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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: The Transformers Live Action Movies
« on: March 24, 2010, 06:59 PM »
Looks like John Malkovich, Frances McDormand, and the little Asian dude that was in the trunk from the Hangover have been cast for TF3.

Great. I can't stand John Malkovich.

Frances McDormand is a washed up actress.

And that Asian guy was plain annoying to me. Maybe that was the point, but he's not an actor I want to see in a Transformers movie.

So I guess I'll be going to see this movie as I practically did for the last one, the robots kicking each others arses and the two hour toy commercial (oh and of course the obligatory Megan Fox hot shot...).

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Drop in Collector Interest/Figures?
« on: March 24, 2010, 06:51 PM »
Jesse, you are correct. It really boils down to cost per figure. Simply put when I was building armies, I was consistently getting them in batches of 20 or 40 or 80. (Over the course of time mind you)

Again simple math: $5 per figure 20 fig=$100, 40 figs=$200, 80 figs=$400
Now take the $8 per fig: 20 figs=$160, 40 figs=$320, 80 figs=$640

Now THAT is a BIG difference.

So for just $80 more, I used to be able to get 40 figures more in comparison, for 80 figs at $5 each rather than 40 figs at $8 each. See, I'd have spent more money, gotten more product, more toys would have moved off the shelf being replaced by more new stuff, and so on.

Isn't that funny, how as little as .50 per figure can sway one so easily from going overboard with purchases?

Chewie, with respect to your comment and touching on what Jesse posted, it's not just been the extra 50 cents, it's been the ridiculous price increase of the past few years.

I've mentioned many times here how I planned on cutting back my budget in half from 2007 each year until this year. That in part came from rising costs of figures.

I've also made the analogy of the cost of figures from the 70s and 80s (1977-1985) as opposed to today.

How is it that figures remained relatively close in price for those 8 years, yet we're paying now 3X as much? Granted articulation added to costs, but I'll point out Clone troopers as an example, since we're discussing army building. The ROTS clones #6 and #41 (remember when they were referred to like that?) were nearly SA, with the #41 being the better of the two. You could get those figures for $5 each. It was EASY to army build them. The price of those figures just a short 5 years ago was roughly twice what we paid for the vintage figures back when. So how is it in 5 years the price shoots up by another 60% when we're essentially getting the same figures. I'll point out the 501st trooper as a good example of that though there are many more.

My threshold for buying heavy amounts of troops ended at $6. I scaled back to no more than 10 figures of a troop figure then. When it hit $7, I scaled that back further to no more than 8 figures. Now that it's $8, that number is 5-6 figures. So you can see than not only am I buying less figures, but spending less money. (10figs/$60; 8figs/$56; 6figs/$48) This again is due to deciding to budget my money better, but also what I perceive as a drastic drop in value. The same sandtrooper I bought for $6 a couple of years ago is now in the Legends line for $8. Ridiculous.

Believe me, if figures were once again $5, I'd have blown my budget away. I'd have bought more figures which would have actually been more money in the long run.

When we were able to get battle packs for instance from Target for $20 for a 4 or 5 pack of figures, THAT was value. Now those battle packs are $25-30 and you're lucky if you get more than 3 figures. Hell in the case of the clone pilots you only got TWO and then the gun pod.

So it's really value that is the key here.  Hasbro took value away, so I took my dollars away from them (or rather their retail partners, which in turn took product from me(us) by not ordering as much of the Legacy line. Who's to blame? Not me, I've already said I'd have bought more had the value been there. I understand prices of everything have increased, but toys are what I spend the most money on and they have increased in price from Hasbro disproportionally high in comparison to everything else I buy with any frequency.

The only thing that sums that up is Greed on the part of Hasbro.  And they wonder why we collectors have stopped or cut way back...

I hope that answers your question, shmashwitdaclub.

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Drop in Collector Interest/Figures?
« on: March 24, 2010, 01:37 PM »
I say just eliminate Legends - or just figure out some better figures to include in that line.

Yeah, the real problem with Legends was when they decided to go "kid only" with that line.  Back when Legends was a 50/50 mix of kid/collector, it wasn't nearly as bad.  It would be nice if they could pull some of those Plos and Saesees from the Legends line and replace them with collector-targeted figures.

Just imagine a plentiful source of Hoth Rebel Trooper v2, Imp Scan Dude #2, Rebel Tech (from Yavin BP), GeoArena Battle Droid, Evolutions TIE Pilot, Ewok 2-pack repaints, R5-M2 (from Hoth BP), other AstroDroid repaints, etc.

If they started packing in collector-desired army builders and some new repaints like they did circa Legends 2007/early'08, I think there would be a lot less people out there angry with the line.  ;)


I agree with you here Jeff.  Personally I feel the Legends line should either become an army building line, or if their going to continue to label it "Legends" then release those figures that would be considered legendary to the story. Saesee Tiin, not matter how good or bad the figure is, is NOT a legendary character in the SW universe. Neither is Plo Koon or Kit Fisto, and they happen to be two of my more favorite Jedi.

The term legendary needs to apply to the main heroes in this case. But that would make the line boring as there can really only be so many Luke, Leia, Han, Anakin, Obi-wan, etc. figs on the pegs at once, and then, not competing with the CW or realistic lines.

While I think most collectors would dread the overall line going to 4 sublines instead of three as it is now, I think in the case of Legendary it really needs to split to be those legendary characters and then an army building line. Call that one "Armies of Star Wars," or something on that order. That line could include both animated and realistic too.

Beyond we collectors griping though, retailors would be hard pressed to accept yet another subline of SW figures, especially when so many are lagging on the pegs today. (and Legacy is NOT one of those sublines that is).

So Hasbro really needs to rethink the Legends line.

If we make a reasonable assumption to say each wave will have 6 or 8 figures then each wave could be broken down like this:

6 figure wave:
1 OT Main Hero
1 PT Main Hero
2 different OT Army builders
2 different PT Army Builders

Again, main heroes are not secondary Jedi, cantina patrons, droids (except R2 and C-3PO of course).

Since cases come in 12 figures, just double these numbers to get the case breakdown.

8 figure wave:
2 different OT Main Hero
2 different PT Main Hero
2 different OT Army builders
2 different PT Army Builders

Since cases come in 12 figures, there can be two case breakdowns. More OT and more PT like this:
More OT:
2 different OT Main Hero with a double of each OT
2 different PT Main Hero
2 different OT Army builders with one extra each of OT army builders.
2 different PT Army Builders

for example:
Luke X2
Leia X2
Anakin X1
Obi-wan X1
Stormtrooper X2
Snowtrooper X2
Clone trooper X1
Battle Droid X1

For the PT case, flip the numbers.

At least this way there would be a ton of army builders, and plenty enough of the main characters, but virtually none of the secondary characters that aren't selling well as refreshed figures.

Back to the "Armies of Star Wars" thought for a second, I still think if this line were done it would be a winner, however, one key thing should happen-PRICE REDUCTION. The whole point of this is to be able to army build these affordably. If in the past Hasbro has been able to give us multipacks of 5 figures for $25 or less, then why can't single carded figs in the Armies line be $5? In totality they use no more cardboard then a battle pack does. Since the molds for those army builders have long since been created there isn't extra cost involved there.

I really think a serious reduction in price woud also help to bring back in many collectors who have dropped or greatly reduced the amount of SW figures they collect.

I'm speaking as a "reformed" army builder here. I used to buy 20 each of many troop type figures, sometimes even 40 or 80. But that is when figures were $5 or $6 tops. I can't justify building to those levels when figures are $8+. So I resolve myself to no more than 5 or 6 of a troop figure if I decide to squad build it (as opposed to army build it). And I know I'm not the only army builder who has drastically reduced the amount of figures he's bought. But you can clearly see even on me alone Hasbro is losing hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Multiply that by many collectors and we're talking hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars that is lost to Hasbro and their retail partners.

Simple equation from above:
5 figs at the current $8 each is $40
20 figures at the $5 pricepoint is $100

A $60 loss or 150% loss just due to price alone.

I would think that if stores could sell us figs at $5 they would if they were moving 2 or 3 or 4 times as quickly.

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The Bullpen / Marvel Universe
« on: March 22, 2010, 12:01 PM »
Found the latest Secret Wars comic packs (Nightcrawler/Storm, Doom/Absorbing Man) at Target yesterday.  The paint jobs on these are much improved from the last few waves.  I picked up Nightcrawler/Storm - great set.

How long have these been out? I need them. Is there anywhere with a master list of the comic packs and waves (including variants)? I know I'm still missing several single carded figures. Not sure how many of the comic packs.

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Drop in Collector Interest/Figures?
« on: March 19, 2010, 01:14 PM »
 As far as dollars in against dollars out, Legacy looks to be the clear loser here despite seemingly moving a really good number of units. (And this is largely armchair quarterbacking.  I can't see Hasbro's balance sheets from here.)  Hasbro can and frequently does cancel products that sell because of unmet expectations from their investors/bosses/Wal-masters/whatever.

Maybe I'm not conveying my thoughts right on this then.

What Im saying is something on this order (as an example since I too can't see Hasbro's info):

Let's say Hasbro made 500,000 Animated, 300,000 Legends and only 100,000 Legacy figures. (Again just an example)

My guess based on what I see left on shelves is that Legacy figures sell out almost all of the time, meaning darn near 100,000 figures sold. So essentially 100% of the figures are sold or at least very high 90s percentile range.

Animated seems to sell at about 80-90%. So the range of figures sold on that 500K is about 400-450K. Yes more than Legacy but not in percentage of figures sold. Legends is worse as I see those figures dragging for weeks on end.

So using that ever so basic math, wouldn't it make sense to sell figures that are selling out or at a much greater percentage than the other two facets of the line?

Legends may have a higher profit margin per figure for Hasbro, but if the figures are staying stagnant or not moving as quickly how can that benefit the retailors and consumers? No new product for Legacy because we have a heck of a time finding it makes it harder to stick with the line. Seeing rehashed stuff we don't want or certainly not for more than what we paid for the figure when it initially came out (and again that clone weapons locker in no means makes up the difference) isn't going to make us buy it.

I'm just saying Hasbro needs to scale back Legends in favor of more Legacy/Vintage/Realistic NEW/Severly upgraded figures.

Eventually the Legends figures not selling as quickly is going to catch up with Hasbro. And no doubts we collectors will get the blame when all along we've been telling them to lighten up on the Legends line.

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...Also from the Q&A, there is a picture of the General Grievous from this wave over at JTA.


Now THAT is a good looking Grievous figure. I'll likely get a few of it, providing it's the correct scale. If it is again too short, then it's a one time purchase for me and then only for the cape and weapons.

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Drop in Collector Interest/Figures?
« on: March 18, 2010, 01:46 PM »
What is Hasbro supposed to do if the retailers ain't buyin' the stuff? There's a reason why the value packs have hit the market. It's not like Hasbro didn't make enough and offer enough to the retailers.

Well, their supposed to sell the idea of the Legacy line better to the Big Box store buyers.

While it seems counterintuitive to us, it really seems like Hasbro has been selling the notion of the Animated line and the Legends line, and not so much the Legacy line.

They (Hasbro and stores) want to sell Animated because it's the "hot" "new" thing out there. Legends I'm fairly certain is being billed as a cheaper line for stores to buy (Maybe Adam can fill us in on that) therefore more profit for stores. Likewise, Hasbro's profit margin is more on Legends since there is virtually no R&D into figures, since they are all old molds. So it stands to reason the Hasbro would want to promote the "hot" line and the line that gives them the greatest profit margin.

Unfortunately that means the Legacy/Vintage/Realistic line gets the shaft when it comes to sales. Less was made because less was ordered from stores. So Hasbro twists this around and states that there are less sales. It's only less sales because there is less of this specific product out there.

I'm am willing to bet my left nut that if we compared percentages of Animated to Legends to Legacy, the greatest percentage of sales in terms of what's moving on the pegs and what's being left behind, would go to Legacy.

What I mean is it is very difficult to find Legacy figures, while Legends abound, followed by Animated.

We know it, and Hasbro knows it too. But again, stores want the "hot" product and Hasbro is pushing the "cheaper" product for higher margin.

Until/unless this way of thinking changes, the SW line in general is going to persist like this to the point where we'll be lucky if we even have a realistic line in a few years that are NEW figures (with Legends taking over). If/when that day comes, I'll definitely be done with collecting SW figures.

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The Bullpen / Re: Iron Man 2 Toys
« on: March 17, 2010, 09:44 AM »
I really liked how Hasbro didn't use any rubber bands or anything to hold these figures onto the blister...kuddos!

Of all the figure I bought only one was a little warped. The lower left leg on my Mark III was warped towards the left side. I just took a small rubberband and lightly wrapped that around the lower legs. I waited a few days and now it looks just fine. Other than that there has been no warping.

On the whole these figures are great. I had a couple of paint issues with the Mark VI, Mark VI (lightup) and the Mark IV. Other than those the rest were stellar.

I've been very satisfied with the quality of this line so far. I only wish we would get more villains. Though I know Whiplash is on the way. I hope the Iron Drones are too.

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1 ) Barris Offee SA Resculpt
2 ) Cleig Lars (Removable leg and hoveround from the Scooter store!)
3 ) Rickshaw Droid
4 ) Zam Wessel SA Resculpt
5) Young Boba Fett SA Resculpt
6) Clone boy (not Boba, but could be the same except a headswap with the learning headsets)
7) Nyrat Agira  Okay so this one is unlikely, but dang, I'd like to see that figure made.
8 ) BD-3000 luxury droid, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BD-3000_luxury_droid   Comes in two colors and EASY repaint for Hasbro.
9) Sarissa Jeng
10) Dooku's FA-4 Pilot droid  (It's scene elsewhere as the same model, just not that specific droid, but could be used as a crowd droid)

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The Bullpen / Re: Iron Man 2 Toys
« on: March 16, 2010, 02:06 PM »
Even though i wasnt crazy about the Mark V figure, i picked one up. I have to say it looks much better out of the package so i am glad i picked it up.

Good for you man. Yeah it's a little bit of a departure from what we know as Iron Man.

But the good thing is Iron Man is KNOWN for tinkering with his armor and making variants, so this isn't too far out of the realm.

About the Movie War Machine, I've only been able to find this at WM. And then only once. I saw 4-5 of them and should have picked up two. Man they went FAST. I want to get a second one to make both shoulder guns match (using the smaller ones).

I check how much I've spent on IM2 vs SW and man it's practically a tie. While Hasbro is losing money on me for SW, they are getting it right back for IM2 toys.

I wonder if this is their evil plan...LOL.

Seriously though we have seen in the last couple of years where Hasbro has opted to hold back SW in preference of other movie toy lines only to come back to SW once those other movie lines die down or fizzle out entirely.

I understand that thinking, but I'm not excited about it. I'd still much prefer new SW all year 'round.

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The Bullpen / Re: Iron Man 2 Toys
« on: March 15, 2010, 06:26 PM »
Picked up some non-Hasbro Iron Man 2 toys this weekend.

Megbloks has some sets out as well as "magnetic" Iron Men.

Megabloks is similar to LEGO.

I got a small set that had the Mark IV in it as well as this nifty carrying case that includes a base magnetic figure with 3 IM armor sets. Those were Mark II, Mark IV, and Mark V. Though the Mark IV was mislabeled as the Mark III. THe case itself if cool. Similar to the one if the movie that Stark carries that becomes the Mark V armor.

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Other Toy Lines / Re: Transformers
« on: March 14, 2010, 11:59 AM »
Hey Guys,

Hasbro has offered us a chance to ask Transformers Questions would that be something that you guys could help us with questions on?  The current staff is not as into Transformers enough to not ask the wrong stuff.

Sound off in here if you guys think you can come up with 3 or so questions every few months and we will get them asked.

PM

YES PLEASE!

I can readily think up questions. Just let me know when you need them by and to who I submit the questions to. Or should I ask them in this thread, or should we start a TF QnA thread.

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The Bullpen / Re: Iron Man 2 Toys
« on: March 11, 2010, 04:30 PM »
V i just can't get in to.

Did you see the last 10 seconds of this week's new trailer!?

That armor is sick!

That's what I'm saying!

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The Bullpen / Marvel Universe
« on: March 11, 2010, 12:11 PM »
I'm not a fan of the A.I.M. soldier. Havok is okay, but I prefer the older version.

The rest are WIN though, IMO.

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The Bullpen / Re: Iron Man 2 Toys
« on: March 11, 2010, 09:59 AM »
Thanks to my wife paying for these (I don't get paid until tomorrow), I scored the following at my local Wal*Mart:

Mark IV
Mark V
Mark VI
Mark VI (light up)
Movie War Machine
Inferno Armor

I haven't yet opened them all up yet. The Mark V looks SICK! (in a good way of course)

For the moment I'm going to keep the Mark VI light up and the Inferno Armor carded. I wasn't completely thrilled with the paint apps on these two and that AFTER having gone through the whole on-peg inventory. I checked at least a half dozen of each figure before finally deciding on the ones to buy.

Woot, so now I think I'm currently cuaght up.

But I also know there is coming:
Comic Blue Iron  Monger
Movie Whiplash
Movie/Comic Black Widows
Nick Fury
Helmet off Iron Man
Helmet off War Machine

Seen here: http://www.popeater.com/2010/02/26/iron-man-2-action-figures-unveiled/

Here's the Comic Iron Monger:

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