to nab either Thabeet or Rubio
I haven't really cared about the T-wolves in a long time... McHale = blech. I can't remember the last time I went to a game, but I know Flip was still the coach.
All this firing McHale and hoarding draft picks has slowly piqued my interest again. Like Scotty, I'm hoping that grabbing our 4th 1st-round pick is just a pre-cursor for another step/trade. It would be great to package the #5/#6 picks to move up for Rubio or Thabeet.
I'm not all the way back on the bandwagon again, but I'm certainly close enough to it to hear the music...
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Sounds like ownership has decided it is time to go back to square one with Jefferson there as the item to build around. I like the idea. I'm curious whether Scott thinks they should have kept OJ Mayo last year to be another building block? Jefferson, Mayo and four first rounders would have made for a mighty young team, but could have been pretty cool in a couple of years if they drafted well.
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Sounds like ownership has decided it is time to go back to square one with Jefferson there as the item to build around. I like the idea. I'm curious whether Scott thinks they should have kept OJ Mayo last year to be another building block? Jefferson, Mayo and four first rounders would have made for a mighty young team, but could have been pretty cool in a couple of years if they drafted well.
You must have forgot my rant from last year after the draft
Does anyone have a team I can root for? Kevin McHale can seriously go put his head up his ass and die from suffocation...
I wanted Mayo in the worst way and while Lova had some good moments...he's maybe a #4 guy on a team. Not the third overall pick ::)
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Yeah, I think McHale probably thought he saw himself in Love - big, slowish white guy that has his moments. Far from a star and as you indicated, a starter but more of a role player than anyone's go-to guy.
Kinda surprised they dumped Foye/Miller as well. Obviously not really true starters but they had decent enough seasons. As a number six or seven player they both had lots of value.
Does Minnesota suffer from the same thing that Canadian hockey teams used to in the sense that guys didn't want to get drafted by small market, non-championship teams? I can see that playing a role and I wonder if the Wolves aren't looking to clean house to try and make it more attractive in the sense of getting four guys to complement Jefferson and start completely fresh? Maybe the notion of going in and starting and being allowed to develop as a whole unit has some appeal compared to going to a team in a cold, smallish city with no history of winning in the NBA?
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Cavs land Shaq for Wallace, Pavlovic
(http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnhOoq4NS_3Z4YlsH6BTa9E5nYcB?slug=aw-shaq062409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
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Magic agree to acquire Nets’ Carter
(http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Av_.zyAQYrWjSq0R0W55pzu8vLYF?slug=aw-cartertrade062509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
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Magic agree to acquire Nets’ Carter
(http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Av_.zyAQYrWjSq0R0W55pzu8vLYF?slug=aw-cartertrade062509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Man, lots of fairly big moves going on prior to the draft here. I'm sort of glad to see Carter heading to Orlando. I know he has his detractors, but I've always been a fan of Carter - but could care less about the Nets. At least with him and Howard on the same team, they should be exciting to watch. It will be interesting to see if Shaq helps the Cavs as well. Hopefully the Wolves can do something with their stockpile of draft picks, and start to build a team.
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Alright they got Rubio!
WTF...they drafted two more point guards ::)
Outside of Rubio, I am left wondering if McHale somehow was texting in picks to Glen Taylor or something. Seriously...why do I continue to root for the local teams :-X
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I was kind of excited to see the Wolves pick up two former Tarheels, but figured Lawson might be sent packing with all the PG picks. I think Ellington is a good, and somewhat underrated, player - so hopefully he gets his chance.
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Yo.
Nowitzki's ex (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AkWj_sPdUFsuU0._hbNEyD05nYcB?slug=ap-nowitzki-womanarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns)
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090630/capt.c2d5c79a7f1b45ce9d5d7a1c0bffb3ef.nowitzki_woman_arrested_basketball_ny160.jpg?x=180&y=200&xc=1&yc=1&wc=327&hc=363&q=70&sig=CnerTZWkoxc0xWkBtEKSOA--)
:o
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Ariza verbally commits to Houston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303862)
Artest's Lakers deal estimated at $18M (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303679)
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Artest. Whew boy. The Lakers just got even better defensively.
And he just might start a riot on the court during a Lakers game to boot. What more could you want?
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2004/11/23/sports/artest.184.2.650.jpg)
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/05/08/alg_kobe-artest.jpg)