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Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jayson on March 30, 2010, 02:56 PM
A friend of mine just contacted me and noticed a strange/new addition to RS's checklist (http://www.rebelscum.com/CH-TVC.asp) for the TVC line: "Antique Force Detail" Collection figures. Like the exclusive 4-LOM and Zuckuss, it sounds like these are simple Kenner based repaints of the new vintage figures and serve as this year's UGH gimmick. Interesting. I guess that is why there are 11 "new" figures in the previously released list as the 12th figure in the case will probably be the chase figure.

"Antique Force Detail" Collection
AFD##: Boba Fett
AFD##: Death Squad Commander
AFD##: Han Solo
AFD##: Han Solo (Hoth Outfit)
AFD##: Imperial Officer
AFD##: Jawa
AFD##: Leia Organa (Hoth Outfit)
AFD##: Luke Skywalker
AFD##: Luke Skywalker (Bespin Fatigues)
AFD##: Power Droid
AFD##: Twin Pod Cloud Car Pilot
AFD##: Ugnaught
Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: CHEWIE on March 30, 2010, 03:46 PM
Sounds interesting...
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2010, 03:54 PM
Now this is something I am very excited about, chase figures that are physically different and worthwhile adding to the collection. While some are easy guesses others are very intriguing and finally give us some meat in this starvation period of news and product.....

I will take a cheap stab of what I think these could be:
Boba Fett (I was hoping the mail away Fett would have been this, a modern Fett in vintage colors.)
Death Squad Commander (This is awesome! Nice homage and one everyone has requested.)
Han Solo (My guess is the Legacy Han DS Head on the 2004 vintage body with black pants. This can be the The "Big Head Version".)
Han Solo (Hoth Outfit) (How many times will we get this figure? He is becoming the new sae see tin of OTC. Really blue with Tan legs.)
Imperial Officer (Will this be the Battlepack version or a Needa repaint? I hope it's a Needa repaint.)
Jawa (Cloth robe/coat? If so this is a toy dream come true!)
Leia Organa (Hoth Outfit) (Not sure about this one will tan colors really stand out? It would be great if it's a Bespin Escape version but would require another head so it's doubtful.)
Luke Skywalker (I am assuming Resurgence Luke with a yellow saber and tan legs/pants)
Luke Skywalker (Bespin Fatigues) (Hmmm, Yellow Lightsaber & darker brown colors or will they go astray with bloody battle damage? I prefer the latter but still cool)
Power Droid (Finally we will get him in blue!!! Love it!)
Twin Pod Cloud Car Pilot (Non mustache?)
Ugnaught (The questions is will it be purple cloth apron or a purple molded apron? My guess is the 2nd uggy head on the first version's body.)
Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jesse James on March 30, 2010, 05:05 PM
Some of it's interesting, some of it not so much...  For instance I'm very interested in a Death Squad Commander and Power Droid...  Not so much on Hoth Leia or Bespin Luke though.

I can't say I'm a fan of chase anything...  They add an element to the line I can't stand, and it's inevitable that that element makes other aspects of the line difficult to find beyond the chase stuff.  Some of the UGH in the past haven't been too hard to track down (2007's stuff wasn't horrible to find), but complete figure changes I think are going to be a bigger headache than gold coins.

Like I said, some of that I'm geeked about, but other stuff I don't really care...  Will the stuff I'm geeked about be something that can be tracked down then?  Ugh...  Ugh indeed. 
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Post by: Jayson on March 30, 2010, 05:10 PM
I'm keen on the idea. I do hope they go the brown/yellow hair with yellow lightsaber route for the Farmboy and Bespin Lukes.
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Post by: CHEWIE on March 30, 2010, 05:13 PM
I can't say I'm a fan of chase anything...  They add an element to the line I can't stand, and it's inevitable that that element makes other aspects of the line difficult to find beyond the chase stuff.  Some of the UGH in the past haven't been too hard to track down (2007's stuff wasn't horrible to find), but complete figure changes I think are going to be a bigger headache than gold coins.

Like I said, some of that I'm geeked about, but other stuff I don't really care...  Will the stuff I'm geeked about be something that can be tracked down then?  Ugh...  Ugh indeed. 

I agree with the part about how it will suck if these end up being rare... if they're very hard to get, then it make is more of a chore than a hobby.  And that ruins a lot of the fun.
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Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 30, 2010, 05:14 PM
I love the idea if it weren't for the fact I think they will be a struggle to find.

I think Chewie hit it on the nose.
Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2010, 05:27 PM
In the theoretical words of Roadblock  "If you order by the case you will have no need for the chase!"
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Post by: Scott on March 30, 2010, 05:27 PM
None of the last few UGHs have been hard to get.  This huge for knocking a lot of the figures off the Vintage update list.  I have some pictures of Power Droids that look nothing like the GNK versions and are what the vintage one was based on...I doubt they will do it because it would require sculpting as opposed to these which seem to be easy repaints.
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2010, 05:38 PM
I agree, I came across every UGH at retail. The only difference this year is the quantities will be less that previous as the line as a whole has shrunk production wise.

Seriously, I really do not understand those that still enjoy hunting in stores for this stuff. It's too much of a chore, brings too many disappointments and often times too much competition. If you order online they are delivered right to your door, guaranteed to have every figure in the wave plus the more elusive chase figures. You will also get cards that have zero shelf wear as some are afraid of.

I am really happy these repacks will actually be different instead of straight repacks. I hope the card art is different too!

Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: ruiner on March 30, 2010, 05:40 PM

 I hope the card art is different too!


You know better than that!
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Post by: iFett on March 30, 2010, 06:19 PM
I never found TSC UGH Scorch or TAC UGH Vader at retail and I was really hunting for those suckers when they were released, but given time - they were all easy to track down wherever so I'm not too worried, but I could do without chase type stuff with Hasbro.

Seriously, I really do not understand those that still enjoy hunting in stores for this stuff. It's too much of a chore, brings too many disappointments and often times too much competition. If you order online they are delivered right to your door, guaranteed to have every figure in the wave plus the more elusive chase figures. You will also get cards that have zero shelf wear as some are afraid of.

Ya it's easier ordering online, but it's the thrill of the hunt!  Most of the only competition (if any) I have in my area are fellow collectors who are there to help.  9/10 I find minty mint cards at retail so I just use that extra cash to waste gas.  As archaic as it may sound - I still enjoy retail finds (if possible) after all these years.
Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2010, 06:38 PM

 I hope the card art is different too!


You know better than that!

Your right. I will expect the same crappy Luke Bespin picture once again.
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Post by: Jesse James on March 30, 2010, 07:26 PM
The Saga UGH silver figures were a bitch to find...  To the point I didn't even bother trying for a set of those (I dig having complete pack-in collections loose for some reason).  TAC's stuff was easy enough to find but some were easier than others for certain.

Don't get me wrong, I dig the idea Hasbro's got here, but I don't like things becoming difficult to track down that I may want.  For instance, Death Squad COmmander...  I'd like more than one of him since he's an army builder.  Same with some of the other items.  Some I have almost no interest in (Hoth Leia, Hoth Han, etc.).  I hope they're relatively easy to find.

I like ordering by the case too, but for extras/army building that's not a practical strategy...  I can swing one case per wave, but not more than that.  :-\

My other point was that UGH tends to attract the scalper crowd too...  Legacy I didn't notice them that much, but I recall seeing many more of them in the toy aisles during Saga, 30AC, and so on.  Chase stuff tends to have that unfortunate by-product.
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Post by: Brian on March 30, 2010, 08:47 PM
This sounds like it could be pretty cool, as long as they aren't impossible to find.  I like the idea of "new" figures, and the nods to the vintage line.  That being said, like Jesse mentioned, stuff like this attracts scalpers and hoarding in some cases.  In a perfect world, where toy lines weren't such secondary money makers for some, it would just be a fun thing to do while you are collecting (finding the chase figures, that is).  Unfortunately, it doesn't usually work that way.

I think in the entirety of the TSC line, I only saw one silver "foil" figure at retail.  I didn't really care to have any, so it wasn't a big deal, but those were definitely scalper fodder around here.  For the TAC collection, the gold coin stuff was a little bit easier to find - but still not in abundance.  Like others have said, as long as they aren't super rare and impossible to find, it could be neat.  Or, it could be a tremendous headache that drives more people away.  Things like this make me think more and more it might be time to cut back to just the Star Wars line starting this fall (at least for the most part), because it is going to take more money and time than I thought with this nifty vintage collection.  A lot of neat stuff, but I have a feeling we're going to have to be on our toes to find it all.  I'm one that usually just orders a set/case of the "realistic" style stuff anymore, and try my luck at any extras I need at retail or online.  That has especially been the case the past couple years, as there really hasn't been a lot of Legacy stuff hitting the pegs here with any regularity.
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Post by: efranks on March 30, 2010, 09:14 PM
Yeah, I'm generally not in favor of chase figures.  The UGH figs were the closest we got, the FDOI were kind of a joke, but they were always just basic figures with some difference in the pack-in.  If these are actually different figures with unique packaging, well, I'm going to be kind of pissed if they're really shortpacked.

The SW line isn't necessarily on its last legs but now is really not the time to introduce chase figures when you have retail stores skipping entire waves of figures because their stock is so stagnant or their distribution centers are shorting them because they're in softer markets.

Ordering cases works when the entire wave is new but as soon as you get into carry forward figures in cases that game goes out the window.  It's even further out the window if, in true chase form, you aren't guaranteed a figure in each case or not the same figure in all cases.  And I'm not going to suddenly start ordering figures by the case so I can guarantee one chase figure that I may want.  That takes away the opportunity to shop for discounts, use coupons, store credit and the like, which makes collecting more expensive in a time when it doesn't need to be artificially inflated.

I'm sure some people like the idea of chase figs, and maybe at another time I wouldn't mind them, but right now I think with all the delays and sketchy retail support, putting in chase figures is not the best move on Hasbro's part if they really want collectors to come back to this line. 

I'm interested to find out exactly what this new listing is all about, but I'm hoping it's not a set of chase figures.

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Post by: Darby on March 30, 2010, 09:37 PM
I really like the idea of this, but worry a little about distribution.  UGH figs were a little hard to come by around here.  These are potentially going to be very popular, as I imagine most of us will want doubles to open, and in some cases more (Jawas, DS Commanders, officers...)
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 30, 2010, 10:28 PM
I have to respectfully disagree with those who think the chase stuff will hurt the line and turn off regular collectors. In fact, I strongly believe it's quite the opposite. I do agree it will attract the undesirable Bearded Hot Wheel scalpers for sure. (They all have beards for some reason....)

If they have a chase program done right (something actually worth hunting for with a physical difference) it will create more foot traffic, requests and interest at retail. That's a good thing and is really needed right now to strengthen the waning base. Random dudes will look to sell it for profit, collectors will want to complete their collections and will not be able to resist the urge not to look for these even if they do not truly want them. I hate to say this but I truly believe the line needs this - bad. Does it suck to hunt for this, sure it does, but think of scalpers as bugs in nature. They are annoying at times, get in your way and can sometimes sting you. But they help the life cycle of plant life. Scalpers in moderation actually help the cycle of the line in my opinion. I personally would rather deal with their crap and have a line that I am passionate about to hunt for than none at all. You let them win by giving up before the challenge begins.

Think about TAC and Saga2....compare that to Legacy. While economic factors & distribution surely hurt the most, a good collector oriented program was very absent. (FDOI does into count as it was a lame sticker.) This may have had a small factor in some disinterest in the line overall. Legacy was much better than Saga2 figure wise, even Hasbro was surprised at the decline citing how good the stuff was.

I was planning on ordering double cases of these anyway to have package ones to display so this is icing for me. there are many figures on that list I really wanted for some time. (I am not sure how I feel about a Han Hoth with tan legs if that is the case, it might get to "Marvelly" for my tastes. I will leave him carded)

For those who fear getting stuck with some extras when the cases changes you can always return them to stores with receipts of ones that you bought at the various box stores. You can always trade/sell them on the forums. I can guarantee your enthusiasm will be higher than it is now towards the line as you take out a very nice chunk of "chore" stress.
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Post by: Pete_Fett on March 30, 2010, 11:04 PM
I have to say that I'm not really happy with this news...

The TSC UGH figures were a real pain and I was just barely able to get one of each of them - and in terms of having a set of them to open, I never found a second Grievous to open.

For the TAC UGH figures, they were much easier to find as I was able to score a complete set of gold coin figures both in package and to have a complete set of gold coins to add to my coin album.

The First Day of Issue figures were ridiculous from an "exclusivity" point of view since they were really easy to come by, but on the other hand, the ease at getting them in the first few days of the Blue/White Legacy and Clone Wars lines made acquiring them very stress free.

The important thing about all three of these situations was that the figures weren't any different, so missing out on the UGH Grievous w/Silver base wasn't that big of a deal to me.

With this "Antique Force Decoration" - I will be pretty upset if the only way I can get a modern version of the Death Squad Commander is to track down a chase figure that comes randomly inserted one-per-case in the first wave.

I hope that these paint op variants will be spread out over the entire run of the line and with each wave, there is ONE designated figure, so if you order by the case, you're guaranteed the figure, if that's how it works, then I'll be okay with that, at least then there's a chance that I'll be able to score two of each chase figure pretty easily.

I will say that the chase mentality has always seemed to me as an abuse of the collector community. There really is very little "thrill" if you have to go to three-to-four stores a day, every day, and 95% of the time, you find nothing you need.

In 1997, Playmates, after having a pretty successful run of Star Trek figures decided that they were going to only issue 1,701 of a figure. This pissed off A LOT of collectors and really pushed a lot of collectors away. In the recent years with Hasbro whining like bitches that the collector community has decreased in size, I find it odd that they would take on a tactic like this which is only bound to turn even more collectors away.
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Post by: P-Siddy on March 31, 2010, 01:13 AM
Cool idea about this, but hope these are easy to find.
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Post by: efranks on March 31, 2010, 01:31 AM
Well, one thing about this, we don't exactly know what these are yet.  Unless someone has the inside scoop?

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Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 31, 2010, 10:44 AM
For those who are worried about the 1 per case ratio with these keep in mind that every figure since the end of TAC has been 1 per case. So this is on the same playing field as every other figure in the line, they will just not be carried forward in future cases which will make them "rare".
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Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 31, 2010, 11:03 AM
I still think when you add "one per case" + "chase" + "collector interest/back in the day feel" that these won't last past the first person who sees them and has any idea what they are.

And as far as the UGH stuff, I'm sure depending on where you shop and how often, the availability of these was different, but I never saw them that often.
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Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2010, 11:06 AM
For those who are worried about the 1 per case ratio with these keep in mind that every figure since the end of TAC has been 1 per case.

I agree.  If these figures do materialize, then I'm sure they will end up like the one-per-wave McQuarrie figures - some were easy to find, some were harder to find (but still findable), and in the end it didn't matter because they put out box sets to make it easy to get them all after the fact.  :P
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Post by: efranks on March 31, 2010, 11:40 AM
The key on these is if they are a true chase figure or not.  If they're just one per case, and in every release of a particular case revision, it's not a big deal even if they aren't carried forward to future revisions or waves.

But if there's a possibility of them being the type of figure that doesn't ship in every case, like the FDOI figures, then there could be an issue. 

As I said, I don't really care for true chase type figures in the SW line.  But I'm going to wait to pass judgement until we know exactly if these are coming and what they are.

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Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2010, 12:11 PM
The Saga UGH silver figures were a bitch to find...  To the point I didn't even bother trying for a set of those (I dig having complete pack-in collections loose for some reason).  TAC's stuff was easy enough to find but some were easier than others for certain.

Don't get me wrong, I dig the idea Hasbro's got here, but I don't like things becoming difficult to track down that I may want.  For instance, Death Squad COmmander...  I'd like more than one of him since he's an army builder.  Same with some of the other items.  Some I have almost no interest in (Hoth Leia, Hoth Han, etc.).  I hope they're relatively easy to find.

I like ordering by the case too, but for extras/army building that's not a practical strategy...  I can swing one case per wave, but not more than that.  :-\

My other point was that UGH tends to attract the scalper crowd too...  Legacy I didn't notice them that much, but I recall seeing many more of them in the toy aisles during Saga, 30AC, and so on.  Chase stuff tends to have that unfortunate by-product.

Agreed, agreed, agreed.

Also, something tells me that variant FIGURES are going to be more sought after than variant CARDS or COINS.
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Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 31, 2010, 12:18 PM
I pretty much bought the UGH I saw because I felt I should, but these sound like something I actually want.
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Post by: P-Siddy on March 31, 2010, 12:58 PM
I pretty much bought the UGH I saw because I felt I should, but these sound like something I actually want.

I feel the same way. I want these. I never bought into the UGH gimmick, though I did have a collector give me a lot of his gold coins to where I ended up getting a set.
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Post by: Jayson on March 31, 2010, 01:48 PM
The more I think about this, I hope this isn't some elaborate (and mean) April Fool's joke.  :-\
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 31, 2010, 01:50 PM
Agreed, agreed, agreed.

Also, something tells me that variant FIGURES are going to be more sought after than variant CARDS or COINS.

That is exactly why I think this will help the line in the big picture view. Despite being a pain to track down and competing with scalpers this will help the line regenerating interest. I am all for it and these really do sound like they can be very desirable to collect. Looking forward to Boba in old school colors!
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Post by: iFett on March 31, 2010, 02:17 PM
The more I think about this, I hope this isn't some elaborate (and mean) April Fool's joke.  :-\

Ya we're awfully close to April, aren't we?
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 31, 2010, 06:55 PM
The more I think about this, I hope this isn't some elaborate (and mean) April Fool's joke.  :-\

Ya we're awfully close to April, aren't we?

If this is a joke I will really be pissed. Having finally something to invigorate the boards again and something to look forward that sounds like it will awesome was great. Having a two day April fool's joke is just plain dumb. If that's the case RS forums should get some colorful posts.......

This sounds like it's true but we should find out one way or the other tomorrow........
Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jayson on March 31, 2010, 09:56 PM
I have a bad feeling about this....

Antique Force Detail Collection = April Fools Day Collection?
Title: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jesse James on March 31, 2010, 10:07 PM
Hey, if it is, it is...  Everyone runs their site differently.  I suppose for some it's the best way to get people to view their site too.
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Post by: Greg on March 31, 2010, 10:45 PM
I have a bad feeling about this....

Antique Force Detail Collection = April Fools Day Collection?


I think you make a good observation with the name. The name didn't sound right to me when I first read it. I didn't jump straight to the April Fools Day conclusion, but I felt like the term "Antique" wouldn't be used. Plus the name doesn't make much sense... Antique Force Detail? Vintage or Retro sounds kind of cool to me, and at the very least nostalgic. Antique, on the other hand, sounds like the toy might be detailed with dust, or at least have paint apps that I have to fix myself.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the above repaints show up in the line, but I call shenanigans on the whole group/collection. It goes against all previous chase assortments and repaint waves. Plus some choices seem way too good to be true.
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 31, 2010, 11:40 PM
I was reading some of the posts on RS boards, this "joke" is really going to backfire on them. Using April fools two days prior is just wrong especially since we are in such a dry period of news and product really adds insult to injury. Not cool.

It's a real shame because this sounded pretty feasible given the 4-Lom/Zuckuss. Normally I would hold out some hope but I am a realist. as Greg pointed out It does go against all previous chase assortments as these were actually worthwhile and not some dumb foil or gold coin. >:(
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Post by: P-Siddy on April 1, 2010, 12:19 AM
While it does sound like a good idea, it seems too good to be true. Got to be a joke... but why do it 2 days in advance? Do it the day of.
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Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2010, 12:35 AM
It doesn't help that they listed Hoth Han and things, and I believe some of those were declared "off" by Hasbro.  I believe when they confirmed the Hangar Han for Han's Hideout they said "No Hoth Han as we typically see him", or something.  I know that was said somewhere to someone in the Q&A.

Well, that or I'm getting old, which is equally plausible.
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Post by: evenflow on April 1, 2010, 01:08 AM
I like the idea of getting a vintage feel for the figures. If its true, I am down.
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Post by: Nicklab on April 1, 2010, 01:23 AM
I have a bad feeling about this....

Antique Force Detail Collection = April Fools Day Collection?


NICE!  You've gotta love spinning fanboys into a tizzy.  Given the state of things over at the RS forums, good on Curto for messing with that mob.  It'll get plenty of the know-it-alls over there a chance to whine, because they just LOVE to whine for the sake of whining.  For something to "mysteriously" show up in their photo database without any kind of front page news, SOMEONE should have known better.  And the way so many people in the fanboy community take things WAY too seriously? It makes this even better!  Although they really need to develop something of a sense of humor.  As for me?  I enjoyed the joke immensely!
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Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 1, 2010, 10:22 AM
It's very easy to feel that way in retrospect that they should have known better. Given the very dry state of the hobby with news and product having a two day April fool's joke is going to blunt any senses of humor. I am wondering on the AFD list you have a Death Squad commander then on their confirmed ANH list they have him listed there as well. does that mean that BS too? They actually hurt their own questionable credibility yet again. If anything Hasbro has some great cheap research into this concept. I really dug it, it's a shame if it is a joke. I would have liked Boba in classic colors......
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Post by: Greg on April 1, 2010, 10:51 AM
The two day AFD joke seems to defeat the purpose. Running a story/post/whatever today and tricking a few suckers is one thing, but to put something up two days early and pass it off as legit? It does hurt Scum's credibility... not that they had a lot to begin with.

Though Scum had a great "joke" several years back. They put up a story for a Darth Vader Operation Board Game. I still think that would have been a huge hit!
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Post by: efranks on April 1, 2010, 10:59 AM
Joke or not, I'm still not a fan of true chase figures in the SW line.  If it is a joke, haven't checked Scum's page yet today, I'm not mad but it is pretty lame to set something like that up ahead of time.  April Fools' Day is bad enough, but if you're going to make it so 2 days prior you have to start distrusting things?  Next will 3 days be acceptable?  Four?  Let's just start setting up next year's tomorrow so it'll be even MORE funny....   ::)

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Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 1, 2010, 11:19 AM
This morning I put some silver duct tape on the sprayer in my kitchen sink so when my wife turned it on she got hosed - that was funny.  It was even funnier when I got myself with my own gag washing off my coffee spoon before my wife woke up (I already forgto about my own trick).

Running an April Fools day joke in advance isn't funny at all - I am gonna go out on a limb and hope that it isn't a fake - perhaps they are playing it off as a fake by not really talking about it - perhaps the name for the chase figures line itself is just the fake but the figures in the deco really are coming.
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Post by: Rob on April 1, 2010, 01:03 PM
(http://www.grist.org/phpThumb/phpThumb.php?src=http://www.grist.org/i/assets/2/AprilFools.jpg&w=307)
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Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 1, 2010, 01:17 PM
I was just thinking of a great way to add Darth Vader into this chase assortment until I saw the April-Fool'-Day-possibility gig. I DO hope that Hasbro keeps intends to do this, though, well, because the line is gonna need a chase assortment anyway!

IF this assortment isn't a joke, I think it would be cool to re-release the Vader included in the ESB wave (w/ 3-piece helmet), but with a vinyl cape instead, in place of the normal fabric. It would be a very cool release. And I'm not praising in any way the choices that are already expected to appear (I really don't care if the Bespin Pilot is repainted). 
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Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2010, 02:19 PM
Well, I don't think it was a joke - if so, they're hiding it rather well. 

I'm pretty sure this (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Introducing_Dan_Curto_Sketch_Card_Artist_130421.asp) is the joke.
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Post by: Jeff on April 1, 2010, 03:23 PM
Well, I don't think it was a joke

Think again... ;)  Rumor Report: "Antique Force Detail" Chases The Vintage Collection? (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Rumor_Report_Antique_Force_Detail_Chases_The_Vintage_Collection_130431.asp)

Guess this seals the deal.  Fun idea, but definitely a prank...
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jayson on April 1, 2010, 03:28 PM
(http://www.april-fools.us/images/teachers-head-explodes.jpg)
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2010, 03:45 PM
Damnit. 
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2010, 04:23 PM
(http://www.april-fools.us/images/teachers-head-explodes.jpg)

Hah.  :D
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 1, 2010, 05:43 PM
Yup, this has got to be a prank (unfortunately :().

The Hoth Han Solo slated for the ESB was included in the variant assortment. But Kenner NEVER (I think) made this figure in the Vintage run. And why would all this information be released in a single day? Usually it starts off as a rumor and then takes a long period to be unveiled.

It WAS a goo joke, though. ;)
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Brian on April 1, 2010, 06:43 PM
The name never sounded quite right to me, but I didn't put the whole "A..F..D" thing together until I read it here.  It makes sense now that it is likely an April Fool's "joke".  It is too bad really, because it sounded like it could be something kind of neat.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Darby on April 1, 2010, 07:14 PM
Leaking this a few days in advance of AFD is crummy, if you ask me.  Have fun with the day all you want, but if this is a joke, then it's not the way to go about it.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on April 1, 2010, 08:13 PM
Leaking this a few days in advance of AFD is crummy, if you ask me.  Have fun with the day all you want, but if this is a joke, then it's not the way to go about it.

I predict we'll see a "leaked Sail Barge prototype" in the next 3 years in a similar presentation.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 1, 2010, 11:15 PM
Leaking this a few days in advance of AFD is crummy, if you ask me.  Have fun with the day all you want, but if this is a joke, then it's not the way to go about it.

Crummy is right, I am 100% with you there.
I cannot believe what a clusterfluck this turned out to be. I find the backfiring of all of this more funny than the joke. (I actually hated the joke because it was two days prior and this would have been awesome! I really, really dug these!) It was so bad they pulled the picture article within a few short hours and still no full explanation to this debacle from the folks who concocted this.

You have to love their ongoing rumor list, it covers just about everything. It's like throwing 100 Velco Nerf balls thrown against a velco wall. They claim credit for the few that stick.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: CHEWIE on April 2, 2010, 12:20 PM
I did think the concept was rather cool at least.  Oh well - it's April 2nd, and I'm moving on.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: EpicGon on April 2, 2010, 12:23 PM
The paint job of AFD is the blend of tradition and evolution of figures.

the death squad commander would be a re paint of the tac death star trooper, I think they could offer a head variation if they couldnīt change the body.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 2, 2010, 02:32 PM
JediTempleArchives had a similar April Fool's Day prank like this -  click here (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4613/#details) to read this pretty good joke.

I had fallen for this when it came out!
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Phrubruh on April 2, 2010, 03:43 PM
Isn't everything on RS a joke?

The photoshop work on those figures is terrible. Curto has done better than that.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jayson on April 9, 2010, 01:15 PM
Food for thought from 16bit.com (http://www.16bit.com/index.asp)

Q: Now that we're getting vintage packaging, are there any chances for vintage-inspired deco or accessories? Blue shirt Hammerheads, swim fins Ponda Baba, Blue Snaggletooth, telescoping-lightsaber Darth Vader, and that first awesome Gonk Droid all come to mind, and that's just 1978 and 1979. Heck, maybe even the Ewoks could have some potential, like a POTF-colored Warok!

A: Adam, a great idea and we'll say that there is a possibility. If the 4-LOM/Zuckuss pairing this Summer does well, it does open the door for future smaller-run Vintage homages like you suggest. We would love to see that personally, and will hold that door open. However, a few things won't work, like telescoping Vader, since we don't have plans to go back to more vintage sculpts and that one relied on the arm to really work.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 9, 2010, 03:07 PM
I would support this to an extent. I prefer stuff like they mentioned like a Blue Hammerhead Blue Gonk and I would not mind a Grey Snags (The dudes they asked must have forgot they made a Blue Snaggletooth.)
Do the heroes second aliens and droids can actually work well with the "real" stuff.

It would be great if something cam out of Curto's poorly executed joke. (I really enjoyed how they tried to spin the botch job. But he incorporated my Big head Han idea in the bad photoshop job.)
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 11, 2010, 12:09 AM
I hope Hasbro does revisit Kenner colors/homages. Vinyl capes would be a great addition to chase figures.
Title: Re: Antique Finish Detail
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 11, 2010, 07:57 AM
I would support figures released as part of a wave with a nod to the old Kenner colors, but never a "chase" figure. If they're gonna put out a Gonk droid and color it like the Kenner figure from the 70s then it better just be one of the figures in that wave shipped in the same ratios as everything else.

For collectors who are buying two of every figure and already having a hard enough time at doing that with the lower production runs, the last thing the collector community needs are figures that are so rare that even finding one would be a miracle, let alone two.