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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Revenge of the Sith => Topic started by: CHEWIE on February 22, 2005, 11:10 AM
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Look at all of the screwholes...
(http://www.yakface.com/2005/tf063.jpg)
Anyone else think those kinda take away from the appearance of this otherwise really cool ship?
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Maybe that's just the floor model? Man, those screw holes would make me feel iffy about purchasing such a neat ship. They can be filled with spackle, right?
Kevin
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My souring of this vehicle's gone beyond the screwholes, but they didn't help by any stretch.
On other toys they're covered, so it's maybe entirely possible they will be here, but somehow I doubt it happens. They are definitely unacctractive though, and take away greatly from the aesthetics of the ship overall. Very obtrusive to the looks in this case.
The scale of the ship's truly attrocious though I think... And with little reason for it to be so in my opinion. Especially considering how that gun on the right extends beyond the nose of the ship... This disappointed me probably most out of the vehicles.
Having looked at some of the images from the ICS book coming up though, it appears the Jedi Fighters maybe got trimmed down too, but I'm not sure on those...
I've come not to expect a lot from Hasbro on vehicles but those screw holes really leave a lot to be desired. I don't think that was exactly necessary, and one can only hope there's plugs for them on the final product. I'm gonna wager that isn't happening though. :-\ I'd still be disappointed myself, but it'd be a nice nod to the people who just don't like the holes all over the right side.
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Stickers were sometimes the hero in covering screws in te past - but I don't think they could save this ship. >:(
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I'm kinda torn on this one...
The holes take away from the look, but the fact that it can carry three troops and an astromech is pretty cool. I guess it's another thing that I'll just have to see and hold in person to really know how I feel about it. :-\
Jeff
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I will still get it if the money holds out.
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I hope thats a floor model, those screw holes sure detract from it. :-\
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I agree, those sure are a lot of screw holes. I'm not holding my breath that they will get covered or filled in though. I still kind of like this ship though, and will likely be picking one up if I have the cash. Like Jeff mentioned, if it holds 3 figures and a droid, that's pretty cool with me.
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I'll still get at least one no matter what... but the screw holes really bother me. At least on the box it shows them without it, so I guess there is hope.
(http://www.yakface.com/2005/tf062.jpg)
The size of this ship doesn't bother me. :)
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Dude, CHEWIE, that's a drawing, I think, so of course it has no screw holes.
Am I wrong?
Kevin
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Since we didn't see this ship in the Walmart Planogram shots we saw last month and since this is the first time we have seen the ship, is it possible that this is a painted hard-copy or prototype?
It strikes me as odd that there would be so many screw holes when they could just have peg-and-socket construction that is glued together to avoid this look.
While I'm still definitely getting this vehicle, I'm hoping this will be corrected by the final release....
Oh - Jesse - I can understand your disappointment in the scaled-down size of this ship, but I think any bigger and it would have put the vehicle in the Queen's Starship, Millenium Falcon, AT-AT price point territory and I'd be willing to bet that Hasbro didn't want that.
For me, I'm just happy that it can accomodate the correct number of crew members (3 pilots and 1 astromech).
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Here's the shot used to start the boxart, no doubt:
(http://cargobay.starwars.com/toys/vehicles-beasts/rots/85457copy.jpg)
So I'd think it was the prototype that had a glued body, while the production one switched to screws. It does look incredibly craptastic like that. I'm still buying at least two, though.
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Dude, CHEWIE, that's a drawing, I think, so of course it has no screw holes.
Am I wrong?
Kevin
It could be a drawing I guess, but I think it looks just like the shot Tydirium posted.
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Ok, I got to thinking. Maybe just the one side of it has the screw holes. Make sense? If you look at the shots with the screws, from what I see it's always one side of the ship.
The pics that don't show any holes are always the other side of the ship.
There could be more pics out there that I haven't seen though. Who knows...
Can anyone shed some more light on this?
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If you look real close at the R Unit and the Gun on the back, ti almost looks photoshopped into the scene...odd.
Oh well, when we get them in stores, we'll know.
Kevin
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Ok, I got to thinking. Maybe just the one side of it has the screw holes. Make sense? If you look at the shots with the screws, from what I see it's always one side of the ship.
The pics that don't show any holes are always the other side of the ship.
There could be more pics out there that I haven't seen though. Who knows...
Can anyone shed some more light on this?
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CHEWIE is correct - the shots from the Cargo bay and from the packaging both show the Port-side of the ARC-170 and the hanging shot in this thread is the Starboard-side of the ARC-170.
I still think that it is the prototype that is screwed together and the mass-production one will be simply glued pegs.
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I'd be very surprised if the production version's any different than that. Screw ports in a vehicle are every bit a part of the sculpt, and whether the Toy Fair one with the attrocious screwholes is a hardcopy or not it still is 99% likely those holes will be there.
The question is how they can be covered up now more than anything... Hasbro hasn't glued a ship together yet though, that I can think of anyway, so I'd not hold much hope for that. The mold toolings would have to be completely different for that to happen and those holes not to be there.
Plugs would be nice, but not Hasbro's style I'm thinking. :-\
As far as my issues with scale, the right side wing cannon extends BEYOND the nose of the ship. That's just wrong... This thing's all over the place with scale as much as the POTF2 X-Wing is. I don't believe there's any reason this should run $80+ in cost, especially considering the sheer # of these Hasbro is going to inevitably sell with it being a general release item and not an exclusive (not to mention potential future repaints/reissues of it).
Like I've always said, if I can get a perfect 1:18 scale P-38 Lightning Interceptor, I should be able to get STar Wars fighters to-scale too... This one I'm not 100% sure on that motto I have, since the ARC's actual dimensions are a bit of a mystery yet, but it looks like it's smaller than the FX X-Wing at this point, which is just wrong for a 3-seater fighter.
Hell, it's as big as the Jedi Fighters which are smaller than it in the movie... That looks odd to me.
To me, Hasbro can do better and I think they'd see a better reaction on vehicles in general if they tried a little harder. Kids attention spans don't stick long enough to a toyline that the vehicles matter anymore I think... At least not with Star Wars it seems. Of course this could be a surprise hit... The Gunship wasn't though, and that (even underscaled) I thought of as a REALLY nice toy for even the $40 pricetag. This I have a lot lesser opinion of myself.
We'll see though. Those screwholes seem so blatantly noticeable that you'd think a sticker sheet may cover them, or plugs... I dunno. Stickers would be the most hopeful thing anyone could want right now, like Deanpaul mentioned I believe.
If not, maybe someone will make a printable sheet people could just print up that matches the colors around each screwhole. It'd appease the people who don't like the way it looks anyway and that's a pretty big step incase Hasbro just leaves it that way.
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The screwholes just seem so overdone... the big X-Wing didn't have any like that, did it?
I don't see why they would need to make it like this.
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The screwholes just seem so overdone... the big X-Wing didn't have any like that, did it?
I don't see why they would need to make it like this.
While I don't have the bigger X-Wing handy, I did take a look at the ROTS Jedi Starfighter and the underbelly of that toy is loaded with screw holes. You don't mind it as much 'case it's the bottom of the ship.
I think the narrow fuselage (sp?) of the ARC-170 and the numerous cockpits prevent the toy from being assembled top-down, but instead two halves left/right and that's why one side has so many screw holes.
You would think Hasbro would be more inclined to hide them since they are on the side of the ship and I'm still going to hold out hope that the actual product toy looks good from both sides, but I'm not going to be surprised if it doesn't.
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Yeah, I do think the big X-Wing had some screws on the bottom - that was fine.
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They didn't seem as numerous on the FX X-Wing sculpt either... The ARC looks like someone took a tommy gun to it.
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Hmmm... you just gave me an idea Jesse. Maybe I'll customize an ARC-170 to look like it got all shot up. :)
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I think the sticker idea is not a bad one for a "quick fix" myself... Problem is finding someone who wants to make a bunch of discs in a color that matches the ARC exactly.
Oh, and then host it too.
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I definatly want the arc-170 ship, though I do wish they could hide the screw holes better, it's still a very cool looking ship
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Another Hasbro update today with the Republic Gunship and ARC-170 Fighter. (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/id.1144/dn/default.cfm)
Both look good to me. Hmmm, no screw holes in those pic's. Could be promo shots.
Thanks. Dale.
The ARC image shows the non-screw hole side of the ship though... The screws were all on the other side of the ship.
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Yeah, your right on that. Just wish they posted different views of the ships. :-\
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Yeah, that's what worries me about the screwhole talk...
EVERY promo picture I've seen uses the "left" hand side of the ship (from the pilots POV).
If they aren't taking ANY pictures for promo use on the other side, there has to be a reason, and the number of ugly screwholes is probably the reason... :-\
Jeff
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Here's the other side:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/ARC_190_Loose.jpg)
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I guess when we display these in our collections, we'll have to show the left side too. ::)
I think you're right Jeff, if they're not showing the left side in any promo shots, it's because they know it's the less appealing side, obviously because of those stupid screwholes.
But in Rob's pic, you can see when the ship is viewed from the right side, if it's at an angle, the screwholes actually don't seem that bad.
I will have at least one of these for my collection. 8)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/arc170.jpg)
I just received mine from UPS tonight. I plan on ripping it open after my little one goes to sleep. Ill throw some feedback here tomorrow, so if anyone has any questions feel free to post em here. One word: SWEET. This thing looks awesome and is bigger than I thought. Stay tuned ;D
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I'd def love to hear more about the scale in comparison to other vehicles, including the ROTS Jedi Starfighters. Does it look correct when compared to the shots we've seen from the film? Love to hear more!
This is the vehicle I'm personally most excited to get.
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Are there stickers to cover up most/all of the screwholes?
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Can you perhaps measure from wingtip to wingtip and nose to tail?
I'd dig having those numbers...
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Some nice pics of this vehicle at GH.com
http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4178&zoneid=2
Not sure if they did put on the decals or not? There are screwholes. Personally they do not bother me regardless.
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Is this a confirmed April 2nd item? It's the only vehicle that wasn't on the shoot I went on a few weeks ago... so I was assuming it would come out a little down the road - but now they're coming in the mail and all?
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I was wondering that as well, if it would be showing up on 4/2 for sure or not. Probably depends on the store(s) again. I really wish we could get a little more of a confirmed list of what we'll be seeing that day, just to plan ahead and figure out possible spending ;).
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I'm hoping that this ship will be available on the 2nd - there will probably be more Gunships 'cause I think that is technically "Wave 1", but for them to not release a signature vehicle like this on the 2nd would be a HUGE mistake (IMHO)
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Oh Man, I really want this ship!!!
now I got to get at least 2 clone pilots!!
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I think it holds 3... which means I need at least 3 to sit in it, and another 10 or so for a diorama.
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Got around to looking at it quickly last night and you are definitely stuck with all the screw holes with no stickers to cover them. Still does not bother me. Its alot bigger than I expected. Will fit nicely next to a gunship as far as size goes. It looks in scale from the limited film images I have seen. The droid compartment was a nice touch. The span on this thing was around 20" I believe. I forgot to measure front to back. Its essentially a cross between an X-Wing and Gunship. Anyone know if this is going to be available on the initial release? Wouldnt mind another one.
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Does anyone know if the Clone Pilot is going to be out in the initial release?
I'm going to want a WHOLE bunch of them - at least six openers to staff both the ARC-170 and the new ROTS Gunship and an extra in case they release the V-Wing down the road.
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Looks like it will be available, as will the pilot... at least I hope so!!
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Okay. Some observations I have made:
The guns on the wings are both the same. Meaning there are no seperate left and right handed ones. So on one gun, the screws are on the inside of the ship while the other side the screws are on the outside. Sevaral people mentioned the distraction on the screws, but I find they blend in rather well. The majority of the screws are on the underneath.
Each wing gun has a missile that launchs on a hidden button under the gun. These missiles are pretty good size. I imagine to eliminate any endangerment to children. Also, each wing gun has a smaller gun which rotates on the top.
The gun on the rear of the ship rotates circular as well as up and down, it has zero detail and could of used a sticker or two.
As usual some of the stickers are slightly too big to fit the indented spots on the ship. There are also several extra stickers to use at your discretion. Seeing the Clone Wars cartoon the other night with the custom Gunship front (similar to WW2 era planes) has me thinking of doing something similar on this ship, since it has such a distinguishing front nose. My suggestion is to trim some of the stickers with a razor before applying.
The colors match are identical to the Gunship.
There are 3 seats for pilots. Someone had mentioned there only being two.
The width is more like 22" while the nose to tail is also 22" with the rear gun pointing all the way out. The height of the ship is about 5.5".
The droid socket will fit any of the various R2 units released to date.
There is a handle under the ship that is hidden with a compartment which folds up to hide the handle. On the handle there is a button that opens another compartment that drops out several small bombs. There is also nose landing gear.
Each wing has 4 hidden extra wings that pop out. Although it takes a little work to pop them out and they will fall off if opened too much.
I mentioned before that it is a definite cross between an X-Wing and Gunship with maybe a bit of an A-Wing thrown in. I'll definitely pick another one up. Its right up there with the Gunship IMO.
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Sounds like a winner. I'm not worried about the screwholes, since they're also present on the Gunship and those didn't bother me.
I'm more psyched than ever for this. It'll be a highlight of next weekend, I think, and will probably kick off an even more frantic Clone Pilot search, as I'll need at least 1 carded and 3 openers now. Oh boy.
The droid socket will fit any of the various R2 units released to date.
That's great news and comforting to know they got it right after screwing up the socket in the Jedi Starfighters.
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Thanks for all the numbers on that RebelTrader.
Well, it's MAJORLY underscaled if the numbers on the ARC-170 from the ICS are right, which at this stage I'm wagering they're at least close... I prefer to analyze the film to get proper scale though, but it's not boding well for the toy with me...
Then again, if the ICS numbers are right, the ship's bigger than a Stuka Divebomber and would make a very large toy if done to-scale. Wings could break down and the ship be smaller and all (in packaging), but I'm just gonna give up any hope on a scale one at this point. Save my disappointment it (and saves money for army builder figs).
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My biggest concern is that at $30, and a limited amount of money to spend, I could buy 5 more clone troopers and wait for this thing to go clearance at the end of the year.
I mean, I found the ep2 gunship the following Feb 03 on sale for $20 and the slave1 for $13 and it didn't bother me. Got to have something to keep on the wish list to keep the interest for it.
But I still want it ;D
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I'm not waiting for clearances on this... or anything that I want.
This looks like the coolest of all the prequel ships IMO.
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Now that there's shots online:
Length: 14.5m (47.5ft)
Wingspan: 22.6m (75ft)
Height: 4.78m (15.7ft)
It's pretty short in the wings, isn't it? Hmmm.
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The actual "real" ship you mean Jared? Or the toy?
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This ship is one of the highlights of Episode 3 toys for me. I'm definitely getting this the second I find it. ;D
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The actual "real" ship you mean Jared? Or the toy?
Where would one put a 75 foot wide ship, Jesse? ::) :P
Kevin
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Hah, sorry just regurgitating the "real" dimensions from the Incredible Cross Sections.
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Whats the big deal about screw holes? This certainly isn't the only vehicle to be littered with holes on one side of its body or the other. Besides, all the customizers and openers around here I'd think that more of you would be open to useing some sculpty, putty or filler of some kind to clean this otherwise cool ship up with. Or easier still, hang/display the ARC 170 with the screw holes facing away from the common viewing angle.
I'm buying a few.
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I dunno, most other vehicles have much fewer screwholes littering its sculpt, so I agree that it's a major detraction, and with the news that it doesn't have a filler (Stickers would've been simple enough), that's not too swift to me.
Jared, ok I gotcha then.
Yeah, it's short in the length, width, and heighth as well... If those numbers are actually accurate too. ;) Though to-scale wingspan (by the ICS numbers) would be 49" about I think... A fair size.
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Anyone heard any word on the pricepoint for this ship?
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It's 29.99 in the same assortment as the redeco Gunship.
Hopefully these will stick around on shelves for the 10th, so I can pick up an extra and get the Holo Yoda at TRU.
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I hoping that I can find some of these on the 2nd, my assitant manger told me that my company is having a contest between the different stores in the coming weeks with the release of ROTS. I have a few ideas of what I could do with some stuff like this ship which hopefully will let my store win. If we do my assiatant manger said he will give me his prize of a DVD player (hopefully he means it). My manger would get a $2,000 home entertainment system and the Grocery manger would get the DVD package. I just need to figure out what they qutera is for this contest, I thinking it will be tied in to the food promos but not sure of.
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For those who picked up the ARC-170 and have opened it, how's that side with the screwholes? Is it like what we saw or different?
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For those who picked up the ARC-170 and have opened it, how's that side with the screwholes? Is it like what we saw or different?
It looks to be pretty much the same, screw-wise, as the one that was pictured at Toy Fair. I count 16 screw holes on the side of the ship, plus an additional 6 on one of the wing cannons (although they may have packed two of the same gun in my box; either way, they're the same guns). Two of these screw holes are obscured by the engines, but the rest of them are pretty obvious. That being said, it is a very cool looking toy (and quite a bit bigger than I expected) and a lot of fun to fly around the room making laser noises admire on the shelf. ;)
My main problem with the ship isn't with the ship at all, but with the sticker sheet. As someone else noted earlier (maybe in this thread, I'm too lazy to look), some of the stickers aren't cut so well and they don't fit the "template" areas on the ship all that well. The only time this particularly irritated me (and detracted from the look of the ship) was with one of the aforementioned screwholes near the back of the ship and the tail gunner's seat. There is a rather large sticker that only half obscures the screwhole and it was very noticeable. I ended up cutting the corner off and it still looks good, but this kind of thing is kind of irritating in this day and age.
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Every store I went to this weekend had an empty space where the gunship and ARC-170 were supposed to be...I don't know if I just missed them or if they never arrived!
Is it worth the $30? The ARC-170 that is...
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The ARC 170 wasn't everywhere this weekend either. Neither of our Wal-Marts had either of the "big ships". I found 3 or 4 ARCs on Saturday morning at Target, but passed on it at first because it just seemed like I was spending too much. I went back Saturday afternoon, and they had one left, so I decided to pick it up. Haven't opened it yet, but the box is pretty big. The only place I saw the Gunship this weekend was at KB Toys, no one else seemed to have them. Not that I want/need another one anyways.
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Same thing is true in my area - the only place I saw the Gunship was at KB Toys - bought one there since KB had it for $29.99 (same price as Target for the ARC-170).
I was able to grab two of the ARC-170s at Target earlier the same morning. Haven't opened it up yet (I like to spread my booty out, I find it much more satisfying than just spending the rest of the day opening EVERYTHING).
I'll probably open it either tonight or tomorrow night. Kinda putting it off since I don't have any Clone Pilots to put in it yet... :-[
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Yeah, I was like that to. No point in buying the ARC if I can't put clone pilots in it. Plus I had spent enough at that point.
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The only place we saw the ARCs this weekend was Target. I picked one up for 29.99.
The ship was the first thing I opened once at home (along with 2 Clone Pilots to fly it). Strange as it may seem, it has turned out to be the one item I was most excited about. It turns out that the toy is actually very well made. It feels solid, can be loaded up with figures, has that PFX Xwing-style "flying" handle that tucks away into the fuselage, and feels big.
Now, if TRU could kindly get the Gunship in for next weekend's free Yoda, all will be well.
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Did anyone else end up with four extra stickers and no spot on the instructions as to where to put them? This annoyed me.
The nice thing about the cockpits though is that I was able to temporarily staff my ARC-170 with three CloneTroopers (#6) quite nicely - they fit in the three spots just fine (nice for a change IMHO)....
I was zooming all over the house with it like a kid! :D
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I haven't applied all the stickers to mine yet, but did assemble it. It's freaking awesome... by far my favorite prequel vehicle so far. That would easily change though if an AT-TE were made.
The size of this ship is fine in my opinion.
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Did anyone else end up with four extra stickers and no spot on the instructions as to where to put them? This annoyed me.
Yes, that was annoying to me, too. I'm stumped as to where to put them, and am none too fond of slapping stickers on my ships all willy-nilly. Actually, I tend to check the box art for how Hasbro applied the stickers, and was surprised to find that there are many differences in the ship as depicted on the box compared to the final product. For example, the area where the "Target" label is applied on the rising wing-flaps is recessed in the picture, and raised on the actual toy. Odd.
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was surprised to find that there are many differences in the ship as depicted on the box compared to the final product. For example, the area where the "Target" label is applied on the rising wing-flaps is recessed in the picture, and raised on the actual toy. Odd.
Happens quite a bit actually. A scratch built prototype is usually built for box photography because a production sample is not available in time.
I have experience with this... 8)
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I haven't applied all the stickers to mine yet, but did assemble it. It's freaking awesome... by far my favorite prequel vehicle so far. That would easily change though if an AT-TE were made.
The size of this ship is fine in my opinion.
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Yeah, the box was huge. I am assuming the ship is as well. I could see the screwholes being mildly annoying but still worth getting this.
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Yes, that was annoying to me, too. I'm stumped as to where to put them, and am none too fond of slapping stickers on my ships all willy-nilly. Actually, I tend to check the box art for how Hasbro applied the stickers, and was surprised to find that there are many differences in the ship as depicted on the box compared to the final product. For example, the area where the "Target" label is applied on the rising wing-flaps is recessed in the picture, and raised on the actual toy. Odd.
Thanks for responding Jared...
I noticed what you're talking about to, re: the "Target" label...
I also scoured the box pics to see if I could figure out where these four other stickers go. I decided not to apply them in hopes that one day, Hasbro will release a corrected instruction set for the stickers (yeah right)...
Another thing that (kinda) annoyed me about this ship was the lack of cockpit stickers. The co-pilot is basically looking at a gray square. What's up with that? The pilot's console sticker is a big blur and the square in front of the co-pilot didn't even get stickers. I guess you get what you pay for and for this size ship, $30 isn't a bad deal...
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Did anyone else end up with four extra stickers and no spot on the instructions as to where to put them? This annoyed me.
I finally got around to assembling my ARC last night and I too was left with 4 stickers.
I just used my "imagination" and stuck them on the bottom of the ship since it seemed to be lacking in stickers. The sticker witht he triangle I stuck on the wing, kinda under where the one on the top wing went. the other two parallelogram type stickers I stuck on part of the wing in a place where they kinda seemed to go.
If it was wrong, well then I guess it's wrong. :-X
Jeff
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Hehe.
This is one freaking great piece! I'm so giddy over it.
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I'm pretty stoked over it too. Only problem is the lack of pilots in stores right now.
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I just wanted to point out that there is a note on the sticker/instruction sheet that says something along the lines of "apply remaining stickers whereever you like." It's not as cool to me as the "damage" stickers for the Jedi Fighters/Tri-Droid Fighter, but they weren't put on there by mistake.
And ruiner, yeah, it's worth it. If you thought the Gunship was cool the first time you saw it, this one has it beaten (and I still think the Gunship is amazing). :)
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Yes, this is well worth the pricetag - I am actually surprised it didn't retail for a bit more! But no complaints about that!
Yes, everyone buy this and pave the way for the AT-TE...
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Well, you guys are right...the ship ****** rocks! And I got a free holo yoda to boot!
At first, I thought the box was kinda small but after assembling it, this thing kicks ass!
And you're right, the decal diagram portion of the instruction sheet blows big time.
Question though - who pilots the rear gun? A clone pilot or the AT-TE gunner?
Probably look cooler with the AT-TE gunner! 8)
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As much as I hate to bump really old threads, I wanted to talk about the ARC-170.
After over two years of admiring pics of this ship online, I finally bought a 170 NIB for $25 shipped to my door. I can't say that I was disappointed by the toy, but I can gladly say that this was the best new vehicle of the ROTS action figure line.
The "action handle" or whatever on the bottom of the ship is really cool, and makes "flying" the 170 around the house way too tempting(and fun!) I like to drop bombs on my droid tanks.:P The screw holes don't bother me at all, but the four extra stickers and lack of weathering do.
Overall, I'm glad I got this version of the ARC-170 instead of that Target/Clone Wars repaint piece of crap, and I'd gladly buy a second if repainted correctly. (i.e. Titanium blue paint scheme, ROTS paint scheme w/ V-Wing style weathering, etc.)
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I agree its a great vehicle from the modern line if not the greatest. I would love to see a weathered version as well. The space whale version is pretty lame. I will buy one because "I have to" but I wish they would do an upgrade deco ala Y-Wing style.
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I agree its a great vehicle from the modern line if not the greatest. I would love to see a weathered version as well. The space whale version is pretty lame. I will buy one because "I have to" but I wish they would do an upgrade deco ala Y-Wing style.
Yeah... I ended up with the ROTS one but never picked up the ROTS Gunship. I then picked up the Deco-Gunship and then found an ROTS Gunship for a good price. I picked up the Deco-170 just to go with the gunship...
Once I get them hung from the ceiling I think they'll make nice paired sets
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After opening the TAC one, I'm now regretting that I never got one of these to open.